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Speaker 1: Second date up dated. I saw something on Instagram recently

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Speaker 1: was a guy who says, I think my favorite part

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Speaker 1: of online dating is when you match with someone and

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Speaker 1: you're talking and it's going great, and three weeks later,

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Speaker 1: someone somewhere loses interest and you just never talk to

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Speaker 1: them again, and you just keep doing that over and

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Speaker 1: over and over until you're ninety and you're single and

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Speaker 1: you die alone.

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Speaker 2: It's so true. Wow, what a romantic look, Brooke.

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Speaker 1: Aren't you upset that you got married and missed the

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Speaker 1: peak era of dating apps?

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Speaker 2: Why did I do that?

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Speaker 1: Well, we have a guy on the phone who says

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Speaker 1: he also has become pretty frustrated with the online dating experience.

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Speaker 1: His name is Steven. So Steven, welcome to the show man.

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Speaker 3: How you doing yo?

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Speaker 2: You sound down?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I am pretty down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, buddy probably just closed his Tinder wrap right now

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Speaker 1: before he got on, So it's not going so well

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 4: Huh No, I mean I just can't beat anybody. Honestly,

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Speaker 4: I was so tired. I did something pretty desperate recently.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of why I called, oh, oh you did

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Speaker 1: something desperate Desperate.

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Speaker 4: Wife's on ad online it said soul made psychic.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a good catchy phrase. Yeah, what does that mean?

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Speaker 4: For fifty dollars? The person was able to draw your

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Speaker 4: soul date.

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Speaker 2: For you draw.

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Speaker 1: A sketch of them. That's actually great because then you

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Speaker 1: can see, like when you see them in real life.

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Speaker 2: Then you know, why do I feel like they stock

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Speaker 2: your social media and then draw your ass?

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Speaker 1: But you're right, if you see them out in the world,

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Speaker 1: you could just hold up this photo and be like,

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Speaker 1: we're sol made. You don't bring a photo around with you,

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Speaker 1: you just know in your head.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, wait, wait, you all believe that someone can

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Speaker 2: do this, well if.

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Speaker 1: It's a psychic, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Going to go with sure.

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Speaker 1: Brook already doesn't believe in your soulmate before she even

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Speaker 1: knows anything about it.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like either.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, we don't even know what the story is.

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Speaker 1: So you actually signed up and did this.

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Speaker 3: I did this. Twenty minutes later, I get to sketch

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Speaker 3: email to me.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's just even over it's online.

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Speaker 3: No, no, it was a phone conversation.

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Speaker 5: Oh, okay, took to her, and then she draws What

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Speaker 5: kind of questions did she ask you?

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Speaker 3: Well, she's asking me my interest, she's asking me you.

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Speaker 1: Know, but she's not asking for a physical description of

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Speaker 1: your perfect woman. She's trying to get to know you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, okay, you about you.

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Speaker 1: But then she's drawing the lady of yours? So what

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Speaker 1: did you think of the picture?

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Speaker 3: So she's very pretty, that's good.

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Speaker 2: Shocking, she didn't draw an ugly person, so weird.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's very lucky for him. I'm sure she draws

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Speaker 1: a lot of ugly people for other people. But what

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Speaker 3: I put her up a refrigerator.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, I didn't know what to do with

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Speaker 2: it away online.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you can put it on your dating app

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Speaker 5: and say this is what I'm looking for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now you're thinking brook, okay, you fill in the

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Speaker 1: for me. Well, did anything come of it?

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Speaker 4: So like a month later, I'm at this wedding and

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Speaker 4: I see a woman and it's like a shoe, exactly

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Speaker 1: No way?

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what did you do?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: First they try not to freak out. I'm like, oh

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well now you must feel the pressure on you.

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Speaker 1: So what do you do?

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Speaker 3: So I build up enough confidence and I go over

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Speaker 1: Oh, why aren't you awing yet? This is happening. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: And what did she say when you asked her to dance?

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Speaker 3: She said, yes, that we're dancing.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's happening. So now you've opened the

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Speaker 1: door for true love to step through. But the big

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Speaker 1: question is did you tell her about the soulmate photo

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Speaker 1: that was sent to you?

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Speaker 3: Well, I I told her I have a surprise for you.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, you're going to sell her. What do you

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Speaker 2: mean you told her that?

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Speaker 3: I just couldn't hold it in. It's too weird, it's

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Speaker 5: Wait, so that night, we're still at the wedding reception

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Speaker 5: and you're going to pull out the picture on your phone.

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Speaker 3: No, I know, I didn't even have a copy of it.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I'll text it to you.

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Speaker 3: I told her I'll text it.

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Speaker 2: What was your reaction though?

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Speaker 3: Did she lack?

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Speaker 1: I want to know what the caption was when you

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Speaker 3: The caption was, isn't this crazy? This looks just like you?

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh my god?

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Speaker 2: How long does it take her to respond to yours?

