1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey are you welcome to Stuff to Blow 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: Your Mind? Listener mail. This is Robert Lamb and this 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: is Joe McCormick. And it's Monday, the day of each 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: week that we read back some messages you have sent 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: into the show account, which is contact at stuff to 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: Blow Your Mind dot com. If you ever want to 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: get in touch, if you want to suggest a topic 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: for a future show, to give feedback on an episode 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: we've already released, or even just to say hello, or 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: to share something interesting you learned. It's all fair game, 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: absolutely all right. I think I'm going to kick us 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: off here with this message about our episodes on asymmetry 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: from Nathan. I think we have two different messages from 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,319 Speaker 1: somebody named Nathan today, but I think they're different. Nathan's so, 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Nathan number one says, Dear Joe and Robert, your recent 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: podcast about asymmetry in nature minded me of an observation 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: I made about the distribution of stems and leaves that 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: branch out of a main stem in a plant. It's 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: well known that this branching follows an angle of the 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: golden ratio times three hundred and sixty degrees in many plants, 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: which results in, for example, Fibonacci numbers appearing in pine 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: cone and sunflower spirals. The golden branching angle is very 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: easy to spot in small shrubs, and in observing these, 25 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: I found that the direction the golden branching angle turns 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: as the stem grows can be either clockwise or counterclockwise, 27 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: but which direction the stem chooses cannot be predicted. I 28 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: first found different branching angle directions among different plants of 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: the same species, then noticed that both directions appear even 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: on different branches of the same plants. There is nothing 31 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: I've observed about the plants to tell me why the 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: golden branching angle would occur either clockwise or counterclockwise. But 33 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: there must be some molecular mechanism choosing for this, and 34 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated it by what it could be. I thought 35 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: you might find that interesting. Thanks for all the work 36 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: you put into the episodes. I know I'm always in 37 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: for a full meal of knowledge when listening to YouTube 38 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: regards Nathan. Thanks Nathan, Yeah, that's interesting to wonder about, 39 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: and it ties into what we discussed, and I believe 40 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: the last episode of the series on asymmetry, about how 41 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: the about how the handedness of a bilaterally symmetrical body 42 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: or the you know, the pattern of symmetry breaking would 43 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: say the internal organs and a human body might have 44 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: something to do with like the way the cilia, the 45 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: little filament like hairs reaching out from the cell membrane 46 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: on a developing embryo work. Uh. And it's kind of 47 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: hard to imagine it, like that tiny, tiny mechanism on 48 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: the outside of a cell making a difference, but apparently 49 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: it does. Very interesting, very interesting. All right, here's another listener. 50 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: All This one comes to us from Chris. Chris says, Hello, Robert, 51 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: Joe and Seth. On your recent episode of The Skybridge 52 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: Part two, you were discussing how urban planning and design 53 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: of high rise living can impact social connections and overall 54 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: health outcomes of the population. There was some discussion about 55 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: future design for our increasing urban density and the need 56 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: for green space or more connection with the natural world. 57 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: This brought to mind the futuristic city imagined in the 58 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: world of susin Lose three Body Problem. It's been a 59 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: while since I've read the series, but I believe it 60 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: is first described in the second book the Dark Forest, 61 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: additionally featured in the final book, Death's End. In the books, 62 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: eventually all of humanity is driven underground due to catastrophic events. 63 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: Then eventually they enter kind of an enlightened age and 64 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: build beautiful underground cities where all the high rises resemble 65 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: large trees with trunks as the central columns, and then 66 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: branches with leaves hanging off. Each of the leaves is 67 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: in a living space for individuals and families. The books 68 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: do a much better job describing the setting than I do, 69 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: but when I was reading them, in my mind, I 70 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: couldn't help but picture a densely packed urban space that 71 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: didn't feel closed in. I think that a space like 72 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: that would be amazing for future cities with plenty of 73 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: room on the quote unquote forest floor so to speak, 74 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: for commerce, parks, sporting facilities, bike lanes, etcetera. Thanks again 75 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: for the interesting pair of episodes. Chris from Chicago. PS 76 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: have tickets for the Boat Architecture Tour in a few weeks. 