1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: The most significant story in US history, the elections of 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Today, I have Professor David Clements on the 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: David Rutherford Show. One of my favorite things to do 4 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: with my show is to bring context to my audience, 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: to give them the full story. And as we move 6 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty six election cycle, I think the 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: full story needs to be broaden to go back and 8 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: include the intensity of what we saw in the fraudulent 9 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty elections. Now, I understand that many of you 10 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: have a lot of things you've heard or seen that 11 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: you believe can discredit the information that the mountainous amount 12 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: of information that has been piled by many different sources 13 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: in many different ways. One recent is the book by 14 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: Ralph Pazzulo with Gary Burnston called Stolen Elections. There's other 15 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: information that Mike Lindell has brought forth. But until recently 16 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: I had been following one man in particular, mister David, 17 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: Professor David Clements, and he has been on the campaign 18 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: to try and bring this vast amount of information to 19 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: the entire country. He's given over two hundred evidentiary presentations 20 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: in forty seven different states, and he does so in 21 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: a way that's consumable and digestible. So what I wanted 22 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: to do as we kick this off, because this will 23 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: become a major focus of this show for the foreseeable 24 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: future in order to prepare the American public for what 25 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: they might and will not what they might what they 26 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: will face in future elections. So, without further ado, I'm 27 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: so honored to bring on award winning professor, criminal prosecutor 28 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: and my favorite, which is a gray haired punk rocker. 29 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: As a fellow punk rocker, I've got a Social Distortion 30 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: tattoo all down my side there. It is such an 31 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: honor to have you on, sir. 32 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: Hey David, it's good to be with you. I love 33 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: Social Distortion. I'm glad to hear that. In fact, the 34 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: band that I played and we tried to get their 35 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: guitar tone, so Marshall Les Paul type guitars. 36 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 3: I got him on the wall. 37 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit of that rockabilly with that undertone 38 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: kick to it, that West Coast punk rock a little bit. Yeah, Yeah, 39 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: that's awesome. Well, it's so glad to have you on. 40 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: The documentary that I was referencing is let my people Go, 41 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: and obviously just you didn't just go from being a 42 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: professor in New Mexico to being one of the leading 43 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: advocates to bring awareness to the American public. So can 44 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: you really briefly explain how you got from that point 45 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: to where you started to realize, WHOA, I need to 46 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: look at what's taking place in the election system. 47 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 48 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: The canalyst for me was I was a long time 49 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: prosecutor here on the border, so I lived about thirty 50 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: minutes north of Mexico. And you can't you just can't 51 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: do the types of cases that I did unless you're 52 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: very familiar with trafficking, whether it's human trafficking, drug trafficking, 53 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: and twenty twenty. You know, if you take out the 54 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 2: drugs and just put in votes or ballots, it's vote trafficking. 55 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: And so it just streamed, you know, it's just a 56 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: I had a very clear vision of what was going on, 57 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: and I had run for office over a decade ago, 58 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: and when I ran, it was the introduction of dominion 59 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: in my home state. And I just remember being up 60 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: in a US Senate race fourteen thousand votes against my opponent, 61 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: and the next time that the election night reporting came 62 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: up on the website, the votes flipped. Now it was 63 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: completely abstract to me. Then we call up the Secretary 64 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: of State's office what just happened, and like, oh, we 65 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: hadn't counted the mail in ballots yet, that's what accounted for. 66 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: But I'm sitting there going, how can five minutes time 67 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: elapse and have a complete switch. The precision of it 68 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: always jarred me, but at the time I didn't have 69 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: any real skepticism. That's just I was kind of a 70 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: product of my environment and I just took them at 71 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: their word. But there were moments from that night until 72 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: twenty twenty where I was always wrestling with this abstract 73 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: puzzle of like what the hell happened in my own race? 74 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: That I think prepared me for November three, you know, 75 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 2: Dominion all of a sudden took on new life, the 76 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: anomalies that everyone saw, And I think the thing that 77 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: really got my attention to the most was the censorship, 78 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: the fact that people were just shut down, which just 79 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: got my hackles up. So, you know, I had been 80 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: living a fairly benign life as a law professor and 81 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: enjoying my career. The stakes were low. The only thing 82 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: that I really had to worry about were kids, you know, 83 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: complaining about the grades that they got, and it was 84 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: such a refreshing change from doing murder cases and being 85 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: underpaid and underappreciated for the better part of my career. 86 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: But I felt like I was being called into a 87 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: fight where while there were professors that definitely had better 88 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: credentials that went to better schools, there was just a 89 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: vacuum of people willing to risk saying out loud what 90 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: they intuitively new. And so I guess after leaving that 91 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: environment of being a prosecutor, and I could kind of 92 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: see the change at the university setting from the standpoint 93 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 2: of like, if you want to see woke policies in 94 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: kind of the incubation stage, you go to the university. 95 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: And that's where I was. 96 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: So you could see all of the after effects of 97 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: critical theory or a critical race theory. You could see 98 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: what was going on with the you know, the push 99 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: to make sure you treat they them a certain way. 100 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there going, I don't think I want 101 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: to be a professor if I have to kind of 102 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: bow the knee and start using people's pronouns. And it 103 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: was just it was hostile. And when the fix was 104 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: in on election night, you would have thought that demons 105 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: in my university were just shrieking with joy. I mean, 106 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: they were just I didn't really understand how much contempt 107 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: they had for Trump, but it was, it was loud, 108 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: and it was apparent, and I was kind of just 109 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: grieved because I always kept my politics to myself. I've 110 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: always been kind of a small l libertarian. I wasn't 111 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: a Trump guy in twenty sixteen. So it was one 112 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: of those things where I'm sitting there going, I think 113 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: number one, I got the man wrong. And I learned 114 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: that over the first term. By the time we were 115 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: about halfway through, I'm like, actually like this guy. I'm 116 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: when I vote for him, But in my environment, it's very, 117 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: very dangerous to voice that as a as a professor. 118 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: So everything kind of slowed down, and I started pushing 119 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: back in the university first and foremost, which put a 120 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: huge bullsye on my back. And then when January sixth happened, 121 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: I really had a supernatural encounter, is the best way 122 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: I can describe it. When our countrymen were protesting this 123 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: stolen election in Washington, d C. I was at my 124 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: cabin in Ridoso, New Mexico, and after Mitch McConnell, Mitt Romney, 125 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: Kelly Loffler basically stabbed the country in the back. I 126 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: was so sickened that I thought that that was the 127 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: death of our country. There's something on a spiritual level 128 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: that that felt. The grieved me in a way that 129 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever felt. The closest thing I 130 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: can describe it is, while I didn't watch Game of Thrones, 131 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: I read the books and there's the Red wedding where 132 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: you're sitting there going, oh my gosh, the betrayal here 133 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: is just insane. I felt that second. And so I 134 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: go out in the woods and something happens. I won't 135 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: go into it, but it changes me. It rocks me, 136 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: like it's like the closest encounter that I had to 137 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: the presence of God, of a purpose and a callow 138 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: And so I come back and my wife is despondent 139 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: because she saw what I saw on the screen. And 140 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: I ended up recording a response to my university president 141 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: who condemned all of the Trump supporters as trying to 142 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: pull off a coup, and I responded to them, and 143 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 2: I put up a video kind of like a giant 144 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: f U video. Because I started collecting all of these 145 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: clips and teeth for people that were there that were 146 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: bragging about their agitation. And as soon as you put 147 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: something out, the Internet would scrub the video. You can 148 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: find it. So I had like this library of a 149 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: ton of videos. I'm like, no, this is a false flag. 150 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: And I think I was really sensitive to it because 151 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: I had done a series of active shooter trainings as 152 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: a prosecutor. Every year you'd have to go into the 153 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: courtroom and you'd have to, you know, have blockers and 154 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: rolls to simulate an event in the event that the 155 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: courthouse was attacked. And I'm sitting there going this is 156 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: like glorified active shooter training, and there's no way you 157 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: could have convinced me otherwise because of that experience. And 158 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: so I put out the video and at this point 159 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: I had I'm like an award win. This an award 160 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: winning that I've got one of the highest rated professors. 161 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: Even the liberal folks, they just assumed I was liberal 162 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: by the way I look. They come into my office, 163 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: they'd want legal advice. I mean, I'm fairly well liked. 164 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: And after I posted that video, forget it. It was over. 165 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: My career was effectively over, and the bullseye got even 166 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: bigger because I went on Tucker Carlson's show, right, and 167 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: in five minutes, everything that I had built up from 168 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: a career trajectory was over when I went on his show. 169 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: And so I knew my time was going to be 170 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: short lived because I've seen how these people play. 171 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: It's just it's dirty. 172 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: And again I didn't want to do the zoom teaching either, 173 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: so part of me was like, I was so sickened 174 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: by the COVID mandates of walk this direction, go in 175 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: that door, but don't go in that door, that I'm like, 176 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: I didn't sign up for this. I mean, I had 177 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: a dream job of being a professor, but it wasn't 178 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: this version. And then the other thing that really impacted 179 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: me was I was a consumer protection expert, so the 180 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: COVID stuff, I would have been the biggest hypocrite on 181 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: planet Earth if I ignored all the things that were 182 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: going on with masking. And so yeah, you know, my 183 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: career as a professor was short lived. And then I 184 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: started interviewing kind of like in the old prosecution days. 185 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: I would have set up a case, I would have 186 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: done a proof analysis. I would have found witnesses and 187 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 2: interviewed them. I'm like, well, I'm not a public servant anymore, 188 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 2: but I can interview someone that submitted an affidavit, or 189 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: I can talk to an attorney and picked their brain. 190 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: So I quickly created kind of the probably the biggest 191 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: long form library in twenty twenty one of experts that 192 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: were either attorneys or did the technical work. And within 193 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: six months, you know, I was kind of sought after 194 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: because the views on some of these videos were like 195 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: seven hundred, eight hundred thousand years for nobody. 196 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 3: I wasn't even on social media. 197 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: And so there's like this part where kind of conservative 198 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: inc Is seeing my rise and they're trying to figure 199 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: out whether they can kind of break me in to 200 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: be a part of the club. And there's certain third 201 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: rails that you just can't touch. And so they liked 202 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: my story. They liked the fact that I'm conservative, they 203 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: liked that I was articulate, but they were really bothered 204 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: by any discussion of the voting machines. That was like 205 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: the thing that you just had to stay. It was unspoken. 