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Speaker 1: The quest Left show is a production of iHeart Radio. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I was going to avoid this question, So here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Like I initially, I initially had so many musical questions,

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Speaker 1: but because I didn't know you as a human being,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to go through that route and just ask

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Speaker 1: about your life as a human and a creator.

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Speaker 2: But I'm going to close on.

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Speaker 1: This last question, which is, how does it feel well

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Speaker 1: to see something that you created, as in three words,

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Speaker 1: that suddenly becomes all my It's like you you named

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Speaker 1: this period like when we look at the time period

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Speaker 1: when we speak of, uh, the Jim Crow period, when

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Speaker 1: we speak of the civil rights period, when we speak

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Speaker 1: of the reconstruction period, we will probably call the twenties.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know the word woke is

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Speaker 1: going to to enter the lexicon when it comes to

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Speaker 1: like describing it. What point did you realize, Holy shit,

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Speaker 1: this like when I realized that, you know, white political

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Speaker 1: pundits were now using it, when our enemies were using

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Speaker 1: it especially I.

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Speaker 2: Kept saying, right.

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Speaker 1: But I kept saying, like God, I pray to Guy

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Speaker 1: that Georgia like trademark that word so that it stays

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Speaker 1: with her. When did you first coin the term was

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Speaker 1: it when you were doing Master Teacher or like how

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Speaker 1: did it?

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Speaker 2: How did it come to be?

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Speaker 3: It's so interesting, right because just even with Massive Teacher, right,

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Speaker 3: like that song, like that was a day before I

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Speaker 3: had a nervous breakdown, Like if I meant anything, I

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Speaker 3: said it that day, do you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 3: So like if I meant anything, if I was like

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Speaker 3: about it, like so many times I be so cringey

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Speaker 3: about that song because like of what would happen the

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Speaker 3: day after I made that song, you know, and it

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Speaker 3: and I think that that's something so beautiful because it's

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Speaker 3: like when you mean something so much, anything can happen.

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Speaker 3: When you're actually cheating yourself, anything can happen. And so

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Speaker 3: the state of Walk came from me and Lakeisha Benjamin

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Speaker 3: being in New York in school trying to figure out

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Speaker 3: how we're gonna get it out through the music like

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Speaker 3: Cold Trane and and like you know, getting it out

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Speaker 3: through the music, finding language for what it is that

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Speaker 3: we're experiencing, you know. And at that time, Lakeisha Benjamin, I,

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Speaker 3: like you know, we were jam session mates, you know,

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Speaker 3: because I decided to drop out of the jazz program

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Speaker 3: to just go learn by just being put in the blender, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but she graduated.

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Speaker 5: I ain't graduate.

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Speaker 3: So it was just like those things was just like

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Speaker 3: it was wild because there were certain things that the

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Speaker 3: composition teacher didn't know what to tell me what my

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Speaker 3: chords were, and it was all types of weird stuff

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Speaker 3: going on like that. I'm just sat in the stage

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Speaker 3: for coming from a community as you well know, like

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Speaker 3: being from Philly. You know what I'm saying, Gamble up,

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Speaker 3: somebody got a coofy on. Like it's like it's like

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Speaker 3: somebody got consciousness, you know what I'm saying. Oh, Jay's

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Speaker 3: got animal rights songs, they got chugarhoy, they got branded.

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Speaker 3: It's like they're going through the whole gamut of like

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Speaker 4: A lot, you feel me.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just saying it like because you're on my side,

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Speaker 3: you feel me, decided to put you there. But like

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Speaker 3: coming from the Mert Park where it's like like coming

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Speaker 3: from the world stage, like my dad owned like a

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Speaker 3: coop for every day of the year. Jazz or it's

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Speaker 3: so called jazz right was never not an afrocentric expression

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Speaker 3: in my whole life. It was always an afrocentric expression.

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Speaker 3: It was always a diaspora, you know, a gem of

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Speaker 3: even black. So when I go to school and they

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Speaker 3: go like, jazz isn't black at all, I have to

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Speaker 3: stand up and be like, sir, you lying. Children are

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Speaker 3: from Japan and different parts of the world because they

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Speaker 3: want to learn the truth. They're paying you to tell

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Speaker 5: I have to tell you the truth.

