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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at advocateslaw dot com.

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Speaker 2: Zach is on the phone today for a first day

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Kylie.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call her and see

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Speaker 2: if she'll tell us why she's ghosting and maybe get

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Speaker 2: him a second date. But first, Zach, how long has

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Speaker 2: it been since you heard from Kylie?

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's been eleven days.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll tell us a little bit about it.

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Speaker 2: How many times you try to reach out to her?

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Speaker 3: Probably I think four?

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Speaker 4: Now, Oh, okay, when was the last time you hit

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Speaker 4: her up?

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Speaker 3: It was, uh this morning?

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Speaker 5: Actually, okay, we're trying to understand.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it was like four text messages or phone calls.

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Speaker 6: I started off with just like a you know, like

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Speaker 6: a funne up text message the next day, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, thanking her for a fun night, and then you reply,

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Speaker 3: I spend.

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Speaker 6: I waited a few days, yeah, and then this morning

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Speaker 6: I did a little See now that I'm thinking about it,

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Speaker 6: it sounds like totally a fault and it sounded.

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Speaker 3: Weird, But I played a little.

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Speaker 6: Jazz riff on my harmonica as a voice note and

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Speaker 6: sent it to her this morning.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like you like her and that you're making

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Speaker 4: effort to get a hold of her. So now we

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Speaker 4: just got to figure out why she's not into it.

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Speaker 5: Tell us about the day.

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Speaker 6: Sure, So we went to this rooftop jazz night, hence

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Speaker 6: my harmonica thing this sent this morning. You know, jazz

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Speaker 6: is kind of a gambled probably, but she told me

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Speaker 6: she likes vibes, so I felt like that seemed fitting,

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Speaker 6: you know, Okay, yeah, and we had a we had

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Speaker 6: a great time. She she completely dug it. Uh, I'm

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Speaker 6: really into jazz, so I enjoyed it in her company,

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Speaker 6: and then we grabbed some some tacos after. It just

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Speaker 6: was it sounds like a movie because we like, saund

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Speaker 6: on this curb and we're talking to each other with

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Speaker 6: these tacos in her hands and the moon was out.

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Speaker 6: There's like hot sauce on our fingers. Woman, and then

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Speaker 6: she had, you know, she had this this wild laugh.

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Speaker 6: It was just made me laugh. Every time she laughed,

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Speaker 6: it would make me laugh because the way she laughed,

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Speaker 6: and uh, I don't know, she didn't the weird stuff

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Speaker 6: like I am, like I collect old cereal boxes, vintage boxes.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's cool.

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Speaker 6: You know, some people collect like old matel toys, and

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Speaker 6: we're like lunch boxes.

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Speaker 3: I just don't happened to as a kid. For some reason,

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Speaker 6: A little collection, and then years later, like I had

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Speaker 6: these really cool old cereal boxes, you know.

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Speaker 3: Because which could be weird.

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Speaker 6: I'm obviously in the grown adult male and collect cereal boxes.

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Speaker 3: But she thought that was really cool.

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Speaker 6: She was like respect, you know, and she would ask

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Speaker 6: me about it, and I showed her pixres and I

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Speaker 6: was like, well, you know, she just made me feel

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Speaker 6: good when we kissed also, and it was this for

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Speaker 6: me at least, this adorable moment because we were both

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Speaker 6: kind of awkward, but not not in a bad way,

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Speaker 6: like it was a kiss, but just like we were

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Speaker 6: it up, you know, Like it wasn't lustful, it was

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Speaker 6: it was just like everything.

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Speaker 3: Was like sweet and I felt like romantic.

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Speaker 7: I like her, And you sound like a hopeless romantic.

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Speaker 5: Why do you think you're getting ghosted one?

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Speaker 6: I'm thinking maybe sometimes obviously women will love romance in

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Speaker 6: the long run, but sometimes at first it can be

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Speaker 6: a little bit of a turn off. I'm not exactly

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Speaker 6: three in one shampoo.

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Speaker 5: Okay does she know this?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I mean we talked about it because she actually

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Speaker 6: mentioned her ex just briefly, about how he would like

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Speaker 6: moisture his elbows, and she she like likes it when

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh, you know is She pointed out,

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Speaker 6: I don't work alone either, And I made some little

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Speaker 4: Cented Okay, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what that

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Speaker 5: We'll find out for you though.

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Speaker 2: We'll play a song come back, and then call her

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Speaker 2: and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you.

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Speaker 5: And maybe get you a second date.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, sounds good.

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Speaker 5: All right, we'll get your first day follow up, next first.

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Speaker 1: Date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at advocateslaw dot com.

