1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian to just wonder what's the caliber and level 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: of skill set in the dealership that that we'll just 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: leave extra screws lyne around. That's extra parts, you know. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the theory. Maybe if you get back to 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: the dealership enough times, you have enough part slipt over, 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: you can build a whole note a car the Car Doctor. 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: The truth is it came out to almost worth of 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: an up cell, all off of a free airbag. Recall. 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Nanian the 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the world 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: overturn to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 12 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: phone and call in the garage doors are open, but 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: I am here to take your call at eight five 15 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: five six and now he is running. Hello and welcome 16 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: Monini and the Car Doctor here at eight five five 17 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: five zero nine nine zero zero the Car Doctor phone number. 18 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: As always, as we kick off today our twenty fifth 19 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: year of radio broadcasting talking about automobiles and solving problems 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: for all of you across America today eight five five 21 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: five six zero nine nine zero zero. I'm Moroni in 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Happy to be here, proud to serve 23 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: and help you in any way that I can solve 24 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: your automotive problem. And it's nice to be back here 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: on the New Year's weekend edition of The Car Doctors 26 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: that we were off last week. I was stuck at 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: the North Pole last week. I don't know if anybody 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: caught that, but um, I was helping the big guy 29 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: in the in the red suit in the sleigh um 30 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: get his act together, and I got trapped up there. Boy, 31 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: they have so much snow. I don't know about this 32 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: global warming thing, but there's enough snow up there to 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: make you think that, um, they could export it and 34 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: probably cover everywhere from Florida all the way up north 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: through New Jersey and out west path California, cover the country. 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: They got so much snow at the North Pole, I wonder. 37 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: I don't know where to start this story and a 38 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: true story. It was just just today I was I 39 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: was out having breakfast. You know, my my my weekend routine. 40 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: I uh, you know, I always go out for early 41 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: breakfast on show day and kind of just relaxing, unwined, 42 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: and um, I like the little deli that I go 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: to It's It's it's really Americana. It's a cross section 44 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: of everybody and everything, and the conversation of automotive comes up, 45 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: and I get to listen in on conversations, and I 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: also have conversations directed at me, because when you're the 47 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: when you're the mechanic per se, you're you're you're that guy. 48 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: And it was interesting. One of the one of the 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: regulars was telling me now a couple of weeks ago 50 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: he had had a conversation with me. His late model 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: um Buick had a problem with the backup camera and 52 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: it didn't work. And I said to him, listen, before 53 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: you go anywhere and try to, uh, you know, spend 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: any kind of money, why don't you go in and 55 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: get an hour's diagnosis. Has somebody diagnosed the backup camera? 56 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: And because he still had some warrantee and he was 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: trying to decide, you know, should he fix it, shouldn't 58 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: be and so on, why don't you have somebody diagnosed 59 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: the backup camera, do an overall stick out your tongue 60 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: and say, oh, and see what kind of shaped the 61 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: vehicles in And then you know, decide are you going 62 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: to fix it or are you just gonna drive it 63 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: with the backup camera not working. He took it in 64 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: this buick and I think it's a Lacrosse is the 65 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: version of what it was. And he came to me 66 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: today and he said, here's what happened. I said, sure, 67 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: go ahead. Uh it needed a backup camera. Well, he 68 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: didn't have the backup camera diagnosed because it turned out 69 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: that it also needed some breaks, It needed four tires, 70 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: and he needed about seven worth of general service that 71 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: he hadn't done because he's been driving this car for 72 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: five years and he had spent any money on it 73 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: except paying it off. And the numbers when they ended up, 74 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: including the final camera repair, he said he was about 75 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: thirty all in for tires, breaks, some fluid maintenance, and 76 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: then the additional the camera I think was about worth 77 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: of that thirty. So he looked at me and he said, 78 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, I thought about it, and I decided to 79 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: trade the car in. And I wasn't surprised because I 80 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: think there's a threshold that all of you hit. And 81 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's different, I guess for different people 82 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: in different parts of the country, but there's a threshold 83 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: where people will say some say five thousand isn't enough, 84 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: and some say five is too much to maintain a car, 85 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: