1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody, third hour of the Clay Travis N. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Get's going right now. We are joined 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: by the Florida State Attorney General, James both Meier, A 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: g uth Meyer Attorney General. Appreciate you making time for 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: us today from the great state of Florida, my home state. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: Love this place, Love the way that this whole state 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: is trending. Thank you for all of your work on 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: the law enforcement side. Play ask some specific questions we 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: want to get to here in a second. 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: I just wanted to. 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Know, talk to me about some of the trends, the 12 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: top priorities. What are you doing from a law enforcement 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: perspective under your tenure here in Florida, because it feels 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: like the state is overall really really cooking. 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we look, we're prosecuting, we're enforcing law and order, 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 3: We're putting bad guys away, and our crime rates continue 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: to go way way down. You know, when I took office, 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: Florida was already at record crime lows, but the topic 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: of fit was coming up every time I talked to sheriffs. 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 3: It was surging in the communities across the state. Now, 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: just over a year later, our fental death rate is 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: down over thirty five percent. Our fentel cases are down 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: almost sixty percent. Prime continues to plummet because we figured 24 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: it out here. We support law enforcement. We give them 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 3: the tools to be successful. We support the federal government 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 3: with their efforts, especially on illegal immigration. It's not hard, 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: it's not rocket science. You enforce the law. 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: James appreciate you coming on with us. 29 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 4: I think the last time we saw you was at 30 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 4: the Indiana Miami game for the national title. Buck's only 31 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 4: college football game of the year, so not a bad 32 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 4: one to go to, but a lot of the guys 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 4: that were playing on the field there are going to 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 4: aspire to go into the NFL one day. And one 35 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 4: of the NFL's signature, I would say sort of social 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 4: compacts has been the Rooney rule. And for people who 37 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,279 Speaker 4: don't know out there, kind of dive into the Rooney 38 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 4: rule a bit, but I'll give a kind of a 39 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: rough approximation here. Basically, the NFL requires that minorities be 40 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 4: interviewed before new coaches can be hired, and that rule 41 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 4: has been in place for around twenty years. There are 42 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 4: three NFL teams in the state of Florida, one in 43 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay, one in Jacksonville, one in Miami. As most 44 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 4: of our listeners would know, and you have now issued 45 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 4: guidance that the Rooney Rule potentially is going to be 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: violating the Florida civil rights statutes. Explain for us why 47 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 4: that's significant and what your letter said. 48 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: Sure, well, the Rooney Rule, which has been around for 49 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: a good little while, it requires NFL teams to interview 50 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 3: a number of minority candidates before hiring non minority candidates. 51 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: That requires some assistant coaching positions to be filled by 52 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 3: minorities or women. It actually goes so far as to say, 53 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 3: if you have have minorities, you know that advance into 54 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 3: higher coaching positions from your staff, there's a scenario where 55 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: you can be awarded additional draft picks. So teams are 56 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: clearly required to violate Florida law. We have a civil 57 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: rights act that's been on the books for decades. You 58 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: cannot discriminate against people based on the color of their skin, 59 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,279 Speaker 3: based on race when it comes to hiring and advancement. 60 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 3: You know a lot of states are looking at DEI 61 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: and the problems associated with it. Some states are passing 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: new laws, but the reality is we don't really need 63 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: to most every state has a long standing civil rights Act. 64 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: I think the civil rights movement did some wonderful things 65 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: to ensure the rights the benefits of our constitution are 66 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: being afforded to all people equally. And today, you know, 67 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: we've seen the pendulum swings so far where people are 68 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: being discriminated against because they're white. So look fans at home, 69 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: they're not, you know, wanting teams to hire people based 70 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: on color. They care about the color of the jersey 71 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: of their team. They want to see their team win. 72 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: They don't care what race is winning. They want to 73 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: see people, you know, hired and promoted based on merit. 74 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: So what do you expect to happen based on this letter? 