WEBVTT - Desperately Devoted to Richard Burgi aka Karl Mayer 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:04.600 Hi, Welcome to Desperately Devoted. 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:08.280 The Ultimate Desperate Housewives rewatch, hosted by me, Terry Hatcher, 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.560 my on screen daughter Andrea Bowen, and my real life 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:17.600 daughter Emerson Tenney. Today we are talking to the amazing 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:21.360 Richard Burbie. The heart wants what the heart wants, and 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:24.600 we know your heart wants to hear about Karl Meyer, 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:27.840 as you, of course remember him. We have the honor 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.800 of catching up with what he's into these days and 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:33.919 learning which character he almost played on the show and 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.440 where his favorite place on Wisteria Lane was to hang out. 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.000 His answer makes me blush just a little. Let's jump in. 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:45.640 Welcome to Desperately Devoted, our little rewatch podcast that we've 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:47.800 got going. We're so glad to have you here. We 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:51.680 really have been having such a great time actually revisiting 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:57.000 the show ourselves and revisiting it with cast members. Have 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:00.840 have you just you haven't seen it recently? Right? Or 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:01.600 have you? 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.240 I don't have a TV and I am rarely am 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:04.920 on my computer. 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:08.760 Oh right, that's amazing. Now, Okay, I'm going to jump 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:10.759 to a question that I was going to ask you later, 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:15.120 because sometimes we do ask people, are you desperately devoted 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.880 to anything. But I seem to recall you being desperately 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.280 devoted to surfing. Is that what you're still doing, and 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:24.200 why you don't have a TV and why you don't 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:24.840 have a computer. 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:28.520 Well, you know, I was just up in Nova Scotia. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.640 My son lives up there, my firstborn. He's twenty nine. 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.000 We went surfing the other day in Nova Scotia and 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:36.800 I hadn't served since I was dating this gall in Florida, 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:37.920 so it was about a year ago. 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.320 So but I'm back in Jersey. 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.280 So I'm devoted to, you know, my trees and mother 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:47.080 nature and trails and streams. And I got my girlfriend 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:50.320 in the back, this beautiful stream. Well I fall asleep 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:52.560 with every night and have my coffee with in the morning. 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.560 And she's lovely and she's connect to a beautiful ecosystem. 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:57.080 There's like in a little place. 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.760 I took my nephew's fishing there the other day, and 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.200 I you know, I jump in and slowly, slowly, so 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.000 I'm a fresh one most of the time. But I'll 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:06.880 have to do the hours slept down in the Jersey 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.480 shore and it's not like California surfing. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:11.640 So oh yeah, the Atlantic's different. 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.960 Being devoted to nature is something I can totally relate to. 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.600 You know, that's there's just nothing better. But I actually 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.359 remember being on the set of Desperate House with you, 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.280 and I don't know why, but you were telling I. 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.800 Maybe it was when I was training for the triathlons 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.600 that I used to do out in Malibu, and I 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.160 was probably telling you about how I was afraid of 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.960 great white sharks. And I remember you telling me about 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.280 all the times that you would be sitting on your 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.280 surfboard out in the ocean and that you saw them 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.960 swimming around and that I shouldn't be afraid. Is that 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.560 still true? I remember that correctly. Did we have? 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:49.520 Yeah? 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.080 I wanted to take you out. We never was able 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.560 to do that for some reason. Right, you just kept 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:58.960 dodging me. You had bigger You've had bigger fish on 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:00.160 the line. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:01.800 It's never too late. I think you got to get 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:02.280 her out there. 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.080 But you have to come back to the Pacific Ocean. 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:05.440 Do you know? 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.239 It's funny. A place that I love in the world, 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:12.679 which is just across the pond from Nova Scotia, is Cornwall, England. 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:14.720 And have you ever been there? 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.320 I've seen pictures, but I've been to England. I'm going 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:19.480 to Ireland for Thanksgiving. 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.880 Okay, Well, Cornwall, England is probably one of my favorite 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.360 places in the world, if not the favorite place. But 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.760 I have taken surfing lessons there and they, yeah, I 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.799 have a picture of me actually up on a surfboards. 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.320 The water's quite cold, as I would imagine it is 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.400 in Nova Scotia. But who cares you wear wetsuits? 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:40.680 Not like Cornwall. