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Speaker 1: Coming up, all right, a few things now.

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Speaker 2: It got serious on Friday with Micah Parsons, because up

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Speaker 2: until this point I just thought it was a chess game.

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Speaker 2: And Jerry's done this before. But always remember this if

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Speaker 2: you're a Cowboy fan. Jerry doesn't lose anybody that he

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Speaker 2: wants to keep. If he wants to keep Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 2: he'll keep Michah Parsons. What happened is Michael parsons agent

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Speaker 2: got involved in this. Jerry likes to talk to the

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Speaker 2: player and let's work this out. And normally the player

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Speaker 2: does pretty well with Jerry Jones. But in this situation,

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Speaker 2: Michael Parsons has requested a trade. Here is Jerry Jones

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Speaker 2: on the message that he's sending to Cowboy fans.

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Speaker 3: As always, in any relationships or different moods at different

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Speaker 3: times of your relationship, that's what it is. And don't

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Speaker 3: lose in sleepover. So just evens one thing I would

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Speaker 3: say to our fan, don't lose in sleepover.

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Speaker 4: Just to be clear, you don't feel the relationship has

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Speaker 4: changed at all from the Super Bowl Big twelve.

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Speaker 3: Again, I know my attitude, and my attitude is the

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Speaker 3: same one I've had. I think the world of Micah.

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Speaker 3: He's an outstanding player. He can really help us, but

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Speaker 3: he's got to fit in with what's in the best

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Speaker 3: interest of the team. And that's what the negotiation is

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Speaker 3: all about.

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Speaker 2: And it's not just about money. It's about trust, and

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Speaker 2: the trust is wearing thin. You have Jerry and his son.

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Speaker 2: They walked the type rope before, but this feels a

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Speaker 2: little bit different than Ceedee Lamb or Dak Prescott. Parsons

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Speaker 2: isn't just another disgruntled player. He's a foundational piece. When

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Speaker 2: you think of the defense. He's one of the top

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Speaker 2: two three four players on defense in the NFL. And

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Speaker 2: not every trade request ends in departure. But you know,

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Speaker 2: the tension is there, and I always wonder about the

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Speaker 2: relationship that, yes, you can kind of tamp that down

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Speaker 2: a little bit, you can bury it a little bit,

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Speaker 2: but it's still there. Now if Jerry really wanted to

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Speaker 2: play in toy with Michah Parsons. You know, you can

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Speaker 2: franchise tag him for a couple of years if you

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Speaker 2: wanted to. It feels like Jerry has gotten what he wanted.

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Speaker 2: You know, keep this in mind of when he bought

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Speaker 2: the team, he got the three Super Bowls. Now it

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Speaker 2: just feels like he loves being in the spotlight. The

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Speaker 2: Cowboys are going to lead every show, Michah Parsons, They're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about the Cowboys. He does subscribe to

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Speaker 2: any publicity is good publicity?

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 2: But he's a brilliant businessman and the Cowboys are worth

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Speaker 2: ten billion dollars.

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Speaker 5: The number of.

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Speaker 2: Analysts who have in the last year or maybe a

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Speaker 2: year and a half said this is about publicity. If

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Speaker 2: Jerry didn't have those three soupers, I wonder what his

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Speaker 2: approach would be as an owner. Because he's got three,

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Speaker 2: and he's a Hall of Famer and he's a billionaire.

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Speaker 2: I think he craves the attention. I think he loves

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Speaker 2: the attention. They haven't won anything. Now, They've flirted with

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Speaker 2: some good seasons that end up, you know, and you

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Speaker 2: know it's a crash a thud, But I just wonder

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Speaker 2: about Jerry when it comes to having a microphone in

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Speaker 2: his face, cameras in his face, everybody waiting to talk

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Speaker 2: to you, waiting to see what you say, and sometimes

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Speaker 2: the I don't Maybe lack of urgency has always concerned me.

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Speaker 2: Here you're probably the third best team in your own division.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think you can play games like this.