75 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 4: And by the way, I think you're one hundred percent 76 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 4: right on the law. I've been one of the few 77 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 4: people who's been pointing out for some time that this 78 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: flies in the face of I think not only a 79 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 4: lot of state law, but federal law. Given that roughly 80 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 4: a third of NFL teams are based in the state 81 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 4: of Florida. What's the What have you asked the NFL 82 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: to do and what do you anticipate going forward? 83 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: Well, I've asked the NFL to get back to me 84 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: by May one, so a little over a month away, 85 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 3: and confirm that they're going to remove this rule, remove 86 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: these requirements that are unlawful here in Florida and I 87 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: believe many other states. And if they don't do it, 88 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: then you know, we'll pursue formal legal action in court. 89 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: But I'm a big believer in trying to work things out, 90 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: talk things out. Hopefully they'll do a deep dive and 91 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: realize that their policy is indeed illegal. And look, you know, 92 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 3: if minorities are getting jobs and doing well, performing well, 93 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: I am all for it. I could not be happier. 94 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 3: But what does this rule say to to minority candidates 95 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 3: that are getting jobs on merit? How do they know 96 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: if they're being hired and advanced because they deserve it 97 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: and not because of some other legal technicality. So when 98 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: I took this job, I told my team, we're going 99 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: to do the right thing no matter what, We're going 100 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: to do the right thing, even if it brings negative 101 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 3: press and costs of something. And this is one of 102 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: those examples where this violates the law and we've got 103 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: to do the right thing. 104 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: Speaking to Florida Attorney General Uth Meyer and mister Attorney General. 105 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: You have obviously been involved with the Alligator Alcatraz situation 106 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: here in this state. It's got a lot of national 107 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: at tension. We talked about it. What is the status 108 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: of that detail facility and how would you say the 109 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: cooperation level is going with federal authorities for lawful deportations 110 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: to be occurring at the pace that the administration is seeking. 111 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: Well, Alligator Alcatraz is still up and running. You know, 112 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: the media doesn't talk about it anymore after they, you know, 113 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 3: helped incentivize and promote a bunch of sham lawsuits that 114 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: were all struck down. So it's been operating every day. 115 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: Never never once was closed down despite some reports. And 116 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: I'll tell you it. You know, I understand the name. 117 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: It gets some attention, it gets a chuckle, but the 118 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: reality is the location was important money on some new 119 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: perimeter is thirty two square mile of runway which is 120 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: a non public use airport for law enforcement training. It 121 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 3: was abandoned for commercial use back in the sixties or seventies. 122 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: It's got a two and a half mile runway. So 123 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: when it comes to deportation flights, people can get busted there, 124 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: you know, they can't really escape. If they do, there's 125 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: nowhere to go, and then there's an easy one way 126 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: out flight to get them back to where they came from. 127 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: I'll tell you, I've looked at the roster of people 128 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: that have been housed there going back to the beginning, 129 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: and a lot of these people they serve time or 130 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: were charged with some of the most heinous offenses murder, 131 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: attempted murder, sexual assault, abusive children. The media never talked 132 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: about that. They acted like this place was inhumane, but 133 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: they did not highlight, you know, the victims out there 134 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: that suffered greatly at the hands of some of these 135 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: people that never should have been. You mentioned that the 136 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: overall is like Minnesota here. 137 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 4: You mentioned that the overall crime rates have been declining 138 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: precipitously in Florida, and I know we have a lot 139 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: of Floridians who would be very happy with that. Where 140 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 4: can you do better? Are there parts of the state 141 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: that still have too high of a crime rate? How 142 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: much you know, We've talked to Memphis, for example, where 143 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: I live in Tennessee. The mayor of Memphis has been 144 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 4: somewhat willing to work with the Trump administration. How much 145 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 4: your Democrat mayors fighting you on some of these things. 146 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 4: Where do you think the state of Florida can still 147 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 4: improve when it comes to trying to tamp down on 148 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 4: a crime. 