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Speaker 1: Welcome to James Drivetime with John Oser and Brian sexted

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Speaker 1: sixty Jangs Drive Time. It starts right now. Good morning

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Speaker 1: from TIAA Bank Field in Jacksonville. It's time for Jack's Drivetime.

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Speaker 1: Brian Sexton along with John Osier. After a week away

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, we are back in jackson And about the

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Speaker 1: time we got done talking about this show, yesterday news

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Speaker 1: broke that we were anticipating but weren't quite sure when

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Speaker 1: what was going to happen. So let's lead with that today, John,

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Speaker 1: and that is the news that Calvin Ridley was reinstated

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Speaker 1: by the National Football League and he issued this statement

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Speaker 1: for everybody, and it's just kind of what we thought

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Speaker 1: it would be. You can't wait to get here. He

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Speaker 1: wants to show everybody what kind of person and player

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Speaker 1: he is and that the mistake of the past, the

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Speaker 1: gambling is over and done with. Sounds like he's just

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Speaker 1: motivated to be here as his future teammates and coaches

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Speaker 1: and the Jaguars fan base is to have him here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of anstor over this in the

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Speaker 1: last few weeks. I got a ton of emails talking

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Speaker 1: about every day that goes by more and more nervous.

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Speaker 1: It's always hard to predict the timing of these things

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Speaker 1: with the Commissioner's office because it is a story that

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Speaker 1: usually does not have very many sources leaking if you follow,

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Speaker 1: because it is confined to the Commissioner's office. So if

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Speaker 1: Goodell doesn't tell people what he's planning to do, then

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Speaker 1: the Rappapors and the shepherds of the world don't really

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Speaker 1: get Hey, expect this on a certain date. They get

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Speaker 1: the news first usually, but there's not a lot of Hey,

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Speaker 1: the word is it will come down X date. It

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Speaker 1: made sense, I believed it would be before the start

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Speaker 1: of the new league year, after the combine, once they

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Speaker 1: get back in town all that. So, never really anything

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Speaker 1: to worry about on this in terms of what he brings,

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Speaker 1: in terms of how I expect him to approach it.

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Speaker 1: This is a case, Brian, where it seems like maybe

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Speaker 1: social media was a real positive in the sense that

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Speaker 1: every time you saw Calvin Ridley talking on social media

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Speaker 1: from the time that trade happened, it was Jaguars positive.

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Speaker 1: During the playoff run, you have heard different things about

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Speaker 1: the kind of shape he's in, So I think Jaguars

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Speaker 1: fans paying attention. Are right to be excited not only

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Speaker 1: And I'm assuming we'll find out more coming days and weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the Jaguars knew to some degree that he was

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Speaker 1: going to be reinstated, or they wouldn't have made that.

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Speaker 1: They didn't know the time. I had a long time

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Speaker 1: scouting buddy telling me, hey, look, nobody makes the deal

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Speaker 1: Timing was the variable there. When would he get back?

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Speaker 1: It became the reason. It would be before the start

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Speaker 1: of the new There was no reason to push it back.

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Speaker 1: You're either going to let him in or you weren't.

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Speaker 1: Because generally speaking, you know, people think of the league

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Speaker 1: like this. The league wants success stories. But so they

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Speaker 1: were not going to further punish the player of the

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Speaker 1: team by dragging this out. You know, if you drag

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Speaker 1: team doesn't know how to draw, you know, what's going

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Speaker 1: so that you can do proper business, especially when it's

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Speaker 1: been a year that he's been suspended punishment serve. Let's

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Speaker 1: and it's what the Jaguars are all about now. Close

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Speaker 1: You know, teams can be active in freedency and active

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Speaker 1: to apply the tag. It's the deadline, but it's not

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Speaker 1: a couple of years, it's going to be about Trevor

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Speaker 1: Who cares about a compensatory pick? Yeah, and it's sometimes

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Speaker 1: hard to tell with box cutter Bill Zach who is

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Speaker 1: getting that. But that's my impression of it. Compensatory picks

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Speaker 1: for people who don't really know how it works. You

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Speaker 1: will get a compensatory pick. Say you lose Joan Taylor

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Speaker 1: and don't pursue any other free agents, then your compensatory

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Speaker 1: formula is such that you probably get a pick at

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Speaker 1: the end of the third round next Yeah. Right, so

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Speaker 1: it's become sort of a big deal. I think people

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Speaker 1: associate compensatory picks with being a good team. My sense

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Speaker 1: is it's a little more of a I don't know

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Speaker 1: that you become a good team because of compensatory picks.

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Speaker 1: I think good teams typically get compensatory picks. If you

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Speaker 1: follow me, it helps with salary cap and roster manager. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you get them because you're performing well and you

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Speaker 1: have drafted and developed. Well, give me a choice. I've

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Speaker 1: always thought the actual selection was a little overrated. And

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Speaker 1: when I say that, I mean you're giving up Juwan

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Speaker 1: Taylor in this scenari I don't know if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: gi up Johan Taylor. But say you give a Juwan

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Speaker 1: Taylor and your reward is a third round pick, Well,

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Speaker 1: if you put both those on the table, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: take Juwan Taylor because you know what the third round pick,

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Speaker 1: because I know what it is. Now, if you're really

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Speaker 1: good drafting, you can turn that into something. But usually

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Speaker 1: you get the third round pick for a player who's

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Speaker 1: been he's and pay like a first round guy. So

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Speaker 1: let's just not do so much celebrating of compensatory picks.

