WEBVTT - Ocean's Ten: The Baker Street Robbery

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of I Heart Radio. Hey

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Dutton, what's up, Mary? It's you know, it's up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good. How are you. I've been been well, being

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well. I'd like to hear that. You know, it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, actually I do. In in London, thieves, just

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<v Speaker 1>normal thieves. They were out and they pounced on this

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<v Speaker 1>person who was about to get in their car and

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<v Speaker 1>they stole the car. And it turned out that the

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<v Speaker 1>car was an ambulance and it was a very special

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<v Speaker 1>kind of ambulance. This was an emergency circumcision ambulance. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I need more information, girl, do you This emergency circumcision

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<v Speaker 1>ambulance was also an Audi T T. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know sports cars, imagine a smooth backed German sports car.

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<v Speaker 1>That is it the aud E T T. Now what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with the emergency circumcision that you need a

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<v Speaker 1>sports car to get this kind of emergency? So many

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<v Speaker 1>emergency circumcisions are there. We gotta get this baby cut

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<v Speaker 1>stat I got a middle aged man and needs a circumcision.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a reversal. I don't understand this. Yeah. Well, Also,

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<v Speaker 1>while we're at it, I found a photo. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is what it looks like. The EGENC. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>when I open ah. No, the emergency circumcision ambulance is

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<v Speaker 1>a green and yellow out e T T that is loud, loud,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not gonna miss it. No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I still, so, did you ever find out did you

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<v Speaker 1>look into what this emergency circumcision thing is about? I

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<v Speaker 1>could not find much. I was looking like on Vice

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<v Speaker 1>UK in different places, and it's mostly people just covered

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<v Speaker 1>the theft right and then finding the actual answer. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just as medical response on it. So I couldn't find

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<v Speaker 1>a company. I couldn't. So we need to go to

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<v Speaker 1>London call and be like, hurry, we need a circumcision,

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<v Speaker 1>hurry stats and then when they show up we interview them. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I like this, don't The Italian police have like a

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<v Speaker 1>Ferrari they use or something like that for I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe. And then the in Dubai they have almost

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<v Speaker 1>an entire fleet of sports cars for the police because

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<v Speaker 1>they had so many wealthy jerks who go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and drive super fast in the desert that they needed

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<v Speaker 1>their own supercars to catch them. So they have like

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<v Speaker 1>mcclarens and Ferraris and Lamborghinis and like just a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of like super supercars and the whole. The Italian one

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<v Speaker 1>is to take organ donations. Oh yeah, that's actual. That's

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<v Speaker 1>like the medical one the Ambulans talking about. I was

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<v Speaker 1>going with the police. Yeah, well they're all the the

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know authorities whatever they are. So yes, ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>emergency circumcision. Yes, so there you go, totally ridiculous. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what else is ridiculous. A bank heist

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<v Speaker 1>that is a premonition, a preview of a later ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>bank heist. Wit, a premonition of a bank HAIs like

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<v Speaker 1>a psychic kind of pition. Shall be foretold. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime. A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers. He

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<v Speaker 1>cons It's always murder free and one ridiculous damn right.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember, Zaren when I told you about the

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<v Speaker 1>Hatton Garden heist? Is back? Oh I love an old

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<v Speaker 1>crew of bankrupt old age pensioners. They concocted a heist

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<v Speaker 1>in busted into a vault full of gems and untold riches.

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<v Speaker 1>Um story I want to tell you today is very similar,

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<v Speaker 1>more criminal silver backs. Well, it's a bit of a crossover.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of an origin story because we have a

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<v Speaker 1>repeat offender. Were our first person to come back twice? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know? Did you know they're recording us right now? Dave?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you know that yet? Anyway, why would he

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<v Speaker 1>do that? Well, we'll find out. So we have a

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<v Speaker 1>repeat offender here. And do you remember the ringleader of

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<v Speaker 1>the Hatton Gardens heist. Ringleader had a cool name he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a car dealership in like a shabby sheek

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<v Speaker 1>rambling home. Yes, yes, the Governor none other than Brian Reader.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't think of that part of his name. I

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<v Speaker 1>got the nicknames. So Brian Reader a k a. The

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<v Speaker 1>Governor was one of the masterminds behind the crazy bank

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<v Speaker 1>robbery that I'm going to tell you about today. And

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to also note that the Governor denied

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<v Speaker 1>any involvement at all in this one. So when we

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<v Speaker 1>first met him, we were talking about twelve with the

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<v Speaker 1>Hatton Gardens heist. This is different. This is nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>that he cooks this up. Oin Um. So he has

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<v Speaker 1>this little gang going around stealings, doing those little stealings.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the guys in his gang is named Anthony Gavin,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for his familiars. He was a photographer in

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<v Speaker 1>his late thirties. At the time, he read a Sherlock

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<v Speaker 1>Holmes short story written by Arthur Conan Doyle. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>another cross over here. It's just all woven together. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called The Redheaded League. Oh yes, and this one, this

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<v Speaker 1>was very inspirational to all detectives. Well, it inspired old

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Gavin. In the story, the thieves tunnel into a vault,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the story they tunnel right into the arms

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<v Speaker 1>of these detectives. So he's like, I can I can

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<v Speaker 1>figure out a better way to do this. Now, another thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like you to note, the Holmes headquarters were on

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<v Speaker 1>Baker Street right, correct, exactly. So An't has an idea.

