1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome. It's the program that keeps you 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: in touch with your Houston Texans. That would be called 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. Like you heard in the introduction, I'm 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermere with you in the Hyunday Texans Radio studio 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: with John Harris. As we are across the hall from 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: the ever changing Houston Texans locker Room and training room 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: part of the Sports Performance Center. Are they gonna call 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: it the Sports Performance Locker Room? I don't know, but 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: they'll change and rebrand a lot of stuff around here, Johnny, 10 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting. I'm thinking that we're gonna have 11 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: to do a little video tour for the peeps when 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: they get all this stuff reorganized, because it's under construction 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah. We obviously roder here on Friday afternoon, 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: came back in on Monday morning and the entrance to 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: the locker room had moved like fifteen feet to the left. Yeah, 16 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: it was like, wait a second, we'd seen the destruction 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: of certain concrete walls, but then all of a sudden 18 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: would like wait a second, that's like the entrance to 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: the locker room is now fifteen feet to the left. 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: So taking a little bit away from the locker room, 21 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: adding a little bit more of the training room, and 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: there's more going on. I'm trying to think, Mark, what 23 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: hasn't been messed with? Yeah, at some point, I mean 24 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: I think about when I when I got into the 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: I got in building at twenty fourteen, got full time 26 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: at twenty fifteen. When I just think about this building 27 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: in general, from twenty fifteen, every summer there's been up 28 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: on the hundred level, the construction that they've had, changing 29 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: the various concessionary booths, concession booths and all the different 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: things that they've been doing. And now all this that's 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: been going on the service level since when. I mean 32 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: it first started with the Sports Performance Center, the weight 33 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: room and in there, and then the cafeteria is under construction, 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: the locker room at training rooms or under construction. There 35 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: a lot going on. And again I said this the 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: other night too, it's all with the thought that you're 37 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: giving your organization from Bob mcnarroon down, You're giving the 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: organization the best chance of win a championship. And that's 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: what it's all about. Yeah, they want to well, the 40 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: training room needed to be bigger, yea. You know then 41 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: obviously last year. With seventy eight players on a fifty 42 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: three man roster, you need a lot more room. But 43 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: it's not just because of that. They just want it 44 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: to be bigger, roomy, or training techniques change over time. 45 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: When this place was constructed, it was state of the art, 46 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: and they want to keep it state of the art, 47 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: so they continue to do things like this. The other 48 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: thing I notice is this, when you have enough people 49 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: working on a construction project, it gets done fast. Yeah. 50 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: I mean they are flying through this thing and knocking 51 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: down cinder block walls. This is not like drywall cinder 52 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: block walls and re upping cinder block walls and painting 53 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: and doing whatever else. And doorways like you say. And 54 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: then our office is our whole department, broadcast digital medium. 55 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: We're all going to be together upstairs. The football coaches 56 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: are all moving to another area. Scouting is changing. It's 57 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: all too and now this is stuff people never see, 58 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: but it's interesting to us. It affects our life here. 59 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: And the cafeteria is closed for the month, but I 60 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: still see guys working out though. Yesterday I'm walking in 61 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: and I saw a bunch of guys going out to 62 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: the field working out, doing their thing, and you know 63 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: they're unsupervised if you will, But you know, these guys 64 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: get together and do their thing. They want to work out, 65 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: they want to be part of something that's going to 66 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: be very special in twenty eighteen. So we'll keep you updated. 67 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: And I would love to do a little video tour 68 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: while we're all done with this. We definitely do the 69 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: video tour. Yeah, I wish we would have done it 70 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: before and after, just because people look at and go, well, 71 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: there's a locker room, there's a trading room, and you're like, yeah, 72 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: no big deal, but people, it's a huge deal. Fifteen 73 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: feet of concrete walls just got moved. It's a good point. 74 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: And I think people who have been in the building 75 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: there used to be an event called Texans All Access. 76 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: Right there used to be an event like that, and 77 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: they haven't done it in like five six years, I 78 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: think since the lockout, really, but a lot of season 79 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: ticket members have been through this part of the building 80 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: before various tours and Texans Lucks members have been through 81 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: the building. By the way, Texans Lucks go to Houston 82 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: Texas dot Com gets more information on that, so some 83 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: of them have seen it before. But there's gonna be 84 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: a whole rebrand down here for the team. It's gonna 85 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: be really exciting and they're gonna get back big changes 86 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: in the building, totally energized. Then off to the Greenbrier. 87 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: They'll be back for like a day, then off to 88 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: the Greenbriar for a couple of weeks, but then back here. 89 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: Did you see the news what about the Greenbriar? Oh, 90 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: Greenbriar was in the news gambling? Yes, yeah, I said, 91 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: you know where I saw this with Fan Duel. I 92 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: think it was Fan FanDuel, right, but I saw Florio. Actually, 93 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: Tony CURRIEDI the voice of the West Virginia Mountaineers Syracuse guy, 94 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: go figure, really wonderful guy. In fact, he helped me 95 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: out last year. He introduced me to a couple of 96 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: guys that helped me out Barrow to bike from one 97 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 1: of them. We got our intern from another one of them. 98 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: Tony's really obviously is mister West Virginia, but so is 99 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: Mike Florio. He's from West Virginia. I think the you know, 100 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: near Pittsburgh part and wheeling and around there or whatever. 101 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: So he was on Tony's show and they announced this. 102 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: I think it was yesterday, right, because that's where I 103 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: saw us on Football Talk that the Greenbriar has has 104 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: made this commitment with I believe it was fan duel, 105 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: which we know fan do a couple of years ago. 106 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: Was massive. I can imagine in the fan duel or 107 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: Draft Kings offices when the the announcement was made of 108 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: sports gambling, that repeal of that law, they I imagine 109 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: they were like on life support in some sense. Yeah, 110 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they're like, we're back. Rides 111 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: me the trading Spain or them, We're back, were coming 112 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: to America. We're back Mortimer and that's all I could 113 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: think about. But yeah, that was pretty you know, that's 114 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: the That's the one thing about the Green Briers I had. 115 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: I had a blast doing it. I was not very successful. 