WEBVTT - #54 - Dierks Bentley 0:00:00.000 --> 0:00:03.760 Here you go. All right, Welcome to episode Fits for 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:09.240 Bobby Cast with Derek Spentley. We're having my theme song 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.840 be Bones from the radio. We's got him. No, that 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:15.840 was where TV show the whole different thing. We still 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.160 have that. We're still out there. It's still your podcast. 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.159 Was like, where's my but that was Dark's wrote a 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.439 song for a TV pilot that we're still in the 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.520 middle of. And so I was like, heyp and so 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.000 you made a song but it still exists. Just nobody's 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.000 heard it yet because I'm not. We're on lockdown with 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:35.280 that thing until July because you had it sign a 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:37.800 contract where nobody can see or hear anything. Un told Joe, 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:39.440 there was me and some of the guys of the 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:41.519 band d and whole culture. It'll play real kind of 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:43.680 came up a little theme song for you, but uh, 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.440 hopefully I'll hear that. One day, I was talking to 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:51.800 someone that uh Sarah at c m A, and she 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:53.519 was talking about how you guys used to work at 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:55.960 Nahville Network together. So this is what we were just 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:59.760 talking before my stand up show on Saturday Night, Congratulations 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.680 by the with yeah yeah, yeah, and she was like hey, 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:04.399 because she was like he's Dirk's coming. And I was like, no, 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.119 I think Dirk's on the road. I guess everybody assumes 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:07.480 if I'm in talent, you're gonna come to the show. 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:09.640 She was like, hey's Dirk's coming. I was like, he 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:11.720 has not would have been there. He's not coming, He's 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.120 he's on the road. And she said, you know, Dirk's 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:15.800 used to and I know you were used working in 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:17.440 Nashvial nightwork, but she was like, you know, he used 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:21.160 to leave CDs on everybody's chairs all the time, like 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:23.000 you would. He would leave and he would just leave 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.240 music on everybody's chairs that we would all have it 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.200 and hear it. Was that to get people to actually 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:29.959 hear the music or was that because you liked them 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:32.120 as friends and you wanted to hear your music. No, 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.440 that was me trying to get it, you know, just 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.360 opening every door possible. And I definitely wanted to hear it, 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.440 but I was trying to get something going and not 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.120 really in a desperate way, just like you know, I 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:46.280 was working on music, and yeah, Sarah, anyone I thought 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.160 could like be of help with, like you know, of 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.840 hearing that and help me maybe putting someone's hands or 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.880 getting get kicked out of doors. It was the point. 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:56.960 But I can't leave you remembers that. Yeah, we worked 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:58.440 at team in the buildings gone. We used to work 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:00.440 as across Street and the Opery House. And when Tina 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.040 and cmt we're gonna all pack together. And I was 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.840 just doing anything I could at that point, Um, you know, 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.480 recording songs. I was playing downtown on Lower Broadway. I 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.440 was writing it. Uh you know as cap and the 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.480 little writers whom they have upstairs for they allow anyone 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.120 to write in So it's just kind of a thing. 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.440 I'm just a shotgun blast of putting my stuff out 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.120 there and seeing what would stick. And I'm sorry but 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:23.600 my voice, by the way, but I just did three 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.959 shows in a row and travel back today from South Dakota, 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.959 and my voice is a little fried. Do you when 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:30.920 you try? You always fly back. You always fly your 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.840 own plane back, always fly the band now, I always 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.200 fly that. I don't know what your thing is a 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.600 flying if there's some deep it's one of two things, 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.360 because I don't I don't understand the flying thing with 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:45.360 you and so much so, and I think you're probably 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:49.760 good pilot. I mean, you have to be right. They 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.560 also called them those little planes like you know, law 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:56.239 your killers, because you get just that, you get enough 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.480 and out there. Yeah, it's man of the flying thing 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:03.040 is so um it's you know, it's a whole another show, 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.600 but it is, you know, it's it's a it's a manifestation. 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:07.320 That's something that I put out there a long time ago. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:08.880 And um, I think it's one of the United Sharing 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.640 Commons manifesting our realities and and and it starts with 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:13.840 small things. Start off me just when I was nineteen, 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:15.360 want to get my pilots license. And it took me 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:16.720 three years to get it. Why do you want to 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:18.600 get a pilots I just wanted to fly. I just 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:19.760 had that when I was when I was a kid, 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:22.360 I made model airplanes. I just wanted and I just 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.720 wanted to fly. And it took me three years just 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:26.640 because it took time and money to do it. I 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:28.679 got my pilots license, and then I just stopped flying 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:31.280 because I didn't have a mission. And then I flew 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.239 with Kenneth Chesney one time, coming back from the show 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.440 in a private jet, my first time ever in a jet. 