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Speaker 2: Is it about my first reaction? Is I have a stalker?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Or are you still waiting for a reply? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she responded, She's like, wow, that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Okay, But then it was kind of a different vibe

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Speaker 1: Oh no, maybe you have android because that happens, and

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Speaker 1: you sent it and got blurry.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't think that was it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So looking back on the events that unfolded,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he should have just brought her back to his

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Speaker 1: So at this point, where are you at now?

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Speaker 3: I mean, what are you gonna do? She woke it

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Speaker 3: back to me. Really I had to move on from there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could don't do it.

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Speaker 1: So did you call this a lady Gann and you

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Speaker 1: have a new picture drawn up?

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Speaker 4: Or I'm like, I'm kind of just back on the apps.

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Speaker 3: I'm like you, I'm thinking maybe I need to find

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Speaker 2: But you found her? So wait, wait, wait, are we

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Speaker 2: going to call this girl?

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Speaker 1: For you.

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, now because it has been a couple of.

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Speaker 1: Months, I need yeah, I mean you need closure, man.

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Speaker 3: I know anyone would I need closure from.

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Speaker 5: What he met his so many Brooke and she's ghosting

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Speaker 5: for threes okay, his life. I feel like we're trying

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Speaker 5: to force something here, but I'll be on board.

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Speaker 1: She'll give m answer.

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Speaker 1: Did we ever get the girl's name? By the way, her.

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Speaker 3: Name is Zoe?

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Speaker 1: Okaye. Well, we're gonna come back and call your soulmate

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Speaker 1: Zoe and try and get you your second date update

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Speaker 1: right after this second date update. You believe in love

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Speaker 1: at first sight? Yes, Jeff? What about Okay? So yes?

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Speaker 1: From Jose and from the girls? What about love it

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Speaker 1: first sketch? No cause. Months ago, one of our listeners, Steven,

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Speaker 1: who looks just like that photo when he was at

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Speaker 1: a wedding. Her name was Zoe, and they danced and

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Speaker 1: and up until he got home and texted her the

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Speaker 1: soulmate's sketch picture. Yeah, cooled off after that. It got

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Speaker 1: me thinking though, like, how could we help him when

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Speaker 1: we get her on the phone, and maybe we could

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Speaker 1: say that he drew the picture after he met you,

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Speaker 1: just from memory. He's a really good artist that it's

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Speaker 1: not like a soulmate thing.

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Speaker 2: I think he just apologizes and says I didn't that's.

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Speaker 1: Your answer to everything. Apologize for what he did.

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Speaker 2: It's a good photo.

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Speaker 5: It has to be flattering it, I mean, you can't lie,

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Speaker 5: Like how long is he going to keep up that

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Speaker 5: he's a good artist?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it just came to him in a

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Speaker 1: It was the heavens that just guided my hand in that.

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Speaker 1: You exactly what. Sadly, though, Stephen is back on the

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Speaker 1: saying his mind is still wondering, though, what about my

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Speaker 1: soulmate Zoe? Isn't that right, Stephen? You've never forgotten about her?

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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't forget. This wasn't that long ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but so a couple of months she could be

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad that we're going in with the positive attitude.

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Speaker 1: So my promise I will keep trying. Nobody in this

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Speaker 1: and Jose, So we're gonna do our best. Let's call

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Speaker 1: Zoe and see what she has to do.

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Speaker 5: The weight of love on your shoulders. It must be hard,

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Speaker 5: it's difficult.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. Hello, two rings, she answered. I knew it, Zoe.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for answering the phone right now. This is

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Speaker 1: Zoe right, Yes, okay, did you know that too? That

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Speaker 1: right now with a show called Brook and Jeffrey in

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Speaker 1: the morning. Oh Zoe, how you doing?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm okay, okay, Yeah? Why am I being

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Speaker 6: cold right now?

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Speaker 1: Well? Some might say it's fate that brought us to

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Speaker 1: you today, but others would just say it's one of

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Speaker 1: our listeners named Stephen who asked us to call you.

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Speaker 6: No, no, thank you? No?

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Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, do you remember Stephen?

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Speaker 6: No, I'm not no.

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Speaker 1: Uh wow, that's a picture. Really worked I guess.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, so Zoe, we're doing a segment here called

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Speaker 1: a second Date Update where we're trying to help Steven

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Speaker 1: get in touch with you again because it's been a

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Speaker 1: while since you've chatted since the wedding.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, there's a reason why we haven't chatted.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Well do you do you want to tell us?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like it's very clear why you're

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Speaker 1: I mean, you clear to him. We don't we don't

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think it's clear to him that I'm

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Speaker 6: not really up for him wanting to date my mom.

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Speaker 1: So why.

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Speaker 2: Did he hit on your mom at the wedding reception?

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Speaker 6: Or as far as I know, he hasn't met my mom,

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Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, this is a lot. What we know

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Speaker 2: That was the reason. Yeah, called the fact that it

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean that was creepy anyway, but.

