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Speaker 1: This the one Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: Day six of training camp now a memory. It happened

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Speaker 2: this morning, it is now over. We'll review it in

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Speaker 2: great detail with you through the course of the show today,

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Speaker 2: and we've got a good one for you. We'll be

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Speaker 2: hearing from Dion Dawkins a little bit later on in

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Speaker 2: the show, and here on set we will have Bill's

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Speaker 2: general manager, Brandon Bean in our number two of the program,

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Speaker 2: going off, going off on any of the details concerning

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Speaker 2: the roster and what he's seen through the first six

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Speaker 2: days of practice. Steve the headline today the Von Miller

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Speaker 2: burst his back. Oh yeah, we saw it. They ran

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Speaker 2: an extensive third down period in eleven on eleven today

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Speaker 2: and Vaughn, who had the day off yesterday Veterans Rest Day,

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Speaker 2: looked like he was getting shot out of a cannon.

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Speaker 2: Today beat Spencer Brown on one for a sack. The

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Speaker 2: very next play comes back wins on a stunt as

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Speaker 2: well inside And I gotta say, for all those Bills

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Speaker 2: fans that were wondering, is Von back to the old Vaughn?

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Speaker 2: Today was a very very encouraging side.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's got it under the hood. Can he stay

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Speaker 3: healthy enough. Can he stay fresh enough throughout an eighteen

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Speaker 3: game schedule, eighteen week schedule, seventeen games to be there

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Speaker 3: at the end when they need him. We'll see. But

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Speaker 3: man o'man it says we suspected he's got it there,

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Speaker 3: and he showed it today and we'll see, if you know,

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Speaker 3: if they can get him through a regular season when

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Speaker 3: he can contribute when they need him too.

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Speaker 2: And here we go. So I think when we've talked

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Speaker 2: about this through the course of the offseason, knowing he

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Speaker 2: is an age thirty five player, the best way to

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Speaker 2: get the most out of him is to pace him

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Speaker 2: through the season. And I fully expect them to make

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Speaker 2: him a pass rush specialist. I mean, perfect example is

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Speaker 2: what we saw the last two days in practice. He's

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Speaker 2: off yesterday. Today they have a pass rush third down

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Speaker 2: period and he's out there for a lot of reps

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Speaker 2: and looked really good doing it. And here's probably the

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Speaker 2: most encouraging thing. He's not the only one today. The

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Speaker 2: combo of Kingsley, Jonathan and Javon Solomon was given the

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Speaker 2: second and third units fits today, absolute fits. They were

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Speaker 2: all over the offensive backfield, quarterbacks having to throw away passes,

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks getting tap out sacks, quarterbacks getting passes batted out

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Speaker 2: of the air. Passing game was a mix of fits

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Speaker 2: and starts because those two guys were screaming off the edges.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they looked really good. They looked like starters going

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Speaker 3: against the number twos. I mean they really did. They

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Speaker 3: looked really really good, and they were coming off with

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Speaker 3: fat explosion. And I remember too, you go through days

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Speaker 3: like this and the offense is over there kind of

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Speaker 3: getting frustrated because they can't get anything done because they

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Speaker 3: can't even get the ball out of the quarterback's hands

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Speaker 3: before he's on the ground. So now they don't tackle

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Speaker 3: him to the ground obviously and stuff, but you know,

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Speaker 3: the play's blown up before you can actually develop in

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Speaker 3: the backfield, and you're out there running routes, you turn

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Speaker 3: around and the play's already over. It was that kind

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Speaker 3: of day for this defense. The pass rush really stood up,

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Speaker 3: and Vaughn was the start of it. But those other

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Speaker 3: two guys you mentioned, Kingsley Jonathan and Javon holland Javon Solomon,

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Speaker 3: goodness gracious, they had a really nice day. Yeah. It

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Speaker 3: took what a week and a couple of days of

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Speaker 3: and it was good to see. I thought the defensive

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Speaker 3: it was really good to see today. Having said that,

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Speaker 3: made some throws today. I was looking around and go,

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Speaker 3: I was looking for Bille. Do you see that, you know?

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Speaker 3: I mean he made a couple.

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Speaker 3: he did it a couple of times, handful of times today.

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, so and he makes them look routine.

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Speaker 2: That's the scary thing.

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Speaker 3: It does not look like he's like exerting himself. It

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Speaker 3: You saw some things that were really encouraging, like the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, players with pass breakups today, Taylor Rapp, Cole Bishop,

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Speaker 2: mention there was a roster transaction today. Veteran NFL safety

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Speaker 2: Kareem Jackson signed by the Bills and he was out

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Speaker 2: there wearing jersey number twenty seven. Did not partake in

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Speaker 2: Brandon Bean about when we can expect to see him

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Speaker 2: more urgent now he gets here for day one. You're

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Speaker 2: already down Mike Edwards, who's got a week to week

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Speaker 2: hamstring injury and laid in practice today. Cole Bishop leaves

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Speaker 2: the field. They were checking his ribs on his back

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Speaker 2: of discomfort. And we see this sometimes, Steve, you have

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Speaker 3: And that's that's part of the you know, unpredictable nature

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Speaker 3: exact same thing. We could go he says, I'm telling

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Speaker 3: And you can say it's systemic. If you can get

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Speaker 3: I don't think cole Bishops is probably really serious, well

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Speaker 3: But the hamstring. But nevertheless, plus two.

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Speaker 2: Well, you take a helmet in your back, I mean

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Speaker 3: Absolutely it hurts. No, I'm not saying the kid's not hurting.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's probably not time consuming. And also

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Speaker 2: So I just I felt like he was just getting

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I'll say this too, Taylor wrapped has even

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Speaker 3: since pads went on yesterday and today, he is not

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Speaker 3: He is definitely jumping in with both feet into the

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Speaker 2: The other thing we noticed with respect to the passing

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Speaker 2: A lot of seam shots, you know, deepot, all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: They're working the middle of the field between the numbers

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Speaker 2: as though the passing game catered to the middle of

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Speaker 3: Think they were. I think a little bit of that

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Speaker 3: going through. Yeah, with pass rush, third down, third down,

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Speaker 2: The other thing concerning the receiving corps, Tyrrel Shavers continues

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Speaker 2: to get rotated in with the first unit. He's getting

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Speaker 2: identify who is receiver five and who is receiver six,

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Speaker 2: we're seeing some of these guys a little bit further

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Speaker 2: down in the pecking order getting some opportunities with the

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Speaker 3: That's the real question. I mean, Keon's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't look like mc collins is going anywhere. Certainly

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Speaker 3: So those are the top four and you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: six guys probably seven available, whether they you know, practice

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Speaker 3: six spots on game day. And who those other two

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Speaker 3: how they cover punts, return punts, how they are on

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Speaker 3: the front line of the punt return punt, yeah, return team,

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Speaker 3: I have no idea how they're shaking that out, except for,

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Speaker 3: like you said, you got to kind of keep your

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Speaker 3: eye on who's taking reps. Shavers is getting some repsent.

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Speaker 2: That's getting more than any of the others, and he

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Speaker 3: I've saw him. I've seen him catch some ball in

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Speaker 3: some situational yep spots this.

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Speaker 2: In the two minutes real got out of bounds.

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Speaker 3: Right, So uh, he's getting his shot at being out there.

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Speaker 3: And I like the way he looks when he runs.

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Speaker 3: Shorter and Shavers, I mean, they're very similar, as is mvs.

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Speaker 3: Marquez because Vallas Scantling. They are all very similar in

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Speaker 3: their body type and the way they look, but there

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Speaker 3: are subtle differences. When you see him walk around when

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Speaker 3: they move through their routes, and I and I get

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Speaker 3: that Shavers is just seems to me a little bit

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Speaker 2: Little looser athlete. I would say, then, yes, Valdes scantling.

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Speaker 3: And he's not. He doesn't appear to be his high cut,

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Speaker 3: although he looks like when you stand him sitting there

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Speaker 3: next to each other, they looked at it. But he

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Speaker 3: doesn't run high cut, I guess, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: But lots going on out there, and these you know,

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Speaker 3: all these guys vying for these two spots, and it's, uh,

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Speaker 3: what the coaches think about what they're seeing, not what

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Speaker 3: you and I are talking about.

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Speaker 2: As we mentioned, there were the first set of two

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Speaker 2: minutes real periods in practice thus far in training camp.

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Speaker 2: First unit comes out, they're only able to stage a

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Speaker 2: field goal drive. They get stopped at the end. It

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Speaker 2: was Taylor rap with a pass breakup in the end

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Speaker 2: zone on third down. That was two plays after day

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Speaker 2: Kwon Hardy had a pass breakup in the end zone

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Speaker 2: on a pass intended for Dalton kin Cade. So they're

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Speaker 3: and washing them through there very fast, very fast, because

432
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Speaker 3: he felt like he knew what he was doing and

433
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: he knew what he was looking at. And but to

434
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Speaker 3: say that and then have him look at Josh and

435
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 3: not see it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And and what makes it so stupefying to me

437
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Speaker 2: is John Alway. John Elway was that guy.

438
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Speaker 3: He was the exact guy.

439
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: He was that guy with the.

440
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 3: Rocket arm, rocket arm and could run baseball, pitcher multiple sports.

441
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 3: Elway might have had a better stronger arm than Josh.

442
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Speaker 2: He didn't. He was himself.

443
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Speaker 3: It was a monster. He was a monster. Now, Josh

444
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 3: is a much better runner than Elway was, Yes.

445
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Speaker 2: But for his time, Elway was probably the best runner

446
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Speaker 2: of that entire.

447
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 3: Class, unless yeah, for that class is better than better

448
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: than the only guy in his league in that era

449
00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 3: was probably Steve Young Randall was but rand later Randall

450
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 3: couldn't throw it like that noose guys. So and that's

451
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: the whole thing. Josh can throw it, and he can

452
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: out he can run better than anybody in the league too,

453
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Speaker 3: So his I mean, I get it, it's hard to see.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how he didn't see himself, that's what

455
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: That's what stupefies me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm totally with you.

457
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Speaker 2: Like, if you have that skill set, wouldn't you recognize

458
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 2: that skill setting somebody else? Not to mention he was

459
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Speaker 2: out at Wyoming. I mean, he's right in your backyards.

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Speaker 3: Right, And I'll say this too though, John went to

461
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Speaker 3: Stanford and that's it's a higher level and all that,

462
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Speaker 3: so that's a little different. And Josh went to Wyoming.