77 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: I'll be on the lookout for the Wrigley Building. All right, 78 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: Well that sounds great. Yeah you won't. You won't be 79 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: able to miss it, that's for sure. Oh. Thanks Chris. Yeah, yeah, 80 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: this is interesting and it comes back to something that 81 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: we did talk about in in the Skybridge episodes, which 82 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: is how to manage the the somewhat zero sum problem 83 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 1: of if you're trying to pack more and more vertical 84 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: density into a city, density of both infrastructure and living space, 85 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: uh into a city, how to deal with the somewhat 86 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 1: zero sum access to the sky or access to sunlight. 87 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: Because obviously it would be good to have more parks 88 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: and green space up at the top levels, especially if 89 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: people are going to be spending more time up there 90 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: without coming down. But of course, as you need more 91 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: surface area up above, you are necessarily limiting the son's 92 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: ability to reach what lies below. Yeah. Absolutely, Now when 93 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: it comes to the three body problem. Um, I did 94 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: not read the second two books, but I did the 95 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: first book on on audio and it was it was 96 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: very entertaining, especially since the narrator did kind of a 97 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: voice like this for all the alien characters. All right, 98 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: what do we have next? Do you want to take 99 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: this one from Stacy? Sure? Stacy says, this is also 100 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: about sky bridges. Hello Robert and Joe. First off, thank 101 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: you for your help in dealing with isolation. I work 102 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: in customer service and have been working on telephone or 103 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: email based customer service rather than in person since the 104 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: start of the pandemic. It's gotten to the point where 105 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: we are all working in separate areas of the office. 106 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: Your podcasts are informative and engaging in a great way 107 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: to deal with loneliness. I just listened to your podcast 108 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: on Skybridges and I couldn't help but think back to 109 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: my college days. In my first English short literature class, 110 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: one of the stories we read was The enforced Ers 111 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: The Machine Stops. I'm surprised this story hasn't come up 112 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: in some of your past podcasts, given how many times 113 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: I think back to it while listening to your discussions. 114 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: Granted I haven't listened to every podcast yet. I'm working 115 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: on it, so if I am mistaken, I apologize. In 116 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: the story, the character has become so reliant on technology 117 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: in the form of a machine that sees all of 118 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: their needs, that they turn their backs on the natural world. 119 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: Then the day comes that the Machine Stops. Being a 120 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: work of short fiction, it isn't a long read, but 121 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: I think you would enjoy it. It's certainly left h 122 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: such a mark on me. I can remember it despite 123 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: reading it over ten years ago. Hope you both have 124 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: a lovely day, Stacy. I don't think I have read 125 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: this story, Stacy. What I've read by I. M. Forster 126 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: is uh a very different kind. I read his book 127 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: A Room with a View, which the main thing I 128 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: remember about that it's sort of a modernist romantic novel. 129 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: One of the one of the main things I remember 130 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: about it as a scene where some characters are kind 131 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: of frolicking in a garden in Italy and one tumbles 132 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: into a bed of flowers or something, and then someone 133 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: shouts down at them from the wall above courage and love. 134 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: That's always in my head. Yeah, I I have not 135 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 1: read this story either. I was just having to refresh 136 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: myself with the the notable works of I. M. Forrester, 137 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: and I think the only thing I've read is A 138 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: Passage to India, and that was a long time ago, 139 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: and I think I read it really quickly for a 140 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: class I was taking, But I remember liking I remember 141 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: liking it at the time. Yeah, we'll off to look 142 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: this story up. Thanks. As always, nobody hurt themselves trying 143 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: to listen to all the podcast episodes. There's no there's 144 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: no special award for for listening to all of them. Um, 145 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: there is a special award for watching all of the 146 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: movies we cover on Weird House Cinema. But it's but 147 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: that too, is not a physical reward that you hold 148 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: in your hand. It's a reward that you hold in 149 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: your heart. It's a reward based on courage and love. 150 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: But we we we appreciate the kind words. Thank you, Stacy. 