1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 3: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 3: Michael Monks is going to be with us after Debor's 5 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 3: two thirty news. You're not gonna believe this. The LA 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 3: City Council is creating a new a new agency, a 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: new homeless agency to oversee all the old homeless agencies 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: that have blown billions of dollars. Seriously, the answer to 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: deal with these homeless agencies that have lost billions of dollars, 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: blown a lot of it with no good outcome is 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: to create a superstructure on top of them. Anyway, Michael, oh, 12 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: and I also got a story. Realclear Investigations dot com 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: has a story that encapsulates all the horrors of homelessness 14 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: in Los Angeles over the last few years, focusing on 15 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 3: all the fires that homeless people set. Because, as you know, 16 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 3: the homeless industry is funded far better than the fire department. Well, 17 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: we found that out. The fire department is badly underfunded 18 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: by about fifty percent. The homeless industry is wildly overfunded 19 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 3: with no visible progress. Weight Tea here is a pretty 20 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: extensive story on how many fires the homeless people set 21 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: and It really makes you wonder just how insane the 22 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: government is and how insane the voters are in this 23 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: city to allow this to go on, especially after they 24 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: know about it. We'll get to that, but now to 25 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: one of the today's big Trump stories, and there's only 26 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: about always about a dozen every day. Trump has ended 27 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: the Secret Service protection for Joe Biden's kids, including Hunter Biden. Yeah, 28 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: we were paying for Hunter Biden's Secret Service detail. Now 29 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: under by law, Joe Biden gets Secret Service protection for 30 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 3: the rest of his life. The kids don't. That's the 31 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 3: choice of whoever's president. Let's get Don mahalakan ABC News 32 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: law enforcement contributor and a retired a retired Secret Service agent. 33 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 2: I can't say that phrase. And I don't know why. 34 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: You're just having a day. I'm having a day. Don Mahollick, welcome, 35 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: How are. 36 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: You good, John? How are you guys? 37 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: I'm good. 38 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: So what's the law and who gets Secret Service protection? 39 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: And who's the decision maker on this? 40 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: Ultimately? 41 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, so the Secret Service under federal law, you know, 42 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 4: the president his family or vice president their family, A 43 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: couple of cabinet officials sect their Homeland Security, Secretary of 44 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 4: Treasury and a couple of White House staff people Chiefest 45 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 4: Staff Machalcuar Buyser are entitled to Secret Service protection. All 46 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 4: others that get Secret Service protection are done by executive order, 47 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 4: and I forgot the menage Fearnhead of states visiting the 48 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: United States also are offered Secret Service protection. Everybody else 49 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 4: is by executive order. Former presidents when they leave office 50 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 4: are entitled the lifetime Secret Service protection like you said, 51 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: But the children are given Secret Service protection up until 52 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 4: they're eighteen. So Sasha and Malia Obama lost Secret Service 53 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: protection once they left the White House after a short 54 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 4: period of time because they were one of them at 55 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: least was an adult. So Hunter, Biden, Ashley Biden losing 56 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 4: Secret Service protection. They probably should have because, let's face it, 57 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 4: President Biden is no longer in a position to be 58 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 4: making national security decisions, which was the reason why the 59 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 4: Secret Service protects the family. It's to protect the president's 60 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: decision making capacity. He's no longer in a position to 61 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: make decisions based on national security. Hunter and Ashley are adults, 62 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 4: and if they want their own security, they could pay 63 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: for it, probably at this point in their lives. 64 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: So when Biden left, he gave Hunter and Ashley six 65 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: months of Secret Service protection. And that's the part that 66 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: Trump presentded today, the extra boost that dad gave his 67 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: two kids. 68 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 4: Yes, that's the beauty of executive orders is one president 69 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 4: can do an executive order and another one can undo it. 70 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: They're written on like flash pay for some of them. 71 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: Well, if we didn't know, we certainly learned in the 72 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: last two months. 