206 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: And so I'm surviving and then I get to the 207 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: cyber symposium. The first one and which I look back now, 208 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: was a giant trap laid by operators to implode the 209 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: movement right out the gates, but we survived it miraculously, 210 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: and so that was kind of my introduction to the 211 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: world from an election integrity standpoint. But as soon as 212 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: I left that stage bar complaints trying to strip me 213 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: of my license, the hit pieces started coming. And for 214 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: the next year or two kind of felt like a 215 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: man on an island because there are so many people 216 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: with bigger megaphones that I thought were heroes to the country, 217 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: and they ignored this issue. So I've been kind of 218 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: consumed with it. But to wrap up, we got a 219 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: happy ending in January of this year with a blanket 220 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: pardon for most of the January sixth protesters, which was huge. 221 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: So I spend most of my time now when I'm 222 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: not putting out articles trying to fortify our elections going 223 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: forward with national security experts that I've met and become 224 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: friends with. 225 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: That is an absolute phenomenal story in terms of like 226 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: what I always think about. I mean, I come from 227 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: a similar I think mine happened probably ten years prior 228 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: to everybody you know, I had gone in you know, 229 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: my first trip to Afghanistan was the summer O two 230 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: and you know, after I remember hearing the stories about 231 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: the Drawbreaker team, Gary Bernstein's team, the ground Branch team, 232 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: the Delta guys that were chasing Bin Laden and then 233 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: he just magically slips away. And I remember being on 234 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: the ground trying to I was the intel guy, trying 235 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: to get information about all right, well, where do we 236 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: pursue them. We tried to do, you know, submit some 237 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: operations to go and you know, watch the border of 238 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: Queta and spin Bulldock in southeastern Afghanistan, which was an 239 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: exit point in particular for the Talban. We tried all 240 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: these things that they just kept getting shot down, shot down, 241 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: shot down. And so I was like, wait a minute, 242 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: this isn't even a year after nine to eleven, and 243 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: like we know where the enemy is, why can't we 244 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: go after him? And there was no explanation, and so 245 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's weird. Then I go back the 246 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: second time in five with Blackwater, and I'm a part 247 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: of the counter drug commandos and training them and mentoring 248 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: them on missions, and we know, I go on several 249 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: missions where there's nobody. 250 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: There and I'm like, wait a minute, why wait this? 251 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: You know, we have access to DEA files and all this, 252 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: and you know, we know it. And then I remember, 253 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, talking to one of DA guys and they're like, oh, 254 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: you think this is real? You think this is this 255 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: is like, we're we're going to damage ninety five percent 256 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: of the Afghan GDP And he goes, did you ever 257 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: hear about the Phoenix program. 258 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: And in Vietnam? I'm like a little bit, I don't. 259 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: I don't really know, and and so that opened my eyes, 260 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: like oh, and that's just about when the opah hood 261 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: crisis began to kick off in America with cheap opium 262 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: from Afghanistan. Then the final coupdi graph for me was 263 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: working for the agency and in twenty ten and twenty 264 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: eleven and being in Pakistan and twenty eleven and the 265 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: drone strikes that were just just unleashed all over the world, 266 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean, more drone strikes than we ever did before. 267 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: And it was just like, you know, going and looking 268 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: at the BDA and going, wait a minute, you know 269 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: what's going on here, and just really began to understand 270 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: that what I thought I knew was not what was 271 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: actually going on, and that really began to shape it. 272 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: And then I think really within probably when the IRS 273 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: scandal against conservative libertarian nonprofits started, I was like, oh, 274 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: this is internal as well too, And at first I 275 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: just kind of wrote it off as as all right, 276 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: this is just the way different political parties operate. 277 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: There's always something. 278 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: But then you know it, it really began to shift 279 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: and you started to see kind of these color revolutions 280 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: emerge around the world, and you know, and what they 281 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: were attached to and whatever. And then for me, the 282 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: really the final point where I was just like, no, 283 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: this is this is bigger than anything I could ever imagine, 284 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: was the investigations into Trump, uh and then how Clinton 285 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: was handled with all of her classified material or her server, 286 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: how that went away. Then it focused on Trump as 287 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: a Russian asset, which was just on face, just the 288 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: most bizarre thing I'd ever. 289 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 3: And that was it. 290 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: After that, I've never gone back and been like, all right, 291 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: our institutions are intact. There's there's a consistency of governance 292 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: that's for the people, you know, and you know, you 293 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: combine in the other aspect the eight bailouts of corporations 294 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and you just if you're paying 295 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: attention in any not even in depth, like you don't 296 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: even have to get into it in the in the 297 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: manner with which you've gotten into it or some of 298 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: these other people. But just on this surface, if you're 299 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: paying attention, you begin to add it all together and 300 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: you realize what we understand to be true is just 301 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: not true. It's a it's a manipulated form of reality. 302 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: And I love how in the documentary Let My People Go, 303 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: you talk about how to teach kids to discern lies 304 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: from truth, and the quote was in it's it's you 305 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: dream of breaking through the feed which keeps us asleep? 306 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: Can you just talk about that quest and what you 307 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: mean by that? 308 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I think the film opens up 309 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 2: with a propaganda trailer, right, and and you know, and 310 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 2: once you get done with the theater, I'm sitting in 311 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: the middle of it, surrounded by people that are just paralyzed, 312 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: right because they're they're receiving the story. And I can't 313 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 2: tell you how many people have seen the film have 314 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: come up to me and have resonated with that, like 315 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 2: just feeling that like they're alone. Like everyone at the 316 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving table. Some are jabbed, some aren't, you know, some 317 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 2: people can talk about Trump, some people lose their minds. 318 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: And I think the quest for me started quite a 319 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: bit before twenty twenty nine to eleven. You know, my 320 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: wife's a structural engineer, so Building seven presented problems. And 321 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: I just remember feeling so silly about how you kind 322 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: of have to do this dance to talk to people 323 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: about you know, what do you think about that? And 324 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 2: how you know it's it's like a scene out of 325 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 2: the Matrix where people start glitching because you can't there's 326 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: something about the programming. We can't talk about that, And 327 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 2: also wrestling with my own probably cowardice that I you know, 328 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: I don't want to make waves if I'm beyond and 329 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: you know, and I came from a pretty dysfunctional background, 330 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: so I wasn't in a place of ly readership. I 331 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: mean I was stalking, you know, grocery shelves, so it's 332 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: not like I had the weight of the world. Like 333 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: I'll be the one to prove to you the problem 334 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 2: about nine to eleven. But I mean, just remember, just 335 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: in casual conversation, like I know in my heart that 336 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: what I saw isn't real. I know in my heart 337 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: that this guy named w if he's not evil, he's 338 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: controlled by evil people, and that journey developed and it 339 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: was like I'd get a red pill each year. I mean, 340 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: I wasn't taking the whole bottle at once, like my 341 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: brother's a complete conspiracy theorist, but he took the bottle 342 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: all at once, and it was always telling me like, 343 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: you know, it's the end of the world, this end 344 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 2: of the world that, and it wasn't a very healthy way, 345 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: but I was phased in. And the second big structural 346 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 2: shift in the way that I thought about politics was 347 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve. And my long paper in law school 348 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: was on whether the Federal Reserve had ever received a 349 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 2: meaningful audit. And you know, the answer to that is no. 350 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: But when you realize that seventy four percent of economic literature, 351 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: at least at the time, is FED sponsored, you'll find 352 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: out that there's no criticism of the FED. So I 353 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: was trying to look for source material that question about 354 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: whether or not centralized planning was a good or bad idea, 355 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: and you couldn't find anything. You'd have to go to 356 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: the Mesas Institute. You'd have to listen to Ron Paul, 357 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: And I just remember submitting that paper to professors that 358 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: were like adherents of kinesy and economics, and it's like 359 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: they're just looking at me with kind of disgust, like 360 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 2: why would you why would you write this type of thing? Yes, 361 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 2: but I remember being offended by that because you'd have 362 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: politicians talking about the bridge to nowhere and pork barrel spending, 363 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 2: but the amounts were like, you know, a million bucks here, 364 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 2: I mean start still large dollar amounts. But you compare 365 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 2: that with Congressman Alan Grayson grilling the Inspector General of 366 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve on where nine trillion dollars went, and 367 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: she had no answer for it. And I'm sitting there 368 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: watching the hearing and I'm looking around. I'm like, nothing 369 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: that we talk about from policy, from a policy standpoint, 370 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 2: from an economic standpoint, makes any sense. It's all noise. 371 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,239 Speaker 2: It's all theater. So the depression kind of sets in 372 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: on like, Okay, I'm definitely unplugged from the matrix. But 373 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: it still was abstract because it hadn't affected me personally. 374 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 3: Not yet. 375 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: And when I became a prosecutor, that was really when 376 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: you were talking about your experience in the overseas theaters 377 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: of war. For me, as a civilian prosecutor, realizing how 378 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 2: much power the cartels had over my office, over the judges. 379 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 2: You kind of go in with these aspirational ideas of 380 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 2: I'm going to be a white hat, I'm going to 381 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 2: be a person that's gonna fight for the truth, and 382 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: you're sitting there going, my god, my district attorney that 383 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: I work for is more corrupt than anyone that I've prosecuted. 384 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: And this was also around the time that Edward Snowden 385 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: had the revelations of prism, and prism was a tool 386 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: used by Special Operations divisions, and I headed up a 387 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: task force that included the DEA you know, as a 388 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: Heida attorney, so it was high intensity drug trafficking areas. 389 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: I was the senior attorney for three counties here on 390 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: the border, and we'd have these hits where people would 391 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: go to locations and have seizures of drugs. I'm sitting 392 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: there going, how in the world did you all know 393 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 2: to bring a drug dog to a propane tank in 394 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: the middle of Pepper's grocery store? Like someone just explained 395 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: to me what prompted you to do that? And you know, 396 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: you'd end up pulling that thread right and next thing, 397 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: you know, you're you're almost one hundred percent certain that 398 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: they're using PRISM as a tool in my cases. And 399 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: the problem with that is that they were teaching the 400 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 2: agent's parallel reconstruction, so they were fudging their reports to 401 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 2: never let people know or tip them off that they 402 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: were using the tool, which violated the accused confrontation rights, 403 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 2: It violated Brady, it violated all kinds of laws. So 404 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: I'm sitting there going wow. For about six years, almost 405 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: every case in year is probably questionable from a standpoint 406 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: of whether the convictions. So I had a crisis of conscience. 