Speaker 1: Here you go. All right, Welcome to episode Fits for
Speaker 1: Bobby Cast with Derek Spentley. We're having my theme song
Speaker 1: be Bones from the radio. We's got him. No, that
Speaker 1: was where TV show the whole different thing. We still
Speaker 1: have that. We're still out there. It's still your podcast.
Speaker 1: Was like, where's my but that was Dark's wrote a
Speaker 1: song for a TV pilot that we're still in the
Speaker 1: middle of. And so I was like, heyp and so
Speaker 1: you made a song but it still exists. Just nobody's
Speaker 1: heard it yet because I'm not. We're on lockdown with
Speaker 1: that thing until July because you had it sign a
Speaker 1: contract where nobody can see or hear anything. Un told Joe,
Speaker 1: there was me and some of the guys of the
Speaker 1: band d and whole culture. It'll play real kind of
Speaker 1: came up a little theme song for you, but uh,
Speaker 1: hopefully I'll hear that. One day, I was talking to
Speaker 1: someone that uh Sarah at c m A, and she
Speaker 1: was talking about how you guys used to work at
Speaker 1: Nahville Network together. So this is what we were just
Speaker 1: talking before my stand up show on Saturday Night, Congratulations
Speaker 1: by the with yeah yeah, yeah, and she was like hey,
Speaker 1: because she was like he's Dirk's coming. And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I think Dirk's on the road. I guess everybody assumes
Speaker 1: if I'm in talent, you're gonna come to the show.
Speaker 1: She was like, hey's Dirk's coming. I was like, he
Speaker 1: has not would have been there. He's not coming, He's
Speaker 1: he's on the road. And she said, you know, Dirk's
Speaker 1: used to and I know you were used working in
Speaker 1: Nashvial nightwork, but she was like, you know, he used
Speaker 1: to leave CDs on everybody's chairs all the time, like
Speaker 1: you would. He would leave and he would just leave
Speaker 1: music on everybody's chairs that we would all have it
Speaker 1: and hear it. Was that to get people to actually
Speaker 1: hear the music or was that because you liked them
Speaker 1: as friends and you wanted to hear your music. No,
Speaker 1: that was me trying to get it, you know, just
Speaker 1: opening every door possible. And I definitely wanted to hear it,
Speaker 1: but I was trying to get something going and not
Speaker 1: really in a desperate way, just like you know, I
Speaker 1: was working on music, and yeah, Sarah, anyone I thought
Speaker 1: could like be of help with, like you know, of
Speaker 1: hearing that and help me maybe putting someone's hands or
Speaker 1: getting get kicked out of doors. It was the point.
Speaker 1: But I can't leave you remembers that. Yeah, we worked
Speaker 1: at team in the buildings gone. We used to work
Speaker 1: as across Street and the Opery House. And when Tina
Speaker 1: and cmt we're gonna all pack together. And I was
Speaker 1: just doing anything I could at that point, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: recording songs. I was playing downtown on Lower Broadway. I
Speaker 1: was writing it. Uh you know as cap and the
Speaker 1: little writers whom they have upstairs for they allow anyone
Speaker 1: to write in So it's just kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: I'm just a shotgun blast of putting my stuff out
Speaker 1: there and seeing what would stick. And I'm sorry but
Speaker 1: my voice, by the way, but I just did three
Speaker 1: shows in a row and travel back today from South Dakota,
Speaker 1: and my voice is a little fried. Do you when
Speaker 1: you try? You always fly back. You always fly your
Speaker 1: own plane back, always fly the band now, I always
Speaker 1: fly that. I don't know what your thing is a
Speaker 1: flying if there's some deep it's one of two things,
Speaker 1: because I don't I don't understand the flying thing with
Speaker 1: you and so much so, and I think you're probably
Speaker 1: good pilot. I mean, you have to be right. They
Speaker 1: also called them those little planes like you know, law
Speaker 1: your killers, because you get just that, you get enough
Speaker 1: and out there. Yeah, it's man of the flying thing
Speaker 1: is so um it's you know, it's a whole another show,
Speaker 1: but it is, you know, it's it's a it's a manifestation.
Speaker 1: That's something that I put out there a long time ago.
Speaker 1: And um, I think it's one of the United Sharing
Speaker 1: Commons manifesting our realities and and and it starts with
Speaker 1: small things. Start off me just when I was nineteen,
Speaker 1: want to get my pilots license. And it took me
Speaker 1: three years to get it. Why do you want to
Speaker 1: get a pilots I just wanted to fly. I just
Speaker 1: had that when I was when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: I made model airplanes. I just wanted and I just
Speaker 1: wanted to fly. And it took me three years just
Speaker 1: because it took time and money to do it. I
Speaker 1: got my pilots license, and then I just stopped flying
Speaker 1: because I didn't have a mission. And then I flew
Speaker 1: with Kenneth Chesney one time, coming back from the show
Speaker 1: in a private jet, my first time ever in a jet.
Speaker 1: I was like, this was unbelievable. It was back in
Speaker 1: two thousand three was me, Keith and Kenny in a plane.
Speaker 1: It was awesome. I was like, whoa, this is what
Speaker 1: I want, you know, And so I've done this with
Speaker 1: a couple of things. I made my password on my computer.
Speaker 1: When we landed, we went to like a different terminal
Speaker 1: right where jets go, and it was a place called Signature.
Speaker 1: It was like a that's where it's like a the
Speaker 1: the little general aviation plane for a place for jets.
Speaker 1: And I wrote, I made signature my password in my computer.
Speaker 1: And so every time I get on my computer at
Speaker 1: a type of words signature, and I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get I wanna I want to own a jet.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, my career kind of stalled out
Speaker 1: around two thousand and eight and that dream I was
Speaker 1: looking at that's never gonna happen. I'm never going on
Speaker 1: a jet school. But uh, you know, that dream kind
Speaker 1: of went away. And I was planning a gig somewhere
Speaker 1: with halfway to Hazard of all people, and a little
Speaker 1: plane flew overhead and these guys like I always look
Speaker 1: at the planes, and these guys, that's Tim McGraw's, that's
Speaker 1: he's Tim's up there flying that plane to the gig today.
Speaker 1: It was a charity gig we are doing. I was like,
Speaker 1: Tim McGraw has his own COLOGN. He's not flying around
Speaker 1: in a little six cylinder prop plane by him, you know.
Speaker 1: And sure enough it's Tim McGraw and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting polostle license. And he was flying the school
Speaker 1: plane and getting my pilot's license and he was flying
Speaker 1: the plane. Oh, he was an instructor flying to a
Speaker 1: gig multitasking. And so I went out the next day
Speaker 1: and started flying with that instructor and I just fell
Speaker 1: back and love with flying again. And I had had
Speaker 1: a kid at this point to every was born. So
Speaker 1: I was looking for ways to kind of cut the
Speaker 1: corners off some of my travel. At this point, I
Speaker 1: was flying south west all the time, and so I
Speaker 1: started flying a small plane NonStop because of a of
Speaker 1: a McGraw and I put about five six, seven or
Speaker 1: hours and not playing find everywhere, And a long story short,
Speaker 1: how things you put them out to the the universe that
Speaker 1: they come back to you. I was flying out of
Speaker 1: a hair. I flew a commercial plane indo hair, went
Speaker 1: around to the other side of the airport and jumped
Speaker 1: in my plane, a little prop plane that someone had
Speaker 1: met me with to fly to a gig in a
Speaker 1: small town, and I was using the bathroom at the
Speaker 1: urinal and I looked up and the word signature was
Speaker 1: above the urinal and I was like, oh, my God,
Speaker 1: Like it totally worked out in the way I wasn't expecting.
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna be in the back of
Speaker 1: a jet, you know, that was my my what I
Speaker 1: was manifesting, hoping to manifest end up being in the
Speaker 1: front left seat of a prop plane, which is way cool.
Speaker 1: I robly be the pilot than a passenger. And uh,
Speaker 1: it's just it's crazy to even things out there like that.
Speaker 1: And they come around and now and they continue to evolve.
Speaker 1: I've met, you know, I met the guys at SESSAM,
Speaker 1: became friends with the the guy that runs the company,
Speaker 1: and find a little bit different plane now that I
Speaker 1: can actually hold all the guys in my band, they're
Speaker 1: they're all brave enough to fly with me. And I
Speaker 1: have another pilot that flies with us too, so there's
Speaker 1: two us up front. The plane is just because we
Speaker 1: were together in Vegas and you're like, hey, we're leaving
Speaker 1: at four pm. Tomorrow if you want to. I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: I appreciate the offer. I don't want to get in
Speaker 1: a small plane like that, Like I don't feel comfortable.
Speaker 1: Yeah you if you flew, you know, for me and
Speaker 1: the guys of the band, it's you know, it's we
Speaker 1: have kids, and it's just like I remember the first
Speaker 1: tie I took a guitar player with me, our old
Speaker 1: guitar player, Brian Lason. He's like, I'll go up with
Speaker 1: you one time when it's perfectly clear and we don't
Speaker 1: go a mile from the airport. I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: we'll see about that. I flew him home one night
Speaker 1: for my gig, so you got to be home at
Speaker 1: midnight instead of getting home the next day on the
Speaker 1: bus at like ten am. I called him Velcrove because
Speaker 1: I could not get him out of the seat. He
Speaker 1: was stuck to that seat. Every time I was flying
Speaker 1: in ice, rain, snow, he was always like the first
Speaker 1: one wanted to go, because it's a time machine. If
Speaker 1: you've got kids in this business, um, you have to
Speaker 1: be two places at once. It's definitely just and maybe
Speaker 1: not that plane, but you know, sometimes work if they're
Speaker 1: somewhere out to get quick. They'll send a plane. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they'll go, hey, we need you New York to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and then we need you back in New York.
Speaker 1: So they'll send their plane and I'll just get shipped around.
Speaker 1: It's again, it's a change like it is, and it's
Speaker 1: a total luxury, and it's crazy even talking about it,
Speaker 1: but it is for me. I want to be as
Speaker 1: successful as a dad as I am, as I feel
Speaker 1: like as I've been as a as a singer entertainer.
Speaker 1: And to do that, you have to be present. You
Speaker 1: have to be there. You can't talk about it. You
Speaker 1: have to be there for the make the breakfast. You
Speaker 1: gotta be there to go the games. You gotta be
Speaker 1: there to do all the the little things, the tiny
Speaker 1: things and the dumb things. And uh a lot of math,
Speaker 1: all right? Are you doing math all the time up
Speaker 1: there or not? Really? I'm just a calculator the whole time.
Speaker 1: I'm going to nobody Austin, you know, I fly with
Speaker 1: This is such a help. I mean, it's when you've
Speaker 1: got a two man crew, it really helps out a lot.
Speaker 1: But we've got a great product and find Assessina Plaine
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's really reliable, great people in the
Speaker 1: great service, and it is just it makes and I
Speaker 1: fly the whole band with me too. Those guys go
Speaker 1: with me everywhere, and so when we walk on stage,
Speaker 1: they're in a great mood because their families are happy,
Speaker 1: their wives are in good spirits with their kids that
Speaker 1: morning we hit the stage. It makes for a better show.
Speaker 1: I mean, it makes it's a win win for us,
Speaker 1: for our fans and obviously for our kids. So it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of at this point of my career, it's
Speaker 1: one has to you know that they go hand in hand.
Speaker 1: How do you do your band? Because so I have
Speaker 1: are a little stupid band, and I have a couple
Speaker 1: of people that I keep on all the time, my
Speaker 1: drummer or my bassist. They're just my drummer and my
Speaker 1: basis cool. But do you but everybody else kind of
Speaker 1: trickles in and out. I pay them, you know, they
Speaker 1: have to get paid differently because some do some shows.
Speaker 1: Is your whole band like on a retainer? Like do
Speaker 1: you pay them a salary? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So they're
Speaker 1: like your people. Yeah, that's I mean, I've always been
Speaker 1: a band guy. When I was playing down over Broadway.
Speaker 1: I just like being in the band, you know, I
Speaker 1: love at a list of like, you know, a hundred
Speaker 1: guys that've met over the year the years of being
Speaker 1: down there. If I needed to steel player, I'd call
Speaker 1: Rusty dan Meyer. If I needed up by a bass player,
Speaker 1: I'd call this guy. And so I just I've always
Speaker 1: loved musicians. They're my favorite people. They're just to be
Speaker 1: a great musician, you have to learn from all the
Speaker 1: people before you, so it really humbles you to a degree.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't think you're the greatest guy ever
Speaker 1: because you have to study all the people that came
Speaker 1: before you to get good. So they're just great people.
Speaker 1: They're fun to be around. They don't know how to egos,
Speaker 1: but you pay them, they get company. Yes, it wasn't
Speaker 1: the right thing. When you actually get a band, you
Speaker 1: go from paying the day rates when you can actually
Speaker 1: put them on salary. It's like the best feelings. It's
Speaker 1: a big deal for them beyond salary, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: they get you're gonna pay the salaries without the whole year,
Speaker 1: whether we're touring or not. It's awesome. If they came
Speaker 1: to you and said, hey, Dirk's listen I'm gonna leave them,
Speaker 1: gonna go over to Urban. No one's leaves my band
Speaker 1: because they just enjoyed them, because because they love we
Speaker 1: have a great vibe together. We're super close. Were as
Speaker 1: close it's probably your morning shows. And they get paid
Speaker 1: really well. And they fly everywhere with me to every
Speaker 1: gate when I fly a lot. So they're their lifestyle.