73 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, President Trump was in his right 74 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 4: to cut off the protection. He also cut off protection 75 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 4: for Secretary Pompeo and Josh Bolton, who I would argue 76 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 4: probably how to hire a threat profile than Hunter and 77 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 4: Ashley because of the Iranian targets on their backs from 78 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 4: their first Trump administration. But they too, they've been out 79 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 4: of office, you know for several years now, and you know, 80 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 4: I think they're both in a position as they need 81 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: private security can probably pay for it themselves. The Secret 82 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 4: Services this mission creep, I call it. The last couple 83 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 4: of administrations. They went from the Bushes and the Obamas, 84 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 4: who had a family of four, to the Trumps, who 85 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: had a huge family, to the Bidens, who also maintained 86 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 4: a huge umbrella, which is very tasking for the Secret 87 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 4: Service because there's a lot of non traditional protectees there. 88 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 4: So I think it's time for the Secret Service to 89 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: be able to focus on his traditional protectees and lose 90 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 4: some of these non traditional protectees that has been saddled with, 91 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 4: which will help the agency. 92 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: In the long haul. 93 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 3: Now, if Trump has another fit against Biden, could he 94 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 3: take away Joe and Jill Biden's Secret Service protection? 95 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: Is there any there? 96 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: No, because in federal law they're entitled to lifetime Secret 97 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 4: Service protection as a former president former first lady. There 98 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 4: was a time where the former presidents and former first 99 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: ladies where that lifetime protection was reduced to ten years 100 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: when President Clinton was in office, but then the events 101 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: at September eleventh changed that because when President Bush was 102 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: leaving office and he had a huge target on his 103 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 4: on his back from al Qaeda, Congress reinstated the lifetime 104 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 4: protection for former presidents the first lady. So no, no 105 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: president can undo it by executive order. No, that's in law. 106 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he tried, and 107 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 3: then you'd have another case in court, because that seems 108 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: to be the way everything's going is that Trump is 109 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: doing what he wants and then somebody takes him to 110 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 3: court and then he ignores the judge, And so I. 111 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: Would I would think the I think the Secret Service 112 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 4: appointed to the White House. Hey, look, this is a law. 113 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 4: We're mandated here, so you know you can't just you 114 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 4: can't just stop it. 115 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: Sorry. 116 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 117 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 3: Do you think that they have put the Secret Service 118 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 3: back in order after last summer's debacle with Trump getting 119 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 3: getting shot and there was nobody covering that that roof 120 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: where the would be assassin was laid out. 121 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 4: I think the Secret Service, with his new director, Sean Curran, 122 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 4: who was with Trump the day of the assassination, is 123 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 4: in a great spot to rebuild and retain a lot 124 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 4: of the issues that the Secret Service date back to 125 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 4: September twelfth, two thousand and one, when their mission portfolio exploded, 126 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: but they're funding in personnel never matched to that explosion. Conversely, 127 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 4: the FBI, whose mission also expanded after nine to eleven, 128 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 4: they got thousands of more agents, thousands of more, thousands 129 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 4: more or you know, millions more in funding to focus 130 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 4: on counter terrorism. So I think the agency is in 131 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: a spot, the Secret Services in a spot to rebuild 132 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 4: and rehab and get back to being the agency it 133 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: should be and with the new director and with the 134 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 4: backing of the White House and the backing of Congress. 135 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 4: So I think it's on that road. I think people 136 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 4: saw the Super Bowl commercial, which was fantastic. I've heard 137 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 4: the recruitment numbers of skyrocketed, which is what the agency needs. 138 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 3: Why do you think for all these years, for all 139 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: the money that we spend and waste and we're over 140 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: budget on why would they short change the Secret Service? 141 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: That's so strange. 142 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 4: I've asked that my entire career, and I think most 143 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 4: agents in the Secret Service would ask that same question. 144 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: How does this Secret Service not end up with its 145 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 4: lion's share of funding? 146 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: At times? 147 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 4: There's been some conversation about moving the agency from Homeland 148 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 4: Security back to Treasury. The Trump administration seems to be 149 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 4: a fan of that. Nobody has a clear answer. I 150 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: just all I can say is that you know, the 151 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 4: government budgets and weird and crazy ways, and the Secret 152 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 4: Service at times was neglected for the amount of funding 153 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: it probably could have been should have had. 154 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: All right, Don, thank you for coming on with us. 155 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me John all Right. 