116 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: Went to the CAA yeah, uh yeah, I mean my 117 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: last time. My last time was was really fun because 118 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: it was I think we were a couple of days 119 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: from leaving. I think it was a couple of days 120 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: from leaving bank account. So no, I hadn't quite empty 121 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: the bank account, but we went down there. It was 122 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: it was me u deepie. Uh. I think Jesse was 123 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: with us. I think it was three of us, and 124 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: so we went down there and a bunch of players, 125 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: coaches all down in the day off down there. Yeah, 126 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: they're all in there. And so I was in the table, 127 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: bunch of players and coaches in there and just playing. 128 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: It was just a black sport aloud even for you know, 129 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: for for the Texans members. Oh no, absolutely. And now 130 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: the Greenbrier they at least can do the fan duel stuff, 131 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: I guess, so, man, I'll see other I don't know 132 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: if I don't know if they can do that. They 133 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: don't be able to do it, but the people at 134 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: the Greenbrier will be able to do it. It's interesting, 135 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: I mean, because you have an actual casine, you'll have 136 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: an NFL team playing or participating in activity, not playing games, 137 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: but there where there is some gaming going on. But 138 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: it's all approved of. The league knows this. This is 139 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: hardly a surprise to anybody. Yes, the league is well aware. 140 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: All right. Last night, James Harden wins MVP and this 141 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: is fore gone conclusion. Congratulations to him, outstanding year. And 142 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: it got me thinking about MVPs because also this week, 143 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: Tom Brady was announced as the number one player in 144 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: the NFL in the NFL Top one, right, shocker shocker there, 145 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: and Brady was the MVP. And I went back and 146 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: I was thinking about MVPs because you know, we always 147 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: debate like what constitutes most Valuable Player of the league. 148 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: Is that the guy who's more important to his team 149 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: than anybody else? Is it the guy who's more important 150 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: to the league than anybody else? I mean, how do 151 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: you really weigh all this stuff out? And you look 152 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: at NFL MVPs and the debate in any league, baseball, basketball, football, 153 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: it's all hockey. It's always gonna be hotly contested because 154 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: you just don't know, you know, the criteria, it's somewhat defined, 155 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: but you can bend whatever rules in your favor and 156 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: your arguments favor. Brady was the MVP in twenty seventeen. 157 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 1: Do you even remember? This? Is, by the way, side 158 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: note here this supports my argument that the Heisman Trophy 159 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: is the greatest trophy individual honor to win in sports, 160 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: individual in a team sport. If you're going to get 161 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: an individual honor, this is the one to get because 162 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: it's with you your whole life and people remember because 163 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: do you remember the twenty sixteen NFL MVP A lot 164 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: of people will be thinking right now, like I twenty sixteen, 165 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, it was Matt brocos Wilder, Oh, very good, 166 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: it was Matt Ryan. So ye remember I remember that. 167 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: I remember stuff like the year before was Cam Newton, 168 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: the year before that was Aaron Rodgers. Now do we 169 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: get kind of a kind of all play quarterback NBA 170 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: vibe in the in the nineties or even now, like 171 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: it could be lebron every year in the nineties, it 172 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: could have been Jordan every year. Do we get sort 173 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: of that? All right, we know it's Brady, but let's 174 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: give it to somebody else kind of feeling or noted. 175 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that, because Brady won it this 176 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: past season and had not won it since twenty ten. 177 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: Twenty ten. He was outstanding. He was like forty five 178 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: and two. Yeah, he was incredible in twenty ten, and 179 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: then they got bumped off by the by the Jets. 180 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: But it's Tom Brady. How how valuable? Now? Peyton Manning 181 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: won it in twenty thirteen with the Broncos and that 182 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: was the year he went nuts touchdown pass record and 183 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: everything and lit us up here. And during the two 184 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: and fourteen Texas season and it was awful. I mean, 185 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: he didn't win the Super Bowl that year, but he 186 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: was on fire. Right, the Broncos don't get to the 187 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. No, you're right. I mean I've always thought 188 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: about that with you know, in the final the Final 189 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: four did it best? I think going back to college 190 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: for a second, they didn't call it an MVP. They 191 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: called it a MOP Most outstanding player and where you 192 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: could go with stats, and there's a lot of different 193 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: ways you can look at that because when you say 194 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: most valuable, when you look at the word valuable, the 195 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: Cavaliers are in eighteen and sixty fourteen without Lebron James. 196 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: Now would the Rockets have won sixty five games without James? No? No, 197 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: but they make the playoffs with the healthy Chris Paul 198 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: and the rest of the West. Exactly, it's forty plus 199 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: maybe high forties or something like that. They're not as 200 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: good obviously, But to me, it's almost like most outstanding player, 201 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: because when it comes to value players like Tom Brady 202 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: Lebron James, you could argue, if if you just went criteria, 203 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: which players most valuable to his team, then yeah, you 204 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: gotta make a case, because what are the Patriots l 205 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: tom Brady. Now we say that, and yet they went 206 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: three and one without him the first four games of 207 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. They went eleven and five without him in 208 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: two thousand and when need to tears ACL two thousand 209 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: and eight, two nine, two thousand and eight two eight, 210 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: because because those seven was the undefeated year, eighty tears 211 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: is ACL, right, and eight was the year that Tony 212 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: Sparano won the AFC East with the Dolphins, right. And 213 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: so the Patriots have been good without Tom Brady, Yeah, 214 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: but would they be consistently good without him? I mean, yeah, 215 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: that was you know, two thousand and eight, thousand and 216 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: one off they were three and one, you know, they 217 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: lost the Bills, who knows, but but the Packers and 218 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, you know, Aaron Rodgers. You have a multi 219 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: MVP winner right there. Yeah, but look at the Packers 220 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: last year when he was out of that lineup. Terrible. 