to repair of cars to the point of where they'll 86 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: get rid of it. And I'm still trying to figure 87 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: out where that is and and and that's what this 88 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: this open is really about. Where is that threshold? What 89 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: is your threshold? And and how do you come to that? 90 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: Because I'm really trying hard to understand it because here's 91 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: a car that was perfectly good, five going on six 92 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: year old car with forty five thousand miles on it, 93 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: that was all paid for, no debt, and it needed 94 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: tire there's breaks in some service. And okay, you drove 95 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: the car for five years. You you drove the car. 96 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: You you gotta put money into it. I mean, there's 97 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: no because here's the side I don't get. I don't 98 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: want to spend any money on this car. He went 99 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: out and spent twenty six thousand dollars on a three 100 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: year old used car that in two years. Guess what 101 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna need breaks, tires, fluids, It's gonna need the 102 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: same thing that the car that he brought knew that 103 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: he knows the exact history on needed it's gonna need 104 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: and I keep thinking to myself, and we let these 105 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: people vote and reproduce. It's like, how does this happen? How? 106 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: How can we not Maybe Trump is right with regards 107 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: to debt. Maybe we just don't see it. Maybe we 108 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: all just think spending more money is the way to 109 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,559 Speaker 1: get out of the problem of not having enough money. 110 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: There comes a point in an automobile where it's diminishing return. 111 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: But if you're within the sound of my voice, whether 112 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: it's live or podcast or delayed broadcast, or however you're 113 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: picking up this radio show, you really got to have 114 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: a conversation in your head. What is it costing you 115 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: to drive that car per mile? Because nothing's for free. 116 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: There's no free lunch in this world. And when it 117 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: comes to an automobile, that car is costing you money. 118 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: Sitting in the driveway going nowhere, it's still aging, it's 119 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: still breaking down by component, by environment, by the way 120 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: it's being treated. You know what, Life's too short. I 121 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: get that part, and I get that we all want 122 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: to have shiny new cars, and we all I don't 123 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: want to spend any money. I understand all that. But 124 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: the reality is, when you're talking about an automobile, there 125 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: are a couple of rules that are absolute. Number one, 126 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: you can't drive it for free. You may get away 127 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: with it for a couple of three or four years, 128 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: but somewhere down the line, the grim reaper is sitting there, 129 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: gone yeah, and it's it's gonna make you pay for 130 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: that at some point. The other thing that's an absolute 131 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: is the road is a very unforgiving place. And if 132 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: you don't do your due diligence now and repair that 133 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: car now, that car is gonna put you on the 134 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: side of the road and create an even bigger problem. 135 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: And that's what you've got to think about. Are you 136 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: able to understand the advantage of maintenance? Do you understand 137 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: the advantage of maintenance done properly, or are you gonna 138 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: sit there with your head stuck in the sand going nope, 139 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: I don't need to take care of this car. I 140 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: paid a lot of money for it, the final lot, 141 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna drive it the way it is 142 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: until it breaks. Define that for me, and we're gonna 143 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: look at that this year, because I want to really 144 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: understand how you're thinking. And if you have any comments, 145 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: I want to hear them from you. Send me an 146 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: email Ron at Car Doctor show dot com and let's 147 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: let's have a conversation about it. I want to see 148 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: how do you the consumer think in terms of automobile 149 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: maintenance or is it really listen? Maybe I'm maybe I'm 150 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: just old, Maybe I'm marchaic. Maybe it's time for me 151 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: to go. You know, maybe it really is drive the 152 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: car five years, throw it away, who cares, don't spend 153 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: any money on it, passed the problem onto the next guy. 154 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: I don't think so, because I don't think that's practical. 