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Speaker 1: Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 1: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings.

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Speaker 3: We are a sibling, Ravalry, No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 4: You don't do that with your mouth, Vely.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 1: Hey, let's start. What's up?

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Speaker 2: We already started in the lobby elevator.

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Speaker 1: Does anyone ever call you CTS?

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Speaker 5: But but CJ, c J t H. Well CJ is

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Speaker 5: what everybody in my close friends and family called me

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Speaker 5: because my middle name is Joan. Is it which was

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Speaker 5: my initial screen actor skilled name? No Joan Christine, No Christine, Joan.

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Speaker 3: Christine, Joan Taylor. Yes, yes, yes, yes, Well my middle

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Speaker 3: name is Rutledge. Yeah, that was not my screen name,

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Speaker 3: Oliver Rutledge Hudson. Oh look, speaking of middle names, I.

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Speaker 4: Was not expecting this professional.

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Speaker 1: We're in the studio bay where.

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Speaker 2: In the studio real and pro.

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Speaker 3: But when you popped on, we were just talking about

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Speaker 3: middle names, and uh, I haven't revealed yours yet because

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Speaker 3: it's not it's an interesting one, Ruttledge. About Oliver Rutledge Hudson.

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Speaker 1: You know you want to give up your middle name.

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Speaker 6: But the world know.

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Speaker 4: My middle name is Kate Gary Hudson g A R

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Speaker 4: R Y double R super.

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Speaker 2: I would have known if I had seen it, I

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Speaker 2: would have.

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Speaker 3: Said, from that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: Wait, Kate, what is the origin of that?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: I don't even know.

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Speaker 4: Uncle Gary, who we never knew, was Mom's favorite uncle,

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Speaker 4: and so she just decided to name me.

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Speaker 1: Did she check your privates before she gave you? The

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Speaker 1: middle name?

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Speaker 3: Rutledge was my grandfather's name, and Edward when we were

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Speaker 3: lied to that that we were later the youngest sign

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Speaker 3: of the Declaration of Independence, who was Edward Rutledge, which

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Speaker 3: I think we found out was not true, right.

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Speaker 2: It's not true.

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Speaker 1: We have all kinds. We have a lot of things,

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Speaker 1: you know, we have so much.

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Speaker 3: Lord, it's like it's like our great our great uncle

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Speaker 3: was the head of a crime family, apparently related to

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Speaker 3: Edgar Allan Poe.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's all bullshit.

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Speaker 2: It's so nice to see you, so nice to see you.

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Speaker 4: The last time I saw you was I think for

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Speaker 4: us a heartbeat at the Was it it was the

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Speaker 4: US Open, wasn't it?

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Speaker 2: Or the tennis?

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Speaker 5: It was in the parking lot and it was the

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Speaker 5: big Novak Djokovic was supposed to win the Calendar Slam

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Speaker 5: yea and did not. Yeah, and we all every we all,

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Speaker 5: everybody flocked to see it because.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be amazing, big moment.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he got demolished by Yeah really did.

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Speaker 3: You've probably got to put a ton of letters from

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Speaker 3: celebrities like I wasted my time to.

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Speaker 1: Watch this moment.

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Speaker 6: You know what.

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Speaker 2: The tennis matches are so fun, they're so civil.

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Speaker 1: I've never been ever what, I've never been to.

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Speaker 2: Age, It's so much fun.

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Speaker 1: I love sports. I've never ever been. I really want

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Speaker 5: It is the most I think. It's so much Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm also one of those like I play okay, but

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Speaker 5: I love watching it and I will watch every return

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Speaker 5: like the Australian Open is going on right, yes, and

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Speaker 5: it comes on like the live coverage starts here at

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Speaker 5: eleven thirty pm. Yeah, you watch a little before bed.

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Speaker 5: I record it and then I'll watch it a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit of a So you must have seen Match

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Speaker 3: Point the Netflix series, of course, Oh my god, I

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Speaker 3: love it. It's so amazing.

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Speaker 5: It's increasible.

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Speaker 2: I mean I haven't seen all of them shows.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you got to watch match point. It's really great,

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Speaker 4: I had this image just looking at you, and I

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Speaker 4: remember saying this to Ben, your husband.

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Speaker 2: It was the last time I say, guys.

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Speaker 4: But I was reading all the research and all this

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Speaker 5: Well yeah, because we were all pregnant together.

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Speaker 4: We were pregnant and had babies. And there was this

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Speaker 4: one Halloween in New York that I will never forget

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Speaker 4: And we have this like big Halloween party with a

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Speaker 2: Her, going, I don't know what it is, she just

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Speaker 5: And it was funny because I remember, yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: It was so cute naked.

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Speaker 2: It was so cute.

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Speaker 4: And so Ben still her funny that this was his

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Speaker 4: and and and then I just thought, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: she's graduated from Juilliard and she's twenty juilliard.

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Speaker 1: He did acting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's just in there.

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Speaker 4: It's like story telling, the storytelling gene or it's just

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Speaker 4: or you know what, it's just so much fun and

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Speaker 1: Don't know anything else, Like that's the other thing.

