1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of I Heart Radio. Hey 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Dutton, what's up, Mary? It's you know, it's up. 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: It's good. How are you. I've been been well, being 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: pretty well. I'd like to hear that. You know, it's ridiculous. 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Oh yes, actually I do. In in London, thieves, just 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: normal thieves. They were out and they pounced on this 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: person who was about to get in their car and 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: they stole the car. And it turned out that the 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: car was an ambulance and it was a very special 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: kind of ambulance. This was an emergency circumcision ambulance. Yes, 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: I need more information, girl, do you This emergency circumcision 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: ambulance was also an Audi T T. And if you 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: don't know sports cars, imagine a smooth backed German sports car. 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: That is it the aud E T T. Now what's 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: going on with the emergency circumcision that you need a 16 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: sports car to get this kind of emergency? So many 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: emergency circumcisions are there. We gotta get this baby cut 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: stat I got a middle aged man and needs a circumcision. 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: It's a reversal. I don't understand this. Yeah. Well, Also, 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: while we're at it, I found a photo. So this 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: is what it looks like. The EGENC. It was like 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: when I open ah. No, the emergency circumcision ambulance is 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: a green and yellow out e T T that is loud, loud, 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna miss it. No, not at all. 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: I still, so, did you ever find out did you 26 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: look into what this emergency circumcision thing is about? I 27 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: could not find much. I was looking like on Vice 28 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: UK in different places, and it's mostly people just covered 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: the theft right and then finding the actual answer. It's 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: just as medical response on it. So I couldn't find 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: a company. I couldn't. So we need to go to 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: London call and be like, hurry, we need a circumcision, 33 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: hurry stats and then when they show up we interview them. Okay, 34 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: I like this, don't The Italian police have like a 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: Ferrari they use or something like that for I believe, 36 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: I believe. And then the in Dubai they have almost 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: an entire fleet of sports cars for the police because 38 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: they had so many wealthy jerks who go out there 39 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: and drive super fast in the desert that they needed 40 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: their own supercars to catch them. So they have like 41 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: mcclarens and Ferraris and Lamborghinis and like just a ton 42 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: of like super supercars and the whole. The Italian one 43 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: is to take organ donations. Oh yeah, that's actual. That's 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: like the medical one the Ambulans talking about. I was 45 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: going with the police. Yeah, well they're all the the 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: I don't know authorities whatever they are. So yes, ridiculous 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: emergency circumcision. Yes, so there you go, totally ridiculous. Um, 48 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what else is ridiculous. A bank heist 49 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: that is a premonition, a preview of a later ridiculous 50 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: bank heist. Wit, a premonition of a bank HAIs like 51 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: a psychic kind of pition. Shall be foretold. This is 52 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime. A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers. He 53 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 1: cons It's always murder free and one ridiculous damn right. 54 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember, Zaren when I told you about the 55 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: Hatton Garden heist? Is back? Oh I love an old 56 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: crew of bankrupt old age pensioners. They concocted a heist 57 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: in busted into a vault full of gems and untold riches. 58 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: Um story I want to tell you today is very similar, 59 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: more criminal silver backs. Well, it's a bit of a crossover. 60 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: It's sort of an origin story because we have a 61 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: repeat offender. Were our first person to come back twice? Yeah? 62 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: Did you know? Did you know they're recording us right now? Dave? 63 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: What did you know that yet? Anyway, why would he 64 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: do that? Well, we'll find out. So we have a 65 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: repeat offender here. And do you remember the ringleader of 66 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: the Hatton Gardens heist. Ringleader had a cool name he was. 67 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: He had a car dealership in like a shabby sheek 68 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: rambling home. Yes, yes, the Governor none other than Brian Reader. 69 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't think of that part of his name. I 70 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: got the nicknames. So Brian Reader a k a. The 71 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: Governor was one of the masterminds behind the crazy bank 72 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: robbery that I'm going to tell you about today. And 73 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: I need you to also note that the Governor denied 74 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: any involvement at all in this one. So when we 75 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: first met him, we were talking about twelve with the 76 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: Hatton Gardens heist. This is different. This is nineteen seventy 77 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: that he cooks this up. Oin Um. So he has 78 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: this little gang going around stealings, doing those little stealings. 79 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: One of the guys in his gang is named Anthony Gavin, 80 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, for his familiars. He was a photographer in 81 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: his late thirties. At the time, he read a Sherlock 82 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: Holmes short story written by Arthur Conan Doyle. Of course, 83 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: another cross over here. It's just all woven together. It's 84 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: called The Redheaded League. Oh yes, and this one, this 85 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: was very inspirational to all detectives. Well, it inspired old 86 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: Tony Gavin. In the story, the thieves tunnel into a vault, 87 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: but in the story they tunnel right into the arms 88 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: of these detectives. So he's like, I can I can 89 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: figure out a better way to do this. Now, another thing, 90 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: I'd like you to note, the Holmes headquarters were on 91 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: Baker Street right, correct, exactly. So An't has an idea. 92 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: He figures out that he can pull off a tunnel 93 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: heist way better than the crooks in the homes tale. 94 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: You know, everyone always thinks they're smarter than everybody else. 95 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: He took this idea to the governor, and the governor 96 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: he had, Governor, Young Governor, that's my new rap name 97 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: had recently suffered a head injury when he slipped and fell. Well, 98 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: so I don't mean to laugh at recently head injury. 