Speaker 1: You're get you get in the lifestyle that makes them
Speaker 1: want to stay. There's no gig out there that anyone
Speaker 1: in my band would ever take. You could toss the
Speaker 1: greatest rock band out there. They would never take that gig.
Speaker 1: I treat them like they're those guys are my That
Speaker 1: is all my dude times, all my broad times with
Speaker 1: the guys in the band as there who I do
Speaker 1: all my stuff with. That's when I come home and like,
Speaker 1: I don't need to see any ever, males. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I've been with my guys all weekend. We had a
Speaker 1: great time. We went and saw out Rushmore. We were
Speaker 1: in hiking, we play video games, we and we were
Speaker 1: going through this shared experience together. When I walk on stage,
Speaker 1: that's like a you know, I have a lot of
Speaker 1: other friends with these guys. We have a shared experience
Speaker 1: of going out there every day and having to you know,
Speaker 1: run this marathon and crack this rock and break it
Speaker 1: up in the little pieces over and over again. In
Speaker 1: find ways to do it where it makes it fun
Speaker 1: for us continually. It's kind of like a therapy session
Speaker 1: in a way, if you really are trying to do
Speaker 1: it in an honest and sincere way that the live
Speaker 1: show that is, and not just put on a show,
Speaker 1: but go through an experience with your fans and with
Speaker 1: your fellow bandmates. Um, it's uh. I really approached that way.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's my deal, but I approach it as a band,
Speaker 1: from the way we interact on stage to even where
Speaker 1: their mics are placed on stage up near mind not
Speaker 1: wait in the back, you know, we're it's more like
Speaker 1: a level. Yeah, I think of Pearl Jam. I try
Speaker 1: to keep it up tight and close like that. So
Speaker 1: if you're a way of doing dude stuff, is there
Speaker 1: any resentment from your wife if she's at home with
Speaker 1: the kids and she's like, you get to go and
Speaker 1: do dudes. I know you're working, but still you're doing
Speaker 1: dude fun stuff and then you come home and she's
Speaker 1: with kids. Totally Yeah, I mean I won't say resentment,
Speaker 1: but there's there's I mean there's I have to be
Speaker 1: honest about it and transparent about it because I am I.
Speaker 1: I am doing my job. This is what I do.
Speaker 1: But I love what I do. I mean I love.
Speaker 1: There's nothing like be on stage with your guys and
Speaker 1: your fans, and and I gotta do stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: there's there's work. But yeah, like I when hiking yesterday
Speaker 1: and the Black Hills in the mountains outside of rapid
Speaker 1: city of South Dakota, and I was in billions of
Speaker 1: Montana two days ago, hiking through just beautiful um mountains,
Speaker 1: A run there, hills around there and just and I
Speaker 1: just tell her this stuff. I'm not trying to hide
Speaker 1: it from them. Like I noticed untying all week in
Speaker 1: a Nashville and here I am like in like seventi
Speaker 1: five agree weather and like Montana probably my one of
Speaker 1: my favorite states in the whole country. And so when
Speaker 1: I come home, I just I'm ready for a battle, man.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to help out any way I possibly can.
Speaker 1: I wake up every morning at four or forty four
Speaker 1: so I can go get my workout in, be done
Speaker 1: by six, and be home like ready to be fully
Speaker 1: engaged in like the drama of having three kids and
Speaker 1: three dogs and all the work that goes into trying
Speaker 1: to make that house you know, run great and everyone
Speaker 1: have great days. So I owere a lot and she
Speaker 1: it's if I ever were to win award um, the
Speaker 1: only reason I loved one Keith Urban, I ever do
Speaker 1: win an award, UM, I would want to go up
Speaker 1: there just to thank her because it's incredible. Man. She
Speaker 1: it's it's it's hard man, um, any all moms out there,
Speaker 1: any any parent, Um, that's the hardest gig man. You
Speaker 1: know you, I know how hard you work. It's insane.
Speaker 1: Your your work ethic and I you know, I work
Speaker 1: really hard too. But I think when that when you
Speaker 1: have kids, like it's a whole little level because there's
Speaker 1: such a responsibility there. I mean, you're basically growing this
Speaker 1: creature and your input is so important and you don't
Speaker 1: ever get a break. I mean, you're you're it's seven.
Speaker 1: You don't even sleep because someone's having a nightmare, some
Speaker 1: mighty bee the bed. You know, you hear a sound,
Speaker 1: dogs barking. It's just it's so it's twenty seven, it's
Speaker 1: so hard. So unless you're gone for three days and
Speaker 1: it's like you're a vacation. So for me, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying for me, I'm saying for her. No, for me,
Speaker 1: it's like I gotta you know, it's kind of like
Speaker 1: pulling the repcord and you get to go on the
Speaker 1: road and so you're out there and you can get
Speaker 1: stuff done and you can choose to either you know,
Speaker 1: party or work out or you know. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of freedoms with that. So um, yeah, I just try
Speaker 1: to be really transparent with her and honest that what
Speaker 1: I'm doing, and she's super supportive at the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's stuff and I can get that break
Speaker 1: you mentioned a minute ago in two thousand and eight
Speaker 1: when you said your career stalled. M hm nine, yeah,
Speaker 1: eight or nine, because right now we see you as
Speaker 1: the guy who has You're now in the A it's
Speaker 1: hard to be in the A group. You're in the
Speaker 1: A group. You're now in the A group. I think
Speaker 1: you're a recent addition, just speaking frankly to the your
Speaker 1: region addition to A group. Plus you're you really are
Speaker 1: on the I wouldn't tell you if you are. Plus
Speaker 1: you're in the you're in the you're in the like
Speaker 1: you're in that mix of is he going to be
Speaker 1: in the entertain of your category? Now it's not. He's
Speaker 1: for sure gonna be nominated, Like you know, Luke is
Speaker 1: going to be nominated and probably gonna win, and he
Speaker 1: didn't win the a c mL Dean did. But like
Speaker 1: you know, Luke gonna but you're on that is he
Speaker 1: gonna be in? And it's happened in the last couple
Speaker 1: of years, But it's but you're like the consummate grinder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm used the word a lot. It's like the hockey
Speaker 1: player that goes down there and not the slapshot guy
Speaker 1: from out top, not the fancy ford that's getting the
Speaker 1: sweet goals with the guy that goes down the corner
Speaker 1: and digs the pucks out. You know. That's probably that's
Speaker 1: when my play hockey here in town, in my little league,
Speaker 1: at the er league. That's kind of my role in
Speaker 1: real life on that hockey team. And uh, I think
Speaker 1: in my career, yes, it's all about it's about grinding.
Speaker 1: My favorite quote, um is was written on a was
Speaker 1: it Calvin Coolist quote? It's about you know, persistence and determinations.
Speaker 1: You know, education and talent and genius can't take the
Speaker 1: place of persistence and determination. That is the key to
Speaker 1: my success for sure, and I know probably for yours
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, there's no reason why I should
Speaker 1: be a country singer or a pilot. But you know,
Speaker 1: there's just things that um, I wanted to do. And
Speaker 1: if you work harder than anyone else, UM, you've got
Speaker 1: a better chance of making that happen. What what happened
Speaker 1: in two thousand eight, two thousand nine, and your mind
Speaker 1: that you took a step back. You know, I went
Speaker 1: out on the road with UM. I play a thousand
Speaker 1: eights in my own. I went out the road with Kenny,
Speaker 1: and then I went on the road towards straight and
Speaker 1: I went back on the road with Kenny. And that's
Speaker 1: usually that's usually the platform to jump off of, you know,
Speaker 1: And that's where urban flats everyone went through Kenny back
Speaker 1: when those when we were starting off. If you got
Speaker 1: the Kenny gig boom, you were a couple of years
Speaker 1: in near you be headlining on your own. And you know,
Speaker 1: we're really looking like a two thousand and eight would
Speaker 1: be bringing out some video and it's gonna be this
Speaker 1: kind of the ground swell and really, uh it's for
Speaker 1: you know, it's just the songs weren't there. That's what
Speaker 1: it comes down to. Um. I was writing pretty much
Speaker 1: all my own songs, working lout with some some friends
Speaker 1: mine here in town. And and it's not their fault either,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's nobody's fault. I'm so happy that things
Speaker 1: are what they are. But I think I discovered you
Speaker 1: can't tour. I think I was in my mind, I
Speaker 1: was trying to make albums that would um be jet
Speaker 1: fuel for the for touring, Like how can this album?
Speaker 1: How can this song lead to headlining? And that's and
Speaker 1: you know, I need, I need the song and help
Speaker 1: me get there. And that's just a terrible way to
Speaker 1: make records. And nothing against those records. Those records still
Speaker 1: sound like some of are so some of my favorite
Speaker 1: signing records, but as far as singles go, and songs
Speaker 1: are gonna move the needle and really, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I just needed to reset. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I just I was you
Speaker 1: can only work so hard, man. I was working so
Speaker 1: hard on the road, touring NonStop. Um, you know, jumping
Speaker 1: off stage, I'm stage diving, I'm pulling fans up. I'm just,
Speaker 1: you know, known as the hard was working man in
Speaker 1: country music. We did like forty one shows and forty
Speaker 1: five days one time. I mean, I'm out there all
Speaker 1: the time, and I'm trying to rush back here and
Speaker 1: make records and then go back out there again, and
Speaker 1: it just it just doesn't It just doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1: So I was on the road two thousand eight or
Speaker 1: nine with Paisley and uh I said, I tried my
Speaker 1: headline thing. It just wasn't working. So I was like, okay, retreat.
Speaker 1: Brad was had a chance to go with Brad and
Speaker 1: I was on that tour and uh I was opening
Speaker 1: for him, and there's a lot going on that tour.
Speaker 1: Weren't really getting a chance to sound check um, and
Speaker 1: it was just the vibe of my band just crashed.
Speaker 1: It was kind of the tour that just everyone like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're just only playing for forty five minutes,
Speaker 1: and it's just the songs weren't really there. And I
Speaker 1: just was like at the back of my bus one
Speaker 1: day and I remember thinking, I'm gonna make a bluegrass record.
Speaker 1: I wanna make a bluegrass record and a country record,
Speaker 1: and just I need to get creative. That's why I
Speaker 1: kept thinking, is I need to get creative because when
Speaker 1: you're you're in that opening slot, especially after you've headlined
Speaker 1: for a little while, it's tough to go back and
Speaker 1: just do fourty five minutes of the same show every night.
Speaker 1: You know, you're trying to make the most of that
Speaker 1: forty five minutes, so you kind of get locked into
Speaker 1: doing the same show and just killed all of us. So, um,
Speaker 1: I left and mid uh end up making just just
Speaker 1: a bluegrass record, and uh really, and I went back
Speaker 1: in the process of making that, being off the grid
Speaker 1: and not worrying about singles or touring or anything, just
Speaker 1: trying to make a great record that stood alone up
Speaker 1: by itself, it was existed just for for itself. Totally
Speaker 1: rechanged my thinking. And um, you know, I started looking
Speaker 1: around people like Miranda Lambert and she only writes half
Speaker 1: her album if even that, you know, and and Lady
Speaker 1: A and these people at the time, we're like, you know,
Speaker 1: they're collecting great songs. You know, they came to realize
Speaker 1: that after your second album, you can't write an entire album.
Speaker 1: Just did no time in your touring all the time,
Speaker 1: so many of the responsibilities I hadn't know. I was
Speaker 1: married at this point with kids too. So the blue
Speaker 1: Grass record, you know, I was working the guy have
Speaker 1: John randall Um, one of my best friends, and he
Speaker 1: was bringing me great songs from Christofferson and Buddy Miller,
Speaker 1: and just like we started making a collection of of
Speaker 1: an album that had my input but also had songs
Speaker 1: that kind of rounded out what I was trying to
Speaker 1: say or the field of the album. And I carried
Speaker 1: it on with working with Ross Comperman into the next
Speaker 1: couple albums and uh, really trying to make albums that
Speaker 1: don't worry about touring, dorry about anything. Who cares? Just
Speaker 1: make a great record? And U and one of the
Speaker 1: great things. Now I don't know a lister, but wheream
Speaker 1: my careers. There's the better off you are doing touring
Speaker 1: and and the more of you you have those fans
Speaker 1: and more freedom you have to say, who cares, Let's
Speaker 1: make the record you really want to make. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's why Keith is Um is making like his
Speaker 1: best records, Keith Urban's records me just get better and
Speaker 1: better each time because I like he's even more like
Speaker 1: I don't care I'm gonna make great music that makes
Speaker 1: me happy that I like and hopefully you like it too.
Speaker 1: But there's no there's no math behind it. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just totally it's pure arts. And you didn't have
Speaker 1: to worry about where he's gonna get his next meal.