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:44.320 But oh okay, no, because it's like, you know, it's 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.640 still kind of end of summer up there. We were overdressed. 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.680 My son gave me a full HOODI and was way 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:50.280 over dressed. 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:54.480 Okay, but surfing is a great is Did you have 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:56.440 a full hoodie? No, I didn't. I don't you know, 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.480 I don't think so. I think I just had like 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.920 a pretty like a what's a thick one five millimeter? 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:02.640 Yeah? Five six six? 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:04.960 Yeah, I think I think I had a pretty thick. 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.560 They don't even know what we're talking about. I think 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:11.440 this is where you go, get a room. Get a room, 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:12.880 Richard and Terry, just get a room. 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.760 A hoodie wet suit would scare me if I were 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.760 someone really afraid of the sharks. I feel like I 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.440 would look even more like a seal. 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:24.920 Yes, well that has crossed my mind. 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:28.320 But a surf maker had actually thought about putting like 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.359 some kevlar and embedded, so it would make if you 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.000 did get chopped, it would make it harder for the 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:33.640 sharks to eat. 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:35.080 Well, that's good. 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:36.880 I think that's a good advancement. 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:38.680 I think it sounds like the two of you are 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.520 prepared to go on your next surfing trip together, and 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:42.919 please send me pictures. 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:44.800 Okay, I will wave. 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.719 Wait do you still have your Bookswagon Bus? 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.920 I absolutely do. I still do. In fact, oh see, 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.080 you would love this because you appreciate stuff like this. 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.840 I put solar panels in the top of it so 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:59.200 that when I the solar panels don't run the engine. 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:02.440 But when I get somewhere I can be completely like 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.560 off the grid with my solar panels running, like you know, 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.360 my refrigerator and whatever electricity I would need. So it's 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.960 it is still as I said to my daughter on 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.320 our first camping trip in it when she was six 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.240 years old. We went up to like big sur and 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.880 I remember just feeling like this is this is all 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:25.839 we need? Like I said that, Yeah you did, No, 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:27.400 you did say that to me. But I mean you 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:28.600 have always told. 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:33.520 Me the story that Mom, this is all I need. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.720 No, the bathroom is like a kitty litter box. Basically, 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:38.720 it's like a stool that you open up with like 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.720 litter in it. I mean, wow, you said that's all 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:43.719 you need. Wow. Wow. 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.719 Okay, you know what, we have different needs. It might 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:50.080 be mildly less true today, but not far off. 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:54.159 I think being a minial minimalist is very advantageous. So 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:58.240 I like that about myself. So okay, back to Desperate Housewives. 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.599 So you haven't seen it, then it's what discovering. Nor 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:05.440 had we and I'm really I think one of the 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.720 things that has popped us off to us in these 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.760 first ten twelve episodes is first of all, just what 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:17.919 a magical place with steria Lane was in itself, but secondly, 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:23.920 like just how great everyone was and is, and specifically you, Richard. 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:29.520 I mean, I think we have to start thank you, yes, yes, yes, 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.680 wild applause from the audience from all the fans. I 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.919 think we have to start with the heart wants. What 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:40.160 the heart wants? You must recall that. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.360 Oh so well, yeah, you know I had this whole 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.400 interesting thing going in because you know, I originally tested 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.040 from not tested, but I met Mark and the other 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:53.840 fella who the director to Charles Plumber. Yeah, and Jamie 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:57.280 had a contract with ABC and he's much more handsman talented, 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:58.839 so he got the Plumber. So I had to do 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.040 another show and then I came back and I had 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.599 this whole different thing going, and so I just had 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.880 you know, I don't know, it was just in this 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:11.320 open space and so, yeah, that was such a fun 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.120 line to chew you interesting. 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.679 So because we were going to ask about your casting story, 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.360 because we're finding it really fun to hear about how 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.280 everyone ended up on the show. And one of my 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.160 questions for you was, had you auditioned for any of 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.080 the other male roles on the show? 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:31.560 And you I originally I auditioned for the Plumber. 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.720 Then I thought it was disaster because Mark and Charles 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.120 were fighting, and I found this idea, like the name. 