151 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: All right, here's one that comes to us from Hannah. 152 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: They write in regarding Weird House Cinema. Um, Hannah begins 153 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: by saying some nice things about the show, but then 154 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: they go on to discuss a couple of different things, 155 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: at least one of which is not directly related to 156 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: Weird how Cinema but is interesting thenetheless less. So I'm 157 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: gonna read the whole email first and then we can 158 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: sort of break it down. Hannah writes, I've been binging 159 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: some really early episodes, so I can't remember if this 160 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: is from the Cauldron series or something earlier. But you 161 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: mentioned a Chinese myth about a hero who bursts in 162 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: and eats the demons of despair and loneliness that are 163 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: tormenting the Emperor. Maybe I'm misremembering this in a way 164 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 1: that suits my interpretation, but let's roll with it for 165 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: a second. I just started my clinical internship as a 166 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: mental health counselor, and I've thought a lot about that character, 167 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: because I think that's part of what we do, is therapists. 168 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: We help people by eating their demons of loneliness and 169 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: despair when we listen to what they share in session 170 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: and digested with them. Anyway, thanks again. I have a 171 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: weird how cinema suggestion that I think you guys would 172 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: get a huge kick out of if you haven't seen 173 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: it already, The Eyes of Laura Mars. It was based 174 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: on a script treatment by John Carpenter and became the 175 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: first of his stories to be made by a major studio, 176 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: though he did not direct it. Despite the major studio production, 177 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: it is deeply and ineffably weird. It stars Mia Pharaoh 178 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: and a shockingly young Tommy Lee Jones. Involves naked photo shoots, 179 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: a serial killer with mommy issues, cars on fire, big 180 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: city glamor, doomed love, men in turtlenecks, psychic visions, all caps. 181 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: This movie is such a mess. I almost forgot that 182 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: part and enough Red herrings for a Midwest church fish fry. Basically, 183 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: imagine deep Red. They're they're referring to the Dario Argento 184 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: film here. Now, think about John Carpenter rewriting riffing. It 185 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: sounds fun right now. Imagine that got taken away from 186 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: John Carpenter and someone tried to make it a mainstream movie, 187 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: but they forgot about the script until the weekend before 188 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: they started shooting, and they had an intern do all 189 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: the rewrites the night before. Oh. Also, Barbara Streisan was 190 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: originally considered for the lead, but she thought the nudity 191 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: and violence wasn't good for her brand, so instead of 192 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: appearing in it, she just wrote the torch song for 193 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: the movie. Whether you review it on Weird House or not, 194 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: please just accept this movie into your life and let 195 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: it enrich you. Thanks Hannah. Wow that I've never seen it. 196 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: That sounds great. So I guess there's two main parts 197 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: to address from this message. Well, let's keep rolling with 198 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: the eyes of Laura Mars first, since since that's fresher here. 199 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, I've been eyeing this one for a bit 200 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: and it does have a terrific cast. So you've got 201 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: fade done away. Tommy Lee Jones, Brad Dorriff, Renee Auberzonwa 202 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: and Rawle Julia and by Irvin Kirshner as well. So 203 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: it's there's a lot of great names involved in this film. 204 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: I have not seen it yet, but especially after this description, 205 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: I'm I'm very interested. But yeah, can you believe we 206 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: haven't watched a Rale Julia film yet? You had me 207 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: at Rawl Julia. He's great and everything. Yeah, elevated everything 208 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: he touched. We we should just do a whole like 209 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: month of the show where we watch rale Julia's for 210 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: weirdest movies. Yeah, I mean he he made so many 211 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: things watchable. And you know, sometimes you have a you 212 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: have actors who can say that they did that once 213 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: or twice. Right, I elevated an otherwise low level film 214 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: and it was memorable. But for Rale Julia, it was 215 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: a Tuesday street Fighter reference there for everybody. Oh yes, 216 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: I think it was a Tuesday I could be misquoting that, 217 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: but it's a great thing in a great movie. As 218 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: for the demon Eater, this would be zen Qua, the 219 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,239 Speaker 1: Demon Queller. We talked about this character in the episode 220 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,599 Speaker 1: of Demon Eaters and Possessed Tools, and this was I 