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Speaker 1: get into the episode. Hi Blue Matt, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 3: Last Thursday I decided to do what a lot of

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Speaker 3: young men do, which is masturbate. And I happen to

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Speaker 3: have a seventy five year old grandmother that lives with us,

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Speaker 3: who is highly religious and doesn't believe in any sexual activity,

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Speaker 3: even masturbation before marriage. And she happened to walk in

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Speaker 3: on me while I was doing that, and now she

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Speaker 1: Okay, why do you think she is not talking to you?

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Speaker 3: She might be, Honestly, I'm thinking she might be embarrassed.

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Speaker 3: She's also probably really upset because I'm not following what

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Speaker 3: she uh, she kind of looks at me while whispering

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Speaker 1: Mhm, Were you thinking about her friends while you were masturbating?

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Speaker 3: No, Actually, I might as well just come out and

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Speaker 3: say it. I'm actually gay. And do you know the

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Speaker 3: lightsabers that they sell at Disney World.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 3: She walked in on me.

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Speaker 1: Using it, okay, because I that's an interesting factory. Because

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask after she walked in on you,

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Speaker 1: did you finish?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I was right there, man, I'm yeah, wait.

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Speaker 1: You were right like like you were about to come.

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Speaker 3: And she walked in and I was like, holy shit.

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Speaker 3: She closed the door and I kind of just said

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it sounds like the force is within you.

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Speaker 4: Literally, it was, and I can I can completely understand

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Speaker 3: I just I don't even really need to talk to

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Speaker 3: her about that particular situation. But it doesn't seem like

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Speaker 1: Does a great Does your grandma know that you're gay?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 6: M okay, do you think that the whole that's a

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Speaker 6: whole other thing, because she's very very Christian, she's by

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Speaker 1: Do you think she now thinks you're gay because you

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Speaker 1: were shoving a lightsaber up your ass? Not that that

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Speaker 6: But definitely. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you look, let me ask you a question. I

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Speaker 1: want you to answer this honestly. Do you love your grandmother.

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Speaker 4: Very much?

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Speaker 7: I really do. I mean, I might not agree with

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Speaker 7: everything that she believes in, but she's prod of just

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Speaker 1: Okay, what do you what do you love about her?

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Speaker 7: She was She's just been kind of very naturing growing up.

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Speaker 7: She's always been very loving towards I guess the persona

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Speaker 7: that she thinks that I am in my persona. I mean,

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Speaker 7: She doesn't know that I'm gay.

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Speaker 1: But with all that with Yeah, did you do something

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Speaker 1: to your phone? You sound muffled?

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Speaker 6: Does this sound better?

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Speaker 1: It does? Okay, for a second, I thought you put

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Speaker 3: No, No, I did turn it on speaker though that

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Speaker 1: Yes, take it take it off. Take take it off,

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you love your mother. You know you love

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Speaker 3: When it comes to my sexuality, Yes, but literally everything

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Speaker 3: I am, besides the people that I'm into.

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Speaker 3: It was Thursday, so tomorrow it'll be a week Okay.

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Speaker 1: Have you attempted to initiate any conversation with your grandmother

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Speaker 3: I mean, whenever I see her, I do say hey,

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Speaker 1: idea because it's a very personal decision and thing, of course,

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Speaker 1: But like you know, look, I asked you if you

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think if I were you, let's sit

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Speaker 1: I love you, here's why. Tell her all the things

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Because if you just walk around resenting

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Speaker 1: she could be appealed to and if not, well, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. That's interesting useful information to have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really think that maybe if I go up

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Speaker 1: I think so too. I think so too.

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Speaker 6: Okay, No, I'll definitely try that.