463
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Speaker 3: But Josh just I mean, Josh was like a fifteen

464
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Speaker 3: year old kid playing with a bunch of twelve year

465
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Speaker 3: olds at Wyoming. I mean that's how big and strong

466
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Speaker 3: he was. Yeah, and their offense at Wyoming was having

467
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Speaker 3: Josh do some things and nobody else in the country

468
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: could ask their quarterback to do. I mean, his outlet

469
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 3: pass was a pass outside the numbers off the far

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Speaker 3: hash on the college field, so he's like a thirty

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Speaker 3: five yard laser. He had to use as an outlet

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Speaker 3: pass right. So they were asking a lot of him

473
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Speaker 3: and people just didn't see it. And l Wave. I

474
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 3: wonder how when l Way what at the moment when

475
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 3: elw was like, how did I miss on that? Wow?

476
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Speaker 3: We missed that. I'll bet it was when Josh filled

477
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: with regret, when Josh went out there and with fans

478
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 3: when Curbs stomped him and just won the division that

479
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: since the division that weekend and beat him for a

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Speaker 3: forty two to nineteen or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I think it was worse than that. It was like

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Speaker 2: forty eight nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Oh my godness, nuts crushed him.

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Speaker 2: A topic of discussion for you today concerns. Our guest

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Speaker 2: On said, who will you will see in the second

486
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Speaker 2: hour of the show, General Manager Brandon Bean. Topic of

487
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Speaker 2: discussion what has been the best off season? Addition by

488
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Speaker 2: Bill's GM Brandon Bean, there looked to be a host

489
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Speaker 2: of decent choices and light how the first six days

490
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Speaker 2: of training camp have gone. So you let us know

491
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Speaker 2: who that is for you eight O three oh five

492
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Speaker 2: won eight eight eight, five fifty two, five fifty Those

493
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Speaker 2: are the numbers to get on board Best Off Season

494
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Speaker 2: Edition by Bill's GM. Brandon Bean to this roster. Naturally,

495
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: the draft choice has come to mind, particularly Coleman. But

496
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Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be some love Steve for Curtis Samuel.

497
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you another guy who's kind of flown under

498
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 2: the radar as a nice ad Dewan Smoot. This guy's

499
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Speaker 2: gonna have a role in this rotation based if the

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Speaker 2: first week of training camp is any indication. He is

501
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: a problem in terms of moving him off the edge

502
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: in the run front. You can't move that guy. Yeah,

503
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Speaker 2: he's like the he's like the line opposite of Osiris

504
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: Torrance defensive lineman. Can't move Osiris because he just anchors

505
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: into the ground and he'll just keep you there. It's

506
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: the same thing with Smoot on the other side of

507
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 2: the ball. They can't dig him out of there. So

508
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: that guy's gonna have a roll for sure.

509
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had you know this practice we've been watching

510
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 3: and you make you're making fun of me for complaining today.

511
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: That it was too hot. It was too hot to

512
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 2: get a little whining bird out there.

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Speaker 3: Well, actually, Alec Anderson, the offensive lineman. The Bills took

514
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 3: him by an ambulance after practice this morning to the

515
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: hospital for heat related issues. So it's not just me,

516
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 3: uh and it's and of course Cole Bishop also injured

517
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: as well, but Alec Anderson had to be I mean

518
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 3: these guys. I was walking out there walking and we

519
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: were actually had the chance. I was walking up down

520
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: the sidelines, you know, watching guys, and you can get

521
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 3: an idea of the chemistry between these guys. Some of

522
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 3: these guys it looks like they got dunked in a pool.

523
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, like they'll lose six eight pounds of water weight.

524
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. How wet with perspiration there. I know everybody

525
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: sweats and you've seen sweaty guys. No, these guys look

526
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: literally like you dumped a bucket.

527
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: Of water can ring their shirt out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unbelievable. So yeah, Alec Anderson's.

529
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: Probably getting treated for g hydration.

530
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: Absolutely, So I hope he's all right and come back,

531
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Speaker 3: come back. He'll probably take a day tomorrow, they'll give him.

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Speaker 4: YEA.

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Speaker 2: Our good friend field Yates just reported Steve that Bill's

534
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Speaker 2: head coach, Matt eberflu says the starters for the Chicago

535
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Speaker 2: Bears will not play in Thursday's Hall of Fame game.

536
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 2: So that means that Caleb Williams and Romadunze, the number

537
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: one and nine picks in the draft, may make their

538
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Speaker 2: NFL debut against the Bills on August tenth, in Buffalo's

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00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: preseason opener at high Mark Stadium. How about that, Caleb

540
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: Williams NFL debut will be in Buffalo. That's what Matt

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Speaker 2: Eberflu says is accurate.

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00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: Well, there you go. How about that. Fine, that's kind

543
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: of cool. That's fine, that's awesome.

544
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: And they'll be sending Kingsley, Jonathan and Javon Sullivan after

545
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: him the entire game.

546
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the preseason game at a little under the radar

547
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 3: still because they're ways off at the Blue and Red

548
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: game coming up.

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Speaker 2: This rimmage is going to.

550
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Speaker 3: Be a lot of fun. It'll be Saturday, Friday, third Friday,

551
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 3: five thirty. Yeah, that'll be Yeah, that'll be a lot

552
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: of fun, a lot of fun. So it's yeah, I'm

553
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: not thinking about the preseason yet. We got a long way.

554
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: It feels like it's a month away.

555
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: It's more like ten days.

556
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: I know, it feels a month because these these days

557
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: dragged so slow in training camp. My gosh, I hate this.

558
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: I hate this man. You just sit out here and

559
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 3: baking this hot sun.

560
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did kind of enjoy how you were comparing

561
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: yourself to Alec Anderson who's got pads and a helmet

562
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: on and working football pants and yeah, taking snaps and

563
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: having three hundred pound men leaning on it hurts And

564
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: you're li likening your situation on the sideline.

565
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 3: It's his compared to him. It really hurts me when

566
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: I have to take a knee forget about going out

567
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Speaker 3: there and taking on taking on Ed Oliver coming up.

568
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what has been the best off season edition by

569
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: Bill's Jim Brandon? Bean, You let us know at eight

570
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: oh three, oh five fifty one eight eight eight five

571
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty those in the numbers to get

572
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: on board. We got to take a break here, but

573
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Speaker 2: when we come back, we'll take your phone calls. We'll

574
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: also hear from Bill's left tackle Dion Dawkins, who addressed

575
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: the media after practice, had some interesting things to say

576
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: about von Miller and how he's looking out here on

577
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Speaker 2: the practice field. We'll get to that when we return

578
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Speaker 2: here On One Bill's Live, presented by co Lot of Health.

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Speaker 5: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

581
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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker. We're here at Saint John Fisher for Bill's

582
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Speaker 2: training camp and addressing the media after today's day six practice.

583
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Speaker 2: Was Bill's left tackle Dion Dawkins looks as good as

584
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: ever and I don't know if he's lost their rep

585
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: as if yet, But let's go to Dion for his

586
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: thoughts on his camp thus far and what does he

587
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: think of von Miller's camp too long?

588
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: Today?

589
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 6: During the series?

590
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Speaker 3: How did that go?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a you know, it was a tough

592
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 7: day of practice. It was a tough day of practice,

593
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 7: but a good day of practice. You know, it's a

594
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 7: passing league, and you know, like that's where a lot

595
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 7: of us shine and we have to be able to

596
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 7: protect Josh. The guys have to be able to show

597
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 7: what they can do when it's time to do it.

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00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 7: We have a lot of new faces and they've been

599
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 7: showing up, you know, like our young guys are great,

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00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 7: our older guys are great. And Josh looks better than

601
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 7: he ever did. So happy to be here and protect

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00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 7: for that kid.

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Speaker 2: Andrew.

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Speaker 6: You guys went after it to Offense won the first

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Speaker 6: series and twos came.

606
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 8: Up and then defense one.

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Speaker 6: What is it like to get that type of competition

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Speaker 6: right at the.

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Speaker 2: End of practice.

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Speaker 4: It's tough.

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Speaker 7: Coach knows what he's doing. Two minutes to end a practice,

612
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 7: it's tough. But I would rather do it in practice

613
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 7: so when we go into games it's easy.

614
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Speaker 4: But he picked the right day for it. Coach definitely

615
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 4: picked the right day for it.

616
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 7: But uh, the two minute drill in any situation, whether

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Speaker 7: it's practice, whether it's in a game, whether it's in

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00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 7: a scrimmage, whether it's in a walkthrough, it's always the

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Speaker 7: toughest because you know, a two minute drill, it could

620
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 7: be the end of the half, it could be the

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Speaker 7: end of a game.

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Speaker 4: Usually we're practicing for it to.

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Speaker 7: Be the end of a game, and you have to

624
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 7: be at your best and that's where your your your

625
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 7: players will show up. And you know, I'm just honored

626
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 7: to be a part of a great and group of guys,

627
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 7: mad because I've been here for a little bit and

628
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 7: every year there's new faces and we get to see

629
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Speaker 7: who's who's coming along, who wants it, who wants to

630
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 7: go up and get the ball?

631
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 4: Who wants the ball?

632
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Speaker 7: Who's gonna outrun, who's gonna push and finish just that

633
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 7: much more when you're tired, when you're dead tired, when

634
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 7: it's feel like one hundred degrees. You know, Buffalo don't

635
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 7: really get this hot, right, Rochester don't really get this hot.

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00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 4: So it's like, all right, who who want it? And

637
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: go get it?

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00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 7: So, uh, the guy's definitely showed up and showed out

639
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 7: and we have a good team.

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00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 4: The defense did it and offense did it. Is like

641
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: as well, a younger guy kind of seen.

642
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: Growth.

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Speaker 7: He's he's grown a lot. He's grown a lot.

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00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: Man.

645
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 4: H jen like he's he's becoming his own person.

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Speaker 7: And you know, watching a young guy come in and

647
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 7: you know, not really play yet, but work hard and

648
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 7: not really get his chance yet. And now he's getting

649
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 7: his chance and he's taken full advantage of it. And

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Speaker 7: I'm happy to see him take full advantage of it.

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00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,239
Speaker 7: You know, he has a family, his people is around here,

652
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 7: and he's showing out and he's performing.

653
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 4: And he's up early and he's here late, and I

654
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 4: respect it.

655
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 7: I respect somebody who's hungry and sees the opportunity, and

656
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 7: it's going forward because the best man wins and picking

657
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 7: up and love English phrases.

658
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 4: Said again, what do you make up?

659
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: Travis Clayton might thin be picking up.