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<v Speaker 1>He figures out that he can pull off a tunnel

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<v Speaker 1>heist way better than the crooks in the homes tale.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, everyone always thinks they're smarter than everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>He took this idea to the governor, and the governor

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<v Speaker 1>he had, Governor, Young Governor, that's my new rap name

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<v Speaker 1>had recently suffered a head injury when he slipped and fell. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't mean to laugh at recently head injury.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's why we're laughing, because because head injuries are no

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<v Speaker 1>laughing matter, they can make a man strange for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of his day. But the governor there were a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of injuries involved in Hatton Gardens, and so that's

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<v Speaker 1>why the bad luck was predetermined. So he slips and

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<v Speaker 1>falls while he's escaping from a building that he's like

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<v Speaker 1>scoping out a building for robbery. Someone catches sight of

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<v Speaker 1>him and he's like runs and then boyk hits his

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<v Speaker 1>head and has That's that's the sounds I just played

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<v Speaker 1>on the recording. Um. So he couldn't he couldn't never

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<v Speaker 1>get anything right. He's still though, with all his bumbling,

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<v Speaker 1>he's stone cold. Oh yeah, he's a hard man. Have

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<v Speaker 1>seen as a clown. He's a veteran criminal exactly, even

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<v Speaker 1>as a young man. So Gavin and the gov They

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<v Speaker 1>go and they get this guy, Reginald Tucker, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>a reggie. He's a used car dealer. Um. And then

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<v Speaker 1>also he would say that his car dealer, he would

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<v Speaker 1>say sometimes that his job was a company director. That's vague.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's this other guy, Thomas Stevens. He's another used

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<v Speaker 1>car dealer. Just the whole clan of don't forget the

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<v Speaker 1>governor went and how to use car. I'm laughing, like

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<v Speaker 1>all these guys are like, yeah, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>I push used cars. I still use cars. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>use cars dealer. So Bobby Mills is another dude pushing

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<v Speaker 1>warm cars, not hot cars. Warm Gently's Bobby Mills is

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<v Speaker 1>another friend of the governors, so they bring him into this.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's Mickey Skinny GERVAISI sounds like a boy band Tommy.

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Skinny is a burglar alarm expert. Okay, you need

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<v Speaker 1>one of those always. Um. And then there are these

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<v Speaker 1>two unidentified people to this day unidentified, one of whom

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<v Speaker 1>was an explosives expert. This is totally Ocean's eleven. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also the Professionals Bank. It's everything. That's all the

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<v Speaker 1>great like Gang Group movies, like, Okay, we need this professional,

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<v Speaker 1>we need this expert. It's also you know, it's La

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<v Speaker 1>La Land, which I don't know, I've never seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's the dancing oscar, the accidental whatever. Yeah. Um, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So these two other mystery guys. One is named little

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<v Speaker 1>Legs and the other one is named th h that's

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<v Speaker 1>all we know of now. The th h they it

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<v Speaker 1>was rumored was connected with a really corrupt Scotland yard

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<v Speaker 1>detective inspector. But it's all umor in supposition was to

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<v Speaker 1>be like tight with bad guys, tight with a sort

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<v Speaker 1>of good guy. Okay, okay, I'm with it. So this

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<v Speaker 1>rag tag bunch they get together, they decide they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to target the Baker Street branch of Lloyd's Bank on

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<v Speaker 1>the corner of Baker Street and Marleybourne Road. Know what

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<v Speaker 1>that means? Me too? At Baker Street. So December seven seventy,

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<v Speaker 1>Reginald Tucker, car dealer slash company director. He goes into

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<v Speaker 1>the bank and he opens a bank account with five

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<v Speaker 1>pounds it's a good quantity of money. Then he uses

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<v Speaker 1>the name G. Edwards, not his real name, and a

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<v Speaker 1>fake home address to open this account. The bank doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>check the references that he supplied. They didn't notice that

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<v Speaker 1>the address that he gave was actually a news agent's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like a New Stork store. Whatever. They're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have an account. Great. Two months later, Tucker goes

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<v Speaker 1>and he gets a safe deposit box at the Bank Inc.

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<v Speaker 1>At number three seventeen. If you're taking notes letters that

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<v Speaker 1>cost as two pounds fifty pence a month. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>like the rent for the safe positive to let it

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<v Speaker 1>to let exactly. He didn't keep much in it, but

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<v Speaker 1>it gave him access to the vault. Yes exactly, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with you. You know how easy how they do? So

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<v Speaker 1>he'd sign in under his fake name and then they

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<v Speaker 1>escort him to the vault two staff members Mr. Edwards.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd used the two key thing and then they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, We're going to leave you in this

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<v Speaker 1>vault for your privacy, to look at your my little

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<v Speaker 1>pony collection. There are some white gloves, all your precious memories. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Tucker would go in there and his job

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<v Speaker 1>was like memorizing the inside of the vault, drawing up

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<v Speaker 1>a plan, coming up with sematic. Yeah. So he'd go

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<v Speaker 1>into the vault just like he's a businessman. He'd wear

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<v Speaker 1>a bowler hat and a pinstripe suit. You gotta love

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<v Speaker 1>a costume. He's looking like the guy from them Great Painting.

