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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks insiders. Gino, look go waying

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Speaker 1: up over the top. Got a man out there.

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Speaker 2: It is fuck he's got a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Sey Hawks getting you ready for Seahawks football Every Sunday, Hurts.

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Speaker 4: Drops back, has time, loads up, throws a J Brown

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Speaker 4: the defense.

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Speaker 2: Step Does he keep it sweet?

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Speaker 3: Him? He does? Stay off ball presented by Delta, the

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Speaker 3: official airline of the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Now here's your host, Jen Mueller.

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Speaker 4: The Seahawks lead start to finish in the game against

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Speaker 4: the Falcons on Sunday. They come out with a win,

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Speaker 4: which makes everything better this week. John Boyle, Yes, yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: I mean I could do with a little bit warmer weather.

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Speaker 4: But it's crisp, it's sunny.

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Speaker 2: It's good.

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Speaker 1: It's a winning late October, and it's not raining. That's

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Speaker 1: a win.

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Speaker 2: That is a good point.

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Speaker 5: Every dry day from here until like May, I'll call

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Speaker 4: That's true, and every game day that is not raining

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Speaker 4: from here on out is really big win in my book.

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Speaker 4: But we had talked so much going into that game

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Speaker 2: The areas of obvious need.

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Speaker 4: For improvement for Seattle. In what way do you think

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Speaker 4: they took care of those issues.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the most obvious one was a turnover differential.

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Speaker 5: They've been struggling there on both sides of it. They've

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Speaker 5: been given it up too much. They've not been getting

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Speaker 5: the takeaways. They're plus three in that game. And we

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Speaker 5: heard players talk about last week like, how do you

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Speaker 5: get more turnovers in a lot? Is like, well, you

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Speaker 5: got to get ahead, so you're putting them in obvious

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Speaker 5: pass situations, you're pass rushing it after it, And that's

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Speaker 5: exactly what happened in that game. So that was the

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Speaker 5: clearest one. The next one that jumped out to me

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the numbers are starkly different, right, which I

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Speaker 2: What I did not do was compare the final numbers.

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Speaker 1: We didn't do the math.

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Speaker 4: I did not do the math. I was told there

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Speaker 4: And I think part of that is and look, there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of different reasons for that. Yes, did they

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Speaker 4: clean up some of that second level stuff, sure they did,

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Speaker 4: but also playing with the lead changes what Atlanta has

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Speaker 5: I mean, but even when they tried to run it

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Speaker 5: But yeahs you got further into the half and the

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Speaker 1: Where you're able to all of a sudden the interceptions come.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, how about Boye saying, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's so nice of him.

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Speaker 4: It was so nice, generous soul, he's I mean, really,

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Speaker 4: So yes, but when you take a look at that

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Speaker 2: I was caught a little bit off guard when Seattle

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I wasn't necessarily expecting it, but you know,

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Speaker 5: we've heard John Schneider say it for basically his whole career.

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Speaker 5: Here is like they they take pride and being in everything.

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Speaker 5: They want to leave no stone unturned. So if they

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Speaker 4: Well, we actually haven't said his name up to this point.

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Speaker 4: Also, as you know, of all the things I'm going

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Speaker 2: Glad that you pointed that one out.

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Speaker 4: Thank you Twitter versus x verse, whatever for pointing that

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Speaker 2: He's a guy the team has had their eye on

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Speaker 5: I like, I like to mention in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 5: So it's not you know, you're not asking t Dot

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Speaker 4: He and Terrell Dodson is still going to wear the

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Speaker 4: the reason you would move him to that spot, Ernest

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Speaker 6: He does a lot of things really well. I think,

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Speaker 5: You gotta cover, you got to be all to blitz,

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Speaker 2: The best quarterback in the league, at least if you're.

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Speaker 4: Looking at interceptions, Yeah, because Josh Allen has zero and

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Speaker 2: Yet, yeah, I would. I'm really upset he's gotten that

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Speaker 4: By the way, those eighteen interceptions last season, that was

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Speaker 4: kind of breaks the NFL in some of those categories.

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Speaker 4: And since then he has changed his approach thanks to

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Speaker 1: Have you seen this?