660
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: To English phrases.

661
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: Hell, so hello, I got you. What do you make

662
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 4: of this guy?

663
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: Though, you know, putting chats off for the first time

664
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: at the end, you know, being out here said and

665
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: we're very little football play.

666
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a there.

667
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 7: Well, the other day I practice, we had two guys

668
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 7: that didn't know how to put their pads in their pads,

669
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 7: so one on offense, one on the defense. So it

670
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 7: was pretty cool, pretty shocking to see. But you know,

671
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 7: this league is special and we have special players. Like

672
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 7: I'm proud that he's made it to where we are

673
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 7: because you know, like as kids like, we work our

674
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 7: entire lives to get to the NFL and for somebody

675
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 7: who did it across the pond and made it here,

676
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 7: you know, I took my hat to him. But he's

677
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 7: he's one of my guys. Like, he's a big boy,

678
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 7: so I protect him at all costs.

679
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: Shavers. From our perspective, he seems to be on an

680
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: upward trajectory. Yeah, as a player.

681
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 4: How can you tell when a player is on that.

682
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 7: Introductory the same way how you see it right, Like

683
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 7: y'all are watching.

684
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: You know, like he's he's, he's out there, he's he's he's.

685
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 7: Catching balls, and like not to look at it for

686
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 7: what it's not. Just look at it for and what

687
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 7: it is like when you guys are watching in practice,

688
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 7: like you guys are seeing energy. You guys are feeling

689
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 7: like energy. You guys are seeing the swagger about a

690
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 7: certain player. You're you're and you're seeing how guys are

691
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 7: walking around just like with that extra mounts or that

692
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 7: extra mounts that's a that's a real thing. So you

693
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 7: guys are seeing that extra mounts and as a teammate,

694
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 7: we see that extra bounce and he's, uh, he's shooting

695
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 7: up man, So proud of him.

696
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he's practice, it's it's offense verus defense. But

697
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: Tiers one of the guys you're.

698
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 3: Close to out the team, and it feels like he's

699
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: really opened up to us in the last several months

700
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 3: about you know, what he's gone through to get to

701
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: this band, But how have you seen the growth for

702
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: them and how he's performed to the camps up.

703
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it starts with uh.

704
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 7: With just eliminating all the outside noise and even eliminating

705
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 7: some of the inside noise.

706
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 4: And he's done a great job.

707
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 7: You know, Kayer has a good support team, and his

708
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 7: support team is keeping him on track where he could

709
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 7: just play free, you know. And I'm happy that five

710
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 7: is doing what he does now and he could show

711
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 7: us why he's he's a first round pick, which he's

712
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 7: always has. Like when he gets in the game, Kyer

713
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 7: does what he does and he's in practice and he's

714
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 7: showing it. And I'm just happy that Kayer is is

715
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 7: feeling more like yourself, feeling more and like yourself.

716
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 4: Because like this league, like it can eat you up

717
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: and spit you out very very quick.

718
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 7: And for a kid to not let it eat him up,

719
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 7: and for him to just keep chucking away at it,

720
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 7: keep chucking away, keep chucking away. Wins and losses, wins

721
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 7: and losses, you know, mental wins, mental losses, and now

722
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 7: his mental is all wins, so now you'll see the

723
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 7: results of the mental wins on the field as well. Yeah, obviously,

724
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 7: you know, men in a community, Rochester's experience of national

725
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 7: news like gards to some of their violence that have

726
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 7: no for.

727
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 4: Week game that's in the park, right, Yeah, what's some

728
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 4: words of encouragement for the community?

729
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 7: Man? You know, I'm not too familiar with Rochester's community,

730
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 7: so I can't just jump in it. But I honestly,

731
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 7: there's a time and a place for everything. And even

732
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 7: though that there should never be a time and a

733
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 7: place for the bad stuff, but when you live that

734
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 7: bad life, there's.

735
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 4: A time and a place for everything.

736
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 7: But I like, I think that people really need to

737
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 7: pick and choose when there's a time in a place

738
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 7: because you know, like I have children. You know, like

739
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 7: when people are doing things around environments where where children

740
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 7: are are just at play, it don't sit well. And

741
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 7: you know, I just think that the the people that

742
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 7: are causing whatever they're causing, like they just need to

743
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 7: just just take a second thought. Man, Just take a

744
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 7: second thought, because second thought could definitely save a life.

745
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: How a nerving wasn't to see Alec going, you know

746
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: just he loaded the day?

747
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a you know, it's It's the crazy thing

748
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 7: is it's not as nerve wrecking as you would think

749
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 7: because our staff that we have here is top tier.

750
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 7: And if they weren't top tier, then I would be

751
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 7: a nervous wreck.

752
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 4: But because we've.

753
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 7: Gone through some traumatic, traumatic incidences with this team and

754
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 7: with things that have happened, I'm confident. You know, I'm

755
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 7: thinking that it's just he related and you know, like

756
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 7: he'll go to the hospital. He's probably on his way

757
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 7: there with ivy bags in him, and he's probably on

758
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 7: his on his upbring anyway, because you know, like Alec,

759
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 7: Alec is a tough dude.

760
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: So regardless of what it is, Alex's fighting and he'll

761
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 4: be all right. And I'm hoping that he will trick

762
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 4: Brady earlier was rep and singing how he has conversations

763
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 4: with you, kind of reminding every day, every day, every day,

764
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: reminding you of the elite that have all. Okay, so

765
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: I wanted to get your on the receiving end of Joe. Yeah,

766
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 4: it's a it's a.

767
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 7: You know, like there's a point where you could be cocky,

768
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 7: there's a point when you could realize who you are,

769
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 7: and there's a point of you know, understanding your presence, right,

770
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 7: and I think the presence that I have and I've

771
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 7: been saying it's over and over, it's time like like

772
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 7: it's like it's just time, right like pro bols. I'm thankful,

773
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 7: you know, top one hundred. I salute it right like

774
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 7: whatever it is. But all Pro I need to be

775
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 7: an All Pro tackle for Josh Allen and nobody else.

776
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 7: I need to be an All protional for Josh Allen.

777
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 7: Then I need to be an All Pro snow tackle

778
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 7: for Dion Dawkins and then for the rest of my

779
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 7: team every year that I'm not that, And it's just

780
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 7: this is a personal thing. I feel like I'm letting

781
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 7: Josh down, even though I still do a great job.

782
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 7: But there's levels to it. And you know, I have

783
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 7: a certain walk about and myself, I have a certain aura,

784
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 7: and I have a very positive and confident aura.

785
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: And for me to be truly who I am, I

786
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 4: need to cross that threshold.

787
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 7: And I appreciate that Joe or coach Joe is reminding

788
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 7: me of that every day, because when you are a

789
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 7: leader on the football team.

790
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 4: It's good to hear another leader speak to another leader.

791
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 7: And I tip my hat to Brady out of respect

792
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 7: that he reminds me that every day and I appreciate it,

793
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 7: and that just shows that he understands his his players.

794
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 7: And he understands who is left tackle is and uh,

795
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 7: I'm a fight, like I'm a fight until I get it,

796
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 7: and I'm gonna keep fighting and when I do, and

797
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 7: it's gonna domino effects.

798
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 4: So I appreciate Joe, but yeah, Joe.

799
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 7: Read and reminds me that before every walk through, every meeting,

800
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 7: before every.

801
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: Practice, it's like it's like he just comes and just

802
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 4: taps that bell. All pros, No right, all prosonal so

803
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:08,959
Speaker 4: all pro.

804
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 7: Snow, I'm fighting for it, for our team and for

805
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 7: our community, you know.

806
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: All right. That's Dion Dawkins addressing the media after practice.

807
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: You heard him comment on von Miller as well. He

808
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: said that von Miller aura is back. That's pretty telling

809
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: coming from a if you get if you want an

810
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: educated opinion, you ask a left tackle.

811
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

812
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah they So if he's saying he's looking at he's

813
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: not blowing smoke.

814
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: Right, we saw it and we've been we've been talking

815
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 3: about it. Yeah, he's he is. He looked great today

816
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: and we'll see how long it can last and how

817
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: he can keep it going. Can he stay healthy and

818
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: can he stay fresh throughout an eighteen week season? But

819
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 3: that's going to be crucial if he comes, you know,

820
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 3: if he plays like practice today, I mean, we're gold, right,

821
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: So we'll just wait and.

822
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: See break time for us here. When we come back,

823
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: we'll get to your phone calls. Jay and Lancaster will

824
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: lead us off as we're asking you what was Brandon

825
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: Bean's best off season edition? You let us know at

826
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: eight oh three oh five fifty your phone calls next

827
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 2: year on one Bill's Live. Stay with us, all right.

828
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: I want to give a shout out to our friends

829
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: at Wegmans for providing us with lunch here at Saint

830
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: John Fisher during training camp. Got some sandwiches delivered today,

831
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: all of which were on croissants. Steve I happy, San

832
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: Danielle projuto croissant. It was very good. One that was

833
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it was on whole grain. That was the

834
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: spicy turkey abiwich sandwich.

835
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 3: Sandwiches are always better when somebody else.

836
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: Makes You had the Kobe beef.

837
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: Cuissoh my gosh, dude, it was so good.

838
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: And Jay had the tarragon chicken salad cuissant. Did you

839
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: taste the taragon in there? Jay? He tasted it all? Okay?

840
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

841
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: Wegman's meals to go. Delicious variety of sandwiches are a

842
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: perfect pickup option for a quick lunch on the go,

843
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: And we were very much on the go because we

844
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: were a little tight on time before the show, and

845
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: Steve and I horked those down like nobody's businesses, so

846
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: we are wont to do. Wegman's the official tailgate headquarters

847
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. Got to get to the phones

848
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: at eight oh three, oh five fifty one, eight eight

849
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty those are the numbers to

850
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: get on board. As we're asking you what was Brandon

851
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: Bean's best off season? Addition to this roster. Leading us

852
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 2: off today is Jay in Lancaster. What do you got

853
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: for us?

854
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 4: Jay?

855
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 2: You're on one Bill's life.

856
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 9: How you doing, guys?

857
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 8: I'm sorry to see I can't eat where you're eating,

858
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 8: but that sounds good.

859
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 9: That's a tough job.

860
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 8: But I think some of the things that he's done, Sean,

861
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 8: Sean mcdermoin and Jim and being on something something they've

862
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 8: done been phenomenal. What we've done is uh. I think

863
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 8: Kareem Jackson is a safety. This kid has got a

864
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 8: lot of talent and he's I think he's going to

865
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 8: be somebody on their roster that later in the season,

866
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 8: you're gonna see guys like this on defense. Well, our

867
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 8: cast offs are going to be starters on other teams.