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Speaker 2: Right in the middle Today's first day follow up, and

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Speaker 2: if you're just joining us, Zach Is on the phone,

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Speaker 2: and he's getting ghosted by Kylie. So we're about to

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Speaker 2: call her and see if she'll tell us why she's

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Speaker 2: ghosting him and maybe get him a second date. But

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Speaker 2: before we do that, Zach, why don't you break down

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Speaker 2: your date for us one more time?

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Speaker 3: Sure went to a cool jazz place.

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Speaker 6: It was the vibe that what I thought was very

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Speaker 6: romantic moments had tacos on a curb, talked about each other, laughed,

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Speaker 6: felt comfortable, kissed awkwardly but in a sweet way. And

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Speaker 6: I've been trying to reach out a few times. It's

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Speaker 6: kind of romantic, sweet intentions and maybe maybe a little

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Speaker 6: too much.

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Speaker 3: I guess. Okay, I'm the wife.

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Speaker 5: Ready for us to call her.

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Speaker 3: Jeez, Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, man, I speak to Kylie please.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is kind of Kylie. How are you? This

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Speaker 5: is the Jubil Show. It's a radio show.

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Speaker 7: What's up, Kylie? My name is Nina.

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Speaker 5: Hi, I'm Victoria and my name's Jubel. How are you?

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Speaker 8: I actually like listen to you guys sometimes.

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Speaker 5: Oh cool, I'm sweet. Well, guess what, Kylie? We got

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Speaker 5: to email about you from somebody an email. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We do a segment on the show called the First

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Speaker 2: Day follow Up. That's where if you go on a

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Speaker 2: date with somebody and you end up ghosting them, they

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Speaker 2: can email us to get you on the phone and

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Speaker 2: ask why you're ghosting. And we got to email about

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Speaker 2: you from somebody.

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Speaker 7: Oh god, do you know who that could be?

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Speaker 9: I think I know it's Zach, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yes, it is Zach. He said he actually reached out

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Speaker 5: to you today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 9: I know. I've been getting the messages.

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Speaker 7: Okay, and you're not responding to them.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I don't.

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Speaker 9: I don't want to be an app but yeah, like

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Speaker 9: I ghosted him. I'm not like trying to hide that

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Speaker 5: Can you tell us why you're ghosting him?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: So we went out and we went to like this

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Speaker 8: and then we like grabbed some tacos afterwards, and everything

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Speaker 9: And starts like drawing, and I'm like, yeah, out of nowhere,

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Speaker 9: But like the way that he drew me, I kind

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Speaker 4: Awkward because he drew a melted picture of you.

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Speaker 7: You think he called you ugly?

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Speaker 10: No, no, because when I made fun of the drawing,

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Speaker 9: And he just kept going and going saying things like that,

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Speaker 2: Because he's not good at drawing, or you're just saying.

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Speaker 11: If I think, like attraction is a big thing, you know,

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Speaker 3: Can I go with you?

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Speaker 9: I don't want to relationship.

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Speaker 6: I was just trying to be I guess in my

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Speaker 3: It's like I draw abstract art all the time.

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Speaker 6: I was trying to say that that I like you

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Speaker 7: Are you attracted to Kylie Zach thousand percent? Okay? That

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, that is crazy. I had no idea

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Speaker 3: In the moment. It was like some emotional realism sketch

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Speaker 9: I was trying, well, do you think I'm like emotional person,

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Speaker 6: Like, look, if you saw some of the things that

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Speaker 6: on a napkin. It was terrible, bad choice. I think

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Speaker 9: What like that is not helping things at all. Like

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Speaker 9: now you're saying that I'm attracted but like a crazy person.

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Speaker 3: Like no, I'm not saying that we're all hurt little

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Speaker 6: Oh k, I'm I'm trying to say, as I see

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Speaker 6: Kylie, just because I think you're a beautiful person on

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Speaker 6: the inside doesn't mean I don't think you're beautiful on

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Speaker 6: the outside.

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Speaker 3: I think you're gorgeous.

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Speaker 6: I want you inside and out.

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Speaker 2: Hey, in that case, Kylie, would you like another date

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Speaker 2: with Zach? Will pay for it?

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Speaker 9: Cool? I mean, I think like understanding and how it's

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Speaker 9: just kind of cute. But he talks a little two months,

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Speaker 9: you know, and the way he explains saves is a

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Speaker 9: little unique. But like now, I think I understand that,

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Speaker 9: you know, if he's nervous, and it's kind of cute, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like he really likes you, So I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think that's cute.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I say, I think, all right, fantastic.

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Speaker 6: I actually already have a spot that I'm saying about.

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Speaker 3: So thank you, Thank you, Kylie. And I promise if

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Speaker 3: I draw you again, I'm gonna go for realism.

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Speaker 6: I think this is the beginning of your healing journey, Kylie,

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Speaker 6: and I'm I'm glad to walk the path with you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, congratulations.

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