407 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 2: Then where I remember it like it was yesterday. The 408 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: task force comes in. It's like I seen from Sacario. 409 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: These guys had just got out of the gym, they 410 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: got their gear, and it's clear they want to intimidate 411 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: me as a young attorney, letting me know how things work, 412 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: that they're the ones that get the drugs off the street, 413 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: they're the ones, and I'm just being gas lit all 414 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: to hell. And come to find out that many of 415 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: them were selling drugs out of the evidence lockers because 416 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 2: of the trial. They were funding their own operations. And 417 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: I remember just looking at them and I told them 418 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to dismiss all these cases that I found 419 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: where I felt the tools being used and that didn't 420 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: bother them at all, which is a problem, I said, 421 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: But unlike the dismissals you're used to, because it's called 422 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 2: a nolle prosequi, which is basically in the interest of justice, 423 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: you dismiss it. You don't provide any factual basis for 424 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 2: why you're doing it. It's under the discretion of the 425 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: acting attorney. I said, I'm going to identify you all publicly, 426 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: and I did this in ten cases, and I walked 427 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: it over to the courthouse and I met with the 428 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: judge in that district and I told him that I'm 429 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 2: dismissing these cases, and I want you to know I'm 430 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 2: not corrupt. So because some people could accuse me of 431 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 2: dismissing the case, I'm doing something's like I identify them. 432 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: I want you to know all I know he could 433 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: have been cartel bot, but I knew I could not 434 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: be a drug prosecutor on the border with the task 435 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: force that I was using. And then I wrote up 436 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: a memo, took the cases over to the Public Defender's 437 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: office and told them, if you guys care about your clients. 438 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: You should appeal every drug conviction in this jurisdiction going 439 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: back six years wow, and had a meeting with the 440 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 2: district attorney. This was a gal that was a user. 441 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: There was a civilian recording of her weaving in and 442 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: out of traffic driving a state car and they call 443 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: in state troopers to come in and she's practicing her 444 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 2: field sobriety test. So you put it all together. And 445 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: I remember telling her because I wanted to be a 446 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: white hat prosecutor, one of the good guys, and I 447 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 2: remember having to tell her, like, do not dismiss this case. 448 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: If this agent comes to you over my head and 449 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: tries to get rid of this, there you know they're corrupt. 450 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: So I was fighting my own agency, Oh my gosh, 451 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: and told her I was liked, look, if you want 452 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: to fight corruption in her office, I'll stay. 453 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: If you don't, I'm gone. 454 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: And of course she didn't care, because you know, it's 455 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: one of those things where you're trying to pick a 456 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 2: jury for a DWI case and the entire community knows 457 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: that your boss got away with it. So these are 458 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: the types of things that kind of informed and it 459 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 2: breaks your heart because you're sitting there going where do 460 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: I go? Like, because there was a way to do 461 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 2: the job and get paid and come home and just 462 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: kind of go through the motions. They would let you 463 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: get low level convictions of mules, but they would time things. 464 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: They would know which board patrol agent was bought off 465 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 2: to make sure that when the big loads came in 466 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: they weren't going to check that car. And the money 467 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: that they had funding their operation was embarrassing compared to 468 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: what we had. So we would have like binoculars looking 469 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 2: into these desert patches and they be looking back at 470 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: us with gear yeah, gimp red, hologram sites, yeah, night vision, 471 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 2: yeah for sure. So all of that to say that, 472 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 2: you know the you know, once you've had your heart 473 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 2: broken about you know, the way that you thought the 474 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: world works, you can functions. It's like you're kind of 475 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: dead to the world and as long as you don't 476 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: care what it thinks, you can operate. But if you're 477 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: torn between the two worlds of I want to be accepted, 478 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: I want the promotion, then it's soul fracturing. And I 479 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: think by the time twenty twenty came around, I was 480 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: so sickened that I just didn't care. I didn't care 481 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: if I got fired. I didn't care if the papers 482 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: wrote something about me. It's like, why the hell am 483 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: I even on this planet? If I've got to pretend 484 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: that what I at the universe or what happened on 485 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: election night is real, I'm not okay with this. And 486 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: so it was kind of all in. I was all in. 487 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: And you have to count the cost on how you're 488 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: going to be attacked, how your family's going to be attacked. 489 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: And so I have from death threats to witches and 490 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: warlocks cursing weird stuff that I mean, I can't even 491 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: explain the stuff that's happened on a spiritual level to 492 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: my family, the protection we've received from prayer warriors. It's 493 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: been the most surreal five year journey where not only 494 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: did my career just implode, but I'm also like on 495 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: a private jet riding with Mike Lindille, I'm having dinner 496 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: with President Trump, I'm across a table from General Flynn. 497 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to Dallas having lunch with City pal And 498 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 2: everyone's got their own battles and their own perfections, Like 499 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: none of these people are perfect. You find out that 500 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: they're just like you. Like they're manipulated. Syop after syop, 501 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: so much information was thrown my way that was garbage, 502 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: and you're sifting through it. So you know, there's a 503 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: period of probably a year where you're just seeing red, 504 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: like the paranoia. I mean, people cannot understand the level 505 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: of paranoia. And there was a season where I try 506 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: to master that because I'm sitting there going I don't 507 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: trust anyone. I don't trust anything, and the enemy is 508 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: probably really happy with that outcome. And I think around 509 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: mid twenty twenty two, I just kind of had a 510 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: quiet conversation with God about all right, how do I 511 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: do this? How do I operate? Because this is so different. 512 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: Not only is the government not going to save us, 513 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: they're the biggest threat to my existence. And that's hard 514 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 2: to say, is a long time government process, Like the 515 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: biggest danger are people with badges and a printing press. 516 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: So in the film, it was important to talk about 517 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: those spiritual dynamics but also the psychological ones because a 518 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: lot of people are sitting there going, why don't you 519 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: just get right to the elections? So just get right 520 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: to it. And what they don't realize is that I've 521 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: done so many evidence presentations where I would have people 522 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: and I could answer all of their questions and their 523 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: response would be, if you're right, then how come a 524 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: judge didn't take the case. And that was their argument. 525 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: So if you don't address that psychological aspect of yeah, 526 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: because the judiciary is captured, that's why. But you have 527 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: to lay it out for them. You actually have to 528 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: show them the Milgram test, the ash Line test, and 529 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: show like I'm not crazy, like this is documented science 530 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: where people will go with the nine times out of 531 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: ten if it means, you know, they might look silly 532 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: to the world. 533 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 3: David. 534 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: It's absolutely just unbelievable what you were exposed to, what 535 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: you had to go through, and what you were able 536 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: to endure. And I cannot wait to dig deeper into 537 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: this and what emerged out of it, what strength came 538 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: out of you. 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I mean, obviously, if you 580 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: become a member of the Special Operations community, you're gonna 581 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: have to ingest a fair sheriff in doctrination, right uh, 582 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: to just you know, be pointed in a direction and 583 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: to go, you know, after whoever they tell you to 584 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: go after in the. 585 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 3: Ways with which we do. 586 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: And then at the intelligence agency you have to become 587 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: comfortable with You don't need to know that, just go 588 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: do what I tell you to do right, and that 589 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: hyper compartmentalization, you know, and and what you know, it's 590 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 1: a it's a completely different way that they in doctrinate 591 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: case officers, that the way they indoctrinate special operations. But 592 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: you have to fuse those together, and you had the 593 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: they're dependent upon one core principles of that never quit, 594 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: highly dangerous, high risk operational mindset, to shut up and 595 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: just do what we tell you. 596 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 3: You don't need to know why, you know, and. 597 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: So like, it took me a long time to unravel that, 598 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: and it was also a part of my own spiritual 599 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: faith that ended up doing that as well too, and 600 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: which took me probably from twenty twelve two to really 601 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen eighteen, when I when I met 602 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: my new wife, who was a person who's fundamentally imbued, 603 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: imbued with the recognition of her own truth, which is 604 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: her faith and her family and her deeds, and so 605 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: that really helped me kind of cross the line of it. 606 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: But in context of of these other UH systems that 607 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: were were fundamentally broken to their core right and the 608 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: big ones we're not just talking, you know, the operational 609 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: systems of a particular region or area, but like the 610 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: big systems and you know how we uh partner with 611 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: criminal elements to elicit intelligence that fulfills the need we 612 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: want for particular shift or change in a particular government 613 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: and a coverable color revolution. 614 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 3: Right, like you're starting, wait a minute, whoa we're doing what? 615 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: And and and it's that poll, it's that spiritual poll. 616 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 3: It's it's it's you know, it's. 617 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: That hey, you know this is wrong, but and you 618 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: know you're being betrayed, but you still have to feed 619 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: your family. You you have these skill sets that are 620 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: value able in a particular well, they're they're they're a 621 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: derivative of that system. And you're in this sense of 622 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: betrayal of yourself, the system, and and your overall. 623 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 3: What is it? 624 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: It's that it's that desire not to want to let 625 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: go of of the comfort of of ignorance. 626 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 3: Right, that cognitive dissonance. 627 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: It's everything that you're saying, like I resonate with so strongly, 628 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 2: because there really is there has to be. You have 629 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 2: to be okay with the death of self. Yeah, it's 630 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 2: the only way that you can navigate beautiful. But what 631 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 2: you're talking about, because if you're split down the middle. 632 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 2: You're of no use to your family, you're of no 633 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 2: use to the world, you're definitely of no use to God. 634 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 2: And you know, so it's a lone it's a very 635 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 2: lonely place because you're you're spending most of your time 636 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 2: in your own head and and from the outside it's 637 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 2: like you think, looks okay, but your soul's. 638 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 3: Damaged, right. 639 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 2: And I think that's what was probably the biggest learning 640 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: curve for me in transitioning from a public servant as 641 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 2: a prosecutor. Even though I had law enforcement bona fides 642 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 2: and I had a badge and I had undercover agents, 643 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 2: I was still working with the premise that the government, 644 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 2: at least my idea of parts of it, are the 645 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 2: good guys and these are bad guys. And once you 646 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 2: disabuse of yourself with the notion no, no, actually, that's 647 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 2: a high value target for Satan, that's a high value 648 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 2: target for infiltration. And that was probably the biggest growth 649 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 2: in my discernment over five years, is that in a 650 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 2: nation state game, and when you talk about elections, it's 651 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 2: as nation state as it gets. It doesn't get any 652 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 2: more nation state. I'm telling you right now, I've talked 653 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 2: about COVID and elections out of the too. It's far 654 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 2: more dangerous to talk about rigged elections. 