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Speaker 1: Welcome to the final postgame edition of From the Podium

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Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty four regular season. I'm Gabe Klea.

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Speaker 1: The Browns dropped their Week eighteen matchup with the Baltimore

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Speaker 1: Ravens by a score of thirty five to ten. On

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Speaker 1: this episode, you'll hear from head coach Kevin Stefanski, quarterback

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Speaker 1: Bailey Zappi, and defensive end Miles Garrett. Up first is

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Speaker 1: head coach Kevin Stefanski, who gave his thoughts on the loss.

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Speaker 2: Okay, mj has an ankle injury. Uh, Mike Hall has

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Speaker 2: a knee injury. Won't know about that one until the

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Speaker 2: morning when we get in an MRI. Obviously disappointed in

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Speaker 2: the outcome, really proud of a bunch of guys that

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Speaker 2: were putting some spots to go battle, and they they

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Speaker 2: did battle, but ultimately certainly not good enough when when

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Speaker 2: you don't come away with a win. But with that,

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Speaker 2: I'll take any questions we guys, Yeah, disappointed to lose Mike.

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Speaker 2: He was playing well, Mary Kay, he was playing for physical.

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Speaker 2: I thought his athleticism showed up a few times. So

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Speaker 2: we'll see what the MRI says. But disappointed for him

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Speaker 2: for sure you possession?

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Speaker 3: Was that planned or did you change your mind?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: That was really I wanted to get him in there

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Speaker 2: and then make him. Uh my decision based on how

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Speaker 2: the game was going.

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Speaker 5: How would you where you see it?

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Speaker 4: Just judge with everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously made a poor decision there and the interception

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Speaker 2: that turned into a six points for them. I thought

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Speaker 2: he bounced back for for the most part and made

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Speaker 2: some some good throws.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Obviously have to learn from all these games, learn from

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Speaker 2: all these reps.

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Speaker 5: Ken, are you in some ways? What did you just

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Speaker 5: close the fourteen seas?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Uh, ask me that tomorrow morning, Mary Kay, I think

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Speaker 2: for I'll I'll do some reflecting uh tomorrow morning, but

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Speaker 2: for now, kind of just thinking about that game, Kevin

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Speaker 2: and I will answer it tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: On Uh you you find supplied and how the team

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Speaker 3: you do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we we respect this game too much. I respect

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Speaker 2: this game too much. These players do.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It's a privilege to play, it's a privilege to coach.

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Speaker 2: So if they're keeping score, we're gonna battle, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: compete to the end. Understand that that ultimately we came

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Speaker 2: up short in this game. Uh, And that's the frustrating part,

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Speaker 2: but we're gonna battle, how about.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Obviously Jerry UH made some big plays for US towards

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Speaker 2: the end there, UH to move the football.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, I thought his getting that record is indicative

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Speaker 2: of his play this season. Really, he he deserved it.

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Speaker 2: I thought they were battling. We put him in some

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Speaker 2: really tough spots. UH didn't do a great job on

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Speaker 2: uh in the team's units a couple of times there

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Speaker 2: where we they got the ball and plus territory we

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Speaker 2: had turn around downs, they got the ball and plus

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Speaker 2: terror toy, So UH did not put them in some

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Speaker 2: advantageous field positions. But I thought they battled out there. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was hoping that being a win, that we could

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Speaker 2: be able to do something like that. But I just

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Speaker 2: want to recognize Rodney. I think you guys know how

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Speaker 2: this team feels about him, talked about how I feel

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Speaker 2: about him. Uh, he's gonna be His leadership will be missed,

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Speaker 2: his play will be missed. He played really good football

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Speaker 2: for US, but an incredible career.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I think he's got big things coming up as well.

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Speaker 5: And I asked you already about UH, you know, how

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Speaker 5: much do you hope that Joel comes.

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Speaker 2: Back, you guys, Yeah, those are those are the type

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Speaker 2: of conversations we'll have. And and certainly I respect uh

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Speaker 2: Joel and and his decisions. He's playing at an extremely

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Speaker 2: high level. I mean he played every play.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna probably go down and have the most plays

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Speaker 2: in in the NFL this year, which is no small

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Speaker 2: feet when you play in the middle of a of

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Speaker 6: Miles, Uh, one.

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Speaker 5: Of his maybe a sack, pull a little bit and

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Speaker 5: make sure he's gonna get the title.

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Speaker 2: Came close a.

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Speaker 5: Couple of times.

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Speaker 2: But obvious, Yeah, obviously, as you guys know, the Lamar

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Speaker 2: is a very difficult quarterback to sack. Uh, but Miles

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Speaker 2: battled played the run. Uh was chasing him. Uh, but battled.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of that, do you think you guys did a

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Speaker 6: pretty good job on the more you will only completed at.