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Speaker 2: So where did your mom come into play here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's weird.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. So at the wedding, he said he was surprised

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Speaker 6: Even my mom's dating, she's on the apps. Whatever. I

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Speaker 6: laughed about it, and he texted me that photo. Whatever.

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Speaker 6: But after that, my mom matched with him on one

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Really, your mom tells your matches?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean my mom and I are fairly close,

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Speaker 6: and she showed me who she matched with.

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Speaker 1: Are you thinking that he went and like matched with

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Speaker 2: I don't know that it matters, probably to her.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't care how it happened. It's just the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well we don't know everything about how stuff

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He may not even know, yeah, because.

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Speaker 1: He didn't mention anything like this when we talked to him.

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Speaker 1: But he is on the other line right now waiting

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Speaker 4: Zoe.

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Speaker 3: What why?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: That's how the segment works, Steven, are you there.

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Speaker 3: This is awkward. Sorry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, did you know that you had matched with

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I told you guys, I was like back on the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you said, yeah, you didn't say you met with

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Speaker 1: her family. You didn't say you went just one generation up.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so why's your mom got that young of a

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Speaker 5: She let job for the competition mom live.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you two need to talk about this clearly, dude, what.

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Speaker 6: Is actually wrong with you? Like you're gonna you're gonna

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Speaker 6: you're trying to figure out what's wrong. But clearly what's

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Speaker 6: wrong is you're trying to get with my mother after

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Speaker 4: We didn't know you were responding to me. You're being

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for good reason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: The first straw was you sending me that creepy picture anyway,

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Speaker 6: so obviously I was going to be stand offish. And

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Speaker 6: then my mom showed me her dating app with you

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Speaker 2: Wait, have you been talking to her mother and.

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Speaker 3: We changed the messages?

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Speaker 1: Okay, did you send is a date going to happen

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Speaker 1: between you and Zoe's mom? Is that on the books.

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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't want to ruin things with Zoe and I.

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Speaker 1: Oh when he was prioritizing you Zoe?

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Speaker 2: Is you send the mom the same picture you sent Zoe.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to make that the stick again.

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Speaker 1: No way, okay, learning Okay, Stephen.

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Speaker 6: I even showed her the picture that you sent her

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Speaker 6: to me and she still isn't you?

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Speaker 3: So you guys can just go, she said, she's still

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Speaker 3: into me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you go enjoy yourself.

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Speaker 1: Oh guys, we did it.

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Speaker 2: We f have a soul. May God, so weird.

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Speaker 1: So you you're saying you ship the relationship with your

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Speaker 6: Mean, I don't know what else I can do. I

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Speaker 6: can't just tell my mom who she can and can't date.

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Speaker 6: So like, how am I supposed to talk to her

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Speaker 6: about that.

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Speaker 2: At this point? A double date or I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going in default to the love expert

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Speaker 2: I mean it's I don't.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't know perfect great ideas?

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Speaker 2: Okay, ze dinner with either of them?

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Speaker 1: Well she probably should because soon Stephen could be your stepdad.

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Speaker 1: I have to be around a Thanksgiving case.

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Speaker 2: You need to set bout to your mom if you

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Speaker 2: got the same age ring.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we would normally offer to send Steven out

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Speaker 1: with Zoe, but I guess Stephen will offer to send

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Speaker 2: First So insulting. I am sorry, Zoe.

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Speaker 1: Why is that insulting?

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Speaker 6: Because that'd be greatat.

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Speaker 1: Zoey's already turned him down. He's a free agent. He

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Speaker 1: can date whoever he wants. Zoe, will you ask your

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Speaker 3: Please?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: No, forget all you guys. I'm sorry, this can't get anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, darn Actually I'm actually worried that it can.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Is your grandma still alive? Because you never know? Yesrooking

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey in the morning. Wow, who knew fifty bucks on

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Speaker 1: a soulmate's psychic picture could work not once, but twice?

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Speaker 1: Talk about value getting your money's worse.

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Speaker 2: I did not even think about that. It's actually twenty

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Speaker 2: f bucks per person at this point. That's great. You

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Speaker 2: could call it a family deal, really could if.

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Speaker 1: You think about it. Zoe was just the bread crumb

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Speaker 1: that led Steven to his eventual destiny.

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Speaker 2: The psychic Big Families, so that this can happen.

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Speaker 1: Per I mean, what if I know we're all skeptical,

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Speaker 1: but what if they really are meant to be? Would

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Speaker 1: that Second Date update update be the most anticipated one

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Speaker 5: Have you guys not been following this the Miley Cyrus

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Speaker 5: family drama right now? Oh my god, her mom Tish

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Speaker 5: got married to a guy that her younger sister was dating.

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Speaker 5: The whole thing is a hot mess. Those two aren't talking.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't end well. I'm just telling you.

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