655 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: Can I can I ask you one a reference, because 656 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: Jordy and I were talking before. I you know, the 657 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: way I kind of assess it right now is the 658 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: JAB itself was a global scale of betrayal, right, five 659 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 1: billion people injecting that poison into themselves, gene altering, gene 660 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: editing substances that had no no efficacy, no nothing, as 661 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: as as a play for compliance, right, as an an 662 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: idea of compliance, as well as as who knows whatever 663 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, nefarious ideas that are underneath it. I mean, 664 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: obviously when you dig into you know, the fact that 665 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: DARPA made it, how they export it, that whole thing. 666 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean, like that, that's mind blowing. But but that's 667 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: like humanity. But this itself and what I firmly believe, 668 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: and I believe this and in all of my everything 669 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: in my being, that America represents the last bash before 670 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 1: total chaos. Right. 671 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 3: It's the thing that gives the rest of at least us. 672 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,919 Speaker 1: It gives us hope that there is still a framework 673 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: that can be rebuilt or reconstituted if enough people get 674 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: behind and have this awakening, have this sense of the 675 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: regain what it's regaining, a truth of what you know 676 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: is true versus what you want to believe. Right that 677 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: it can it can happen here that in five hundred 678 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,919 Speaker 1: million guns and you know, who knows, maybe like two 679 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 1: trillion rounds of ammunition also have a nice buffer system 680 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: to it. But do you think of it in that 681 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: context or do you really like, how do you rate 682 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: the intensity of what it means that our election systems. 683 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 3: I mean, if you if you believe what. 684 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: Gary's research does in terms of seventy six foreign countries 685 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: have been manipulated, in particular South Central America, and then 686 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: you have what they asked them. They've said tens of 687 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: thousands of little and big elections in America since twenty eleven. 688 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: And that is that, in your mind, the greatest challenge 689 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: that we have in in not only in America but 690 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: in the world. 691 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 2: I do, and I think that's why it's so jealously 692 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 2: guarded by legacy media. Why most of the appointments from 693 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 2: Obama and you know, to the degree the Republicans got 694 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 2: those appointments wrong, they themselves were part of the problem 695 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 2: to create gatekeepers. So from a standpoint of who signs 696 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 2: off on what people can do from you know, cases 697 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: that you would you would receive through intake as a share, 698 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 2: you find out that Sorosa's grease the skids and put 699 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 2: people in strategic places in swing states, and so you 700 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 2: start looking at this like it's a giant matrix of 701 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 2: how would you undermine a country? And they are so 702 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 2: systematically disciplined and how they did it. That's why it 703 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 2: was so hard to believe because people were sitting there 704 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 2: going twenty twenty, surely this is just garden variety fraud 705 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 2: that we caught in a few places, but it's not 706 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 2: the entire thing. CEO said that, right, yeah, and so 707 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 2: they would concede that, and you know, and you're sitting 708 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 2: there going, no, the data tells a much much different story. 709 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 2: So to me, it's it's kind of like I look 710 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 2: at this from a kingdom standpoint, like Kingdom of heaven, 711 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 2: kingdom of darkness, the old stories are the true ones, right, 712 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 2: And I look at humanity and I look at at 713 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 2: you know, just like God's got his angels, He's got 714 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 2: believers that can be vessels for righteousness to imbue a 715 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 2: country with virtue, and you have the same thing on 716 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 2: the other side. You've got people that are being used 717 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 2: by something evil. It's a demonic spirit that works in 718 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 2: and through them, and that's what accounts for people that 719 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 2: when you talk with them, facts come out of your mouth. 720 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 2: You've got all of the arguments, you're right, you're substantively right, 721 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 2: and their eyes glaze over and they don't care, like 722 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,760 Speaker 2: what accounts for that? Because that's really the focal point 723 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 2: of If this is just about rationality and reason, we win. 724 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 2: So and it's not enough to say that Biden's dumb 725 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 2: or Kamala is an idiot. It's like, no, right, they're performing. 726 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,919 Speaker 2: They're performing, and what is idiocy to use because they 727 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 2: are not acting rationally or in conformance with the truth. 728 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 2: It's like, no, we're actually the idiots because we don't 729 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 2: realize that we're being played and manipulated by them, and 730 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 2: we engage into perception theater by you know, parroting a 731 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 2: story that we see on Fox News or parroting a 732 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 2: story that we see on CNN, as if we should 733 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 2: ever use those entities to affirm reality. Right, So I 734 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 2: look at you know, you got the two kingdoms, and 735 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 2: then you've got something that Satan has always been into 736 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 2: subjugation and slavery, and the quality of slave is different 737 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 2: than it was in the Civil War. We don't need 738 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 2: the strong, fit African American male in chains, we don't 739 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 2: need to beat them. We'll do the exact opposite. We're 740 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 2: going to use white, weak beta males. We're going to 741 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 2: feed their senses with pleasure, not pain, and we're still 742 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 2: going to rip them off fifty to sixty cents on 743 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: the dollar. That's a pretty good return. And as long 744 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 2: as we can keep them fed with garbage food, give 745 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 2: them Netflix for cheap, they'll show up to their job 746 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 2: and we'll keep taking from them. It's a parasitic type 747 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 2: of environment. So when you look at it that way, 748 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 2: the machines writ large I'm talking about the entire system 749 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 2: is the slave master's new whip. It's the tool, and 750 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 2: it's what makes everything go. So when I say that 751 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 2: this is more important than COVID, it's not to diminish 752 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 2: the loss of human life and the bioweapon treachery. What 753 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm talking about is that the slave master tool is 754 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 2: ground zero for perception on policymaking, whether someone's elected or selected. 755 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:45,240 Speaker 2: So every issue you care about, whether it's babies, bibles, bullets, COVID, 756 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 2: they're all downstream from that black box that no one 757 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 2: will let you audit. So whoever controls the black box 758 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 2: controls the economy. They control the House, the Senate, the Judiciary, 759 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 2: they control the talking points, they control the leverage of subsidization, 760 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 2: of taking your tax dollars and weaponizing your own tax 761 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,879 Speaker 2: dollars against you. And so that's that's the battle. And 762 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 2: right now, the biggest obstacle that I have isn't the 763 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: radical left, because I can see them a mile away. 764 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:26,959 Speaker 2: It's not even the establishment Republicans. It's Conservative inc. It's 765 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 2: something that walks and talks and looks a lot like MAGA, 766 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 2: and boy are they effective in communicating things that are 767 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 2: mostly right, mostly true. But there's a little subtle pivot. 768 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 2: And I'll give you a perfect example of this, and 769 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 2: it's probably one of the reasons why I don't get 770 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 2: invited to the prom with any of these conservative events. 771 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 2: But there is still this wholesale protection of the machines. 772 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 2: And most recently, Rahem Cassam did a puff piece through 773 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,280 Speaker 2: the National Pulse selling the liberty vote acquisition of dominion 774 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 2: as a wonderful thing like it was the death nail 775 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,720 Speaker 2: to dominion. And I have a very well placed source 776 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 2: that had a one on one conversation with Rahemi. He 777 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 2: did not disclose that he had a conflict of interest. 778 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 2: There is a concerted interest in DC to do the 779 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 2: rebrand to keep the machines there, of course, and when 780 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 2: you look into the owner and CEO of Liberty Vote, 781 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 2: he has been in the election space for fifteen plus years. 782 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 2: He ran an election in Kosovo for the Obama administration. 783 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 2: He was a pioneer of the electronic poll books, which 784 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 2: give you all the metrics that you need to figure 785 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 2: out how many fake ballots to create. He acquired a 786 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 2: group called b pro and merged with it, and b 787 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 2: Pro is responsible for this thing called Total Vote. It's 788 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 2: a completely cloud based technology where you can elegantly subvert 789 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 2: elections in microseconds. So when you get it out of 790 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 2: your head that it's not about you know whether China 791 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 2: is hacking into our machines. It's a codified fraud where 792 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 2: you've got tax dollars being laundered back into NGOs. And 793 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 2: our own Department of Homeland Security, through the Center for 794 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:23,280 Speaker 2: Internet Security, has entered into legal contracts to live behind 795 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,399 Speaker 2: your precinct firewalls, so they don't have to hack. They 796 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 2: get to live there because we signed the paperwork and 797 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 2: it's our tax dollars that put them there. And they 798 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 2: hate Naga, they hate Trump, they hate you, they hate me. 799 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 2: And now they've got this integrated cloud based technology that 800 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 2: not only allows them to monitor voter rolls, election tallies, 801 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 2: election net reporting, but they can change it. So most 802 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 2: of the evidence that we placed in that film weren't 803 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 2: hypothetical subversions. These were, you know, documented subversions where we 804 00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,839 Speaker 2: gave you actual proof along that assembly line. But what 805 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,720 Speaker 2: Ralph and Gary did in their interview with Laura Logan 806 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 2: was get confirmation from the smartmatic whistleblowers that are telling us. 807 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 2: And it was pretty cool to be affirmed saying, you 808 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 2: know something, we were right. We didn't see all of 809 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 2: the gaps, but if you overlay their disclosures with our work, 810 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,240 Speaker 2: you see this nice niche. But right now, the biggest 811 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:30,720 Speaker 2: concern and biggest worry for people like myself are thinking 812 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 2: about this like it's a football team. You know, now 813 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 2: that are Republicans in control of dominion, we can all 814 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,720 Speaker 2: take a break, right and that's the kind of stuff. 815 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 2: And then the other thing is that there's no remedy 816 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 2: that I can think of where the legislature will get 817 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 2: its acting gear because they are there by virtue of 818 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,919 Speaker 2: these machines. They have no interest in getting rid of them. 819 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 2: So you've got to dream up a legal avenue that 820 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 2: Trump can declare, not ask, not bague, not jockey for approval. 821 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 2: But he's going to do what he needs to do 822 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 2: is the commander in chief and treat the subversion of 823 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 2: our elections no different than an inner continental ballistic missile. 824 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 2: He doesn't have to ask Congress to strike down a missile. 825 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 2: It's that framework where he can go in there and say, 826 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,879 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not asking you when Serbia's coming in here, 827 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 2: and when Venezuela is coming in and intervening in our elections, 828 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 2: that is the most undermining thing that you can do 829 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 2: to a country's country sovereignty. So when I look at 830 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,799 Speaker 2: the airspace in Venezuela, I'm here to tell people, if 831 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 2: you think this is about drugs, yeah, yeah, that it's not. 832 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:42,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 833 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: And they don't know, they don't get they don't understand 834 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 1: the totality because it's so big. 835 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 2: Right, yes, And not only that, but you've got all 836 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 2: these people that will pull out their pocket Constitution for 837 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 2: a day, and like whether it's Marjorie Taylor Green or 838 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 2: Ran Paul and these are people that historically used to 839 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 2: really you know, like but they'll there's so quick to 840 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 2: tell you that Congress gets to declare war. And I'm 841 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 2: sitting there going you guys sat on your hands while 842 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 2: the war was brought to us and there was an 843 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 2: actual invasion at the border, and there was a digital 844 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 2: invasion in our code, and so the president does not 845 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 2: have to wait for Congress. He does not have to 846 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 2: listen to a court to repel that invasion, you know. 847 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 2: And and so that's the framework, and I think I 848 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 2: think Trump's there. But if he puts on the mantle 849 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 2: of Article two power, he's working under his plenary authorities, 850 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 2: commander in chief. He just needs to do what he 851 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 2: needs to do, because if he doesn't and we're just 852 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 2: playing this political optics game, then it's it's game over. 853 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,800 Speaker 3: Right. Let me ask you a question. 