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Speaker 5: His passes and two or something.

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Speaker 2: I I think when when you're gone up against the

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Speaker 2: player of his caliber, you have to try to limit him,

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Speaker 2: try and slow him down.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: There's certainly some plays that he made, Uh, especially on

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Speaker 2: third down. I thought escaping and making a few plays

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Speaker 2: to get the ball down the field. It's a it's

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Speaker 2: a challenge cause it's uh, it's a challenge when he's

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Speaker 2: making the throws from the pocket. It's a challenge when

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Speaker 2: you have to defend uh for the duration of the

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Speaker 2: down with his ability.

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Speaker 5: To move in the times guy's open pass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he settled in there, uh a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I thought, you know, first play the game, made a

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Speaker 2: really nice throw. It was a good read exactly what

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Speaker 2: he's supposed to do. So, uh, there were some moments,

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Speaker 2: but all of these moments he has to learn from.

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Speaker 1: Up next to his quarterback. Bailey's happy.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 7: Kevin said that, you know, he kind of decided on

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Speaker 7: juting rotation. You know, given more time at the game

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Speaker 7: went along, did you kind of have a sense of what, uh,

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Speaker 7: what's the vibe you do have to he just kind

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Speaker 7: of stay ready for whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he told us during the week that

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Speaker 4: both of us were gonna play at some point in time.

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Speaker 4: He didn't know exactly when it was gonna happen. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: there was a string there where we were moving the

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Speaker 4: ball really well. We're playing role as offense, so I'm

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Speaker 4: sure he didn't wanna like mess up the rhythm. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was on He was honest with both of us,

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Speaker 4: that both of us were gonna play, and that he

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Speaker 4: didn't know how the game was obviously gonna go, and

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Speaker 6: Did it take you to have to feel comfortable seemed

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Speaker 6: like to be got more rhythm, comfort and suffer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean i've you know, you think

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Speaker 4: about it. I haven't played meaningful, meaningful football in a

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Speaker 4: year to this day, you know, last year at Week eighteen.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's not an excuse like you said, I

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Speaker 4: think you know, the first interception that's terrible. I mean

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Speaker 4: it's bad ball. You know, it's something that you look

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Speaker 4: at and you just kind of, you know, why did

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Speaker 4: you make that decision? It's you know, it's Tampa. Why

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Speaker 4: are you going to cloud corner? I mean I was

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Speaker 4: first day of rook comunic camp and Bill Belichick told

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Speaker 4: me that never do that, and I did it, and

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Speaker 4: it's just terrible ball. After that, you know, settled in,

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, all as the offense as a

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Speaker 4: kind of shot ourselves on the foot again. And then

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Speaker 4: the last interception there is just you know, miscommunication that

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Speaker 4: you know just can't happen. And obviously you know it's

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Speaker 4: just power football.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna be a free playoffs, you know, like the grounds.

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Speaker 3: What do you think that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'd love to be here. You know, personally,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if there's anything setting stone. I mean

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Speaker 4: maybe my agent does, but I don't. You know, I

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Speaker 4: like to say that I can be a starter in

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Speaker 4: this league, but you know, you kind of look back

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Speaker 4: at this game. There's decisions that that can't be made

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Speaker 4: in order for me to be a starter. You know,

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Speaker 4: the two turnovers can't happen. If I wanna be a

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Speaker 4: start in this league, that can happen, as simple as that.

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Speaker 4: I'd love to be here. I'd love to play here.

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Speaker 4: You know, I've made great relationships here. I n believe

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Speaker 4: I can win games here like I have in the past.

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Speaker 4: So just gotta look back at this game and get

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Speaker 4: us to coach Sfanski and learn from it.

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Speaker 5: Have you think as a jug getting the record yet?

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Speaker 4: I have not? Oh he got it? Well that's one

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Speaker 4: positive drive.

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Speaker 5: Perfect You guys know that that was the thing, the

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if we were just like, hey,

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Speaker 4: let's get Judy the balls. Just for the record, he's

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Speaker 4: a v very dynamic football player obviously. Uh So getting

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Speaker 4: positive for us. You know, we threw the little flat

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Speaker 4: So I always getting the ball in his hands where

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Speaker 4: is you know, something that he's best at. So I

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Speaker 4: think going into that last drive, he just wanted to

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Speaker 5: Kind of put himself on the airf on that is

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Speaker 5: you're sort of the the mm uh number one type

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Speaker 4: And then he's have to be games a hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: I think he's a number one for every team in

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Speaker 4: this league. He's one of the best receivers throughout the

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Speaker 4: entire league. And I think he's showing that the last

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Speaker 4: wherever ten eleven weeks that you know, the finish the

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Speaker 4: always asking us questions quarterback room of how he can

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Speaker 4: man and I think that's a mismatching no matter who's

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Speaker 4: sure carrying over into the future, he's and then keep

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Speaker 5: And then also, uh, Joe Batonio has thought about maybe

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Speaker 5: returning after this season. What have you see him just

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Speaker 5: the brief time that you've seen him over there playing?