156 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: Good always good talking to you. Don Mahallick, and he 157 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: is ABC News Law enforcement contributor and a retired senior 158 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: Secret Service agent. Yes, third time is the charm when 159 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 3: we come back. Real Clear and Investigations did a piece 160 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: on just how many fires and how much destruction the 161 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: homeless reec on Los Angeles. 162 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: And this comes on the same day. 163 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: This report comes on the same day that the city 164 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: Council has voted to create a new homeless agency overseeing 165 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: all the failed homeless agencies. 166 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: That's uh. 167 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 3: And we'll have Michael Monks with that story after Debra's 168 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:28,479 Speaker 3: two thirty news. 169 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 170 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 5: six forty. 171 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: Coming up after two thirty in Deborah's news, Michael Monks 172 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 3: from KFI News. The LA City Council today created a 173 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,599 Speaker 3: new homeless agency to oversee all the corrupt thieves and 174 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 3: the old homeless agencies. That's right, a new homeless agency, 175 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 3: more money to be spent analyzing. 176 00:09:58,880 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: What are they going to tell it? 177 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: The details on how much money they steal, on how 178 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: much money the nonprofits stealing waste? 179 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: You think that's what they're gonna do now. 180 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: To lead up to that story, we have a piece 181 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: done it. You've probably heard of Real Clear Politics. They 182 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 3: have another section called Real Clear Investigations Anna Kasparian, and 183 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: she puts together up a comprehensive review of what's gone 184 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 3: on Los Angeles between the homeless and the fire department 185 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: and all the fires we have in LA and some 186 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 3: of this we have discussed in the past, especially over 187 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: the last two months since the big fires. But this 188 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: story you should look it up. It's Realclearinvestigations dot com. 189 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: And how Los Angeles is getting scorched by its homeless problem. 190 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 3: And when you see some of this stuff in black 191 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: and white, it makes you go huh wow. And she 192 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: opens with a story I remember. I'm sure, Debra you do. 193 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: Do you remember? This was Francesca Padilla of Venice and 194 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 3: she was awakened at about well in the middle of 195 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: the night and her there was fire broke out in 196 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: her neighbor's bungalow. 197 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: I remember this. 198 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: And she could hear the screaming of her neighbor's dog. 199 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: Yes, I know, God. She looked outside. 200 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: It was engulfed in flames, and she said another neighbor 201 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 3: said it was yelping so loud. The sound isn't the 202 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 3: usual dog sound. It was suffering the homeowner. Doctor Courtney 203 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: Gillenwater was at work when the fire started at three 204 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: in the morning. It's a pediatrician, so she's working the 205 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: overnight shift as a pediatrician and her dog burns to death. 206 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: And because it was an intentionally set fire by the homeless, 207 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: they were upset because the drug addicts in the neighborhood 208 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: were angry with Gillenwater because she had asked the city 209 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: to remove a dumpster behind her house where they would 210 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 3: congregate the nerve, and her neighbor also believes the homeless 211 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: were the culprits, and the fire department suspected arson, but. 212 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: Soon I guess this would have been. This would have 213 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: been in the Garcetti years. 214 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: The uh Fire Department issued a statement saying there's no 215 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: evidence that indicates the involvement of a person experienced homelessness 216 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: and so it's sufficiently unsolved, which means they covered it 217 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: up and probably on orders of Garcetti, which makes me suspicious. 218 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: Why we haven't heard about the cause of the fire 219 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: up in the palace. 220 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say. 221 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: You know, they came up with a diverting story about 222 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: an old fire from the week before that they'd put 223 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: out out on July first, and. 224 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: We don't know how that one started. 225 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: I was supposed to be fireworth fireworks, but I didn't 226 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: see any evidence. 227 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was kids with fireworks. That's true. 228 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 3: Well that's what they say, but I don't believe what 229 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: they say. So she used this as an opening and 230 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 3: then includes investigations by KEKEW News, NBC's Channel four's ITEAM. 