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<v Speaker 1>He's coming in with a bowler and he's assisting this

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<v Speaker 1>puzz um. He would also carry an umbrella and he

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<v Speaker 1>used that to measure the inside of the vaults. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm just picturing John Kleee doing all of this

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<v Speaker 1>and it's really working for but also would probably look

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<v Speaker 1>like a dance routine where he's like setting the umbrella up,

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<v Speaker 1>taking some steps down. Like this poor guy has nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>to rehearse, so he comes in here. It also turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that the floor tiles were a standard nine inches

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<v Speaker 1>each and that was super helpful, so makes measuring a snap.

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<v Speaker 1>He Uh. He goes to the vault thirteen different times,

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<v Speaker 1>and five times in the month before the heist, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's just like constantly checking out his safe deposit box

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<v Speaker 1>two times in the week before the heist. Now is

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<v Speaker 1>this like a learning anything for the Bank of the

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<v Speaker 1>don't this? This guy, he's a businessman, wants to come

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<v Speaker 1>and then just feel his my little pony ponies, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>tips his hat to him and goes in there and

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<v Speaker 1>looks through his dust, his jewels or whatever he does. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he has like old rinsed out yogurt containers. Did not

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<v Speaker 1>but do you know, I picture everything, so now it's

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<v Speaker 1>right there. You know, you're welcome, and he just like

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<v Speaker 1>he looks at it and he remembers the good times.

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<v Speaker 1>Such a good yo play Blueberry day. So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>he's gotten his safe deploset box if he asked me.

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<v Speaker 1>The vault at Lloyd's Bank Baker Street was built of

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<v Speaker 1>reinforced concrete. It had two doors and it was behind

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<v Speaker 1>a locked sliding grill, so you know it's pretty secure.

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<v Speaker 1>The main door had an alarm and a lock that

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<v Speaker 1>was set to a timer, so no one, not even

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<v Speaker 1>the employees, could open it outside of normal business, so

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<v Speaker 1>you better not get stuck in there. He checks this

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<v Speaker 1>all out. They find out too, that the bottom was

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen inches. There's also another source that I found that

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<v Speaker 1>said it was three ft of double reinforced concrete. The floor, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or the bottom as I call it. I was wondering, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, excuse me, I need to go vacuum

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom from the walls of the bottom. You've been sweeping.

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<v Speaker 1>The houses are rocking so impenetrable. They say, okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom is not connected to an alarm system. The

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<v Speaker 1>floor it was fancy, people call it the floor. No

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<v Speaker 1>alarm system on the floor. Two doors down from the

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<v Speaker 1>bank on Baker Street, there's a struggling leather good store.

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<v Speaker 1>The store I just love struggling weather goods. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just trying to make the like, come on five,

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<v Speaker 1>the hobo bag. This is not what it used to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the market. The store is called les Sack. See,

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<v Speaker 1>this is why I'm thinking about that French. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not sports sack. You know, that's all like the parachute material.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't this big in the eighties, But that's a different one.

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<v Speaker 1>Sports sack. Oh, yes, I know you're talking about. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a big eighties thing and I just am going

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<v Speaker 1>to give a little bit of a reveal. Open up

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<v Speaker 1>my world. That's the kind of wallet I can You're

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<v Speaker 1>always and I'm so up to date. Anyway, Lasak going

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<v Speaker 1>out of business. I'm so shocked. The basement of the

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<v Speaker 1>shop was at the same level as the bank vault.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be handy, yeah, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>only they weren't next door though there's two doors down.

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<v Speaker 1>They're separated by a fast food restaurant called Chicken In.

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<v Speaker 1>Chicken In and don't want to know it comes out

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<v Speaker 1>I n M. It's like a where salesman Chicken come

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<v Speaker 1>down the ricken in town and you're in London and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, we're kind of good poultry like me find

0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:43.800
<v Speaker 1>a home. They're like, come on in, and they just

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<v Speaker 1>march them right into a fryar. It's a little bait

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<v Speaker 1>and switch. The spot today is a taco bell. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>a tradition going. Yeah, So the gang they recruit a

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<v Speaker 1>recently bankrupt businessman named Benny Wolf. Okay, you're gonna like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna think I'm making this up or to be

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<v Speaker 1>like that gonna be Burnett, But I swear to you

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<v Speaker 1>this is pretty much the plot of a movie with

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<v Speaker 1>ever g Robinson from the thirties, and he has a

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<v Speaker 1>leather good store that they use its next door to

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<v Speaker 1>to break in. They go through the basement of the

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<v Speaker 1>leather good store. Are you kidding me? Like you're telling

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<v Speaker 1>me that. I'm like, I've seen this. Maybe they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to sound smart by being like, oh, we got it

0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.280
<v Speaker 1>from a short story. We were just sitting around reading.

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<v Speaker 1>What is this film you talk about? No the cinema? Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, well who knows? So he Benny Wolf convinces

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<v Speaker 1>a former assistant of his named Molly Adams to put

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<v Speaker 1>her name on the deed of the sack. He couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it because he'd recently declared bankruptcy. So we have

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<v Speaker 1>our legitimate businessman, who is a legitimate exactly. So August one,

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<v Speaker 1>the purchase goes through, he gets the shop, gang goes in,

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<v Speaker 1>they close up shop, they hang science. They're like, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to reopen later in September. So you know, neighbor,

0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:09.720
<v Speaker 1>it's eagerly remodeling. Come back soon. Friday, August the heist commences.