155 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: I don't think we're able to do that, because sooner 156 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: or later, somewhere down the line, somebody still gotta fix it, 157 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: no matter how old it is. Hello, and welcome Ron 158 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: and Ady in the Car Doctor here at zero, here 159 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: to talk to you about your automobile, solve your problems, 160 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: and make you feel better about it. Maybe that opening 161 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: didn't make you feel better about it, but I'm sure 162 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: it's heck hoping I got you to think about it 163 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: a little bit, because that's what this radio show has 164 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: been about and will continue to be about. That. It's 165 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: really all about looking at the car and understanding as 166 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: much as you can absorb and making you really take 167 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: care of it so we can take care of you 168 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: so you're safe on the road. The road, as I 169 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: said before, and as I've said many times over the 170 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: past twenty five years, is a very unforgiving place. I've 171 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: got an article in front of me. I'm gonna commented 172 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: about it later on this hour. I want to talk 173 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: a little bit about Triple A announcing their roadside battery service, 174 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: and I've got a couple of thoughts on that too, 175 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: so we're gonna talk about that this hour. We're also 176 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: gonna take your calls at five five zero nine nine 177 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: zero zero. I'm running any in the card. Actually, let 178 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: me pull over and take the pause. We'll be back 179 00:09:35,760 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: right after this. Hey, welcome back. We dedicate that open 180 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: to Diane, who we know as a long time listener 181 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: to The Car Doctor, and she appreciates hearing Elvis as 182 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: a billboard as an in and out, so we send 183 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: that out to Diane. She's always sending us emails and 184 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: always has a lot of questions, and we thought we 185 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: would give her a little all of us shot there 186 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: as we kick off this hour of The Car Doctor, 187 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: of this segment of The Car Doctor. Sorry, I'm ronin 188 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor Harry Guess, Happy New Year, Happy New Year, Ron. 189 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: Did you have a nice New Year's? I did have 190 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: a nice New Year's. Did you do anything exciting? Well, 191 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: actually I did. You know, it's amazing technology. Um, I 192 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: actually watched that movie Wally over Skype over my computer 193 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: with the love of my life. Oh boy, who's not here? 194 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: It's just amazing. How call out all work? Can I 195 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: point something out? Point out? Maybe she's the love of 196 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: your life because she's not here. Jeez, I think that 197 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: might be the first time on the lost word. Uh, 198 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: and I did. And since well, the the big news 199 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: this week is before we talk about our first caller, 200 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: the big news this week is you did a five 201 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: k run? Yes, I did a five k. I've dropped 202 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: twenty six pounds and uh getting schwelt. You know you 203 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: can did my first five k I walk jog rant it. 204 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: But you know it's sixty one years old. I only 205 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: had three goals, don't finish last, don't die of a 206 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: heart attack, and uh, enjoying myself. And that's what I did. 207 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: You know we could have the ad Agency talked the subway. 208 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: They're looking for a new spokesperson. Yeah, and that's okay. Yeah, okay, 209 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: let's let's move on. So do you who do you 210 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: got from me online? One? Well online one is Bill 211 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: in Brighton, Michigan, and he's got the prom with a 212 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: ten year old two thousand, four f one fifty that 213 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: affects all of us when you get old no crank, 214 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: no start. Let's see what we can do here. Bill. 215 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, how can I help? Thanks? 216 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: Run as Harry was telling you two thousand four f one. 217 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: It's a five seventy thousand miles automatic transmission truck. Sat 218 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: for three days. Grandson came out to start it. No crank, 219 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: no start. Has not been able to get it to 220 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: go since um dashlights come on and it does have 221 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: a factory security system. Is that light is not blinking? 222 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: The light's not blinking? Okay, first, the first thing I 223 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: want to do, there's a couple of things that are common, 224 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: uh to this bill, in that they have issues with 225 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: a couple of things. Go out to the injectors, the 226 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: red wire at the fuel injectors, which is battery voltage. 227 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: Do you have full battery voltage at the red wire 228 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: at any of those injectors with the ignition switch in 229 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: the run position. If you don't, don't know the answer right, 230 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: And if you don't, all right, take a look at 231 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: FUSE thirty four in the central junction box, which is 232 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: the one under the dash. Is it blown missing right? Um? 233 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: FUS thirty four UM is main power running from the 234 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: ignisance switching the run Also check fuse twenty eight to 235 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: make sure it shows power with the ignisance switch in 236 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: the on position in the run position. All right. If 237 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: if thirty four is blown, what typically happens is take 238 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: a look at the fuel pump driver module, which is 239 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: gonna be in one of two places. Well, I'm gonna 240 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: say one of three, but I doubt it's in the third. 241 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: I usually find it in the rear of the truck, 242 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: inside the area of the rear tail lights left or right. Okay, 243 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: once in a once in a blue moon, I find 244 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: it for some reason in the a pillar kick panel 245 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: on the passenger side. But you know, not likely. I 246 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: think you're gonna find it in the rear of the vehicle. 