231 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: Do you know since twenty nineteen, the number of fires 232 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: started by vagrants has increased by the thousands. In twenty 233 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: twenty four, there were nearly seventeen thousand fires started by 234 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 3: homeless people in the city of Los Angeles seventeen thousand. 235 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: Another investigation by the ITEAM found over fourteen thousand homeless 236 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 3: fires a year earlier, So in twenty twenty three there 237 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 3: were fourteen thousand and twenty twenty four, almost seventeen thousand. 238 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: Some of the fires started because of encampments illegally tapping 239 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: into the city's electrical system. The fourteen thousand fires in 240 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three were double the number of twenty twenty. 241 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: Now more than half the fires in the city are 242 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: started by homeless people, even though they account for less 243 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,119 Speaker 3: than one percent of the city's population. 244 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: You imagine this. 245 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: One percent of the population starts over fifty percent of 246 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: the fires, and they do it right in front of 247 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: our eyes in public. Ten years ago, these people didn't exist, 248 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: The fires didn't exist. Remember what Gigi Garciet said from 249 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: Fox eleven. Fire officials have been advised, probably by Garcetti 250 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:54,239 Speaker 3: and Bass, to evade questions about homeless fires from local journalists. 251 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: Even when high ranking fire officials know for a fact 252 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 3: how a fire was connected to an en mean or 253 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: an unhoused individual, they are not to say that Grassias 254 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: said this on television. They are just to say it's 255 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: under investigation. Well, that's exactly the answer we're getting about 256 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: the Palisades fire. It's under investigation, but it's two and 257 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: a half months. There's no more evidence to be had. 258 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: They've been staring at the same spot where the fire 259 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: started for two and a half months. They know, they 260 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: know what happened. They might not know the guy who 261 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: started it, but they know. Grassi has said that many chiefs, 262 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: many battalion chiefs, many captains are extremely frustrated to see 263 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: their men and their women risking their lives on fires. Well, 264 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: if they're not going to have the courage to speak up. 265 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what to say. LA Fire Department Captain 266 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: Freddie Escabar, he's the head of the union. Where's the 267 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: outrage for what's happening in the city. I don't know 268 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: what's wrong with people I have. I mean because we've 269 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: been talking about this, you know, off and on for 270 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: two and a half months. 271 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: I mean, they. 272 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: Some of these structures to homeless build or multi stories. 273 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: They have pro paine tanks and construction materials. It's all 274 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: over the Supulvita Base and Wildlife Reserve, which is near 275 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: the four or five in the valley. It's a park area. 276 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: They have ball fields there, a bike path. Been there 277 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: plenty of times with the kids, the San Fernando Valley 278 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: Audubon Society, treasurer Audubon Society. 279 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: They're birdwatchers, she said, she and her colleagues. 280 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: I've seen about one hundred and fifty people living there, 281 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: a lot of them mentally ill, and nobody does anything 282 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: about it. And then they have the story goes on 283 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 3: about the MacArthur Park fires every night on the side 284 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: walks across MacArthur Park and inside the park. 285 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 2: There's two types of fires. 286 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: There's the fires which are used to cook meth and 287 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: the others are to stay warm. And then it goes 288 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 3: into bass slashing the funding from the fire department. Let 289 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 3: me tell you, and I'm ever giving up on this, 290 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: you cannot have a fire department fifty percent funded. It's 291 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: only fifty percent funded. We only have fifty percent of 292 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 3: the firefighters. We have one hundred engines at minimum that 293 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 3: are broken and not being fixed because they have very 294 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: few mechanics. And then you give a half a billion 295 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: more dollars to these criminal homeless agencies. Then you do 296 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 3: the fire department, and the homeless agencies are all failing, 297 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: and the homeless people are starting more than half the fires, 298 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 3: I mean, seventeen thousand fires. 