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Speaker 3: I lived with my parents too, and they know that

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Speaker 1: Honestly, when you went to the gift shop at Star

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Speaker 3: Kind of a mixture of the both. It was more

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Speaker 3: I went to the gift shop, thought it was cool,

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Speaker 3: thought it was cool that you could build your own lightsaber,

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Speaker 3: and then I found out that I vibrated and my

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Speaker 3: imagination kind of took me to places that led me

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Speaker 1: Mmm, you know what, I listen, listen. I hope this

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Speaker 1: leads to a beautiful, healing conversation with your grandmother. And

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Speaker 1: who knows, maybe that lightsaber truly, uh may give you

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Speaker 1: more than than you had hoped.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much, while I really appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Of course I appreciate you too. Man, anything else you

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Speaker 1: want to say to the people with the computer before

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Speaker 3: Not to the people of the computer, but I just

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Speaker 3: noticed you last this Monday, that you were a little off.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to make sure that you were doing good.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm doing great sometimes, okay, And what an honor

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Speaker 1: that is to sometimes be doing great.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful, Thank you for calling.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hi.

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Speaker 2: O, Hi.

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Speaker 1: Is this uh? You're on? You're on. It's me Hill.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty psychedelic, pretty psychedelic. Look at us happening so

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Speaker 1: miraculously to be on the planet Earth, on this at

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Speaker 1: the same time, billions and billions of billions, billions and

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Speaker 1: it's pretty psychedelic. It's pretty Why you are share in

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Speaker 1: your excitement for that? What's up, Stelle? How you doing?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing good? How are you get?

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Speaker 1: I actually feel good? I didn't feel I felt pretty

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Speaker 1: This is nice?

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Speaker 2: Okay are you.

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Speaker 5: I'm just hanging out?

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Speaker 1: Well listen, Stella. Is there anything in particular that you

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Speaker 5: Uh? Yeah, Actually I kind of have a not I

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Speaker 5: guess it's kind of a story, but it's kind of

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Speaker 1: I guess fascinating. Well, look if you're if you're cool

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So I I guess I'll started off how this happened.

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Speaker 5: So I had a boyfriend that I was pretty serious

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Speaker 5: So automatically I assumed, you know, always cheating on me,

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Speaker 5: a cross dresser. And he had also been wearing my

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Speaker 5: of a shocking, shocking thing to find out that, oh,

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Speaker 5: I wasn't being cheated on, but there's something weird that

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Speaker 1: Fascinating. How did you react initially to that information?

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Speaker 5: I was kind of shocked. I didn't really know like

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm nervous that I'm not going to be into it,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because we have a pretty good sex life.

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Speaker 3: Well, my best.

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Speaker 5: Friend is my sister, and like I kind of told

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Speaker 1: Well, I think I don't know. This is a really

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Speaker 1: To be with people who can satisfy you, So it's

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Speaker 5: No, it's it's definitely helpful.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: No, honestly, I just wanted to tell somebody. It feels

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Speaker 1: Well, Stella, good, where are you guys gonna go on

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Speaker 1: That's cool? Is it not nice to have somebody that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I'm reaching for straws now Well, Stella, thank

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Speaker 5: No, just thank you for being you and yeah, I

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: A big secret that I have is that occasionally, for

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Speaker 2: How's it going good?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 9: I'm doing perfectly.

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Speaker 1: Dominic twenty one years old from Australia. No, Austria, they

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Speaker 1: screwed it up there. Now I want you. I want

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Speaker 1: Austria is the youngest, says you're you're the youngest therapist

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Speaker 1: in the European Union and you called it to school

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Speaker 1: me on psychology.

442
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: Behavioral patterns.

443
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: All right, hit me.

444
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 9: Now hold on one second, I have to empty up

445
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 9: my cigarette.

446
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: Now.

447
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 9: You know what, it's very interesting about you as a

448
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 9: this get the therapist.

449
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: Geck, yeah, hit me.

450
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 9: The interesting part is that there are so many these most.

451
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: Of the colors that you get, at least from.

452
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 9: What I have seen, in the last ya Maria three hours, you.

453
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: Should honestly have a different job. I do not know

454
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: why you do this, but it is the behavior. The

455
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: behavior of these people is very similar.