99 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: Here's why we're laughing, because because head injuries are no 100 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: laughing matter, they can make a man strange for the 101 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: rest of his day. But the governor there were a 102 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: lot of injuries involved in Hatton Gardens, and so that's 103 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: why the bad luck was predetermined. So he slips and 104 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: falls while he's escaping from a building that he's like 105 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: scoping out a building for robbery. Someone catches sight of 106 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: him and he's like runs and then boyk hits his 107 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 1: head and has That's that's the sounds I just played 108 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: on the recording. Um. So he couldn't he couldn't never 109 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: get anything right. He's still though, with all his bumbling, 110 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: he's stone cold. Oh yeah, he's a hard man. Have 111 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: seen as a clown. He's a veteran criminal exactly, even 112 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: as a young man. So Gavin and the gov They 113 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: go and they get this guy, Reginald Tucker, and he's 114 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: a reggie. He's a used car dealer. Um. And then 115 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: also he would say that his car dealer, he would 116 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: say sometimes that his job was a company director. That's vague. 117 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: Then there's this other guy, Thomas Stevens. He's another used 118 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: car dealer. Just the whole clan of don't forget the 119 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: governor went and how to use car. I'm laughing, like 120 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: all these guys are like, yeah, what do you do? 121 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: I push used cars. I still use cars. I'm gonna 122 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: use cars dealer. So Bobby Mills is another dude pushing 123 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: warm cars, not hot cars. Warm Gently's Bobby Mills is 124 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: another friend of the governors, so they bring him into this. 125 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: Then there's Mickey Skinny GERVAISI sounds like a boy band Tommy. 126 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: Mickey Skinny is a burglar alarm expert. Okay, you need 127 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: one of those always. Um. And then there are these 128 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 1: two unidentified people to this day unidentified, one of whom 129 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: was an explosives expert. This is totally Ocean's eleven. Yeah. 130 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: It's also the Professionals Bank. It's everything. That's all the 131 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: great like Gang Group movies, like, Okay, we need this professional, 132 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: we need this expert. It's also you know, it's La 133 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: La Land, which I don't know, I've never seen it. 134 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: Oh that's the dancing oscar, the accidental whatever. Yeah. Um, okay. 135 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: So these two other mystery guys. One is named little 136 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: Legs and the other one is named th h that's 137 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: all we know of now. The th h they it 138 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: was rumored was connected with a really corrupt Scotland yard 139 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: detective inspector. But it's all umor in supposition was to 140 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: be like tight with bad guys, tight with a sort 141 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: of good guy. Okay, okay, I'm with it. So this 142 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: rag tag bunch they get together, they decide they're going 143 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: to target the Baker Street branch of Lloyd's Bank on 144 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: the corner of Baker Street and Marleybourne Road. Know what 145 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: that means? Me too? At Baker Street. So December seven seventy, 146 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: Reginald Tucker, car dealer slash company director. He goes into 147 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: the bank and he opens a bank account with five 148 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: pounds it's a good quantity of money. Then he uses 149 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: the name G. Edwards, not his real name, and a 150 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: fake home address to open this account. The bank doesn't 151 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: check the references that he supplied. They didn't notice that 152 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: the address that he gave was actually a news agent's, 153 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, like a New Stork store. Whatever. They're like, yeah, 154 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: I have an account. Great. Two months later, Tucker goes 155 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: and he gets a safe deposit box at the Bank Inc. 156 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: At number three seventeen. If you're taking notes letters that 157 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: cost as two pounds fifty pence a month. Okay, so 158 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: like the rent for the safe positive to let it 159 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: to let exactly. He didn't keep much in it, but 160 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: it gave him access to the vault. Yes exactly, I'm 161 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: with you. You know how easy how they do? So 162 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: he'd sign in under his fake name and then they 163 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: escort him to the vault two staff members Mr. Edwards. 164 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: They'd used the two key thing and then they're like, 165 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: you know what, We're going to leave you in this 166 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: vault for your privacy, to look at your my little 167 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: pony collection. There are some white gloves, all your precious memories. Um. 168 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: And so Tucker would go in there and his job 169 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: was like memorizing the inside of the vault, drawing up 170 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: a plan, coming up with sematic. Yeah. So he'd go 171 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: into the vault just like he's a businessman. He'd wear 172 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: a bowler hat and a pinstripe suit. You gotta love 173 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: a costume. He's looking like the guy from them Great Painting. 