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Speaker 1: And we're welcome you into the dog Ball here in Maria, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: It is Jason Gidts Ats Andrew Gribble. It is the

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Speaker 1: best podcast available. It's a Wednesday here in Barre of

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Speaker 1: the day before Thanksgiving, and we are one day closer

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Speaker 1: to Brown's Steelers Part two. We all know the storylines

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Speaker 1: and we all know what's at stake between these two teams.

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Speaker 1: But first things first are Cleveland Brown's GRIBs have a

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Speaker 1: three game winning streak, including a very very impressive win

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Speaker 1: over oh Miami Dolphins, team that frankly they should have

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Speaker 1: beaten the way that they ended up being beaten. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he knows. It was the ideal performance you wanted. And

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Speaker 1: it reminded me a lot of the game last year

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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, where you you just jump on the team,

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Speaker 1: score when you're supposed to score, then maybe take your

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Speaker 1: foot off the gas a little bit, uh, kind of

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Speaker 1: team away and and let it let it go on

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Speaker 1: like that. The second blowout of the year the Browns

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Speaker 1: have had. Second time this year. You gave up a

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Speaker 1: garbage touchdown at the end to make the margin closer.

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Speaker 1: So really, you look at it. This was a twenty

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Speaker 1: that way. But you know, it's it's it's a good

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Speaker 1: game to get in your system before going to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no reason to feel down in a

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Speaker 1: winning effort, especially one where you won so convincingly. So

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Speaker 1: I think this team is in a good spot going

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Speaker 1: into the biggest game of the year. What was the

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Speaker 1: biggest not the b What was the best part of

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Speaker 1: Sunday's win for you? I think just the efficiency that

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Speaker 1: they showed in the red zone. I think that that

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Speaker 1: that they had some success in the red zone against

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, but you just got once you got inside

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Speaker 1: that twenty yard line, you you turn those into touchdown

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Speaker 1: second half, you had some issues there a little bit

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Speaker 1: it's just that the comfort and six tests that you

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Speaker 1: three games, ever since the Richard Higgins touched own at

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Speaker 1: the end of the Bills game, this has been a

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Speaker 1: much better team inside the twenty yard line, and I

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Speaker 1: you're seeing them run some passing plays in the red

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Speaker 1: zone that just have a lot higher success rate. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And and this team is just is executing better inside

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Speaker 1: You mentioned that third quarter, we got a little nervous,

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Speaker 1: just a little bit, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: they made the plays when they needed to. They stepped up,

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Speaker 1: they regained the momentum. Uh. It comes down to you

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Speaker 1: Baker has been really good since the bye week. With that,

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Speaker 1: bit of a swing there, and you can't have that

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Speaker 1: a level that we haven't seen all year. And again,

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Speaker 1: I know everyone brings up the opponent, but you know this,

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Speaker 1: just a really, really good home team. Right now, we'll

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Speaker 1: don't see those plays happening with Myles Garrett and everyone

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Speaker 1: no replacing a Miles Garrett. I mean, it's just it's

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Speaker 1: just it just looks different. Yeah, it just looks different

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Speaker 1: been a complete game record against one of the worst

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Speaker 1: a little a little nervy because the Steelers have a

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Speaker 1: Alejandro Villaneueva, who's one of the better tackles in the league.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a bigger challenge for Chad Thomas to

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Speaker 1: Bermuda triangle known as the dog Pound end of the

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Speaker 1: I just wonder what something has something structurally changed this

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Speaker 1: Every single one of Austin Cyber's misses the season has

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Speaker 1: you're in the playoffs if you win this game, all right,

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Speaker 1: If the Browns are to win Sunday at Heinz Field,

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Speaker 1: throw in a Cody Kestler for a game against the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: he plays really well and then eventually they come down

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Speaker 1: never in a million years anticipated playing in eatingful games

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. All Right, it is rivalry weekend.

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Speaker 1: You got Buckeyes Wolverines on Saturday, you got Browns and Steelers.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday, we are taking the bus and we're driving

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Speaker 1: ourselves over to Pittsburgh and in a battle with the

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Speaker 1: Steelers in an elimination game. For Andrew Gribble, for me,

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Speaker 1: Jason Gibbs, how about that. I'm used to normally having

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