868
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 8: You know that would because they're looking at what we're

869
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 8: doing and uh before oh yeah, they're just looking at

870
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 8: there in the waters the Sharks going like, who's buffalo cutting?

871
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 8: Because we're gonna cut some really really good players and

872
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 8: they can't.

873
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 9: Hold them all. But uh, you know, Kareem Jackson has

874
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 9: got a lot of stuff at safety. He's like the

875
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 9: man can play. I think he's going to make a

876
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 9: spot on this process.

877
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to see how it plays, Jay, And

878
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: thanks for the call. I don't know if i'd call

879
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 2: him a kid. He's thirty five years old. Yeah, played

880
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 2: for Houston and Denver last year. Appeared in ten games,

881
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 2: made two interceptions over fifty tackles, So still a productive

882
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: player in this league at his advanced age. I mean,

883
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 2: I think he's got thirteen fourteen seasons.

884
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: I think he's an insurance policy and certainly somebody to

885
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: help him get through some practices while they wait for

886
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: Mike Edwards and maybe Cole Bishop to get back on

887
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 3: the field. You gotta have enough guys to go around,

888
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 3: and certainly nothing's going to be something he hasn't seen

889
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 3: before because of his veteran you know, thirty five years old,

890
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: he's been around the league for a while, so he's

891
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 3: going to have seen everything you can see. He'll get

892
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: acclimated faster than a young kid and undrafted rookie for

893
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 3: your free agent would. But then again, too, you run

894
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: into the exact same thing you run into with Hide

895
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: and Ployer. You got to keep him healthy and if

896
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: you can do that, he's certainly going to be able

897
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: to help you. But he's right now, he's an insurance

898
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: policy to help him get into the preseason, get some

899
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 3: quality reps in practice and give him some looks and

900
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: also if need be, play some games.

901
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 2: Steve and I we talk about roster problems. We were

902
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: talking about the problem at defensive end right now, because

903
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 2: you've last year the Bills. I believe, if I remember,

904
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: I took ten defensive linemen, they had five defensive tackles

905
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: and five ends. I don't know if they're gonna have

906
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: the luxury of being able to do that again, And

907
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: even if they are, there could still be an odd

908
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: man out because defensive tackle wise, at Oliver Da Kwon Jones,

909
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: Austin Johnson is making the team, Dwayne Carter the third

910
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: round pick. That's four right there. If you want to

911
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: add a fifth, is it Dewan Smoot who kind of

912
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: vacillates between end and defensive tackle. Because then at the

913
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 2: edge position you got Von Miller, Greg Russo, aj Epanessa,

914
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: and then you have Kingsley Jonathan, Javon Solomon and Casey

915
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: two Hill. And Casey two Hill is a Trent Murphy

916
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: type and a set the edge type. So you can't

917
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 2: keep six there. And I think if you put any

918
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: of them on the practice squad, they're gonna get poached.

919
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: Kings Lee John think I poached two years ago off

920
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: the practice squad by Chicago. Two years later now after

921
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: being on the roster last year for the Bills, he

922
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 2: would definitely get poached, and I think Javon Solomon would

923
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: get picked up. So they're really gonna have to do

924
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: some some problem solving here with the numbers.

925
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: Really well, it's gonna come down to which of those

926
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 3: guys you know, is Dwayne Carter or either any of

927
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: these guys, Austin Johnson or any of these guys gonna

928
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 3: be better tack defensive tackles than Javon Solomon and Kingsley

929
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 3: Jonathan are gonna be ends. Plus you gotta think too,

930
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 3: they're gonna want to go heavier at end because of Vaughn.

931
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 3: They're not gonna want to be forced to throw Vaughn

932
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 3: into one hundred percent of the defensive snaps in the

933
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 3: game because their rosters slide. Even if they got guys

934
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: on there, you know, on ir or on the practice

935
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: squad or or inactive for the game, they don't want

936
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 3: to get into that. So Vaughn is a little bit

937
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 3: of a If he's a pass rush specialist specialist, they're

938
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: gonna he's gonna soak up a full roster spot to

939
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: play thirty snaps a week, right, but not much snaps.

940
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: So that's gonna cause them probably to maybe lean towards

941
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: the end position. So we'll see. But it does come

942
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: down to if you've got a couple of guys that

943
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 3: are really playing well at defensive tackle and you got

944
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 3: some guys that are just okay at end, maybe you

945
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: do lean t tackle. But I think Vaughan changes that equation.

946
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and well, yeah, because you want somebody that's gonna

947
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: play the bulk of the reps. And maybe that's people

948
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: like Casey two Hill and Duan Smoot who are excellent

949
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: run game edge defenders. Maybe they do the dirty work

950
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: and Vaughn comes on for the pass rush work. But

951
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: who's joining him on the other side, especially if Greg

952
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: Russeau is kicking inside? Is it aj Epanessa? Maybe it's

953
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: kings Lee Jonathan. Do you like what you're seeing? You

954
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: know from uh Javon Solomon. So, I mean, you only

955
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 2: have so many spots, So I'm really and I think

956
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: preseason will largely spell out a lot of this too.

957
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 6: You know.

958
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: Preseason performance I think is going to go a long

959
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: way to them deciding who's on and who's off the

960
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: fifty three. But I mean, look, it's a good problem

961
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 2: to have. I just think the Bills personnel department, much

962
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: like we are, it stings when guys that you identified

963
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: are talented enough, but you just don't have a spot

964
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,479
Speaker 2: for him to get picked up and put on another roster.

965
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 3: They need to go to that. They need to go

966
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: to that eighteen game schedule so they can keep like

967
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 3: five more guys and then you won't feel like you're

968
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 3: getting rid of a guy who got you might actually

969
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,479
Speaker 3: explode during the season, you know, and you can pick

970
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: whatever position you want. You always get down there to

971
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 3: where one of your position, particularly in the Bills, since

972
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 3: they've been contenders over the last five or six years,

973
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: you feel like there's always one or two guys that

974
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: you wish you could hang on to, but because of

975
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 3: the depth of the position, you can't because you need

976
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: some depth in another position. If you know, if they

977
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 3: if they go to this eighteen game schedule and you know,

978
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: they give you an extra five guys on the roster

979
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 3: on game day.

980
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: Five seems a little fat. I would I would guess

981
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: two to three because right now you're already allowed to

982
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: do two call ups to get to fifty five on

983
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: game day from your practice squad, you know, in the

984
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: event of injury stuff and things like that.

985
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 3: But that's still the same fifty three guys.

986
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and because those guys are down.

987
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: Here, yeah, yeah, it's still the same fifty three guys.

988
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you want to it's.

989
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: Like you're limited it to a number of elevations per player.

990
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 3: So it's it's it's difficult because it's not like the

991
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 3: old days, before anybody was keeping track. You know, you

992
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 3: go to the Washington Redskins would have two practices a

993
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 3: day and they would have guys on IR. They'd have

994
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 3: like nine guys on I are playing offensive line, and

995
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 3: they would go out there and have a second practice.

996
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 3: So those guys, as soon as somebody get hurt, said

997
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 3: you're in, knows the plays, knows the game plan, knows everything.

998
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 3: So and they just do that week to week. So

999
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 3: it won't be quite like that, but it would help

1000
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: a lot, just an extra what do you think about it,

1001
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 3: It'd be even if it was four guys, it'd be

1002
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 3: two on the defensive side, two on the offensive side.

1003
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 3: That would be a little bit of breathing room for

1004
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 3: these position groups where you need one more guy. And

1005
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: then if you're completely healthy, it allows you to have

1006
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: that special pass rusher or the you know, the special

1007
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 3: run stuff or the you know the field that's six '

1008
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 3: ten field goal block guy or something, you know what

1009
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: I mean, All that.

1010
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: Stuff got to take a break here. Our number two

1011
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: is going to begin with Bill's general manager, Brandon Bean.

1012
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: He'll be sitting here right between us when we return

1013
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 2: here on one, Bill's Live presented by a lot of

1014
00:51:40,719 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: health It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1015
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: The One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health.

1016
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back hour number two here on a Tuesday,

1017
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker one Bill's live out here after

1018
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 2: day six of training camp goes in the books. Please

1019
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: to be joined now by Bill's general manager, Brandon Bean.

1020
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 2: Thanks for giving us some time, Brandon and uh roster

1021
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 2: transaction today. Bring in veteran Kareem Jackson and not a

1022
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: moment too soon because unfortunately we saw cold Bishop leeve

1023
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: a little early today. I know you've seen these situations

1024
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 2: crop up before you get an injury bug at one position.

1025
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 2: Because Mike Edwards is already on the shelf, how quickly

1026
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: is Kareem going to acclimate here? I saw him out

1027
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: there watching today and.

1028
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we're he's been you know, he's been running

1029
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 6: through his stuff being ready. But you know, football shape

1030
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 6: is football shape, so we're going to try and ramp

1031
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 6: him up the best we can. It's a you know,

1032
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 6: it's not going to be the full ramp up that

1033
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 6: that you go through everyone, but try and get him.

1034
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 6: He understands he's a VET, so we'll get him through.

1035
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 6: Individual give him more days to mentally learn this defense,

1036
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 6: learn the calls, learn't some checks. So I don't know

1037
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 6: if we'll see him out there before we get through

1038
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,479
Speaker 6: the Red Blue game, but I would think next week

1039
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 6: he'll be, you know, pretty much full go Okay.

1040
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 3: So there's been a lot of talk about the turnover

1041
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 3: and the roster, particularly on the defensive side, because you know,

1042
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: the defensive backs are kind of rints through Kyirs kind

1043
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 3: of up into the mix now and the guys that

1044
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: gone from the defensive line. But this kind of, to

1045
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 3: me speaks a little bit to what you and Sean

1046
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 3: had ahead of you when you first took the job.

1047
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 3: This is like back in your wheelhouse, and I mean

1048
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 3: you were hired to come here and build something and

1049
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 3: you're you know, on that side of the ball at

1050
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 3: least this year. It's got to be Rimini. Listen of

1051
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 3: what you went through early on to your time here.

1052
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, we've been talking about and you know, there's different

1053
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 6: ways you can explain it. Steve. It's it hasn't been

1054
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 6: a year of transition, but we still feel like we've

1055
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 6: got a lot of young guys that have played minutes,

1056
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 6: whether it's back up, whether it's special teams, uh or

1057
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 6: fill in start whatever that we feel are ready to ascend.