174 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: He's coming in with a bowler and he's assisting this 175 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: puzz um. He would also carry an umbrella and he 176 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: used that to measure the inside of the vaults. Okay, 177 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: so I'm just picturing John Kleee doing all of this 178 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: and it's really working for but also would probably look 179 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: like a dance routine where he's like setting the umbrella up, 180 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: taking some steps down. Like this poor guy has nowhere 181 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: to rehearse, so he comes in here. It also turns 182 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: out that the floor tiles were a standard nine inches 183 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: each and that was super helpful, so makes measuring a snap. 184 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: He Uh. He goes to the vault thirteen different times, 185 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: and five times in the month before the heist, so 186 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: he's just like constantly checking out his safe deposit box 187 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: two times in the week before the heist. Now is 188 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: this like a learning anything for the Bank of the 189 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: don't this? This guy, he's a businessman, wants to come 190 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: and then just feel his my little pony ponies, you know, 191 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: tips his hat to him and goes in there and 192 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: looks through his dust, his jewels or whatever he does. Yeah, 193 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: he has like old rinsed out yogurt containers. Did not 194 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: but do you know, I picture everything, so now it's 195 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: right there. You know, you're welcome, and he just like 196 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: he looks at it and he remembers the good times. 197 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: Such a good yo play Blueberry day. So that's what 198 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: he's gotten his safe deploset box if he asked me. 199 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: The vault at Lloyd's Bank Baker Street was built of 200 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: reinforced concrete. It had two doors and it was behind 201 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: a locked sliding grill, so you know it's pretty secure. 202 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: The main door had an alarm and a lock that 203 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: was set to a timer, so no one, not even 204 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: the employees, could open it outside of normal business, so 205 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: you better not get stuck in there. He checks this 206 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: all out. They find out too, that the bottom was 207 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: eighteen inches. There's also another source that I found that 208 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: said it was three ft of double reinforced concrete. The floor, yeah, 209 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: or the bottom as I call it. I was wondering, like, 210 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: you know what, excuse me, I need to go vacuum 211 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: the bottom from the walls of the bottom. You've been sweeping. 212 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: The houses are rocking so impenetrable. They say, okay, And 213 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: the bottom is not connected to an alarm system. The 214 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: floor it was fancy, people call it the floor. No 215 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: alarm system on the floor. Two doors down from the 216 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: bank on Baker Street, there's a struggling leather good store. 217 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: The store I just love struggling weather goods. You know, 218 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: they're just trying to make the like, come on five, 219 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: the hobo bag. This is not what it used to 220 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: be on the market. The store is called les Sack. See, 221 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: this is why I'm thinking about that French. No, it's 222 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: not sports sack. You know, that's all like the parachute material. 223 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: Isn't this big in the eighties, But that's a different one. 224 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: Sports sack. Oh, yes, I know you're talking about. It 225 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: was a big eighties thing and I just am going 226 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: to give a little bit of a reveal. Open up 227 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: my world. That's the kind of wallet I can You're 228 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: always and I'm so up to date. Anyway, Lasak going 229 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: out of business. I'm so shocked. The basement of the 230 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: shop was at the same level as the bank vault. 231 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: This is going to be handy, yeah, and they were 232 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: only they weren't next door though there's two doors down. 233 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: They're separated by a fast food restaurant called Chicken In. 234 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: Chicken In and don't want to know it comes out 235 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: I n M. It's like a where salesman Chicken come 236 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: down the ricken in town and you're in London and 237 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: you're like, we're kind of good poultry like me find 238 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: a home. They're like, come on in, and they just 239 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: march them right into a fryar. It's a little bait 240 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: and switch. The spot today is a taco bell. Oh 241 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: a tradition going. Yeah, So the gang they recruit a 242 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: recently bankrupt businessman named Benny Wolf. Okay, you're gonna like, 243 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna think I'm making this up or to be 244 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: like that gonna be Burnett, But I swear to you 245 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: this is pretty much the plot of a movie with 246 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: ever g Robinson from the thirties, and he has a 247 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: leather good store that they use its next door to 248 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: to break in. They go through the basement of the 249 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: leather good store. Are you kidding me? Like you're telling 250 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: me that. I'm like, I've seen this. Maybe they wanted 251 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: to sound smart by being like, oh, we got it 252 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: from a short story. We were just sitting around reading. 253 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: What is this film you talk about? No the cinema? Yeah, no, 254 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: I think, well who knows? So he Benny Wolf convinces 255 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: a former assistant of his named Molly Adams to put 256 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: her name on the deed of the sack. He couldn't 257 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: do it because he'd recently declared bankruptcy. So we have 258 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: our legitimate businessman, who is a legitimate exactly. So August one, 259 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: the purchase goes through, he gets the shop, gang goes in, 260 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: they close up shop, they hang science. They're like, we're 261 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: going to reopen later in September. So you know, neighbor, 262 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: it's eagerly remodeling. Come back soon. Friday, August the heist commences. 263 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: So Stevens, who's the other car dealer. He'd been tasked 264 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: with getting tools. He had to get a powerful jack. 265 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: And what why are you laughing? You leveled your eyes 266 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: and be powerful jack. I was just talking and a 267 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: thermal lance. You get it again, so you can take 268 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: it again. I don't even know what does the thermal lance. 