456
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, you can recognize that most of them.

457
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: I mean the last before the Fish Guy, which was

458
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: probably a Snaker's commercial, there was there were two people

459
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: who had problems with either horniness onto take characters or

460
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: bettering themselves by some video game of an anime figure

461
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: which kills themselves. Yea, So may you may be questioning yourself,

462
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: what am I doing? What am I doing with my life? Well,

463
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: my kind I will tell her. What these people are

464
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: doing is something that is very normal in behavioral patterns.

465
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: This is like which is a good example basically the

466
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: average Well, I'm assuming that most of these men are American.

467
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: Now they're.

468
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: The generates to an extent, They're not They're unhappy, and

469
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: they're they're miserable people, and any form of physical, emotional,

470
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: or behavioral affection is such a grace to them.

471
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: Man, sure you get you get my point. Uh So,

472
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: I guess what what are you trying to say exactly

473
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: about Danny of this?

474
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say is that the colors that

475
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: you get are and I would never and I.

476
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 9: Really do not understand the concept.

477
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: Of this is the colors that you get are very

478
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: depressing to listen to. I do not know if they're joking.

479
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 9: I'm not assuming they're joking because.

480
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: That makes you worse.

481
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: Sure, but Jesus, I.

482
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: Mean, I'm not even what. Oh god, it is. It's

483
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: so sad. It's very sad. Okay, it's like what, Yeah.

484
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: Well you're okay, So you are the the youngest therapists

485
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: in the European Union. So you're you're your licensed therapist.

486
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, that's me.

487
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: So you I I assume that you have you have clients, yeah,

488
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: and you you have clients who come to you, and

489
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: I assume tell you things that are depressing. Yes, yes,

490
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: And how do you what do you make of the

491
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: people that talk to you about depressing things?

492
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: Well? See, this is the difference is that and most

493
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: most people that are depressed is obviously men, which we

494
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: can clearly see in this I hate the.

495
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Speaker 9: Word society, but society.

496
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Speaker 2: In our the modern era.

497
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Speaker 9: Of civilization, men are more and more depressed due to

498
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 9: the way that the behavior between and.

499
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: Women have changed. Between social media.

500
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Speaker 9: And this this ideology of let's stay in the little

501
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 9: cave and watch a gecko talk to depressing Americans?

502
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: And what I what I tell these people that are depressed,

503
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: that are suicidal, that cut themselves, which I have to

504
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 2: see the embarrassment in front of me, you know, I

505
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: have to see their cuts. Yeah, embarrassing, and it's it's

506
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: if they are they I mean, it's it's like the

507
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: only thing that I can tell them is what are

508
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: you doing? I mean, look at yourself for a second

509
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: and question yourself. Is this the way you want to live?

510
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: Do you want to be known as the ashlock that

511
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: keeps on cutting himself, stays in his house twenty four seven,

512
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: play some terrible games that just came out sixty year

513
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: old and it's bad, it's sad.

514
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you a question. So, how

515
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: did you become the youngest therapist in the European Union?

516
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: What is the process of that?

517
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: Well, the process of it, and it's a little bit

518
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: of bribery, but it's mostly to.

519
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 9: Do with that I graduated very early from school.

520
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: Okay, but you know, yeah and yeah, so so if

521
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: you're not finished, I want to let you finish. So

522
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: what so Okay, So you see people, you listen to

523
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: people who you know have problems. Maybe they're suicidal, or

524
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: they cut themselves or you know, have have behavior problems.

525
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: What is it that you have? What? What have you

526
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: learned in your education and in your what things that

527
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: you had to learn to become a licensed therapist? What

528
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: have you learned about why people do these things? And

529
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: what you in your job might be able to do

530
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: to help them?