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Speaker 4: So his coach Sean McDermott met Scotti Scheffler's caddy. Now,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Josh Allen golfing so he can see

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Speaker 4: At the interceptions, that's great, right, you're gonna model what not.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Like you know, I set that up so well,

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Speaker 2: I love this. I love this.

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Speaker 4: John is rendered speechless, absolutely speechless, The look on his

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Speaker 4: Certainly with Amari Cooper that could be going up. I

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Speaker 4: tell you what, why don't we pause right now? Let

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Speaker 7: Thanks Jenn and John. We're a Week eight of fantasy football.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 7: No team's on a bie, but lots of injuries and

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Speaker 7: we tell you how to deal with them. All. We

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Speaker 7: started quarterback Caleb Williams, top five fantasy quarterback for Week

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Speaker 7: eight that matchup against the Washington Commanders. Also at running

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Speaker 7: The Dolphins also ranked twenty sixth in fantasy points per

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Speaker 7: a lineup lock for Week eight. At wide receiver Jayden

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Speaker 7: Past defense. Also for a bounce back week statistically, Courtland Sutton,

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Speaker 7: the second consecutive week, We'd go with Noah Fan at

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Speaker 7: fantasy sleeper from the Seahawks this week, Jake Bobo to

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Speaker 7: Seahawks dot com with his injury reports every day to

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Speaker 7: check in on the status of DK Metcalf. Thanks a

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Speaker 7: in the NFL. Seahawks and Bill should be a fun

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Speaker 2: Yes, have you gathered your thoughts?

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Speaker 1: They are gathered.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I've gathered my thoughts, and I have a thought

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Speaker 1: All right, we're going from golf to kickers.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna go.

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Speaker 4: I just hard pivot right because I just made it

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Speaker 1: Well, Jason Myers a good golfer.

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Speaker 2: Also great kicker. What did he hit from last week?

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Speaker 1: Nine nine miss field goal in Mercedes Benz Stadium.

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Speaker 4: Yes, which also was amazing to me because yung Waiku

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Speaker 2: Like is it the training that's going into it? Is it?

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Speaker 4: It just takes one team to start taking that chance

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a big like I'm sure it's named, but

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Speaker 5: there's a phenomenon in sports of like once certain thresholds

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Speaker 5: plus ardfield goals like their team once you know, first

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Speaker 5: for minute mile is this unreachable thing? And then it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's a few of the numbers.

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Speaker 4: The kickers this year are on pace to make two

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty one field goals from fifty plus That

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Speaker 4: would shatter the record. Listen to this set last year

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Speaker 4: not even close. NFL kickers are hitting seventy six percent

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Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?

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Speaker 4: And then Jason also said, you know, part of this

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Speaker 4: You were getting kids that from you know, fifth grade

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Speaker 5: Although former soccer players work pretty well for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 5: I mean, might be the best kicker in the league.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's true.

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Speaker 4: Also on jury duty currently, So that's bizarre because you

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Speaker 4: a jury Never. I never want to sit.

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Speaker 1: You just you just spoke that right in new existence.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I have to go to work anyway.

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Speaker 4: Look, I don't necessarily want games to come down to

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Speaker 4: Where is Seattle at offensively?

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Speaker 5: You know, I think they're still like this whole team,

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Speaker 4: And look, I always want to see DK out there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we just talked about receivers, but obviously the tight

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, but he couldn't get the run game going.

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Speaker 4: Still very involved. Yeah, in the so I think you know,

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Speaker 4: it's not just a whatch receiver step up. It's maybe

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Speaker 4: you get the running backs more involved, maybe you get

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Speaker 4: more of the tight ends, but they do have a

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Speaker 4: ton of weapons.

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Speaker 1: Or again, you're not.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to say, oh, you just plugged this

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Speaker 5: guy in and it replaces DK METCF because you can't.

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Speaker 5: But I think you've got enough guys to on the

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Speaker 5: aggregate make it work out well.