269 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: I actually I do know. I just like how you 270 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: can change meetings just with your tone of void completely. 271 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: That was the first essay I ever wrote, and you 272 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: had like it was like sixth grade you had to 273 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: write an essay. I wrote a whole like persuasion piece 274 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: on how the tone can make anything sexual. I was 275 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: not allowed to turn next grade six. Well, I wrote 276 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: one in third grade, so sup about innuendo? You know? 277 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: It was like, I'm so sorry for your teachers throughout 278 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: the years. Oh yeah, as am I yeah. But Powerful 279 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: Jack and Thermal Lance. Is that sounding familiar to you? 280 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: It's time. Well it sounds like stars of a film, 281 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: Powerful Jack and Thermal Lance because it's to Jack and 282 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: Lance as her first names. I'm with you right there. 283 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm actually like, you know, who cares? Who knows? Listen. 284 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: They're similar to the list of tools in the Hatton 285 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: Garden Heights. It's very similar. Okay, So Bobby Mills, the 286 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: one who is old friends with the governor, he chickens 287 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,239 Speaker 1: out at the last minute. Governor has a hard time. 288 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: I mean, he just could not get good guys. He 289 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: does not have good crew retention. But they convinced him, okay, 290 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: be the lookout. He could do practice runs. Yeah, now 291 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: I hope, like remember the lookout from Hatton. That's what 292 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying, all right. So also, remember I told you 293 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: the governor had a head injury during his recent escape. Well, 294 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: he's like, I can't dig head injury. I dented my brain, pan, 295 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: I can't dig. So this is kind of shades of 296 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: Kenny the diabetic from Patton Gardens. You know, they've all 297 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: got these ailments. Now, let's take a break now that 298 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: we've established all this, and when we come back, I'm 299 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: going to tell you about how they set up their 300 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: little plan. Hey Aaron, Hey, I'm back. My name is 301 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: Thermal Lance and I am powerful jock. That's where I 302 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: think if we ever have to go somewhere and like 303 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: sign in as something like drewry Duty, Oh no, it's 304 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: not Elizabeth and it's Thermal Lance, they're like, oh, sorry, 305 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: we got the wrong personal he and I'll walk away. 306 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: What was I talking about? Baker Street, Yes, the robbery 307 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: and the Yeah, okay, so Gavin the homes fan, Tucker, 308 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: the guy who did the whole vault measuring, and then 309 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: one of the unnamed members. Yeah, they drilled through les 310 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: Saks six inch concrete floor and then they hit Clay 311 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: So next door chicken In. Um, not like Bobby Mills 312 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: who was Chicken out. Hey, uh so the digger guys 313 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: they realized that chicken In's foundation wall was actually lower 314 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: than they had realized, so they had to dig under 315 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: and around that before they got to the vault. Like 316 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: you know, the I think chicken In is more heavily 317 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: reinforced than Lloyd's Bank. Yeah, sounds like it. And they 318 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: kind of take their stuff. So when you're taking the 319 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: chickens to their final reward, you wanted solid um. Gavin 320 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: was apparently in super good shape. I guess he was 321 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: also like a part time physical therapist. They had the um. 322 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: He did most of the work and he was like, 323 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident. He wore tight T shirts, no T 324 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: shirt at all. Top. He later said that he lost 325 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: almost two stones twenty eight pounds twelve or fourteen pounds. 326 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: I can never remember water weight. Did he lose a limb? 327 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: I So remember they get started on a Friday. They 328 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: keep digging till Monday morning, and then they're like, okay, 329 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: you know what, let's let's keep going next weekend. Let's 330 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: take a break. This is our weekend gig um, very 331 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: big weekend project. It takes, you know, digging a hole 332 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: takes a long time. You always see on TV and 333 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: movies there's like a criminal digs a grave for someone. 334 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: It's all clean, smooth walls six ft deep. That's not reality, 335 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: no no, and they do it in like an hour, 336 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, or what's supposed to be in our you 337 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: know that a TV show that's guilty of this, Sons 338 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: of anarchy, oh, yeah, the fastest hole diggers in the world. Yeah, 339 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: they like toss someone to shovel and then they cut 340 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: to them in an undershirt, like wiping their forehead with 341 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: their arms as they stand in that perfectly chiseled out, 342 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: super deep hole. Um, and then there's always a pile 343 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: of dirt next to it that in no way is 344 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: the same volume as the amount of dirt, but it 345 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: definitely looks like an industrial equipment had lifted it out 346 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 1: of the hole and piled it there. And then they 347 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: like toss them in and they're like, okay, fill it up, 348 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, and whatever. If they did that in real life, 349 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: it would be sort of this rounded, lumpy thing that's 350 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: like three f three weeks later. Yeah, anyway, they come back, 351 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: they go to work next weekend. They dug a forty 352 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: foot twelve inch by fourteen inch tunnel under the vault. 353 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: Twelve inch Wait, that doesn't seem big enough for people, 354 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: but that's what I read, and so the tunnel was 355 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: called a remarkable piece of engineering during the later trial. 