854 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: The obviously everybody listening you you have to. We're going 855 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: to put the link to the documentary and it'll lay 856 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: out the details of what David gets into on the systems, 857 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 1: how they do it. It's it's brilliantly done. You'll you'll 858 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 1: really enjoy it. But the thing that I think always 859 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: and new references in the beginning of our discussion, was 860 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:10,720 Speaker 1: the idea, all right, there's you know, nobody heard these 861 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 1: these ninety cases. There was no merit there for for 862 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: evident for evidence to be brought forth to be able 863 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,359 Speaker 1: to do it. And I think everybody goes, well, if 864 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 1: if that's the case, bring it forward legally in some 865 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 1: type of rico conspiracy case and try it through the 866 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: court systems, and and we'll get we'll get to a 867 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:38,280 Speaker 1: place where legally we can make the changes and force 868 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: the Congress and the Senate and whatever to do it. 869 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: Why is that so unrealistic? And that emergency almost an 870 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: emergency Powers Act of National Security is the only way 871 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 1: to dismantle the system? 872 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 3: Why? 873 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: Why why can't we do a grand uh, you know, 874 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 1: like the people of the United States right right, some 875 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,280 Speaker 1: giant class action lawsuit that you have twenty million people 876 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 1: sign a petition to be a part of. And and 877 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: then you go, you know, go, why can't that take place? 878 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,399 Speaker 3: Right now? Yeah? 879 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 2: I if people ask me how Trump could make good 880 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 2: on his two most important promises. You know, promise number one. 881 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,760 Speaker 2: You know when he put his hand on the Bible 882 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen and said, I'm going to give you 883 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,399 Speaker 2: back your country. That's a huge promise. You can say 884 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 2: that it's you know, just speech riding. And then the 885 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 2: other thing is that he said that he caught them all. 886 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 2: He caught them all. So his presidency will be judged 887 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,719 Speaker 2: on whether he can keep those two promises. And as 888 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 2: it stands right now, maybe he's done the most important 889 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 2: part of getting us there, but we haven't seen the 890 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 2: accountability right And so in twenty twenty one, even then, 891 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 2: if someone asked me, Dave, do you think that he 892 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 2: can drain the swamp through a DOJ or a civilian system, 893 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 2: And the answer is no, that's the system I know, 894 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 2: more or less mastered, and do process concerns are just 895 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 2: too high for the accused in a civilian framework. And 896 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,280 Speaker 2: so when you've got people that can wait out the clock, 897 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 2: and we're not talking about your garden variety thuck or criminal, 898 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 2: we're talking about John Brennan, Hillary Clinton, not only the 899 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 2: lawyer up, they're going to have every single conceivable argument 900 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 2: and they can appeal to authority because a lot of 901 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 2: the sources are coming from captured elements of the government. 902 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 2: So one of the biggest and most frustrating things to 903 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 2: do during COVID was, you know, you couldn't argue and 904 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 2: when in court because the CDC had an official statement 905 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 2: from the government telling you what reality was. And so 906 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 2: even in the cyber arenas, you had the sizes of 907 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 2: the world, you had the Department of Homeland Security, you 908 00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,839 Speaker 2: had Chris Krebs telling you that everything is perfect. So 909 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 2: how do you fight that when the rules of evidence 910 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 2: in a court system treat many of those sources as 911 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 2: self authenticating, meaning they come in by virtue of it. 912 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,800 Speaker 2: It came from the government, and therefore it is evidence, 913 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 2: and it's in front of the jury or the judge 914 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 2: and everyone else that's telling the truth has been destroyed 915 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 2: by a USAID funded news network. And when they do 916 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 2: a comparative analysis between the inter news and some glorifying 917 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 2: puff piece for these poor election clerks that are being 918 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 2: accosted by people like me, you lose nine times out 919 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,319 Speaker 2: of ten. And so you know, I'm reminded not as 920 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 2: a because I'm not a soldier like you. I came 921 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 2: in this as kind of a kind of a bastard 922 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 2: kid that found his way into a really weird place 923 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 2: and God put you there, you know well he did. 924 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 2: But there's this this thing of Okay, I'm familiar with 925 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 2: the art of war and the famous quotes of keep 926 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 2: your friends close and your enemies closer, and when before 927 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 2: you even say a step onto the battlefield, there's these maxims. 928 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,839 Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there going, if Trump is who I 929 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 2: think he is, then I need to expand the way 930 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 2: that I think, and I need to start thinking about 931 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 2: tools that no mere mortal civilian has that he has, 932 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 2: and what is it about this guy that he walks differently, 933 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 2: He talks with confidence, and he's not faking it. You 934 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 2: can tell when people fake it, And so you start thinking, Okay, 935 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:42,439 Speaker 2: I have helped the public understand how rigged elections are 936 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:47,800 Speaker 2: through civilian sources, public records, and I think we've carried 937 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,359 Speaker 2: the day from our end. But if you were to 938 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 2: ask someone to prove it beyond you know, any doubt, 939 00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 2: then you're getting into a space force nsaaradim yes, where 940 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 2: the commander in chief can declassify and show you exactly 941 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 2: how it's done. Trump's got that. So when he says 942 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 2: he's got it all, and why he doesn't seem worried, 943 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 2: it's just a question of will you use an emergency 944 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 2: broadcast system? Will you force feed and just force these 945 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 2: tyrants to take a look at their tyranny and let 946 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 2: the public look on. Wow, that's what's going to be required. 947 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 2: But it's going to have to be a military commission 948 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 2: tribunal setting to do the level of efficient prosecution that's necessary. 949 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 2: So RICO is great, racketeering's okay, but you're talking about 950 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 2: twenty year caps and do process rights that are not 951 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,479 Speaker 2: built for mass prosecution. It's just not so when people 952 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 2: get upset with cash. Betel Pambondie, what's going on with 953 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 2: James Comy. Trump is not who I think is if 954 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 2: he's going to solve this problem through the DOJ, because 955 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:08,439 Speaker 2: it's beyond them to handle this. So I started looking 956 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 2: at military commissions, and I wanted to ask the question 957 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 2: and answer it legally without any of the mystique that 958 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 2: comes from Q and some of the other stuff that's 959 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 2: out there, which I find absolutely fascinating. I'm not someone 960 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 2: that craps on that stuff at all, because in many respects. 961 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 2: They're so far ahead of everyone on just critical thinking. 962 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 2: But I want to ask legally, what can Trump do? 963 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 2: And there's a case called the Youngstown Decision. It's the 964 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 2: preeminent case on war powers where the president's power starts 965 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 2: and stops, and it was written by Justice Jackson's the 966 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 2: Concurrence in particular, and he was a Nuremberg prosecutor. So 967 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 2: this is a guy who had experienced the unthinkable in 968 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 2: a post World War two arena. And we're there again, 969 00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 2: like we're in a Nuremberg like moment. And he talked 970 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 2: about the president's powers, about being at their peak when 971 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 2: he's got Congresses backing, it's at its lowest EBB when 972 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 2: they're fighting him. And we all have to concede right 973 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 2: now that there is no there's no way that Congress 974 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,440 Speaker 2: will work with President Trump to solve any of the 975 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 2: things that we're talking about, which means he has to 976 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 2: act in open defiance of a captured Congress. 977 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 3: Number one. 978 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 2: Number two. If the military is part of this, you 979 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 2: have to explain the oddities of what happened with Biden, 980 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 2: this human gaff machine. Why does it look like he's 981 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 2: on a movie set? Why does it look like it's 982 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 2: not the same person. Why is he taller? I mean, 983 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 2: these are all things where people can write it off 984 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 2: and walk past it and say, Dave, you're crazy. But 985 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, when President Trump tells you 986 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 2: at Quantico that he's the forty fifth, forty sixth, and 987 00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 2: forty seventh president, but he doesn't want to take the 988 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 2: credit for the forty sixth term. When you've got him 989 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 2: brandishing a chart at rallies and it says that he 990 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 2: left office in the lower corner in April twenty twenty. 991 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 2: That's not a typo that you can, you know, right 992 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 2: just pass by at rally after rally after rally, and 993 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 2: he says, this is the chart that saved my life. 994 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 2: And everyone just ignores that thing in the corner. So 995 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 2: I'm sitting there, I want to take Trump at his word. 996 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 2: That's the way that I'm looking at this. I'm gonna 997 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 2: stop being twisted and turned by all the different talking kids. 998 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:41,480 Speaker 2: Is he telling me the truth? Because if you left office, 999 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 2: the only way that that makes sense is through a 1000 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 2: continuity of government framework. So what are the legal circumstances 1001 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 2: that would justify continuity of government? And if you look 1002 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 2: at where our country was in April of twenty twenty. 1003 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 2: It checks off all the boxes. You've got a buy away, 1004 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 2: you've got US citizens being killed and murdered by chemical agents. 1005 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 2: You've got people already telegraphing how they're going to take 1006 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 2: over the elections and have the influx of mail in ballots. 1007 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 2: I think the military was signaling to Trump that you 1008 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 2: can give them the ultimatum, open up by easter or else. 1009 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 2: And what did the intelligence agencies do that were captured. 1010 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,240 Speaker 2: They gave him the middle finger, and it was game 1011 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,760 Speaker 2: on white hats, black hats. But he had to play 1012 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:36,320 Speaker 2: this artful narrative battle where now twenty twenty to me 1013 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:42,080 Speaker 2: isn't even a real election. It's about perception theater, because 1014 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 2: even if he would have seized the machines to an 1015 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 2: executive order, which he had the legal authority to do, 1016 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,520 Speaker 2: he would have lost the narrative war because the narrative 1017 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 2: seating was so strong from people saying that he was 1018 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 2: a tyrant that would never let go of power, and 1019 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 2: people wouldn't have known enough at that point to whether 1020 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 2: that type of conflict right. So you look back and 1021 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 2: you're sitting going, well, all of a sudden, I now 1022 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 2: can have an accounting for the confusing mess that was 1023 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 2: Joe Biden, who was the greatest red pill dispenser that 1024 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 2: I've ever seen. I can now understand why war torn 1025 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 2: areas there was no heavy military presence in places like Afghanistan. 1026 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 2: And you know this better than anyone. There's no way 1027 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 2: that the military industrial complex would leave those opium fields, 1028 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 2: that would leave certain places that were funding their pockets. 