1058
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 6: And then we've added some pieces, uh you know, whether

1059
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 6: it's say, you know, we bring Taylor Rapi in here

1060
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 6: last year, a year in our system, really felt he fits,

1061
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,479
Speaker 6: get him extended. And then you know, we draft Cole,

1062
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 6: We bring in Mike Edwards DeMar's back a year off

1063
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 6: of his thing, and and then now you know, with

1064
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 6: with Mike's injury, we bring in uh, you know, Kareem

1065
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 6: and and we'll we'll get him up to speed. So yeah,

1066
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 6: it's uh, there's always gonna be some turnover change somewhere.

1067
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 6: We talked about so long. We got so lucky to

1068
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 6: have Mike and Jordan for as long as we did.

1069
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 6: And you know, it's up to it's up to the

1070
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 6: other guys. Tarren Johnson at least Wrap's been here a year,

1071
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 6: Terrell Bernard year too, you know, on that back end,

1072
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 6: just to make sure communication is where it needs.

1073
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,479
Speaker 2: To be, right, I'll stay on that side of the ball.

1074
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 2: So you know, kyer Eli, I've seen already twice two

1075
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 2: occasions where he has a rep coach of Dye pulls

1076
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: him aside. He tells him about some kind of little

1077
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: extra technique he wants him to execute at the end

1078
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: of a play, you know, to finish a play, so

1079
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: to speak, comes right back the next rep and does

1080
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: it to a tee. It already seems like Coach of

1081
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: Die is having a really positive influence on the consistency

1082
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: of of Kyer's game.

1083
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think, you know, Kyer's playing very confident. I think,

1084
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 6: you know, Coach of Die and him have come in

1085
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 6: and formed a great bond, a great relationship, and neither

1086
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 6: one of them really knew each other. And so I

1087
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 6: think they just started from ground zero and hey, whatever's

1088
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 6: happened in the last two years, good or bad, let's just

1089
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 6: let's just start like you're, you know, a rookie or

1090
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 6: we just signed you as a free agent. Come in here,

1091
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 6: and let's get on the same page. And I commend

1092
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 6: both of them for that. And I think it's shown.

1093
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 6: I think he's, uh, you know, Kyer's had great flashes here,

1094
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 6: it's just you know, picking it all up and looking

1095
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 6: for consistency. It's you gotta he consistent on defense. And

1096
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 6: so I think he's had a heck of a you know,

1097
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 6: a start to the camp and and has made some

1098
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 6: you know, some splash plays and and he is a

1099
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 6: player that I think he I think we're seeing more

1100
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 6: and more. He feeds off of confidence and right now

1101
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 6: he's playing very confident.

1102
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 3: We had this conversation before, but Brownie and I have

1103
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 3: been pumping the tires for two years on Kingsley Jonathan,

1104
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 3: and now I'm pumping the tires on Javon Solomon. The

1105
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 3: only I think, from what I've seen in practice, the

1106
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 3: only reason Javon didn't get drafted little Highers because he's

1107
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 3: maybe two inches too short. But man, oh man, he's

1108
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 3: he's got it under the hood. To me, he's got

1109
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 3: long arms and he's really shown up. Well, you've got

1110
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 3: some young guys up front, uh, and not only that

1111
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 3: with Dorian Williams and you've got some athletes up there.

1112
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: It really looks like a fast, athletic front seven with

1113
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 3: the addition to the new guys.

1114
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I like who we got and I

1115
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 6: think you're right. Kingsley has been one of those guys

1116
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 6: super active while learning the nuances of the rush techniques

1117
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 6: and what people are trying to do. And I think

1118
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 6: Javon is in that. You know, Javon has had a

1119
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 6: lot of sacks production at Troy and had a big

1120
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 6: year this year and and I think you see there's

1121
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 6: some natural rush, you know it. Some guys just have

1122
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 6: that feel he is having. You know, he's having to

1123
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 6: figure out now that we're in pads, how guys are

1124
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 6: going to play him and if guys are going to

1125
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 6: short set him, if they're gonna you know, try and

1126
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 6: long arm him. But he he has link that you

1127
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 6: mentioned as well, and he's still working his moves.

1128
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 4: You know.

1129
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 6: It's that's where you want Vaughn to uh, you know,

1130
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 6: as good as he's been in his career and all that,

1131
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 6: and he's he's had Von's had a good camp that

1132
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 6: for those guys to watch and learn from a you know,

1133
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 6: a first ballot Hall of Famer.

1134
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Von flash today on back to back play

1135
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 2: He's got sacks during the third down period. You know

1136
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 2: you taught. Everybody's like, well, is he going to be

1137
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: the old Vaughn again? The Vaughn we're used to seeing,

1138
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: not the Von that was on the field last year.

1139
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: And we know what Vaughn said about that and everything.

1140
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: But the question I want to ask you, since you

1141
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: have the train die, is there that get off burst

1142
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: that looks familiar Von Miller to you.

1143
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we just talked about it with confidence

1144
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 6: with Kyir. I can see a guy who's come confident

1145
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 6: in his body and that he's got that twitch back.

1146
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 6: And you're right. He had back to back plays today.

1147
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 6: He beat Spencer kind of up and undermove and then

1148
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 6: they ran a little stunt and he ran it so tight.

1149
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 6: Sometimes on those stunts they get too wide and the

1150
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 6: balls out. He ran it tight right off the guard

1151
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 6: and if it's not a sack, it's gonna be a

1152
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 6: throwaway for sure. He definitely would have got Josh off

1153
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 6: the spot. And so it's been good to see that.

1154
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 6: You've seen, you saw Flash at the end of the year.

1155
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 6: It's been very consistent to start a camp, and I

1156
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 6: think the key will be keeping him fresh. Yesterday day off.

1157
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 6: Today he looks nice and fresh.

1158
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. From the day. First day at training camp, it

1159
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 3: jumped out, How good camp Josh has happened. Yeah, he's

1160
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 3: throwing it. I mean he sees it fitting it into windows.

1161
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 3: This group of wideouts, for as new as they are,

1162
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 3: you don't see too many balls on the ground.

1163
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think Josh has had a really

1164
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 6: good camp. Steve. I think other than that one at

1165
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 6: the end of it the other day was three straight throws.

1166
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 6: I was asking, did somebody pay Josh off to uh

1167
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 6: just yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. The first one was

1168
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 6: on him. The second one was kind of a fifty

1169
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 6: to fifty ball. You'd like to see the receiver, you know,

1170
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 6: be able to get his hands on it, hopefully and

1171
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 6: knock it down. The third was of miscommunication. I think

1172
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 6: it was him and Shakir just and that's what you're

1173
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 6: doing this. But that was one of Kyer's plays, a

1174
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 6: nice you know, you know, pick six for him. But uh,

1175
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 6: other than other than that little series man he is, Uh,

1176
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 6: he's had a really good camp. The defensive staff is

1177
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 6: right outside my office here in the setup and uh,

1178
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 6: Bobby multiple times like cheeze man seventeen. I hear him

1179
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 6: out there like that. You know, we think we got

1180
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 6: him and uh and and he's he's pulled some Houdini plays.

1181
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: Still. We still remember Salo when he was the d

1182
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: C in San Francisco and you guys are playing him

1183
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 2: in Arizona. Yeah, and he's out there on the sideline

1184
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 2: checking for rain, Like what the hell am I supposed

1185
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: to do? Over here with a lab.

1186
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 3: Same thing Vic Fangio when he was the head coach

1187
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 3: of Denver calling the defenses. They're they're standing over there

1188
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 3: on the sidelines, and we we talk about it every

1189
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: once in a while. We have seen multiple defensive coordinators

1190
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 3: playing the Buffalo Bills who make the absolute perfect defensive

1191
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 3: call and it goes for a touchdown against them, and

1192
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 3: you see the look on their faces like you know,

1193
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 3: they am.

1194
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 2: I supposed to do?

1195
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's you know, it's like, you know, it's not fair.

1196
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 3: Josh just you know, puts the cape on or makes

1197
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 3: a throw or steps away from it. It really is.

1198
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 3: And we've seen some of that in this training camp.

1199
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 3: And have you gotten any feedback from Josh or heard

1200
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 3: the conversation with the coach about how Josh feels about

1201
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 3: all the new guys, how does things have? Have things

1202
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 3: changed for him mentally with you know, the new faces

1203
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 3: he's throwing to.

1204
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's it's one of those things where

1205
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 6: there's you know, he is not worried about where it's going,

1206
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 6: whether it's tight ends, receivers, backs. I think you're seeing

1207
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 6: all them get the ball and and I think that's

1208
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 6: good now at times you're gonna have to, you know,

1209
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 6: he's got to find this player or that player of

1210
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 6: the ball, big moments, red zone, third down, whatever it is.

1211
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 6: But I think it's been a group where when he

1212
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 6: drops back, you truly don't know where the ball's going.

1213
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 6: And I think there's some power, you know, in that.

1214
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 6: And it's a young, vibrant group. You don't hear anybody, Hey,

1215
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 6: why am I running with twos? Why am I with

1216
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 6: the threes? You know, why not with the ones? And

1217
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 6: I think the coaches have done a good job. Some days.

1218
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 6: You've seen some younger guys up there running and some

1219
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 6: guys you see with the ones dropping back. They're just

1220
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 6: trying to give them all looks, see how they do,

1221
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 6: see how they feel, and ultimately, who does Josh feel

1222
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 6: most comfortable with it? Who is he going? Man? I

1223
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 6: know this guy's going to be where I need him

1224
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,479
Speaker 6: to be at the right time.

1225
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 2: And I know the fans have gotten excited already about

1226
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: Kean out here because his physical ability jumps out at

1227
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 2: you like you could have never seen a football game

1228
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: before in your life, and his physical talents are readily apparent.

1229
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: But I think what I'm probably guilty of underestimating a

1230
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: little bit with him is his football IQ because he's

1231
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: seen very early in the play to recognize the coverage,

1232
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 2: recognize what the dB is trying to do to him,

1233
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 2: and he'll get him turned. And as soon as he does,

1234
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 2: he knows exactly what he's doing to get the separation.

1235
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: I may have sold him. I don't know him, so

1236
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: it's not you know, I don't know what my expectation

1237
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 2: was going in, but he just seems to have a

1238
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: football IQ that is a lot higher than his age

1239
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 2: might indicate. Did you agree with.