247 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: That wiring harness that goes to the fuel pump driver module, 248 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: which is what caused fuse thirty four to blow melts 249 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: or get road contaminant on it, and you'll find the 250 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: harness melted and it becomes an issue. And that's all 251 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the truck goes into a crank or 252 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: no crank, no start, just like you've got. All right, 253 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: but those are those are the things I would look at, 254 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: all right, sir, thank you for thank you for helping. 255 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: Congratulations on you. Thank you, Bill. I appreciate it, and 256 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: we can look forward to another twenty five we're hoping. 257 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: Let's go and talk to Don, Lake Placid, Florida and 258 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: see what's going on here. Old five buick rendezvous. Hey, Don, 259 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: you're out with the car. Doctor, Sir, how can I help? 260 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: How are you doing? Run? I'm an old retired mechanic 261 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: and old guy. Now listen, I'm catching up to you. 262 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: So that's an old five brick there. I got an 263 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: old five burrack rendezvous with the three point four in it, right, 264 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: and I got a vibration in this car and it 265 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: goes through the hole like the stirring wheel, the front fenders. 266 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: You can feel it. You can feel it even if 267 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: you put your hands on top of the front tires. Okay, 268 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: and I just I unhooked your serpentine belt, you know, 269 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: to eliminate the alternator and all that, and that didn't 270 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: do anything. So I just wondered if you ever ran 271 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: into it or yeah, let's let's talk about this. Uh 272 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: real quick, don any check engine light on? No? Does 273 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: the check engine light work? Yes? So you turn the 274 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: key to the run position, not starting it. You will 275 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: see service engine soon and then it goes out after 276 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: a couple of seconds. Correct. Okay, So and always important 277 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: just to make sure. You'd be surprised how many cars 278 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: I talked to people about and they go, I think 279 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: it works or yeah, it works, and then they find 280 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: out they go into bulb checking the ball has been 281 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: burnt out for two years, so I had a little 282 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: more experience. Yeah, no, no, just just checking, just checking. 283 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: I so, do you have a scan tool? No? I don't. 284 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: I've been out of the business now since oh three. 285 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: I retired at age sixty, so I sold everything I 286 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: had with business. Good for you, UM escaped, Um you 287 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: know obviously, and I don't have to tell you this, 288 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: but let me just say for everybody else's benefit, I 289 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: would be thinking about motor mounts. And obviously I can't 290 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: feel the vibration from my seat here, but anytime we're 291 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: dealing with a vibration, you know, is the vibration worse 292 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: in gear? Does it change in dry versus reverse? Does 293 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: any of that have any effect on the vibration or 294 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: is it a consistent vibration truly reflecting how the engine 295 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: is running, regardless of gear position or whether or not 296 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: it's in park. It does it? Does it in any 297 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: position at all. I've tried all that stuff. I did 298 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: have those. I guess it's got like struts in the 299 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: back of it. I can't get under the car anymore 300 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: at my age. But I took it into a shop 301 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: here about two years ago, and the motor mounts were 302 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: bad because the engine when you put it in or 303 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: out of gear with rocking, you know, I had I 304 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: guess they're like a struct thing or something type, And 305 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: so I supposedly they replaced those, And I mean they 306 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: must have, because they put the rocking. They replaced what 307 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: the mounts you mean? Oh, you're talking about they changed 308 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: the torque strut? Yeah, okay, okay, what about the regular 309 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: engine mounts themselves? No, they didn't change those, all right, 310 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: So what if we do the old school? Put it 311 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: in drive and gently step on the gas one foot 312 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: on the brake one foot on the gas if we 313 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: power break it, do we see signs of a broken 314 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: motor mount? No? Okay, and we don't see anything in 315 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: reverse either. Then the next place I'd go is once 316 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: we know the engine is mounted properly and insulated properly, 317 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: the next thing I'm gonna have to ask is I 318 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: want to go in with a scan tool and start 319 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: looking at fuel trims. Do I have it? You know, 320 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: I've got an engine that's not setting a check engine light, 321 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: But is I'm gonna make an assumption, which is a 322 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: dangerous word on family radio, that that I've got an 323 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: engine that is physically running rough. First thing I'm gonna 324 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: go look get one of the most telling pieces of 325 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: information any mechanic can pull out of a car, today's 326 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: fuel trim. If if if zero percent was that balance 327 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: their fuel mixture you and I grew up on with carburetors, 328 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: Then I want to see where's fuel trim is it? 329 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: Is it beyond ten percent in any one direction? I 330 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: would not be surprised if it was way negative. I 331 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if this car had a bad fuel 332 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: pressure regulator that was sporadically seeping fuel causing it to 333 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: run the way it does. Take a look at that, 334 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: don and give me a call back next week and 335 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: let me know what's going on. I'm ron Any in 336 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. We're back right after this. Welcome back 337 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: Ronny and the Car Doctor here. Eight zero zero zero. 338 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: I should point out that five zero nine zero zero 339 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: seven number. 