149 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you hit the nail on the head. Our 150 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: crime rates are not where they should be in areas 151 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: like Broward County, Orange County, that's Orlando, and these are 152 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: areas where we have Democrat officials in charge. They just 153 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: they do not take it seriously. We had a prosecutor 154 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 3: in Orlando who stipulated to let a guy who attempted 155 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: to murder somebody out on probation. Only we're shortly thereafter 156 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: he shot and killed three tourists at Disney just a 157 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: couple months ago. This stuff cannot happen. We're fighting this, 158 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 3: you know, epidemic across the country. We need to lock 159 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 3: bad people up for a while. A one area in 160 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: Florida we still have to address a human trafficking is 161 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 3: a big deal, especially in South Florida. It's the third 162 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: highest traffic area in the country because of the wealth, 163 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: the international presence, the entertainment. So I've made it a 164 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: big initiative working with our prosecutors and local law enforcement 165 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: there going into World Cup, FIFA going into f one. 166 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: We're going to be all hands on deck to stop 167 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 3: this predatory practice that's very, very criminal. 168 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: Is there any specific outreach or connectivity with the Trump 169 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: White House on you know, you haven't had the situation 170 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: of national focus that say DC has had, or we 171 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: mentioned Memphis before, and I know we're talking statewide now 172 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: with Florida, but with any city here, it hasn't come 173 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: up in that conversation of there's an emergency like a Memphis, 174 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: like a Chicago, like DC, of persistent crime numbers that 175 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: are too high and don't come down. But is there 176 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: some federal working with you or working with state authorities 177 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: to help an area like Orlando, for example, or are 178 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: those resources not really needed at this point the way 179 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: they are in some of those other cities. 180 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: This federal government has been fantastic, everything from the FBI, 181 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 3: the Homeland Security to the Marshals. You know, we've rescued 182 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: almost four hundred missing kids in the last year, and 183 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: the US Marshals have been a fantastic partner in that operation. 184 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: You know, we had some cases where we were not 185 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 3: getting help under the Biden administration. We had a trafficking 186 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: case where a guy had molested in traffic children, and 187 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,359 Speaker 3: we couldn't get DJ under Biden to take it seriously, 188 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: and within a year we've locked somebody up for the 189 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: rest of his life because we had a federal government 190 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: that shared evidence and supported us, and that that example 191 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: is not isolated. It goes across the board, so we 192 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: take advantage of it. We're very blessed. 193 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 2: James. 194 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 4: There is a video, and I know you may not 195 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: want to comment on a specific case, but I'm sure 196 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: that your team has seen it of a famous online 197 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 4: influencer shooting alligators allegedly. 198 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: What is the rule on something like that? 199 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: And how often nowadays do people begin to investigate crimes 200 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 4: sometimes maybe even it's often based on social media posts. 201 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look in that case, what I'll say is, 202 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: I know local law enforcement is already engaged. They were 203 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: right away. The Fish and Wildlife Commission has certainly seen 204 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 3: the video and is investigating as well. You know, the 205 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: head of my communications team, Jeremy's, he told me I 206 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: need to go ahead and announce that I recommend against 207 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: krima maxing in Florida, And I don't even know what 208 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: that means, which means I'm not as plugged into the 209 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 3: social media sphere as some But the reality is when 210 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: when you want to do stupid things to get attention, 211 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: you know, if you break the law here in Florida, 212 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 3: there's no exception for influencers or or public media specialists. 213 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 3: You break the law, you're going to pay for it. 214 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: So we're going to look at this and if there's 215 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 3: criminal activity, which you know seems somewhat apparent based on 216 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: first glance, there will be serious repercussions. 217 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: Just to follow up on Clay's question, shooting it, I 218 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: know it's allegations video outside of the facts of that 219 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: case that everyone can see that everyone seen the videos online. 220 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: Just as a matter of law, shooting an alligator is 221 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: very much illegal in this state. 222 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you know we've got licensing programs for alligators 223 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 3: and turkeys and beer and you know anything you want 224 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: to go on to hunt. You can't just go out 225 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 3: and start shooting animals, shooting alligators without the proper tags. 226 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: So yes, it is a right. 