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Speaker 5: And I do think, like, I'm sure there are families

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Speaker 3: then you could move. There's more impetus for them to

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Speaker 5: I realized like really early on, and Ben was, you know,

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Speaker 2: You don't think so.

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Speaker 5: But it's the most important time, Like that's that action, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean speaking of Ella, but no, I mean I

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Speaker 2: My brother lived right next door to us.

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Speaker 5: So and and we had a you know, babysitter nanny

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Speaker 2: You know, She's like, which one are you?

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Speaker 3: No, when when when Rio was born ten days as

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Speaker 3: And Aaron was like, get your shit together, get in

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Speaker 2: Animal had some weird animal sounds. It's not personal.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it isn't personal. And it's also like then you know,

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Speaker 2: But it does take.

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Speaker 5: It takes well before.

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Speaker 1: We deep dive into your childhood.

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Speaker 3: I just want to say that, like, just on the

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Speaker 3: a movie in Toronto, a Christmas movie for Netflix, and

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I had to say that, maybe so

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Speaker 3: it sounds like I'm doing something more prestigious, maybe you know.

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Speaker 2: Because Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I like that.

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Speaker 3: I like that, Yeah, because I'm like, it's not Hollmark,

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Speaker 3: it's Christmas, but it's it's Netflix.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they did a great one called Hot Frosty. So anyway,

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Speaker 3: you know, I was seventeen. I was seventeen year old

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Speaker 3: in the show of seventeen year old, and my son

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Speaker 3: has never acted. He did acting. He did acting class

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Speaker 3: for six weeks prior the audish and you know, one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 3: five times and ended up getting the gig.

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Speaker 1: So he's coming with me for six weeks. And it's

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Speaker 1: he's scared. I'm scared. You know, we're all scared scared

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Speaker 1: because it's like, what is going on. I just don't

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Speaker 2: I just don't want him to make that face he

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Speaker 4: Like yes, and You're like, what is this face? You're

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Speaker 5: Stops like almost like looking trying to look a little mean.

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Speaker 1: It's like he's got like kind of like a poudy mouth.

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Speaker 4: It's like any biz, family business, or any kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was like, where do I die? Where

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Speaker 3: I'm doing a Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Movie for Netflix. Well, let's get into your child. He

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Speaker 4: You came, like you said, a security family, your your your.

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Speaker 5: Dad is well Allent so like very Middle America suburbia.

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Speaker 5: But it was not like I I just you know,

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Speaker 5: Did you ever?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever done Godspell?

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Speaker 5: Like my first auditioned for a Charlie Brown Christmas, did

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Speaker 2: One of the characters.

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Speaker 5: But you would have to audition, like in front of everybody.

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Speaker 1: And the guy's like, can you juggle? And I'm like no,

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, horrible, horrible, And forget the commercials where

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Speaker 5: And I remember going into auditions where they're like, okay,

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Speaker 2: It's a gunloading, gunloading, gumfloading.

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Speaker 2: Before you do something gunloading.

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Speaker 1: How many siblings?

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Speaker 5: I have a younger brother, almost kind of Irish twins.

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Speaker 5: like really took one of them very seriously. It was

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00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 5: a big surprise, like I think it was for my

445
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 5: thirty fifth birthday, but literally like Tom Cruise appeared in

446
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 5: that one, and Caper sothermand appeared in that and like

447
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 5: and my brother is having to act.

448
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: With Oh my god, that's the greatest joke really, so funny.

449
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yes, but we were very close. But I

450
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 5: wondered that too because growing up, you know, my love

451
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 5: a theater. And it wasn't like I said, oh I

452
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 5: am I want to like go to la and making

453
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 5: the movies. I was just like, I love to do this.

454
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 5: I love being on stage.

455
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 2: I love but.

456
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 5: We never there's like never a competition because we never

457
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 5: wanted to do the same thing.

458
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: But and it sounds like with you because you.

459
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 5: Were more of the filmmaker and Kate was the performer.

460
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there's a competition. There's envy and heavy jealousy,

461
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 1: you know.

462
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, but no, really I want to know now having

463
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 5: my own.

464
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: Kids and ask these questions. We ask these questions all

465
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: the time.

466
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 3: And it's funny because Wilder now got this part, and

467
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 3: I wonder what rider feels, you know, how body feels

468
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 3: and whatever, But no, look, you.

469
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 4: Riders do like heady right now and like school with

470
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 4: right immensely.

471
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 3: It's like I'm gonna be a dramatic I get weepy

472
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 3: when I think about their success totally.

473
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: At the same time, there's a part of you that's like,

474
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 1: I wish I fucking do that. I mean, I wish

475
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: I could work with like amazing creative.

476
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 2: P Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I wish, like you know,

477
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: I don' want.

478
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 6: To do damn.

479
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: I mean I have that. I mean, and it can

480
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: be it can be poisoned too. I mean I can

481
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 3: let it go to a place where it's just like

482
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 3: that's unhealthy. Yeah, you know, I'm not wishing any sort

483
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 3: of harm to anyone's career. But at the same time,

484
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, this is feeling too much now,

485
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 3: Like why are you right?

486
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 5: Why are you making it so.

487
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Jesus Oliver relaxed.