Speaker 1: You know, he's just making great records. And I feel
Speaker 1: like there's on both ends of the spectrum. When you're
Speaker 1: first starting off and you're so hungry, and then when
Speaker 1: you get to place you have a little bit of
Speaker 1: success and you have that freedom that it brings you,
Speaker 1: you can really make your best records, and I feel
Speaker 1: like that's what's happening now. I'm not sure to answer
Speaker 1: your questions, but well, I love him, man. It's hard
Speaker 1: for me to be friends with him because I just
Speaker 1: have so much respect for him. It's like we're good friends,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, like you're Keith Urban, it's
Speaker 1: almost it's almost like why do you This is the
Speaker 1: feeling I have with him because him and I are
Speaker 1: closer than him and than me and other arts, and
Speaker 1: he's one of the guys that I like and we'll
Speaker 1: talk too off the show. But that's like what I was, like,
Speaker 1: why do you want to be friends with me? Eight
Speaker 1: Like you're so smart, and you're so talented, and you're
Speaker 1: so rich, Like everything about you was way better that
Speaker 1: why would you want to be friends with me? That's
Speaker 1: how I feel with him. He is um for me.
Speaker 1: He's like a he's like a beacon. He's someone I
Speaker 1: look up to for advice on just for for lifestyle
Speaker 1: and management and how you approach things. And he's just
Speaker 1: he's so present, which is something I always you know,
Speaker 1: that's my main thing with anything I do, is trying
Speaker 1: to be as president as possible in the moment that
Speaker 1: I'm man, and he really is a true reflection of that.
Speaker 1: I mean when when you speak to him, when you
Speaker 1: talk to him, he's so focused on what you have
Speaker 1: to say. He's listening, and uh, it's very uncommon in
Speaker 1: this business full you know, singers and people are trying
Speaker 1: to look at me, and you know, are have like
Speaker 1: five seconds looking at your eyes and they're kind of
Speaker 1: thinking about the next thing. He's just really focused and
Speaker 1: present and has great advice and it's been through a lot,
Speaker 1: so he can offer a good um good gems. But
Speaker 1: whenever I see him at she's on a Sunday uh,
Speaker 1: and we're doing some with our kids or something, and
Speaker 1: I'm like coming off the road and just beat up
Speaker 1: my brain. His brain is already functioning faster than mind. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm coming off like no sleep, I'm tired. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to make conversation with them, like hopefully's the one day
Speaker 1: and I'm not like just so exhausted, because it'd be
Speaker 1: fun to talk like I have an actually little conversation.
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Speaker 1: do you watch Big Little Liars? Big Little Liars? I
Speaker 1: need to. I know Ross loves it and he's freaking
Speaker 1: out about every time we write. He's like talks about
Speaker 1: it and everyone's talking about us. That's the show. I've
Speaker 1: only seen like half the first episode and it just
Speaker 1: so it hasn't hooked you, you know, I need to
Speaker 1: get it. Took me two episodes. Yeah, I've seen it
Speaker 1: all now. I know. I don't tell how many to
Speaker 1: see it. I want to tell you I'm not you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm just watching. I'm just not watching Friday Lights,
Speaker 1: which is like ten years old. I've never so good,
Speaker 1: but I'm so and I would like. It takes while
Speaker 1: to get into things like that's that's a ten year
Speaker 1: old show. I'm just not getting to it, but I
Speaker 1: not think I would love it. But it's like there
Speaker 1: are so many new good thou right now. I know,
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. We're good friends of Connie. She's like a
Speaker 1: good friend of ours, and my wife and Connie are
Speaker 1: great friends, and she's just one of my favorite people.
Speaker 1: And always feel so bad they hadn't really seen that
Speaker 1: show because it's so good and she's her acting that
Speaker 1: is just unbelievable. But yeah, I need to check out
Speaker 1: Big Little Lies. It's it's incredible, right, So it's really
Speaker 1: it's really good. But it's weird because again I've gotten
Speaker 1: to know Nicole a bit, but it's weird to se
Speaker 1: your neck on TV and something I gotta feel weird.
Speaker 1: I feel like I should turn my head when I
Speaker 1: because I'm like, she's she's an actress. Bro, that's what
Speaker 1: they do. Man, They're able to somehow. They're just that's
Speaker 1: then their their body is just a tool to use
Speaker 1: to project their art. Man. They don't look at it
Speaker 1: like we do. But again I do. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: do feel that way. And man, it's just it's the
Speaker 1: whole thing is weird for me. Yeah, well that's weird
Speaker 1: for her. So what about like, Okay, so let's the
Speaker 1: music video. You got another girl in me video? That's
Speaker 1: not your why it's weird for me. I'm not an
Speaker 1: actor though, but I'm talking about the acting part. Like,
Speaker 1: what about like that? I'll say funny so funny story, Um,
Speaker 1: there's I had a song called trying to Stop Your
Speaker 1: Leaving um, and I did it with Trey fan Joy.
Speaker 1: It was a great friend of ours, great data director.
Speaker 1: And we're shooting over on Chantanooga and my I just
Speaker 1: got married. My wife's on the bus and I was
Speaker 1: in there for the first shoot. All is a five
Speaker 1: third in the morning and it's like two story motel
Speaker 1: at the middle of the outside of Shantanooga and I'm
Speaker 1: in there. There's the girls in there, and Cassie comes
Speaker 1: and I told her to bring some clothing off the
Speaker 1: bus and to wear it. She comes in and Tray goes, oh, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this first thing is just gonna be boxers. And my
Speaker 1: wife's like my new wife is like okay, and she
Speaker 1: walks out and goes back in the bus and Trey goes,
Speaker 1: dirks and this girl high, nice to meet you. How
Speaker 1: you doing. There's like three dudes around, like those kind
Speaker 1: of like porn cameras, you know, just like the smallest
Speaker 1: bill coming and like in this shady like kind of
Speaker 1: pastel floral bedspread, kind of a motel place. Dirk's this
Speaker 1: doesn't come a little closer. This isn't raining on Sunday.
Speaker 1: This is effing all right, and she put on lives Zeppelin,
Speaker 1: go I'm with this girl. I just got married. She's like,
Speaker 1: you know, in trade, it's like, okay, if you're not
Speaker 1: gonna kiss her, well you lick his lick his chest
Speaker 1: and look at like up towards his neck, so like
Speaker 1: she's this girl is like licking me and I'm just
Speaker 1: like I'm not trying to do anything, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: because I gotta go right back in the bus and
Speaker 1: tell my wife what just happened. You know, I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lie about this is gonna be on TV.
Speaker 1: Come back in the bus, and it's like, so, how'd
Speaker 1: that go? I'm like, well, yeah, it was. It was something.
Speaker 1: And I think that was one of the last videos
Speaker 1: I did where it's not I'm all. I'll do whatever
Speaker 1: it takes to help to help the song, not commercially,
Speaker 1: but just the story. You know, the song is all
Speaker 1: that matters in this towns all that matters me. And
Speaker 1: there's a video that that can help tell that story
Speaker 1: about it, and I'll do whatever it takes. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll go anywhere, do anything. But I'm just not an actor.
Speaker 1: And if you look at keys videos, just recently did
Speaker 1: he start kind of going back into some acting stuff.
Speaker 1: For many, many, many years, Keith would just play guitar
Speaker 1: and let the actors do the acting, let the singer
Speaker 1: to the singing and make a great story video, not
Speaker 1: trying to do the whole thing. And I don't respect
Speaker 1: to that. And it makes sense because I'm not very
Speaker 1: very good actor. If there's a hot girl licking your
Speaker 1: neck and you're in your boxers like band aids. But
Speaker 1: how do you constill your pasties? You know what? Just
Speaker 1: mind control Jedi mind contro But I don't have I
Speaker 1: don't have it. I have it, I know no. And
Speaker 1: that's it's like I'm just have to like baseball, baseball, baseball.
Speaker 1: It's total, just like it's Jedi mind control. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I can't let it happen. I have some
Speaker 1: songs here, Oh man, there's a play some other stuff.
Speaker 1: How about this one right here? Put that cross my
Speaker 1: mind a little, dude, because I was thinking. First thought
Speaker 1: that comes when you hear this up here, Red reverse Um,
Speaker 1: great song right here in town. Really, without Bread, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have anything. He Um really took me under his
Speaker 1: wing as a writer, and I learned so much from
Speaker 1: Bread about writing. And this was back when like when
Speaker 1: we had like the shoe box tape recorders, you know,
Speaker 1: and and pen and paper, and he told me how
Speaker 1: to write. One of the things he thought was just
Speaker 1: to think out loud on paper, don't talk the whole
Speaker 1: time when you're writing songs with somebody, Just to work
Speaker 1: on something when you got an idea. Maybe. But I
Speaker 1: remember playing that for Autumn House, who was an A
Speaker 1: R at a Capital. I found her outside exit and
Speaker 1: I got my guitar, ran out to her exit in
Speaker 1: she came out of there. I sat it down on
Speaker 1: my tailgate, play her that song acoustically. I was going
Speaker 1: to the studio the next day, and she's like, cut
Speaker 1: that song. That's so you run out to some prominent
Speaker 1: person here in town, say hey, stop and have her
Speaker 1: watch you sing a song. She's A and R. She
Speaker 1: still is over Capitol Records, and uh, and I she
Speaker 1: was in the club, I think, exited and hearing listen
Speaker 1: to somebody. I texted her art and text I called
Speaker 1: her and she met me outside and I played it
Speaker 1: for acoustically, like outside the club. And because I thought
Speaker 1: it was it could be a big hit. Oddly enough,
Speaker 1: I fought really hard for that not to be the
Speaker 1: first single. So what did you want to be? The
Speaker 1: first song called Wish You Would Break, which is more
Speaker 1: of a country thing. Um, you know, it's about your
Speaker 1: wishing your your car steroid break because if you saw
Speaker 1: and plays, you minded your girl wishing this picture frame
Speaker 1: would break that keeps falling down, but you don't have
Speaker 1: the heart to throw it away because it's the pictures
Speaker 1: of two y'all. In the last verse is about wishing
Speaker 1: your heart breaks you just move on. It's a great song.
Speaker 1: And I wrote that with Brett but Duncan Mike Dungan
Speaker 1: from capitals like we're going with was I thinking so?
Speaker 1: And you're glad it did? Yeah? All right, here we go,
Speaker 1: come a little closer. What makes me hear that song
Speaker 1: makes me think Jesney I wrote that Brett Beavers, but
Speaker 1: Chesney said that was a song that um when you
Speaker 1: heard that come in the radio, that's the reason why
Speaker 1: he took me back out on the road. And again, man,
Speaker 1: and you do so many hey people will do this
Speaker 1: to me too, But I haven't heard that. I want
Speaker 1: to play this song a lot anymore. So I love
Speaker 1: hearing that. It's a great song. You don't play talking.
Speaker 1: It's a little slow. Can you say a little slow
Speaker 1: because you feel like it takes the crowd down. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta make a roller coaster out there when you're
Speaker 1: you gotta find a way to take people on a ride.
Speaker 1: And you can only have you gotta pick your You know,
Speaker 1: our show is so high energy, and that's but what
Speaker 1: makes to show great is what makes those high energy
Speaker 1: songs work is the real moments and and and that.
Speaker 1: Then you can only have so many in that song.
Speaker 1: Just there's just no room for that one right now?
Speaker 1: All right? How I had this one man's part of
Speaker 1: my favorite songs. Another song. I don't do the live
Speaker 1: show anymore, but I do it usually earlier than night
Speaker 1: in the acoustics show. But when I think of that video,
Speaker 1: and I think that song with the video for it,
Speaker 1: because there's a scene where I'm getting rained on by
Speaker 1: the rain machine and there but you can tell there's
Speaker 1: no other rain like anywhere else just coming on. It's
Speaker 1: like the cartoon whenever it's such a great video, there's
Speaker 1: just that one moment because you know, if you're you
Speaker 1: care so much about the work you do, you're like
Speaker 1: that one scene drives you crazy. But Chris Sticky do
Speaker 1: that video. It's actually when the best videos we ever did.