299 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: When when does and then Karen bast says, I'm not 300 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: going to quit on the city. What does she say? 301 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: Eric? 302 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: Play that again? She said this week that she's not 303 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: going to quit. I would never quit on my city. 304 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: You already quit if you e left seventeen thousand fires 305 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: a year by homeless people. And then you fund the 306 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 3: homeless budget and you've defunded the fire department, and then 307 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: the Palisades burns down. Is anybody connecting all these dots 308 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: isn't it obvious? Am I crazy? Sometimes I feel like 309 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: I'm crazy? Maybe I am crazy? Well, I both could 310 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: be true. I could be crazy and I'm right. So 311 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: now we come to Michael Monks right after Deborah's news 312 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 3: because the city council voted thirteen to nothing to create 313 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 3: a new homeless agency to oversee all the corrupt, thieving, 314 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: old homeless agencies. 315 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: So Michael will be on next. She's a little crazy too, Well, now, 316 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: who are you to come? Might not crazy? We'll put 317 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 2: you out to be the judge on the crazy Court. 318 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am 319 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 5: six forty. 320 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: You may be dizzy. 321 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 3: With all the cases that have been brought to court 322 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 3: to try to block Donald Trump directives. There's at least 323 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: four that I was aware of today that are actively engaged. 324 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 3: We are going to talk with Royal Oaks, ABC News 325 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: legal analysts because the biggest one of the week was 326 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 3: Trump deporting hundreds of Venezuelan gang members, some Marisa Latrucia 327 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: gang members and put them on a plane. And when 328 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 3: the district Judge, James Boseburg said to turn the planes around, 329 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 3: they said, oh, they're too far away. They can't hear us. 330 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 3: And then the El Salvadoran president said, oopsie, they landed. 331 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: And so the judge is upset, and we're going to 332 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 3: get into. 333 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 2: It because I will. 334 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 3: Actually I talked about this a few weeks ago. What 335 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 3: happens if Trump just refuses to go along with the 336 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 3: judge's order, then what and we're we're in new territory. 337 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: It's fascinating. We've got Michael Monks here, who's also fascinating, 338 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 3: because I don't know how anybody can cover city government 339 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: as much as you do without going insane, and maybe 340 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: you are insane. They voted thirteen to nothing today, and 341 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 3: it was to create some kind of new homeless agency, 342 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 3: some new homeless department to oversee all the old homeless 343 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: departments that have failed. 344 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 2: Let me stop you right there and correct the facts. John. 345 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 6: It's not a homeless department. This would be a bureau. Oh, 346 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 6: it's a bureau. It would be a bureau. Not to 347 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 6: be confused with what the county is doing, which is 348 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 6: a department. The city is creating a bureau. There's a 349 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 6: legal difference between a bureau in a department. Well, there's 350 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 6: certainly a bureaucratic difference. In this case. So this is 351 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 6: also in response similar to what the county has done. 352 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 6: Oh no, the money we're spending, which is a lot 353 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 6: for homeless programs, we don't seem to know how it's going, 354 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 6: where it's going, or if the investment is even paying off. 355 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 6: So we need a bureau inside City Hall to keep 356 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 6: better track of where these dollars are going. Man, I 357 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 6: read a quote to you, sir, Yes, sir. Councilwoman Nythia 358 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 6: Rahman says, we spend a lot of money on our 359 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 6: homelessness response, primarily on outreach, shelter beds and long term 360 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 6: housing that includes permanent supportive housing that we're building as 361 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 6: well as rental subsidies. 362 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: Blah blah. 363 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 6: Homeless response is complicated, she says, But she also says 364 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 6: the obvious and really the thing that should get people's attention. 365 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 6: No one in City Hall is tasked with knowing, for example, 366 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 6: how often encampments are being visited by outreach workers, how 367 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 6: many shelter beds are filled on any given night, how 368 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 6: many vacancies we have across our units, and how long 369 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 6: these vacancies take to get filled. So at City Hall 370 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 6: they don't even have the data on how these programs 371 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 6: are are not working. What do all the people in 372 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:09,239 Speaker 6: these homeless agencies, departments and bureaus, what do they do 373 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 6: all day if they're not tracking what the money is 374 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 6: being spent on, and then what kind of. 375 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: Return they're getting. 376 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 6: That's a question that has been raised recently by two audits, 377 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 6: one at the end of last year and one this month. 