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.200 And then my manager at. 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.280 The time told me that ABC was was honoring Jamie's 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.600 contract and he was the first pick, and he was terrific. 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:53.560 Jamie's a sweetheart and he's good, and so he got 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:58.600 the job. I was offered a showdown in San Diego, 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.560 which only lasted. I don't know, like eleven or fifteen 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.760 episodes or something, but it was like my favorite show 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.880 because I could surf on the way. 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:09.679 Going to San Diego is really groovy. Have you Terry, 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:10.280 have you surf? 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.000 Sorryle Many like Santa No Frey, have you been down 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:14.600 I have not. 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:16.240 I mean I have been down there because. 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:18.040 I told you I was going to take you down there. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.760 Now I know, I know, We're not too late. 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:22.160 It's not too late. 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.600 Well he's in New Jersey now, so it's a little late. 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.120 Plain surf ride. 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.119 I have surfing ocean. 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:34.880 I have never actually surfed the coast of California. So 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.840 the only surfing I've ever done is in Cornwall, which 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.720 I enjoyed, I loved. I would like to again, but no, 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:41.360 I haven't. 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:45.160 I have Like the only time I've served is Wyky Keys. 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:46.680 I have to jump in. 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.800 So the Mike and Carl rivalry was real from the 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.240 very inception of casting. 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:53.800 I guess so I. 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:59.520 Love he always had a hair about me, but it's 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:00.000 not on you. 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.080 So I don't know because I was just in this 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.280 place like I let it all go and I don't care. 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.120 And well, how did Carl come back? And how did 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:11.120 that role come back into your life because the. 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.960 Show ended in San Diego. And then my manager said, hey, 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.760 you know, they got this role coming up. They want 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:19.600 to see if you're interested. And I said, yeah, sure. 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:21.440 I went in an audition with a bunch of guys 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.440 and I you know, I think I had a puff 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.880 and I was just in this really like, oh I 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.240 know who this guy is, and so yeah, I was 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.600 just really in my body and really doing all these. 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:37.640 Like wow, yeah, yes, a physical I want to talk 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:41.120 to you about that. But I wanted to where did 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:45.480 that because that physicalization it has stuck with me of 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:49.360 yours for twenty years, and I remember just being so 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.560 enthralled with it while you were doing it. I mean 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:58.240 it really do you remember why that was a choice 0:09:58.240 --> 0:09:59.439 you made for that character. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:01.280 So yeah, I. 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.360 Felt him to be really self absorbed, and so I 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:09.120 then I put the concept to physicality, like what's in 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:12.960 life and somebody's really self absorbed? And it could you know, uh, 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:17.120 because I'm very tactile as well, like touching things and 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.000 you know, and then I just thought, Okay, what would 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.840 be like to really be self absorbed with myself? 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.360 It's soome and it's so great that you have such 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.480 a good body to be self absorbed with, because you 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:35.080 know everyone else was also self absorbed with your body. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.319 From you know, I come from an area. I'm just 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:39.720 a regular schmuck around here. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:41.400 You know, the people I grew up with, like you 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.160 know so and I spent a lot of time in 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:43.680 locker room. 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.120 So I'm just a regular Joe. 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:49.200 Well, the whole physicality thing, I mean, it's just it's 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:53.280 it's kind of amazing and that I remember even like 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:57.679 when you weren't there, we would be shooting other episodes 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.240 and it would come up with the camera crew, like 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.920 people would say, the heart wants with the heart wants. 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:04.360 You know, It's like, you know, what do you do? 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.240 You guys want to heal after work while the heart 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:07.840 wants with the heart wants, you know, Like we didn't 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:08.680 had a part of. 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.160 The lexicon for the remainder of the shot. It really 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.079 did iconic you doing that once? 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:24.360 Yeah, no, it really did. Do you have any you know? 