1029 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 2: And so what you saw was a vestige of control 1030 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 2: on the corrupted aspects of the intelligence agencies, the money 1031 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 2: laundering operations through Ukraine. But when it came to military 1032 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 2: might and actually going places that we had been for 1033 01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,200 Speaker 2: twenty years, noticed that all of that was gone or 1034 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 2: under Biden's watch. So it presents a lot of questions, right, 1035 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,440 Speaker 2: and then you've got again the Quantico statement. So you 1036 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 2: add it all together and it looks like a shadow 1037 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 2: presidency was in effect, and that presents questions. But if 1038 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 2: that's the case, I can now explain away how in 1039 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 2: the world the National Guard can be federalized and deployed 1040 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 2: to do policing in the United States, which would otherwise 1041 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 2: violate possecommentatus. I can make sense of the fact that 1042 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,920 Speaker 2: Trump doesn't seem to be bothered by any legal ruling 1043 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 2: that seems to go against him. I can make sense 1044 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:50,880 Speaker 2: of why he designated Antifa as a terrorist organization Venezuela 1045 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,960 Speaker 2: and Narco Terras is a terrorist organization. Understand that the 1046 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 2: inner play of smartmatic having a foothold in each camp, 1047 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,919 Speaker 2: and then you start seeing that there is a plan, 1048 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 2: and I've got confidence, and it's about when do you 1049 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 2: execute on that plan to pull the rug from everyone, 1050 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:17,400 Speaker 2: to not let the cockroaches scatter. And so he's got 1051 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 2: three years to perfect this and do it right and 1052 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,720 Speaker 2: do it by the book. So when I started looking 1053 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:28,120 Speaker 2: at the UCMJ, all of a sudden the things that 1054 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 2: I was having heartburn over started to find their place. 1055 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,880 Speaker 2: I researched the Dakota Wars. This is the biggest trial 1056 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 2: of enemy combatants. One tribunal did three hundred and ninety 1057 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 2: six cases in thirty seven days. Wow, So you do 1058 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 2: the math. You're going wait a minute, Okay, that's one tribunal. 1059 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 2: What happened if we had twenty military courts where finding 1060 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,440 Speaker 2: over six month period you could do fifteen thousand trials 1061 01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 2: like that. 1062 01:04:59,200 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 3: You want to do more? 1063 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 2: You know, go a year, go, two years, go, three years. 1064 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 2: So the framework starts to make sense on what Trump 1065 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 2: is doing. And I think the frustration of many American 1066 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 2: consumers or patriots is that they just are kind of 1067 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 2: pissed that they don't get the debrief. And I don't 1068 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 2: get the debrief. It's not like the president's telling me 1069 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 2: what he's doing. But there's this huge thing called the 1070 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 2: military that none of us are pondering, none of us 1071 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 2: are thinking about, and it's going to take that kind 1072 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:35,080 Speaker 2: of authoritative power that we're outmatched under certain categories of 1073 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 2: strife where I'm not worried about Judge Boseberg. I'm not 1074 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 2: worried about the judiciary as long as the military has 1075 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 2: President Trump's back, and I will concede. It's a big if, 1076 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 2: right until we see victory. I'm either a completely you know, 1077 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,959 Speaker 2: brainwashed lunatic for even abouting these things on your show, 1078 01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:01,720 Speaker 2: or I'm right well for me, I, by the way, 1079 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:02,160 Speaker 2: thank you. 1080 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 1: That was absolutely outstanding a layout for the possibility of 1081 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 1: what could go. And you know there's always the people 1082 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 1: like going, this is bold. There's no way Trump has 1083 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 1: the capacity for four dhs or fifth generation warfare or 1084 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:25,439 Speaker 1: whatever it is. And you know, obviously you know he's 1085 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 1: been around it not long enough to know, and he's 1086 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 1: been under attack long enough to know that you know, 1087 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:31,240 Speaker 1: any survived. 1088 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 3: That's the first thing. 1089 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen many other cases throughout history where 1090 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 1: presidents did not survive that attack and went away quickly. 1091 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 1: And so that's the thing that gives me hope. And 1092 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 1: everybody's like, well, he's part of it, and you know 1093 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,920 Speaker 1: he's he's just one of their minions. But for me, 1094 01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 1: the biggest thing lately that kind of lined up was 1095 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:58,280 Speaker 1: the show of force Alpha Venezuela, right, the categorization of 1096 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 1: both Antifa and the cartels as terrorist organizations. And then 1097 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 1: the most recent one was you see the opposing force 1098 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 1: come out and basically say, hey, if you're in the military, 1099 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:18,959 Speaker 1: it's okay to disobey orders, like it's it's your duty, right, 1100 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:23,120 Speaker 1: it's your duty to disobey these unlawful orders, which is 1101 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,040 Speaker 1: in my opinion, in line like I didn't think about 1102 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 1: it in terms of like what you did with the 1103 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 1: military tribunals and the magnitude or scale of of prosecution. 1104 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,720 Speaker 3: In that level, but it's it's act. 1105 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:41,840 Speaker 1: Obviously, the military is a key component of enforcing these 1106 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 1: types of things, and you know that's why we're starting 1107 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:45,920 Speaker 1: to see the assaults on. 1108 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:47,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead. 1109 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,960 Speaker 2: It's the only way if we're looking at the art 1110 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,440 Speaker 2: of war, that Trump wins before he takes the first 1111 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 2: step right onto the battlefield. 1112 01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 3: I mean. 1113 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 2: And so the things that you're talking about are are key. 1114 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,040 Speaker 2: But there's one thing that to me has kind of 1115 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 2: pushed me over the edge to think that, okay, the 1116 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,040 Speaker 2: military has to be involved. And that's the outcome of 1117 01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 2: November last November November twenty twenty four. Knowing what I 1118 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 2: know and knowing what you saw in the film, there 1119 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:20,640 Speaker 2: is no way in hell Trump could have reacquired his 1120 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:25,160 Speaker 2: position in the White House unless there was a significant 1121 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 2: intervention that would have required the kind of backing from 1122 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 2: a United States military. There's no way. And the huge 1123 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,960 Speaker 2: disparity between what we saw in twenty twenty four versus 1124 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,719 Speaker 2: twenty twenty there's two things that stand out. Number One, 1125 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,080 Speaker 2: when it came to Trump's races, you did not see 1126 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 2: the materialization of that dreaded f curve where a Trump 1127 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,080 Speaker 2: is up by tens of thousands of ballots and then 1128 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,519 Speaker 2: all of a sudden Kamala on election night gets to 1129 01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,960 Speaker 2: pass them. And that's election night reporting real ballots. That's 1130 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 2: just what we see on the television screens, on those 1131 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:09,280 Speaker 2: trackers that didn't happen. So when we talk about Gary 1132 01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,360 Speaker 2: Bernson and Ralph Azulo and the stuff that was going 1133 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:18,240 Speaker 2: on in Serbia overseas, that has a bearing on the 1134 01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,360 Speaker 2: perception theater of what we were able to see and 1135 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 2: be fed through our programming, and people weren't being given 1136 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:33,000 Speaker 2: this fictional report that Kamala eked it out that was 1137 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,760 Speaker 2: not allowed to transpire, which is really really key because 1138 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,639 Speaker 2: there was this anecdotal story that Joe Rogan shared when 1139 01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,240 Speaker 2: he was at the watch party with Elon Mosk and 1140 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:46,040 Speaker 2: this was before the races were called. Elon supposedly checks 1141 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:50,200 Speaker 2: his app on his phone and says it's over. 1142 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,840 Speaker 1: Trump won. Now, what in the world did he have 1143 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 1: in his hand to be able to say that so confidently. 1144 01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,120 Speaker 2: Well, I think what it was that was the confirmation 1145 01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,120 Speaker 2: of the intervention that took place that they could not 1146 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 2: rig the perception of votes coming in the showcase come 1147 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,360 Speaker 2: all in the lead. And then you're sitting going, Okay, 1148 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,240 Speaker 2: if it was anyone else, you could disregard it. But 1149 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,040 Speaker 2: you're talking about SpaceX. You're talking about Elon Musk, who 1150 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:21,320 Speaker 2: has put a Manhattan Project level disbursement of thousands of 1151 01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:28,200 Speaker 2: satellites right into the atmosphere. And wherever you have satellite 1152 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:32,040 Speaker 2: dominance and satellite infrastructure that works in tandem with the NSA, 1153 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 2: you really have the final tool on what you get 1154 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,160 Speaker 2: to see on a screen on the television. So they 1155 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:43,720 Speaker 2: had a answer for that that didn't appear to materialize 1156 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. So that's number one. Number two, there 1157 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,840 Speaker 2: were interdiction efforts to stop the influx of mail in 1158 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,200 Speaker 2: ballots showing up on the scene in places like Pennsylvania, 1159 01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,280 Speaker 2: where they got through in twenty twenty. It didn't happen 1160 01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 2: in Trump's races in twenty twenty four. So how does 1161 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:07,800 Speaker 2: he have the ability as a non president Because again 1162 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,320 Speaker 2: Biden still in, How is it that space force or 1163 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,439 Speaker 2: some type of cyber intervention was able to stop the 1164 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:19,519 Speaker 2: bad guys? Where did the force of law come in 1165 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,640 Speaker 2: to all of a sudden stop vans loaded with ballots 1166 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:28,400 Speaker 2: in strategic places? Why did it work this time? But 1167 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 2: it couldn't work when Trump was effectively the one who 1168 01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 2: was in control of all of that. In November of 1169 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, you know, five years ago. So these are 1170 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,080 Speaker 2: the kinds of questions that I just tell people don't 1171 01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 2: walk past. And it was also so artful that there 1172 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:47,360 Speaker 2: was enough corruption and fraud that you couldn't say that 1173 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,960 Speaker 2: the elections were fixed, because you had the anomalies with 1174 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,639 Speaker 2: Kerry Lake and Sam Brown. There was at least eight 1175 01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 2: Senate races that were outright stolen from Republicans. There were 1176 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:02,240 Speaker 2: thirty house races in California. And one of the debriefs 1177 01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:03,960 Speaker 2: I got, I went to DC and I met with 1178 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,559 Speaker 2: a congressman tops of one of his top attorneys, and 1179 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,840 Speaker 2: he showed me video and picture evidence from the day 1180 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,639 Speaker 2: after November twenty twenty fourth election where they did a 1181 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:18,080 Speaker 2: spot check at the Runback Facility in Arizona, which is 1182 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 2: where they do the industrial scale printing of those ballots. 1183 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:27,799 Speaker 2: And you had non English speakers loading up palettes stuffed 1184 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,040 Speaker 2: to the brim and put them on Penske trucks and 1185 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:36,880 Speaker 2: they were headed for California, Nevada, throughout Arizona, Colorado. And 1186 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 2: so if he knew that, Trump knew that. So you 1187 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,680 Speaker 2: add it all together and perhaps it's like, no, we're 1188 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,800 Speaker 2: not crazy. Perhaps our intuition and our common sense are 1189 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,439 Speaker 2: telling us one thing. But there is this knee jerk 1190 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,639 Speaker 2: reaction to kind of want to be blackpilled because how 1191 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,719 Speaker 2: long do we have to put up with the stnsense? 1192 01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,639 Speaker 2: How long do we have to be on this roller 1193 01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:04,080 Speaker 2: coaster ride. There's no way, you know, to recap. There's 1194 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 2: no way that Trump gets in in twenty twenty four 1195 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:12,680 Speaker 2: absent some type of military like power to intervene in 1196 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 2: the cyber world, and I'll take that to the grave. 1197 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,559 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone can convince me otherwise. 1198 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,280 Speaker 1: The one thing that I come up with in my 1199 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:26,439 Speaker 1: mind is that the country had gotten so hot, in 1200 01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:30,840 Speaker 1: particular after the assassination attempt in Butler, you know, and 1201 01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,240 Speaker 1: you saw, I mean, they see amo sales, they see 1202 01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,959 Speaker 1: gun sales, see they see what's. 1203 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:36,760 Speaker 3: Going on online. 1204 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 1: Right, They'd built that entire infrastructure of you know what 1205 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:45,000 Speaker 1: Mike Ben's calls the censorship industrial complex, and they had 1206 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:49,200 Speaker 1: just in all those groups monitoring social media and people 1207 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:53,240 Speaker 1: within the social media itself that maybe they they thought 1208 01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 1: it's so hot if we try and steal this one, 1209 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:01,120 Speaker 1: there'll be a full blown revolt with there's no trials, 1210 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:01,879 Speaker 1: there's no tribunal. 1211 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,800 Speaker 3: You know, there's no tribunals. It's just like it's chaos. 1212 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,160 Speaker 1: And then people are hung in the in the squares 1213 01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,760 Speaker 1: back in the like back in the day. So let's 1214 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,240 Speaker 1: let this one slide. We got enough people internally to 1215 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:18,160 Speaker 1: press against. We got enough people inside his his whoever 1216 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,320 Speaker 1: he has to elect, right, I mean, he's got what 1217 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,920 Speaker 1: put in two thousand people who then put in ten 1218 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,320 Speaker 1: thousand each or whatever it is. It's you know, the 1219 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:31,440 Speaker 1: scale of appointees and you're bringing in is seems virtually impossible. 1220 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,559 Speaker 1: We've got that, so we'll just let him go through. 