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.520 I was like, this was unbelievable. It was back in 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.480 two thousand three was me, Keith and Kenny in a plane. 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.640 It was awesome. I was like, whoa, this is what 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.320 I want, you know, And so I've done this with 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.600 a couple of things. I made my password on my computer. 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.200 When we landed, we went to like a different terminal 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.120 right where jets go, and it was a place called Signature. 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.280 It was like a that's where it's like a the 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.760 the little general aviation plane for a place for jets. 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.400 And I wrote, I made signature my password in my computer. 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:04.640 And so every time I get on my computer at 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.840 a type of words signature, and I was like, I'm 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:08.560 gonna get I wanna I want to own a jet. 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.520 And uh, you know, my career kind of stalled out 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.760 around two thousand and eight and that dream I was 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:15.360 looking at that's never gonna happen. I'm never going on 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.840 a jet school. But uh, you know, that dream kind 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.240 of went away. And I was planning a gig somewhere 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.400 with halfway to Hazard of all people, and a little 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.120 plane flew overhead and these guys like I always look 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.680 at the planes, and these guys, that's Tim McGraw's, that's 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:29.479 he's Tim's up there flying that plane to the gig today. 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.919 It was a charity gig we are doing. I was like, 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.120 Tim McGraw has his own COLOGN. He's not flying around 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.800 in a little six cylinder prop plane by him, you know. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:38.840 And sure enough it's Tim McGraw and he's like, yeah, 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:40.839 I'm getting polostle license. And he was flying the school 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.359 plane and getting my pilot's license and he was flying 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.640 the plane. Oh, he was an instructor flying to a 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.760 gig multitasking. And so I went out the next day 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.880 and started flying with that instructor and I just fell 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:52.640 back and love with flying again. And I had had 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.240 a kid at this point to every was born. So 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:55.479 I was looking for ways to kind of cut the 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.080 corners off some of my travel. At this point, I 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.479 was flying south west all the time, and so I 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.159 started flying a small plane NonStop because of a of 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.680 a McGraw and I put about five six, seven or 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.320 hours and not playing find everywhere, And a long story short, 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.760 how things you put them out to the the universe that 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.080 they come back to you. I was flying out of 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.360 a hair. I flew a commercial plane indo hair, went 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:16.919 around to the other side of the airport and jumped 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:18.920 in my plane, a little prop plane that someone had 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:20.159 met me with to fly to a gig in a 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.440 small town, and I was using the bathroom at the 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.280 urinal and I looked up and the word signature was 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.680 above the urinal and I was like, oh, my God, 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:29.800 Like it totally worked out in the way I wasn't expecting. 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:30.839 I thought I was gonna be in the back of 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.640 a jet, you know, that was my my what I 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.440 was manifesting, hoping to manifest end up being in the 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.320 front left seat of a prop plane, which is way cool. 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.160 I robly be the pilot than a passenger. And uh, 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.159 it's just it's crazy to even things out there like that. 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.520 And they come around and now and they continue to evolve. 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.440 I've met, you know, I met the guys at SESSAM, 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.400 became friends with the the guy that runs the company, 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:49.760 and find a little bit different plane now that I 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.080 can actually hold all the guys in my band, they're 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.359 they're all brave enough to fly with me. And I 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.200 have another pilot that flies with us too, so there's 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.880 two us up front. The plane is just because we 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:01.840 were together in Vegas and you're like, hey, we're leaving 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.839 at four pm. Tomorrow if you want to. I was like, dude, 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.320 I appreciate the offer. I don't want to get in 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.479 a small plane like that, Like I don't feel comfortable. 