488
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 3: But you know, it's like, well, there they have all

489
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 3: that money and they're fucking global. You're finding global asp

490
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 3: really like Southwest and eight connections.

491
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: But I'm fine.

492
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 5: I'm but I also think being able to like say

493
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: it out loud and like.

494
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 3: But no, I mean, you know, it's it's it's healthy.

495
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: It's I think it's healthy. I think that it's natural,

496
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 3: you know, as long as it doesn't get.

497
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 5: Destructive, right, right, right, and there's love and sports like support.

498
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 2: But you're right, like, I.

499
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 5: Think it is interesting with the cousins and with that

500
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 5: sort of thing of like do you only have one sibling?

501
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: I only have one. Yeah, you guys are so close,

502
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: so they just we're really close.

503
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 5: And he also doesn't have kids of his own, so

504
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 5: my my kids are.

505
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 2: He's so close with our kids.

506
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: What was growing up like just generally, you know, I mean.

507
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 2: Was it wholesome?

508
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 4: Was it as wholesome as your as your burger king?

509
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 5: We grew up Catholic, but not like you know we

510
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 5: we I mean I went to twelve years of Catholic school,

511
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 5: so I spent a lot of time in church and

512
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 5: things like that. But as a family, it wasn't like

513
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 5: we were at church. We went on Christmas, we went

514
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 5: on Easter, we went on the holidays.

515
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 6: No.

516
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 5: No, Now, my mom and her later years, my mom

517
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 5: is still very Catholic, and you know, but she's also

518
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 5: like missed spirituality and very open minded Catholic.

519
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: If that's that's even impossible.

520
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: It's kind of how the Hudsons are very very Italian

521
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 4: Catholic and but but very spiritual.

522
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 5: Yes, you know, and that's not always the case. So

523
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 5: I think it's kind of a good combination. But you know,

524
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 5: my brother and I were, I think because we were

525
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 5: so close and we were very different personality wise, Like

526
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 5: I was really the type a like I'm all the

527
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 5: stupid stereotypes of like the perfectionist and this, and and

528
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 5: because I was always one step ahead of him, he

529
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 5: bugged me a lot, like older sibling. Like I always

530
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 5: feel like, because I got my driver's license before him,

531
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 5: he didn't have to take the bus, so I would

532
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 5: drive him to school, but he would be late, right

533
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 5: and I would be waiting for him, and he would

534
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 5: just roll down with his bolder you know. He was

535
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 5: just everything was very laid back, which I would love

536
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 5: my I would love to like live a day in

537
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 5: that body of just feeling like, let's just roll with

538
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 5: the punches. Yeah, because my brother, I feel like you

539
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 5: probably somewhere along the way met him at some party

540
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 5: or event. I've met your brother. Yeah, he's so he's

541
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 5: everybody loves him. He's such a sweetheart. But but we

542
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 5: were very different. So I remember us fighting a lot. Yeah,

543
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,479
Speaker 5: I mean I definitely remember us really butting heads, but

544
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 5: like fiercely loyal to each other and would stand up

545
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 5: for each other, but like who's who's the favorite?

546
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: And I mean, were you mom and Dad's favorite? Was

547
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: he the favorite?

548
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 5: Here's the thing I think my brother I I didn't.

549
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,239
Speaker 5: I was a very good girls, a rule follower. The

550
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 5: things I did do, I never got caught. And everything

551
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 5: my brother did, like everything, he got caught with the

552
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 5: keg in the trunk and with trying to transport in

553
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 5: my mother's car and like out denting it.

554
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: Because the keg was you know what I mean, and

555
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: he would lie I got it.

556
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 4: I don't know how this happened, but Oliver always got caught,

557
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 4: but I got in trouble. So it was like, wait,

558
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 4: I didn't do this, Olivers.

559
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 5: Wait how many years apart are you guys?

560
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: And a half and a half.

561
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 4: But somehow it was always like my I didn't do something,

562
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 4: to make sure he didn't do something.

563
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: It was like, you know, and then and then we

564
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: became more in cahoots once we started throwing parties. Yeah,

565
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: then like behind our parents' back. It's like, okay, like

566
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: we're in this together now, we have to yes.

567
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: Yes.

568
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 5: And I've heard you guys talk a little bit about

569
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 5: like when you get to that age and the sort

570
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 5: of crossover of like Kate's friends and there's like little flirtations.

571
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 5: My brother always wanted to be around when the girlfriends

572
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 5: there was a big sleepover.

573
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that switch because Kate used to be all hanging

574
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: around me. I'm like, hey, get out of here. And

575
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: then that flipped when you know, she was old enough

576
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: and her girlfriends were over and I'm like, what's up

577
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: are you guys doing.

578
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: Kid's like, Oliver, get out, you're creepy.

579
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 4: Oh god, But my girlfriends did always go hang out

580
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 4: with you, which.

581
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: Was yes, it all worked out.

582
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 4: I'd be like, Carla, we're leaving, like, oh two seconds

583
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 4: he with Oliver.

584
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 5: Well, I found out much later on, like like years later,

585
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 5: that my brother had had a whole like hidden relationship

586
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 5: with one of our babysitters the island hang about when

587
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 5: the kids were very little.