1240
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 6: That or yeah, he's he's very instinctive, Chris. I think

1241
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 6: that's he's still young in the game, but his instincts

1242
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 6: you can feel. He's got a great feel of of

1243
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 6: setting guys up when when to cut the route off.

1244
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 6: He's still learning things, you know, and you'll see. It's

1245
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 6: great when you see after a play, whether sometimes even

1246
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 6: has been completed, where Josh is over there, Hey I

1247
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 6: was thinking this or that or whatever, but you can

1248
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 6: see just even their work in a short time, they've

1249
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 6: made some good connection early on, which is which a

1250
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 6: very positive sign.

1251
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 3: Any you're not going barefoot these days.

1252
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 6: Or eating without utensils.

1253
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 2: How does he do cereal in the morning, That's my question.

1254
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 6: It's funny when we brought him in for the free

1255
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 6: agent visitor when we were signing him, he sat down

1256
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 6: at the table with him and I'm like, you need

1257
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 6: some silverware, and he would already he was like grab

1258
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 6: and I was like, you must think we're out of

1259
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 6: silver ware. He was already eating. He was like, no,

1260
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 6: I don't use silverware, and I was like, all right, yeah,

1261
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 6: and then we got into I don't even know how

1262
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 6: we got into it. He had basically I think it

1263
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 6: was chicken. He had some chicken and all these different

1264
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 6: fruits and I was like, you didn't like any of

1265
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 6: the vegetabs and he goes, I don't eat vegetables. And

1266
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 6: I was like, wow, how'd your mother let you get

1267
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 6: away with that? Mine shl would.

1268
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1269
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: Some of those far out people are They believe animals

1270
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 2: are food plants or medicine, and that's how they kind

1271
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 2: of work those two things, so you won't see veggies

1272
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 2: on their plate for I don't know if Max that guy,

1273
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 2: but he sounds like it whatever works for him, hey,

1274
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 2: as well as it works for him, and he's making

1275
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 2: places and speaking to him because Steve and I were

1276
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 2: talking about him a little bit because it's very it,

1277
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 2: at least in the early going here, that he's one

1278
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 2: of those players that you call glue guys, like just

1279
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 2: they pulled the whole not just the wide receiver room.

1280
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 2: It seems like he's capable of kind of pulling that

1281
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 2: whole offensive unit together. I don't need to tell you

1282
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 2: the importance of blue guys, but with the roster turnover,

1283
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,919
Speaker 2: you had to have a guy pull all those new

1284
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 2: people together. I mean that's invaluable.

1285
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're looking for leaders in every room. And listen,

1286
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 6: we lost step and Gabe last year, that's no secret.

1287
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 6: And you know you're hoping Shakir in his third year.

1288
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 6: But to add a guy like Mac Max, a guy

1289
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 6: we've we've followed before, and the timing was right on

1290
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 6: this one. It was down to us in one other team,

1291
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,919
Speaker 6: and luckily, you know, I think one of the things

1292
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 6: that tip the scales for us was the timing of

1293
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 6: signing Mitch Trubisky. They were college teams North Carolina, and

1294
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 6: so really, uh, you know, between me lobbying with the

1295
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 6: agent and then getting Mitchell on the phone with him,

1296
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 6: and then of course Josh reaching out, But uh, it's uh,

1297
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 6: he's been a great addition separate of his ability. But

1298
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 6: what you talking about the locker room, the glue guy.

1299
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 6: You got to have those guys. We're always looking for

1300
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 6: trying to have leaders in every room, every position group

1301
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 6: if possible, and so I think we've got a few

1302
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 6: in there. But it's a new room, and so adding

1303
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 6: a guy with his experience and stability I thought was

1304
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 6: very important.

1305
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and with along with that, new guys, new groups,

1306
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 3: new coordinator and Bobby Babbage third one third different coordinator

1307
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 3: in three years, same thing on the offensive side, I

1308
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 3: gotta ask you. Before I got up here, I talked

1309
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 3: to Matt Smiley and a couple other guys. I had

1310
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 3: five extended conversations with different people about the kickoff rule.

1311
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 3: And what I've heard too is they're all still They're

1312
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 3: still the league is still sending emails and addendums to

1313
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 3: the rule out. Everybody is on either on pins and

1314
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 3: needles or excited about how this thing is going to

1315
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 3: turn out. What are your thoughts about how this is

1316
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 3: going to be implemented, what's going to look like? And

1317
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 3: you know the ripple effects?

1318
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'm hoping that all teams will, you know,

1319
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 6: you know, I was almost I was talking to one

1320
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 6: of the guys in the office. I thought they should mandate,

1321
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 6: you know, the first three quarters of every preseason game,

1322
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 6: you gotta kick it. You know, you know it's got

1323
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 6: to be in there. If it's not, you got to

1324
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 6: rekick it or something late in the fourth you just

1325
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 6: want to get out of the game just for reps.

1326
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 6: And like mandated enough to make sure we're doing it.

1327
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 6: But because I do think it, I don't think we've

1328
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 6: seen the final uh you know, iteration of what this

1329
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 6: rule is is going to be this year. I do

1330
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 6: think there's gonna be some kind of tweaks, an unintended consequence,

1331
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 6: whatever it may be. And you're right, they can't. You know,

1332
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 6: this week we got a memo about how the ball

1333
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 6: can be on the tee. Now you know, you can't

1334
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 6: lay it flat. It's got to be down. And so

1335
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 6: they're they're still looking at various things. And you know,

1336
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 6: I think if people are nervous about how it's going

1337
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 6: to go for them, they may just say kick it

1338
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 6: in the end zone and we'll take it at thirty

1339
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 6: early in the year to see how it's playing. Out

1340
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 6: because you're right, you don't want to lose a game

1341
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 6: because you weren't prepared for that, right.

1342
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a race to crack the code. Quite really, absolutely,

1343
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 2: it really is. Brandon, thanks for the time, as always,

1344
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 2: appreciate your visiting with us here at training camp. We

1345
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: always value the time, so thanks for shedding some light

1346
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 2: on the roster here thus far through week.

1347
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 6: One, Yes, sir, appreciate you guys.

1348
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 2: All right, So that's GM Brandon Bean joining us here,

1349
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 2: and we do have an update on Bill's offensive lineman

1350
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 2: Alec Anderson. As we told you earlier in the show,

1351
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: he had to be hospitalized for heat related symptoms. So

1352
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 2: the team just released an update on his condition and

1353
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 2: it reads as follows. Bill's offensive lineman Alec Anderson is

1354
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 2: currently recovering in a local hospital after suffering he related

1355
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 2: illness symptoms. After today's practice, the Bill's medical team, Brandon

1356
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 2: Being and Sean McDermott spoke with Alec by phone a

1357
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 2: short time ago and he was in good spirits. He

1358
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: is expected to be released from the hospital later this afternoon,

1359
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 2: so I would estimate Steve that you know, he's getting

1360
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: ived up to rehydrate his body. Yeah, and with an

1361
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 2: off day tomorrow, he couldn't have asked for better timing.

1362
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 2: From that perspective, I think there's a very good chance

1363
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 2: that you know, he's back on the back on the

1364
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: field on Wednesday.

1365
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 3: Well this is yeah, this is a bump in the road.

1366
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 3: But we you know, we see guys do the same

1367
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 3: thing even in game time in September games, you know,

1368
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 3: where in a regular season game they'll have to go

1369
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 3: out and get an IV and stuff, and where normally

1370
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 3: you just take him out of practice. In game setting,

1371
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 3: they try and get back in. They'll go at halftime,

1372
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 3: get an IV that kind of thing, try and head

1373
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 3: back in. And you know, like you said, when we

1374
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 3: found out that he'd been ambulanced over to the hospital,

1375
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 3: big dudes lose a lot of fluid. I remember there

1376
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 3: was a teammate of mine my rookie season. We were

1377
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 3: down in Texas and the guy lost literally lost twenty

1378
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 3: five pounds during one of our games in the heat

1379
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 3: of this, in the heat of that, and I saw

1380
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 3: him after the game and you could tell like he

1381
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 3: looked different. He looked different, He looked like he was

1382
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 3: used up, you know, and you got it. Yeah, so

1383
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 3: it happens.

1384
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 2: Right there are the lineman can lose eight to ten

1385
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 2: pounds in water weight in a given two and a

1386
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: half hour practice in this kind of heat, and the

1387
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 2: way the athletic trainers have traditionally gone about making sure

1388
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 2: they rehydrate properly before the next practice. Back in the

1389
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 2: day of two days, they used to literally have a

1390
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 2: table full of those pedialytes and other hydration drinks and

1391
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: they the linemen, they would take two of them and

1392
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: hand them to them, and they say, you got to

1393
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 2: finish both of these before the next practice, Like go

1394
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 2: take them up to lunch with you finish both of

1395
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 2: them before practice. Because you not only have to put

1396
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 2: back what you lost, you have to you have to

1397
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 2: go above and beyond that with an extra surplus, because

1398
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,759
Speaker 2: you may put back what you lost, but between now

1399
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 2: and the next practice, you're gonna lose some more.

1400
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 3: Right, And it's not just the fluids, it's also the

1401
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 3: electrolytes and all the vitamins and minerals that you lose

1402
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 3: as well. So yeah, it's a big job, and it's

1403
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 3: it's something that they take very seriously. Over the years,

1404
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 3: we've learned to do it, and so that's Yeah, he's

1405
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 3: gonna be fine, no, no question about it. But it

1406
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 3: is something they got a monitor, and you know, in

1407
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 3: the day like today, it's not surprising to see it happen.

1408
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 2: So glad that the Bill's athletic training staff and the

1409
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 2: medical team identified that early, took you know, prompt action

1410
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: and looks like he's going to make a full recovery

1411
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 2: and be good to go here in the next several hours.

1412
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 2: They're going to release him later this afternoon and provided

1413
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 2: all his vitals look good and his hydration level is

1414
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 2: back to normal reading, So that was certainly good to hear.

1415
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 2: Speaking of the offensive line, Steve, you know, we the

1416
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 2: starting unit has been unchanged since camp began. That's not

1417
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: a surprise, I think to any degree. What I have

1418
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 2: found interesting is the shuffling between guard and tackle for

1419
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 2: a number of players behind them, Lyle Collins being one

1420
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 2: of them. Another was Tyland Grable, the sixth round draft

1421
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 2: choice Ryan Vandermark has flipped mainly between right and left tackle.

1422
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 2: He stayed almost exclusively at tackle throughout, and let's not

1423
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 2: forget he was the swing tackle for this team last year.