221 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: They they were what they were an eight and eight 222 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: team at best. They brought him back that last game, Yeah, 223 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: they brought him back for that week fifteen game against 224 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: the Panthers to have a shout at the playoffs. They 225 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: don't win that because the Panthers outscore them. In a 226 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: game the defense didn't play well, and then they put 227 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers on I R. For the rest of the year. 228 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: So the point being that we've seen it with the Packers. 229 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: With Rogers, you know, he's been out a little bit more. 230 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: The MVP to League might have been right here in 231 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: this building last year. To be honest with you, number four, 232 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: because with this team without number four, there was a 233 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: considerable drop off job. Yeah, very much. So it was 234 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: funny because right before he got hurt, there was starting 235 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: starting to perculate a little bit. Puizzed Watson in the MS. 236 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: That's a great what is you know, I know we've 237 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: done what if shows? But if he stays healthy. Look, 238 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: the defense wasn't playing great against Seattle in New England, 239 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: but a lot of people have trouble with those squads. Yeah, 240 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: I think they would have. And look, let's say you 241 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: get every other injury you got, but you kept him, 242 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: that would have been really interesting. I think that you 243 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: give a much better game. I mean, think about how 244 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: many more wins you get. At least five I think, yeah, 245 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: get at least five more wins in those closed games. 246 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: We've been over this part of it before, and that 247 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: gets you in because you beat Tennessee up there, and 248 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: then you go to Kansas City. They slid it at 249 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: nine and seven. Right, then you go to Kansas City 250 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: and you know, try your luck against the Chiefs. At 251 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: that point, why not you got you got into dance 252 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: with the rookie quarterback and all the guys hurt that 253 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: you had hurt. Yeah, it's a great way I've put 254 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: by my point being, it's all in how people define 255 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: the word valuable. If you're defining it in the proper way, 256 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: in the most pristine, proper way of valuable. Lebron James 257 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: is the most valuable player in the league. There's no 258 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: There's no question, and he should be every year. I 259 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: don't want to take away from what James did, but 260 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: James was the most outstanding player in twenty eighteen. He 261 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: was the most outstanding player. You're all right with Brady 262 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: winning it in the NFL last year, Yeah, Rob In 263 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: the year before, yeah, I mean, I think Matt was was. 264 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: Matt got the Falcons to a level that they were 265 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: so outstanding offensively, they were great. I mean it really 266 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: was a result of Matt Ryan Uh doing what he 267 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: was able to do when they did the top one hundred. 268 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: I think they I want to say, it may have 269 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: put who they in front of Matt, so Matt, it's 270 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: not as if Matt didn't have help. But look, you're 271 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: not You're not gonna win an MVP if you don't 272 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: have help. I mean, James obviously had help with Chris Paul. 273 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's had help over the years with Gronk Graham 274 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: at DOLO or the years he had Welker and Moss, 275 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: He's at he's at help. Neither have been years where 276 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: he didn't have help, and he had winning Super Bowls 277 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: that might have been when he was most valuable to them. 278 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: So it's it's always It just makes for an interesting 279 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: argument to me. But I have always looked at it 280 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: as a MOP, not an MVP. I look at as 281 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: a MOP. Who's the most outstanding, most outstanding player. All Right, 282 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: we have a few things to get to tonight and 283 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: buy a few I mean a lot, including but not 284 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: limited to this, Greg Rosenthal's article last week about what 285 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: teams are missing what's the biggest weakness on every team 286 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: in the AFC, And you probably wait in on that. 287 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: I know some of the Sports Radio six ten guys have, 288 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: but I found what he said about the Texans really interesting, 289 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: if not entertaining, So we'll discuss that and also quarterbacks 290 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: going into year two, how do they do? And Bill 291 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: Polian lights up a certain signal caller who was a 292 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: very high draft pick. We'll talk about all of that 293 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: and more as Texans All Access continues. Mark Vandermayer, John 294 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: Harris keeping your accoun but Texans All Access great to 295 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: have you with us for the ride, and what a 296 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: ride it's gonna be. Next week, fourth of July week, 297 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: many of you taking the entire week off. Good for you. 298 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: I might as well, and by might, I mean highly 299 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: likely that I do. And on the radio program here 300 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: all next week it's the Summer celebration as John Harris 301 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: will be your MC, but we will play some of 302 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: the very best stuff tweak it make it really fun 303 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: to listen to. Not that it wasn't to begin with, 304 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be good, Johnny Right next year, Yeah, 305 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: no doubt. I'm we got a lot of stuff planned. 306 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: I got a Monday evening Quarterback Night, I've got a Billow, 307 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: Brian Knight, and of course July fourth, the most American 308 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: of all American dates. We're gonna have our All American 309 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: Dude Draft. All American Dude Draft. That was fun. I 310 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: remember the time. It's perfect for the fourth for the 311 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: July and also that night we'll hear from our own 312 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: Captain America, Brian Peters, who was fantastic. He's a great 313 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: radio kind of is Captain. He's big into the eating healthy. 314 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: You know they all are, but he takes it to 315 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: another level. Who different level? All right, So this article 316 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: on NFL dot com by Greg Rosenthal AFC weak Spots 317 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: and he goes over all the teams in their weakest spot. 318 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: And I meant to look this up last week. I 319 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: think that's when it was released, and I didn't, So 320 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm just pulling this out today. But bear with me 321 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: because this is fun. So, for instance, he talks about 322 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: the Broncos, well, their offensive line needs work. He talks 323 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: about the Chiefs their secondary needs work. Miami Dolphins, they 324 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: could be better at defensive tackle. What does he say 325 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: about the Texans. I know what everybody's thinking right now. Oh, 326 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: he's probably saying offensive line. No, he says the football gods. 327 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: I love this. The football gods are the big problem 328 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: with the Texans. And finally somebody understands my plight that 329 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: the football gods have frowned upon us and they need 330 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: to smile upon us. This all right, I'm getting a 331 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: little over the top with this, but you get the 332 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: drift here. He's talking about luck that they've had horrible luck. 333 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: It is horrible luck when you have seventy eight players 334 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: to occupy a fifty three man roster over the course 335 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: of the season and NFL record the kind of record 336 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: you never want to set. That is horrible luck. And 337 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: when you lose Watson wide waiting man, don't make me 338 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: go to the whole list awful luck. But he says this, 339 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: this is a team with almost limitless potential if the 340 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: injury luck finally goes its way this season. And I 341 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: think just about everybody agrees with that assessment. I mean 342 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: almost limitless potential. You can't say unlimited whatever, but it's 343 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: you get the feeling that there's so much out there 344 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans if they can just have the 345 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: kind of year I'm not even saying the kind of 346 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: year Jacksonville had health wise, give me eighty percent of that, 347 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: and among that eighty, give me number four healthy the 348 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: entire season, Please, no doubt we have a schedule photo 349 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 1: that's got the schedule for us. I don't know if 350 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: it went outside the building or not, but we have 351 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: it in our offices and it has on that photo 352 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: it has what merciless Hopkins, Clowney, Fuller, Watson. That's six. 353 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: And I was in the office with when they brought 354 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: it around and I kind of looked at it. It's great. 355 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: I love the graphics. I mean everything that I mean, uh, Sierra, 356 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: who does all our graphics. Incredible, It's really cool. But 357 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: I was looking at it and I went, those are 358 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: six pretty important dudes. I turned to Jesse, was in 359 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: the office. Our social media grew and I said, chess. 360 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: And I showed it to him and I said, these 361 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: six guys play fourteen games or more. What's our record? 362 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: And his reaction was like eleven and five at worst? 363 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: And I mean, that's that's that's a stretch. But I 364 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: think that feel good about that that. I mean, those 365 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: guys I just mentioned essentially your first round draft picks, 366 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: and Kevin was the only one that was not part 367 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: of that part of six, but they were your first 368 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: round draft picks, starting with Watt in twenty eleven. Watt Merciless, Hopkins, Clowney, 369 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: Fuller and Watson. Those six guys play fourteen games or more. 370 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: Where are you? What's your record? And he was he 371 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: was like eleven and five. And that's when I when 372 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: I think about when I think about it from that standpoint, 373 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: those guys all staying healthy because I think about Jacksonville 374 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 1: last year. That's the one. You just brought it up. 375 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: Jacksonville healthy last year, especially defensively. Now, they did miss 376 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: Fournette for a few games. I think they missed Cam 377 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: Robinson for a game, but defensively they lost Telvin Smith. 378 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: I think for two games. That was it. That was it. 379 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: Think about this entire defense staying healthy every game except 380 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: for one player. Say uh, say Bernardrick McKinney misses two games, 381 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: that's it, that's it. That's the only thing you miss 382 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: all year long. I mean, it's it's scared. It's almost 383 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: where you can be. And you get the feeling that, 384 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: as far as Jacksonville is concerned, that could catch up 385 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: with them at some point. I think so too. Football 386 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: gods have that, the football gods that smited them for 387 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: so many years seemingly kind of turned their blind eye 388 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: to them and let them be last year and they 389 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: should have gone to the Super Bowl. They should have 390 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: won that game against New England. Didn't, And had they 391 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: gone to the super Bowl, I think it would have 392 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: been a tremendous matchup with that defense going against the 393 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: Eagles offense, it would have been It would have been tremendous. 394 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: But the football gods are not gonna They're not gonna 395 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: do that anymore. They're not now. My hope is that 396 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: they're not. They're not gonna have the type of year 397 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: that that we had that everybody gets injured. I want 398 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: I want the Texans to be able to have that opponent, 399 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: that one opponent like Week seven. I want to live 400 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: for Week seven, that's the Jaguars. I want to live 401 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: for that Jacksonville at Jacksonville. Yeah, that's at Jacksonville. I 402 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 1: want to live for that game. I want to be 403 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: five and one going into that game, and I want 404 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: them to be five and one and it's a massive game, 405 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: and it's just a massive game. Jacksonville I want because 406 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: I just don't. I mean, I know, Tennessee's the natural 407 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: rivalry for for a number of reasons, and especially with 408 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: Rabel Golding, Jacksonville has been the biggest rivalry, right, But 409 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: as far as like the most competitive, I should say, right, 410 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: and that's that's the one, because of how good that 411 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: team can be defensively, how much trash they talk, the 412 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: connection that these players have had in college, Hopkins facing 413 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: Ramsey in college and in Ramsey going it's Watson in college. 414 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: And the fact that Shaun and Jayalen Ramsey are close, 415 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: that Boyer's there, Colvin's here there, and Doug Marone and 416 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien there. It's just it's a great point. You know. 417 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: It's always been like that too. I mean when you 418 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: go to the early days, we always knew that Tennessee 419 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: was the natural rival because of the Oilers association, of course, 420 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: but with Jacksonville right off the bat, he had Seth 421 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: Paine and Gary Walker coming here. He had Baselly net 422 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: working at you had Dob Capers who worked for Tom Coughlin. 423 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: It was his defensive coordinator when they went fourteen and 424 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: two and lost in the AFC Championship game in ninety nine. 425 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: So yet all those connections and it was a beautiful thing. 426 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: And now you still have connections between these two teams. 427 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: So it's been the most hotly contested rivalry in the 428 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: AFC South in terms of record, but at the same 429 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: time heavy on Jacksonville relatively or although you know, you 430 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: gotta give the Texans credit here because in the first 431 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: two years it was two and two. That was the 432 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: first ever road win in two thousand and two, and 433 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: then in two thousand and three Week four. Right here, 434 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: that was David Carr going over the top on fourth 435 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: and one. Yeah, a fourth and goal at the one 436 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: end of the game, no time left. That was really 437 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: a thrilling moment at the time. So early on it 438 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: was kind of even then Jacksonville pulled away, and then 439 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: the Texans really pulled ahead. And now you have the 440 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars sweeping Houston last year two games. I told 441 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: you this many times. I watched America's Game religiously. I 442 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: love that show. It's documentary done on the Super Bowl 443 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: winning team. And they talked to three players or three 444 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: they talked to three people from that team, can be 445 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: a coach, could be players. They even one time with 446 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys because they had won three out of four, 447 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: they had to find different guys, so they talked to 448 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: rich Dalrymple, who was the media pr guy for the Cowboys. 