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Speaker 4: And certainly coming up soon, you were going to have

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Speaker 4: more guys available on the offensive line. At least that

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Speaker 4: is the hope. Mike Durell does a great job last

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Speaker 4: week at right tackle. We'll see what he can do

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Speaker 4: this week. Because I think once you get a little

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Speaker 4: bit of film, now teams have a way to attack you.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, so you also get the confidence of getting

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Speaker 5: that first game belt. I mean, I think he's going

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Speaker 5: to be as much as he said, all the right

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Speaker 5: things and it wasn't too big for him and all that,

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Speaker 5: and he did play well. I'm sure he's going to

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Speaker 5: be a little more calm and comfortable his second time around.

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Speaker 5: Assuming it is him, I guess, you know, there's a

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Speaker 5: chance maybe George fans ready, but sure, yeah, I think

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Speaker 5: most likely we're looking at Mike Durrell, and I think

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Speaker 5: he'll step up the challenge.

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Speaker 4: But there is also signs that Abe Lucas will be

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Speaker 4: rejoining the team at some point. Seeing him back at practice,

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Speaker 4: I mean it's huge. Not only is he physically huge,

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Speaker 4: a large human that would be huge, and it's something

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Speaker 4: that Mike McDonald really likes to see.

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Speaker 6: Just kind of if you take a step back with Abe,

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Speaker 6: all the stuff that he's been through over the last

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Speaker 6: year and working his I mean, this guy's been working

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Speaker 6: his tail off now and it's not easy to kind

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Speaker 6: of be doing your own thing and training and strengthening

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Speaker 6: the leg. I mean, this is a long grind back

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Speaker 6: to where we sit today. So I think he deserves

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Speaker 6: a lot of credit for putting himself in the situation

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Speaker 6: to come back at this point in time and should

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Speaker 6: be really excited to have him out there and doing

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Speaker 6: a thing. Now we're gonna ramp into it and try

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Speaker 6: to be as smart as we can. I think we've

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Speaker 6: got a really good plan. So just happy for him

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Speaker 6: and excited to see him out there.

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Speaker 5: He followed up with that when he was asked about

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Speaker 5: that plan to ramp him up, I said, you know,

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Speaker 5: maybe after the bye is what's realistic.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be a few weeks till we

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Speaker 1: see him.

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Speaker 5: But man, getting a healthy Abe Lucas out Like people

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Speaker 5: forget how good well some do, but he wasn't hisself

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Speaker 5: last year. He was playing through that injury throughout the year,

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Speaker 5: and he still played well when he was out there,

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Speaker 5: but he only played I think six games.

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Speaker 1: But if you go back and watch his rookie.

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Speaker 5: Year when he was out there all year and healthy,

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Speaker 5: I mean, he was a really darn good player. So

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Speaker 5: if they can get back to that guy out there,

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Speaker 5: that's going to help this line so much.

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Speaker 2: The attitude I was about to say, it's.

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Speaker 5: Not just the skill is attack, which he has, and

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Speaker 5: he's a great run blocker and all this things, Like

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Speaker 5: he brings that nastiness a line likes and not that

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Speaker 5: other guys can't.

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Speaker 1: But he's really got He's.

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Speaker 4: Really he really is, which is complete opposite of what

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Speaker 4: he's like in real life.

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Speaker 2: He's a teddy bear. He's awesome. But you get him

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Speaker 2: on game Dan and I'm like, oh.

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Speaker 5: You know who reminds me having that demeanor, not as

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Speaker 5: a player sard, but just demeanor wise.

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Speaker 1: Is Breno.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Breno was just sort of that and he

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Speaker 5: talked to teammate stuff like man, he is just like

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Speaker 5: the enforcer out there, and like, yeah, so he.

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Speaker 2: I think he I think he got enforced a few times.

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Speaker 2: I think there was a few penalties on Reno. I

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Speaker 2: think there was a little fighting, there was a little

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Speaker 2: I think there's a little going on.

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Speaker 1: Well, it brings you that edge.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it would be great to have aid back on

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Speaker 2: the field.

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Speaker 4: But the thing that I take away from Mike McDonald's

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Speaker 4: comment there is that they have a plan. They've always

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Speaker 4: had a plan, right, This is not a surprise. They

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Speaker 4: have always had a plan on when he was going

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Speaker 4: to come back, and so they are just taking the

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Speaker 4: next step in the plan. Indeed, our next step is

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Speaker 4: We're going to get two things that John Boyle needs

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Speaker 4: to see from the Seahawks to get a win on

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Speaker 4: Sunday against the Bills. In just a second, I would

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Speaker 4: say a key to getting a win for any team

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Speaker 4: in the league is to not have played the Lions

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Speaker 4: the week before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. There.