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But bottom line, 357 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: you call eight five zero nine zero zero, leave a message, 358 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: They asked, Harry, our executive producer, will call you back 359 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: and get you up here on air and we can 360 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: talk to you about your problem. And don't be afraid 361 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: to come on air. You know, this radio shows all 362 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: about information. We're not gonna hurt you, we're not gonna 363 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: beat you up. We just want to exchange information and 364 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: point out proper procedure for maintaining a car, because that's 365 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: what this radio show is about, always has been about, 366 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: and always will be about. UM. There's no there's no 367 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: nonsense or alternative plan here. Zero nine zero zero. I 368 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: was reading an article before we take go back to 369 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: the phones and start taking calls again. Uh, just today 370 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: and it kind of made me laugh. Triple A is 371 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: doing their big battery push and they're talking now about 372 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: how they've got a um A roadside battery service to 373 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: making a big deal about it, UM with regards to 374 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: installed on the spot and warrantied all across North America 375 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: and delivered anywhere you are. Three and sixty five days 376 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: a year and so on. And I said to myself, 377 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: how can that be? I really, I look at that, 378 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: and I think, isn't that really difficult? I mean, listen, 379 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: here's the deal, all right, if you take upper care 380 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: of the car. I wonder how many batteries failed before 381 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: their time. I wonder how many batteries are being put 382 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: into vehicles quote unquote on the side of the road 383 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: because somebody didn't do maintenance, because proper procedure was not followed. 384 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes time just gets away from you. I had to 385 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: put a battery in the Ranger this week. I'm embarrass 386 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: to tell you, not because it died, but because it 387 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: came in for its oil change, and I was doing 388 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: my winter due diligence check up as I would do 389 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: any vehicle. You know, we treat family vehicles the same. 390 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: Probably we actually abuse them a little bit more. We 391 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: tend to push them off until it's later. But the 392 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: Ranger came in. The ninety Ranger came into the shop 393 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: this week. I did its oil change, and I didn't 394 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: even as I'm low testing the battery. I didn't even hesitate. 395 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: The battery has been in the truck since two thousand 396 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: and eight I said, wow, how'd that get away from me? 397 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: And going on at seventh winter, I said, no, no, 398 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: let's um, let's put a battery in it. And we did. 399 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: And you know, kind of brought up to mind when 400 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 1: I saw this Triple A comment. How can they do that? 401 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: Because have you seen where they're putting batteries lately? There 402 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: are batteries some of the Chrysler products. The batteries are 403 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: in the fender wells, inside the fenders. You know, I 404 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: want to call Triple A and I want to have 405 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: a battery put in my late model Cadillac where the 406 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: batteries under the back seat and I've got all these 407 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: groceries on top of it, because let's face it, the 408 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: battery is never gonna go dead when the cars empty, 409 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: and it's convenient. Um. And while it's a great service, 410 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: I don't disparage what Triple A is trying to do. 411 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: I just wonder how effectively and how legitimately they can 412 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: do that. I question that is it? Is it possible? Uh? 413 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: You know, it would be interesting to talk to them 414 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: and see what sort of training they're putting their guys through, 415 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: because they've got to be dealing with some tough obstacles 416 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: out there on the road in order to accomplish this 417 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: in beginning and some cars as early as two thousand 418 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: and eight, but is where it's really going to be 419 00:22:53,920 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: more vehicles across the board. Battery replacement requires battery registration. 