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Speaker 1: now listening to psional. Oh hey, guys, Welcome to this

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Speaker 1: week's episode the PSD Podcast Issue, and I'm like, really

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Speaker 1: super excited about this week's episode. Before we begin this

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Speaker 1: but not least, at Ebane Beauty. Please keep in mind

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Speaker 1: that all of my guests are ecnonymous. So let's begin

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Speaker 1: this week's show. So I'm super excited about this particular

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Speaker 1: episode because I was just talking to my guests about this,

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Speaker 1: but um, there's not a lot of brownies in it industry.

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Speaker 1: So first of all, tell our guests or tell our listeners,

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Speaker 1: what is the dominatrix? So, a dominatrix is, in simpler terms,

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Speaker 1: is a woman that likes to dominate men or women

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Speaker 1: in a setting where they have complete control. Now I

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Speaker 1: know that you are a financial dominatrix, yes, or they

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Speaker 1: normally call it fendom, right, yes, So what is a

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Speaker 1: financial dominatrix? So financial dominatrix plays into the kinks of

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Speaker 1: submissives that like to get off by having their wallets controlled.

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Speaker 1: They like having their bank accounts drain. They just basically

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Speaker 1: like to have no control over their bank accounts. Girl,

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Speaker 1: why do you think being in fendom stands out more

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Speaker 1: than any other dominatris? I think being a fendom stands

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Speaker 1: out more because when people hear dominatrics, they think of

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Speaker 1: like the TV show Billions, They think of stuff like, oh,

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Speaker 1: whip spain, you know, handcuffs, stuff like that. But when

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Speaker 1: you hear fendomin financial dominatrics, it's a new thing. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: financial dominators I didn't know that, like, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: someone out there controlling someone's wallet. Yeah, I didn't know

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Speaker 1: people get off of that, Like you know, I thought

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Speaker 1: men only like to be spanked and whipped or whatever

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Speaker 1: in that sense, but when it comes up being a finndom,

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Speaker 1: it's just a whole another realm. So how did you

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Speaker 1: start on this journey? Like, because I know you're from

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Speaker 1: the South, so that's I was like, I'm super excited

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Speaker 1: down down South. Girl's gotta stick together. But when did

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Speaker 1: you discover or financial dominators or what's the nickname for it,

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Speaker 1: it's pen dominic or that's a new one. I like

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Speaker 1: that one. So basically, um, I moved here two years ago.

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Speaker 1: I actually moved here for grad school, so I also

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Speaker 1: work in corporate fashion as my nine to five. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so like when I moved here, I was just all

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Speaker 1: school based and things like that, and um so then

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Speaker 1: when I got here, I was like, okay, so I'm

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Speaker 1: in New York. I'm finally in a city where people

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Speaker 1: are doing things because I'm like from North Carolina where

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Speaker 1: there's nothing going on. Ever, so I was like, this

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Speaker 1: a place where you know, like people are into different

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Speaker 1: things that I need to capitalize off of that. So

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Speaker 1: then I just did my research on like you know,

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Speaker 1: to do. It was literally just me googling. But what

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Speaker 1: made you google that? Like it just popped in your head. Well,

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Speaker 1: I've always been like very sexually open and very open

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Speaker 1: about my sexuality and just naturally like being an Aquarius

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Speaker 1: like we just like, oh my god, girl, we are

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Speaker 1: so I knew it. Girl, what's your birthday? January Twain six,

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Speaker 1: my god. Yes, I love aquariuis And I always know

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Speaker 1: when I'm around a criticis because we're just alike so

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Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, I'm just gonna be

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Speaker 1: And that's just how I got into it. So when

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Speaker 1: like I googled, I was like, oh, I didn't know

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Speaker 1: there was like financial dominator that existed, But I'm like,

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Speaker 1: of laid m hm. So at this point, now I

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Speaker 1: know you have like clients, walk us through a day

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Speaker 1: nighttime only or doing a day as well? Girl, I

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Speaker 1: do all day seven Monday through Sunday, Like you can

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Speaker 1: never miss out on the coin like ever, so I

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Speaker 1: walk us through a day. So a good day would

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Speaker 1: be like going on Twitter, like making a post where

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Speaker 1: it's like maybe I just might post a selfie or

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Speaker 1: like a video I took going out or whatever. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a specialized video for the situation,

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Speaker 1: but it could be a day where I just wake up,

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Speaker 1: I'll make the post. I'll say something to me like

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Speaker 1: hey loser, I deserve your whole paycheck, or hey loser,

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Speaker 1: don't spend any money today spending all on me. I'll

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Speaker 1: do the hashtags and then the money just starts coming in. Yes,

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Speaker 1: now I know that you go to like because I

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Speaker 1: did not researching you. I know you go to the

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Speaker 1: a t M with these guys too, Yes, so how

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Speaker 1: does that happen? So um? A TM meetups are like

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Speaker 1: another fetish within most people think of finn dominate. Think, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: strictly online, these guys have never meet me in person.