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Speaker 2: I think get a contract done and move on. Get

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Speaker 2: a contract. If you truly want to keep Micah Parsons

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Speaker 2: and c d Lamb and Dak Prescott, then get the

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Speaker 2: job done. Get it done, because if you're going to wait,

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Speaker 2: every time you've waited, it's cost you more money and

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Speaker 2: you need to have a full roster. You're top heavy

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Speaker 2: with Micah and Dak and Ceedee Lamb. But this is

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Speaker 2: your goal when you draft them. Your goal is I

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Speaker 2: hope he's one of the greatest defensive players and he's

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Speaker 2: here for a long time. Well, he's one of the

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Speaker 2: greatest defensive players, but now you're making him rethink if

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Speaker 2: he wants to be here. Ceedee Lamb. I hope he

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Speaker 2: becomes one of the best receivers in the game. He

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Speaker 2: has Now Dak Prescott, you can say, oh, you know what,

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Speaker 2: if he proves to be a starter and he's consistent, man,

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Speaker 2: that'll be great. We found a diamond in the rough. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you got him, you signed him, you paid him more

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Speaker 2: than you needed to. But that's your guy. He can

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Speaker 2: be loyal. But then you're not quite sure why he

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Speaker 2: gets some deals done and then doesn't get Michaeh. Parsons

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Speaker 2: done when you could have. And I go back to

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Speaker 2: April when before the draft. Now, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you got everybody who can be involved in this. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to wait till August if I'm gonna play

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Speaker 2: a game and say, all right, you know, maybe, well

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Speaker 2: we'll trade him if we have to. He doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to be here, we'll trade him in April. Everybody can

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Speaker 2: be involved in this. If you truly aren't all in

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Speaker 2: on Micah Parsons, that's when we should have been discussing this,

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Speaker 2: not now, because it still feels like Jerry he's going

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Speaker 2: to get this done at some point. It might be

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Speaker 2: in three weeks, it might be on you know, the Sunday,

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Speaker 2: you know when they open up, what is it a month?

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Speaker 2: A month from today the Cowboys open up, right, So

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Speaker 2: is that what his I mean, we headed towards that

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Speaker 2: kind of deadline finish line with Jerry. It just it

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Speaker 2: feels like he loves Craves, needs that attention, and he's

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Speaker 2: gotten it. But if he didn't have those three Super Bowls,

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Speaker 2: I wonder if his approach would be a whole lot different.

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Speaker 4: All Right, See let's poll question today. Is Dallas a

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Speaker 4: good place to play?

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Speaker 6: Yes or no?

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Speaker 2: You don't want to lose that address Like you're a cowboy.

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Speaker 2: It's different. If Dak played for Jacksonville, no one would

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Speaker 2: care Ceedee Lamb. If he was in Cleveland, we'd be like,

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Speaker 2: that guy's pretty good. Micah Parsons, he would be different

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Speaker 2: because Michael Parsons would still be a force no matter

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Speaker 2: where he is. But being a cowboy, it means something

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Speaker 2: more than any other franchise, as loyal as Green Bay is,

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Speaker 2: as Pittsburgh is, you know, the old Raiders. There's something

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Speaker 2: about being a Dallas cowboy everything that goes with that.

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Speaker 2: You get clicks, you get headlines, you get publicity, you

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Speaker 2: get endorsements. You're a cowboy if you can put up

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Speaker 2: with that. From the standpoint of everything you do is

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Speaker 2: under a magnifying glass. You know, I saw Dak Prescott's

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Speaker 2: building a mansion and I saw the early stages of that,

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Speaker 2: or a gender reveal with his wife or girlfriend gets

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Speaker 2: all there. You know, you got Troy Aikman who something said,

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Speaker 2: you know Troy that you know he talks about the cowboys.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be put there on the front page.