531
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Speaker 2: That that is the well is that are at least

532
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: that they're people, at least in Austria or in the

533
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: in the old Europe where the old men smoke cigarettes

534
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: in front of the bars and have a cafe and

535
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 2: things like that. In this there's a very old type

536
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: of psychology. You know in the movies when you sit

537
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: down and you say, oh, my therapist, I'm sad. You know,

538
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 2: they sit in one of those chairs that you have. Right,

539
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: This is the kind of therapy that we are taught

540
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: and it is not an effective type of therapy. And

541
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 2: therefore many therapists in modern era have to improvise, and

542
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: they have to They have to be human, they have

543
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: to be social. And the only thing that I can

544
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: that I can tell them, or that I can explain

545
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: to a person that is depressed for example, is I

546
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: mean for of course, for every situation it's different. You

547
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: have to get to know a person before you know

548
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: what to say, because they because the way that my

549
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 2: at least most therapistes here in Europe were no idea

550
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 2: about Americas. But they basically explain to.

551
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 9: You who they are as a person.

552
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: And if they do not effectively tell you the way

553
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: that they think, of course, as a therapist, I have

554
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: to of course calculate with my brain of course how

555
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: they think, what they do. If I see how they

556
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: will they behave things like that. But still what is

557
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: very important is that.

558
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 9: People think that therapy is a quick stop.

559
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: And goal, like a set eleven in that neighborhood. They

560
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: can just come in, grab a bag of chips and

561
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: they're not hungry anymore. Sure, and that's what people expect.

562
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 2: And when I see these people come in like I see,

563
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: I saw this thirteen year old kids bipolar disorder, takes

564
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: antidepressed and things like that, and they talk about different

565
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: things which I can you know, say, but they clearly

566
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: have problems and the biggest, really the biggest problem that

567
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: there is is this this idea of self identity.

568
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 9: Who am I? What do I want in life?

569
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: Because all they see is they see these other people.

570
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: They glory, they glorify other people, and they want to

571
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 2: become this person. But it is it's like when you

572
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 2: know those like eight year old kids that watched mister Beast,

573
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 2: You're never going to be mister Best. I mean my

574
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: father told me I was never going to be a

575
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 2: Slatin ni Ruhimovic. You know, I'm not going to be

576
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 2: a soccer player. Yeah, it's it's not it's not something

577
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: that's capable, and they can't understand this. It's one of

578
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 2: the points.

579
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: So you feel like people are having are having this

580
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: dissonance swear. They want to be something that you feel

581
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: is is not within the scope of their reality, and

582
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: that's bringing them unhappiness.

583
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: Right because they they put themselves on such a high shelf.

584
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: They put themselves on such a high shelf, and they

585
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 2: expect themselves. Oh, if I'm not like this, then I'm

586
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: not normal. And that's why I have to get my

587
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: hair colors to get attention. That's why I have to

588
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: cut myself because I hate myself as a person. Now

589
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: this is different with everybody, but this is like a

590
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 2: very large group, at least of I'd say this new era,

591
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: the new generation of people, and my age approximately a

592
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 2: bit younger.

593
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: Well, as I'm curious about you as a person, dominic,

594
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: what are what do you do? You do you have problems?

595
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I mean everyone has problems.

596
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: What I mean I'm an I mean I'm an extreme

597
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 2: alcoholic as most German or Austrian men are.

598
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: Okay, but.

599
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: Smoker of course.

600
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 9: And when I was a teenager, you know, deal a

601
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 9: little bit.

602
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: Of drugs, but that's normal in the district.

603
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 10: But otherwise, I mean, I myself am doing fine. I

604
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 10: have you know, I have a girlfriend. Yeah, and it's

605
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 10: it's all fine. I don't do anything really except for

606
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 10: help people, because the only thing that I care about

607
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 10: is others, not myself.

608
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: Other people come first. That might be a negative, but

609
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: to me it is a positive.

610
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hm. So when I mean so, so, when

611
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: you do experience any kind of problems or issues or

612
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: how you know how a smaller big they are? What

613
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 1: how do you deal with difficult things in your life?