221 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: had to look back. This is January nineteen, which I 222 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: guess in the grand scheme of things, wasn't that long ago, 223 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: but it sure feels like a long time ago because 224 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: this was back when we were recording in person U. 225 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: But the basic story here, I'm not going to tell 226 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: the whole thing because I think we gave a pretty 227 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: good treatment of it in the episode. But basically, eighth century, Uh, 228 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: the emperor has a fever one night and he's assailed 229 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: by demons dressed in red hill a demon dressed in red, 230 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: and the demon identifies itself as being emptiness and desolation, 231 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: and the Emperor's powerless to stop it. But then incomes 232 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: this ghost in rag and he just swallows the demon hole. Uh. 233 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: And this is the This is the ghost of our 234 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: our demon eller, a demon eat or our demon queller 235 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, he's he is the immortal Exorcist and 236 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: their various stories involving him, and there's at least one 237 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: really cool piece of art. I think he's called the 238 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: um uh the gong Kai scroll from the Late Song dynasty. 239 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: And he's put the demons that he's quelled to work, 240 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: and so they're carrying him around on a litter. They're 241 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: carrying his sister around on a litter, and they're also 242 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: carrying I think, um like a dog and possibly some packages. 243 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: So it's it's really fun stuff. So if Hannah or 244 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: any other listener wants to look this up, how is 245 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: uh the name of this character usually spelled an English 246 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 1: script um. Usually I'm seeing it as as z h 247 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: O n G k U. I. There you go. That 248 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: that's a good memory. Good memory, Hannah, and I guess 249 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: the rest of that episode pertained to mostly Japanese traditions 250 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: of tools that had been possessed so um I. I 251 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: can't remember what was the bulk of that episode, but 252 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: a lot of magic in that one. If anyone wants 253 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: to to to look it up, well, I think a 254 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: big part of it was the Japanese folk concept of 255 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: the suku mogami um or the tool kami that were 256 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: like the spirits that would um, I don't know, spirits 257 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: that would inhabit disused tools, or maybe the tools would 258 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: gain sentience or gain a soul. And it had something 259 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: to do with tools that had been around for a 260 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: long time, like a tool that's like a hundred years 261 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: old or something without being thrown away sort of comes alive. Yeah, 262 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: and then they go and there's like a parade of 263 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: these things. Yeah. Technically a form of yokai, I think, 264 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: or at least by some classifications. Anyway, I've seen it 265 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: is discussed in yokai books before. I also seem to 266 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: recall that there's a major story of Out the Possessed 267 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: Tools that is used as as religious apologetics for a 268 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: certain strain of Buddhism. Okay, that sounds familiar. Okay, anyway, Robert, 269 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: you ready for the final message. Let's do it. The 270 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: final message. The final message, This one actually comes from 271 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: a different Nathan. Nathan had a lot to say about 272 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of different topics. This was a great email, 273 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: but it's very long and there's no way we can 274 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: read the whole thing, so I'm going to feature a 275 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: few selections from it. Nathan says, greetings, gentlemen. First, during 276 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: listener mail this week on July two, the d C 277 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: character the question was mentioned. You probably know him better 278 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: than you think, as he served as the model for 279 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: Rorschach in The Watchman. The lore goes that Alan Moore 280 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: pitched his gritty tale depicting the demise of lesser known characters. 281 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: UH recently acquired by d C from the defunct Charlton Comics, 282 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: and he was ultimately allowed to create analogs. Most, if 283 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: not all, were Steve did co creations, the author best 284 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: known for co creating Spider Man and Doctor Strange. For Marvel, 285 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Blue Beetle became the night Owl. I think Captain Adam 286 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: became Dr Manhattan, and other details elude me, but it's 287 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: interesting to trace the roots of what became one of 288 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: the best selling comics of all time. I'll echo the 289 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: other listeners sentiment and say, Jeffrey Combs makes that character remarkable. 