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.120 Yeah you if you flew, you know, for me and 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:12.800 the guys of the band, it's you know, it's we 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:14.800 have kids, and it's just like I remember the first 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.880 tie I took a guitar player with me, our old 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:18.800 guitar player, Brian Lason. He's like, I'll go up with 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.800 you one time when it's perfectly clear and we don't 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:23.760 go a mile from the airport. I was like, all right, 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.360 we'll see about that. I flew him home one night 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:27.640 for my gig, so you got to be home at 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:29.440 midnight instead of getting home the next day on the 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.320 bus at like ten am. I called him Velcrove because 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:33.560 I could not get him out of the seat. He 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.359 was stuck to that seat. Every time I was flying 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.480 in ice, rain, snow, he was always like the first 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.080 one wanted to go, because it's a time machine. If 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.320 you've got kids in this business, um, you have to 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.279 be two places at once. It's definitely just and maybe 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.240 not that plane, but you know, sometimes work if they're 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.279 somewhere out to get quick. They'll send a plane. Yeah, 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.560 and they'll go, hey, we need you New York to 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.760 Los Angeles and then we need you back in New York. 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.000 So they'll send their plane and I'll just get shipped around. 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.640 It's again, it's a change like it is, and it's 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.000 a total luxury, and it's crazy even talking about it, 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.000 but it is for me. I want to be as 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.000 successful as a dad as I am, as I feel 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.200 like as I've been as a as a singer entertainer. 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:09.920 And to do that, you have to be present. You 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:11.480 have to be there. You can't talk about it. You 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.720 have to be there for the make the breakfast. You 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.280 gotta be there to go the games. You gotta be 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.000 there to do all the the little things, the tiny 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.200 things and the dumb things. And uh a lot of math, 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:22.760 all right? Are you doing math all the time up 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.200 there or not? Really? I'm just a calculator the whole time. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.120 I'm going to nobody Austin, you know, I fly with 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:30.520 This is such a help. I mean, it's when you've 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.040 got a two man crew, it really helps out a lot. 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.880 But we've got a great product and find Assessina Plaine 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.720 and it's it's it's really reliable, great people in the 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.720 great service, and it is just it makes and I 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.360 fly the whole band with me too. Those guys go 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.120 with me everywhere, and so when we walk on stage, 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.640 they're in a great mood because their families are happy, 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:50.960 their wives are in good spirits with their kids that 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.560 morning we hit the stage. It makes for a better show. 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.680 I mean, it makes it's a win win for us, 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.840 for our fans and obviously for our kids. So it's 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:00.720 it's kind of at this point of my career, it's 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.160 one has to you know that they go hand in hand. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:06.120 How do you do your band? Because so I have 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.600 are a little stupid band, and I have a couple 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.280 of people that I keep on all the time, my 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.840 drummer or my bassist. They're just my drummer and my 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.840 basis cool. But do you but everybody else kind of 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:17.200 trickles in and out. I pay them, you know, they 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.080 have to get paid differently because some do some shows. 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.080 Is your whole band like on a retainer? Like do 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.600 you pay them a salary? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So they're 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.640 like your people. Yeah, that's I mean, I've always been 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.560 a band guy. When I was playing down over Broadway. 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:29.960 I just like being in the band, you know, I 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.800 love at a list of like, you know, a hundred 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.480 guys that've met over the year the years of being 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.080 down there. If I needed to steel player, I'd call 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:38.600 Rusty dan Meyer. If I needed up by a bass player, 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.240 I'd call this guy. And so I just I've always 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.600 loved musicians. They're my favorite people. They're just to be 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.839 a great musician, you have to learn from all the 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.400 people before you, so it really humbles you to a degree. 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.560 You know, you don't think you're the greatest guy ever 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:52.199 because you have to study all the people that came 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.360 before you to get good. So they're just great people. 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.120 They're fun to be around. They don't know how to egos, 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.840 but you pay them, they get company. Yes, it wasn't 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:01.240 the right thing. When you actually get a band, you 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:02.720 go from paying the day rates when you can actually 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.520 put them on salary. It's like the best feelings. It's 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.319 a big deal for them beyond salary, and so yeah, 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.080 they get you're gonna pay the salaries without the whole year, 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.320 whether we're touring or not. It's awesome. If they came 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.120 to you and said, hey, Dirk's listen I'm gonna leave them, 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.280 gonna go over to Urban. No one's leaves my band 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.120 because they just enjoyed them, because because they love we 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.320 have a great vibe together. We're super close. Were as 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:26.800 close it's probably your morning shows. And they get paid 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.640 really well. And they fly everywhere with me to every 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.760 gate when I fly a lot. So they're their lifestyle. 