227 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know you. This is much less serious 228 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 4: than that. I didn't realize you were a national champion 229 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 4: Florida Gator athlete. My team just told me about this 230 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 4: that you ran for the Florida Gators. What did you 231 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 4: think of the loss to Iowa for the defending Florida 232 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 4: Gator national champs? And what do you think of the 233 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: new football high or Buck's wife is a Florida Gator 234 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 4: grad as well. What can you tell us as a 235 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 4: former athlete with the Gators about the status and stature 236 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 4: of the Florida Gator athletic programs right now? 237 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 5: Uh? 238 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: Well, our our athletic program is always one of, if 239 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 3: not the best, in the country. We get the All 240 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: Sports awards very frequently. You know, the lesser known sports, uh, 241 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: you know, tennis, lacrosse, baseball, distance running, track. You know, 242 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 3: we've always had top national teams. Uh. The football team, 243 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: it's you know, it's had its struggles of late. You know, 244 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 3: I was there for the whole t bow era and 245 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: it seems like yesterday. But I guess I'm getting older. 246 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 3: Uh well, we'll be back one way or another. The 247 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: basketball loss was heartbreaking. You know, I do think that 248 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: team had even more talent than the team the year before. 249 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: And you know, in the March madness, things have to 250 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: drop your way, and you know we we didn't yet. 251 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: Some of the lucky bounces, some of the penalty calls. 252 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: We didn't have the hoops dropping where we needed them. 253 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: But I think a lot of that team is going 254 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: to be back, So I'm very optimistic. I think we've 255 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: got a good coach, a good team. We'll be ready 256 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: for next year. 257 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 4: You are also endorsed by Trump and on the ballot 258 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 4: this year. For people who don't know, how can they 259 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 4: go find out about your race and and support you 260 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 4: because I think you've done a really good job. 261 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate it people. You know, people hopefully are 262 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: seeing me out there. I've done the job as much 263 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: as I can. You know, as a longtime staffer that 264 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 3: focused on policy, it was an honor to be Gunnor 265 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: Desanti's chief of staff for almost four years and to 266 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: be part of the you know, the great policies on 267 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: public safety, education, school choice, you name it over the 268 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: last few years. It's it's weird now to be a 269 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: candidate and beforeward facing, but I'm out there fighting the fight. 270 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna support law enforcement. I'm gonna do everything I 271 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 3: can to put bad guys away theeople at home. Hopefully, 272 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: you know have seen that, or we'll see it. If 273 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: you want to learn more, you can visit James forrefl 274 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: dot com. I'm on social media everywhere. I love good ideas. 275 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 3: If there's a wrong we need to address in Florida, 276 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: I'm ready to do it, no matter who it's going 277 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: to take off. Awesome. 278 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: I live here, and you've done a great job as 279 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: Attorney General for the years that I've lived here, mister A. 280 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: G uth Meyer, So thank you so much. Appreciate you 281 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: being with us. All right. As to that high five, Yeah, 282 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: he has done a great job. 283 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 4: Look all over the country of Israel right now, it 284 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 4: is incredibly difficult, uh, for so many people out there 285 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 4: to deal with the challenges of the constant missiles, of 286 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 4: the constant drone strikes, and as a result, there are 287 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 4: a ton of people that are constantly finding themselves in 288 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 4: bomb shelters. You know, the International Fellowship of Christians and 289 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 4: Jews is one of the top locations out there for 290 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 4: providing bomb shelters to so many different people of all 291 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 4: different backgrounds in Israel. They also provide food and emergency supplies, 292 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 4: and they care for the elderly, including Holocaust survivors. Right now, 293 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 4: people of Israel need your help. You can join both 294 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: Buck and myself in helping those in need at the 295 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: IFCJ IFCJ dot org that's the International Fellowship of Christians 296 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 4: and Jews. You can also call eight eight eight four 297 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 4: eight eight IFCJ. That's IFCJ dot org eight eight eight 298 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 4: four eight eight if CJ. Sometimes all you can do 299 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 4: is laugh, and they do a lot of it with 300 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 4: the Sunday Hang. 301 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: Join Clay and Buck as they laugh it up. 302 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,359 Speaker 4: In the Klay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio 303 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 4: app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in 304 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,479 Speaker 4: Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 305 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: We'll take back. 306 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 4: Take some of your call as we continue to roll 307 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: through the program, get to some of your talkbacks. Mike 308 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 4: Baker gonna join us, Buck, he's a former CIA analyst. 309 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: You can correct me if I'm wrong. 