Speaker 1: And uh, that song is um. I love that song
Speaker 1: and it's one of my favorite songs. But I usually
Speaker 1: do it. I do a pre show acoustic performance for
Speaker 1: some folks and I usually I'm doing that song. It's
Speaker 1: a good one. I to watch John May a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, I know how was that I was
Speaker 1: speaking to boners. Did you get one? I did move
Speaker 1: a little bit through one at the whole time, the
Speaker 1: whole day. It wasn't picture moved. It was fully the
Speaker 1: It was like by act yeah, And so I went,
Speaker 1: non't know my point where I was gonna get so funny, dude,
Speaker 1: I had a genuinely had a but you went to
Speaker 1: John Mayor, come so first, slow down. It was moments
Speaker 1: I come back to it. I have no idea what
Speaker 1: I was like, I had a point. He did he
Speaker 1: did who? I don't know? Talking about this song. I
Speaker 1: wrote that song and launched the Blown the same day
Speaker 1: with Brett Pevers and Gonna Steve Bogarten. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a great song. I would say it's one of the
Speaker 1: songs that he could say more. I mean if I
Speaker 1: was you know, it was a number one, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't like a that was a lead single off an
Speaker 1: album and it just wouldn't do much. But people still
Speaker 1: love that song. I still do it live. But I
Speaker 1: used that song for a lot of video content of
Speaker 1: like our life on the Road. But that's a song
Speaker 1: that if I'm being totally honest and critiquing myself I
Speaker 1: just didn't say enough. You know. The verses need to
Speaker 1: be more specific and more biting and more personal and
Speaker 1: more um telling of who you are or the story
Speaker 1: you're trying to tell and just not so um interchangeable,
Speaker 1: so that that I love that song, but that I
Speaker 1: was listening to. That's one thing. Every song you put
Speaker 1: out I put up in this one on has to
Speaker 1: be like say something really impact for or you know,
Speaker 1: every line has to be just perfect. I know what
Speaker 1: it is everyone. It was. So I went to John
Speaker 1: Mayer and he had these packages. He was that they
Speaker 1: sell right, and it was like, I didn't buy one
Speaker 1: of them. I'm lucky. Yeah, I got to go hang
Speaker 1: out and so but it was like, if you're a
Speaker 1: super fan, you could pay like bucks and you could
Speaker 1: go walk back still age and get like a banana
Speaker 1: and touch John's I don't know what do you do?
Speaker 1: Is there a little tour but you to see stuff
Speaker 1: it's yes, child guitar and you pay hundred dollars to
Speaker 1: do that and then you get you meet it me.
Speaker 1: Whatever do you do that part of it where you're
Speaker 1: like pay because it is worth something to get the experience.
Speaker 1: We do a thing where you pay extra hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: but you're paying. You come back to the rooms. You
Speaker 1: get you get to come in before anybody else. There's
Speaker 1: beer and alcohol and some food. And I've seen that room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's like a little photo booth charge more. I
Speaker 1: saw people just paying money out the butt for mayor.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a tough thing, you don't. You want
Speaker 1: to keep your ticket prices as low as possible, and
Speaker 1: and and and that's the whole thing out there. Like
Speaker 1: one thing is they still think about Garth Brooks is
Speaker 1: low ticket prices. Man, it's the coolest thing. You want
Speaker 1: to keep low. But that's not the ticket though. That's
Speaker 1: what that's for the rich. But but if you want
Speaker 1: to like, yeah, if you want to, like you know,
Speaker 1: if I go to see if I go to see
Speaker 1: you two or something that they offered like some sort
Speaker 1: of like backstage thing, I would want that because I'm
Speaker 1: a super fan, you know. Um. But yeah, it's and
Speaker 1: I think the fans that one. It's a cool deal
Speaker 1: because we we we do a lot. I used to
Speaker 1: be just be by myself on guitar. But the guys
Speaker 1: in my band, they're sitting around there, like one guy
Speaker 1: I've been started playing with me on the guitar because
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't have anything to do, and I'd
Speaker 1: love to go pick. And then Cassie came out and
Speaker 1: started playing bass and and a kick drum, and then
Speaker 1: Dan bars fiddle. It's like a full show. Now we
Speaker 1: play like forty minutes. It's like a really fun Why
Speaker 1: your voice it sucks on Monday, You're playing six shows
Speaker 1: in three days. Yeah, well yeah, we're and we do
Speaker 1: a lot of backstage just kind of playing as well,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of fried. But it's for them. It's
Speaker 1: really fun. It's really it's it's what's cool about it's
Speaker 1: it's acoustic. Um, I mean it's plugged into it's acoustic,
Speaker 1: and it's I'm taking requests. We're telling jokes and telling stories,
Speaker 1: and it's it's long. It's my it's only supposed to
Speaker 1: be fifte minutes, depends up being like sometimes in thirty
Speaker 1: forty minutes. Yeah. I know in the Nashville show, you
Speaker 1: got really sick before the show, and yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1: I think I can't. No, I did the acoustic thing
Speaker 1: that night, but it was a little bit of a stretch.
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say. I was just like, how
Speaker 1: do you do? Because I remember talking to you before
Speaker 1: the show and you're like, I have literally have an
Speaker 1: ivy bag. You took a picture of that. You had water,
Speaker 1: you were hooked up. Yeah, the needle in you. I
Speaker 1: did an ivy and a steroid at twelve and the
Speaker 1: start at at six. It's like, you're worst nightmare. Like
Speaker 1: you just play Nashville, playing your hometown show, and it's
Speaker 1: like to have no voice. It's it was. It makes
Speaker 1: me like get the gs. Just thinking about that moment
Speaker 1: end up being a great night. It was such soil
Speaker 1: cathartic that actually, when your voice starts working, you're like, Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it. This is gonna happen. But leading
Speaker 1: up to the whole day was it was terrible. But
Speaker 1: I was able to do the acoustic deal and I
Speaker 1: said to cancel some ingreets and stuff. My cow louds
Speaker 1: the mower coming through the microphones. You can't there's there's
Speaker 1: something where my house. So it's and my name listen,
Speaker 1: what would you do in the situation? That's great? Views
Speaker 1: up here by the way, Yeah, this is the cool.
Speaker 1: It's the top floor, so it's cool. Yeah. So but
Speaker 1: my neighbor, I'm gonna tell you, what would you do
Speaker 1: in this situation. I don't know if you have neighbors
Speaker 1: that you say. I got neighbors broken. So the a
Speaker 1: trash cans and they're this neighbor. I live in a
Speaker 1: nice house, but this neighborhood is still growing, so it's
Speaker 1: all different kinds of houses and so they're in no
Speaker 1: h a cause it's not like a super great neighborhood. No.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love where you lives. You're just part
Speaker 1: of the gang over here. Yeah, so I'm just part
Speaker 1: of the crew. I thought there might be a gate
Speaker 1: or something. There wasn't. There wasn't. There was one point
Speaker 1: Attigaate at one point when I moved here, they maybe
Speaker 1: and have a security, a secured place in my contract
Speaker 1: because if you know, just getting jumped. So I lived
Speaker 1: there and I lived downtown and place flooded. Let me
Speaker 1: get to my point here. My girlfriend was out and
Speaker 1: my neighbor comes over to the house and starts knocks
Speaker 1: on the door, and Lindsay's here and she's like, yeah, hello,
Speaker 1: how your trash cans are they? When when it storms
Speaker 1: they dump over And so there's like cardboard and we
Speaker 1: don't like that. So she was like, okay, great. So
Speaker 1: my girlfriend like gets bungee cables and straps them to
Speaker 1: the wood and liked whatever. So then my neighbor has
Speaker 1: sends a note to her because she gives her. She's like, hey,
Speaker 1: if you need anything, here's my cell phone number right there.
Speaker 1: And so my neighbors in the text of her going hey,
Speaker 1: do you need a lawn service? And I was like,
Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me. She texted the neighbor text lindsay, no,
Speaker 1: we're good. Thanks. What would you have done? Because my listen,
Speaker 1: my y'all wasn't in the best shape, but it was
Speaker 1: just now lawnmowing time. Dude. I would let that grow.
Speaker 1: I would just let it grow. What are you talking
Speaker 1: about me that she talked me out of it? That
Speaker 1: would really? That would that would not That would not
Speaker 1: sit well with me, Like, just you do you, I'll
Speaker 1: do me. And my dog has to have a backyard too,
Speaker 1: so I thought about bulling like one little square for
Speaker 1: him and letting the rest grow up. But you know,
Speaker 1: everybody kind of leaves everybody alone over here. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: thanks Mike, Do you is that a weird thing? For
Speaker 1: you that people know where Dark Smiley lives. You know. Um,
Speaker 1: I struggled that a little bit. But it's it's all good.
Speaker 1: I mean country music fans are so we're lucky. Not fans, neighbors.
Speaker 1: Uh no, we're pretty I'm walking my dogs and because
Speaker 1: of riding the street and everyone's everyone's pretty cool about it. Mean,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's no, it's not problem for me. Was famous.
Speaker 1: Um no, big gate. I've never been over. The people
Speaker 1: say I should get a gate, but I don't have
Speaker 1: a gate. M Yeah, your kids will have to have
Speaker 1: like go carts. Get the buses drive by a little
Speaker 1: bit of stuff like that. Like what buses it's country
Speaker 1: and Western tour buses. They come by your house and
Speaker 1: say that's where. Oh no, I mused to be like
Speaker 1: six seven times a day out. I don't think they
Speaker 1: can get around up here, but yeah they can by
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, there's those folks in there.
Speaker 1: It's all good. It is all good. N I like,
Speaker 1: our listeners are the greatest, but it's when you get
Speaker 1: the one point the point one percent of person who Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I should say too. I have a lot of
Speaker 1: security features and I have guns as well. Too. I
Speaker 1: mean we're we're recording stuff. I can't believe these things
Speaker 1: drive by your house. Like I would call them at
Speaker 1: their work and be like, hey, listen, no, let's not
Speaker 1: do this. There's a time I was you got those
Speaker 1: thoughts like gonna put like nails in the road or
Speaker 1: somebody that's no, I never had that thought. I never
Speaker 1: had all put nails in the road. Well I have,
Speaker 1: I've gone, I've gone, I'm gone drive for a place
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Speaker 1: five dollars, you can have some web piers to pool water?
Speaker 1: So does that? You know this doesn't work out for me?
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Speaker 1: Do you ever? Do you put the kids launches together? Ever?
Speaker 1: H my wife does does launches the morning? Or did
Speaker 1: me tag team? This is as a it's a full
Speaker 1: on tag team session in the morning, so everyone's kind
Speaker 1: of a little bit everything, But it seems like she
Speaker 1: usually makes the PB and J sandwich. What's it too?
Speaker 1: Because everybody knows you as the guy that does the music.
Speaker 1: But what's a Tuesday like for you? Get up at
Speaker 1: four forty four, gives me one minute to give me
Speaker 1: thirty seconds complain and and talk about I don't want
Speaker 1: to get up, and gives me thirty seconds to actually
Speaker 1: start think about the positives of how I feel after
Speaker 1: I work out. I go the gym do a group
Speaker 1: workout from five to do a group work out. Do
Speaker 1: people stare at you and go there's exper I don't know,
Speaker 1: that's all. No one cares. I mean, it's all it's
Speaker 1: all good, good. Everyone's there. People are working at five
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. They don't care who I am
Speaker 1: there there how you said like, I want to tell
Speaker 1: a yoga glasses now, and I was terrible. I'm terrible
Speaker 1: yoga right at three of you. I'm embarrassed because I'm
Speaker 1: not good at it. Three people coming to me and
Speaker 1: be like, hey, five, we're doing you know, And I'm
Speaker 1: just humiliated because they were watching. They maybe you just
Speaker 1: don't know. No, I don't that, you know. It's all.
Speaker 1: It's all just regular people and no one. Again, it's
Speaker 1: five o'clock the morning. These people are not they're there
Speaker 1: to work out. They're not really that Danish and who
Speaker 1: else is there. It's a really hard workout. It's freaking exhausting.
Speaker 1: I get home and I, you know, hopefully everyone's still
Speaker 1: asleep because they need to be sleep. But my house
Speaker 1: always has gotten up so early, and uh, we just
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get that morning time. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like that's kind of some people that family dinner.
Speaker 1: For us, like breakfast is like the time we're most
Speaker 1: together doing stuff and and you know, just trying to
Speaker 1: it's a dance with the food and the dogs and
Speaker 1: just trying to make the morning great and get the
Speaker 1: door in positive spirits and get those guys off to school.
Speaker 1: And then I come back and start working on stuff.
Speaker 1: But what does that mean? Working on steps writing songs
Speaker 1: and right, no, I'm trying to work on the record.
Speaker 1: So I'm writing with like tomorrom right with Casey Bethard
Speaker 1: and Jaren Johnson and but you know, uh and just
Speaker 1: trying to catch up on on life that I've missed
Speaker 1: from being from being down the road. Um, so that's
Speaker 1: pretty much what Tuesday morning looks like, you know. Then
Speaker 1: and trying to catch with cast too, you know, doing
Speaker 1: stuff with her, just dumb stuff. I don't know. It
Speaker 1: was running errands, you know, gonna do some more groceries
Speaker 1: or stuff. I don't know, take him someone's shoes get
Speaker 1: fixed the shoe store. Uh, just stuff, man, will you
Speaker 1: right with somebody else for them? At this point, or
Speaker 1: you just right for yourself? I just right for myself.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm I think enough writer, right for
Speaker 1: the people. I'd love to get a cut from somebody else,
Speaker 1: but I think, hey, when I see someone else right,
Speaker 1: when I see another artist name on a song, my
Speaker 1: first thought is like, how come this song wasn't good
Speaker 1: enough for you? But you're pitching up to me, you know?
Speaker 1: And second I don't. I just don't all the time.
Speaker 1: And I don't think I mean from Ryan. With guys
Speaker 1: like John Knight and Ross comprom every day, I'm sure
Speaker 1: I could get something cut by somebody else because those
Speaker 1: guys are on fire. But I just right for me,
Speaker 1: I asked, because I guess three or four days ago
Speaker 1: you text them like, hey, let's that's right, let's me
Speaker 1: and you right? And I was like, what did I say?