378 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 6: The most recent one was ordered by a federal judge 379 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 6: to look at the way the City of Los Angeles 380 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 6: and the La Homeless Services Authority, which is a joint 381 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 6: agency governed by the city and the county together wanting 382 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 6: to know how your money is being spent, how it's 383 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 6: being tracked. That audit came back and said, we can't 384 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 6: give you a full audit because we didn't get all 385 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 6: the information we needed. But what we do know is 386 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 6: that the accounting is poor and the oversight is worse, 387 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 6: and it was. 388 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 3: Over two billion dollars that they didn't know where it 389 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: went specifically and whether it had any effect. 390 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 6: That's right, and so the county's response to this being 391 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 6: the second audit of LASA a poor audit. 392 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: Right, because the city controller, I think had an audit too. 393 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 6: The controllers at an audit it's not looking good for 394 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 6: that agency. Because the county is moving towards its own department, 395 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 6: they will move a lot of their resources out of 396 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 6: LASA and they will oversee it themselves at the city. 397 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 6: This is not a department again which has been proposed, 398 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 6: it's a bureau. This is a bureau, and so they've 399 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 6: asked for a report in thirty days. It's also very 400 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 6: common when you're at city Hall of the county building, 401 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 6: they call for report backs. It's doing all They want 402 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 6: to know how much money they would need to fund 403 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 6: the bureau and how many people would be needed to 404 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 6: work there. And they might be pulled from existing jobs, 405 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 6: existing agencies where they have experience with homeless. So they're 406 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 6: going to take people from these failing homeless agencies and 407 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 6: transfer them to the Homeless Bureau. But these are the 408 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 6: people who've blown the money and don't know where it went, 409 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 6: and now they're going to be in charge of what 410 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 6: It's been stated that yes, some of the folks may 411 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 6: come from LASA itself. 412 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: They might come from a home from the Housing department. 413 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: A second, you're gonna have higher people from LASA who 414 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 3: lost the money to oversee last to see where the 415 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 3: money went, Well, they know where the money went. 416 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 2: Who's they're the ones you lost it? 417 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 6: That's right, So there are that's right, You're right, I mean, 418 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 6: and it is the same agencies, it's the same hands. 419 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 6: And that's why this response from the city is not 420 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 6: as strong as the one you saw from the county. 421 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 6: Keep in mind, LASA is governed by a board that 422 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 6: is appointed by the county and the city. So when 423 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 6: the county or the city try to say I don't 424 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 6: know what's going on at LASA, they have direct responsibility 425 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 6: and oversight of that agency. The county is ready to 426 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 6: wash its hands of it. It seems the city is 427 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 6: washing one hand. 428 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 3: It says in one report the city works with several agencies. 429 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: You have in addition to LASA, you have the Housing 430 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 3: Authority of the City of Los Angeles, that Los Angeles 431 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 3: Housing Department. There you go the Los Angeles Sanitation and Environment, 432 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 3: Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority, LASA, and then multiple La 433 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 3: County departments. And so is this new Brewer going to 434 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 3: oversee all these different other agencies. 435 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 6: I think the goal, as stated, is that the Bureau 436 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 6: would streamline some of those efforts, or at least have 437 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 6: a guy in a suit at a desk, knowing where 438 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 6: those various agencies are on any given day. But so far, 439 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 6: what it looks like is the attempts to create better 440 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 6: lives for homeless people has created job opportunities for housed people, 441 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 6: right while not improving the homeless situation. 442 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 3: I also, if I remember the audit, right, they found 443 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 3: that a lot of the money, like half the money 444 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: hadn't even spent. 