356 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: It had to be bigger than that, otherwise they're like 357 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: slithering through turned shoulder and I separated shoulders two ft 358 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: by four feet makes me comfortable. Let's go with that. 359 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't really matter. They dug a tunnel 360 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: um who knows, who cares the crew. They also carved 361 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: out of space seven ft wide and five ft high 362 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: directly under the vault's workable. Yeah, and that's where they 363 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: could work. They set up the jack, the powerful jack um, 364 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: a couple of railway ties that I suppose they brought 365 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: with railway ties. That's like, I guess pieces of the 366 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: ground that was like too wet to support the pressure 367 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: of the drilling and the ties kept sinking into the ground. 368 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: We have some so siden's issues. They also tried using 369 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: the thermal leaves um, but it too could not break 370 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: through the concrete. Yeah, so they're like, guess what, all right, 371 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: we're running out of time. Let's go next weekend into this, 372 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: so we'll regroup. Are they going to have to hit 373 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: up a home improvement big box store? Oh no, I mean, 374 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm figuring the best way for them at this point 375 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: is is to reconsider the use of tools like maybe 376 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: some explosives. Ha ha ha. See you should have been 377 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: running this from the beginning, right, so check it out. 378 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: It's taken them through weekends. They're able to dig down 379 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: there below the vault. The tools aren't working. It's too 380 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: damp with chicken grease. So they call in the explosives expert. 381 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: Nice shape charges, that's your answer. I'm gonna go ahead 382 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: and say that that guy was little legs. Yeah, just 383 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: like that, and he dorfon explosives, little legs. He gets 384 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: some gelic knight. Okay, jelic knight. Hey Elizabeth, what's gelic knight? 385 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: Acting like you know, I'm gonna play it cool, like, 386 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: oh yeah, jelic knight. That's that's the right choice. That's 387 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: what I go with. It's either thermite or what you 388 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: say or boom boom powder um well. Wikipedia defines gelic knight, 389 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: also known as blasting gelatine or simply jelly. Are you 390 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: ready for this, Cheli? I don't think I can handle 391 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: this kind of heat? They say. It's an explosive material 392 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: consisting of colade in cotton dissolved in either nitroglycerin or 393 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: nitro glycol and mixed with wood, pulp and salt peter. 394 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: It was invented in eighteen seventy five by Swedish chemist 395 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: Alfred Nobel Oh on his way to T and T. 396 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: Also invented the dynamite in today's society. Now that I'm 397 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: doing all the bad essay things. I had an uncle 398 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: who taught me how to make explosives out of like 399 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: common household ingredients like styrofoam and stuff, And this one 400 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: sounds a lot like a recipe he taught me. I'm 401 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: wondering if he's like free verst Off of that. Probably Riffin. 402 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: Uh so little Legs, you got himself, some gellic Knight, 403 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: and he's ready to blow the absolute cottage cheese out 404 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: of that Bault floor. So the group, they're concerned that 405 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: the explosion is going to be heard outside, so they 406 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: rent walkie talkies so they can coordinate with their outside 407 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: I'd look out, scaredy cat Mills and uh Friday, September 408 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: t pm, Lloyd's Bank closes again for the weekend game 409 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: comes back for weekend activities. Mills he's posted up at 410 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: the top of ninety four Baker Street that had a 411 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: clear view at the bank, so they really aren't that 412 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: far from they're living it. Do you know what was 413 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: located at ninety four Baker Street a few years prior 414 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: to this. I'm gonna go with a turkey shack. It 415 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: was the original Apple store where the Beatles had opened 416 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: their short lived Apple boutique. Oh yeah, like Apple records 417 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: of the original Yeah, that's that's completely completely irrelevant to 418 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. But that's my that's my jam. 419 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: Thank you for the information. So the gang drills holes 420 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: in the concrete under the vault, fills them with gelic Knight. 421 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: They connected back to a generator in La Sachs basement 422 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: using this series of cables tubes. Uh Mills, he's keeping 423 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: an eye on things, and they set off the explosives 424 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: around twelve thirty am Saturday, September eleven, coinciding with a 425 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: green light and moving traffic to help block the noise. 426 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: So Mills is like waiting till the light changes. That 427 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: truck comes, Go go, go truck. They get lucky. The 428 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: whole that they ended up making in the bottom of 429 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: the vault um it had a bank trolley directly over 430 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: it and that helped muffle the sound. So all these 431 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: things working together, they get in the vault. They go 432 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: to work. The governor. He's an expert at opening safe 433 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: deposit boxes. They worked all day. Okay, maybe I'm wrong here, 434 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: but I didn't think there was such a thing as 435 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: an expert in getting into safe depositible. I thought you 436 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: did pry your way. You know what. You didn't think 437 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: there was such a thing as emergency circumcision, or at 438 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: least unaware of learning, constantly learning. Stay curious. Remember that 439 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: he didn't get to use that expertise though, decades later 440 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: for Hatton Gardens. Remember he just noped out of there. Yeah, 441 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: so this time he did the hard work, he put 442 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: in the effort way to hustle. Good game, Good game, zaren. 