1424
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: I don't get the sense that seven year starter Lyle

1425
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 2: Collins has taken that spot from him, yet in light

1426
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 2: of the fact that we've seen Collins play tackle and

1427
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 2: guard where Vandermark has played exclusively tackle, either on the

1428
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 2: right or left side, it's kind of an it's been

1429
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 2: kind of tough to get a handle on just who's

1430
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 2: competing with whom they are per se.

1431
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know that they're in direct competition,

1432
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 3: but that the coaching staff will look at both their

1433
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 3: skill sets and say, do we need a guy that

1434
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 3: can play an okay tackle and a really good guard,

1435
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 3: or guy that plays both tackles really well, and we

1436
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 3: can go light one spot because we got a guy

1437
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 3: that can play guard and tackle and Lyle Collins, whereas

1438
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 3: Vandermark is only a tackle. But if we keep Collins,

1439
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 3: we've got a tackle landguard in one guy and we

1440
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 3: can go light there and keep an extra d lineman

1441
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 3: or an extra whatever and whatever. So it may be

1442
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 3: about roster construction and skill sets rather than in direct

1443
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 3: competition with each other, you know that kind of thing.

1444
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 2: And you're talking about keeping extra people. And we know

1445
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: that the mo of coach Aaron Kromer, the offensive line coach,

1446
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 2: is to cross train just about everybody maybe with the

1447
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 2: exception of Vandermark and a couple of others Dion Dawkins.

1448
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 2: But with that second group, you know, you have Will Klapp,

1449
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 2: the veteran center that they signed from the Chargers in

1450
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 2: free agency, and then you have Cedric van pram Granger.

1451
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 2: I mean that's center two and three. And it's not

1452
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 2: often that you see NFL clubs keep three guys whose

1453
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 2: center is their primary position. That would be the case

1454
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 2: here if they kept McGovern followed by Lap, followed by

1455
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 2: Van pran Grainger. But maybe there's that extra spot that

1456
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 2: you get if you have other people.

1457
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 3: Cross Collins who can play tackle and guard and guard.

1458
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 3: I think they've got enough guards because you think that

1459
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 3: Van pran Granger would go in at center, McGovern would

1460
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 3: move out to guard if you know the in that case, Oh,

1461
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 3: you think if a guard guy, if a guard got hurt,

1462
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 3: could be or you know, if they if they like

1463
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 3: Van prant if they think he's the best five, if

1464
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 3: they can put him in there at center.

1465
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 2: Clap's been running ahead of him through the first week.

1466
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 2: That's subject to change.

1467
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 3: That clap Clap may be a one position guy. He

1468
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 3: may play center, but they may not like that. Option.

1469
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 2: Well, they've had him at center guard. They've had Van

1470
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 2: pran Grainger at center guard right across training those guys too.

1471
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,919
Speaker 3: So yeah, they got a little bit of an embarrassment

1472
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 3: at Wealth up front, I think, except for maybe at

1473
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 3: the tackle a little Lyle Collins, Vandermark and then Dawkins

1474
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 3: and Brown are pretty good.

1475
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 2: You got a budding a budding rookie and Tyland Grabil

1476
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 2: who's played a lot of tech I got.

1477
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 3: I'll say I like him. He's got a nice feet,

1478
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 3: he's really a nimble and now.

1479
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 2: They've used him at guard a little bit too, so

1480
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 2: they're using him to tackle guard.

1481
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 3: This is the guy that was the rugby player.

1482
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 2: No, no, that's Travis Clayton. Tyland Crable as the kid

1483
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 2: there was the former high school quarterback who transitioned. He's

1484
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 2: transitioned to tackle. How tall is he? He's like six six.

1485
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 3: Six, he's really big. He's got I like him.

1486
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 2: I've really like like nimble feet.

1487
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's and he seems like he's When he gets

1488
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 3: a guy that comes in and bull rushes him, he's

1489
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 3: up to it and it doesn't it doesn't phase him.

1490
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 3: And I'm I like where he's at. I really like

1491
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 3: the way he's the way he has played so far.

1492
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 3: And although I've only seen I've only noticed him playing tackle.

1493
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 3: He's you know, he's playing both, but I haven't been

1494
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 3: watching when he's been at guard. I like him at tackle.

1495
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: We should mention there are two Mike Edwards on this roster.

1496
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: The safety who's currently injured with the hamstring injury, but

1497
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 2: there's also an undrafted rookie offensive lineman Mike Edwards who

1498
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 2: goes six ' five three forty. He was in concussion

1499
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: protocol yesterday. Today he was on the practice field in

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Speaker 2: a red non contact jersey, so he was back participating,

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01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 2: albeit on a limited basis. But you know, that's a

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01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 2: guy that's I think got practice squad potential if they

1503
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 2: feel they can bring him along. Yeah, suffice it to say,

1504
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 2: a lot of good options for coach Kromer here. I

1505
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 2: would argue this is one of the deepest offensive line

1506
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 2: contingents that we have seen here in the McDermott era.

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01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 3: I this offensive line is it's very deep and with

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01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 3: quality guys and a lot of experience in those backups,

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01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 3: the guys that you would think would be the first

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01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 3: guy's in right now. I love the offensive line where

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01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 3: it's at when the ones go out there. I'll say this,

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01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 3: when the ones go out there, there is a marked

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01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 3: difference because of the reps they got last year. I mean,

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01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 3: the five guys took up, you know, all every single

1515
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 3: snap in the regular season together last year. So they've

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01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 3: got some miles behind them together. You can tell because

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01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 3: when the twos go win, it's not quite so air

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01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 3: tight as it is when those ones. When the Ones

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01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 3: are in their man o man, it looks really good

1520
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 3: in the run and the past. So the guys that

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01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 3: were backing them up, I gotta tell you, there's there's

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01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 3: some teams out there that wish they had our five

1523
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 3: backups instead of the guys they got at their front five.

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01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 3: I'm I'm really impressed with the depth and quality of

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01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 3: the offensive line here, both the ones and the twos.

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01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 3: I think they're really good. I really do.

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01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,919
Speaker 2: I think that'll surface in the preseason. The only unfortunate

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01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 2: part about that is you can't keep them all and

1529
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 2: once they have preseason tape out there, there are other

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01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 2: teams that are like, oh, we could use him as

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01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 2: our seventh guy. They don't have the depth that the Bills.

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01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 3: Both kidding me. I mean, Lyle Collins would be out

1533
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 3: of work for like two seconds. But Vandermark and so

1534
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 3: would you know, Van Prant Granger, I meanwhere.

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01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 2: You know, that's gonna be another tough decision.

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01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're going to keep as many of

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01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 3: those guys as they can.

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01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, I think the guy's on the

1539
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 2: practice squad, you can only protect four out of the sixteen.

1540
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 3: Everything that's and Alec Anderson who the guy who's he's

1541
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 3: he's been working at guard and center and center. Another

1542
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 3: guy who's really versatile. We've liked him ever since he

1543
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 3: came out.

1544
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an undrafted rug, but he's.

1545
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 3: You know, it's a hard it's a hard group to crack,

1546
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 3: you know, to get on the field.

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01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we come back, we're

1548
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 2: going to take a look at some of your comments

1549
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet. As we've been asking you today,

1550
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 2: what has been in your estimation Brandon Bean's best off

1551
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 2: season addition this off season in particular, who has looked

1552
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 2: lights out of training camp that Brandon Bean added to

1553
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 2: the roster this offseat And you're like, that is the

1554
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 2: number one move you let us know. We'll check the tweets.

1555
01:17:49,400 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 2: Sheeet next year on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned all

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01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 2: right back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown Steve

1557
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 2: Tasker with you. Are you or someone you know our

1558
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four Fan of the Year. We're looking for

1559
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 2: Bills fans who inspire others with their fandom, Steve to

1560
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 2: represent us at Super Bowl fifty nine. Visit nfl dot

1561
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 2: com slash Fan of the Year to nominate yourself or

1562
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 2: someone today. Get on it. Could be going to the

1563
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 2: Super Bowl to represent Bill's Mafia. How about that for

1564
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 2: a privilege. Can't beat that. That contest runs through September thirtieth,

1565
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 2: But get on it now because it is up and running.

1566
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 2: Get your nominee in early. We do have to get

1567
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 2: to the tweets sheet to get some of your comments

1568
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: about the best edition you feel GM Brandon being made

1569
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 2: this offseason. Sulla leads us off today and says love

1570
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 2: the draft picks, quality, depth, and the defensive line. Frankly speaking,

1571
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 2: I have been watching Bill's football since I was seven

1572
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy one. This administration has surpassed only by

1573
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 2: Bill Pollium. It is a joy watching the Bills play.

1574
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 2: When we have competence, staff and owners go bills.

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01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 3: I would agree, Okay, I would agree. You can't guess

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01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 3: that says it all. This this this crew, Yeah, I

1577
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 3: mean Bill Polling was a master at it. I brought

1578
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 3: guys in and built that roster up extremely well. These

1579
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 3: guys are in that ballpark, no question about a Brandon

1580
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 3: has done a masterful job every year. And it's a

1581
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 3: much more difficult, much different challenge now because of free

1582
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 3: agency and the fact that you know guys can leave, yeah,

1583
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 3: and you don't get their rights anyway, So it's you

1584
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:55,560
Speaker 3: got to do it every year, not just whenever a

1585
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 3: roster spot opens up. So yeah, Brandon Bean has is

1586
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 3: a very different league now than it was then when

1587
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 3: Bill Pauline did it. But both guys did a masterful job.

1588
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 2: And I'm reminded of what Brandon being said at the

1589
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 2: outset of this offseason. He knew the player turnover this

1590
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 2: roster was going to undergo, and he said it in

1591
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 2: no uncertain terms, we have to nail this draft. We

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01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 2: have to nail it. And early signs are positive concerning

1593
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman Cole Bishop today I thought was having his

1594
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 2: best practice before. Unfortunately it had to come out early

1595
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 2: with an injury, and we hope to get an update

1596
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 2: on that by tomorrow. And then you know, Dwayne Carter

1597
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 2: run down the list, Javon Solomon has flashed, Tyland Grable

1598
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 2: is flashed. I mean, we're going all the way down

1599
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 2: to the sixth round there, so you know, early signs

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01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 2: are encouraging. Concerning the draft, I think the free agent

1601
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 2: editions have been solid, so this roster can kind of

1602
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 2: reload and retool. Andrew on the tweet, she says, I

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01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 2: would say bringing back aj Epanessa. He's played amazingly well

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01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 2: for us and it was a smart move signing him

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01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 2: back and not allowing him to become a free agent. Yeah,

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01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 2: a new two year deal for aj and I thought

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01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 2: he was impactful for this team last year. You go

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01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: back to Week three, the tip pass that he intercepts

1609
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 2: himself runs into the end zone for a touchdown. He

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01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 2: did that later in the season. Who was it against

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01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. I want to say, no, not the Dolphins, Washington. No,

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01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 2: he did it in Washington in Week three, and then

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01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 2: he he tipped another ball and almost and intercepted it.

