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Speaker 1: to football. The Bengals made changes to their coaching staff

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Speaker 1: on Monday, parting ways with defensive coordinator lou Ana Romo,

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Speaker 1: defensive line coach Marion Hobby, linebackers coach James Betcher, and

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Speaker 1: offensive line coach Frank Pollock. As Zach Taylor says, the

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Speaker 1: decision was his and his alone.

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Speaker 2: Those were extremely hard moves for me to make. Those

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Speaker 2: been through really high exciting times with, and do not

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Speaker 2: take those decisions slightly. And I appreciate all that those

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Speaker 2: They worked hard every single day and those were not

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Speaker 2: I've been through a lot with all these guys, you know,

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Speaker 2: and they work their tails off. They're part of really

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Speaker 1: Two years ago, Bengals fans breathed a huge sigh of

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Speaker 1: relief when lou Anaromo didn't land a head coaching job.

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Speaker 1: His ability to confuse the NFL's best quarterbacks was a

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Speaker 1: major reason why the Bengals advanced to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: the defense has struggled since finishing twenty fifth in points

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Speaker 1: year at number twenty seven this year. It certainly wasn't

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Speaker 2: Just felt like we needed a change and again, did

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Speaker 2: Lusman doing this for six years here and the success

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Speaker 1: Similarly, Frank Pollack helped the Bengals get to a Super

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Speaker 3: Frank Pollack did so much for me in my career,

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Speaker 3: But Frank had a very large impact on me, man

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Speaker 4: What was your reaction then you found out?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's sad man, you know, just because it's

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Speaker 5: You know, it's sad. It is sad man.

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Speaker 6: Like I said, I truly truly, like I said, had

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Speaker 6: Man, just see, he's gone man my short time that

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Speaker 1: Best going into the season. Many of us said, if

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Speaker 2: You know, we're all disappointed with the overall toutality of

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Speaker 2: because there's a lot of positives there with the way

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Speaker 1: Soon, attention will turn to contract negotiations as the Bengals

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Speaker 1: look to sign Jamar Chase to an extension, reward Trey

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Speaker 2: But there's certainly a process we're gonna have to undergo

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Speaker 2: whatever those decisions are, and that's a process will start now,

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Speaker 2: you know, through the month of January and February and

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Speaker 1: Ted Karras and his reaction to the firing of Frank Pollock.

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Speaker 7: You know, I think that's always sad on bloody Monday

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Speaker 5: Great man.

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Speaker 4: We called him later. I haven't talked to him yet.

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised? Did you think because the team's record

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Speaker 7: I've never you know, the surprised emotion is not something

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Speaker 7: what a great job rallying this team did backs against

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Speaker 4: Will we you know, control the week?

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Speaker 5: In control?

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Speaker 7: And I didn't think the Chiefs would quite lay down

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Speaker 1: How long did you stick with Chiefs Broncos before you said, ah,

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Speaker 7: When they switched it off on the broadcast, I mean

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Speaker 1: We spent so much time prior to this season talking

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Speaker 1: Some changes were made. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, it didn't

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Speaker 7: I think we can think about that as spring approaches.

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Speaker 7: You know, never want to put ourselves in an own

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Speaker 7: three years in a row, so I'm sure the staff

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Speaker 7: we'll keep an eye out for that. But nothing nothing

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Speaker 1: After the Dallas game, Joe surprised many of us by

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Speaker 3: Early or is that a man? I think it's more

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Speaker 3: The mindset, the fire that's lit underneath your ass, and

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Speaker 3: I think most importantly is just the mindset, man, understanding

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Speaker 1: of the Bengals. One of the biggest positives this season

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Speaker 4: For sure?

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Speaker 9: I've always had the confidence in myself that you know,

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Speaker 1: You also feel like you established yourself as a core piece.

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Speaker 10: Do I want to come back?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely. I loved it. It was It was incredible.

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Speaker 1: the perfect fit for this offense. How about the flip

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Speaker 1: side of that, How has this offense been good for you?

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Speaker 10: It's been.

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Speaker 11: It's been good because I've been utilized in so many

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Speaker 11: different ways. Like you'll see where Okay, hey, we're gonna

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Speaker 11: splitch you out and if we get a safety out there,

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Speaker 11: match it up, like my first play of the game,

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Speaker 11: but the second play of the game the other night

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Speaker 11: against Pittsburgh, like, all right, it's a safety.

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Speaker 10: It's we got Mike, Like we like this matchup, We're

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Speaker 10: gonna go to you it man, coverage.

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Speaker 11: Last week, the first play overtime, we ran the same play,

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Speaker 11: but I just ran like a I ran like a

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Speaker 11: quick conversion versus press coverage, and we went back shoulder.

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Speaker 11: We knew that, hey, we're probably gonna get man coverage again,

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Speaker 11: he's gonna get pressed. He's gonna be thinking back shoulder,

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Speaker 11: so get him a run and then come back down

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Speaker 11: your stem. Like it's incredible the way that like our

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Speaker 11: coaches think and like the next level thinking for them

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Speaker 11: to be like, Okay, well we did that last week.

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Speaker 10: They watched that. Okay, now we're gonna come back and

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Speaker 10: do this, and.

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Speaker 11: There you go, like some points in the game and

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Speaker 11: some points and then the year, Like it is that easy.

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Speaker 11: And like some of our basic plays is like double

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Speaker 11: slants and a slant to the backside and a flat

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Speaker 11: route and it's like it's the biggest play of the game.

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Speaker 11: And like we just run our most basic offense that

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Speaker 11: we installed day one OTAs because like we have a

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Speaker 11: great quarterback who processes really quickly, and we have great

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Speaker 11: receivers that win.