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.760 This was another thing that I had forgotten and I think, 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.560 I mean, we find as Andrew and I find as 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.320 we watch it, we go like I don't remember shooting 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:35.760 that at all, Like I barely remember shooting anything, And 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:39.240 although I am finding very entertaining, I find it crazy 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.520 that I remember so little. But what I really didn't 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:47.520 remember was that Carl started sleeping with Brie in later 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:54.160 seasons and became her Andrey right, So Carl was just 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:58.959 a massive horror on Is there anyone he didn't sleep with? 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:00.079 Maybe the heart on? 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:06.280 Uh? Well no, I mean, I'll only get going on 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:07.680 somebody I wasn't a lot crazy about. 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.720 However, I'll get to that question. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.840 Do you remember when you said to me one day 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.079 we were like, I just started on. The show is 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.600 a second season, I think towards the end of the first, 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.160 I don't know, and you said to me, you said, 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:21.600 what are we doing? 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:25.760 Are we doing shit? The show hadn't really taken it 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.160 off yet, You're like, well, do we. 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:34.080 That's really funny that you that. I don't actually remember that, 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.080 but I can imagine, you know, some episodes were better 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.000 than other episodes, some writing was better than other writing. 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.240 And I can imagine that I would be the kind 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.840 of person who would just be not like even mean, 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.920 but just sort of like, do you think this is shit? 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:48.120 Or do you think this is good? 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:48.280 Like? 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.520 How are we going to work this out? Richard, like, what, 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:51.920 how are we going to make this as good as 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:52.480 we can make it? 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:52.760 Wait? 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:54.600 And what did you say back? What did you say 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:54.960 to her? 0:12:55.520 --> 0:13:00.120 I really have no idea. I really think I said I. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:01.959 Had no idea, right right? 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:02.480 Maybe? 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:02.840 Maybe not? 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.040 Well, I don't know why, because I never think you know, 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.679 what I do is you know, I got it. 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.840 I never think that like so, which is a nice thing. 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:17.120 You know, keep humble totally, But that's why we have directors. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.000 But man, we are so enjoying watching you. We really are. 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:21.600 Yeah, You're so great in it. 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.360 I'm curious what is your I mean, say, for a 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.280 character like Carl who you were talking about, how he 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.800 feels so sort of self interested and absorbed and then 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:30.920 he goes on to be the kind of horror of 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:34.560 the neighborhood. What is your process as an actor for 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.920 getting into a role like that or a character like that? 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.880 You know, sometimes I know people like I just it 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.360 pops off the page and I, you know, just like 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.240 embody a friend or somebody I've seen, or it's an 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:52.280 amalgam of things, and then the process is sort of 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.160 hate to use the word organic, you know, it's it evolves. 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.600 I did a play in La and it started one 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.000 where and then I like I was that became a 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.200 sort of old Jewish guy who took like this, you know, 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.720 one character, I played two characters, so it's I don't know, 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:11.760 it's sometimes it gets revealed over time. And then like Carl, 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.480 I brought it in and and then I remember Mark, 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.680 I forget what season was. I was like, okay, enough 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.440 with the you know, like he's is. He didn't create it. 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.200 He didn't it wasn't on the page, so he didn't 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:24.800 have the sort. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.920 Of attachment to it. 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.520 Like no, I mean I did. I loved, I loved 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:32.000 all that. 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.040 I loved just doing he asked you to pull that back? 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:36.760 Yeah? 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:47.600 Wow, okay, and did you. 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.800 Sure we'll watch? 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:44.840 So yeah. 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.440 I have this idea in my head that I don't 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.480 know if this is accurate, but maybe you can help 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.880 clue me in if I'm right. I I assume that 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.720 maybe when Carl came to be, they didn't know how 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:57.760 much a part of the show you would be yet, 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.520 and then when you came and were so amazing, and 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.720 you had all these fun ideas and you gave this 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:07.280 character just so much oomph and magic and identity that 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:11.920 maybe they decided to expand on Carl's presence. Am I 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:12.880 right with that assumption? 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:13.880 Do you know anything? 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.600 I think he was just there to punch around for 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.960 a little while and then ended up, you know, being likable, 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.200 and yeah, it happened. 