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Speaker 1: But then you have some guys that actually do want

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Speaker 1: to meet in person. So like a TM meet up

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Speaker 1: is just crazy. Yes, a TM meet up is like

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Speaker 1: them agreeing. It's always consent. So like you agree that

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Speaker 1: Being in New York, it makes it easier because you know,

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Speaker 1: a t M s are everywhere. People are always out,

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Speaker 1: so you're always in a public setting. You're never anywhere

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Speaker 1: like sketchy or whatever. So like you'll meet the person

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Speaker 1: at the a t M. You'll tell them what amount

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Speaker 1: you want them to take out. They take it out,

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Speaker 1: you might see something rude you might spit on them.

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Speaker 1: You might make them kiss, you might spit on them. Yes,

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Speaker 1: nah's the wrong. I think that's the big thing I

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Speaker 1: want people to know is that, like it's all consent,

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Speaker 1: so I'm never doing anything or fin dooms are never

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Speaker 1: doing anything that the guy doesn't agree to. Right, So

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Speaker 1: when you set those boundaries like ahead of time, it

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Speaker 1: just all works out and you say something meaning them

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Speaker 1: and they walk away and that's it, and that's what

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Speaker 1: it is. That's what they call in the fandom world

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Speaker 1: a cash meat. What do you what do you think

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Speaker 1: it's the worst thing you ever said till the nigga

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Speaker 1: that they had to like, oh ship, Like I think

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Speaker 1: I kind of pushed it. I think the worst thing

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Speaker 1: I ever said was like insulting a guy's like penisize,

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Speaker 1: because I think that's the worst thing you can say.

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Speaker 1: But surprisingly, you'll be surprised that these white men love it.

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Speaker 1: So it's mostly their clientele only white, yes, mostly white, yes, majority,

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Speaker 1: they'd be loving on you, man, they love it. Most

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Speaker 1: of them are like Wall streetment So like you gotta understand,

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Speaker 1: these men are like empower all the time. So if

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Speaker 1: they have their power stripped away for an hour, they

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Speaker 1: love it, Yo, that is so crazy you'd be having

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Speaker 1: these whitening But the a TM give you all their money. Ma'am,

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Speaker 1: what would you say was the most amount of money

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Speaker 1: you ever got from a white nigga at the A

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Speaker 1: t M at the A t M eight. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: in the wrong business. You gotta get understands, I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you for real markets. So I love the fact that, Um,

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Speaker 1: in the then dom community, y'all call these niggas pay pigs. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so explain exactly what a pay pig is. So, a

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Speaker 1: paypig is someone who knows he's giving up his rights

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Speaker 1: to his wallet. He knows that he's here to pay money,

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Speaker 1: he knows that he's there to support doms in anyway.

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Speaker 1: So pretty much pay pigs know their place. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of a degrading name in a way, but they're

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Speaker 1: fine with it. They know what goes on. And the

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Speaker 1: white niggas it was like, yeah, perfect, exactly exactly, So

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Speaker 1: it just all works out. Has that ever't been a

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Speaker 1: situation where you felt uncomfortable? Um, Like, what else do

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Speaker 1: you do besides the a TM meet ups? Like, do

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Speaker 1: you have like a certain location when you can meet

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Speaker 1: up with them? And like going to like you're not

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Speaker 1: your role, but like like your profession. So I pretty

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Speaker 1: much like when I do a TM meetups, I like

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Speaker 1: them to meet um up near my apartment, like up

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Speaker 1: I do these things. Yeah, so I think I think

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Speaker 1: you have some guys that really just want you to

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Speaker 1: pee on them or like take a dump on them,

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Speaker 1: and that's something I would never do. I just can't

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Speaker 1: bring myself to do it. What they give you mad

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Speaker 1: money for it though, Well that maybe we can talk,

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Speaker 1: but but now it's like it's something it's really that.

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Speaker 1: I think that situation is a mind over matter because

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Speaker 1: you got it just it just seems like a lot

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Speaker 1: to me. It seems like a lot of clean up

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Speaker 1: to do that, Like you know, when I was doing

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Speaker 1: my research on this topic, I mean that is true.