588
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: Like he was like, yeah, yeah, Catherine and I that.

589
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 5: Was a that was a while, and then they ended

590
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 5: up getting together for a while too, Like, but I

591
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 5: was like, wait, that actually happened while you were still

592
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 5: living in la He's like, oh my god, everyone knew

593
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 5: you guys just know awesome.

594
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

595
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 3: When did you sort of have your break. You know,

596
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: when was it like, all right, I'm out, I'm leaving.

597
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 5: This is you mean from la from Yeah, from Allentown, Oh,

598
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 5: from Allentown.

599
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: I want to be an actor, you know I was.

600
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 5: I was literally just applying to colleges, still going into

601
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 5: the city and doing some commercials. That was like my

602
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 5: junior year of high school that I started that. I

603
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 5: got that Burger Con commercial and then and then I

604
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 5: got this series for Nickelodeon, which was a very like

605
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 5: it was not the network it is now. It was

606
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 5: sort of just up and coming. This is nineteen eighty nine.

607
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 5: So I was a senior in high school and I

608
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 5: got this show called Hey Dude, I remember, which was

609
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 5: like a bunch of kids on a dude ranch and

610
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 5: we shot it in Tucson, Arizona, and horses and cowboy hats.

611
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 4: I was seventeen, so fun was there so many naughty

612
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: things happening?

613
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, seventeen at.

614
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 5: That age that must have been like, well, at that age,

615
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 5: and also at a time where like they didn't have

616
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 5: our parents come out there with us yet yet they

617
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 5: assigned us like some sort of a legal guardian who

618
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 5: was also like the accountant who paid us the perdem.

619
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: Exactly, you know that joint.

620
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it was wild West was the wild West?

621
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 5: No, But you know we were also like they didn't,

622
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 5: you know at the very beginning, like they didn't. We

623
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 5: didn't even have a rental car to get around, and

624
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 5: so we were like in a hotel and we would

625
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 5: just get the shuttle to the set every day and

626
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 5: we went like we would go to the mall, we'd

627
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 5: go minitter golfing. There was I'm a lot of like craziness,

628
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 5: but within the sort of the hotel because the whole

629
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 5: cruisdade there too. Again, I was pretty much of a

630
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 5: rule follower. I was kind of.

631
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: Are you still I mean, did you break out of that?

632
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 5: Let me just I'll give you an example of like

633
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 5: I am. Yes, I think I fear authority. Like I

634
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 5: I literally if I get pulled over for a ticket

635
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 5: for feeding or something, it's just my my knee jerk

636
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 5: reactions to cry. Yeah, like it's nothing bad. I'm just

637
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 5: gonna get a ticket, it's.

638
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: Not a big deal. But I will literally cry because

639
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: I just feel.

640
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: Like not going to like the same way she follows

641
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: so many rules. I'm like, babe, do you turn like

642
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: just no, I'm like, but literally, it's one am.

643
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: There's no one here. No, no, we're getting fights over

644
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: like you have to break.

645
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: Some rules, right, That's why I feel like I want.

646
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 5: I mean, now in my fifties, it's like, can I

647
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 5: just loosen up a little bit?

648
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm getting a little better.

649
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 5: However, my son, who's nineteen, he's a little like me,

650
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 5: and I feel like Ella and Ben are very similar.

651
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 5: Quinn and I are very similar to but like to

652
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 5: the point where we were on vacation and on the

653
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 5: and he's a really picky eater, my son, and you know,

654
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 5: we went to a restaurant and it says kids menu,

655
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 5: and of course he wants to go to the kids

656
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 5: menu because.

657
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: They've got like the cats and the and the girl, cheese.

658
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 5: And and and he's and it says like adults only please,

659
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 5: Like they give a gentle suggestion of like please, you know,

660
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 5: regular folks don't order the girl, the kids men and

661
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 5: so and and Quinn and I are both like in

662
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 5: a panic about.

663
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: It, right because you just to order.

664
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: He goes, he goes, what should I say? Like, what

665
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: should I say? I was like, just order it. See

666
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: what she says.

667
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 5: And if she says something, we'll say that you have

668
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 5: an ally and honestly, Ellen be are like, what the

669
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 5: hell are you guys doing?

670
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: Like just the waitress is not going to say.

671
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: Anything, of course not you're talking.

672
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,959
Speaker 5: I don't know why we get so it's it's it's

673
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 5: a thing.

674
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: It's a thing.

675
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 5: Like I I still at this age in my life

676
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 5: like I aspire. I keep saying, like when I grew up,

677
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 5: I'd like to be more like my daughter. He's twenty two,

678
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 5: almost twenty three, just like knows what.

679
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 2: Naked and happy, just butt naked and happy.

680
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 5: I imagine if today I was like, yeah, she's still

681
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 5: just that was the Juilliard naked enough.

682
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: Now are you where are you? Are you still east coast?

683
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 5: Where east coast?

684
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 6: Yeah? We are?

685
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: I know.

686
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 5: I was talking to Oliver coming in like hearing, are

687
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 5: you guys all okay?

688
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 6: Hey?