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.240 You're get you get in the lifestyle that makes them 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.559 want to stay. There's no gig out there that anyone 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.280 in my band would ever take. You could toss the 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.640 greatest rock band out there. They would never take that gig. 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.520 I treat them like they're those guys are my That 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:49.640 is all my dude times, all my broad times with 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:51.319 the guys in the band as there who I do 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.240 all my stuff with. That's when I come home and like, 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.120 I don't need to see any ever, males. I'm good. 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.400 I've been with my guys all weekend. We had a 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.720 great time. We went and saw out Rushmore. We were 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.040 in hiking, we play video games, we and we were 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.280 going through this shared experience together. When I walk on stage, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.199 that's like a you know, I have a lot of 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.840 other friends with these guys. We have a shared experience 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.280 of going out there every day and having to you know, 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.599 run this marathon and crack this rock and break it 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:17.360 up in the little pieces over and over again. In 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.319 find ways to do it where it makes it fun 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.600 for us continually. It's kind of like a therapy session 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.280 in a way, if you really are trying to do 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.640 it in an honest and sincere way that the live 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.560 show that is, and not just put on a show, 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.959 but go through an experience with your fans and with 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.960 your fellow bandmates. Um, it's uh. I really approached that way. 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.600 Obviously it's my deal, but I approach it as a band, 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.120 from the way we interact on stage to even where 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.480 their mics are placed on stage up near mind not 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.000 wait in the back, you know, we're it's more like 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.480 a level. Yeah, I think of Pearl Jam. I try 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.360 to keep it up tight and close like that. So 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.520 if you're a way of doing dude stuff, is there 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.599 any resentment from your wife if she's at home with 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.120 the kids and she's like, you get to go and 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.560 do dudes. I know you're working, but still you're doing 0:10:57.720 --> 0:10:59.960 dude fun stuff and then you come home and she's 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.560 with kids. Totally Yeah, I mean I won't say resentment, 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.079 but there's there's I mean there's I have to be 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.439 honest about it and transparent about it because I am I. 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.319 I am doing my job. This is what I do. 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.320 But I love what I do. I mean I love. 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.760 There's nothing like be on stage with your guys and 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:17.120 your fans, and and I gotta do stuff. You know, 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.959 there's there's work. But yeah, like I when hiking yesterday 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:23.680 and the Black Hills in the mountains outside of rapid 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.040 city of South Dakota, and I was in billions of 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:31.320 Montana two days ago, hiking through just beautiful um mountains, 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.520 A run there, hills around there and just and I 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:35.079 just tell her this stuff. I'm not trying to hide 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:36.679 it from them. Like I noticed untying all week in 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.360 a Nashville and here I am like in like seventi 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.719 five agree weather and like Montana probably my one of 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.520 my favorite states in the whole country. And so when 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:45.320 I come home, I just I'm ready for a battle, man. 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.320 I'm ready to help out any way I possibly can. 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.319 I wake up every morning at four or forty four 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.280 so I can go get my workout in, be done 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.600 by six, and be home like ready to be fully 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.599 engaged in like the drama of having three kids and 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.160 three dogs and all the work that goes into trying 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.280 to make that house you know, run great and everyone 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.760 have great days. So I owere a lot and she 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.120 it's if I ever were to win award um, the 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:11.199 only reason I loved one Keith Urban, I ever do 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.320 win an award, UM, I would want to go up 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.920 there just to thank her because it's incredible. Man. She 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.400 it's it's it's hard man, um, any all moms out there, 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.719 any any parent, Um, that's the hardest gig man. You 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.280 know you, I know how hard you work. It's insane. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.240 Your your work ethic and I you know, I work 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.480 really hard too. But I think when that when you 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.600 have kids, like it's a whole little level because there's 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.679 such a responsibility there. I mean, you're basically growing this 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.120 creature and your input is so important and you don't 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.240 ever get a break. I mean, you're you're it's seven. 