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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the the clientele is

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Speaker 1: just so amazing to me how they just want to

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Speaker 1: be in a submissive role and just want somebody just

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Speaker 1: to like have power over them, which is like crazy

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Speaker 1: to me because it's like you already in power, but

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Speaker 1: it's crazy to me. I think it's just been giving

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Speaker 1: But uh, do pay pis do anything else? Like how

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Speaker 1: do you ever want to be involved with them? No?

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Speaker 1: I want no, because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: they're like losers sitting like in every aspect, even in

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Speaker 1: like an acting aspect of loosers, but like in real

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Speaker 1: life their losers to me, like I've had but I've

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Speaker 1: had pay pigs that want to be like other type

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Speaker 1: of servants. So like they might want to clean your

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. So like yeah, so like personally, I

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Speaker 1: like I can clean my own house, and you don't

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Speaker 1: want strangers just coming into your home, right, So, but

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Speaker 1: like a lot of them like to offer that service.

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Speaker 1: You might have something that be like oh, well I

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Speaker 1: don't really make that much money, but I can do

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Speaker 1: So like the spection is like really big in that

426
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Speaker 1: community for sure, exactly exactly, especially living in New York.

427
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 1: So it's like I don't want anyone to feel like

428
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 1: they'll come to my party and be recorded. Mm. So

429
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 1: that's why I literally like posted, I'm making all those

430
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: things where you literally have to be there. You just

431
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,679
Speaker 1: have to be there. And I think the mystery of

432
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 1: it is what builds up the interest also exactly, And

433
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 1: I like one thing about you is you don't look

434
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 1: like what you do. That's good, Yes, I think that.

435
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't judge the book by its cover,

436
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 1: but I think there's sometimes people also find like peace

437
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 1: knowing day Okay, this girl nine to five, just like me,

438
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 1: is discreet. You did a screen and so I know

439
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:10,640
Speaker 1: that my um my persona would be safe. Yeah, so

440
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 1: like um like when people know that they would be

441
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: protecting and that you know because I made it a thing.

442
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: I made it a thing where it's like, um, you

443
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 1: would only have your phone at the bar, at the

444
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: park elsewhere it wasn't gonna happen. Do what you could

445
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 1: kick them out? Oh yeah, well first of all, give

446
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 1: them a warning. You're gonna get people warning. And then

447
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 1: after it's like look already, because the thing is I

448
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: felt like I shouldn't have had to give the warning

449
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 1: because it was in the event description. Right. Yeah, now

450
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: I'll do it for you. That's what's up. So I

451
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 1: know a lot of my listeners are interestedness because I

452
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: definitely did, like I'm really excited about talking to you

453
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 1: about being a fendom. What's some dudes and don't be

454
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: in the fendom community. So and then I don't want

455
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: you to get everything maybe like three dudes, three don't

456
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: because I really want people to like they are interested,

457
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 1: to like seek you well and support you. So I

458
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: think the biggest don't is so the number one don't

459
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 1: is to not come in um thinking that things are

460
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 1: gonna fall into your lap. I have a lot of

461
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: women on mentor. They can only go for an hour

462
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: and they're already texting me like I'm not getting anything,

463
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 1: like since you just started an hour ago, Like I'm confused. Yeah,

464
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: So like you have like you have impatient people. And

465
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: then I think my second don't is to um, don't

466
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 1: come in as thinking you know everything. You have to

467
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: come in as a learner. Even with me now, I

468
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: still consider myself a learner. There's things I learned every day.

469
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: Do you have a mentor? I don't, but I belive

470
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: have one. I'm very open to it. Um because I'm

471
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 1: very would you prefer a black woman or a white woman?

472
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: Black woman woman? Yeah, white woman? Who who was that right?

473
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, like, um, definitely. So that's my second rule

474
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: is to like, don't come in thinking you know everything.

475
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: And I think my third thing would be like, um,

476
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: you can't come into this being conservative. It's it's it's

477
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: just not gonna work out. It's it's too much of

478
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: a class. It's too much because people have to understand.