449 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: And I was watching the O eight Steelers and they 450 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: were talking about the matchups with the Ravens and would 451 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: I would guarantee you that if you talk to Steelers fans, 452 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: you talk to the Steelers, you talk to people that 453 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: have been in an organization, and you say, what do 454 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: you remember about oh eight, What do you remember about 455 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: that time frame? I guarantee they would tell you it's 456 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: those games against the Ravens. Yeah, whether you want or 457 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: you lost. Now they ended up winning those games, But 458 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: whether you want or your lost, those are the games 459 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: that you remember. Those are the ones that you want 460 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: to be involved in. Those are the ones they matter. 461 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: And I think the ones against Jacksonville are going to matter. 462 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: And if it comes down to a week seventeen here 463 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: against Jacksonville and both teams are eleven and four and 464 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: the winner gets a bye week and the loser has 465 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: to go to the wildcard host it but still go 466 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: to the wild Card for the whole thing here, I 467 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: mean it's gonna be awesome. It would be. And it's 468 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: a team that talks a lot of trash. They got 469 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: a lot of swag. If you want to call it that, 470 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: I would love I would love for that team to 471 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: be at that level. I would love for the Texans 472 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: to be at that level. And let's go. Let's see 473 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: if your Boardles can beat my Watson and let's go. 474 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: But that's again, both teams have got to stay healthy. 475 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think it does catch up 476 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: the Jackson a little bit, and hopefully the football gods 477 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: are looking on us a little bit more this year 478 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: and we won't have as much and we can match 479 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: up and have some great games with them, because I 480 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: think that's where the great games and this division will 481 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: come are between the Jaguars and the Texans. Well, I 482 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: think the Titans are still gonna be very tough. They're 483 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: gonna be tough. I according to Greg Rosenthal a couple 484 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: of other notes on this column. He wrote last week, 485 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: the Titans have no weaknesses. Now is he just being funny? 486 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: I hope so, Tennessee Titans nothing. This team is perfect. 487 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: Kudos to general manager John Robinson. Super Bowl baby? Are 488 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: you serious? Now? Maybe he's right. I don't know, Marcus Mariota. 489 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're they're incorporating a new offense. The 490 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: offensive line is Jack Conklin one hundred percent healthy and honestly, 491 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: who are their defensive Who are the defensive game changers 492 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: they have? Who would you say, you look at the 493 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: defense and go, okay, I'll give you Durou Casey, case 494 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: you have the board. Who else? Tell me who are 495 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: the It's not a game changing defense. It could be 496 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: a very solid defense. That's the best you're gonna get 497 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 1: with them. That's the best you'll get that defense. They 498 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: were Actually they had some good I remember going over 499 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: to some good statistical years under LeBeau, right, I mean 500 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: reasonably okay considering who they were, because they weren't having 501 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: good records, but they were like they kind of held 502 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: their own yardage wise. They just couldn't make big plays 503 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to make big plays again. They 504 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: imported the Patriots corners with Logan Ryan and Malcolm Butler. 505 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes for them. And I think 506 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: DMPAS is gonna be a good addition for THO. I 507 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: mean whatever, if Rabel was coaching the defense, I would 508 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: not be as high on the Titans as I am. 509 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: With DMPs coaching the defense. I think that was a 510 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: really smart move. Like I've said previously, you know, it's 511 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,719 Speaker 1: funny because when you look at Mariota, if they can 512 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: play a little bit like the Jags, you know, if 513 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: they can get Derek Henry to be great, and he 514 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: can be great, of course, and Dion Lewis to be 515 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: that change of pace kind of guy, make big plays 516 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: in the passing game and make some nice plays in 517 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: the running game. Think about it. If Mariota doesn't have 518 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: to do so much, that's a hell of a quarterback 519 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: to have in that role. Because if you're the Jaguars, 520 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: would you rather have Blake Bortles or Mariota as your quarterback? Well, 521 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: I'd want Mariota, yeah, of course. So now you have 522 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: him in Tennessee and he's still kind of an unknown. 523 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: Is he gonna get better? And by the way, they 524 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: getting better theme is a big one. I want to 525 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: explore that maybe in the next segment if we have 526 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: Tim Will started here. Gotta get better. I always say 527 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: that you got to improve. I know it sounds obvious, 528 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: but it doesn't always happen to these guys. And Mariota 529 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: is a player who really has not improved as much 530 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: as you want to see for such a high draft choice. Yeah, 531 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: no question, And I think the question you know, you 532 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: asked me, would'd rather have Mariota or Bortles? I said, 533 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: Mario A no question. I think part of that is 534 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: because I would use Mariota in the run game a 535 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 1: little bit more than I would Bortles. I just with Bortles, 536 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: you never know. You just never know if you're gonna 537 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: are you gonna, are you gonna crap out? You're gonna 538 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: roll seven? Like what are you gonna do? You just 539 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: have no idea with a guy like Bortles, And to me, 540 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want that my quarterback. But on 541 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: any given day, Blake Bortles can catch fire and light 542 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: you up. I mean obviously did it to the Texans. 