310 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: And oh no, no, oh no, no, oh no, no, 311 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: oh no no, Mike's gonna come on. He's gonna have 312 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: to throw an elbow in that one. He's a he's 313 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: a former case officer. I'm an analyst. 314 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: Oh I used to walk around. They're totally wrong. That's 315 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 2: pretty for the for the ball civilians in CIA Land, Clay. 316 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: It's like it's like you just confused somebody who was 317 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: on the football team with being a member of the 318 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: marching band, like they considered, you know, they get very 319 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: uppity about this stuff. Like I was there, like momp 320 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: bom bomp with the trombone, and Mike is like, hey, 321 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: I'll sign the football for you after the game, honey. 322 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: Uh. 323 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 4: We will talk with him, who's much more of a 324 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 4: badass than than I was giving him credit for on 325 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 4: the backside, about the situation in Iran on the ground, 326 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: everything else I want to tell you Sweet sixteen, and 327 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: major League Baseball coming back this weekend. 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Mike Baker, retired CIA COVID 344 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: Operations Officer specializing counter terrorism, counting, narcotic, counterinsurgency operations. 345 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: A lot of. 346 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: Counters, and you know you don't have them there, analyst. 347 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: You don't have analysts in their mic which don't worry. 348 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: I didn't let Clay get away with such such crazy 349 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: smears as to call you an analyst. 350 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: I was giving him a compliment. You never wore a 351 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: pocket protector. 352 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: You didn't have a You didn't have to return from 353 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: the war zone because of her running nose. 354 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 6: I like how you said that we get uppity about it. 355 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: Hm, oh no, you guys definitely get you guys definitely 356 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: get uppity about it. 357 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: Mike. 358 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: Let's be let's be honest. If an analyst ever ever 359 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: miss messed up on that, we. 360 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 6: Can we can be a little bit up our own asses, 361 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 6: that's for sure. So you're right, we can. We can 362 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 6: take offense easily. 363 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: So we had, uh, we had a woman calling on 364 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: if you know about this amazing caller Linda came up 365 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: with the idea. We think, well, she came up with 366 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: the idea, and we think it made it all the 367 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: way to the White House to put Ice in the airports, 368 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: and that's been amazing. We said, maybe she can call 369 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: in and fix straight of Horror moves. She hasn't called 370 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: back with that one yet, So I'm gonna put this 371 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: to you. You're a former CIA COVID operations officer. Fix 372 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: the straight of Horror moves, Fix the Iran War? What 373 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: do you see going on? By the way, Mike also 374 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: hosts the wildly successful PDB podcast, which all of you 375 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: should go check out. But Mike, fix the Straight of 376 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: Horror moves, Fix Iran? What's happening? 377 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, well you know what I'm with Linda. Let's send 378 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 6: Ice out to the straight see see what happens. Look, 379 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 6: this is this is the problem here. You can you 380 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 6: can believe contradictory things at the same time. Right, multiple 381 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 6: things can be true. So you can believe that the 382 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 6: Iranian regime was well deserving of a serious ass kissing, 383 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 6: ass kicking, but you can also believe that we should 384 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 6: have seen that the Strait would be the leverage point, right, 385 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 6: that it would all come down to the Straight of 386 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 6: horror moves, because we've seen this before, right, and they've 387 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 6: done this before. They've created chaos in the Straight when 388 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 6: they you know, felt threatened or they're trying to make 389 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 6: a point, or they're looking for negotiation tactics. They've threatened 390 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 6: to close the Straight four decades. So while I fully 391 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 6: support this military operation to massively degrade the military capabilities 392 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 6: of Iran, I'm a little concerned that it seems like 393 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 6: we perhaps didn't think through what admittedly in hindsight, but 394 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 6: I think it was clear before that this it was 395 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 6: going to come down to this, right, that we should 396 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 6: have had scenarios in place already that would then say, 397 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 6: if this happens, which it was going to happen, because 398 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 6: the Iranian military can't go toe to toe with the 399 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 6: US and Israelian militaries, this was the only direction they 400 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 6: could go to impact the situation and to try to 401 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 6: extract concessions. So I'm a little concerned that we now 402 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 6: seem to be in reactive mode as opposed to, you know, 403 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 6: pulling the playbook off shelf knowing that this was going 404 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 6: to happen, and look, I filled up my truck yesterday 405 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 6: one hundred and two dollars. It's untenable. From a political perspective, 406 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 6: the Republicans are going to get nass kicking in the midterms. 