689
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 7: Like I just I mean, I just came from the school,

690
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 7: my kids school, and we did this thing called a

691
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 7: council for the adults that they do every year, and like.

692
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 4: One parent goes and then you're not supposed to do

693
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 4: it with your spouse and you meet other parents. But

694
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: it's like go out in a circle and talk about

695
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 4: like your feelings or they give it prompt and I

696
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 4: wasn't gonna go because I'm like, oh, there's just too

697
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 4: much and there's too logistics happening and everything, and you know,

698
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 4: we're palisades, like og palisades.

699
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: I know you are.

700
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 5: I remember I thought of all of you guys.

701
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 4: So even though our house is good and we're good,

702
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 4: it's just so there's just so much happening right now

703
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 4: with our friends and people that work in our community,

704
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 4: and you're just in it, and like even just the

705
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 4: logistics of like am I going to be able.

706
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: To get home? Can we get home? All that just

707
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: in it?

708
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: Right?

709
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? But I get to I'm like, I'm not going

710
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: to go, and I'm like I gotta go. I gotta

711
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: be like a good.

712
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: Crying the whole time.

713
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 4: I sat down in that chair, and the second the

714
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 4: second the leader of the council was like, I just

715
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 4: want to thank everybody for I was burst into tears.

716
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 4: I was just like, oh my god. And then I'm

717
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 4: so bad that I started apologizing to everybody.

718
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, I am so sorry.

719
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 4: I realized I haven't cried and and I.

720
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: Haven't started crying.

721
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: Now I might cry.

722
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 4: I haven't started the grieving process of all of the

723
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 4: memories of the places that we grew up, like my

724
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 4: first kiss, the house that I had my first kiss

725
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 4: and gone. And then I'm sitting next to my friend

726
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 4: who I won't name, but he we grew up together.

727
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 4: And then I lost it and then he lost Oh boy,

728
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 4: he lost it.

729
00:36:59,440 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: It was.

730
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: And and you're just you realize, like you're just grieving

731
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: this death of something that isn't human. It's it's a

732
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 4: it's just a place, and they're just things, but it's

733
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 4: like they hold all these special connections and and so yeah,

734
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: I mean that's what's happening. You know, I can't go home,

735
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 4: I guess for like six months to a year or something.

736
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a whole thing.

737
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: Oh, it's crazy. We'll talk about all that later, like

738
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: you know, but you know, I haven't talked about that.

739
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: But then it's just the bigger part of it.

740
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: And then there's the other thing that's really cool and

741
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: amazing to see is that you realize that community, even

742
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 4: though it is a place, is also the people and

743
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: everyone's so connected.

744
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: Well that's why I was just.

745
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 5: Going to say when you said you sat just even

746
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 5: to sit there and have that space to hold like

747
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 5: I that is what I've heard from all of our

748
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 5: friends who are there, and you know it that's it's

749
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 5: I still think of La. It's our home, them away

750
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 5: from home, and we kept a little place there and

751
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 5: it's all of those memories and and the first thoughts

752
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 5: for us too were those places. And but what everyone

753
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 5: has said is just the way Los Angeles has come

754
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 5: together is one of the most pretty amazing things you

755
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 5: could ever imagine in the city.

756
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Ela is a funny, weird city.

757
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 4: You know, it's like filled with so many contradictions, and

758
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 4: you it's like you love it and you hate it

759
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 4: and you want to run from it, and then you

760
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 4: can't wait to get back to it. You know. It's

761
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 4: like it's so it's just one of those cities that

762
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 4: but there's these little pockets that where people don't really.

763
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: Leave them, you know.

764
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: And and so for us, like the Palisades area, it's like,

765
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 4: I don't know, I never leave it.

766
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: I remember, and I don't know.

767
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: I think our childhood home.

768
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 2: Yeah I brought I bought back the house that hapen

769
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: to raise my kids.

770
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 5: Right, But I remember also going to we went Ben

771
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 5: and I went to a Thanksgiving at your parents.

772
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: Yes, yes we did. It was small, It was small.

773
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: This is these are my memories.

774
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 5: We were either both pregnant or I was pregnant, and

775
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 5: I like.

776
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't at the old house, yes, yes.

777
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly the old house. And there were puppies. I remember,

778
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 5: like there were some puppies that had been born that

779
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 5: we went to.

780
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: Like a nana or the yeah.

781
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: Nana, Yeah, puppies. And I know the lab judge, judge,

782
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: it was the labs. Yeah.

783
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 5: Like I So I have these memories and I remember,

784
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 5: like for Ben too big, and I know Ben is

785
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 5: and I know Ben has told this to Kurt and

786
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 5: Goldie too, like Ben's like deep rooted obsession with Kurt,

787
00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 5: like hisire.

788
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 2: I was sort of like, yeah, I've heard it before.

789
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 5: I know, I know you love me, go on, But

790
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 5: I just remember we had that you know, this is

791
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 5: kind of a thing I love of like those moments

792
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 5: because we had gotten to we were spending time with

793
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 5: you and Chris at the time, and like I just

794
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 5: remember it was like a circle of us and we

795
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 5: were showing up a lot of like dinner parties and

796
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 5: things together and we weren't going back East or something.