Speaker 1: You can test exactly what I said back to you.
Speaker 1: You said, hey, let's write. What was my response? He said, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not good enough for somebody, And I said, I
Speaker 1: don't deserve to have to sit and write with Dirks
Speaker 1: and Ross. That's that's the only do anything. I would
Speaker 1: never I only do stuff now at this point my
Speaker 1: career that like interests me excited, excise me. It's fun.
Speaker 1: And the idea of you mean, Ross in a room
Speaker 1: running would just be really fun because he's such a
Speaker 1: positive guy. Some people in this town that you could
Speaker 1: write like that's what I was like. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't think we could get something really great. Maybe
Speaker 1: really we could get something really good, but I don't
Speaker 1: deserve that. It's not about deserve. Of course you deserve it.
Speaker 1: You don't. We don't. We don't deserve anything we're doing.
Speaker 1: We're doing well, we work for and make it happen.
Speaker 1: And our Jake mom where fight? I Oh, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? You deserve to be that? I would
Speaker 1: you not deserve to be in that room because not
Speaker 1: to do that, I mean you're on stage by yourself
Speaker 1: doing comedy, which is probably sounds like the living like
Speaker 1: that sounds like hell to me. It sounds like like
Speaker 1: my dad, sound like hill, do you stuff before you
Speaker 1: want to do? And I was like, dude, come out,
Speaker 1: you can never do that. I had tell to the
Speaker 1: jokes on stage and they usually bomb and I usually say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll get back to this thing, thanks for listening. So
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know. I don't think this
Speaker 1: matter deserves it does a matter of it would be fun.
Speaker 1: You say you're a you two super fan. How is
Speaker 1: that your favorite band? I think it is. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think there's my favorite band. What's your I have a rule?
Speaker 1: Your favorite bank, your favorite song for them? Can't be
Speaker 1: a huge radio song. Oh gosh on Earth? No no, no,
Speaker 1: I asked much favorite song? I shouldn't told you the
Speaker 1: rule before I told you the Probably a song called
Speaker 1: peace on Earth? Why? Um, that's just how it's kind
Speaker 1: of a really morbid song, but it's just about how
Speaker 1: there's never really will be peace on Earth. I got
Speaker 1: it all up here, I have whatever whatever. That's my
Speaker 1: favorite record right there? From man we get on this computer.
Speaker 1: I gotta going through Alexa right now? You have an Alexa.
Speaker 1: Kite is so good to go? Let's play kite? Well,
Speaker 1: hold on, it's like a song for your kids, Mike,
Speaker 1: what's happening over here? But what what? But did I
Speaker 1: not push right this computer? That's playing a little bit?
Speaker 1: Can you hear it? Oh? There it is? Is that
Speaker 1: Peace on Earth? I had the volumes too. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: if I had to pick on that list or there
Speaker 1: would probably be it would probably be Kupe. This is
Speaker 1: a later YouTube record though, and this is your favorite
Speaker 1: hut because I remember playing this on the way told
Speaker 1: me like I have to go back and I mean cool,
Speaker 1: I mean so good. Yeah, I don't love about them.
Speaker 1: It's just their energy as a band, and you watch
Speaker 1: them play, it's like how many shows you been too?
Speaker 1: Not that many? I'm five us probably been at four. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he said my name at the National show. I had
Speaker 1: dinner with them the night before. Oh wow, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: pretty Uh, it's pretty amazing. Let's do this because we
Speaker 1: do this on the show, the biggest name dropper story,
Speaker 1: because I don't know if it's bigger than Bono, So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna that one does not count because
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear more about that. But let's take
Speaker 1: Bonno out of the names. Yeah, biggest name dropper story.
Speaker 1: Um gosh, man, I mean I don't have that many
Speaker 1: famous like no, no, the what you do you have
Speaker 1: to I have coins? I mean give me like one
Speaker 1: of yours. Let me think about her saying like, um, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll give you as you think about it. So I
Speaker 1: went to yeah, I don't care. I've talked about. I
Speaker 1: went to Augusta with John Legend. Yeah, and we still
Speaker 1: you know, there were four of us and it was
Speaker 1: me Andy Erotic, John Legend and another buddy. But we
Speaker 1: just we was there for two days hanging out watching
Speaker 1: golf and I was and I don't I mentioned it
Speaker 1: because I don't like but it's that's a pretty cool.
Speaker 1: And we sat around the house for two days hanging out.
Speaker 1: I had had a glass of wine with Phil Mickelson
Speaker 1: one time with the golf and um, then that's not
Speaker 1: that's not that called Peyton Manning is a friend that
Speaker 1: account that's cool friends. I went fishing. I went fishing
Speaker 1: all day long with Peyton Manning up in a northern
Speaker 1: uh Canada but British Columbia. We fished for like gigantic
Speaker 1: fish for half the day. So that'd be my biggest
Speaker 1: Probably what's Manning like? He's totally cool? Yes, So he's
Speaker 1: just like the guy on the Papa John's commercial. Man
Speaker 1: He's like laid back and funny and good stories and
Speaker 1: easy to be around. And I had dinner with Eli
Speaker 1: once at Peyton super Bowl, which one in Miami. I
Speaker 1: went Archie, Eli and and Cooper because Peyton was playing,
Speaker 1: and so we went and had dinner the night before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I just remember Eli being so big and like
Speaker 1: he doesn't look big on TV's those are monsters, I
Speaker 1: mean Peyton's monster. Peyton. So and we actually watched the
Speaker 1: very first game of the year this last year with
Speaker 1: Peyton in a suite in Denver and we were watching
Speaker 1: it was so, you guys are real friend, like you
Speaker 1: would call Peyton? Yeah, I texted the moment. Yeah. Do
Speaker 1: you still get nervous texting him? No, like like he's
Speaker 1: gonna judge you, Like your text has to be right on. No, No,
Speaker 1: I do not. I know because there are a couple
Speaker 1: people I feel like that with them, like oh right,
Speaker 1: timing don't do too often? And do you respond to
Speaker 1: their texts? There? You know you right back right away?
Speaker 1: Give it a second or you respond knowing the knockna
Speaker 1: respond back? That's okay because you're kind of in feor
Speaker 1: in this relationship. Um, that's a funny one though, Like
Speaker 1: who do you have that relate because I can tell
Speaker 1: your mind too, Like, who do you have that relationship
Speaker 1: with where it's like I have their number? Well, certainly
Speaker 1: with him with with with Bono, I like, I texted him,
Speaker 1: I mean I used to like that's another one. Like
Speaker 1: I kind of kind of manifested that meeting him because
Speaker 1: I used to like carry. I saw him the one
Speaker 1: time in all places in Hawaii. I finished and he
Speaker 1: went saw Pearl jam And and Youtuboe together in Hawaii
Speaker 1: with the same show. Yeah. It was in two thousand seven,
Speaker 1: and I had had a CD in my back and
Speaker 1: my jeans because I was like, I know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pitch in this song because I want to
Speaker 1: get what you wanted to pitch a song sing on
Speaker 1: my record. Yeah, and I finally made that. I actually
Speaker 1: finally Uh there's a song on my last record called
Speaker 1: Here on Earth. And I sent to him and he
Speaker 1: wrote back, this is a you know, he's one of
Speaker 1: those guys who can just say like in in three lines,
Speaker 1: every line is like so profound, it's like so well
Speaker 1: written and just he's on a different level. And I
Speaker 1: of course emailed back this long thing, but hey, we're
Speaker 1: coming to Ireland's go to go to We'll go to
Speaker 1: a pub and all this stuff, beerds and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't get that response, but he's I think he's
Speaker 1: pretty busy, but um, yeah, those I know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Give me one more because it's like you
Speaker 1: have to look at the time on your clock and
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, you figure if he didn't do with
Speaker 1: his family, well a text bothers in here with his family,
Speaker 1: does he even want to hear from me? I know, like, like,
Speaker 1: h we're just talking about We're just talking about family
Speaker 1: supper on the road yesterday. But Steve ms Mar drummer,
Speaker 1: He's like, I think I've kind of fan girl James
Speaker 1: Neal a little too much. Who's the hockey player for
Speaker 1: the Preds. He's like, yeah, I'm kind of like I
Speaker 1: don't know him that well. And I keep texting like
Speaker 1: you're so awesome, and he's like, I think I got
Speaker 1: it back off a little bit. It's like, yeah, let
Speaker 1: me texting. I texted me like he run me back.
Speaker 1: But yeah, everyone is guilty of that too a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I can't think of nobody else. You're gonna add
Speaker 1: it us? No, I'm trying to, man, I'm I'm terrible
Speaker 1: text me. I've been like bought a flip phone. I
Speaker 1: love iPhones and I love Apple and we live for him.
Speaker 1: But I'm like that's why I paying how much I
Speaker 1: love your show. Like this is such a gretit of
Speaker 1: this podcast because I'm good. I've been like trying to
Speaker 1: do like one day week when I'm just on my
Speaker 1: flipphone for the whole day and it's so hard. But
Speaker 1: it's just like I am so over, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a love hey relationship with the technology was texting and
Speaker 1: I text so many people, but like that's not really
Speaker 1: is that really? And maybe we're keeping up, but is
Speaker 1: that really? I don't have an hour conversation with somebody
Speaker 1: to have, like a real conversation is better than nothing
Speaker 1: because at the pace that you're going and people always
Speaker 1: go out, phones are one of our phones actually keeping
Speaker 1: us two people that we would never talk to, but
Speaker 1: I do. So I have kids now to this, so
Speaker 1: I know there's guys out there and Silkon Valley their geniuses.
Speaker 1: It's been their whole lives to thinking about it. How
Speaker 1: can I make an eight year old completely addicted to
Speaker 1: this device? And these are smart, smart people working with
Speaker 1: unlimited funds and on their coding all the time. And
Speaker 1: my daughter gets on an iPad and it's completely hooked
Speaker 1: at some game and She's just an experiment. These people
Speaker 1: the same Instagram and stuff they got going on where
Speaker 1: you're trying to keep the streak alive. You know how
Speaker 1: many days in a row if you texted this you
Speaker 1: know whatever Instagram this person. It's like it's all geared
Speaker 1: towards where we grew up without this stuff, so our
Speaker 1: brains had a chance to function. But when you see
Speaker 1: it through your kids and how it's just not right. Man.
Speaker 1: So I have to lead by example. If I have
Speaker 1: my phone out, it just takes once once or your
Speaker 1: times so your kid to go dad, you know, so sorry,
Speaker 1: you just feel like the worst person. So I don't
Speaker 1: even take that phone in the house, Like I just
Speaker 1: I'm all, I have a flip phone. My wife has
Speaker 1: the number, Mary has the number, and it's like anyone
Speaker 1: needs me and my wife, you know, they can get
Speaker 1: touched me. But it's the freedom is unbelievable. But yeah,
Speaker 1: as far as friends go, you know, I've been emailing more.
Speaker 1: I just like I am better off on email. I
Speaker 1: will write longer emails. Just do it through that because
Speaker 1: I gotta sit down and not just constantly just like
Speaker 1: on that thing. Drist me crazy? Do your kids doing
Speaker 1: to bring it today. I'm to bring my flipphone, but
Speaker 1: I forgot it. They do and that purchases like where
Speaker 1: they buy the things inside the game, and then you
Speaker 1: get the bill and you're like whoa. And then then
Speaker 1: then they don't do I pad. The only get iPads
Speaker 1: on weekends and not that much. But bill very everything
Speaker 1: has to come through me, so I think I'll have
Speaker 1: to prove whatever if she gets there's no buying anything.
Speaker 1: It's just these little games they buy. They get for
Speaker 1: free that these people out there pumping, and then they
Speaker 1: they want to buy on stuff inside of it. We
Speaker 1: don't do that, but it's scary. Man. I hate it.
Speaker 1: I hate it for kids, man, I wis they could
Speaker 1: grew up in a place we had the same thing
Speaker 1: that our parents were thinking us, like, look at these
Speaker 1: guys are cordless phones different? But it's different. It's just
Speaker 1: like the music. Everybody's like, well the music is different,
Speaker 1: but with the phone, man, the technology wasn't changing every day.
Speaker 1: Every single day. They're doing software updates on your phone
Speaker 1: to make it more addictive every day. Every there's guys,
Speaker 1: right now, you're just you're not Bobby Bones. You're experimental.
Speaker 1: Five six seven to this dude, like everybody buying your record,
Speaker 1: and so is everybody that's streaming your music. They are too.
Speaker 1: We're all looking at data from everything else and creating
Speaker 1: our own lives from No. But man, I don't know
Speaker 1: that's I just that's what I love this podcast. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's just so much better than the texting Man.