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Speaker 2: Tony Romo, I mean they got jobs, they're cowboys. Jason

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Speaker 2: Garrett got a job, Jason Witten got a job. So

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Speaker 2: you you do have I mean it means something. It's

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Speaker 2: like being a Laker, kind of like being a Dodger

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Speaker 2: or a Yankee, but to a lesser degree. But you know,

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Speaker 2: you have that address and if you can, if you

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Speaker 2: can put up with everything that goes along with that,

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Speaker 2: it's a great place to play.

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Speaker 4: Yes, se right, But there's the address and then there's

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Speaker 4: everything that comes with the address, and one of those

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Speaker 4: things is not rings. What you get is you're overrated

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Speaker 4: because you're a cowboy. You get constant abuse from cowboy fans.

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Speaker 4: We could just look at Shae for that. There's these

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Speaker 4: unbelievable expectations of greatness despite no real recent track history

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Speaker 4: of being able to accomplish that. It feels like that

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Speaker 4: address is maybe a little delusional right now about what

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Speaker 4: that address means.

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Speaker 2: I think it's absolutely delusional because it's been thirty years. Correct,

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Speaker 2: No team in any sport in the United States has

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Speaker 2: gotten more publicity for doing less than Dallas. But Dallas

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Speaker 2: gets more publicity than anybody. And you're living off those

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Speaker 2: fumes of a different generation with the triplets there and

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Speaker 2: Jerry is built out, build up this house.

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Speaker 5: Credit that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, he still means something. What the Cowboys mean, but

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Speaker 2: they don't mean anything thing if you think about it,

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Speaker 2: like they're just a curiosity, that's all. I got a

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Speaker 2: what's the over? Under seven and a half maybe eight

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Speaker 2: and a half at the most. Maybe they make the

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Speaker 2: playoffs this year. It all goes well. Here's another thing

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Speaker 2: that's kind of lost in this, in my opinion, you

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Speaker 2: have Brian Schottenheimer, who was a first time head coach.

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Speaker 5: It's already tough enough to coach the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Now we're going to, you know, give you a degree

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Speaker 2: of difficulty here, and he's trying to establish a culture here.

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Speaker 2: What's hard to do that when your best player is

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Speaker 2: right over there and he's not practicing. You got a

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Speaker 2: You got Pickens, who's going to eventually want a contract too. Like,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of things involved in this. You know,

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Speaker 2: they do some things really really well, and then there

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Speaker 2: are other things where you go and this is where

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Speaker 2: the attention to detail I think has cost them greatly.

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Speaker 2: And as somebody with the Players Association said to me

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Speaker 2: last weekend, if you wait many how many months with

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Speaker 2: Michael Parson, if you know that you love Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 2: then it's like when you say, you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: want to get married, but I'm going to stay engaged,

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Speaker 2: And then the next year we're still engaged, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I want to get married. Well, then

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Speaker 2: you're probably not going to get married or you shouldn't

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Speaker 2: get married. But when you meet somebody and you say, hey,

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Speaker 2: you're the person. Hey, I've been with you for four

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Speaker 2: years and you have performed at the highest level, then

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Speaker 2: you marry him. You sign him up. But Jerry's like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, he could get hit by a car?

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Speaker 2: What what.

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Speaker 5: He could? And so could you?

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Speaker 7: Yes, Marvin, don't you try to draft well and get

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Speaker 7: a great edge rusher so you can sign him? So

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Speaker 7: he can be on that team for the rest of

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Speaker 7: his career. Yes, crazy thought, that's that's the goal. That's

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Speaker 7: the goal.

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Speaker 2: That you found your guy and then all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden you're not quite sure and I'm I'm sure a

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Speaker 5: I'm going to capitalize on this one. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand the logic unless you say, we well,

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Speaker 7: Yes, Martin, and don't forget Jerry almost screwed up the

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, Bil.

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Speaker 5: It'll get done.

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Speaker 2: Why is this different with Michael Parsons than maybe other

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Speaker 12: I don't remember a player ever making a trade request

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Speaker 5: But Jerry is going to sign him, right, I.