614
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Speaker 2: Well, due to the way that I have been raised,

615
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: I was raised by an old Jewish man, my father.

616
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 2: That's why I speak a bit of Yiddish. That's why

617
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: what the Chad says.

618
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 9: Well, I am and I don't even know.

619
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: What that means. I only know a couple of words,

620
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: swear words or you know, king da Lia, things like that.

621
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: He taught me the old way of thinking, the old

622
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 2: way of how men should behave They should keep things

623
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: inside on themselves, and they should be aggressive when they want.

624
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 9: To, or they can just pent it up, you know,

625
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 9: the old.

626
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: Way, the typical stereotypical house speeder from the nineteen seventies way,

627
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: I guess right.

628
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 9: And as I like.

629
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Speaker 2: The ideology, I like the ideology not because it because

630
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: it affects other people.

631
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 7: I like the.

632
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: Ideology because it teaches a man. And this is this

633
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 2: is something that also has died with the age.

634
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 9: Is this idea that.

635
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: A man has to keep to himself? Yeah, okay, he

636
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: is to.

637
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 9: Is to clear his own bullshit, as they say.

638
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 3: So you.

639
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: So you so you kind of take out of that,

640
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: like so your father kind of told you that, like

641
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: men kind of keep their feelings inside and like keep

642
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: it bottled up. And that's kind of what you've been doing.

643
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what you've been doing.

644
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And now, of course this is ruin. I think

645
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: two generations of men approximately, But I think that it

646
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: is a if you know how to like with a

647
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: hand grenade, if you make sure that you don't set

648
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: it off, it will be fine. Put it in the fridge.

649
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's not gonna hurt anybody.

650
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: So so this this method for you, for you least,

651
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: this this method of you know, a man, she's keeping

652
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: feelings inside and and kind of grow up and all

653
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: this this has worked for you and been a positive

654
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: thing for you in your life.

655
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 9: Well, I and yes, I do have to actually.

656
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: Admit to something before I continue my conversation.

657
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 9: I am inebriated as hell, so I might have said

658
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 9: some with retardations.

659
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. But okay, just for

660
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: the context, I should have mentioned that earlier, probably, but yes.

661
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, repeat the question because I'm too forgetful to think.

662
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: Okay, By the way, man, let's say I just so

663
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't want to talk on a

664
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: podcast right now because you're drunk, I would, Oh, I.

665
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 9: Really do not care. I mean, I have nobody knows

666
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 9: my name anyway way, so it's fine. I mean, nobody

667
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 9: in the world knows me except for my client.

668
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: And they don't really give a shit.

669
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think of what I was asking you.

670
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 1: I was asking you. You said that, Okay, you said

671
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: your father told you that, you know, to be a man,

672
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: you got to hold your feelings in and kind of

673
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: very traditional masculine stuff. And I'm asking you the stuff

674
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,479
Speaker 1: that he told you. Has it been working for you

675
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: and has it been a positive thing for you in

676
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: your life?

677
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 2: Yes, But of course with everything you have to learn.

678
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: When I was a child, it was of course a

679
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: problem because it was because when you were a child,

680
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 2: you're you want to be social, you want to do things,

681
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: you want to scream out to people, you want.

682
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 9: To you know, how you behave when you're young, and

683
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 9: that was a.

684
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: Big problem because my father always told me to shut.

685
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 9: My mouth and to never never, you know, not to not.

686
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: To be a loud mouth. Yeah, and it was a

687
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: problem for me for let's say, a few years. But

688
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: then after a bit of self analyzing, I believe that

689
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: I have perfected this method, I guess to an extent.

690
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so you've you've perfected your own version of the

691
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: way of being that your father taught you.

692
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

693
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that is that kind of the this the

694
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: type of mythology, mythology methodology that you you uh share

695
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: with your clients.

696
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 9: M No, the because the.

697
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: I'm a.

698
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 9: I'm a very honest person.