Speaker 1: And did you listen to the Ross Compermanent the whole thing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is funny. I like that. I love I learned
Speaker 1: what I learned more about Ross from your podcast, and
Speaker 1: I I've doing Ross now since, you know, since I
Speaker 1: got Tipping on back. I mean, I learned more from
Speaker 1: that that interview. It's great. I mean that's what I've
Speaker 1: been doing in my truck now. I was just driving
Speaker 1: and listen to your podcast and telling about Tim Ferris
Speaker 1: and some other people. It's like these it's such I
Speaker 1: need to retool my brain because it's getting it's bad,
Speaker 1: especially if you're a musician on the road. I mean,
Speaker 1: the damn iPhone. It's just like you. We have a
Speaker 1: a funny Instagram hashtag called band band members on phones,
Speaker 1: and it's just like I took one to day from
Speaker 1: We're up with this beautiful landscape in the middle of
Speaker 1: South Dakota and the Black Hills and take a self
Speaker 1: timer shot and to my guys are on their phone.
Speaker 1: It's like we look around for one second, but it's
Speaker 1: just you know, you're eating dinner, catering and just like,
Speaker 1: but think of all the relationships you keep it because
Speaker 1: of Derek Jeter's dating Madonna. That's cool. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I know stuff. I don't want to know it,
Speaker 1: not anybody else. I don't want to know what it's
Speaker 1: going on. I want to know, like what's happening to
Speaker 1: people that I care about. So I don't know. I
Speaker 1: gotta My relationship with technology is really something has to
Speaker 1: be maintained all the time, especially once you get kids.
Speaker 1: It really it's like that's the different story. I can't
Speaker 1: argue about the kids I have. Any kids. You don't
Speaker 1: want him on it, dude, especially girls. That's just I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a fair medium for for girls in general,
Speaker 1: all the dating apps and stuff. It's just who else,
Speaker 1: Let's stay out of the format because you get into
Speaker 1: a little mess here when you go, okay, who do
Speaker 1: you look? Who else do you listen to? Out of
Speaker 1: the pot so you love you too? Who else you like?
Speaker 1: I mean, Bruno mars Is, He's guy's unbelievable. Why is
Speaker 1: he unbelievable to you? He just has more talent. I
Speaker 1: mean for performance wise, the guy just has He's just
Speaker 1: so good. You know, the rest of us up there's
Speaker 1: country singers up on stage without our guitars and doing stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to feel the flow of a song,
Speaker 1: and he's just like in his pinky just he has
Speaker 1: more moves right there than the rest of us have. Like,
Speaker 1: this guy's got it, man, and his songs are so good. Man.
Speaker 1: There was a time he came into our show six
Speaker 1: years ago, right and so not there you talking about.
Speaker 1: So he was doing the bit where he could do
Speaker 1: any song period. He was like his name of song
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, I have tiger and he
Speaker 1: plays a lot of the tigers. He's like what else?
Speaker 1: So he's a jukebox jew box and he did uh
Speaker 1: Tina Turner and he was just nailing him and I
Speaker 1: was and I was like, dude, what's what's he's like? Well,
Speaker 1: because he grew up in a family bands, he was
Speaker 1: like the youngest kid and they were like all his
Speaker 1: whole family. They were all a band. He was like,
Speaker 1: they're like an Elvis impersonators, and so he had all
Speaker 1: the skill set and he's also super good and super smart.
Speaker 1: And he's like, do you do the Disney school stuff?
Speaker 1: Did you go to that like that? I don't think
Speaker 1: he was one of the one of those kids. There's
Speaker 1: a video if you google Bruno Mars on the Bobby
Speaker 1: Bones Show. He crushes they did Michael Jackson, he did
Speaker 1: um like Billy Jean. He's like, yeah, yeah, and so
Speaker 1: he's playing with you. She was like, and he's just
Speaker 1: crushing every song good. He's just it. He's just got
Speaker 1: that thing man. And now the superstar. He is a superstar.
Speaker 1: It's it's fun to watch like the it's it's even
Speaker 1: fun to watch it now here in the country world
Speaker 1: to watch and actually like be a part of people's
Speaker 1: careers and see them go from just somebody who's getting
Speaker 1: a deal or somebody who had doesn't have a deal yet.
Speaker 1: Like you know, one of my first people here that
Speaker 1: I actually met and she was just a kid. It
Speaker 1: was Kelsey remember her being on his show singing an
Speaker 1: acoustic version of the girl Crush or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe back she was on the tour every week. I
Speaker 1: mean she didn't mount a song, but I remember talking
Speaker 1: to her and she was she had to publish a deal.
Speaker 1: And it's been cool to watching these artists like grow
Speaker 1: and she's you know, got four number ones and then
Speaker 1: and it's like it's like now she's a star. But
Speaker 1: you've been able to see some who did you see
Speaker 1: early on where you're like, oh, man, like I'm not
Speaker 1: even that I wasn't that good when I started, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a superstar. I mean all these guys,
Speaker 1: I feel like Thomas Rhett Ah, you know, he just
Speaker 1: has like, man, I may I got my deal with seven.
Speaker 1: I'm such a late bloomer. I didn't have anything really
Speaker 1: figured out. And even when I got you know, married,
Speaker 1: and was just out there on the road and like
Speaker 1: trying to like grapple with like how to make these
Speaker 1: things all work. These guys make it look so effortlessly.
Speaker 1: I mean Thomas with Lauren and he's balancing, he's he's
Speaker 1: got to go on. Actually got him saying them there
Speaker 1: night when he played down here in the sand and
Speaker 1: after the game, right like and uh, he's just got
Speaker 1: the show's tight. He's so good up there. He's he
Speaker 1: just knows what he's doing and his personal life as
Speaker 1: well as really like balanced and it's integrated into his
Speaker 1: like is um his career and he just he's got
Speaker 1: a lot. He's he's way away for the head that
Speaker 1: I was like mentally developed as far at that age.
Speaker 1: Last year he played My Heart Country Festival and and
Speaker 1: see him because I don't get to see a lot
Speaker 1: of you guys on the road because I'm also out
Speaker 1: on the road or like I'm just tired, and it's
Speaker 1: like what am I gonna do travel to New Hampshire
Speaker 1: to watch you guys play? Like I just watched it,
Speaker 1: go over to the house, Like it's so I don't
Speaker 1: get to see shows that often. And that's not that's
Speaker 1: kind of a but that's like a televised kind of situation.
Speaker 1: It is. But he played a full stet and haven't
Speaker 1: and I didn't see right, So it was so I
Speaker 1: went up to after the show and I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: like it was next level. He had grown so much
Speaker 1: and it was so freaking good. Yeah he did, you know.
Speaker 1: It was like kids do the darnest things, is what
Speaker 1: I told him. It was like that show. It was
Speaker 1: like it's like I watched a kid just like grow up.
Speaker 1: We I was with him when he really was making
Speaker 1: this transfer which he recently made with his music from
Speaker 1: Fear at Jesus and some of the you know, kind
Speaker 1: of breaking away and we're on the road together and
Speaker 1: he was talking about new record and he's talking about
Speaker 1: he was I mean, he was nervous. Man. I think
Speaker 1: he's about to have a nervous breakdowns. He really was
Speaker 1: going for a different sound and just trying different stuff,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people, you know, transferred away from
Speaker 1: kind of the the thing he was doing, the Georgia
Speaker 1: Boy stuff into this personal he is now and a
Speaker 1: lot of haters, you know, hating on him for the
Speaker 1: things he was going forward, and I was always so
Speaker 1: supportive because he really was going for his His goal
Speaker 1: is high. He's not going for just he wants to
Speaker 1: he's competitive. He wants to take down the takedown, the
Speaker 1: top guys who or in his same you know league
Speaker 1: and is his same crew. And he's like, I love
Speaker 1: that I got this one song. It's a love song.
Speaker 1: I think it's only that's to save man. This album
Speaker 1: is no one's been like this albums I would be terrible,
Speaker 1: but this one song is a love song and we'll
Speaker 1: see how it goes. And it was of course die
Speaker 1: happy man, and it's gonna changed everything for him. He's
Speaker 1: he's dialing in him. Man. It's fun to watch him
Speaker 1: like just keep getting more and more figured out who
Speaker 1: he is and what he wants to do. What was
Speaker 1: that for you? What was the song that you kind
Speaker 1: of switched it up for You're like, oh boy, where
Speaker 1: a different plant Field? Now? As man, I think, um,
Speaker 1: my career has been so different than anyone else. As
Speaker 1: I know, it's just been so such a long slow
Speaker 1: what comes to mind where you're like king a plane
Speaker 1: changed a lot for me? Uh, I'm getting drunk on plane,
Speaker 1: I mean, but this song had a big like it's party.
Speaker 1: Thank The most important song of my whole career and
Speaker 1: I stay every night when I'm on stage is as
Speaker 1: I Hold On. That's a song that like connects the
Speaker 1: most of um, the most personal song for me. I
Speaker 1: wrote a wraph my dad passed away, and the audience man,
Speaker 1: those it's it's a song in the show where like
Speaker 1: we're had a party. Thing's fun, it's awesome, We're all
Speaker 1: fully connected because we're all having so much fun and
Speaker 1: throwing a party. This song I play, it's just like
Speaker 1: it loses in a different direction. It's it's it's more
Speaker 1: just like this instead of it's it's like we just
Speaker 1: come together over the shared sentiment of holding on the
Speaker 1: things that that means something to you. It's the most
Speaker 1: more important song important, but not the one you felt
Speaker 1: flipped you like, oh boy, this is it. I remember
Speaker 1: the day Drunk on a Plane like I heard it
Speaker 1: in the first You brought it into the studio and
Speaker 1: I hadn't been played yet, and and you were like,
Speaker 1: what you hear this song? I was like, this is
Speaker 1: a real song, Drunk on a Plane. I thought you
Speaker 1: were messing with me. And I almost didn't put it
Speaker 1: on the record. Who makes that call then to put
Speaker 1: it on the record. It just you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: so everyone I work with he's such an open communication.
Speaker 1: If I like even the label with Mike and sending
Speaker 1: everyone to Capital, If if I have doubts about something,
Speaker 1: they don't immediately jump on that U set to promote
Speaker 1: their agenda. Everyone just is like cool. We all work
Speaker 1: out together and work with Mary and we just kind
Speaker 1: of like and our tour of my um executive producer
Speaker 1: and Ross and just okay, let's put it on there,
Speaker 1: you know, but didn't make it a stingle a you're
Speaker 1: talking about like complete left the center, No, remember something
Speaker 1: like that's all. We'll never worked. Man, Rednecks don't fly like.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if it will work either,
Speaker 1: but it's it's I'm a pilot and I love you know.
Speaker 1: At the time, I was them two drinks and it
Speaker 1: was it was. But it's a huge song for me,
Speaker 1: for sure. It was a monster. It was. It's a monster, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean and if it flew up the charts, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was big. I remember the day it came on
Speaker 1: the radio. We did a debut, like a world premiere
Speaker 1: of it, and it played all day long. And I
Speaker 1: won't say it is, but I was like, man, this
Speaker 1: sounds really good, right, because I like things that are different.
Speaker 1: I don't. I like taking big chances and hitting the
Speaker 1: runs more so than being consistent and just you know,
Speaker 1: having that three batting average. So it came I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I love this song because this is the son like
Speaker 1: anything else, and that one of the radio gaps with
Speaker 1: a big radio guy. He was like, it sucks. Sucks,
Speaker 1: like this is never gonna work. It's too weirdos No,
Speaker 1: it's not. It wasn't right because but like I love this.
Speaker 1: Like you know what song I loved yours it didn't
Speaker 1: work for you was Bourbon it can Talk You with
Speaker 1: You and Casey I loved that song. That album cycles
Speaker 1: so fun because I put up Bourbon it didn't work,
Speaker 1: pulled it back, put out I Hold On, which probably
Speaker 1: was a huge song with me, then drunkla Plane, which
Speaker 1: was honestly the biggest song on that album. But Bourbon,
Speaker 1: it was a great song that Hillary Lindsay wrote, and
Speaker 1: I just I love that song. And I had to
Speaker 1: call her up. She's down an Orange beach. She had
Speaker 1: a few drinks and I was like hey. She's like, hey,
Speaker 1: what are you doing. And I was like, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna believe this, but we're pulling that song and she
Speaker 1: was like so confused. She's just like I thought the
Speaker 1: next time I heard from you would be like the
Speaker 1: number one party. I'm like, I have never had a
Speaker 1: pull song for my life. But it's a little summer
Speaker 1: and I'm getting all his feedback that the song is
Speaker 1: too dark, and that's why I loved it, though I
Speaker 1: know I love it too, and I just everyone's everyone around.
Speaker 1: He's like, it's just not gonna work, and you've either
Speaker 1: work it for thirty weeks and haven't die in the
Speaker 1: thirties or make a change now. It was the first
Speaker 1: song off the record, and um, I hate that. It
Speaker 1: was a great tune, but yeah, just that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Sometimes what for you because the article come in and say, hey,
Speaker 1: this is like, for example, I think, who wasn't my
Speaker 1: American kids like Kenny cut a little big Town had it,
Speaker 1: and Kenny cut it, and so no, no, Kenny had it,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, a little bit Gun had it. A little
Speaker 1: bit Gun had it. Shane was telling the story. Okay,
Speaker 1: now it's a little Shane had it. Shane, He's on
Speaker 1: a flight and uh, he's on a flight with Kenny.