543 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: But that's what worries me if I'm Jacksonville is there's 544 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: no consistency there, Like I don't, I have no idea 545 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: if I'm a Jacksonville fan, employee, or player, I don't 546 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: know if play portals. I'm getting the writing articles about 547 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: how he's taking control of the offense like he's in 548 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: year five. He should have been taking care of it, 549 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: taking you know, control of the offense back when he 550 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: was a rookie. And I know it's a different offense 551 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: and get all that they've gone through some offensive coordinators 552 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: and so maybe he's making that jump though, Johnny. Maybe 553 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: he had some throws in the postseason that were no, 554 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 1: no question, there's some throwsy Man into postseason. I mean, 555 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not trying to say he was not 556 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: the reason they lost that game in the Patriots. He 557 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: was not the reason saying something right there. You know, 558 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: usually you lose a game to the Patriots because you 559 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: just can't stop number twelve the MVP. Like we started 560 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: this whole conversation tonight. There you go. But to me, yeah, 561 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: I would rather have Maritor because I know I could 562 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: do more in the run game with him, and I 563 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: do think he's got a higher ceiling than Borders. The 564 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: question becomes, if you take incremental steps to get to 565 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: that ceiling, you're never You're never gonna get there. Hit 566 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: the floor and start over. Here's what's interesting about Mariota. 567 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: Let me give you these numbers. I don't want to 568 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: boggy down with numbers, which means I'm about to boggy 569 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: down with numbers. But just bear with me on this one. 570 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: Just go passing attempts. Passing attempts. The last two years 571 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: are basically dead even four fifty one and four fifty three, 572 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: So he threw the same amount of passes each of 573 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: the last two years. What changed for them? And they 574 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: had a great year. I mean that was our best 575 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: year at a decade, right, What changed for them? For him? Statistically? 576 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: Six more interceptions and thirteen fewer touchdowns. Okay, with the 577 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: same amount of attempts from twenty sixteen to twenty seventeen. Wow, 578 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: six more interceptions and thirteen fewer touchdowns. He was upside 579 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: down of the TD to interception ratio last year. So 580 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: he had a bad year statistic, but they had a 581 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: great year as a team. What was he what was 582 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: he touchdown interception in sixteen? In sixteen he was six, 583 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: he was twenty six and nine, he was on his 584 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: way to whatever, and last year he was thirteen and fifteen. Yep. Wow. Yeah. 585 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: See that's what's interesting about him. You've got to get 586 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: better otherwise you know what's happening, and it's not gonna 587 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: be good. Now he could bounce back. He's done it 588 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: before you know. We'll see how this goes. Is that 589 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: sound familiar? Twenty fifteen Blake Bortles tons of touchdowns, a 590 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: lot of yards sixteen, he couldn't hit the broadside of 591 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: a barn. Comes back in seventeen, he's fixed some of 592 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: those issues, and then maybe that's where he resides. And 593 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: maybe Blake Bortles is just the six or seven, same 594 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: record by the way, twenty sixteen to twenty seventeen, but 595 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: obviously making the postseason doing better. Yeah, and maybe with 596 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: Bortles you get a six or seven, but you know 597 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a six or seven, so you've kind 598 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: of crafted your offense around that fact. Mariota, they keep 599 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: thinking in Tennessee, he's gonna be in an eight or 600 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: a nine consistently. Well, he's not there. He has improved it, 601 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: he hasn't gotten there. He might be able to pull 602 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: it off. You never know, and I never write people 603 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 1: off until you have to, Especially with that athletic ambility. 604 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: There's there's no way you write that often. That that's said, 605 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: that's said. You got a defense here in Houston that's 606 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: got a lot more speed than it had when Mariota's 607 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: drafted twenty fifteen. Other quarterbacks who might not be getting better, 608 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: let's talk about it, Bill Polly and lit somebody up. 609 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: It's coming up here. On Texans all accessful. When you 610 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: last heard our voices, we were talking about Marcus Mariota 611 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: and that he did not improve in twenty seventeen statistically anyway, 612 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: which is kind of important because that does tell you 613 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: a lot of things. But the Titans had a great postseason, 614 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: relatively great, meaning they came from behind to beat Kansas City. 615 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: They went to New England, lost to the Patriots. Good 616 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: for them, Divisional round appearance, first time in a long 617 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: time for that franchise. But we tied it into a 618 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: bigger topic, which is improving as a quarterback. And you 619 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: know a lot of people are watching Deshaun Watson here, 620 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: Well they're watching him no matter what. But let's see 621 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: how much better he can get or can he pick 622 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: up where he left off, which would be just fine, 623 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: thank you. And then they caution on, well what about 624 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 1: second year players? You know, sometimes you have a good 625 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: rookie year like Robert Griffin did, does that translate into 626 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: success in year two? Look? I think that And we've 627 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: talked about this before, Johnny Mark Vandermarin, John Harris with you, 628 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,239 Speaker 1: by the way, we've talked about this before a little bit. 629 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: Twenty twelve RG three twenty touchdown passes, five picks, the 630 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: next year sixteen touchdown passes, twelve picks, and then never 631 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: to be heard from again in the same amount of 632 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: game appearances and everything, because in twenty fourteen is third season, 633 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: only played in nine, started seven and he faded away 634 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: from there. So to me, you know, with Watson's it's 635 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: about health, obviously, but he's still you know, he'll be 636 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: the first to tell you you're constantly evolve and get better. 637 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Jamis Winston. Bill Polian was 638 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: on Sirious NFL Radio and I don't have to clip 639 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: for you, so I apologize about that. But he said 640 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: he's turned into a mediocre quarterback. He has not gotten better. 641 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: He thought he played a little bit better toward the 642 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: end of last year. Pollian did when he evaluates Winston. 643 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Pollyan knows everything, because you know, 644 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: he's been wrong about a few things. He's been wrong 645 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: about a few things in his life. But you know, Winston, 646 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: the proof is there. You know, you just have to 647 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: see more improvement than you've been able to see so far. 648 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: You know, looked very promising coming out of college, but 649 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: he hasn't improved to the degree you need to see 650 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: what's interesting about Jamis. They weren't hard knocks last year, 651 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: and they had one of the episodes I think it's 652 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: started with Jamison followed jamieson. It's dark thirty in the 653 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: morning and he's getting into the facilities, the first one 654 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: in the facility. He's flipping the lights on in the 655 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: weight room. You get the impression that Jamis Winston loves competition. 