699
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 2: And even even I'm a therapist. Of course it's a therapist.

700
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: You have to be a bit careful. You can't just say, oh,

701
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: you look stupid, you should stop sucking cutting yourself. You

702
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: can't just say that out loud, right.

703
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 11: Okay, But of course you have to like jump around

704
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 11: the fence with things and you have to say, oh,

705
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 11: do it.

706
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 9: Like this, do it like that? But I do not really,

707
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 9: I'm not. I'm not like a dictator.

708
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: Of a certain time in the thirties.

709
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 9: I don't make them do things, you know, Okay, that's

710
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 9: not what.

711
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm going for there, Sure, sure, sure yeah.

712
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: M m hmm. I know this is a very weird call.

713
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know why. Why do you

714
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: feel like this is a weird call?

715
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 9: No, because because it's some drunk therapist calling a gecko.

716
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 9: I have no idea that you know what?

717
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, that is that is uh right apparently a

718
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:14,479
Speaker 1: little funny. Yes, I agree, yeah, huh do you feel

719
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm do you feel like this, this kind of the

720
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: stuff that you were talking about your father teaching you

721
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: from Europe? Is that like a European thing? Like from

722
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: your perspective, do you feel like that's kind of a

723
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: popular sentiment in Europe more so than in America.

724
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 9: Well, my father, my father is an old man. Yeah,

725
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 9: and he is he was he got kids when he

726
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 9: was older.

727
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like sixty four or something. I don't even remember.

728
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: But it's he has a more seventies and six era

729
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 2: of thinking from Europe specifically, I assume, because I mean

730
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: if I don't think he really watches any eighties in

731
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 2: television in his age. So no, I do not believe

732
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 2: that it's an American way of thinking. I believe that

733
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: it because specifically, the way that that he taught me was.

734
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 9: It was very proper, a very It's like what.

735
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: The British called posh. It's like a posh way of thinking,

736
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: I guess, right. Mental.

737
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: So for you, like all right, so so look, I mean,

738
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: you became a licensed therapist at twenty one. Well, for

739
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: for you, man, what's like the what's the rest of

740
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: your life look like? What do you what do you

741
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: aspire towards? Well?

742
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 9: Uh, well, what I what I mostly do is I'm

743
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 9: an audio technica.

744
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: I do not exactly know the translation an audio technique

745
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: and audio take care. You're right. I repair cassette machines,

746
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 2: record players, things like that.

747
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: Okay, you do that like as a hobby in addition

748
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: to the therapy.

749
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: No, I sell it. You know. It's like the shitty

750
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: knockoff version of eBay but for Austria, okay, And I

751
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: do it there and stuff. It's it's fun because I

752
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: have I always have seventies headphones. I have a lot

753
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: of old school, old school technology everywhere. And German, of

754
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: course is well built stuff. So mhm yeah, that's uh,

755
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: that's most That's mostly all I do. If I'm not

756
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: doing the other m hm.

757
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 1: So you're mostly either doing your therapy or recording cassettes

758
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: or not recording repairing electronics. Yeah, with your girlfriends.

759
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, girlfriends multiple runs. No, I do not get any

760
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: women except one.

761
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, well fascinating. Why do you say you said

762
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: at the very beginning you have you don't know why

763
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: I have this job. Why do you say that? And

764
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: I won't be say okay.

765
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 2: So whatevering's so into fascinating because uh in in Germany

766
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: and in Austria, which is.

767
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 9: Kind of the same thing. But you will be shocked

768
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 9: if you say.

769
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 11: That there's like, there's not a lot of good comedians.

770
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 11: There's not a lot of Also, I don't know what

771
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 11: you would call yourself, but I a bit small.

772
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: Of a comedian, I guess because it is.

773
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 9: It's it's a concept. It's a small concept. You have

774
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 9: a little bit of a show. I do not know

775
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 9: how big you are really, but yeah, it's so.