420 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: Let me say that again. Beginning model year, battery replacement 421 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: on a great many vehicles will require battery registration, meaning 422 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: you've got to take a scan tool, and you know, 423 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: it's sort of like you know, Art Carney addressed the ball, 424 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: Hello ball. You've got to say hello, battery, and you've 425 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: got to tell the car that the battery is in 426 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: the car, that it's been changed, and introduce the battery 427 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: to the electrical system and the onboard computer and you 428 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: scan tool do that. And I'm sure, I'm sure Triple 429 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: A and the other roadside services out there can provide that, 430 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: and I'm sure they've accounted for that. But my point is, 431 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: if you're doing the due diligence and using quality parts, 432 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: if you're doing a battery replacement power frame grid technology, 433 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: we don't have to talk about that um any more 434 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: than we already have. We've we've always and we've pointed 435 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: out multiple times as a matter of fact, out on Facebook, 436 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: there's a conversation. There's a couple of videos on the 437 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: card or Facebook page about power Frame grid technology batteries 438 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: and how they're made better, and we encourage you to 439 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: get out there and take a look. And as a 440 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: matter of fact, um, where's my piece of paper here? Um, 441 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 1: I think it's still ongoing right now through the end 442 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: of February. You can save ten bucks with the purchase 443 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: of an Autocraft Gold or Autocraft Premium a GM battery 444 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: if you get out, if you get out to power 445 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: frame dot com, there's a there's a coup on there, 446 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: and go over to the website over Advanced in car 447 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: Quest Auto Parts. But my point is, if you're doing 448 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: due diligence on battery maintenance, in theory, the majority of 449 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: you should not need a battery for five years. That 450 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: batteries rated five years, it should go five years. And 451 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: my point is, I don't know that you want to 452 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: do a battery on the side of the road. I 453 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: don't know that you want to have that effort because 454 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: I don't know that I would count on it simply 455 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: because of the electronics and the possibility of things becoming 456 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: a problem So that being said, instead of talking about, hey, 457 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: we can put a battery in a car anywhere, I 458 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about proper maintenance and the 459 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: need for regular scheduled maintenance and what that actually saves 460 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: you and how important that is to you in terms 461 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: of being safe on the road, and in these days 462 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: day and age, being safe on the road is really 463 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: what it's all about. So just something to think about 464 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: and uh be mindful of. So let's let's do it 465 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: like that. Huh. Let's uh, let's try and stay out 466 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: of the Uh. We gotta put a battery and on 467 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: the side of the road and take everything out of 468 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: the car in order to do it. Batteries are not 469 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: straightforward under the hood of a car anymore. It's not 470 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: that simple. Zero zero, I ran a little long, Jeff 471 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: and Appleton, Wisconsin. Hang on. The car doctor is coming 472 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: back right after this and we'll talk to you about 473 00:25:40,160 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: your question. I'm Mornandi and the car doctor. Don't go away. 474 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back. Doctor zero is the phone number. Phone number, 475 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: by the way, check us out on Facebook. Run any 476 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: in the car doctor. Let's get over. He's been waiting 477 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: there very patiently. Jeff, I appreciate your patients, sir, a 478 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: little bit of maintenance. We had to do this hour. 479 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: Jeff and Appleton, Wisconsin. How can I help you, sir? 480 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: Runing any in the car? Doctor? Right? Your service? Yes, right. 481 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: What I've run into is when I take my car 482 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: in for an oil change, I have been under the 483 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: impression when they say break inspection that they're actually doing 484 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: what they're saying, a complete break inspection. What I found 485 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: is that on occasion, all they're doing is pulling off 486 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: the right front wheel or just doing a visual break inspection. 487 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: And how that came to be was I took my 488 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: car in and a week later my front break started 489 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: to grind. And it wasn't my normal dealer because I 490 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: needed to get my oil change. I had not been 491 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: doing my due diligence. I had not been doing my 492 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: normal maintenance routine, and now it was time to get 493 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: it done now because I was going to be putting 494 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: out a couple of thousand miles and didn't want my oil, 495 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: which I was running synthetic, to be over the limit. 496 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: And I can't stress enough that when they say that 497 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: they're doing a break inspection, that they're actually doing a 498 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: complete break inspection. And I don't think they are. Jeff, 499 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: And you know, here's the deal, all right again, it's 500 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: a fast food world out there. We want our auto 501 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: repairs fast. We want them now. We don't want to 502 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: have to wait. We don't want to be inconvenience. Uh. 503 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: You know, I have a friend that you know, Thursday 504 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: night we go out for our h during the non 505 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: cruising season, we get together on Thursday nights. We'll go 506 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: out to eat and we talk about cars. What else 507 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: would you talk about? And Jeff's daughter, Kitto, works at 508 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: a local big dealership here in the area, a Honda dealer, 509 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: and the conversation is about how she will get written 510 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: up on customer satisfaction surveys. She's done her job, everything 511 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: is perfect, but the customer coming in is annoyed that 512 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: the television channel isn't set to something they wanted to watch. 