797
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 5: So you and you guys invited us. We went to Thanksgiving,

798
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 5: but and I just remember Ben's fascination with Kurt talking

799
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 5: about hunting.

800
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah it was bow and arrow, like that.

801
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 5: Was Kurt's story, and it's just been like I like

802
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 5: never seen my husband more on that, like on Hurt

803
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 5: every word, you know, like every word, and like I

804
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 5: remember us driving home and it was just sort of

805
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 5: like like, I just there's just not a cooler guy,

806
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 5: Like they're people like he just like and still to

807
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 5: this day he says it every time he runs into

808
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 5: your your parents, how amazing they are.

809
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 4: I have to say the older Kurt gets I feel

810
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 4: that way too. I just feel like he actually gets

811
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 4: cool or even as he gets old.

812
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 5: Is that just like how is this if that's possible?

813
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like yeah, it's it's pretty it's pretty interesting.

814
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 5: But having these moments like as you know, because for

815
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 5: having lived in l A a long time and we'd

816
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 5: you know, go to fun part dinner parties and things

817
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 5: like that where you're like these amazing people and like

818
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 5: people that we grew up watching and you know that

819
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 5: and admired, and I you know, I always like would

820
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 5: love like Ben and I would have that moment of

821
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 5: getting in the car on the drive home and be like, well,

822
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 5: that was just like the coolest thing ever. Like you,

823
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 5: you don't get I still don't.

824
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: Like.

825
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 5: I still if I go to a basketball game and

826
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 5: like Lebron comes over and high five, I'm like, that's

827
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 5: the coolest thing ever.

828
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 2: Like nothing, I do this.

829
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 5: I do this same thing right like you, there's still

830
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 5: moments because people people like, there's like I.

831
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 4: Think it's like any I mean, I mean, it would

832
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 4: be weird to not have reverence for people who like

833
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 4: if you love great art, great work and great athleticism

834
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 4: and sports, like, it would be so weird to not

835
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: have reverence for the people that you admire, Like, you know,

836
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:26,959
Speaker 4: it's like the same.

837
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter how I've.

838
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: Done, you know, the athletes, it's just from a bit

839
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: from the age of baby.

840
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: They've committed to this sport and have excelled to the

841
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: greatest spot in it, and that level of work, ethic

842
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 3: and determination and commitment to it is so intense. It's

843
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: you watch it happen, you know, you're just wow, I

844
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: mean it's.

845
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: You're yeah, it is true. I actually feel the same

846
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: about writers.

847
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 4: And directors because it's sort of this like people think

848
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 4: it's easy to make a movie.

849
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: It's so hard to make.

850
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,479
Speaker 8: A movie, what it likes, what it takes even get

851
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 8: it to happen, Like you know, it's like even like

852
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 8: the worst movie is a feat just to have gotten

853
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 8: it to be made.

854
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: You know.

855
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 4: It's like I have people who can actually like have

856
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 4: this vision, create it from the inception and then like

857
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 4: you see it and it's incredible.

858
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: You're like, that's just yeah.

859
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 4: I know, the type of same kind of determination and

860
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: like focus and drive as like I think some some athletes.

861
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, so true.

862
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 5: Then what was like the moment, Well, they hate dude,

863
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 5: and that was what was so we I did hate

864
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 5: dude for a couple of years, Like we did like

865
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 5: five seasons of it over a couple of years, a

866
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 5: lot of episodes. At that point, like moved to La sort.

867
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: Of that thing of like uh with the family.

868
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 5: No, I was by my I was, you know, because

869
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 5: I'd been out in Tucson for a couple of years

870
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 5: and we had made a lot of friends and this

871
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 5: time eighteen, this time I was by this time, I

872
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 5: was nineteen.

873
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're nineteen, so you're free and clearly so.

874
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: I was free.

875
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 5: I had gotten into college, but I was sort of like,

876
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 5: I'm going to still put college off for a bit

877
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 5: and go to LA and see because I had and

878
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 5: I had a friend out there who was looking for

879
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 5: a roommate. And I mean it took time, Like I

880
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 5: I I no one had heard of hey, dude, because

881
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 5: Nickelodeon was such a like it was a fledgling cable network,

882
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 5: so no one really knew. I remember, I think I

883
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 5: even had a casting director like question, like, oh, you

884
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 5: did sixty five episodes.

885
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: Of a show I never heard of.

886
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 5: I was, sorry, you're not really the demo it was

887
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 5: for like ten year olds, but.

888
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: You're fucking casting director, so shut the fuck up.

889
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: I was like, I.