290 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Combs did the voice of this character of the 291 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: question on UM I think the animated Justice League. Nathan says, 292 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: you can find Justice League Unlimited on HBO Max, and 293 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: it would be worth your time to find the episodes 294 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: that focus on him, such as season two episode six, 295 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: Double Date, which is top notch. But he makes small 296 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: appearances in a season long subplot involved in an actual 297 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: conspiracy named for the god slaying mortal Cadmus, and it 298 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: totally pays off. A couple of years ago, I was 299 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: rewatching the quoted episode and this is referring to the 300 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: episode quoted in the earlier listener mail. The message was 301 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: about the question having a sort of Dale Gribble style 302 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: paranoid theory about the sinister implications of aglets, which are 303 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: the little plastic tips on shoelaces. Nathan goes on, I'd 304 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: heard the term before, I guess aglets and went to 305 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: look it up, but wasn't sure how to spell what 306 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: the question was calling the plastic tips on shoelaces. In 307 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: searching for aglet, I ran across an Inuit mythical creature 308 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: that might make for a good Monster Fact episode called 309 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: an adlet. Check out here if you're not familiar, and 310 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: Nathan provides a link. Also were referring to aglets. Nathan 311 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: asks if we remember the Seinfeld hosted SNL from long 312 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: ago with the Jeopardy parody where the parting gift was 313 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: thousands of quote? What do you call those things? Nobody knows. 314 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: I do not remember this, Rob, did you see this one? 315 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: I had no memory of this one. There there are 316 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: old episodes of SNL that that stand out of my mind, 317 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: like Patrick Stewart hosting with with special musical guest Salt 318 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: and Pepper, But I don't remember Seinfeld all Right after this, 319 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: Nathan makes some good suggestions for core episode topics on 320 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: things like space exploration and the biological evolution of sentience, 321 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: but then to to come towards the end of Nathan's message, 322 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: Nathan says, next Weird House. It's been a while, but 323 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: I still laugh about Blood Beat often because I happened 324 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: to reside near a fire station at the end of 325 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: the scene in Blood Beat where the first body was discovered. 326 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: I notice the sheriff turned on the sirens as he 327 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: was leaving the crime scene. What's the rush? Sometimes, your sheriff, 328 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: you just gotta you just gotta get to lunch. I 329 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm glad to hear from someone else who 330 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: saw Blood Beat. It's it's it's worth worth checking out. 331 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: There aren't aren't too many Christmas I geeks slasher films 332 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: with animate Samurai armor in them. But this is this 333 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: is the one, Okay. Nathan goes on with more recommendations 334 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: such as brain Scan, underrated Edward Furlong flick that had 335 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: a big impact on me and my buddies when it 336 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: was okay, all smart speakers should be named Igor. Haven't 337 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: seen it, so I don't know what that refers to 338 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: another one. Nathan says, have you guys mentioned Oblivion? I 339 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: feel like I remember someone saying not the tom Cruise one, 340 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: but it didn't turn up when I searched the feed 341 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: it's from. And the credits are unbelievable. Only Charles Band 342 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: could bring together Catwoman, Lurch, the Gin, and Mr Sulu, 343 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: among others on what looks like I set borrowed from 344 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: Sliders Rob, I looked up the Oblivion cast. Okay, First 345 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: of all, the plot summary on IMDb goes like this. 346 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: On another planet which resembles the Old West, a die 347 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: hard pacifist is forced to re examine his ways after 348 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: an evil alien ba and It and his gang murder 349 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: his estranged sheriff father, take over his hometown and threaten 350 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: his friends. Planet West World, a man comes to embrace 351 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: the way of violence. Oh and looking at the cast list, 352 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: it is Divine. So uh. Nathan mentioned the Gin. I 353 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: think that would be a reference to Andrew Divoff. Am 354 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: I right about that? Uh? And then he also says Catwoman, 355 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: I believe that's the fact that Julie Newmar is in 356 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: this movie. Uh. He says Lurch, I think that's Carol. 