Speaker 1: He plays a song for Ki. He's like, I gotta
Speaker 1: have a song. But Shane's like, I'm too scared to
Speaker 1: tell him little bit Guns already cut it. So he
Speaker 1: has to call I have to call a little bit
Speaker 1: down Kenny Caton like I would love to have this song,
Speaker 1: and she's like oh, and Kenny's like I want to
Speaker 1: make this the single. Yeah, And and he's like, it's
Speaker 1: up to you, guys, it's your song. You've already started
Speaker 1: paying your tracking it. And so a little bit down
Speaker 1: gave the song American Kids to Kenny. So a lot
Speaker 1: of people come to the stories like, man, I had
Speaker 1: this song and then I was like, yeah, last minute,
Speaker 1: I let it go. I have a bunch of songs
Speaker 1: that like I heard, Because the main things if you're
Speaker 1: picking singles you got are picking songs. You gotta pick
Speaker 1: songs that are that are hits, but also their hits
Speaker 1: for you, and that's that's that's how you get the
Speaker 1: big hits. How the Park and I had three hundreds.
Speaker 1: When you pick singles that are like made for you,
Speaker 1: you think the song is like Don't Close your Eyes
Speaker 1: by Keith Whitley, songs that like We're just that's the
Speaker 1: single was made for that song. Um John Party's song
Speaker 1: during my boots. I heard that song I think before
Speaker 1: he before he cut it. And what did you think
Speaker 1: when you heard it? Huge hit? This is a monster.
Speaker 1: This is a huge song. There's a lining there about
Speaker 1: a tractor, you know, I'm like, that is I don't
Speaker 1: have that tractor. Factor. You know, I don't have that
Speaker 1: things not what I do. So like I could either
Speaker 1: try to change the song to make it work for
Speaker 1: me or just let it go and hope those guys,
Speaker 1: you know, I want the songwriters. I want them to
Speaker 1: find for songwriters, man, they might get one or two
Speaker 1: great Now these guys they probably get five great songs
Speaker 1: a year. Right. I don't want to like stand in
Speaker 1: the way someone's like baby and then tied up, because
Speaker 1: that's the way Nashville used to be. People to hold
Speaker 1: songs like years, you know, hold thirty or forty songs
Speaker 1: to the record, and the hold was respected nowadays, and
Speaker 1: as it should be. It's not like you either cut
Speaker 1: it or you don't. And if you're just you know,
Speaker 1: you're taking your time. I'm gonna picture to somebody else
Speaker 1: and get them to cut it. You know. Songwriters have
Speaker 1: more power now, I think than they did back and
Speaker 1: in the late nineties. Um, but so that song Whiskey
Speaker 1: Lullabys a song that came that I her and I
Speaker 1: was like and then and and why why not that one? What? What?
Speaker 1: What that just uh? I don't know just what you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't hear it as to do what the way
Speaker 1: Brad hurt it, which is genius. Um, it just wasn't
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just didn't have it, didn't do it,
Speaker 1: didn't do something for me. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 1: But there's that happens all the time. But for me,
Speaker 1: I'd never go, oh my gosh, I'm kicking myself. I'm
Speaker 1: always like, I'm happy for that that song found the
Speaker 1: right home and made its way. There's there's always another
Speaker 1: song out there. Who have you heard the opposite where
Speaker 1: you got this song? Because somebody else was like made
Speaker 1: it a hit and they have to be a man.
Speaker 1: You know, someone on the beach was a big deal.
Speaker 1: It really was. Man, that was like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I had the song on hold, and there's five guys
Speaker 1: that wrote that song and there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: wanted that song and I just who wanted it. Um
Speaker 1: uh got wrote one of those the writers of the song. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm totally drawn a blake right now. My brain is,
Speaker 1: so what happens when you're on the road for three
Speaker 1: days straight. But well, actually, Michael Knox, I thinks I
Speaker 1: think Michael Knox wanted it for one of his artists
Speaker 1: and what it was and we kept saying that our
Speaker 1: tour that luckily, I don't know if those battles my
Speaker 1: U one of my producers really goes in the trenches
Speaker 1: for that stuff. And it worked out. It was a
Speaker 1: big hit for for me and it helps him go
Speaker 1: on the road and kind of have a song and
Speaker 1: talking about at the same time. You know, it's it's
Speaker 1: to be tough when you're a new artist. You know,
Speaker 1: a big song that it's different and you can kind
Speaker 1: of set you apart from other people. Um, but I
Speaker 1: hopefully they're happy there was a big hit. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like Lady, you know, Lady has you Look Good?
Speaker 1: And and that was Thomas Rhett's first that's his song,
Speaker 1: and it was he didn't write it, he had it
Speaker 1: and he was like he was gonna cut it. It's
Speaker 1: awesome the whole, I mean and the whole. But every
Speaker 1: artist does different things with it too. That's that's what
Speaker 1: we don't know too, Like what are you going to
Speaker 1: do different about? Like Kenny's totally was like this beach
Speaker 1: five who who knows how a little big towne put
Speaker 1: it and tracked it when what they would have had
Speaker 1: as a part of this song and it's it's it's yeah, totally,
Speaker 1: it's you know, I think all you can do. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just the business we're in in in life, in generals,
Speaker 1: you have to like you cannot like hold like that.
Speaker 1: You you gotta be have an attitude of gratitude and
Speaker 1: be thankful for what you got. And if something it's
Speaker 1: all meant to be, it's it's that's there's a reason
Speaker 1: why you didn't cut that song. There's just want someone
Speaker 1: else cut the song. And otherwise you your drivers so
Speaker 1: crazy and you're wound be resentful and you're gonna be
Speaker 1: You're you're playing a small game and you should be
Speaker 1: playing a much bigger game where you're looking at a
Speaker 1: macro view of it, not just this micro like song song, song,
Speaker 1: song song. If you're you know, that's not that's not
Speaker 1: the work. People trying to pitch you songs all the time.
Speaker 1: Not not your people and not people that are in
Speaker 1: your second tier. But like walking down the street people
Speaker 1: I get stuff, Yeah, I get stuff from obviously it
Speaker 1: shows and I my email address. A lot of people
Speaker 1: have my email address. I get a lot of songs
Speaker 1: out there and that I try to listen to them.
Speaker 1: And but you do. Try to listen to them. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'll I mean, I'm pretty quick. I mean I can
Speaker 1: go seven eight seconds to know whether it's from me
Speaker 1: or not. It might might be a great song, but
Speaker 1: it's not for me. What about the legalities of it though,
Speaker 1: because I have because listen, I write dumb songs, right,
Speaker 1: I don't even on the road. Is someone like hands
Speaker 1: me a CD, I don't touch it. I goes to
Speaker 1: Tom or Jay round of my guys. And because you
Speaker 1: have songwriters insurance, because if I have to have it,
Speaker 1: you have it like crazy, right, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I have you for sure, if they're if
Speaker 1: my business manager makes me have it, find out I know,
Speaker 1: like talk to the guys in the town that have
Speaker 1: it and they and they say, it's pretty amazing. But
Speaker 1: I'll find out right now if I have it, I
Speaker 1: don't think I do. And maybe my business it makes
Speaker 1: me have it because she knows I probably actudally steal
Speaker 1: a song and because I'm not good, she'd be like,
Speaker 1: it's funny. You have to make sure. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: fun it right now, I definitely have it. Let's see here,
Speaker 1: let's mark throw a up more real quick? Ah, this
Speaker 1: is not a single, but love the song. My favorite
Speaker 1: songs on the record. I don't want to I'll be
Speaker 1: the Moon because Ryan's been in here, just saw Maaron
Speaker 1: Max stage it up and Thomas to show us like
Speaker 1: Kimble untr a song together because it kind of ruins
Speaker 1: the chance of us to be a single that I
Speaker 1: text Ryan all the time. You know, I do have
Speaker 1: songer insurance. Yeah there you go, Um, Ryan, you can
Speaker 1: I keep up? And Uh, this is the best song.
Speaker 1: He's been telling him for two years, Like the song means,
Speaker 1: it's one of the best songs I've heard. It's such
Speaker 1: a unique like take on it. And like you, I'm
Speaker 1: always looking for songs are different, say that way you
Speaker 1: haven't heard before. The idea of like I'll be the
Speaker 1: moon man, that guy can be the sun. He can
Speaker 1: be in your life during the daytime, but I'll be
Speaker 1: there with you at night. And that's such a good idea.
Speaker 1: And she kills it. She sings that they're part of
Speaker 1: their so awesome and I wish it was a single.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, I don't know, but I don't think so.
Speaker 1: When the record came out, I love that song so much,
Speaker 1: you know, And Mary Cammon sanging. I was like, you guess,
Speaker 1: have you singing on the show? Like I love the show.
Speaker 1: I love songs so much. Was like, I she's blown
Speaker 1: up obviously, Yeah, but yeah she's reulatively new at that point, Ryan,
Speaker 1: Ryan and I keep up. Yeah, I like that dude.
Speaker 1: He's a good dude. I think I'm gonna see a
Speaker 1: stage coach on Friday. So we got there. We're playing
Speaker 1: on Saturday. Man, are you going in early? Yeah? I am.
Speaker 1: What are you? Are you working or just hanging? We're
Speaker 1: playing on Saturday night? What are you coming on Friday?
Speaker 1: We're just we're just have to get there earlier because
Speaker 1: it's such a big thing. You're coming on Friday night? Yeah,
Speaker 1: work on fight? What are you playing on Friday? So
Speaker 1: you're but you're the big You're the big name on
Speaker 1: the top of that thing. The third time, finally, it's
Speaker 1: not the top of the thing. That stage coach is
Speaker 1: a tough gig. The ideal gig is the one right
Speaker 1: before the last one, as it always is. Eight o'clock slot.
Speaker 1: Son's still going down, they're still serving alcohol. People's buzzes
Speaker 1: are still kind of going up a little bit. They're
Speaker 1: in a good mood. Still ten fifteen. You know they're
Speaker 1: they're like almost hung over this point. You have to
Speaker 1: go out there and like just killed. You have to
Speaker 1: kick their ass. You're one of the big names, like you,
Speaker 1: there are three big names. It's Dirk Shania because that's
Speaker 1: who's our night, and then maybe it's Ken. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: first time I played there was it was daylight and
Speaker 1: Taylor swiftled on before me. That that says a lot.
Speaker 1: That was back in That was seven and I came
Speaker 1: back and opened for Miranda, and then this time we're
Speaker 1: finally headlining it. So look at that big deal, big night. Man,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Stage coaches one I've never been before and
Speaker 1: then played like six months ago. It's fun and we
Speaker 1: were like Oca, we were't gonna play a bunch of idiot.
Speaker 1: I was just doing stand up. Yeah, it's and everybody's like,
Speaker 1: come to do stage coach. Yeah, it's fun. We hope
Speaker 1: you'll be in the night, will Yeah, I'll come. We'll
Speaker 1: come out of the show. We're standing in front's house
Speaker 1: close so we're just gonna about to walk over there
Speaker 1: is I guess that walkable like can you watch? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was run back and forth. There's it's so much
Speaker 1: going on the backstage is great. There's so many different bands,
Speaker 1: and that's what's great. You got guys like yeah, when
Speaker 1: I was give bluegrass bands playing, you got Jerry Lewis
Speaker 1: is playing, You've got country. They do a great job
Speaker 1: of really bringing like everybody in that's under the country umbrella.
Speaker 1: So we're playing a lot of the Brian festivals this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're doing that Route ninety one and Faster Horses and
Speaker 1: we're doing and so Connal's vessels are fun. Man, those
Speaker 1: are particular great. He takes a lot of pride and
Speaker 1: he makes the backstage vibe great. That's what that's what
Speaker 1: you like, you can tell. And for the fan experience too,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I love all the vessels, they're great,
Speaker 1: but having like festivals that aren't just the kind of
Speaker 1: same feeling that kind of have this unique like ninety
Speaker 1: one has its own feel and Faster Horse does its
Speaker 1: feeling and Watershed has its feeling. The well, I'll go
Speaker 1: with Brian and the golf cart and go drive around
Speaker 1: people tailgating hole to show me where this is where
Speaker 1: we set this place up. Just to get ice, man,
Speaker 1: they get ice any time to one here and some
Speaker 1: block and this is a pond they can go fishing,
Speaker 1: and they can get fishing poles from right here and
Speaker 1: go fishing this pond. And he really makes it unique.
Speaker 1: And hopefully we're doing some thing together. I'm doing faster horses.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm doing watershed. I don't know. Does it feel
Speaker 1: like you live two lives. I do live two lives
Speaker 1: because it's like the normal dude during the middle of
Speaker 1: the week and then the rock star in the week.
Speaker 1: I'm literally I've had a chance to do like some
Speaker 1: TV stuff and it would make for great TV, but
Speaker 1: I just don't want to have like cameras on me.