443 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: I want you to close your eyes, okay, just for 444 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: no reason, I want you to picture it. It's eleven 445 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: o'clock on a Saturday night. A man named Robert Rowlands 446 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: is patting around his fourth floor apartment on Whimpole Street. 447 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: Now he's going to settle in for his typical late 448 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: night routine of turning on his American Forces radio, putting 449 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: some vaseline on his feet, going on his sox. Yes, 450 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: he's cutting loose on a Saturday night there, bubby. Uh, 451 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: he's really hoping to tune into Radio Luxembourg makes him 452 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: feel fancy. Instead, he hears a man's voice in English 453 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: coming through. Clearly, the man is talking about a vault 454 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: Luton whatnot that is not Radio Luxembourg. Know your pal 455 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: Robert comes to the conclusion that he's listening to a 456 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: robbery taking place nearby. That is so exciting for him. 457 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: I love this for his Saturday night. So he calls 458 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: the local precinct. They don't take him seriously and they're like, 459 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: you know what, okay, yeah, sure you're here and record 460 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: it and get back to us, and then they like 461 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: snicker and hang up the phone. It makes me wonder 462 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: if maybe he'd called them previously with other outlange, or 463 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: if he started off with okay, Normally on a Saturday, 464 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: I like to listen to Radio Luxenberg, but this Saturday 465 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: they're like, oh man, you know yeah, we get a 466 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: lot of these. So here's the thing. Though conveniently, Rolands 467 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: has a cassette recorder at his house of because he 468 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: uses it to practice his Spanish. What he just talks 469 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: to him cute yeah? Did he like listens to himself, 470 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: gets better at how he says in Spanish according to 471 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: his own ear. But he doesn't speak Spanish or don't 472 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: want to hear it to correct. Well, I don't know, 473 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: Like when I was in high school in French class. 474 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: We used to have to read like questions and then 475 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: answer them on a cassette and then this is you're 476 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: seeing how old I am? And then leave him with 477 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: the teacher. And she was supposed to like listen to 478 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: them to see if not only were we writing it? Yeah, 479 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: and I just didn't study and this isn't senior year, 480 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: and so every question that came up, I go, oh, 481 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, it didn't fly, didn't it didn't. Um. 482 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: So he's like this one man party machine. He's got 483 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: a cassette recorder. He records the thieves arguing mostly with 484 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: Mills outside about whether to stop for the night er 485 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: keep going. He must be hearing this the most random stuff. 486 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: We gotta light okay, no light? Yeah, he has the recording. 487 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: He calls the cops again, but this time he calls 488 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: the main line at Scotland Yard. He doesn't trust the precincts, 489 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: and um, they take him seriously. They send officers over. 490 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: Now it's interesting. Later the police threatened to prosecute Mr 491 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: Rollins for listening to an unlicensed radio station. Is that 492 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:02,239 Speaker 1: a thing? Radio station crossover? Okay? Lloyd's bank, though, gave 493 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: him a pound reward. Good job, dude. So in the 494 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: morning September twelve, Sunday, the thieves start talking again. They're 495 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: telling Mills, we're going to finish off here in the 496 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: bank and uh, we shall be coming out early this 497 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: afternoon and you'll just have to bluff bluff your way 498 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: straight off the road. Yeah. There's this book called One 499 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: Last Job, written by two guys from the Daily Mirror, 500 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: Tom Petaphor and Nick Summerland. They said quote police needed 501 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: technical help and fast. They asked the BBC and the 502 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: Post Office for assistance in tracking down the broadcasts in 503 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: hope of catching the burglars in the act. We did 504 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: receive considerable assistance, but the equipment they had was the 505 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: type which was not much help. We were told by 506 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: one of the radio detection experts that we would search 507 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: an area within a seven mile radius of Mr Rowland's flat, 508 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: and this involved a huge number of banks and similar premises. 509 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: That advice left police with an area of one hundred 510 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: and fifty four square miles of central London to search. 511 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: It contained hundreds of banks, and officers began the process 512 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: of contacting the head offices of all of them. Right 513 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: they contacted nine hundred banks. Oh yeah, that's that's a 514 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: lot of man. So three thirty or four that Sunday, 515 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: the police show up at Lloyd's. But everything looks fine 516 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: on the outside, much like Hatton Gardens. The vaults timelock 517 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: meant that like no one could get in there anyway. 518 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: So fine, the police leave. The gang finishes up their work. 519 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: They packed their loot, their booty into a nearby van, 520 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: and they drive to Tucker's house to divvy things up. 521 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: In all, they are said to have stolen an estimated 522 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: one point five million pounds closer they think to three million. 