407 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 4: Okay, So at this point in time, we are where 408 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 4: we are, would there be any benefit to putting any 409 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 4: boots on the ground in the Strait of Hormuz related 410 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 4: area from your perspective analyzing that situation, because there's been 411 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 4: a lot of talk about taking carg Island potentially putting 412 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 4: guys and gals potentially in the Strait of Hormuz area 413 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 4: where we could control ingress and egress more so, smart 414 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 4: is it then becoming even more of a mess? How 415 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 4: would you assess that if you were asked by the president? 416 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, look, they've I think they've already tried to 417 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 6: cover their potential options. They put out two marine expeditionary 418 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 6: units I had about twenty five and soldiers each and 419 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 6: a couple thousand sailors to support. They've got the eighty 420 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 6: second Airborne sending out its elements, got a lot of 421 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 6: assets out there. And the problem is is this. It 422 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 6: doesn't take much for the Iranian regime as it exists now, 423 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 6: even after having its leadership decimated, to create this mess. Right, 424 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 6: So if you're talking about taking a handful of islands, 425 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 6: and it's not just the straight we talk about this 426 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 6: straight all the time, but the Iranians have created trouble 427 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 6: in the Gulf, right, and so their reach is pretty significant. 428 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 6: They've got a massive coastline. And so if you're talking about, 429 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 6: you know, a season occupyed operation with these assault forces, 430 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 6: and you're talking then about you have to combine that 431 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 6: with this international naval force that the president's been talking about, 432 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 6: which a number of allies are somewhat reluctant to join 433 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 6: in on while they're still fighting going on. That's well 434 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 6: and good. You can create an environment where you could 435 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 6: allow for it would be slow but safe passage of vessels, 436 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 6: but you've got the threat still you're talking. So it's 437 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 6: not in any way a long term fix. And you've 438 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 6: got to create an environment where the shipping and insurance 439 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 6: industry is feel comfortable enough to get back to business. 440 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 6: So when you talk about seizing some territory or you 441 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 6: talk about using this international naval force, how long are 442 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 6: we talking about it? Right? You can't run that indefinitely, 443 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 6: and so I'm not sure where they're going. I suspect 444 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 6: the president is really working hard to try to find 445 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 6: a way to cut a deal that means making some 446 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 6: concessions to the audience that's not going to be very popular. 447 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm speaking of Mike Baker, host of the PDB Podcas 448 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: and Mike, You're you're bringing, I think a seasoned and 449 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: somewhat salty, but in a good way perspective to the situation. 450 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: Because war is hell, and it is certainly complicated, and 451 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: the enemy gets a vote as well, and all this. 452 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: It sounds to me like your sense of this And 453 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: by the way, this is great because we've had people 454 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: asking us to have on more conservative voices who are 455 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: educated on these things, which you certainly are. Who are 456 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: you know, more critical, maybe a little more skeptical, however 457 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: you want to position it about some of the president's 458 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: military action in Iran. So I think you're bringing that 459 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: interesting or that necessary perspective into the conversation. It sounds 460 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: like I've thought this way too, by the way, for 461 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: a while now, and I just want to make sure 462 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: that this is where you are regime change that's just 463 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: not happening, Is that? Is that how you see it? 464 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: Like we're we're going to be negotiating with some form 465 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: of this regime and that's the way this is going 466 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: to play out. 467 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Look, I would love I would love to 468 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 6: see regime change. Right, You're never going to have anything 469 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 6: resembling long term piece and stability in that region or 470 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 6: a better, more prosperous, more opportune life for those people 471 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 6: in Iran with that regime in place, in whatever form. 472 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 6: And it certainly looks like the hardliners have you know, 473 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 6: cemented their position, the IRGC in particular, they've pushed that 474 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 6: political group Pozeskian and all the others to the side. 475 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,239 Speaker 6: I don't even think the clerics really are are, you know, 476 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 6: in a position of authority. I think they realize Okay, 477 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 6: from an optic in the narrative position, sure, it's still 478 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 6: a theocracy. The IRGC is running that show, and so 479 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 6: you've got to find somebody to have a discussion with. 480 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 6: But I would love to see that regime go, There's 481 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 6: no doubt about it. Like I said, they have deserved 482 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 6: this ass kicking for a long time. But I'm just 483 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 6: talking from an operational pragmatic perspective. This is messy, This 484 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 6: is this is really problematic because again, it does not 485 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 6: much to do what they're doing with this strait of 486 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 6: Hormuz and disrupting global energy markets and supplies, right, because 487 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 6: you're dealing with you've got to convince the commercial sector. 