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<v Speaker 1>So Stevens, who's the other car dealer. He'd been tasked

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<v Speaker 1>with getting tools. He had to get a powerful jack.

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<v Speaker 1>And what why are you laughing? You leveled your eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and be powerful jack. I was just talking and a

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<v Speaker 1>thermal lance. You get it again, so you can take

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<v Speaker 1>it again. I don't even know what does the thermal lance.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually I do know. I just like how you

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<v Speaker 1>can change meetings just with your tone of void completely.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first essay I ever wrote, and you

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<v Speaker 1>had like it was like sixth grade you had to

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<v Speaker 1>write an essay. I wrote a whole like persuasion piece

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<v Speaker 1>on how the tone can make anything sexual. I was

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed to turn next grade six. Well, I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>one in third grade, so sup about innuendo? You know?

0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:56.400
<v Speaker 1>It was like, I'm so sorry for your teachers throughout

0:16:56.400 --> 0:17:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the years. Oh yeah, as am I yeah. But Powerful

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<v Speaker 1>Jack and Thermal Lance. Is that sounding familiar to you?

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<v Speaker 1>It's time. Well it sounds like stars of a film,

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<v Speaker 1>Powerful Jack and Thermal Lance because it's to Jack and

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<v Speaker 1>Lance as her first names. I'm with you right there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually like, you know, who cares? Who knows? Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>They're similar to the list of tools in the Hatton

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<v Speaker 1>Garden Heights. It's very similar. Okay, So Bobby Mills, the

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<v Speaker 1>one who is old friends with the governor, he chickens

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<v Speaker 1>out at the last minute. Governor has a hard time.

0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:36.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he just could not get good guys. He

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<v Speaker 1>does not have good crew retention. But they convinced him, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>be the lookout. He could do practice runs. Yeah, now

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<v Speaker 1>I hope, like remember the lookout from Hatton. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, all right. So also, remember I told you

0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.800
<v Speaker 1>the governor had a head injury during his recent escape. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, I can't dig head injury. I dented my brain, pan,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't dig. So this is kind of shades of

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny the diabetic from Patton Gardens. You know, they've all

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<v Speaker 1>got these ailments. Now, let's take a break now that

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<v Speaker 1>we've established all this, and when we come back, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell you about how they set up their

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<v Speaker 1>little plan. Hey Aaron, Hey, I'm back. My name is

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<v Speaker 1>Thermal Lance and I am powerful jock. That's where I

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<v Speaker 1>think if we ever have to go somewhere and like

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<v Speaker 1>sign in as something like drewry Duty, Oh no, it's

0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.440
<v Speaker 1>not Elizabeth and it's Thermal Lance, they're like, oh, sorry,

0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:55.320
<v Speaker 1>we got the wrong personal he and I'll walk away.

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<v Speaker 1>What was I talking about? Baker Street, Yes, the robbery

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<v Speaker 1>and the Yeah, okay, so Gavin the homes fan, Tucker,

0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the guy who did the whole vault measuring, and then

0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:15.359
<v Speaker 1>one of the unnamed members. Yeah, they drilled through les

0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Saks six inch concrete floor and then they hit Clay

0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:24.480
<v Speaker 1>So next door chicken In. Um, not like Bobby Mills

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<v Speaker 1>who was Chicken out. Hey, uh so the digger guys

0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:34.640
<v Speaker 1>they realized that chicken In's foundation wall was actually lower

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<v Speaker 1>than they had realized, so they had to dig under

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<v Speaker 1>and around that before they got to the vault. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the I think chicken In is more heavily

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<v Speaker 1>reinforced than Lloyd's Bank. Yeah, sounds like it. And they

0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:49.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of take their stuff. So when you're taking the

0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:54.200
<v Speaker 1>chickens to their final reward, you wanted solid um. Gavin

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<v Speaker 1>was apparently in super good shape. I guess he was

0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:02.200
<v Speaker 1>also like a part time physical therapist. They had the um.

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<v Speaker 1>He did most of the work and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty confident. He wore tight T shirts, no T

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<v Speaker 1>shirt at all. Top. He later said that he lost

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<v Speaker 1>almost two stones twenty eight pounds twelve or fourteen pounds.

0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I can never remember water weight. Did he lose a limb?

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<v Speaker 1>I So remember they get started on a Friday. They

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<v Speaker 1>keep digging till Monday morning, and then they're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, let's let's keep going next weekend. Let's

0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.760
<v Speaker 1>take a break. This is our weekend gig um, very

0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.160
<v Speaker 1>big weekend project. It takes, you know, digging a hole

0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.359
<v Speaker 1>takes a long time. You always see on TV and

0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.320
<v Speaker 1>movies there's like a criminal digs a grave for someone.