523 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: That's a pretty big booty. Cash, jewelry, gold, other valuables. Sorry, 524 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: it was right there, it was perfect. I set it up. 525 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: You knocked it out of the park. Um all these 526 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: other valuables again quote unquote music boxes. The other thing, too, 527 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: is a lot of the people who lost stuff wouldn't 528 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: say what they lost. That's why they think it was 529 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: a lot more. This is a common This is common 530 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: with the in the safe deposit boxes are like what 531 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: was in it? Family photos? I mean I can tell 532 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: you the value, we would need it itemized. I can't 533 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: do that. So let's take a moment. You're gonna listen 534 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: to some ads, just you know, sit and enjoy them. 535 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: When we come back, I'm going to tell you how 536 00:32:39,080 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: it all fell apart for these goog calls. Okay, okay, 537 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: Monday sept do we want to whatever? Nine o'clock in 538 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: the morning, a Lloyd's Bank employee opens the vault doors 539 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: to find everything in disarray, as well as a hole 540 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: in the floor. The police also discovered walkie talkies tools 541 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: they left. That's loads of excavated dirt, sounds of stuff, 542 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: a powerful jack, powerful jack. They just left everything. This 543 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: is the before DNA evidence. So they're like, yeah, whatever dusted. 544 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't give up, but I mean you could you 545 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: could resell some of that stuff. I don't think they're 546 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: worried about profit at that point. They're worried about money. Well, yeah, 547 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: I know, I'm with you. Want not well they could 548 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: give that to other criminals, to the criminal Tool Bank forward. 549 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: Based on the crime, the police presumed that the thief 550 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: had to have inside knowledge of the vault and the 551 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 1: bank though is like, you know what, we are not 552 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: giving out the box holders names or any other information. Yeah. Uh. 553 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: The bank was also unhelpful in dealing with property that 554 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: had been strewn around on the floor, right, They just 555 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: piled it up on tables outside the vault and they 556 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: took possession of it all without police involvement. What do 557 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: you mean, So they just said, like this is now 558 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: a bank property because it's on our floor. They just 559 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: like scooped it up and put it in the pirate 560 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: like nobody looks that's evidence, don't check um. And so 561 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: one box holder, he said he went to go check 562 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: and see if his valuables were on the table, his 563 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: blackmail photos. No one checked his I D And he 564 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: found that jewelry that was like on this pile had 565 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: fallen into trash cans next to the desk. Yeah, it's 566 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: so sloppy. So finally a list of two and ten 567 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: box holders was given to the police, but the police 568 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 1: didn't think it was a full list, so they asked again. 569 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: Then they get the names of two hundred sixty of 570 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty eight box holders. So they're just 571 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: like that the queen and her cousin, well around one 572 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: hundred of the box holders. They declined to report their losses, 573 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: declined to specify the full extent of the loss. They 574 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: won't file anything with the cops. The police used a 575 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: network of informants to gather information on who robbed the bank, 576 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 1: and pretty soon they came up with Gavin and Tucker, 577 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: main guy and the one with the bank account. How 578 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: did they informants informants every time? So on the morning 579 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: of Friday, October nine one, the police watched Tucker hand 580 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: over a bag to two men. They swoop in, they 581 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: arrest the guys and there's thirty two thou pounds in 582 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: cash in the bag. Yeah. Tucker gets arrested later that day. 583 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: He confessed that the cash from earlier was from the bank, 584 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: but he said he wasn't part of the robbery. Got 585 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: the cream. Yeah, So Gavin and Steve is they're arrested 586 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,959 Speaker 1: October Gavin said, look, I only dug the tunnel. I'm 587 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: just the diggerman, and Stevens said that he had only 588 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: supplied the tools. I went out, I got them nuts 589 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: and then there you go. So Wolf that's the bankrupt 590 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 1: businessman who rented the sack. Yeah, he was also arrested. 591 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: Totally denied involvement. He's like, I'm just a humble leather salesman. 592 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 1: I am, but a bankrupt businessman. Exactly the Governor Mills. 593 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: Two mystery men never caught arrested. Yeah, apparently, though the 594 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: name of the explosives expert involved was given to the police, 595 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: but he wasn't arrested either. Yeah. It's later alleged, though, 596 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: that two senior officers in the case pocketed a million 597 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: pounds in diamonds from Baker Street in exchange for letting 598 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,240 Speaker 1: those guys off the hook. I think that they greased 599 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: the wheels with that. Only around two hundred and thirty 600 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: one thousand hounds of the stolen goods were ever recovered 601 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: millions of right, and the cops can consider that a 602 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: success because I got some back, right, Yeah, and the 603 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: insurance covers the rest, we would hope. So the case 604 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: goes to trial January three, Gavin Tucker Stevens. They all 605 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: plead guilty, and they're convicted and sentenced to twelve years 606 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: in prison each year. But they hold the bag. They don't. 607 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: They don't make snitch on everybody else. Nobody snitches on 608 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: the Governor. Stevens later appealed and he was able to 609 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: reduce his sentence to eight years. Um Wolf. He pleads 610 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,479 Speaker 1: not guilty, convicted eight years. In that book, One Last 611 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: Job they said that quote. In the years after Baker Street, 612 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: a number of myths have grown up around the job. 613 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 1: One of the earliest misconceptions surrounded an alleged police cover 614 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: up in the aftermath. It's been claimed that a D 615 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: notice was issued asking the press not to publish any 616 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: detail of the raids on grounds of NASH Security m 617 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: national security. For what reason. Well, the radio guy Richard rawlins, 618 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: he said the police confiscated his recording and he said 619 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: there was also this this gag order on it, but 620 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: he thought it was just an excuse to hide police incompetence. Okay. 621 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: Former Scotland Yard Detective Inspector David Woodland, he wrote in 622 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: his twenty fifteen book Crime and Corruption at the Yard. 623 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: He said that m I five had placed the government 624 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: gag order, the d notice on all press, effectively banning 625 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: any further reporting dude to national security. So this keeps 626 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: popping up this national security. What we're in these safety 627 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: deposit boxes. And also that they these guys go to prison. 