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.880 The last job I had to oh, yeah, well, well 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.240 you are. You are fun to be around and very 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.920 charismatic and likable, and so I can imagine, like why that. 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.160 Expansion back at you? And I you know, look, we're 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.080 like it drives me nuts. Two things drive me nuts. 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.120 So we have what Ward shows, we already got the award, 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:46.360 it's like, why we go. We're so blessed to be 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.520 able to do this and to have like people like Grossman, 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.920 who I was able to do another show with him 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:53.640 or two afterwards, and. 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:56.320 I love that. I just love working in this in 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.560 this place where I'm playing all day and I get 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:04.800 to play with amazing people like you guys. It's so yeah, I'm. 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.880 I feel very grateful, very very blessed about the whole thing. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:10.440 I agree, it's quite a gift. 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.240 You did you have any like stand out I mean, 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:14.960 I know it was a long time ago, but stand 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:19.200 out scenes or moments or things that really have stayed 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:20.160 with you from the show. 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.720 I know this is going to sound strange, and I 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:25.280 really enjoyed being in bed with your mother. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.520 I know what clip we're using on social media for 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:31.160 this interview. 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:36.880 Well I enjoyed that, fan, Yeah, I know. Wow, Oh 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.400 my gosh. 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.560 Well right, I love working with your mom. I love 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.160 working with your mom and people ask me that all 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:45.680 the time. And I had fun with you know, the 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:51.760 other girls down the lane. You're just your mom's pretty 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:52.800 fucking awesome. 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.680 That's you know, that's so sweet. I'm I mean, really, 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.640 it's and you know what. 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:00.600 Honestly, because I'm just tell the truth. 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.160 Well, I love that, and when when I also love 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:08.399 that my daughter's here saying listening to it, because sometimes 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.200 there are people in my life that I'll come across 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:11.920 that will say things to me like that, and I'll say, 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.840 will you just go to my funeral because my daughter's 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:16.679 an only child and there won't be a lot of 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.960 family around here, and be really nice if all these 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.359 people said these things so that my daughter would know 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.000 I was a good person. So Richard, we're putting you 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:30.680 on the funeral list, and you can perfect I love it. 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.679 Can I ask you? Is there this is weird, but 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:37.040 I do kind of I'm interested, what because you're such 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:40.840 a process kind of person. Like my recollection of working 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.760 with you is also that, I mean the same the 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.760 way I like to work is like is it funnier 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:48.879 if I say the line and then sit down, or 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:50.800 is it funnier if I stand up and then say 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:55.239 the line? Like like like really trying to you know, 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.000 finesse the puzzle of the whole thing from a lot 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.879 of different angles of thought. Is there something that you 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:05.600 remember about working with me that was specific. 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:11.840 Just how assiduous you were to the application of the craft, 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.840 of figuring it out of playing, of trying this, trying that, 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.160 being open to like, oh no, let's try it this way, okay, let. 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:23.439 Me do like just being flexible and curious. 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:27.400 Oh I can't think of anything nice to prepare and prepared. 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:28.720 Well that's it. 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:37.119 Well you're getting a big love festivals. 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.360 Prepared to say the same things. I feel the same 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.840 way about how fortunate I was to work with Terry 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:39.960 for all of those years. 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:40.800 Yeah you too. 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:42.400 I mean I was really. 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.840 Ready to tour and role model and a consummate pro 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.399 and somebody's just fun and like, you know, bringing food 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:49.000 to the set. 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:50.800 It's such a sweet gesture. 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.240 I don't know if anyone else did that, but that 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.800 that it just spoke volumes of your character. 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.080 What food did she bring to this out? 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.000 I don't know the story, A cook's and whatever. 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.119 I mean, it was terrible for the teeth and overall health, 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:05.760 but it was a sweet I did bring. 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:08.199 I did were you? Did you have a partake in 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.960 the big tequila bar? Things I would do every Friday 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:12.000 night on the camera truck. 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:14.640