0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:48.320
<v Speaker 1>It's all clean, smooth walls six ft deep. That's not reality,

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<v Speaker 1>no no, and they do it in like an hour,

0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:52.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, or what's supposed to be in our you

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<v Speaker 1>know that a TV show that's guilty of this, Sons

0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:59.040
<v Speaker 1>of anarchy, oh, yeah, the fastest hole diggers in the world. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they like toss someone to shovel and then they cut

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<v Speaker 1>to them in an undershirt, like wiping their forehead with

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<v Speaker 1>their arms as they stand in that perfectly chiseled out,

0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:11.240
<v Speaker 1>super deep hole. Um, and then there's always a pile

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<v Speaker 1>of dirt next to it that in no way is

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<v Speaker 1>the same volume as the amount of dirt, but it

0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:17.880
<v Speaker 1>definitely looks like an industrial equipment had lifted it out

0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:19.959
<v Speaker 1>of the hole and piled it there. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>like toss them in and they're like, okay, fill it up,

0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, and whatever. If they did that in real life,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be sort of this rounded, lumpy thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>like three f three weeks later. Yeah, anyway, they come back,

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<v Speaker 1>they go to work next weekend. They dug a forty

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<v Speaker 1>foot twelve inch by fourteen inch tunnel under the vault.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve inch Wait, that doesn't seem big enough for people,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's what I read, and so the tunnel was

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<v Speaker 1>called a remarkable piece of engineering during the later trial.

0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:53.040
<v Speaker 1>It had to be bigger than that, otherwise they're like

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<v Speaker 1>slithering through turned shoulder and I separated shoulders two ft

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<v Speaker 1>by four feet makes me comfortable. Let's go with that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it doesn't really matter. They dug a tunnel

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<v Speaker 1>um who knows, who cares the crew. They also carved

0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:12.520
<v Speaker 1>out of space seven ft wide and five ft high

0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:17.119
<v Speaker 1>directly under the vault's workable. Yeah, and that's where they

0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:23.440
<v Speaker 1>could work. They set up the jack, the powerful jack um,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of railway ties that I suppose they brought

0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:33.159
<v Speaker 1>with railway ties. That's like, I guess pieces of the

0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 1>ground that was like too wet to support the pressure

0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:38.159
<v Speaker 1>of the drilling and the ties kept sinking into the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>We have some so siden's issues. They also tried using

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<v Speaker 1>the thermal leaves um, but it too could not break

0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:50.760
<v Speaker 1>through the concrete. Yeah, so they're like, guess what, all right,

0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 1>we're running out of time. Let's go next weekend into this,

0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:55.840
<v Speaker 1>so we'll regroup. Are they going to have to hit

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<v Speaker 1>up a home improvement big box store? Oh no, I mean,

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm figuring the best way for them at this point

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<v Speaker 1>is is to reconsider the use of tools like maybe

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:09.879
<v Speaker 1>some explosives. Ha ha ha. See you should have been

0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 1>running this from the beginning, right, so check it out.

0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:17.200
<v Speaker 1>It's taken them through weekends. They're able to dig down

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:20.240
<v Speaker 1>there below the vault. The tools aren't working. It's too

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 1>damp with chicken grease. So they call in the explosives expert.

0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:27.639
<v Speaker 1>Nice shape charges, that's your answer. I'm gonna go ahead

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 1>and say that that guy was little legs. Yeah, just

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:37.119
<v Speaker 1>like that, and he dorfon explosives, little legs. He gets

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<v Speaker 1>some gelic knight. Okay, jelic knight. Hey Elizabeth, what's gelic knight?

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<v Speaker 1>Acting like you know, I'm gonna play it cool, like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, jelic knight. That's that's the right choice. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I go with. It's either thermite or what you

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<v Speaker 1>say or boom boom powder um well. Wikipedia defines gelic knight,

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<v Speaker 1>also known as blasting gelatine or simply jelly. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for this, Cheli? I don't think I can handle

0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:06.400
<v Speaker 1>this kind of heat? They say. It's an explosive material

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 1>consisting of colade in cotton dissolved in either nitroglycerin or

0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 1>nitro glycol and mixed with wood, pulp and salt peter.

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:19.360
<v Speaker 1>It was invented in eighteen seventy five by Swedish chemist

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Alfred Nobel Oh on his way to T and T.

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<v Speaker 1>Also invented the dynamite in today's society. Now that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing all the bad essay things. I had an uncle

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:32.119
<v Speaker 1>who taught me how to make explosives out of like

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<v Speaker 1>common household ingredients like styrofoam and stuff, And this one

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 1>sounds a lot like a recipe he taught me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wondering if he's like free verst Off of that. Probably Riffin.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so little Legs, you got himself, some gellic Knight,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's ready to blow the absolute cottage cheese out

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 1>of that Bault floor. So the group, they're concerned that

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:56.359
<v Speaker 1>the explosion is going to be heard outside, so they

0:24:56.400 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 1>rent walkie talkies so they can coordinate with their outside

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<v Speaker 1>I'd look out, scaredy cat Mills and uh Friday, September

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>t pm, Lloyd's Bank closes again for the weekend game

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 1>comes back for weekend activities. Mills he's posted up at

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 1>the top of ninety four Baker Street that had a

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:19.760
<v Speaker 1>clear view at the bank, so they really aren't that

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<v Speaker 1>far from they're living it. Do you know what was

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 1>located at ninety four Baker Street a few years prior

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to this. I'm gonna go with a turkey shack. It

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 1>was the original Apple store where the Beatles had opened

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>their short lived Apple boutique. Oh yeah, like Apple records

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 1>of the original Yeah, that's that's completely completely irrelevant to

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.440
<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about. But that's my that's my jam.

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for the information. So the gang drills holes

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:53.200
<v Speaker 1>in the concrete under the vault, fills them with gelic Knight.