890
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 5: Would never make that up on a resume. And that

891
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 5: was at a time where they were like, just just

892
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 5: cushion your resume, but y skills, special skills. But for me,

893
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 5: it was a lot of you know, like little episodic

894
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 5: jobs on things like Saved by the Bell and Blossom

895
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 5: and all of those shows. And then for me it

896
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 5: was the Brady Bunch that it was really like the

897
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 5: I did a little stint in the real Live Brady Bunch,

898
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 5: which was kind of like they sort of spoofed episodes

899
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 5: with an adult cast playing the kids and at the

900
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 5: Westwood Playhouse. And I did that for a little period

901
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 5: of time and then auditioned for the movie, and like

902
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 5: had heard it my whole life that I was sort

903
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 5: of very Marcia Brady and I was also obsessed with

904
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 5: The Brady Bunch growing up, so I knew every episode

905
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 5: and like, I'm a real nerd when it comes to that,

906
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 5: and but yeah, a few auditions got that and then

907
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 5: that that that like shifted things, like it opened up

908
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 5: a lot of doors. It wasn't like life changed over

909
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 5: night the game, though yes, I didn't have to read

910
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 5: for casting directors anymore. I got offered some TV shows

911
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 5: and things like that. So it was that was really

912
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 5: the sort of.

913
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: Did you meet Ben on a movie?

914
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 5: I met Ben on a pilot that he was directing,

915
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 5: a pilot called heat Vision and Jack, which has kind

916
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 5: of gotten this like weird cult, like it's on YouTube.

917
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 5: It's starring Jack Black and Owen Wilson as a talking motorcycle.

918
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 5: And it was sort of like it was like a

919
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 5: night Rider meets Star Trek meets six million dollar man,

920
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 5: like weird hybrid meant to be sort of seventy style,

921
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 5: but this was like eight or ninety nine, nineteen ninety

922
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 5: eight or ninety nine. Yeah, And I went in on

923
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 5: and I like, I was a Ben Stiller fan. I

924
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 5: love the Ben Stiller Show. I auditioned for him. He

925
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 5: didn't want to cast.

926
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 2: Me, Amos. I tell this story all the time. It

927
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: was like he he.

928
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 5: Wanted to cast someone else because he was like, she's

929
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 5: a little too Marsha Brady for me. And then the

930
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 5: the Fox forced me forced me.

931
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: On him said no, you are casting her.

932
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 6: So that was.

933
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 5: It was he like he did not know in fact

934
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 5: I would. And I don't know if you had this experience, Kate,

935
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 5: I don't know when how if you knew how long

936
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 5: you've known Ben. But I felt like the first time

937
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 5: I met Ben, because I had also at that point

938
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 5: worked with Adam Sandler and I had done Friends, and

939
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 5: I'd worked with like a lot of comedic forces, like

940
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 5: I had worked with really funny people. But when I

941
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 5: met Ben, I was like, he's so serious, so serious,

942
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 5: You're like, I was like, he's not cracking jokes, Like.

943
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 2: He's also like looking.

944
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 5: At me in my eyes when I'm talking to you

945
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 5: him too, which is very intensely.

946
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: Another thing, I'm very serious.

947
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 5: Nobody in Hollywood like looks you in the eyes, right,

948
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 5: you're kind of looking past you to see if somebody right,

949
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 5: you know, I scared.

950
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: I was like, he's very serious. But then you know,

951
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: and then.

952
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 5: I got to see like the sort of you know,

953
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 5: genius at work and working with him and Jack, and.

954
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: Was that is that attractive? Does that add to it?

955
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 3: Meaning watch someone who is good at what they do?

956
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: Is that does that bring on even more attraction? And

957
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: of course, I mean.

958
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 2: What kind of question is that?

959
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 4: Of course, no, I want the person I went to

960
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: be terrible at what they do.

961
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: Well, okay, if he was, if he was shitty at

962
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: what he did, would you still.

963
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 5: Be with well if he was if he was like

964
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 5: a mean director or like a missive or guy like he.

965
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: Is, just like he's not very talented and he's kind

966
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: of getting by.

967
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Loaded.

968
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 5: But the other cool thing was I, as I have,

969
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 5: I only knew him pass, I only knew him as

970
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 5: an actor, Like I knew he directed Reality Bites and

971
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 5: I loved that movie. But like, get us to see

972
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 5: somebody direct, like I think you're right, like I do think, yes,

973
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 5: there's something, and he's such an actor's director and he's

974
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 5: like so specific when it comes to the comedy and

975
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 5: getting it and the weirdness of it, and I think

976
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 5: just our sensibilities. But no, he didn't hit on me

977
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 5: at all. He was dating, kind of dating breaking.

978
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: Up with someone else.

979
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 5: I was kind of going through a breakup, and like

980
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 5: when the thing wrapped, he was like, hey, you want

981
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 5: to grab dinner? And you both were kind of like

982
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 5: fizzling out and these other relationships, and I was like, yeah,

983
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 5: let's go to dinner.

984
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 2: And then it just was like it was easy, but

985
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 2: it's also very private, like where was your first dinner?

986
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you remember?

987
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: You remember her?

988
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: Yes, of course I do. It was Michelle's in the vow.

989
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: I know Michelle.

990
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: Michelle's Michelle.

991
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 5: It was in the vat I lived off the Laurel

992
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 5: Canyon is it's on Ventura like right now. It's where

993
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 5: they had the singing waiters who would sing show.

994
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 2: Too okay okay, oh fun And it was not.