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.599 You don't even sleep because someone's having a nightmare, some 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:47.720 mighty bee the bed. You know, you hear a sound, 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:51.520 dogs barking. It's just it's so it's twenty seven, it's 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.360 so hard. So unless you're gone for three days and 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.599 it's like you're a vacation. So for me, I'm not 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.480 saying for me, I'm saying for her. No, for me, 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:00.240 it's like I gotta you know, it's kind of like 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:01.719 pulling the repcord and you get to go on the 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.360 road and so you're out there and you can get 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.719 stuff done and you can choose to either you know, 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:08.920 party or work out or you know. There's a lot 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:10.880 of freedoms with that. So um, yeah, I just try 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.040 to be really transparent with her and honest that what 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.640 I'm doing, and she's super supportive at the same time. Yeah, 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.160 it's it's it's stuff and I can get that break 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.080 you mentioned a minute ago in two thousand and eight 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:26.120 when you said your career stalled. M hm nine, yeah, 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.520 eight or nine, because right now we see you as 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.959 the guy who has You're now in the A it's 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:33.160 hard to be in the A group. You're in the 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:34.920 A group. You're now in the A group. I think 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.920 you're a recent addition, just speaking frankly to the your 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:42.520 region addition to A group. Plus you're you really are 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.320 on the I wouldn't tell you if you are. Plus 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:46.920 you're in the you're in the you're in the like 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.360 you're in that mix of is he going to be 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.560 in the entertain of your category? Now it's not. He's 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.640 for sure gonna be nominated, Like you know, Luke is 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.439 going to be nominated and probably gonna win, and he 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.360 didn't win the a c mL Dean did. But like 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:00.920 you know, Luke gonna but you're on that is he 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.080 gonna be in? And it's happened in the last couple 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:07.000 of years, But it's but you're like the consummate grinder. Yeah, 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.000 I'm used the word a lot. It's like the hockey 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.640 player that goes down there and not the slapshot guy 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.120 from out top, not the fancy ford that's getting the 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:15.800 sweet goals with the guy that goes down the corner 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:17.480 and digs the pucks out. You know. That's probably that's 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.400 when my play hockey here in town, in my little league, 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.400 at the er league. That's kind of my role in 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.600 real life on that hockey team. And uh, I think 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.600 in my career, yes, it's all about it's about grinding. 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:30.760 My favorite quote, um is was written on a was 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.960 it Calvin Coolist quote? It's about you know, persistence and determinations. 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.440 You know, education and talent and genius can't take the 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.240 place of persistence and determination. That is the key to 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.840 my success for sure, and I know probably for yours 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:45.520 as well. I mean, there's no reason why I should 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:47.720 be a country singer or a pilot. But you know, 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:49.640 there's just things that um, I wanted to do. And 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.160 if you work harder than anyone else, UM, you've got 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.360 a better chance of making that happen. What what happened 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.320 in two thousand eight, two thousand nine, and your mind 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:00.440 that you took a step back. You know, I went 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.560 out on the road with UM. I play a thousand 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.120 eights in my own. I went out the road with Kenny, 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.040 and then I went on the road towards straight and 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:07.640 I went back on the road with Kenny. And that's 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.080 usually that's usually the platform to jump off of, you know, 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.440 And that's where urban flats everyone went through Kenny back 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.160 when those when we were starting off. If you got 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.320 the Kenny gig boom, you were a couple of years 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.240 in near you be headlining on your own. And you know, 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:20.960 we're really looking like a two thousand and eight would 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.400 be bringing out some video and it's gonna be this 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.880 kind of the ground swell and really, uh it's for 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.720 you know, it's just the songs weren't there. That's what 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.880 it comes down to. Um. I was writing pretty much 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.440 all my own songs, working lout with some some friends 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.880 mine here in town. And and it's not their fault either, 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:39.840 it's it's it's nobody's fault. I'm so happy that things 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.000 are what they are. But I think I discovered you 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.120 can't tour. I think I was in my mind, I 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.080 was trying to make albums that would um be jet 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.840 fuel for the for touring, Like how can this album? 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:54.000 How can this song lead to headlining? And that's and 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:55.680 you know, I need, I need the song and help 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.960 me get there. And that's just a terrible way to 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.200 make records. And nothing against those records. Those records still 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:01.760 sound like some of are so some of my favorite 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:05.200 signing records, but as far as singles go, and songs 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.320 are gonna move the needle and really, uh, you know, 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:12.480 and I feel like I just needed to reset. Um. 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.840 I don't know, you know, I just I was you 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.800 can only work so hard, man. I was working so 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:20.000 hard on the road, touring NonStop. Um, you know, jumping 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.920