513 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: She loses points, she doesn't get on her survey, and 514 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: she loses money. Everything's tied to dollars in a lot 515 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: of order to repair situations. And my point is that 516 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: when they're saying they're doing a break inspection on those 517 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: quick oil changes, regardless of where they are, you know 518 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: there are quick service loubes and Honda dealers. There are 519 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: quick service Loubes and Toyota dealers. There's quick service loubes 520 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: out there, you know, Jiffy Loubes and so forth. They're 521 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: looking for money, they're not looking for breaks and and 522 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: and that's part of the problem. We want everything quick. 523 00:28:54,920 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: This mechanics opinion, breaks on every vehicle should be inspected 524 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: once a year. I don't care if it's got five 525 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it. I don't care if it's got 526 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: fifty thousand miles on I don't care if it's got 527 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: twer and thousand miles on it. Once a year. And 528 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 1: it's pretty simple to do if you're if you're doing 529 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: due diligence and performing proper maintenance every six to eight 530 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: thousand miles, hopefully you're rotating tires. Combine that annual break 531 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: inspection with that tire rotation and a proper break inspection, 532 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: and I think this is what you're getting to when 533 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,239 Speaker 1: you can tell me to shut up if it's not. 534 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: But I think what you're getting to is breakes have 535 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: to be looked at and measured and and the industry 536 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: has a standard. There's actually a series of gauges that 537 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: a good repair shop will have. So it's not just 538 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: something by eyesight where they say, yeah, it's thick enough. 539 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: How thick is thick enough? There's a series of gauges 540 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 1: that starts at ten millimeters thick and their color coded 541 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: green meaning good, working their way down to yellow in 542 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: the four to six millimeter range, where working their way 543 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: down to read in the two and three millimeter range. 544 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: When brake pads are two millimeters thick, it's time. When 545 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: brake pads are eight millimeters thick, they're good, and and 546 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: and and that's a proper break inspection. But you're right. 547 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: What I've noticed is because we're into hey, I want 548 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: it fast, I want it now, we're teaching people that, yeah, 549 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: we look at the right front. Why that's the only 550 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: wheel that's that's making the brakes work. And you know 551 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a four wheel brake system on every 552 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: car I've ever seen. And if it's got four wheels, 553 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna have four breaks. All four should be looked at. 554 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: Did you question it at the facility when you when 555 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: they did the break inspection? What was their answer? Okay, 556 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: there were there were a couple of actual um oil 557 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: changes because I owned several vehicles. I called them back 558 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: up on the last one because it was one week 559 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: from when I had taken the vehicle in, and they said, 560 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: we don't do break inspection. So I went back and 561 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: I looked at the particular sheet and sure enough, nowhere 562 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: on there did it say break inspection at all. Okay, 563 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: So this was I want to say quick, but not quick. 564 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: It was. It was a sixty synthetics oil change, and 565 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: I got a print out of what they found, and 566 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: they actually found nothing other than it was about a 567 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: half a quart low when I brought it in. And 568 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: I was amazed because in the past, at this particular 569 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: big box store, they always did a break inspection or 570 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: whether it was visual or not. Okay, what what prompted 571 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: the call was a couple of weeks ago, you had 572 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: another caller had called in about breaks, and I was 573 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: referring to when I had taken a different vehicle in 574 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: that it also needed breaks. And when I went back 575 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: to question him, he said, well, all we do is 576 00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: either visually look at the front calip or we look 577 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: at the right front tire. And that's when I I 578 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: was just shocked that when I see the word brak 579 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: inspection I'm thinking in the old days, they pull the 580 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: wheels off well and you know what, and to do 581 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: it properly. That is how it's supposed to be done. 582 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: But you know it's it's we're we're living in a 583 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: day and age where so many people either don't understand 584 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: order repair and proper maintenance or they claim that they do, 585 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: which I think they're even more