776
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: Interesting that that's such a simple concept of some American

777
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: fellows sitting on a couch talking to people with a.

778
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 9: Hotline as if it's nineteen ninety five and I'm watching

779
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,959
Speaker 9: like some Christmas specials and then.

780
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 2: It's a oh, you can call Santa if you call

781
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: this number. You know, Okay, I mean it's mental, it's mental.

782
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think, yes, undeniably, undeniably a little bit,

783
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit wild of an idea

784
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: for sure. May may I.

785
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: Ask, May I ask something that that potentially is uh appropriate? Sure, okay,

786
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: let me let me let me get the stuft turgeon

787
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 2: with this, With this job that you have, do you

788
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: get more of an appeal with women or not?

789
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 1: Oh? You're asking. Look, I mean, the entire reason why

790
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: I dress up in a in a gecko costume and

791
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: paint my face green. You know, it's always been, you know,

792
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: to to appeal to women. Well, I mean, from you do.

793
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: Look like a bad reenactment of what's his name Jimmy

794
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 2: Carries the Grinch?

795
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 12: Right, Okay, I mean it's I mean, honestly, I love

796
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 12: your enthusiasm, even with this conversation.

797
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 9: Honestly, you're You're a good man.

798
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: And I hope that even when you when you're fifty

799
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: eight or whatever age.

800
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 9: You die of plastic toxic whatever the Americans call it,

801
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 9: you sit retired in your with a shape like a gecko,

802
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 9: and you smoke a nice gecko shaped cigar.

803
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: You know, thank you, Thank you, Dominic. I appreciate that

804
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: blessing from you. I feel like I don't get a

805
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: whole lot of non American callers, so it's nice to

806
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: hear from you and get your perspective on.

807
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: Well, you do have an American basis, a very big

808
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: American basis. Yeah.

809
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: Hey, get this, I'm coming to Europe. I'm not going

810
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 1: to I mean, I'm going to Germany. I'm not going

811
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: to Uh.

812
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: When you stay in Europe that that's like eight different countries.

813
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: I mean we're where it's.

814
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: More than eight. It's more than eight. Fucking were you Germany, Amsterdam, Sweden, Norway,

815
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: all sorts of.

816
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: Meetings perfect I half Swedish.

817
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 9: That's why my accent sounds kind of fuck.

818
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: Look. To be honest, I probably couldn't tell the difference

819
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: between an Austrian accident and a.

820
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: Sweet but yeah, it's it's such as It's like it's

821
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: like when an American, because when an American says Europe,

822
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 2: that's that's pretty like grace they of the Union. You know,

823
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, you know, it's just a bad taste

824
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 2: in the mouth. That's like calling uh, Chicago the same

825
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: as New York. It's like, oh, they're ridixt to each other.

826
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: You know. Well, listen, it's probably like what five o'clock

827
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: in the morning.

828
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't worry. Yeah it's seven twenty two am.

829
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 9: I've been on hold since like six or five.

830
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: I have not so I don't really care.

831
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: Well, well, well, look, I'm not a real therapist, but

832
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: you should probably go to I know.

833
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 2: That's that's why I wanted to insult you little explain

834
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: a little things you know a little bit of what's

835
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 2: it called. I don't even know the name. I'm too drunk. Well, yeah,

836
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 2: whatever it was, way do whatever you want.

837
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Well, whatever it was, thanks for grace and

838
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: me with it, and I'll hope you have a good

839
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: rest of your morning.

840
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 2: I'm always going to speed. I'm always going to speed.

841
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: So I called the number. If you need real therapeutic facts,

842
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 2: you know, I sure will thank you, dominic perfect like

843
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 2: you should.

844
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: Well, all right, I guess if I ever want to

845
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: start a European therapy Goto branch, we have a guy.

846
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: They goes on the line making your phone calls.

847
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 12: Every nine never Beakon goes to hide. I'm just teaching your.

848
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 4: Cloud in your life.

849
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 12: He's not really an expert.