656 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: He loves football, He lives for it, he eats it, 657 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: he breeds it is everything is everything that drives him. 658 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: But his decision making on the field and off the fields, 659 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: there's something that just goes haywire. And I remember in 660 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: that same episode, they showed that montage of him going 661 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: through all that, him being the first one in the 662 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: locker room, him watching him doing all this, and you 663 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: get the impression of Okay, Jamis is the alpha in 664 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: that room. There's no question like he's the guy. They 665 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: follow his lead. He's gonna lead down the promised Land. 666 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people that thought Tampa Bay 667 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: last year was gonna end up being one of the 668 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: best teams in the NFL. Right, they ended up being 669 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: the worst team in a really tough division with the Saints, Panthers, 670 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: UH and the Buccaneers whom miss Saints. So in three 671 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: of those teams made the playoffs, and the Bucks were 672 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: the one that everybody thought was gonna make the playoffs. 673 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: But in that same episode, Jamis in a preseason game, 674 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: made a throw that was just unspeakable, came over the sidelines, 675 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: and Dirk Cutter is just incredible scene looks I'm like, 676 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: what are you doing now? He's he didn't say it 677 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: quite that nicely, right, but you got the feeling that 678 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: as Cutter's talking to him, Cutter's saying, you you saw this, 679 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: You've done this a thousand times, but then you decide 680 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: to do that, Like, what are you doing? I mean? 681 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: And it's almost as if there's it's almost if Jamis 682 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: Winston is a robot and every so often there's a 683 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: glitch and that glitches and that it's it's weird. You 684 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: look at and go, wait a second, He's got everything 685 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: you want in the NFL quarterback. Now, off the field, 686 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: that's that's a whole different story. But I think it's 687 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: to play on the field, right, and and exactly because 688 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: he goes all back to decision making. But just on 689 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: the field, it just feels like there's just glitch in 690 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: the robot. They're like, why is he making that throw? Yeah, 691 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: but twenty sixteen he was fabulous. He was fabulous in 692 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, and all sudden what happened in twenty eight 693 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: touchdowns eighteen picks, which is no small number. But you'll 694 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: take it if he's throwing twenty eight, I guess. I mean, 695 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: that's not a great ratio, as we all know. It's 696 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: interesting last year nineteen tds for Winston, eleven interceptions, so 697 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: you're saying, wow, you know it's almost two to one, 698 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: and you know, but it's it's not really about that, 699 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: is it. You got to lift your team up, especially 700 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: in year three. I will give him this though, I 701 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: don't think the team's very good. I don't think they 702 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: were very good last year, and I think that that 703 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: played into it. It's not just about him. He's got 704 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: to have a little bit more support than all that. 705 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: Maybe he's just not one of these guys yet anyway, 706 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: maybe he never will be who can really lift up 707 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: the team. I heard some evaluation on Joe Flacco that way. 708 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: You know, the big joke about Flacco like he's not 709 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: a lead or whatever. He isn't He is not elite 710 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: because he cannot lift up the team by himself, which 711 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,959 Speaker 1: is a lot to ask. It doesn't mean you can't 712 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: play in this league, but very few guys can elevate 713 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: the entire team with their play, like Aaron Rodgers, Group Brees, 714 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Ben Wilds Bots. Some people like that. Deshaun 715 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: Watson clearly has that ability. Now you want to see 716 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: him hone it, improve it, stay healthy, but it's a 717 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: tough thing to ask for to have a quarterback. I 718 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: don't even know if Eli Manning. I don't think he's that. 719 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 1: I don't think Eli Manning's that. I think he got 720 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: hot and two postseasons. I think he's very good and 721 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: can be very good. But he's not those other guys 722 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: I just mentioned. It's just in Yeah, if you're a Buccaneers, 723 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: say say you're you and Gene Decker off switch Spots, Jane, 724 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: I know I'm a big teen. He used to listen 725 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: to them on the radio all the time when I 726 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: was living in Jacksonville. Switch Spots. Okay, what are you 727 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: feeling right now about Jameis Winston going to twenty eighteen. 728 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: Just okay, take last year for instance, he threw en 729 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: touchdowns to Sean through nineteen and seven games. That just 730 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: says an aside and shush interceptions. Seven That would make 731 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: me want to throw up. I know. Because Winston was 732 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: the hot come out. I mean, he's number one pick 733 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: in the draft, right, He's hotter than you can be 734 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: coming out of college. Florida State National championship, another playoff appearance, 735 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: I mean a lot like Watson coming out of college, 736 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: a total leader, led his team to the Promised Land. 737 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: Do you trust him? Do you trust no? Because look, 738 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: I got the Uber incident. I got some other things, 739 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: old state incidents, so I hope, and the Uber thing 740 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: was a long time ago, relatively a couple of years ago, right, yeah, sixteen. 741 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 1: He's paying the price now. But the thing is, I 742 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: just want to see if I'm a Buccaneers announcer, if 743 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: I'm mister buccaneer, I just want to see him on 744 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: the field, and I want to see some support because I, 745 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: like I said, I just don't think he's one of 746 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: these guys who's gonna lift the team up by himself. No, 747 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think, well that's said. They 748 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 1: drafted a receiver in Chris Godwin third round from State. 749 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: They gave him to Sean Jackson free agency. He's had 750 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: Mike Evans from the day he walked in that joint, 751 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: so he's got some receiver types to throw to. Now, 752 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: what he hasn't had as a great running game. He 753 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: has not had a consistent running threat. Doug Martin was 754 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: in the lineup, and then he was out with suspensions 755 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: and injuries. Then you had Quiz Rodgers, and Quiz is 756 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: more a complimentary guy than he is a number one guy, 757 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: and I'd love Quiz, but that's that's what he is. 758 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: So they really haven't had a great running game, and 759 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: the offensive line has been has been shaky, even though 760 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: they've made some investments in that offensive line over the years. 761 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: To me, with Jamis, I don't know that. I don't 762 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: know that I trust. I don't know that I trust 763 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: his decision making on the field off the field. And 764 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: I hate saying that because I think from a competitive spirit, 765 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing I wanted my quarterback, like 766 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: I want his competitive spirit, but I just feel like 767 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: his decision making, like you think about that uber instant 768 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: who's with him on that uber instant. Well, it's Ronald 769 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: Darby who'd gotten in some trouble at for a State 770 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: of Think in March part because of that Jamis incident. 