445 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: What that is the controller audit that came out. 446 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 6: Now, there was some pushback on that that was valid 447 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 6: that some of these funds are not you know, to 448 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 6: be spent this year. They are from different grants or 449 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 6: that sort of thing. So when you lump it together, 450 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 6: it looks bad. But there was some nuance to that, 451 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 6: right that I think we should concede, you know, yet 452 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 6: this money could not be spent yet, or it's not 453 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 6: reflected in the budget yet, that sort of thing. It's 454 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 6: a three year plan with that money. But still there's 455 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 6: a lot of money in a bucket that hasn't been. 456 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 3: But they all know this has been going on for years, 457 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: and they suddenly sit upright and go, oh my god, 458 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 3: I had no idea. 459 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 2: Well, yes, you had an idea. It's been ten years 460 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: of this nonsense. 461 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 6: That's what's got to be the most surprising for folks 462 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 6: who've been watching this for a long. Look, I'm a 463 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 6: year into this, and I can't believe sometimes how slowly 464 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 6: things have moved to address this crisis that is visible 465 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 6: on every street in the inner city of Los Angeles. 466 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: I know. 467 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 6: And for this, by the way, the bureau is not 468 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 6: automatically created. We're getting a report in thirty days and 469 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 6: then we will know more. And the county's new department 470 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 6: is supposed to stand up this summer. 471 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 2: That's how quickly the county is trying to move. 472 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: Uh, huh, okay, wow, and they all do this with 473 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: a straight face. 474 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: Huh. 475 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 2: It's a very serious delivery of comments today at city Hall. 476 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 3: I see, all right, Michael Monks k if I News, 477 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: he gets paid to witness this. Coming up after three o'clock, 478 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: Royal Oaks is going to explain the uh, all the 479 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 3: battles going on between Trump and various judges on all 480 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 3: these executive orders and deportations that he's getting sued over 481 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 3: in court. 482 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM sixty. 483 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 3: Coming up after three o'clock after Denver's News, Royal Oaks, 484 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 3: the ABC News legal analyst, and we're going to talk 485 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 3: about these judges who are blocking Trump orders on various issues. 486 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: Of course, the biggest headline is Trump sending hundreds of 487 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 3: Venezuelan and El Salvadorian gang members to l Salvador, to 488 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: the worst prison in the hemisphere. And the judge was saying, well, no, 489 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: I'm blocking that. Turn the planes around. And they said, well, 490 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 3: planes already in the air well, turn them around. Well, 491 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 3: planes inter international airspace, turn them around. I say, oh, 492 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 3: it looks like the planes landed. Sorry, that's really what 493 00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 3: went on. So Trump is openly resisting the judge. James 494 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 3: Boseburg Borah Oaks will talk about it now hang on. 495 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 3: Oh with the Democrats, this is very amusing. In fact, 496 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe this. I had to go I heard 497 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: this on the radio this morning, and I had to go, well, 498 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 3: Eric has got a fuller clip here, because I couldn't 499 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: believe with all the turmoil going on in Washington, d C. 500 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 3: But Chuck Schumer, who is the Minori leader in the 501 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 3: Senate for the Democrats, and he's one of the last 502 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: Democratic leaders whose name you might recognize who's actually been 503 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 3: in power for a long time. Now, the Democrats' approval 504 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: rating is down to twenty nine percent in this country. 505 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: Twenty nine percent. 506 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 3: Now, if your party has lost the House and lost 507 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 3: the Senate and lost the presidency and the Supreme Court 508 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 3: seems stacked against you, and your approval rating as a 509 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: whole is down to twenty nine percent, would you go 510 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: on national television on the view no less those cackling 511 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: hens and mock business owners who feel that they built 512 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 3: the business themselves and they don't want the government to 513 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 3: take their money. Would you actually go on TV and 514 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: mock them? But if this doesn't show you what guys 515 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: like Schumer are really about. He really does think it's 516 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 3: his money to spend and not yours. So play this clip. 517 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 3: They were talking about tariffs, and this is from the 518 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: view he. 519 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 7: Wants to put these tariffs in. It's going to raise you, folks, 520 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 7: the average family, twenty two thousand dollars a year for 521 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 7: these tarifts. 522 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: Why is he doing that? Something so stupid? 523 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 7: Why he wants to use that money for tax cuts 524 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 7: for the billionaires. The Republican Party is a different kettle 525 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 7: of fish than it used to be, and that's why 526 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 7: we're fighting them so hard. They are controlled by a 527 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 7: small group a wealthy, greedy people. And you know what 528 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 7: their attitude is, I made my money all by myself. 