488 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 6: You've got to convince the insurers and the shippers that's 489 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 6: safe to do this. And I refuse to think that 490 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 6: the US is going to wrap itself into a long term, 491 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 6: indefinite position out there. And so then you have to 492 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 6: look at what few options you've got, and that comes 493 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 6: down to, can we find somebody who can cut a 494 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 6: deal within the Iranian leadership as it exists, and you know, 495 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 6: then call it good. But what does that do? Essentially, 496 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 6: every administration has been putting lipstick on this pig right 497 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 6: for decades, hoping that the next administration would be fine, 498 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 6: let them deal with it. So I'm glad that we 499 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 6: have significantly degraded the military capabilities of Iran. I think 500 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 6: we've what we've done is we've kicked the can much 501 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 6: further down the road than it's been kicked in the past. 502 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 6: And so you call that a success. And then you 503 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 6: move on. But the problem is the Iranian regime if 504 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 6: it's still there and there's no sign of a serious 505 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 6: fracture inside that regime at this point. If it remains, 506 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 6: you know, they're looking for some concessions in order to 507 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 6: cut that deal, and then they've always got this potential 508 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 6: for them to take the international community hostage again by 509 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 6: just a little bit of disruption in that area. 510 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 2: To what extent do you think there's likely to be 511 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: a full divergence in perspectives between the United States and Israel? 512 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: In other words, could Trump declare victory, say the United 513 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: States component aspects of this mission are complete, and then 514 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: Israel continues because they're still going to have air superiority. 515 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: I would expect this mission so long as they desire 516 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: to do so on their own. How unified do you 517 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: think this mission will be in the months ahead. 518 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you've pointed to the key difference between 519 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 6: Washington and Jerusalem, which is nen Yahoo and Israel. They 520 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 6: have looked at this as a regime change operation. Right, 521 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 6: of course, they wanted they wanted to degrade that missile 522 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 6: program as much as possible, But for them, a success 523 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 6: is is getting rid of this regime. And I think 524 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 6: that was, you know, a hope for a result from 525 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 6: the US side, but not the primary objective. So that's 526 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 6: a that's a problem. I don't think if the US, 527 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 6: you know, declares victory and figures out how to get 528 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 6: out of it that I don't think Israel will continue 529 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 6: their efforts in Iran, right, They'll be focused on Hezbolah 530 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 6: and you know some of their ground operations in southern 531 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 6: eleven and. 532 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: Mike, I think I think you have some I'm sorry, 533 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: go ahead. 534 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 6: Well, no, no, I was gonna say that we may 535 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 6: likely see the map reap it on where they end 536 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 6: up occupying sort of that that turf south of the 537 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 6: Latily River, which would be that's a significant change. 538 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: Mike, just one more thing for before we gotta gotta 539 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: close out into a break and Mike host the PDB podcast. 540 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: You can all go check out where it covers a 541 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: lot of national security political issues every every episode. Mike, 542 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: the you said the midterms you're worried about, You're not 543 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: alone there. I just think that historically speaking, if you 544 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: look at what generally happens Republicans, probably you're gonna lose 545 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: control again. People don't yell at me and everything else. 546 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but historically speaking, this is the trend, right, 547 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: You're worried it could be a little worse than that, 548 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: or rather it could be it sounds like it could 549 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: be something of a wave in the House that goes 550 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: against Trump because of this Iron situation. Do you feel 551 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: like that's now baked in? Or if Trump off ramps 552 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: effectively declares victory, gets some kind of a cessation of 553 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: how hostilities with the Iranian regime poor moves opens up, 554 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: do you think people will forget about this, There'll be 555 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: more of those kitchen table issues that usually are the 556 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: deciding factors in a midterm. 