479
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: People have to understand I think a lot of women

480
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: to understand and dominators work. Even though most of the

481
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: time you're not having sex with your clients, it is

482
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 1: still consider sex work. And as soon as women here

483
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: sex work, they think, oh no, I'm not this, I'm

484
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: not that since you are, like yo, I just interview

485
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: an escort and we talked about like how people look

486
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: down on sex workers and I'm like, it's just so crazy,

487
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: and then up we also talk about how different sex

488
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: workers look down on each other because it's still sex work, right,

489
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: it is. It is still sex work, even people don't

490
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: even look at there's some women, you know, they are

491
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: like sugar babies. That's still sex work too, in a way, absolutely,

492
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: because it's a transacual, be your transactional exactly like sex

493
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: work doesn't. You don't have to necessarily have sex for

494
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: sex work, but sex work involves the selling of some

495
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: type of sexual fantasy, right, Yeah, so what would you

496
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 1: stay would be some dude, So dudes were definitely be

497
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: like to be confident. If you're not confident, this is

498
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: not gonna work out for you. Um, if you don't

499
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: believe that you're gonna make the money or like people

500
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: are gonna come to you, it's not for you at all. Um,

501
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: definitely get the second dude is to definitely get into

502
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 1: a mindset of being rude. Penn Doom is not a

503
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: place to be nice. Once you're nice, that's in the

504
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: stub like, oh no, she's not for real, she's too nice.

505
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: Nikkas really wants you to be aggressive with though, Yes,

506
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: and I'm like when like people don't understand how that works.

507
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, says he's literally telling you to be mean.

508
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: You could be mean any other day. You can cutch

509
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: anybody else out you're having a bad day because money.

510
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: But do you think these white niggas be doing it

511
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: like like a fattish standpoint? Um, definitely from a fatish standpoint.

512
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: I think some of them, some of them, I've met

513
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: some that I literally like that in their everyday life,

514
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: Like they like phin Doom is not just what they're

515
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: getting in a session at that hour, they're literally just

516
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: live that life all the time. Mm hmm. That's crazy.

517
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: Do you be stepping on these white niggas balls? It's

518
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: called ball busting? Yes, girl, that's crazy. What's the craziest

519
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: you did think you did to a white nigga? Um? Oh,

520
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: I would definitely have to say the pegging for sure.

521
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: Can you be pegging? Girl? Yes? I love pegging, and

522
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: they probably love that ship. They love it, Oh my god,

523
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: they'd be running from it, and like when the crazy

524
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: thing is when I do it, I'd be like, yo,

525
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: now I see what nigga is like hitting it from

526
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: the back because there's so much power like this ship. Yeah, yeah,

527
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: that's crazy. And at these white niggers be going home

528
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: Like you know what else is crazy? It's not so

529
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: crazy how we just can't be ourselves. Yeah, Like, as

530
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about it, like it's crazy to me,

531
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: how like we have to be ourselves in the dark

532
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: and we just really can't just be out in the

533
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: world be ourselves because we're afraid of people gonna judge exactly.

534
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: But there's so many people out here living this life. No,

535
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: that's what's up. Well is some advice you would give

536
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: to our listeners that probably want of h be up

537
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: and dom but they're not too confident in themselves. Because

538
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you have the big confident Yeah. My

539
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: number one advice to be first of all, reach out

540
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: to me. Yes for sure. For mentorship, UM, I provide

541
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: mentorship around the clock. UM seven is endless. UM definitely like,

542
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: know what you're getting into before you do it. Uh,

543
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: definitely do a little bit of research. It's okay to

544
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: come with questions, but at least know what it is.

545
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: You don't understand how many women I get. It's just

546
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: like work spend down and I'm like, says, you could

547
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: have just googled it in five seconds and then came

548
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: and asked questions. So I feel like my biggest thing

549
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: is having UM accountability. UM knowing too that you want

550
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: to do the work, that you're legit interested in it.

551
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: That's something that you're just saying, Well, I woke up

552
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: today and I need money for my bills. I'm gonna

553
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: do it. It doesn't work like that because the thing

554
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: about fendom people don't understand is that you have to

555
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,239
Speaker 1: have the mental capacity and mental strength to do it,

556
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: because it is a thing sometimes before you have to

557
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: step outside of yourself. You have to act out of

558
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: your character. You have to get out of your own

559
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: head to do it. And do you have to like

560
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: after you're done. I'm pretty sure you have to like

561
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: do something that to get get out of the character.