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 1>They connected back to a generator in La Sachs basement

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 1>using this series of cables tubes. Uh Mills, he's keeping

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.640
<v Speaker 1>an eye on things, and they set off the explosives

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 1>around twelve thirty am Saturday, September eleven, coinciding with a

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 1>green light and moving traffic to help block the noise.

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:16.639
<v Speaker 1>So Mills is like waiting till the light changes. That

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>truck comes, Go go, go truck. They get lucky. The

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 1>whole that they ended up making in the bottom of

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the vault um it had a bank trolley directly over

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 1>it and that helped muffle the sound. So all these

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>things working together, they get in the vault. They go

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 1>to work. The governor. He's an expert at opening safe

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>deposit boxes. They worked all day. Okay, maybe I'm wrong here,

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't think there was such a thing as

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>an expert in getting into safe depositible. I thought you

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:46.680
<v Speaker 1>did pry your way. You know what. You didn't think

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:49.679
<v Speaker 1>there was such a thing as emergency circumcision, or at

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 1>least unaware of learning, constantly learning. Stay curious. Remember that

0:26:56.280 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 1>he didn't get to use that expertise though, decades later

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 1>for Hatton Gardens. Remember he just noped out of there. Yeah,

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>so this time he did the hard work, he put

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>in the effort way to hustle. Good game, Good game, zaren.

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 1>I want you to close your eyes, okay, just for

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:18.919
<v Speaker 1>no reason, I want you to picture it. It's eleven

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>o'clock on a Saturday night. A man named Robert Rowlands

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>is patting around his fourth floor apartment on Whimpole Street.

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Now he's going to settle in for his typical late

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 1>night routine of turning on his American Forces radio, putting

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 1>some vaseline on his feet, going on his sox. Yes,

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>he's cutting loose on a Saturday night there, bubby. Uh,

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:46.680
<v Speaker 1>he's really hoping to tune into Radio Luxembourg makes him

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>feel fancy. Instead, he hears a man's voice in English

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 1>coming through. Clearly, the man is talking about a vault

0:27:56.640 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Luton whatnot that is not Radio Luxembourg. Know your pal

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Robert comes to the conclusion that he's listening to a

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:07.440
<v Speaker 1>robbery taking place nearby. That is so exciting for him.

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.439
<v Speaker 1>I love this for his Saturday night. So he calls

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the local precinct. They don't take him seriously and they're like,

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>you know what, okay, yeah, sure you're here and record

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 1>it and get back to us, and then they like

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>snicker and hang up the phone. It makes me wonder

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>if maybe he'd called them previously with other outlange, or

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>if he started off with okay, Normally on a Saturday,

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I like to listen to Radio Luxenberg, but this Saturday

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh man, you know yeah, we get a

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:37.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of these. So here's the thing. Though conveniently, Rolands

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>has a cassette recorder at his house of because he

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>uses it to practice his Spanish. What he just talks

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>to him cute yeah? Did he like listens to himself,

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>gets better at how he says in Spanish according to

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 1>his own ear. But he doesn't speak Spanish or don't

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>want to hear it to correct. Well, I don't know,

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Like when I was in high school in French class.

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>We used to have to read like questions and then

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 1>answer them on a cassette and then this is you're

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>seeing how old I am? And then leave him with

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the teacher. And she was supposed to like listen to

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>them to see if not only were we writing it? Yeah,

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and I just didn't study and this isn't senior year,

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>and so every question that came up, I go, oh,

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, it didn't fly, didn't it didn't. Um.

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>So he's like this one man party machine. He's got

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 1>a cassette recorder. He records the thieves arguing mostly with

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Mills outside about whether to stop for the night er

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 1>keep going. He must be hearing this the most random stuff.

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>We gotta light okay, no light? Yeah, he has the recording.

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 1>He calls the cops again, but this time he calls

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 1>the main line at Scotland Yard. He doesn't trust the precincts,

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and um, they take him seriously. They send officers over.

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Now it's interesting. Later the police threatened to prosecute Mr

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Rollins for listening to an unlicensed radio station. Is that

0:29:55.640 --> 0:30:02.239
<v Speaker 1>a thing? Radio station crossover? Okay? Lloyd's bank, though, gave

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>him a pound reward. Good job, dude. So in the

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>morning September twelve, Sunday, the thieves start talking again. They're

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>telling Mills, we're going to finish off here in the

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>bank and uh, we shall be coming out early this

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>afternoon and you'll just have to bluff bluff your way

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>straight off the road. Yeah. There's this book called One

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 1>Last Job, written by two guys from the Daily Mirror,

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Tom Petaphor and Nick Summerland. They said quote police needed

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>technical help and fast. They asked the BBC and the

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Post Office for assistance in tracking down the broadcasts in

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>hope of catching the burglars in the act. We did

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 1>receive considerable assistance, but the equipment they had was the

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>type which was not much help. We were told by

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 1>one of the radio detection experts that we would search

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 1>an area within a seven mile radius of Mr Rowland's flat,

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and this involved a huge number of banks and similar premises.

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>That advice left police with an area of one hundred

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and fifty four square miles of central London to search.