357 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how to say his name, Carol Stroychan 358 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: something like that. He's in there. Mr Sulu. Of course, 359 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: George de kay is in the movie, but it also 360 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: has Meg Foster and Isaac Hayes. What and what an assemblage? Yeah? Yeah, 361 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: I love Meg Foster and I've I've looked around for 362 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: reasons to to watch a Meg Foster movie. There are 363 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: a few sort of I've been that I've been eyeing, 364 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, She's she always was a was a fun 365 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: screen presence for sure, and this movie at least the 366 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: first Oblivion him. I have seen this, but I watched 367 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: it with some friends and it was the Riff Track's 368 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: version of it, and so I remember it being, you know, funny, 369 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: but also that's a very You've got like two layers 370 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: of distraction there between you and the film, So I 371 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: can't say that I've really gotten in there and appreciated 372 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: it as a motion picture. Okay, a couple more thoughts 373 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: from Nathan. First of all, he has a comment for Seth. 374 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: He says, imagine Brainy Smurf's voice, saying, it depends on 375 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: if you're talking about Mirage or Archie. I have no 376 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: idea what that means, but Nathan says, okay, so here 377 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: Brainy Smurf's voice saying that, and you'll know how fifty 378 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: percent of my conversation started from fourth to seventh grade. 379 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: I was given teenage mutant Ninja Turtles number one, fifth 380 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: printing on my tenth birthday, and things have never been 381 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: the same by the way. I began as a Mikey 382 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: but rapidly turned Raphael alongside adolescence. This is referring back 383 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: to our discussion of which turtle did you identify? With? 384 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: Which one did you inevitably select act in the arcade? 385 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: Beat him up? And you talked to you. We talked 386 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: with you a little bit about this as well. I 387 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: think we were what all Leonardo's or did you have 388 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: a different pick? I thought we were all Donna tell O's. Oh, 389 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we're all Donna Tellos with the staff. Yes, yes, 390 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: somebody could read into that that we're just like boring nerds. 391 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: But I think the real issue is that the bow 392 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: staff is longer than the other weapons. We like our 393 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: personal space and uh and then the staff helps to 394 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: uh make sure that that personal state space is present 395 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: both on either side of our body and also above 396 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: our bodies. Finally, just to mention a few comments Nathan 397 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: makes about dog names. First off, he says that he 398 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: meant to right in after the Ark of the Covenant 399 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: episodes because he has a dog named Ichabod. And apparently 400 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: there is an origin story in the Hebrew Bible for 401 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: the name Ichabod. It's in the Book of Second Samuel, 402 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: where a woman gives birth to a child after she 403 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: learns that her husband and her father in law have 404 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: both been killed and the Ark of the Covenant has 405 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: been stolen by the Philistines, and she names the baby Ichabod, 406 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: which literally means something like no glory or where's the glory, 407 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: And Nathan says, in this context it could be taken 408 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: to mean God has abandoned us, which Nathan finds funny 409 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: as a dog's name, And I agree that is an 410 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: amusing thing to consider as the name of a dog. 411 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: But then Nathan also says, by the way, Joe, my 412 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: step dog is named Brody, a fact I previously found embarrassing, 413 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: but since rewatching Jaws last summer, I've been introducing him 414 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: as Chief Brodie. Not too good? Is it? I kink 415 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: that sounds good? That sounds good? Uh? I think he's 416 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: making it not too good as a chief reference. Oh yes, yes, 417 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: but as but taking it literally, I would say that 418 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: that's a good dog name. Oh yeah, you know, I 419 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 1: think with dogs and cats you you should name your 420 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: animals things like Edward. Um. But the Brodie feels appropriate. 421 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I don't know what the problem originally with 422 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: Brodie would have been. But Chief Brodie is a great 423 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: name for a dog, especially since I'm assuming you're associating 424 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: it with the Chief Brody in the movie played by 425 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: Roy Scheider, who is who is a lovable protagonist, versus 426 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: the Chief Brody in the book, who is as nasty 427 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: and detestable as every other character in the book. I 428 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: do not recommend reading Jaws. Yeah, Roy Scheider, though, that 429 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: would not be a good name for a dog. But 430 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: Brody good name for a dog. Quin good name for 431 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: a dog. Hooper, good name for a dog. Vaughan Meadows, Hendrix. Really, 432 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: these are all just dog names. Vaughn, my dog, Vaughn. 433 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: I named him after the mayor of Amity, wants to 434 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: keep the beaches open. Oh but no, that is actually 435 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: a good description of of my dog's personality. I'm sure 436 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: most dogs personality, you know, whatever dangers there are, they 437 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: want to keep the beaches open. That's true. That that's 438 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: the dog personality right anyway, Nathan says, thank you sincerely 439 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: for the years of service loyal listener. Nathan. Okay, we're 440 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: gonna wrap it up there. 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