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Speaker 1: What's the thought process for you on Okay, I'm at

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Speaker 1: this stage of my career, there might not be a

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Speaker 1: ton of contracts left. I'd like to make a lot

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Speaker 1: of money and all right, this offense fits me, they

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Speaker 1: might be able to win a Super Bowl title. Where's

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Speaker 1: that balance for you?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, three years or two years ago, came off of

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Speaker 11: my best season career year and got franchise tagged, so

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Speaker 11: that kind of yeah, so that kind of cuts into

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Speaker 11: the contract you think you're gonna sign. It's still you know,

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Speaker 11: you're so grateful for you know, the money you get

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Speaker 11: for that one year, but it's not the multi year

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Speaker 11: deal that you think you're gonna sign. And then we

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Speaker 11: got a new head coach in Miami, wasn't utilized the

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Speaker 11: way that I was.

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Speaker 10: Time to fresh Star Ago. New England played on statistically.

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Speaker 11: The worst offense in the league, so there wasn't a

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Speaker 11: lot of opportunity there. So the market goes down and down.

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Speaker 11: So it's like you have to really look at it

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Speaker 11: from a business standpoint of like, okay, like definitely got

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Speaker 11: to make up some money just based off of how

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Speaker 11: the last couple of years have went. But also you know,

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Speaker 11: you want to take everything into account and you know,

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Speaker 11: be able to go out there and continue to produce

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Speaker 11: the way that I produce this year because that makes

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Speaker 11: it a lot more fun.

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Speaker 1: Kaseiki's sixty five catches were the second most ever by

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Speaker 1: a Bengals tight end. Anne Ross had seventy one in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one. Finally, time to hear from a player

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Speaker 1: who did not have a good year, kicker Evan McPherson.

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Speaker 1: After signing a contract extension during training camp, Moneymack missed

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Speaker 1: six of his twenty two field goal attempts. It was

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Speaker 1: hard to blame him for hooking an overtime game winner

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Speaker 1: versus Baltimore since the snap and hold were botched, but

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Speaker 1: he also missed two fourth quarter kicks for the lead

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Speaker 1: against the Chargers. Had the Bengals won that game, they

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Speaker 1: would have finished with the same record as LA and

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Speaker 1: had the head to head tiebreaker. The Bengals won their

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Speaker 1: final five games, but McPherson missed them with a groin injury.

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Speaker 1: So you could have kicked you think this week if

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Speaker 1: there was another.

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Speaker 4: Game, could have.

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Speaker 12: I'd say I was optimistic about playing in the playoffs.

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Speaker 12: I kind of had my eyes set on it. I

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Speaker 12: was going to test it and see how the body felt.

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Speaker 12: But I was optimistic about it for sure.

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Speaker 1: So what happens from here now in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 1: making sure you're one hundred percent ready to go for

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Speaker 1: next year.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I've talked to a couple of guys that have

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Speaker 12: experienced this injury before and they just say that the

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Speaker 12: biggest thing you got to do is rest and make

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Speaker 12: sure that everything reconnects itself back to one hundred percent

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Speaker 12: and then kind of go from there. So it's just

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Speaker 12: kind of resting, rehab and making sure that my body's

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Speaker 12: completely fixed itself.

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Speaker 4: Darren talked about, you know, kind of a long term thing.

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Speaker 5: This is kind of this is Yeah, you've had a couple.

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Speaker 4: Of meg and stuff, yep, you know anything, and he looked.

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Speaker 5: Into that at all about that.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Yeah, I've definitely looked into guys kind of outside

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Speaker 12: facility to kind of lean on and help in that

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Speaker 12: area and just trying to understand why this is happening

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Speaker 12: and kind of ways to fix it or prevent it.

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Speaker 12: And so I'm just looking for the for next season

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Speaker 12: to be in better shape one and to understand the

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Speaker 12: body a little bit more. And I feel like going

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Speaker 12: through this is gonna help me a lot.

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Speaker 4: Being in better shape.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is that just you know, getting a little

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Speaker 1: bit older. It's requires a little more maintenance.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. I don't feel old.

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Speaker 12: You know, I'm only twenty five, so I like to

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Speaker 12: think that my body can handle anything, but obviously it can't,

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Speaker 12: and so I'm definitely gonna have to figure out kind

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Speaker 12: of ways to protect my body from injury, because I mean,

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Speaker 12: it's happened three out of the four years, and this

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Speaker 12: year was the worst. So I just got to figure

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Speaker 12: out a consistent way. Because there's guys in the NFL

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Speaker 12: that have gone through kind of similar injuries but have

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Speaker 12: played really long careers. So I'm kind of leaning on

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Speaker 12: those guys and getting their advice on everything.

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Speaker 1: What's your overall description.

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Speaker 4: For this season.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean this season was definitely interesting, and that's

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Speaker 12: kind of what I talked about my end of year meetings.

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Speaker 12: Just it was disappointing for me personally. I feel like

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Speaker 12: I definitely didn't put my best foot forward this year.

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Speaker 12: I've had a good feeling going into it offseason, preseason,

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Speaker 12: and even the first couple of games, I felt like

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Speaker 12: I was in a really good spot. But for whatever reason,

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Speaker 12: everything just kind of went downhill during the games, and

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Speaker 12: with the injury and everything, I wasn't able to I

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Speaker 12: guess prove that I've digg myself out of it, so

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Speaker 12: you know, I'm really excited about next year and just

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Speaker 12: getting back at it.

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Speaker 1: Fortunately for the Bengals, Cade York did a solid job

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Speaker 1: in the final five games, making nine of eleven field

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Speaker 1: goal tries, including a fifty nine yarder to tie money

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