771 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: And the other guy that was there was a player 772 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: at Vanderbilt that was brought up on rape charges at Vanderbilt. 773 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: Those are the three guys that were in the uber, 774 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 1: in the car, in the company you keep and exactly. 775 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: And so it's just if I'm like I said, if 776 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,919 Speaker 1: if I'm the Buck's equivalent, I'm nervous. I'm nervous every day. 777 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm not about Deshaun Watson is nervous, right, 778 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm nervous about him going on the field and getting 779 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 1: hurt and all that. But off the field, I don't 780 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: have one eye like. I know he's doing the work. 781 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 1: I know he's putting in the time. I know that 782 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: he's learning the offense. I know the players are gonna 783 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: rally around him. I know he's the right kind of 784 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 1: leader that the city loves and needs. I look at Jamison, 785 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think those say I'm nervous nervous 786 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: about him, and I'd love to watch him compete. I'd 787 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: love to watch him compete. But that's so different from 788 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm so scared of him making decisions. Well, here's the 789 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: one thing I'm nervous about with Watson, and I think 790 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: everybody is, and does he stay healthy. Not that he's 791 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: injury prone or whatever, but anytime anybody gets hurt, all 792 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: of a sudden, there's this fielding of oh my gosh, 793 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 1: you're not immortal, right right, You're not indestructible. You are destructible. 794 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: And we've been through it here. We went through it 795 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven when Matt shab went down after Week 796 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: ten and the team seven and three in first place 797 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: of the AFC at the time, and a lot of 798 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: prospects moving forward. But oh, by the way, he's out 799 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: for the season. You know. So we've been through that 800 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: kind of thing before. You hate to go through it 801 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: again like they did last year. And maybe, like we 802 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 1: said earlier Greg Rosenthal's column, maybe the football gods will 803 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: smile on the Texans this year. It would be nice. 804 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean, we went through a clowney. I mean, think 805 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: about that. Remember the Atlanta preseason game when he has 806 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: those two hits. Yeah, and I remember Dre staying right afterwards. 807 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 1: Bodi been Bobo Rapp like we've seen enough, yeah, and 808 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: then the first game of the year and it's like 809 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: that guy tnalyzed us with his talent and we saw it, 810 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: and then it's gone for essentially that entire year. And 811 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: then the next year it was there, but it really 812 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: wasn't there. It took two full years for us to 813 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: really siege Devian Clowney, and we saw that with DeShawn 814 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: kind of tantalize us with his talent. I mean, I 815 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: hope the same thing doesn't happen that oh Man in 816 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: his second year he gets banged up again. But that's 817 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 1: the thing. From a concern standpoint, You're only concerned about 818 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: that happening on the field. You're not worried about something 819 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: happening to him off the field. You're not gonna worry 820 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: about him being an uber and have something like that happening. 821 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: He's not gonna be keeping that kind of company alongside 822 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: of him. You don't worry about that. Seemingly what we 823 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: know right now, if Deshaun you don't see that happen. Yeah, 824 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: don't go water skiing, Okay, things not to do water skiing. 825 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even go out of sea do at this 826 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: listen anything at this point. You eat, you breathe, you sleep. 827 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: That's about it. That's it. We need you September nut 828 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: out he comes heavier. Uh, now we met work out 829 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: a little bit more than that. Yeah, he's he's not 830 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: the guy to do that. Okay. He'll be coming into 831 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: camp looking real good from day one. And McClean brought 832 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: it up with me a couple of weeks ago. He's like, 833 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna play much in the preseason. 834 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, you might be right, but 835 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: he'll play some. I'll be all O'Brien knows he's gotta 836 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: get him ready. I'll be okay with that. He's gonna 837 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: get plenty of work against the Niners. Yeah, in the 838 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: preseason practices. He'll get plenty of work against them where 839 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: they can control it. Yeah, a little bit more than 840 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: you can during a game, because you know, during a 841 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: game that competitive spirit takes out. Some rookie wants to 842 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: make a big play. Yeah, exact, and Watson wants to 843 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,919 Speaker 1: make a big play. Exact. The body a little bit more. Ooh, 844 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's so tough. Remember when Shob came back 845 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: running out of bounds all the time, you know, not 846 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: not not that you want shop to like try to 847 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: turn it up field and get the extra yards, but 848 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: there was just a feeling of of being too careful. Yeah, 849 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 1: and maybe I'm just making that up, but it felt 850 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: like that watching it from time to time. Yeah, And 851 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: I get it because they didn't want to get him hurt. 852 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: You know, they knew how important he was. It'll be 853 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,879 Speaker 1: interesting to see how all this goes down. See Jai 854 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston would be the type of player that would 855 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: go out of bounces a couple times and then the 856 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: third time he'd be like, I'm gonna embarrass that defensive 857 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,240 Speaker 1: back and tried to run him over and he sprains 858 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: and ac joint. He's out for two weeks. You know. 859 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: That's the kind of thing that he would do that 860 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: you have to worry about Deshan. How many times when 861 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: Deshan ran the ball last year and I don't know 862 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: what the final number was, and how many times he 863 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: did run it, how many times was he actually tackled? 864 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 1: How many times he actually you're really only in the 865 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: Cincinnati game did you see a big collision And he 866 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: got out of that one. He stayed upright, But you know, 867 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: you see some tackles, or you see him get stopped 868 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: after a running play. I just don't recall any really 869 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,280 Speaker 1: vicious hits on him where you're just oh my gosh. 870 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: You know, even the one that injured his knee allegedly 871 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: was such a fluke. It looked a little at the time, 872 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: it looked a little dicey, but they kept playing, so 873 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: you thought, all right, that's nothing. All right, Johnny, thanks 874 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: a lot, thank you. All Right, that's gonna do it 875 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: for the show tonight. Thanks so much for listening. And 876 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 1: you can hear this program on iTunes and Houston Texans 877 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: dot com. So go check out the website for all 878 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: the info on your uston Texans, the Priority Waitlist, Texans Lucks, 879 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,720 Speaker 1: all of it. Have a great evening everyone, and go Texans.