dangerous, and just looking 586 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: at the right front wheel or the left rear somehow 587 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: satisfies them. And it really, like I said, comes back 588 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: to once a year. All the brakes, all the wheels 589 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: should be pulled, brakes should be inspected, even if it's 590 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: a four wheel disccar. Can do the calipers move? Do 591 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: they rock? Are the slides free? Are there any signs 592 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: of rust on the pads where they're resting in the 593 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: brackets showing that they're starting to season bind? But annual 594 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: maintenance has really become a thing of the past where 595 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: people are putting it off more and more and just 596 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: driving that car until it actually has a problem and 597 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: then maybe they decided to replace the car. Ryan, you 598 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head. It needs to be 599 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: annual maintenance on those brakes and if people aren't doing it. 600 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they need to pay attention. And this couldn't 601 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: be more appropriate for today's show. So thank you. You're 602 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: very welcome. Jeff, thank you very much, and uh you 603 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: have a great, great new year out there in Appleton, Wisconsin. 604 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: We appreciate you being a listener amongst so many. I'm 605 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: running any in the Car Doctor. I'm back right after this. 606 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back on any of the Car Doctor here at 607 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zeros. 608 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: We kind of wind things down this hour. Keep in 609 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: mind that is the Car Doctor seven number eight five 610 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: five zero zero zero. Leave a message if we're not 611 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: on the air, and fast Terror executive producer will call 612 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: you back and put you in the lineup for the 613 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: following week. By the way, I want to point out 614 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: for Jeff and Appleton and I didn't I didn't mention 615 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: it when he was on air for any of the 616 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: other listeners. If you get out to my website, are 617 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: a auto dot com six letters are a auto dot Com. 618 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: Scroll over to the services tab. There's a checklist there 619 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: that we use in the shop and it's just a 620 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: real simple it's an informational thing. Feel free to copy it. 621 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: Do whatever you want with it, but it's just some 622 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: suggested maintenance to do at various intervals and in terms 623 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: of you know, annual break inspection, maintenance, how often to 624 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: do things like that, and what to do with certain mileage. 625 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: And it's a little all to have an updated and 626 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: open GS forever. But it's still applicable, and I was 627 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: looking at it recently and I've got some changes I 628 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: want to make, but the majority of it, I would 629 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: say it is still spot on and feel free to 630 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: use that as a guideline for what to do to 631 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: your car and when real quick piece of email. Ron 632 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: my ninety eight Ranger four oh automatic trans hundred fifty 633 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: six thousand miles has developed a rough idol at cold 634 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: startup after sitting overnight. It idols rough for few between 635 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: the twenty two and then one's fine. It's got new 636 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: air and fuel filters. I drive this truck back and 637 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: forth to work hundred fifty miles a week, mostly on interstate. 638 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: No hesitation, misfire, stalling or check engine lights. I'm thinking 639 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: if I don't address the issue now, it will eventually 640 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: get worse, especially in the fall and winter. As I 641 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: live in the northern part of Virginia. I've done some 642 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: research online and people are talking about dirty or bad 643 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: massterilflow sensors or the same with idal air control that 644 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: appreciate your thoughts on what could be the problem, Jim, Um, Yeah, 645 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: there's a lot to talk about here, Jim. One of 646 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: the things to keep in mind is simple stuff with 647 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: a scan tool. When you go to start it up cold, 648 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: before you turn the engine to crank, just turn the 649 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: key on. Using a scan tool, look at intake air 650 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: temp and look at coolant temp. If the vehicle has 651 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: been sitting for an eight hour eight hours soaked, both 652 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: of those should match. They should be If not the same, 653 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: they should be within ten degrees of each other. Anything 654 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: more than that, we're gonna start to question the validity 655 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: of those sensors. Could they be out of skew. Second, 656 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: if you want pull one spark plug before you go started, 657 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: is that plug fuel failed? Could we possibly have fuel 658 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: dripping out of the injectors causing it to run rough 659 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: like it is? Second? Or Third? Is it consuming any oil? 660 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: Could we have an oil consumption issue? Could we have 661 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: oil dripping down pasts, stems and seals out of the 662 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: valves and causing that particular problem. So before we just 663 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: jump on what the internet says, let's do a little 664 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: diagnosis and we can kind of take it from there. 665 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm runing any in the car doctor, reminding you the 666 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you,