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>It contained hundreds of banks, and officers began the process

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>of contacting the head offices of all of them. Right

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>they contacted nine hundred banks. Oh yeah, that's that's a

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:25.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of man. So three thirty or four that Sunday,

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 1>the police show up at Lloyd's. But everything looks fine

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>on the outside, much like Hatton Gardens. The vaults timelock

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>meant that like no one could get in there anyway.

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>So fine, the police leave. The gang finishes up their work.

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>They packed their loot, their booty into a nearby van,

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 1>and they drive to Tucker's house to divvy things up.

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 1>In all, they are said to have stolen an estimated

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>one point five million pounds closer they think to three million.

0:31:56.320 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty big booty. Cash, jewelry, gold, other valuables. Sorry,

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>it was right there, it was perfect. I set it up.

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 1>You knocked it out of the park. Um all these

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 1>other valuables again quote unquote music boxes. The other thing, too,

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of the people who lost stuff wouldn't

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>say what they lost. That's why they think it was

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot more. This is a common This is common

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>with the in the safe deposit boxes are like what

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>was in it? Family photos? I mean I can tell

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>you the value, we would need it itemized. I can't

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>do that. So let's take a moment. You're gonna listen

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 1>to some ads, just you know, sit and enjoy them.

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>When we come back, I'm going to tell you how

0:32:39.080 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>it all fell apart for these goog calls. Okay, okay,

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Monday sept do we want to whatever? Nine o'clock in

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>the morning, a Lloyd's Bank employee opens the vault doors

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 1>to find everything in disarray, as well as a hole

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>in the floor. The police also discovered walkie talkies tools

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>they left. That's loads of excavated dirt, sounds of stuff,

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>a powerful jack, powerful jack. They just left everything. This

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 1>is the before DNA evidence. So they're like, yeah, whatever dusted.

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't give up, but I mean you could you

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>could resell some of that stuff. I don't think they're

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 1>worried about profit at that point. They're worried about money. Well, yeah,

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm with you. Want not well they could

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>give that to other criminals, to the criminal Tool Bank forward.

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Based on the crime, the police presumed that the thief

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>had to have inside knowledge of the vault and the

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:02.479
<v Speaker 1>bank though is like, you know what, we are not

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>giving out the box holders names or any other information. Yeah. Uh.

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>The bank was also unhelpful in dealing with property that

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>had been strewn around on the floor, right, They just

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 1>piled it up on tables outside the vault and they

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>took possession of it all without police involvement. What do

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>you mean, So they just said, like this is now

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 1>a bank property because it's on our floor. They just

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 1>like scooped it up and put it in the pirate

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>like nobody looks that's evidence, don't check um. And so

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:35.879
<v Speaker 1>one box holder, he said he went to go check

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and see if his valuables were on the table, his

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 1>blackmail photos. No one checked his I D And he

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 1>found that jewelry that was like on this pile had

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>fallen into trash cans next to the desk. Yeah, it's

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>so sloppy. So finally a list of two and ten

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:55.240
<v Speaker 1>box holders was given to the police, but the police

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:57.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't think it was a full list, so they asked again.

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Then they get the names of two hundred sixty of

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and sixty eight box holders. So they're just

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>like that the queen and her cousin, well around one

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:13.320
<v Speaker 1>hundred of the box holders. They declined to report their losses,

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 1>declined to specify the full extent of the loss. They

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>won't file anything with the cops. The police used a

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:22.879
<v Speaker 1>network of informants to gather information on who robbed the bank,

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:26.280
<v Speaker 1>and pretty soon they came up with Gavin and Tucker,

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 1>main guy and the one with the bank account. How

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>did they informants informants every time? So on the morning

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>of Friday, October nine one, the police watched Tucker hand

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:43.359
<v Speaker 1>over a bag to two men. They swoop in, they

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>arrest the guys and there's thirty two thou pounds in

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>cash in the bag. Yeah. Tucker gets arrested later that day.

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>He confessed that the cash from earlier was from the bank,

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 1>but he said he wasn't part of the robbery. Got

0:35:57.080 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the cream. Yeah, So Gavin and Steve is they're arrested

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:05.959
<v Speaker 1>October Gavin said, look, I only dug the tunnel. I'm

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>just the diggerman, and Stevens said that he had only

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>supplied the tools. I went out, I got them nuts

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and then there you go. So Wolf that's the bankrupt

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:21.720
<v Speaker 1>businessman who rented the sack. Yeah, he was also arrested.

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Totally denied involvement. He's like, I'm just a humble leather salesman.

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I am, but a bankrupt businessman. Exactly the Governor Mills.

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Two mystery men never caught arrested. Yeah, apparently, though the

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 1>name of the explosives expert involved was given to the police,

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>but he wasn't arrested either. Yeah. It's later alleged, though,

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 1>that two senior officers in the case pocketed a million

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 1>pounds in diamonds from Baker Street in exchange for letting

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.240
<v Speaker 1>those guys off the hook. I think that they greased

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 1>the wheels with that. Only around two hundred and thirty

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 1>one thousand hounds of the stolen goods were ever recovered

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>millions of right, and the cops can consider that a

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>success because I got some back, right, Yeah, and the

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>insurance covers the rest, we would hope. So the case

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>goes to trial January three, Gavin Tucker Stevens. They all

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>plead guilty, and they're convicted and sentenced to twelve years

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 1>in prison each year. But they hold the bag. They don't.