557 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think. Look, I think if the 558 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 6: best result would be if there is somehow a regime change, Right, 559 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 6: if there's just conversations going on that we don't know about, 560 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 6: and that there's there's some top commanders in IRGC that 561 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 6: have said, find we're done. This is ridiculous because they're 562 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 6: not idealogues for whatever reason, and they provide top cover 563 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 6: for the people of Iran then to come out in 564 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 6: the streets and not be slaughtered as they were in 565 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 6: the past by the internal security apparatus. That's a great result. 566 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 6: I think that could actually mitigate some of the midterm 567 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 6: losses and could actually you know, be such a win 568 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 6: in terms of a sea change in the Middle East 569 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 6: that you know, the Republicans could hold the house, you know. 570 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 6: Other than that, you know, I'm no different than everybody else. 571 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 6: You know, I go into the fuel pumps and paying 572 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 6: you know, that much more money. Forget that. It depends 573 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 6: on where that price is. You know, if if they 574 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 6: can get a resolution back out, the global markets stabilize, 575 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 6: you know, they calm that everybody drops the angst and 576 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 6: the prices dropped, then sure. Yeah, but I do think historically, 577 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 6: as you pointed out, typically you know, it's not going 578 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 6: to go well in the midterms anyway, But unless those 579 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 6: prices come down, I think there's a real problem. 580 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: Mike Baker, Hey, Mike, appreciate you and thank you for 581 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: being here as always with us, and come back soon. 582 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk to you more about this stuff 583 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: as it unfolds. 584 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 6: Absolutely, Thanks, guys, I appreciate you. 585 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I won't let Clay call you an analyst. 586 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: I promise he's not gonna pull any that crap on 587 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: my watch, all right, you know, all right, I was. 588 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 6: The bottom line was, I was never smart enough to 589 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 6: be an analyst. 590 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: So what I was about to say, I was about 591 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: to say, your analysis just now is really good. 592 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: We could have used you back in the day in 593 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: that Rock conference room. 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We'll see whether or not Democrats challenge his 627 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 4: authority to do so. And we have a bunch of talkbacks. 628 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 4: I want to get to as many of those as 629 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 4: as we can. Let's see, let's go to h Anthony 630 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 4: in Brooklyn with some high heat to take us into 631 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 4: the weekend. 632 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 5: Listen, guys, you've spoken as true duve people. I'm a 633 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 5: camp person. Cats are actually more loving than dogs. And 634 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 5: if the cat loves you and they don't give their 635 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 5: affections lightly, that is high praise. 636 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 3: Indeed, the dogs the pack animal. 637 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 5: The cat considers himself for itself equal to you. 638 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 4: Tad versus dogs. We got a big battle there. I'm 639 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 4: gonna go with dogs are way more loving. Ken and Lincoln, 640 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 4: Nebraska with the absolute worst argument in the history of 641 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 4: the show. 642 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 2: Perhaps listen to Kay Clay. 643 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 7: But good show, good having Jesse on Clay. 644 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 2: You're lost. This is Ken from Lincoln. You are so lost. 645 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 7: The only thing good about Chick fil A is that 646 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 7: they're sauce their meat. It is juicy, but there's no 647 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 7: flavor to it. Red lobster all day long, all day 648 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 7: long over Chick fil A. 649 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: Dude, can we love you? 650 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 3: Man? 651 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 1: But I mean I can only eat the grilled nuggets 652 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: that I think the grilled nuggets are delicious at Chick 653 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: fil A. 654 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 2: I think that's rough take from Ken. 655 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 4: Worst argument of all time, that Chick fil a sandwiches 656 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 4: have no flavor. Chris and Franklinton, North Carolina cut el frobrique. 657 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 8: Potato chips in ice cream sounds disgusting And I don't 658 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 8: know what that guy's talking about real Americans and flavor, 659 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 8: because Brussels sprouts are amazing when they're cooked right, seasoned, right. 660 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 7: I don't know what he's talking. 661 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 8: Nice steak with some Brussels sprouts and mashed potatoes. That's 662 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 8: almost perfection. 663 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give a little bit of backup to Jesse 664 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: on this, actually, on the Brussels sprouts. Never mind the 665 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: whispering angels play if they're not fried, Brussels sprouts kind 666 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 1: of gross.