Speaker 1: But because of aviation and because and and I'm treating
Speaker 1: myself on Who I am on the road is definitely
Speaker 1: who I am my fans, I'm honestly in front of them,
Speaker 1: and that's a big part of my personality. When I
Speaker 1: get on stage and go crazy, um, but I am
Speaker 1: literally I'll be I'll be flying home and the next
Speaker 1: morning my kids are younger, I'll be like in a
Speaker 1: mommy me class with a truly baton, you know, like
Speaker 1: doing like the things, but no one the right mon
Speaker 1: possibly think that I was doing this, you know, like
Speaker 1: because I mean, I'm all in on the dad thing.
Speaker 1: Like I I there's nothing beneath me, nothing I won't do.
Speaker 1: I won't do anything, and so it's a it's definitely
Speaker 1: I physically I am two places it once too. I
Speaker 1: mean I get very little sleep. I know, I'm up
Speaker 1: every morning early because I want to have a full
Speaker 1: life here and one thing it takes a toll on
Speaker 1: is the sleep. But I really am physically sometimes in
Speaker 1: two places at the same time. I want to end
Speaker 1: on this. And I wonder if guy a question for
Speaker 1: you are cool? Uh, okay, let me head first and
Speaker 1: then I'll come with you. Guys, what NAP? I walked
Speaker 1: by your book every day and it was in my closet.
Speaker 1: They're not symbol drives me crazy all the time I see,
Speaker 1: I go do you get paid on that nap? Nothing?
Speaker 1: Zero question zero. NAPA buys a studio sponsorship and it's
Speaker 1: in there. And and I wanted that book to be
Speaker 1: just random pictures. And so just like the book is
Speaker 1: all random stories and I just want and NAPA, we
Speaker 1: had to make the decision do we not choose the
Speaker 1: picture because there's a logo, or do it is a
Speaker 1: part of my life and a part of time, we
Speaker 1: were like, you know what, they just I really like
Speaker 1: working with an appo because they're fantastic, but also it
Speaker 1: was like, you know, this is NAP Weirdly, they're a
Speaker 1: big part of my life because they allowed me to eat.
Speaker 1: The sponsors of the show allowed me to eat. We
Speaker 1: had to have a meeting to go on the picture
Speaker 1: of the book. There's a NAPI logo. Do we cut it?
Speaker 1: Do we make it black? Absolutely? And it was just
Speaker 1: I just tried in that book too. As much of
Speaker 1: my life there really was just let it be. I
Speaker 1: just see that all the time. I was like, it's
Speaker 1: so funny what you got. That's so funny you asked
Speaker 1: that because we had a whole meeting about that. I
Speaker 1: was like, just let it be and no, no, no
Speaker 1: money extra. We don't think we ever even told him.
Speaker 1: They're happy. We know, yeah, um okay, might hear my question.
Speaker 1: So when the a c MS happened and you were
Speaker 1: you were hosting, I was back before presenting. It was
Speaker 1: crazy how call him and chill you were in between.
Speaker 1: We were just talking before going on and I just
Speaker 1: got to go on do album in the year and
Speaker 1: I was rooting for you, and I said publicly, I
Speaker 1: wanted you to ain album in the year you didn't win,
Speaker 1: which sucked, but I wanted you to win, and so
Speaker 1: I opened I looked at the card ahead of time,
Speaker 1: and I saw that it was Miranda who won, and
Speaker 1: I went over to Mary and told her so as
Speaker 1: if she wanted to tell you, so you wouldn't be like,
Speaker 1: let did she tell you or did you see it live?
Speaker 1: I mean because because I went over, you know, the
Speaker 1: award show stuff. I'm I'm as competitive. I'm I'm I
Speaker 1: don't know anyone more competitive than me. I'm really really competitive.
Speaker 1: But and there's times I've lived and died by the
Speaker 1: award shows. And I'm in a place now where I like,
Speaker 1: I love being nominated. It's awesome. Winning would be nice,
Speaker 1: but I'm minute to win much bigger, but it sucks
Speaker 1: for you. Like I wanted you to be honest, man,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'd like once I can think people
Speaker 1: like you have played you played. I don't you know
Speaker 1: you've played songs and given a chance agat things. God's
Speaker 1: going I want to think Mary, I want to take
Speaker 1: my wife, but man, I just want to I want
Speaker 1: to be honest. All that one you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 1: do all that. You get the trophy. That's great, but
Speaker 1: winning in you can't just win when you have I'm winning.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm winning a life man. I have
Speaker 1: Like I get to go to that and that's great.
Speaker 1: And I I didn't win Album of the Year, but
Speaker 1: when the show's over, I get to go back to,
Speaker 1: like this great band I got to play. I agree,
Speaker 1: it's awesome. That's my awesome. I'm just telling you. I
Speaker 1: was like life, I was sad he didn't win, and
Speaker 1: I was like, this is this is just boy looking
Speaker 1: at a boy. And I was like, Mary, if you
Speaker 1: want to tell him, I don't want to. I don't
Speaker 1: want to, like on TV, like be like, if your
Speaker 1: album's out the same year Moreno's out, you're not. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna get a way. That's the way it goes,
Speaker 1: and it deserves certainly. So. She makes great records, got
Speaker 1: a great voice. He's a great friend and I'm happy
Speaker 1: for she. And it was a double out. As an
Speaker 1: art piece, it was a fantastic art piece. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying for you. I looked I wanted to see it
Speaker 1: that I went and told Mary your manager. I was like,
Speaker 1: he didn't win. So if you want to tell him,
Speaker 1: just so she's used to, you're not winning. My sister
Speaker 1: calls me the Susan Lucci of of country music, so hey,
Speaker 1: better be that than nothing else. But I I'm I'm
Speaker 1: so appreciative every worship been nominated for it, him saying
Speaker 1: this in all honesty, But I would tell any younger
Speaker 1: artists out there, do not make that your goal. Do
Speaker 1: not look at Kenny. He never want anything to like
Speaker 1: he was already playing stadiums, lutism and a whole lot
Speaker 1: of stuff. He did start winning till he's already playing stadiums, Like,
Speaker 1: do not focus on winning a piece of hard word.
Speaker 1: It's so silly, and it's a lot of it's voted on.
Speaker 1: As you know, I'm not gonna tell the listeners, you know,
Speaker 1: just enjoy your stick. You don't want to see how
Speaker 1: it's made. It's it's not a free process that stuff
Speaker 1: gulds vote on. It's really not, and it's it's not
Speaker 1: the true judge of Like what is good is your audience.
Speaker 1: When you go out there and you stand front that
Speaker 1: my phone and they sing songs back to you. That's
Speaker 1: what any younger artist should be focused on. And that's
Speaker 1: what I focus on. There's times the middle of my
Speaker 1: career where I didn't and I got frustrated, but I
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care. It's hard. Just popped up
Speaker 1: on notifications. It's the best one choruses of all time,
Speaker 1: like hooks of songs. Now it's not even country songs.
Speaker 1: Like if I say Ashley Simpson pieces of Meat, remember
Speaker 1: the course that song? Yeah? I mean, and I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking through some of this list. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can sing all like the Muana soundtrack. I have kids.
Speaker 1: I bet you know all that. I mean, I can sing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to get here and see the top of
Speaker 1: these real quick. I can sing here we go, all right,
Speaker 1: here we go top ten? You ready. Miley talks Wrecking
Speaker 1: Ball that everybody knows that they came in like a rick.
Speaker 1: Don't your voice ride with me? You know that one?
Speaker 1: If you want to come and take a rib with me?
Speaker 1: You know the Nelly Nell? Yeah, sort of. Georgia Lins
Speaker 1: already got to say I was a flow rider, Oh
Speaker 1: flow right alright? R Kelly Ignisia Rex. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be like Piani or something he has.
Speaker 1: He has a whole video. Yeah, he has a whole life.
Speaker 1: You notice that, I'm like the wrong. I listened like
Speaker 1: flattened scrugs. I'm like, I don't know anything about they say,
Speaker 1: Katie very teenage dream. Uh yeah, I know a song
Speaker 1: is give me a little piece. This is a top
Speaker 1: for me. That's it. Yeah, I wouldn't like how about
Speaker 1: Empire state of Mind, the whole the jay Z stuff, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this whole his things so good that the one about
Speaker 1: ambience min ambience in New York, Concrete Jungle mad or
Speaker 1: the top five. Then you can't this when you get
Speaker 1: I bet Jimmy where all the middle? Oh you don't
Speaker 1: get to it just takes sometimes you do that that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: don you do that? Your show? Uh were part of it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did parts of all kinds of I am like,
Speaker 1: I'm honestly this is not outcast, Miss Jackson. No, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Miss Jackson. Who I am for real? Never meant to
Speaker 1: make your mama you know that one? Oh my gosh, No,
Speaker 1: I know Rosald Kentucky and uh you know, no Skinner Blues.
Speaker 1: I'm just killer, Mr Brightside because I missed love the killer.
Speaker 1: You know you guys, no, but I saw them play.
Speaker 1: When they play the like the great thing to living
Speaker 1: in Nashville, you see, like everyone comes through the rhyme,
Speaker 1: and I saw them play the rhyme and they're still
Speaker 1: on their way up. It was it was awesome man.
Speaker 1: Number two, since you've been gone, Kelly Clarkson, since you've
Speaker 1: been and number one is Carly Ray Jackson called me
Speaker 1: maybe my son's favorite song. I know, I know, I
Speaker 1: know that a song as my son Knox is three.
Speaker 1: Call me maybe. We listen to call me maybe, like
Speaker 1: it's still ten times in the car, but we just
Speaker 1: got into it. Hey, I just met you. This is crazy,
Speaker 1: but here's my number, so call me maybe. And oh
Speaker 1: the other boys try to chase me, but here's my number.
Speaker 1: Call me maybe. And before you came into my life
Speaker 1: so bad. You should know that. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: the whole thing, man, But that's it's embarrassing. My son
Speaker 1: loves that song. I think it must you know what
Speaker 1: it was in the movie Sing. That's the reason why
Speaker 1: I know there's a TV show a movie called Sing.
Speaker 1: It's like a cartoons and it's so good and oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, Matthew McConaughey, go back to your original thing
Speaker 1: about people you text and what text you back Matthew McConaughey.
Speaker 1: So I did a thing for him called matt Jack
Speaker 1: and Mac. It's in Austin. Austin. Yeah, it's Mac Brown,
Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey. And I'm so glad this happened because I
Speaker 1: can tell you the story so anyway, and he like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's really hard to couldn't do it. As
Speaker 1: the schedules are working out with he all three of
Speaker 1: them like called me texting one day and Matthew McConaughey
Speaker 1: like called me, like, whoa Connie just called me? This
Speaker 1: is crazy. He's texted me. I decided to do it.
Speaker 1: Text little bit leading up to it. Well, then afterwards
Speaker 1: I hadn't you know, I watched the movie sing you know,
Speaker 1: he was the voice of them in the main characters,
Speaker 1: and I was like, how do you put this Bravo
Speaker 1: sing so good, Bravo, Bravo and an idiot Bravo. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's even those film as a new film,
Speaker 1: and like just yeah, nothing came back on that one,
Speaker 1: and oh no, no, no, I haven't heard from that one.
Speaker 1: I think, I think about I used my one chance
Speaker 1: that with mcconnay and this nothing else. He's not texting
Speaker 1: back a stupid comforts. All right, there we go, it's
Speaker 1: already over. It's over. We talked for hour and time
Speaker 1: just flies by. It was really fun. Man, Thanks, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming by. Congrats, Thanks, thanks a good thing. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know people listen to these for weeks and months ago.
Speaker 1: Awaits right now black a single. You know, these podcasts
Speaker 1: are definitely not time sensitive. But it's the crazy thing
Speaker 1: about it. It's like it again, but I talk lifestyles,
Speaker 1: talk about food, nutrition, whatever you want to think about this.
Speaker 1: Dex is like I want to do a podcast. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I wan't to talk about yeah, life hacking and how
Speaker 1: we can keep it. He brought me a book, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Tool, and I haven't read the Tim Ferris book.
Speaker 1: And it's like it looks like if you were to
Speaker 1: stack three Bibles on top of each other, it's three
Speaker 1: of grinders like yourself. Man, I'll put a note in
Speaker 1: there for you. You did put a note in there. Yes,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. All right, episode what's that? Except for
Speaker 1: Derek's good to see you and now I'll probably see
Speaker 1: you a couple day. I'll see Friday night talking about
Speaker 1: I'm cooking on. All right, come on, I think I've
Speaker 1: been to your shows more than anybody else's. Like, really,
Speaker 1: I've been to more of your shows than anybody in
Speaker 1: town period. Yeah. Starts a way back when d C thanks,
Speaker 1: it's the first big one. Yeah, oh yeah, you like
Speaker 1: like con but I think I'm saying seven of your
Speaker 1: shows I'm in became of the most the biggest one Bashel,
Speaker 1: which I appreciate me lest night, that's a big night.
Speaker 1: That was That was a crazy that was like everybody
Speaker 1: was like, okay, he's that was your moment into that
Speaker 1: you're now in the eight Wherever you want to say
Speaker 1: it is that that was your night where you kind
Speaker 1: of jumped up sometimes. All right, whatever you want to say,
Speaker 1: all right, Derek send thank you and thanks to Blue
Speaker 1: Apron wat for flowers, and we'll see you guys next
Speaker 1: night