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Speaker 1: The reason they're good is it usually shows you have

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Speaker 1: drafted well and had been in a position to allow

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Speaker 1: don't know if it makes you good. Two quick thoughts

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Speaker 1: on that one. It used to be that compensatory picks

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Speaker 1: were where they were and you had to use them.

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Speaker 1: Now you can trade them right. That gives you a

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Speaker 1: little more flexibility. And Tom Brady was a compensatory pick,

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Speaker 1: so you can find great players. But that speaks to

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Speaker 1: what you were talking about, and that is you have

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Speaker 1: to use them wisely and draft. Well. That'll do it

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Speaker 1: for ozone snapchat snapshot. When we come back, we'll take

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Speaker 1: a quick look at one more piece of business from

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Speaker 1: Indie that kind of poor tends towards Arizona and the

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Speaker 1: NFL owners meetings coming up in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Back after this. To finish up Jags Drive Time, Well,

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Speaker 1: on Jags Drive Time with Brian and John next week

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Speaker 1: started the new league year week after maybe two weeks

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Speaker 1: after owners meetings in Arizona, and I thought it was

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Speaker 1: an interesting conversation that you had on three key issues,

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Speaker 1: and here they are coming up at the owners meetings

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Speaker 1: from the competitory part of me competition committee. That's the

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Speaker 1: viability of that rugby style scrum where you're pushing the

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Speaker 1: quarterback from behind the emergency quarterback as we found out

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Speaker 1: during that playoff game in between Buffalo and Miami and

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Speaker 1: and of course San Francisco as well. And then the

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Speaker 1: roughing review. These are three issues. Did you get any

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Speaker 1: sense talking to people last week on where these are

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Speaker 1: going to come out. Yeah, well a little bit. The

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Speaker 1: rugby south scrum is it is the Eagles player pushed

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. I'm surprised that it hasn't come to this already.

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Speaker 1: It used to be you couldn't push from behind right,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden that rule went away

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Speaker 1: one year and I wasn't even aware that he'd gone away,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you saw people doing it.

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Speaker 1: I think the league will do something to prevent that

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Speaker 1: because of the potential for injury. It's not as extreme

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Speaker 1: as the onside kick with collision, but they don't like

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Speaker 1: when you set up a Basically the way to stop

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Speaker 1: a rugby style strum is to get a bunch of

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Speaker 1: people on the other side and have high contact. They

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Speaker 1: won't like that for a safety issue more than anything else,

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Speaker 1: I think, so I'd be surprised if that lasts much longer.

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Speaker 1: The emergency quarterback, I think there's a big sentiment where, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was a little bit of complaining after that, but

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Speaker 1: you can keep a third quarterback if you want so.

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Speaker 1: Shame on the forty nine ers for not having it,

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Speaker 1: and I don't mean to throw them out as the

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Speaker 1: only team that does that, but if you don't recall

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Speaker 1: in the AFC part of the NFC Championship game they

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Speaker 1: were down too, they couldn't do anything right, But okay,

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Speaker 1: third quarterback got hurt. So now you're making a rule

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Speaker 1: to protect teams from themselves. Yeah, I think most people

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Speaker 1: in the league would say, we have the ability to

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Speaker 1: keep a third, let's just do it. And then the

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Speaker 1: last one, the roughing the pastor I think it's the

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure who proposed it, but there's a pose

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Speaker 1: on the table and make roughing the past the reviewable.

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Speaker 1: Kansas City was hit on that after the Chris Jones play.

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's as pointless as making past

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Speaker 1: interference reviewable because they did a couple of years back,

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Speaker 1: and it still comes down to judgment somewhere. You're moving

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Speaker 1: judgment on the field to the booth. Somebody's still going

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Speaker 1: to make a call on it. So I didn't sense

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Speaker 1: that there's very much movement once you get that into

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Speaker 1: competition committee. Teams sometimes push for things where the competition

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Speaker 1: committee are people who deal with rules all the time

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Speaker 1: and they know how it really plays out. If you

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Speaker 1: make that rule, review will meaning ref in the pastor

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Speaker 1: you are not going to solve the controversy issues, and

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Speaker 1: you're not any closer to actually getting it right because

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Speaker 1: you still have somebody in the booth trying to make

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Speaker 1: a decision that's a judgment call, So I doubt that

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Speaker 1: gets changed. Things to follow from the owners meetings coming

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Speaker 1: up at the tail end of March. That'll do it

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Speaker 1: for Jags Drivetime on a Tuesday morning. Happy Hour comes

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Speaker 1: your way on Thursday at four o'clock with J. P.

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Speaker 1: Shadwick and Jeff Loghman. Have a great day, everybody,