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Speaker 4: What? Alright? Yeah, I mean he's first off, he's a

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Speaker 4: unbelievable player on the field. To play as long as

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Speaker 4: is phenomenal. I mean, he's unreal. And then off the field, Uh,

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Speaker 4: he wocome me with open arms when I came here.

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Speaker 4: You know, he was one of the first guys to

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Speaker 4: eat lunch with me and as well as a new guy,

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Speaker 4: and I was kind of like a new kid at

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Speaker 4: you know, if he retires, obviously that's his decision. But

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna beg him not to retire cause obviously

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Speaker 4: but I know father Tom catchers up to everybody, so

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Speaker 4: I just think I see the vision of what Stefanski

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Speaker 4: I think this year just it just a cuminative things

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Speaker 2: What do you know with Sean how much would you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the Shawn's a great player. That's the

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Speaker 6: All, is you sort of reflect back in the moment,

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Speaker 6: Is this in some way in many ways a tougher

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Speaker 6: of think of everything and you expectation where this organization

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Speaker 5: Since you have twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 3: To humble, it's probably more disappointing season. Yeah, because you

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Speaker 3: know what we expected of ourselves, what we had built

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a control except last weekend. It's the most frustrating

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Speaker 5: just because the hope were so high, spectations were so high.

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Speaker 3: So do you kind of feel that same way about Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Bobs.

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Speaker 7: There was all you know for the past to report that,

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Speaker 7: Uh you'd already conspoken through an office about you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean I've got any conversations about no, any of

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Speaker 3: and all that. But that that was the first thing

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Speaker 7: And mindless.

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Speaker 5: When you look at you guys versus the RADS, AFC

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Speaker 3: Up their air force?

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Speaker 7: But do you feel like you're that far away from them.

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Speaker 5: Or that you can close the gap and pass.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we can be better next season.

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Speaker 6: We played tonight with that skeleton crew. I mean there

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Speaker 6: Five or six first or second year players out there

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Speaker 5: Does that give you more confidence about what this?

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Speaker 6: You know, the the help with you guys can turn

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Speaker 3: So the young guys specifically, Yeah, I mean it's a

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Speaker 3: We just have to continue to add onto that you've seen.

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Speaker 5: I don't know you've seen more some or that you

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Speaker 3: But you sold see we lost. The season's over. I

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Speaker 3: don't expect to be happy. You shouldn't expect me to

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Speaker 5: Oh, I just you just seem like really.

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Speaker 7: Or what the what point do you you look?

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Speaker 5: How much are you looking forward to having a conversation.

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Speaker 6: That you want to have fun?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just a conversation, Ken say, I'm looking forward and

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Speaker 3: I look him forward to it that's just what's you

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Speaker 3: know next for for us, you know, as players, as

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Speaker 3: We'll hold outside of those conversations, what what's next?

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Speaker 6: Were you specifically, you know in terms of recovering from

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Speaker 5: The next the next season and you know the next.

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Speaker 3: definitely got some uh recovering to do. You know, it

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Speaker 3: was a tough game. Yeah, I feel like, uh mentally

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Speaker 3: I don't just don't got to use this time that

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Speaker 5: Welans obviously UH can ended the game tired with training

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Speaker 5: of you, how do you feel about you got there?

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Speaker 5: Almost had there.

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Speaker 7: A couple times for you which when you when you

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about.

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Speaker 5: Where you stand with your old work now?

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Speaker 3: It's never enough?

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Speaker 7: Cause when you said that the season was was a

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Speaker 7: much dispointed once that you could hear. Was it just

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Speaker 7: cause the expectations were how.

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Speaker 2: Did you get it to be as?

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Speaker 7: Rights do you want?

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Speaker 5: Do you feel like, uh, you you know you're gonna

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Speaker 5: he's good, he needs like just to show out for

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Speaker 5: Do you feel like that is what it's gonna be

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Speaker 5: like for you? Thing you're going to have to doe

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Speaker 5: you across your season, make sure your body feels good,

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Speaker 3: I think that's the best way to to uh, you know,

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Speaker 7: It's safe to say that an extensions with Hinge on

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Speaker 3: I mean, there'll be something coming that'll do it.

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