1614
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 2: What the heck team is Denver late in the season.

1615
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 2: But in any event, The point I'm making is guy

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01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,759
Speaker 2: had a little over half a dozen sacks, made plays

1617
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 2: on the ball with interceptions, tackles for loss, and you know,

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01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 2: for a rotational player, that's a pretty good season. So

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01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 2: can he take another step now that he's been paid?

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01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 3: Let's see, it will be interesting. It's interesting to think

1621
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 3: about too. Is he didn't He's not getting paid top

1622
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 3: five money is a defensive end either. And I think

1623
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 3: he knew he had a role to play here, likes

1624
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:52,839
Speaker 3: the culture here and was going to get an opportunity

1625
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 3: to continue his career here. And I think he took it,

1626
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 3: no question about it. But I'm with you. I thought

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01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 3: AJ signing him back said a lot about the way.

1628
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,839
Speaker 3: And I know players that really mean something to the players.

1629
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 3: You finally get a real look at what they think

1630
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 3: about you. Yeah, he's he's his cap hit, his dead cap.

1631
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 3: This A's deal is not huge. It's not huge. He's

1632
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 3: a three point nine cap hit this year. I mean

1633
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 3: that's fine. You can live with that easily. Yeah he can.

1634
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 3: And Plus I like the thing I like about it.

1635
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 3: You get these guys that sign these deals and they

1636
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 3: can't they could play their have their best year of

1637
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 3: their career, and they still wouldn't earn the money in

1638
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 3: that contract, you know, because they because the money is

1639
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 3: so outrageous, and teams overspend to get the guy or

1640
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 3: to keep the guy, or to sign the guys a

1641
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 3: free agent. You think you're outbidding everybody, And then you

1642
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 3: got to think about how how good is that guy

1643
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 3: gonna have to play to earn that money, and it's

1644
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 3: just impossible for them to do that. Yeah, AJ can

1645
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 3: do that. There's no question about if the Bills have

1646
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 3: a chance if AJ plays his best year to be

1647
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 3: very happy with the money they're paying him. And I

1648
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 3: think that's where you get into the even the mental

1649
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,640
Speaker 3: economics of it, where you've got guys out playing their contracts.

1650
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 3: The more guys you've got like that, the better your

1651
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 3: team's going to be.

1652
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 2: The personnel department spends a lot of time assessing a

1653
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 2: value to a player and what they're willing to pay

1654
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 2: to retain that player. That value obviously was close or

1655
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 2: good enough to what AJ had in mind for himself

1656
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 2: as well. And I think you know, behind closed doors,

1657
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 2: AJ probably expressed the desire to come back here. He

1658
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 2: likes this environment, He's got some good friends on that

1659
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 2: defensive line that he loves playing with. So I think

1660
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 2: he wanted to continue his career here and he will

1661
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,640
Speaker 2: for at least two more seasons. Bill's banter on the

1662
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 2: tweet sheet says Curtis Samuel. Of all the free agent additions,

1663
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 2: Samuel already shows the impact he will have on the

1664
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 2: offense and can be used in multiple roles to fit

1665
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 2: the positionless approach that Joe Brady is building. Yeah. I

1666
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 2: mean he used him as a Swiss army knife in

1667
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 2: Carolina when he had him in twenty twenty. Is the

1668
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 2: OC down there. Early indications are it's gonna be much

1669
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 2: the same kind of role for him here, And I

1670
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 2: wanted to ask Brandon Bean to kind of confirm that

1671
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,759
Speaker 2: for us, but we ran out of time. But Samuel

1672
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 2: looks like a Swiss army knife based on the first

1673
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,799
Speaker 2: six days of practice. And watch them what the offense

1674
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 2: is doing with him.

1675
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they trust him in ways they don't

1676
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 3: trust other wide receivers. You know, to get him the

1677
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 3: ball every way you can and and have him line

1678
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 3: up wherever you want. Those kind of guys are sort

1679
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 3: of I don't know, I say positionless offensive players. They're

1680
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 3: skill guys, tight in running back, wide.

1681
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 2: Receiver athletes in college they call him athletes guys. Yeah,

1682
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 2: listed position and.

1683
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:41,759
Speaker 3: Can line up anywhere as an eligible receiver on the offense,

1684
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 3: and and get the ball in any situation, so it

1685
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 3: and from any angle, either hand it to him or

1686
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 3: throw it to him or toss it to him. It's

1687
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 3: it's I think they're every team's kind of looking for

1688
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 3: a guy like that, and if they're not, I think

1689
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 3: they're they're behind the curve.

1690
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 2: On the tweet, she says, right now, I'm saying mac Hollins,

1691
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 2: the energy he was bringing to not only the wide

1692
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 2: receiver room but the offense as a whole is awesome.

1693
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 2: He seems like a lock to make the fifty three,

1694
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: but I want to see him be a consistent guy

1695
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 2: on the field making plays. I would say through the

1696
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 2: first week he's done that for the most part. And

1697
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 2: you heard coach McDermott or you heard Brandon Bean with

1698
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 2: us talking about how important he is as a glue

1699
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 2: guy in the locker room as well. So yeah, I

1700
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 2: mean I would peg him as a lock as well.

1701
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 2: I think the top four receivers are a lock for

1702
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 2: this roster, and that's mac Hollins, Curtis, Samuel Khalil Shakir,

1703
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 2: and Keon Coleman. Those are your top four and I

1704
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 2: think there are locks for the fifty three. Everything else

1705
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 2: after that is yet to be determined.

1706
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 3: They have all looked really good and consistent, consistently good.

1707
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 3: And I think too, it is the atmosphere. Like Brandon

1708
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 3: was saying in the last segment, Josh is just throwing

1709
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 3: the guy. He doesn't care who it is, running back,

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Speaker 3: tight end, wide receiver. He's reading defense and thrown to

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Speaker 3: the open player. He's not trying to feed anybody or

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Speaker 3: make sure he's getting a target. And I think at

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Speaker 3: this point of training camp, Joe Brady's probably told him

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Speaker 3: the target whoever you want here, here's the first option.

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Speaker 3: But you know, do what you want. And I think

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Speaker 3: even in the regular season they'll be able to they'll

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01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 3: hone in a little bit more and say, hey, on

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Speaker 3: this play, look for this guy, look for that guy,

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01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 3: and then they'll start orchestrating the guy they want to

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Speaker 3: get the ball. But that's not that that's not yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta take a break here. Some final thoughts on

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Speaker 2: the tweets you when we return, including a coaching retention

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Speaker 2: and trade value that tweet. Next here on one Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live presented by a Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back and the tweet I was telling

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Speaker 2: you about as far as the best off season A

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01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 2: edition by Brandon Being comes from Tim. He says two things.

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01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 2: Retaining promoting Bobby Babbage is beyond underrated edition by subtraction

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01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 2: getting the value they did on the digs deal is

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01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 2: going to keep the window open rather than running it back,

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01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 2: potentially creating bigger issues in the locker room and less

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01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 2: future return. Yeah, they're sitting on two two's, two fours,

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Speaker 2: and two sixes in next year's draft.

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Speaker 3: Steve, Yeah, it's huge.

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Speaker 2: It's huge in addition to their one and they're three

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Speaker 2: and they're five.

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Speaker 3: I'm yes there. If think about if they come back.

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Speaker 2: And crush next year or have to cut crush this.

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01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 3: Season, and they have this coming in next year, they're

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01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 3: really set up to stay at the top of the

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01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 3: conference for the foreseeable future, and this year's not gonna

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01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 3: be any different. They're going to be part of the conversation.

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01:27:56,439 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 3: They've got an incredibly difficult schedule, but they're part of

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01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 3: everybody else is incredibly difficult sketch up. Nobody's got that

1745
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 3: game circled around Buffalo with a W next to it.

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01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 3: So it's it's gonna be a fun year. And they

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01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 3: have managed to We've were seen that out here. They

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01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 3: have refurbished the roster. They've got talent that can they

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01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 3: can win with right pull it all together. But they

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01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 3: got to pulled together. But they've got talent, physical talent,

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01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 3: and some experience they can They're poised to play extremely

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01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,640
Speaker 3: well this year and contend and going forward after this

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01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 3: year as well. It's Brandon is just they've just been

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01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 3: masterful at this and then this year is gonna be

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01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 3: a lot. It's going to be its own fun ride.

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Speaker 2: We would be remiss if we did not put in

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Speaker 2: an Olympics mention here. If you missed the men's gymnastics

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Speaker 2: team yesterday, the first to medal as a team for

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Speaker 2: the US and men's gymnastics since two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 2: Congrats to them. They got the bronze yesterday. And I

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Speaker 2: just I was just telling Steve during the break, I

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Speaker 2: am a sucker for team Olympic events. So this is

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Speaker 2: the US men's team going against you know, Japan, China

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Speaker 2: Powers and men's gymnastics, and they pulled off the bronze

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01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 2: with a true team effort. Just watching these guys, you know,

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01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 2: put their best performance out there for their teammates, and

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Speaker 2: then the guys on the sidelines just pumping their fists

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01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 2: and jumping all over each other. Oh my god, it

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01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 2: is great. I couldn't done enough of it, and I

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01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: was lapping it up like chocolate pudding.

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Speaker 3: It's just come across our time thying. Uh. The the

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Speaker 3: women's team took gold and ran off with it. Ye

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01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 3: that crew, they they dominated, so good for them, man,

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Speaker 3: that was it.

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Speaker 2: Kind of helps an former Olympic gold medal individual all

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Speaker 2: around champions and Simone Biles. I think they're the only

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01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 2: team that boasted that. We have a stacked so good

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Speaker 2: for them.

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Speaker 3: Good for that.

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Speaker 2: It's awesome and I'm gonna watch more of it tonight.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait for track and field to start. That ain't

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Speaker 2: even begune. We're back tomorrow, but we're gonna be in

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Speaker 2: studio in Orchard Park. We'll see you had won on

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Speaker 2: an off day for the Bills.

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Speaker 6: He