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Speaker 4: So it's like this was woke.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this was the same thing as not pledging allegiance

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Speaker 3: how does this translate into tones? Right? So we're like

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm trying to stay woke, but I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: And for me, I was in the thing just as

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Speaker 3: a visual I've been always been a visual artist. So

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Speaker 3: of something I love so much, I write it on

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Speaker 3: my clothes, just as like it's like I write on

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Speaker 3: my clothes, or like if like my roommate say Dancy

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Speaker 3: So it was like that's what it was. But I

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Speaker 3: remember very vividly I wrote stay Woke with a kiddie

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Speaker 3: remember I wrote it as a reminder not to kill myself,

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Speaker 3: I just have such a love for like being kind

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Speaker 3: if after I've been here on this planet, that they

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Speaker 3: people have strived to know theirself more that they know

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Speaker 3: who they are. They they value that they're special, that

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Speaker 3: It's wonderful. And then when people who are subscribed to

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Speaker 4: This is great. You know.

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Speaker 3: It's the new nigga where it's like they could say woke.

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Speaker 3: about Venezuela that's like, you know, seventeen years old, like

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Speaker 3: going through those things, right when they say that, that

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Speaker 3: And and the part that's scaries that there's more of

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Speaker 3: me everywhere. There's more people who have taken creative licenses

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Speaker 3: to not withhold their blackness for love, you know, not

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Speaker 3: loving themselves more than we wouldn't have this drama. People

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be hurting other people. You do your personal growth exercise,

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Speaker 6: So I heard this clip of Georgia Animaldreaux and you're

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Speaker 6: asking her about coining the term woke. Yeah, the turn

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Speaker 6: the story of the the original Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting that answer, and you know, because I'll

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So oftentimes the gatekeeping issue of like this language.

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Speaker 2: Of black folks, like once it enters the.

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Speaker 4: Mainstream John for instance, Yeah, then.

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Speaker 1: Suddling, it's over, Like it's over, you know, close the

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Speaker 1: like renewed sense of purpose of keeping it in with purpose,

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Speaker 1: you know, now that I know her definition of it,

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Speaker 1: of it all and of course at its ugliest, currently

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Speaker 1: being used as a way to weaponize or to describe,

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Speaker 2: Guess the coloquialism of just what we're supposed to.

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Speaker 1: You know, you hear woke politics or you know, but.

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Speaker 6: It's interesting too, because what when people are railing against

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Speaker 6: woke politics, they're like railing against humanism. Yeah, liket, they're

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Speaker 6: railing against caring about people who don't look like safe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a safe way.

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Speaker 6: It's the new inward right. I mean what in word

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Speaker 6: was for the nineties or whatever. Now it's like woke politics,

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Speaker 6: which you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but again hearing her describe what that means to

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Speaker 1: her and how that like saved her life, like.

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Speaker 4: Kind of literally saved their life.

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Speaker 6: And I know Georgia personally, she talked in that clip

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Speaker 6: back years and years and years. And when she said

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Speaker 6: Literally ended to me like, oh he fined. He didn't

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Speaker 4: Does, So we should just let it go and see

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Speaker 2: I think, see if the body.

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Speaker 6: I think we always have to strive for new ways

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Speaker 4: Like, well, does she want to fight for it?

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Speaker 4: It's a literal cultural weight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so to woke or not to woke. But I

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Speaker 1: hey man, you remember da da da da da.

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Speaker 2: And you're like, motherfucker. I wasn't of age yet.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if I was of it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what year this happened. My first record was

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Speaker 1: easy E all right, So that said Rick Ruben of course,

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Speaker 1: pro prior to of Deaf Jam. He decided when he

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Speaker 1: left Deaf Jam in eighty seven eighty eight he started

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Speaker 1: Deaf American eighty nine to ninety and literally held a

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Speaker 1: real funeral for the word death.

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Speaker 6: That might have been a one time, a funeral for

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Speaker 6: a word actually worked. That might have been a one time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I sort of felt some sort of way

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Speaker 1: because again, it's hip hop.

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Speaker 4: Slang, right, and who is he?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: But when I looked at the funeral, like it was

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Speaker 1: a bunch of rock cats, like some of his Slayer

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Speaker 1: friends some of the but like literally Rick Ruver is

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Speaker 1: sitting in front with I think he uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: like when you're mourning widow or whatever. Like yes, he

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Speaker 1: had a veil on and all those things. So it's

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Speaker 1: like cartoonishly over the top. So I didn't know how

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Speaker 1: to feel about that. But yeah, so Deaf had a funeral,

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Speaker 1: an actual funeral. Look it up, kids, But yeah, stay woke,

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Speaker 1: stay woke.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Quest Love Show is a production I

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