562
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: We'll see. When I'm doing my findom, I just more

563
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: so go on about my day. I don't really have

564
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: to do anything specially out of character. But when I

565
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: do my in person sessions, um use the after sessions

566
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: that you have to smoke the kind of like you know,

567
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: chill out or just like hang out with friends or

568
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: something like that. Because it is in a way, like

569
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: people don't want to admit this. I think this is

570
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: a transparency of it all. It's like, at the end

571
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: of the day, the BDSM world, the dominatious world, in

572
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: a way, it's acting. You're acting. You're playing a fantasy

573
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: for somebody, right, because I haven't been a fantasy that

574
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: you turned down. Besides, like the ship and appea, or

575
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: do you do it all? I do it all. There's

576
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: not a lot. Like I'm really like resistance again, um,

577
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: because I know you deal with mostly your clientele as

578
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: white man has ever been like on some slavery ship

579
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: and I know white man be into that ship, so

580
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: there has been like slave play, but the thing is

581
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: the slave play, it's the other way around. So they

582
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: want to be treated like ship like slaves space they

583
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: want Yeah yeah, so no, that's crazy. Well I am

584
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: super excited about this conversation. I think that I'm gonna

585
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: definitely be in contact with you because I have a

586
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: couple of things not working on. But are you thinking

587
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: about something like any like toys or anything, because I'm

588
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: pretty sure like there's a with the pagan and everything,

589
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: like you use certain things, so not toys. But so

590
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: this September September second, I'm going to be in a

591
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: part of the Sex Expo in Brooklyn. Yeah, so I'm

592
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: gonna have an exhibit and my zibbit it's gonna be

593
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: called Manifestation and Masturbation, So how to shape shape your

594
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: reality through climax. Um, So basically I will be making

595
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: my own sex oils that I would be selling and

596
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: have goody bags. Yeah. So like my table. Like even

597
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: on the Sex Expo website, I made sure that my

598
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: description because they had descriptions for each exhibitor, and I

599
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: make sure my description said teaching black folk about King

600
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: m hm. So I think that's gonna be my big

601
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: basis about my table. I'm not going in there trying

602
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: to be like every other person. I'm going in there saying, hey,

603
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm here for black people. This is what I'm here for.

604
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: Either you're gonna stop on my tablen't like it, or

605
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: you're not, but I'm still here. So yeah, it's gonna be.

606
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna I think that's really amazing because I think

607
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: that just goes back to when we said earlier about

608
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: how like black people are just not starting to get

609
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: the understanding or even knowing what keep means or the

610
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: history behind it specs and going so many different ways exactly.

611
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: People don't understand it. It's so many things explore out there. No,

612
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm excited that I spoke to you. Like I said, guys,

613
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: if you're interested in going to her Halloween party, um,

614
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: if you want to know more about her sex or

615
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: please hit me up and hello at the professional homeguard

616
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: dot Com. And I think this was a great exciting episode.

617
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: It was I loved it. It It was just felt so

618
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: natural talk. I told you there were from the South.

619
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: That's how it's gonna. Are we gonna hang out? Yes,

620
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: hang out? I'm telling you. If I'm gonna keep stressing me, y'all,

621
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: girl about to do your men two you have because

622
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: that's a lot, girl, I can Yeah, it's a lot.

623
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: It was to the point today where I had to say, look,

624
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: mentoring is on pause right now, y'all, because yeah, one

625
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: more thing, because I think this is important because I

626
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: know as women, we all like we all just do

627
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: so much. Because I have a nine of five, I

628
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: have my basin company, which I'm gonna give you some

629
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: lashes turn out, yeah, and I have the podcast. So like,

630
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: one thing that I'm struggling with is balanced. So how

631
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: do you think to balance everything? I think, um, before

632
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: I go to bed every night, I say affirmations. So

633
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on affirmations. I'm really big on writing

634
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: and putting it away and not stressing over it. Um.

635
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Speaker 1: So when it comes to businesses like this and juggling

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Speaker 1: multiple businesses, you have to have clarity because if you

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Speaker 1: don't have clarity, you'll get so lost in what you're

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Speaker 1: doing that you'll forget some thing. Is my biggest thing

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Speaker 1: is just because you can't get lost in it exactly,

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Speaker 1: you can. So my thing is just wake up with

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Speaker 1: a solid plan every morning, even if it's just Okay,

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Speaker 1: well i'm gonna go to work today, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: to mentors and that's it. Stick to your plan, don't

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Speaker 1: make don't overwork yourself. Like I was telling myself, I

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Speaker 1: get people that message me all day by being mentor.

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Speaker 1: I tell myself, I'm going to reply from this time

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Speaker 1: to this time exactly. So I'm going to talk to

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Speaker 1: people from this time to this time. After this time,

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Speaker 1: nothing else matters, only my time, because those people will

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Speaker 1: still be there. I can talk to you tomorrow. They'll

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Speaker 1: be fine, they'll live. Nah's yeah. Well, on that note,

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Speaker 1: until next time, guys later bye,