1221 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 1: We'll push him. We've got the judges dialed in the 1222 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 1: pushback like we're seeing. I mean the case that dismiss 1223 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:45,599 Speaker 1: Komy because right the attorney for the Attorney General of 1224 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,680 Speaker 1: New Jersey wasn't lawfully in place. I mean, it's just 1225 01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,600 Speaker 1: there's no end to what they'll do. Yes, So I 1226 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't we just kind of fish this real QUI? Yeah, 1227 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,720 Speaker 1: it was so hot that they're just going to be like, 1228 01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,479 Speaker 1: all right, forget it now. They start the sigh of 1229 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:04,360 Speaker 1: playing with the other elections. They regain some control somehow 1230 01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 1: some Senate seats twenty six is a landslide for them. 1231 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,120 Speaker 1: It shows the public is upset with the ice raids 1232 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,760 Speaker 1: and his the no King's rally, that whole thing, and 1233 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:18,679 Speaker 1: then twenty eight because he's gone, you know, it's back 1234 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:24,120 Speaker 1: down to that that that fifty one forty nine majority 1235 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:28,679 Speaker 1: minority with Jade Vance. They load him with possibly a 1236 01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,960 Speaker 1: non likable running mate or whatever it is, and and 1237 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,320 Speaker 1: they put in whoever they want for the next one. 1238 01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,560 Speaker 2: Well, I think one of the reason why I inappropriately 1239 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,920 Speaker 2: interrupted you is because I'm so excited because like it's 1240 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,880 Speaker 2: like I just said, the whole thing, I've got this 1241 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,760 Speaker 2: going up my horse because you're you're running with some 1242 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,120 Speaker 2: major horsepower to even to spot what you just did. 1243 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:52,960 Speaker 2: And so one thing I just want to agree with 1244 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,040 Speaker 2: you that. But what people need to understand is they 1245 01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,800 Speaker 2: got to get away from this idea of evil is static. 1246 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,400 Speaker 2: It's it's constantly there's a dynamic and you're not saying that, 1247 01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,360 Speaker 2: but there are contingency plans, right, And so you've got 1248 01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 2: your plan and you try to you try to execute it. 1249 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 2: Team evil has to respond and try to respond and 1250 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,519 Speaker 2: then you respond to them. And so what you're seeing 1251 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,200 Speaker 2: is like it's not either or both both can be 1252 01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,960 Speaker 2: absolutely true. That Trump has got the hardened aspects of 1253 01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:26,080 Speaker 2: the military, he's trying to fill strategic roles, get rid 1254 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:30,960 Speaker 2: of people, and then you've got the the remnants of 1255 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:34,360 Speaker 2: the captured judiciary, captured legislature doing all the things that 1256 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,519 Speaker 2: you just mentioned. And I think what happens is many 1257 01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:41,160 Speaker 2: people and they can be they could be right that 1258 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,360 Speaker 2: they think that that's what's gonna win out. It's like 1259 01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,320 Speaker 2: the ultimate limited hangout where we just get enough truth, 1260 01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,479 Speaker 2: you let you know, some air out of the tires, 1261 01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,719 Speaker 2: and and it's going to be more of the same. 1262 01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,280 Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot of people that truly 1263 01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,840 Speaker 2: feel that this second term is going to be that. 1264 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,760 Speaker 2: It's like they're going to wait out the clock and 1265 01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,960 Speaker 2: Trump is going to be mastered at some point and 1266 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,840 Speaker 2: it'll be the next guy in and the pendulum is 1267 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,360 Speaker 2: going to swing back. So one, I just want to 1268 01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 2: concede that I get that, and I can't convince people 1269 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,800 Speaker 2: not to feel that way because I see that stuff too. 1270 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:22,960 Speaker 2: But I come back to this place where it really 1271 01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,280 Speaker 2: is an article of faith. And it's not to say 1272 01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,240 Speaker 2: that Trump is a forty chess master. I think he is, 1273 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:35,680 Speaker 2: but it comes down to winning. Do you have a 1274 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,720 Speaker 2: vision for winning? If I believe that Trump was all 1275 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:44,800 Speaker 2: about the political optics of just having another term and 1276 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,439 Speaker 2: playing the game, well, shame on me. I'd be like 1277 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,360 Speaker 2: the apostle Paul, like my entire faith would be be 1278 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 2: shattered for believing in this guy called Jesus. Right, it's 1279 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:59,120 Speaker 2: kind of the same thing. I don't see that with Trump. 1280 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,040 Speaker 2: I see this as as it's killer be killed. It's 1281 01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:06,280 Speaker 2: to the victor goes the spoils. And there's enough movement 1282 01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:10,960 Speaker 2: in places, but you have to look in places where 1283 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,360 Speaker 2: no one's talking about them. And that's kind of the 1284 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:19,400 Speaker 2: military chess board. Because if Trump isn't wielding that, if 1285 01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 2: he's not wielding the tools that he has as the 1286 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,800 Speaker 2: commander in chief, we're talking about the most powerful man 1287 01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:28,880 Speaker 2: in the world, then one he's a fool, and two 1288 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,400 Speaker 2: he will be destroyed. And that's where it gets really 1289 01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,799 Speaker 2: simple for me. If he doesn't see this through, everyone 1290 01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,799 Speaker 2: in his administration is going to jail him, included people 1291 01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,560 Speaker 2: like myself will not be around to do this podcast 1292 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:48,320 Speaker 2: in four years time. It's I'm this isn't hyperbole, and 1293 01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,840 Speaker 2: so I think he knows that, and so when I 1294 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:55,360 Speaker 2: see the optics and the narratives over coomy and I'm 1295 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,759 Speaker 2: sitting there going, guys, you're getting upset over and dismissal. 1296 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:03,240 Speaker 2: But what's the charge perjury? Do we think that the 1297 01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,639 Speaker 2: sins of James Comy can be. 1298 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,160 Speaker 1: Leveled with a perjury each other? 1299 01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:10,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's absurd. 1300 01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,559 Speaker 2: There's got to be a whole category of things that 1301 01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:19,479 Speaker 2: are in the seditious conspiracy Treson world. And unlike the 1302 01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,160 Speaker 2: cases that you can track on a pacer account, which 1303 01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:26,000 Speaker 2: is public record, none of the things that I'm talking about, 1304 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,479 Speaker 2: you and I can have eyes or ears on unless 1305 01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:33,160 Speaker 2: we're vetted and in the military. So that's kind of 1306 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 2: the That's the million dollar question is is this article 1307 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,799 Speaker 2: of faith that I have going to come to fruition 1308 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,800 Speaker 2: or in a year year's time, is everyone to say, Dave, 1309 01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 2: I told you so, it's way worse. Trump's the anti Christ. 1310 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,600 Speaker 2: We've got the same caliber of bought and paid for politicians. 1311 01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,080 Speaker 2: And that's all possible. But I see an election at 1312 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,040 Speaker 2: least on the federal races, because I don't think he 1313 01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,960 Speaker 2: can master the ballot from a statewide standpoint, But I 1314 01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 2: think from a US Senate race to a congressional district race. 1315 01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:09,040 Speaker 2: So you're talking about a two race ballot can be 1316 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,519 Speaker 2: hand counted. I think you'd be conducted by the National Guard. 1317 01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:16,840 Speaker 2: I think that can be lawful, and maybe you don't 1318 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,519 Speaker 2: get to do that on other races. But what you're 1319 01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,000 Speaker 2: going to find is that we're not a fifty to 1320 01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:27,839 Speaker 2: fifty country. That it's probably absolutely twenty split, and people's 1321 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,960 Speaker 2: heads are going to explode when they see what it 1322 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,439 Speaker 2: really is. And then all of a sudden, you're not 1323 01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:37,439 Speaker 2: dealing with a Lane Duck presidency where you're put out 1324 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 2: to pastor and everyone forgets about Trump. They're going to 1325 01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,559 Speaker 2: start courting JD. Vance and Marco Rubio or whoever is 1326 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,599 Speaker 2: going to take the reins. They're going to sit there 1327 01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,959 Speaker 2: going We've got a whole new crop of Maha Maga 1328 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,559 Speaker 2: like candidates that might want to repeal the twenty second Amendment. 1329 01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:57,839 Speaker 2: Maybe the trolling of Trump having another term isn't just trolling. 1330 01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:03,120 Speaker 2: Maybe there's a legal pathway, uh to to secure you know, 1331 01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:09,000 Speaker 2: this victory. So I think our country's fortunes will will 1332 01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,800 Speaker 2: win out or fail in in the midterm elections. That 1333 01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,559 Speaker 2: will be the definitive sign for me and and I 1334 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,320 Speaker 2: hope I'm right, because good lord, I can't go through 1335 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:20,880 Speaker 2: another four years. 1336 01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,320 Speaker 3: Like wed before. 1337 01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,479 Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing, like I as you're sitting here 1338 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:33,639 Speaker 1: in the way you obviously you know you're a trained evaluator, right, 1339 01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:37,720 Speaker 1: You're a trained You're trained to assess information, and then 1340 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:44,080 Speaker 1: through that assessment, you're you're able to uh what to 1341 01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:50,679 Speaker 1: connect the assessments uh in a logical manner that gives 1342 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:56,960 Speaker 1: you a semblance of what structure that you can you 1343 01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,080 Speaker 1: can build your reality around, right, and that that's what 1344 01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,599 Speaker 1: you're doing, and you have done for the last five years, 1345 01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,959 Speaker 1: even greater from back the time when you were prosecutor 1346 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 1: and you realize the crooked nature of the cartel influence 1347 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:12,639 Speaker 1: on people and law enforcement and everything. But but now 1348 01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,200 Speaker 1: it's there's a different thing at stake, I think for 1349 01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,360 Speaker 1: you and for me. You know, I've got four daughters. 1350 01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:22,799 Speaker 1: I know you have children. You've got a wife who's 1351 01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:26,679 Speaker 1: immeasurably invested in all of this. You know, my wife 1352 01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,400 Speaker 1: in terms of supporting me. And because I battle the 1353 01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:33,040 Speaker 1: same thing, It's like, all right, how far do I 1354 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:38,320 Speaker 1: go on the microphone? Do I have Professor David Clements 1355 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,240 Speaker 1: on my show? Because as soon as I do. Then 1356 01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, oh you let the crazy election 1357 01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,360 Speaker 1: denier guy, you know, and it's like and you know, 1358 01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,880 Speaker 1: like you said that Conservative Ink begins to push me 1359 01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,920 Speaker 1: over here maybe or over there. You know, my one 1360 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,040 Speaker 1: of my closest friends in the world is Sean Ryan, 1361 01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,880 Speaker 1: and you know, just he just had you know, a 1362 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,360 Speaker 1: bud of his Tucker Carlson on and you know, it's like, 1363 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,200 Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to bring this pariah now of 1364 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,320 Speaker 1: Conservative Ink on because he's my friend. 1365 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:09,120 Speaker 3: I want to hear what. 1366 01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,080 Speaker 1: He has to say. And you know, Sean's like, nobody's 1367 01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,200 Speaker 1: going to own me. And so that idea of freedom 1368 01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:19,960 Speaker 1: for us as as as strong men that believe in 1369 01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:25,200 Speaker 1: something that's much deeper than just elections, the faith in 1370 01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,320 Speaker 1: what Christ tells us to be as men and seekers 1371 01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,880 Speaker 1: of the truth right asking you shall find open the door, 1372 01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 1: it will it will come forward to you, and you 1373 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:35,880 Speaker 1: know that's our responsibility. 1374 01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,040 Speaker 3: However, we do have these children. 1375 01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,439 Speaker 1: And so if you were speaking to young people, if 1376 01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:45,839 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you to speak to young people 1377 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:50,320 Speaker 1: in particular, you know, twenty two twenty three year old 1378 01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:54,960 Speaker 1: men out there right now and girls, what do you 1379 01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,120 Speaker 1: say to him in the midst of all of this, 1380 01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:02,839 Speaker 1: what do you how do you invoke one a deeper 1381 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:08,200 Speaker 1: train of thought, but two a deeper faith that that 1382 01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:12,360 Speaker 1: that that good, that that that are your faith that 1383 01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:13,320 Speaker 1: that will prevail. 1384 01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,759 Speaker 3: Well, it's a that's a deep question, and. 1385 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,639 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna do a weave to get get 1386 01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,880 Speaker 2: get to that because something that you said, really it's 1387 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,839 Speaker 2: something that I didn't realize how much I was wrestling 1388 01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,720 Speaker 2: with it until you articulated it, which is, you know, 1389 01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,639 Speaker 2: the risk of how far you push the microphone that 1390 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:36,600 Speaker 2: really resonated with me, and many of the things that 1391 01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:42,519 Speaker 2: I'm sharing with your audience have been validated over time, 1392 01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:47,799 Speaker 2: and it was at considerable risk to be the person 1393 01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 2: that said things when I was literally a guy on 1394 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,880 Speaker 2: an island in twenty twenty one, and so to the 1395 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:58,200 Speaker 2: to the ogs in the election integrity movement, I have 1396 01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:01,559 Speaker 2: a cachet and a credibility with those people because I 1397 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:07,639 Speaker 2: spoke when it mattered. But there's also been a timing 1398 01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,720 Speaker 2: with me too. I'm probably a little bit more aggressive 1399 01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,559 Speaker 2: than most people in trying to future cast and cast 1400 01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,080 Speaker 2: a vision for where I think things. 