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 1>They don't make snitch on everybody else. Nobody snitches on

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 1>the Governor. Stevens later appealed and he was able to

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:35.360
<v Speaker 1>reduce his sentence to eight years. Um Wolf. He pleads

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:39.479
<v Speaker 1>not guilty, convicted eight years. In that book, One Last

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Job they said that quote. In the years after Baker Street,

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:46.839
<v Speaker 1>a number of myths have grown up around the job.

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:51.399
<v Speaker 1>One of the earliest misconceptions surrounded an alleged police cover

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 1>up in the aftermath. It's been claimed that a D

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 1>notice was issued asking the press not to publish any

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 1>detail of the raids on grounds of NASH Security m

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>national security. For what reason. Well, the radio guy Richard rawlins,

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:13.359
<v Speaker 1>he said the police confiscated his recording and he said

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>there was also this this gag order on it, but

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>he thought it was just an excuse to hide police incompetence. Okay.

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Former Scotland Yard Detective Inspector David Woodland, he wrote in

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>his twenty fifteen book Crime and Corruption at the Yard.

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 1>He said that m I five had placed the government

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>gag order, the d notice on all press, effectively banning

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>any further reporting dude to national security. So this keeps

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 1>popping up this national security. What we're in these safety

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 1>deposit boxes. And also that they these guys go to prison.

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 1>So whatever they found, they couldn't have been too aware

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 1>of it because they otherwise they would have disappeared. To

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 1>write The Guardian, UH and the Mirror, they both said

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that they were approached directly by senior government officials and

0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 1>told to drop the story. The press or you know,

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:05.359
<v Speaker 1>agencies were asked to keep things confidential. Um namely, they

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:08.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't want anyone to know that Rowlands had made that recording,

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:12.359
<v Speaker 1>but they told they wrote about it anyway, what did

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:17.360
<v Speaker 1>they care? So whatever happens four days after the robbery,

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:22.320
<v Speaker 1>reporting mysteriously stops and just cuts it off. Many people

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 1>later speculated that the reason for that d notice was

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 1>because compromising photos of Princess Margaret had been found. This

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 1>ringing a bell for you, that driver, right, So there

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 1>was also according to that book, One Last Job. The

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 1>rumor was that black power and civil rights activist Michael

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:45.320
<v Speaker 1>X had compromising photos of the Queen's sister, Princess Margaret

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:48.719
<v Speaker 1>on holiday with her lover, Roddy Llewellyn, and that he

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:51.720
<v Speaker 1>stored them in the Baker Street vault. And he said

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>that m I five organized the break in to spare

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:58.959
<v Speaker 1>the royal family's blushes. So it's not even like they're

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 1>The whole break in was just to get the pictures

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 1>of Princess Margaret back. Now, what you're also thinking of.

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Another alternate theory is that there were photos of Princess

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Margaret with infamous London gangster turned actor John Bindon. Yes,

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 1>that's the story we heard. So, yeah, Zarin, you and

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I were once in the lift in Los Angeles. Our

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>driver was an Englishman. He had wild stories about it.

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Yeah he's talking. You're talking about the

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 1>two guns Benton because of his enormous and then he

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, and Princess Margaret was like so winded, and

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>they were like in Jamaica and they're doing all the

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>nudest stuff and they were on Michael X, the Black

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Power activists, and he has all the stuff where he

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>was basically not in war but trying to like blackmail

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 1>the UK government and then he gets involved in a

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:44.359
<v Speaker 1>whole other thing and then comes to his own terrible end.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, that story was insane. He had crazy insight,

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the whole break in and the tapes that

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<v Speaker 1>were in apparently the boxes. He talked and because he

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<v Speaker 1>knew them, Yeah, I know, he knew the dude he knew. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he knew Benton. Yeah, he was the dry It was

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<v Speaker 1>a photographer, like a fashion fashion dude back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>And he used to drink with Benton in the pubs

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<v Speaker 1>to just come in and be like just the most charming,

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<v Speaker 1>carousing figure, and you can see why Princess Margaret would

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<v Speaker 1>go for him. And then there was the really dark

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<v Speaker 1>stuff he started getting into. We were like, ohh, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't okay, yeah, it got a little uncomfortable. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>this turned into one of those aber driver moment where

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<v Speaker 1>you like, I can't believe I'm paying for this. So

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<v Speaker 1>that is the Baker Street robbery that takes I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe forever to hear it. I was waiting and waiting,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your ridiculous takeaway? And it took me so long

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up. I'm over here standing in the shadow,

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<v Speaker 1>like what's going on? Why is it dark? Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard almost the entire story. And then the Princess

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<v Speaker 1>Margaret had all clicked. I was like, wait a minute

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<v Speaker 1>to break in to cover up, and he said it

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<v Speaker 1>was yes, there, I love this one. My takeaway, since

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<v Speaker 1>you asked, is the unsinkable spirit of the Governor. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>loving the guy he gets busted for his first crime

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<v Speaker 1>when he's eleven years old. I feel recall that was

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<v Speaker 1>his first bust. Criming was in his bones. He'd never

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<v Speaker 1>give it up, and like he wasn't the best at it,

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<v Speaker 1>but gosh darn it, he's going to give it as all.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's still tough. He learned to walk on a getaway,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. He did, and then he fell and hurt

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<v Speaker 1>his head. That is it for today. That's all I have.

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