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Speaker 4: The Seahawks did this to teams in the early twelve

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Speaker 4: and thirteen Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: I say this because if you watch.

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Speaker 4: Thursday night football, and I know many of you are

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Speaker 4: listening to this after Thursday Night Football, we will see

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Speaker 4: if the trend continues.

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Speaker 1: Are you saying people don't sit there and wait for this.

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Speaker 2: I am not saying that at all.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying if they got busy and something happened

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Speaker 4: and their schedules got disrepted, right, I am certainly going

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Speaker 4: to keep a close eye on Thursday night football because

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Speaker 4: it's Minnesota at the Rams. Minnesota playing a barn burner

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Speaker 4: against Detroit. Last week they lost to Detroit. No team

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Speaker 4: has won the week after playing the Lions this year,

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Speaker 4: and in those games they have lost by an average

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Speaker 4: of twenty one points. It's not even close. So we'll

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Speaker 4: see if that continues. Obviously, for Seahawks fans, you'd like

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Speaker 4: a bounce back effort, right, but the Rams are hosting

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know what any of it means.

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Speaker 4: I'm just spewing numbers and saying this could be interesting,

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Speaker 4: and I might not be watching after the second half.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I just thought it was interesting

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Speaker 4: because who knows how long that trend continues. Also, I

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Speaker 4: was buying time for you to tell me what it

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Speaker 4: is that you need to see from the Seahawks this

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Speaker 4: week to get a win.

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Speaker 5: I want them to turn Josh Allen back into a

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Speaker 5: guy who throws some interceptions. I mean you're turning back

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Speaker 5: into a pumpkin. Sure, if that's what I mean. Hey,

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Speaker 5: Jared Goff long interception less streak going into the game

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Speaker 5: last year, Trey Brown pick six, that's true. I mean,

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Speaker 5: maybe I'll get greeting asked for a pick six, but

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Speaker 5: I at least want to see an interception.

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Speaker 1: Two would be great.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, secondly, I want you know, I know that

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Speaker 5: finish is important, but I want to see the Seahawks

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Speaker 5: and get ahead because we saw their offense.

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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, you stole that one.

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Speaker 5: Look, you don't need like initially, I don't care if

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Speaker 5: it's three nothing or is either way orly, just don't

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Speaker 5: don't fall behind by enough that you get imbalanced on offense.

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Speaker 5: And that's what we saw during that losing streak is

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Speaker 5: you know, every one of those games as they trailed

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Speaker 5: by double digits and kind of got pass happy. So

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Speaker 5: I want to see it either either play from ahead

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Speaker 5: or just within the score so you can have your

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Speaker 5: whole offense open to you.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say take advantage of home field advantage and

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Speaker 4: the twelves because the splits, those road home splits for

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Speaker 4: the Bills are really really starkly different at home they're

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Speaker 4: three and oh they're averaging two hundred and seventy two

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Speaker 4: passing yards on the road. That's where their two losses

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Speaker 4: have come. And they're just passing for one hundred and

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Speaker 4: sixty six yards. So take advantage of the twelves and

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Speaker 4: of what you've.

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Speaker 2: Got at home. I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: Get out to an early lead so that you are

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Speaker 4: not forced to stray from the game plan, especially if

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Speaker 4: you don't have everybody there, including DK Metcalf. And you

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Speaker 4: know what if Jason Myers wants to continue the Year

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Speaker 4: of the Kicker and add on like another fifty nine

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Speaker 4: yard or sure.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I mean I would take fifty eight. Let's not

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Speaker 1: get greedy, says.

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Speaker 4: The person who just wanted two interceptions in a pick six.

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Speaker 4: I'm greedy with fifty nine. Okay, Fine, that's where we're

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Speaker 4: going to end today's conversation and we'll be back with

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Speaker 4: you next time on another edition of the Seahawks Insiders Podcasting.

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