1401 01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:16,720 Speaker 3: Need to go. 1402 01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:22,360 Speaker 2: Whether I'm right or wrong, and most cases, given time, 1403 01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:26,960 Speaker 2: things play out kind of close to what I've been articulating. 1404 01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,479 Speaker 2: But there's always a risk of in faith. I've got 1405 01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,400 Speaker 2: something that I think God's given me this download, and 1406 01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,920 Speaker 2: I think it's true, and I think he wants me 1407 01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,800 Speaker 2: to share it because I need to shepherd minds to 1408 01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:45,879 Speaker 2: be prepared to see themselves in a more empowered way 1409 01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,960 Speaker 2: six months from now. And there's always a risk because 1410 01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,800 Speaker 2: if you're wrong, it's like you're the false prophet or 1411 01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:55,280 Speaker 2: you're your ex y and Z. And I've struggled with that, 1412 01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:59,719 Speaker 2: but my instinct is always to risk having people think 1413 01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:04,519 Speaker 2: that I'm crazy or potentially you know, batshit crazy, depending 1414 01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,160 Speaker 2: on what the topic is, if I've integrated it and 1415 01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,479 Speaker 2: I believe it, like okay, so once I've got that conviction. 1416 01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,040 Speaker 2: The only times I've ever had regrets is where I've 1417 01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:18,559 Speaker 2: run away from my intuition. It kind of sold out 1418 01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,880 Speaker 2: because I wanted to be courted by the right people, 1419 01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,599 Speaker 2: and that's made me very, very dangerous for kind of 1420 01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,040 Speaker 2: the top tier podcast the Tuckers of the world. There's 1421 01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:34,120 Speaker 2: a reason why I haven't been on those shows, Like 1422 01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:39,200 Speaker 2: I can defend my positions tooth and nail, But I 1423 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,760 Speaker 2: also get why they might not want that. You know, 1424 01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,920 Speaker 2: it gets back to something that I shared before the 1425 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,840 Speaker 2: show with you that I won't share who is whose 1426 01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,719 Speaker 2: name is? But my largest promotional partner for the film 1427 01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:55,439 Speaker 2: on the day of the launch pulled the rug from 1428 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,960 Speaker 2: me and I would have had five million people at 1429 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:03,320 Speaker 2: least see that film through this platform. And the reason 1430 01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:07,439 Speaker 2: being was because that day Rudy Giuliani was hit with 1431 01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:11,280 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty eight million dollar verdict by Ruby 1432 01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:15,160 Speaker 2: Freeman and Shay Moss and they're in my film featured. 1433 01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,519 Speaker 2: And so the prudent thing is, if you want to 1434 01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,639 Speaker 2: be courted and you want to get the film out, 1435 01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:24,880 Speaker 2: take them out of the film. And so I actually 1436 01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:29,200 Speaker 2: have to evaluate these kind of this quid pro quo. 1437 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,800 Speaker 2: I could have a safer film and it'll be seen 1438 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 2: by people, But it pisses me off that these treasonous 1439 01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:40,920 Speaker 2: traders who scanned and rescanned ballots in the heart of 1440 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,840 Speaker 2: the State farm building, who sold my country out that 1441 01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,840 Speaker 2: put us through hell, that I've got to avoid that 1442 01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:50,920 Speaker 2: because I'm afraid of litigation. I'm afraid of these corrupt lawyers, 1443 01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:54,000 Speaker 2: and I've been in these depositions for eight hours defending 1444 01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:57,599 Speaker 2: clients where there's eighteen attorneys on the other side, eighteen 1445 01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,160 Speaker 2: and it's just me and my nation state expert and 1446 01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,799 Speaker 2: they're trying to destroy the man through a giant trap 1447 01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,240 Speaker 2: that you just kind of you get locked into this 1448 01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,840 Speaker 2: place of like what am I? Why am I in 1449 01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:13,840 Speaker 2: this this movement? Why am I in this battle? And 1450 01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,360 Speaker 2: if we're going to battle, let's battle. Let's pull out 1451 01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,240 Speaker 2: the battle acts, let's go after it and we'll see 1452 01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:24,040 Speaker 2: who's standing. And so that's the only mode that I 1453 01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:27,439 Speaker 2: know from a standpoint of how to fight in this 1454 01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:33,439 Speaker 2: space is I don't care if people particularly are bothered 1455 01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,400 Speaker 2: that I criticize the Scott Presslers of the world, who 1456 01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,439 Speaker 2: will register seven people at a gun show while in 1457 01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,760 Speaker 2: that same county, fifty three thousand people were deleted off 1458 01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:46,840 Speaker 2: of a registration base. Like that's a conversation we should have. 1459 01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:49,680 Speaker 2: But I realize that's going to make me unpopular with 1460 01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:54,640 Speaker 2: everyone that loves Scott Presler, Right, So that microphone discussion, 1461 01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:57,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if I've mastered it. Maybe there's a 1462 01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:01,320 Speaker 2: way to do it better because I see the bigger shows. 1463 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:05,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, if we would have had those megaphones 1464 01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:09,840 Speaker 2: two years ago, we'd be so further ahead and what 1465 01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:13,000 Speaker 2: we need to do. And it kind of bothers me 1466 01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:15,720 Speaker 2: that I have to kind of talk about and telegraph 1467 01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:19,720 Speaker 2: a military solution because we the people haven't held up 1468 01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,959 Speaker 2: our end of the bargain to meet the president halfway, 1469 01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:26,519 Speaker 2: to take over these local county commission meetings and tell 1470 01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,040 Speaker 2: them to hold certification when there's fraud, Like, why is 1471 01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:32,160 Speaker 2: that so controversial? And so now we're back in this 1472 01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:35,879 Speaker 2: passive framework where we're kind of waiting for the president 1473 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,320 Speaker 2: to save us, and I don't really like that. But 1474 01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,760 Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, I'm going to take the 1475 01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,960 Speaker 2: playing board as I see it. So it's, you know, 1476 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,160 Speaker 2: to bring the weave in. How do I communicate to 1477 01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:51,240 Speaker 2: kids and young men and young women in the space. 1478 01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,400 Speaker 2: I've kind of given you an insight in a way 1479 01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:57,200 Speaker 2: that I think, which is all that matters is the truth. 1480 01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:02,280 Speaker 2: And life is so frag it's so finite that I 1481 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,519 Speaker 2: don't know if my ticket's going to be punched tomorrow. 1482 01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,000 Speaker 2: I could run through an intersection and it's over. And 1483 01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:11,360 Speaker 2: so just find your your warriors. The people that you 1484 01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:16,599 Speaker 2: wanted to yoke with, have the humility to apologize when 1485 01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,960 Speaker 2: you screw up and say something wrong. Correct the record. 1486 01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:22,519 Speaker 2: I've gotten lots of things wrongs in my evolution over 1487 01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:26,120 Speaker 2: the past five years, but ultimately we should we should 1488 01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:30,200 Speaker 2: be seeking a target audience of one, and that's christ 1489 01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:33,200 Speaker 2: If you was in the room right now, like what 1490 01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,519 Speaker 2: would you what would you have me say? What would 1491 01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,439 Speaker 2: you have me do? And that's all that matters, and 1492 01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:43,599 Speaker 2: then everything else kind of fades to the background, as 1493 01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:46,320 Speaker 2: you know, as noise. Because I really do have this 1494 01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:50,160 Speaker 2: thought that one day I'm going to be standing before 1495 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:54,200 Speaker 2: my maker, and so every decision that I've made over 1496 01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:59,599 Speaker 2: five years to jeopardize my career my job came from 1497 01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:04,240 Speaker 2: this sense that I would rather be judged by history 1498 01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:08,880 Speaker 2: than my coward peers at the university, the coward attorneys 1499 01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:12,840 Speaker 2: that didn't do anything after twenty twenty. And for those 1500 01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,280 Speaker 2: that want to play the game and run a kind 1501 01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:18,880 Speaker 2: of safe podcast where they've got better numbers and millions 1502 01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:22,200 Speaker 2: of views. Cool, that's you and great. I wish I 1503 01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,719 Speaker 2: could get on your show, But I'm a punk rocker 1504 01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:26,640 Speaker 2: at heart, and I. 1505 01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,679 Speaker 3: Think it's way cooler to be with the rowdy kids. 1506 01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:33,519 Speaker 2: So that's my answer to the ones out there, and 1507 01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:35,240 Speaker 2: maybe they like it, maybe they don't. 1508 01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:36,320 Speaker 3: I don't care. 1509 01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,840 Speaker 1: That's as punk rock as it gets, and that's as 1510 01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:47,519 Speaker 1: Christian as it gets. Jeez, that's the perfect place to 1511 01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:47,880 Speaker 1: end this. 1512 01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:50,800 Speaker 3: I just. 1513 01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:56,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, just thank you for your courage to speak 1514 01:31:56,280 --> 01:32:02,040 Speaker 1: your mind. Thank you for going down into the You know, 1515 01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,800 Speaker 1: I think one of the hardest things is to recognize 1516 01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:08,759 Speaker 1: that when you're in a battle against evil, just how 1517 01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:14,080 Speaker 1: overwhelming and how much fear can you know rip through 1518 01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:18,040 Speaker 1: your soul to the point where every step is a 1519 01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:21,880 Speaker 1: step you feel like you're going to be destroyed. But again, 1520 01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:25,600 Speaker 1: if you do believe in your real true believer, you 1521 01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:29,120 Speaker 1: know that Christ is our king, and Christ is our salvation, 1522 01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:32,880 Speaker 1: and in the righteousness that he shares with his truth, 1523 01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:37,439 Speaker 1: you know that that is your pathway to salvation. And 1524 01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:42,280 Speaker 1: so I think you're a profound example of the things 1525 01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:46,120 Speaker 1: that you believe. There are many, many, many of them 1526 01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:51,240 Speaker 1: that I automatically gravitate to, and I just love so 1527 01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:56,360 Speaker 1: much the way you communicate you're not for You're not 1528 01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,519 Speaker 1: you know, you're not insisting I believe you're not You're 1529 01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:04,040 Speaker 1: not for me. You're not condemning anybody's other belief systems. 1530 01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:08,640 Speaker 1: You're just you're you're sharing your story of this remarkable 1531 01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:12,679 Speaker 1: evolution to truth and and and the fact that you're 1532 01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:14,800 Speaker 1: still in the fight, and you're still willing to be 1533 01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,639 Speaker 1: in the fight with you have so much at stake 1534 01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:20,880 Speaker 1: and so much at risk, just proves that you really 1535 01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:24,080 Speaker 1: do believe what you believe, and and that in and 1536 01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:29,280 Speaker 1: of itself is is noble indeed. So thank you so 1537 01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:33,720 Speaker 1: much for coming on. Where can people follow you? How 1538 01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:37,280 Speaker 1: can they pay attention and and and how can they 1539 01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:37,840 Speaker 1: support you? 1540 01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:43,000 Speaker 2: Well, David, thanks for having me. It's been a wonderful conversation. 1541 01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:46,160 Speaker 2: And it's rare when I get to have a conversation 1542 01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:48,320 Speaker 2: with someone who's been an operator in his own right, 1543 01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:53,600 Speaker 2: who's who's thought through the kind of the intelligence dynamics 1544 01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,960 Speaker 2: of the ever changing narrative landscape. 1545 01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,360 Speaker 3: And so I was kind of nerding out a little 1546 01:33:59,360 --> 01:33:59,799 Speaker 3: bit today. 1547 01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,520 Speaker 2: I don't always have the depth of this type of conversation, 1548 01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:06,800 Speaker 2: so I really appreciate that. But as far as where 1549 01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:08,600 Speaker 2: you can find me, I've got a website called the 1550 01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:12,280 Speaker 2: professors Record dot com all one word, the Professor's Record 1551 01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:15,320 Speaker 2: dot com, and there's little tabs to the different social 1552 01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,439 Speaker 2: media so find me wherever, and I do ask people 1553 01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:22,000 Speaker 2: to consider follow me at Substack. Every Sunday I put 1554 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:29,040 Speaker 2: out a weekly article slash short film that kind of 1555 01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:31,680 Speaker 2: goes through a lot of these topics, and the one 1556 01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:36,080 Speaker 2: that I just dropped yesterday was on predictive programming and 1557 01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:42,799 Speaker 2: nonlinear warfare dealing with soft power. So we get into 1558 01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:46,400 Speaker 2: many many movies, you know, stuff like Top Gun. Why 1559 01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,760 Speaker 2: was it that in the bomber Jacket in part two 1560 01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:53,280 Speaker 2: you don't have the Taiwan flag or Japan It's geometric shapes. 1561 01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:59,040 Speaker 2: What's the significance of ELSA and the timing of Frozen 1562 01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:02,080 Speaker 2: when that materialized, when Hillary Clinton was kind of an 1563 01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:05,080 Speaker 2: ice queen trying to melt the hearts of the American people. 1564 01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:07,920 Speaker 2: We get into all of that in this episode. So 1565 01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:11,080 Speaker 2: every Sunday I'm trying to give people a meditation. But 1566 01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:13,920 Speaker 2: many the things that we touched on today are in 1567 01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:19,840 Speaker 2: previous episodes where I walk people through history and the 1568 01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,280 Speaker 2: things that I'm wrestling with, and maybe there's a little 1569 01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:26,000 Speaker 2: bit of wish fulfillment on. I don't know if you 1570 01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,040 Speaker 2: see it as clearly as I do, mister President, but 1571 01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:32,280 Speaker 2: I sure hope you've got the best, brightest military minds 1572 01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,840 Speaker 2: behind you to help us get our country back, and 1573 01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:38,960 Speaker 2: so that's where my focus has been for the past 1574 01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:40,000 Speaker 2: six months. 1575 01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:44,080 Speaker 3: Amen, Thank you so much, Professor. Thanks Dave,