995
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 5: Meant to be a romantic place because like we didn't

996
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 5: even have the play. But it was funny because I

997
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 5: think he was also like, you know, something about Mary

998
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 5: had already come out, like there were like stories about him,

999
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 5: and I think he was We were wanting to like

1000
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 5: fly under the radar, so we found like a quiet

1001
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 5: place Broadway show where they sing Broadway show tunes while

1002
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 5: you get your pizza.

1003
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 4: Does he ever like tell you what is going to

1004
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 4: happen in the in like shows like Severance, like do

1005
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 4: you know what happens.

1006
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: You guys, like are you aware?

1007
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 6: Well know?

1008
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: If you know, well that has to be and of

1009
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: course what if he's like sorry, but here's the thing.

1010
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 5: But during you know, but the way they do that show,

1011
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 5: and the first season was during COVID, so there were

1012
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 5: no like set visits or anything like that.

1013
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 2: So there was everything was very bubbled in a way.

1014
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: But when he was.

1015
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 5: Editing, because it was all remote, it was all at home.

1016
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 5: He was editing, so I and when episodes rough cuts

1017
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 5: of episodes were done, we were the test audience, like

1018
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 5: we were his test audience. But then like I remember

1019
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 5: him editing once after season, like during season one, and

1020
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 5: I remember walking by and I was like, oh, I

1021
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 5: think I just heard a spoiler. I think I just

1022
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 5: heard because I wanted to see them.

1023
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 4: Well see, it's like Danny won't read any anything because

1024
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 4: he wants to actually enjoy.

1025
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: It, right, Yeah, and that's I doesn't want to know.

1026
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 5: I don't. I didn't want to read the scripts or

1027
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 5: anything like that, but I do like we did get

1028
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 5: to see the whole We like, I've seen all of

1029
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 5: season two.

1030
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 2: We give he lets us give us some note, give

1031
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:00,959
Speaker 2: him some notes?

1032
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: Does he take them?

1033
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: He likes to hear it sort of.

1034
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: Ye what about?

1035
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 6: What about?

1036
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: What about?

1037
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 6: What about?

1038
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 5: He wants to hear like the visceral reaction. It's not

1039
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 5: like I'm giving notes.

1040
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: You got to cut out of that scene?

1041
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.

1042
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: You know what's funny.

1043
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 4: It's almost like when you're really good at what you do,

1044
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 4: which he is, you just need to be in a

1045
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 4: room of people and you immediately are.

1046
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 2: Like, I gotta cut that.

1047
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: Like you don't even need to.

1048
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 7: You can feel like that's exactly right, that's exactly right.

1049
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 5: You know, when something is like or if I or

1050
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 5: if it ends, and I'm like, but what did he

1051
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 5: mean by then He's like, okay, good because we weren't

1052
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 5: sure if that was clear. Because they're so in it,

1053
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 5: He's like, okay, we might need to add a thing to.

1054
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 3: Claricy, he's directed you, like many times. Has it ever

1055
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 3: been like babe, like shut up, no, I mean, or

1056
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: or like okay, I don't I mean, has there ever

1057
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: been any or is it always just kind of fun?

1058
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: It's been really fun.

1059
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 5: I trust him and like I really do feel safe

1060
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 5: in And he's not like a micro manager when it

1061
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 5: comes to performances in that way, like it doesn't have

1062
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 5: to be, you know. And I think he's just like

1063
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,959
Speaker 5: very generous when it comes to so I've never had

1064
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 5: those moments where I felt like Okay, enough enough. And

1065
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 5: it's been you know, it's been a while too. It

1066
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 5: hasn't been like you know it was in a lot

1067
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 5: of our younger years.

1068
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love her.

1069
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: I love her too.

1070
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 4: I get I have all these crazy what I'm it's

1071
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 4: like I wanted to share all these memories that I

1072
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 4: have with them and and but I but I didn't.

1073
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 3: No, I know, she's she's so great and so open

1074
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 3: and candid, and I love that, you know, she tells

1075
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 3: her story and unafraid of it honestly.

1076
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, and I.

1077
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 4: Think and I feel like it's so great. We're going

1078
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 4: to split up two parts because.

1079
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: Of course we're splitting it out. We're splitting up. It's

1080
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:04,959
Speaker 1: gonna be a two parter.

1081
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna split up and we're gonna get back together.

1082
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,479
Speaker 1: Like my hairline. My hairline's becoming a two parter, Kate,

1083
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 1: do you see.

1084
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 2: It, it's like a three Look at this.

1085
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: I think I'm re seating.

1086
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: Oh no, Ollie, this is weird. This isn't like you.

1087
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 3: I'm going to I'm going to fucking get some implants

1088
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 3: or what are they called plugs?

1089
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 2: A hair transplant, like just right here?

1090
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 6: That ship up?

1091
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 2: All right? Can we not talk about your vanity?

1092
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 3: I know, but I'm getting older now. I just had

1093
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 3: a lot of sun spots burned off of me.

1094
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: I know.

1095
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: I heard doctor Diamond really went to town on that.

1096
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: God damn, he went to town.

1097
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 3: Taking blood out of my body, spinning it, shooting plasma

1098
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 3: over my face.

1099
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: At least as we said it was, let's get out

1100
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: of here before it gets work. Okay, I love it you.

1101
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 2: That's okay.

1102
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: Bye m