628 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: So whatever they found, they couldn't have been too aware 629 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: of it because they otherwise they would have disappeared. To 630 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: write The Guardian, UH and the Mirror, they both said 631 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: that they were approached directly by senior government officials and 632 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: told to drop the story. The press or you know, 633 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: agencies were asked to keep things confidential. Um namely, they 634 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: didn't want anyone to know that Rowlands had made that recording, 635 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: but they told they wrote about it anyway, what did 636 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: they care? So whatever happens four days after the robbery, 637 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: reporting mysteriously stops and just cuts it off. Many people 638 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: later speculated that the reason for that d notice was 639 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: because compromising photos of Princess Margaret had been found. This 640 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: ringing a bell for you, that driver, right, So there 641 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: was also according to that book, One Last Job. The 642 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: rumor was that black power and civil rights activist Michael 643 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: X had compromising photos of the Queen's sister, Princess Margaret 644 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: on holiday with her lover, Roddy Llewellyn, and that he 645 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 1: stored them in the Baker Street vault. And he said 646 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: that m I five organized the break in to spare 647 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,959 Speaker 1: the royal family's blushes. So it's not even like they're 648 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: The whole break in was just to get the pictures 649 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: of Princess Margaret back. Now, what you're also thinking of. 650 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 1: Another alternate theory is that there were photos of Princess 651 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: Margaret with infamous London gangster turned actor John Bindon. Yes, 652 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: that's the story we heard. So, yeah, Zarin, you and 653 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: I were once in the lift in Los Angeles. Our 654 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: driver was an Englishman. He had wild stories about it. 655 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah he's talking. You're talking about the 656 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: two guns Benton because of his enormous and then he 657 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: and yeah, and Princess Margaret was like so winded, and 658 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: they were like in Jamaica and they're doing all the 659 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: nudest stuff and they were on Michael X, the Black 660 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: Power activists, and he has all the stuff where he 661 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: was basically not in war but trying to like blackmail 662 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: the UK government and then he gets involved in a 663 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 1: whole other thing and then comes to his own terrible end. 664 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: But yes, that story was insane. He had crazy insight, 665 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: talked about the whole break in and the tapes that 666 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: were in apparently the boxes. He talked and because he 667 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: knew them, Yeah, I know, he knew the dude he knew. Yeah, yeah, 668 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: he knew Benton. Yeah, he was the dry It was 669 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 1: a photographer, like a fashion fashion dude back in the day. 670 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: And he used to drink with Benton in the pubs 671 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: to just come in and be like just the most charming, 672 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,439 Speaker 1: carousing figure, and you can see why Princess Margaret would 673 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 1: go for him. And then there was the really dark 674 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: stuff he started getting into. We were like, ohh, I 675 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: don't okay, yeah, it got a little uncomfortable. Some of 676 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: this turned into one of those aber driver moment where 677 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,439 Speaker 1: you like, I can't believe I'm paying for this. So 678 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 1: that is the Baker Street robbery that takes I can't 679 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: believe forever to hear it. I was waiting and waiting, 680 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: what's your ridiculous takeaway? And it took me so long 681 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: to catch up. I'm over here standing in the shadow, 682 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: like what's going on? Why is it dark? Oh my god, 683 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: I've heard almost the entire story. And then the Princess 684 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: Margaret had all clicked. I was like, wait a minute 685 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: to break in to cover up, and he said it 686 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 1: was yes, there, I love this one. My takeaway, since 687 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: you asked, is the unsinkable spirit of the Governor. I'm 688 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: loving the guy he gets busted for his first crime 689 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: when he's eleven years old. I feel recall that was 690 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: his first bust. Criming was in his bones. He'd never 691 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: give it up, and like he wasn't the best at it, 692 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: but gosh darn it, he's going to give it as all. 693 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: But he's still tough. He learned to walk on a getaway, 694 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,439 Speaker 1: that's right. He did, and then he fell and hurt 695 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: his head. That is it for today. That's all I have. 696 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: Thank you. You can find us online at Ridiculous Crime 697 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: on both Twitter and Instagram. If you have a tip 698 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,839 Speaker 1: for us about a ridiculous crime, or if you want 699 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: to confess to a ridiculous crime, you can email us 700 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com. Tune in next time. 701 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton and Zarin Burnett, 702 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: produced and edited by demolitions expert Dave Kuston. Research is 703 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: by former LASAK floor manager Marissa Brown. 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