529 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 7: How dare your government take my money for me. I 530 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 7: don't want to pay taxes? Or I built my company 531 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 7: with my bare hands. How dare your government tell me 532 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 7: how I should treat my customers, the land and water 533 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 7: that I own, or my employees. They hate government. Government's 534 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 7: a barrier to people, a barrier to stop them from 535 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 7: doing things. They want to destroy it. We are not 536 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 7: letting them do it, and we're united. 537 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: Notice they jacked up the music to try to get 538 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 3: them off stage. It's like at the Oscars, you know, 539 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, that's enough of that. Even at the 540 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 3: view it's like, oh, this is not good. He is 541 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 3: setting himself on fire here. I mean, that is one 542 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 3: of the most offensive things I've ever heard. Yes, they 543 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: do start up. The people do start companies all by themselves. 544 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: They do build companies with their bare hands. And know 545 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 3: they don't want the government taking the money because where 546 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 3: does the money go. That's really so outrageous. You're greedy 547 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: for wanting to keep your own money. I've heard everything now, 548 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: I thought, greedy is when you take other people's money. No, no, 549 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 3: you're keeping your own money. Schumer wants to take it 550 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 3: from you, but you're the greedy one, not him. And 551 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 3: look at all the garbage that they spend it on. 552 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: I heard this. 553 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 3: I had to listen to her like like three four times, 554 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 3: like are you serious, buddy, Yes, it is my money. No, 555 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 3: I don't want the government to take it, by the 556 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 3: way once and for all because people are so ignorant. 557 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 3: The top one percent pays over forty percent of the 558 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 3: income tax in this country. 559 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: You got that. 560 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 3: Write this down, tattoo this on your forehead. Top one 561 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: percent pays over forty percent of the income tax. Do 562 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 3: you know what the bottom fifty percent pays? The bottom 563 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 3: fifty percent of earners, they pay three percent. 564 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: Of the income tax. So I don't know. Is that 565 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: is that a fair share? 566 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 3: When you have half the country paying three percent total 567 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: and the top one percent paying forty percent. 568 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 2: I think that's a fair share. 569 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: Top one percent past forty percent, bottom fifty pays three 570 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 3: That's the truth. 571 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: Go look it up. 572 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 3: And then he talks about greedy businessman And you've heard 573 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 3: over the past two months. What they're spending it on. 574 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 3: I mean, look at the big story we started with 575 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 3: today with Nussum. He's blowing twelve billion dollars on illegal 576 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: alien healthcare. It's six billion over budget. He's got to 577 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 3: borrow three and a half billion, and then he wants 578 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: another three billion to get them through June. It's illegal 579 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 3: alien healthcare. Yes, I want to keep my money. Call 580 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 3: me greedy. I don't care. Fires running a business and 581 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 3: I'm financing millions of people who broke the law and 582 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 3: are squatting in this country, and I gotta pay all 583 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 3: their medical bills. If I run a small business and 584 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 3: I'm trying to provide health care for my family. 585 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't want. I don't. 586 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: The government is awful. It's horrendous. Well that's gonna win 587 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: you an election. That's a good platform to run on. 588 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: All right, we come back. So Trump deports two hundred 589 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 3: and sixty gang members, violent felon, violent felons. I mean, 590 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 3: the worst people in the Northern Hemisphere. These are the 591 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 3: worst people. Of these are terrorist organizations. MS thirteen and 592 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 3: trend Dear Ragua are declared terrorist organizations. They're cartels, they're gangs, 593 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 3: they're violent, they do horrible things, they rape and murder people, 594 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 3: and so Trump ejects to hundred and sixty from the country, 595 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 3: sends them to El Salvador in prison, and some judges going, oh, no, 596 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 3: you can't do that, and judge basically gave him the bird. 597 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,479 Speaker 3: We'll talk with Royal Oaks, ABC News legal correspondent about 598 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: all that. 599 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: Next. 600 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 3: Debor Mark Live the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey, 601 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 3: you've been listening to The John Covelt Show podcast. 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