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Speaker 12: they've played well. Now, Mike, if he misses games all

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Speaker 12: that stuff, everything changes.

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Speaker 7: A little bit.

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Speaker 12: But there's also an element if is Mica not going

440
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Speaker 12: to play? Is he not going to earn twenty one

441
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Speaker 12: million dollars this year?

442
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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 12: So eventually he will have to get on the field.

444
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Speaker 12: And I would also point out that in the Cowboys mind,

445
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Speaker 12: they've gone through this, they had a franchise Dak Prescott,

446
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Speaker 12: he played out his contract. They had a franchise to

447
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Speaker 12: Marcus Lawrence. He played out his contract. And that's what

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Speaker 12: Jerry was essentially saying to us on Saturday was he

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Speaker 12: has under contract. We've seen guys play that their last

450
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Speaker 12: years before, and he believes if they don't get a deal,

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Speaker 12: that's what will happen again. And the Cowboys can use

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Speaker 12: the franchise tag on on Micah in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 12: twenty twenty seven, and even twenty twenty eight, if they

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Speaker 12: don't get a deal, If they want to go that route, Jerry,

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Speaker 12: we can talk about this again.

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Speaker 6: Dan'd be great.

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Speaker 5: Just how important is winning to Jerry?

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Speaker 12: That's a great question, and he'll always say it's at

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Speaker 12: the top of the mind.

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Speaker 7: It's been.

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Speaker 12: If this is the thirtieth year without a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 12: We'll see what happens this year.

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Speaker 7: But I think think there are people.

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Speaker 12: That will say the Cowboys enjoy the limelight, enjoy the cash,

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Speaker 12: enjoy being the most notorious team in the league, maybe

466
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Speaker 12: more than winning, and that plays into Jerry's mindset sometimes.

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Speaker 12: I think he wants to win. I don't think there's

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Speaker 12: a question of that. I think he wants to win

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Speaker 12: his way.

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Speaker 2: They should do a thirty for thirty this year as

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Speaker 2: the thirtieth anniversary of the Cowboys and look back on

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Speaker 2: these thirty years or the previous twenty nine years of

473
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Speaker 2: what went right, what went wrong, all the different movements

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Speaker 2: and coaches. And I don't even know if Ryan Schottenheimer

475
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Speaker 2: can be a head coach. I mean, you're also putting

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Speaker 2: a rookie coach in this situation. And there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of things that just feels like we're not even looking

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Speaker 2: at the bigger picture of the Cowboys when they get

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Speaker 2: on the football field.

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Speaker 5: It's all this ancillary.

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Speaker 12: Stuff, right, And that's the issue, right, that the focus

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Speaker 12: is away from the field, away from football, that football

483
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Speaker 12: isn't always the most important thing when it should be.

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Speaker 12: I asked Brian Schottenheimer if he ever feels caught in

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Speaker 12: the middle during these situations, and he said, no, I'm

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Speaker 12: a guy who can see both sides, see all the angles,

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Speaker 12: and I'll communicate to Jerry and Steven, and I'll communicate

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Speaker 12: to Micah and the players. And so far he's he's

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Speaker 12: handled it well. He's obviously the son of a longtime

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Speaker 12: head coach, has seen a lot of things in his

491
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Speaker 12: time as an assistant coach, seeing a lot of things

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Speaker 12: when he was growing up. There's nothing like the Cowboys, though.

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Speaker 5: Have fun, Todd, I'll try.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Todd Archer, he SKEPN NFL Nation reporter governed the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys since two thousand and three.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the bigger picture is are they any good? Dylan?

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Speaker 5: Who's in for Paul today?

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Speaker 2: I told you to check DraftKings odds of what are

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Speaker 2: the odds of the Cowboys winning a playoff game?

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Speaker 9: So they don't have that specifically, but they have some

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Speaker 9: similar to one. So to miss the playoffs their minds

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Speaker 9: to twenty okay, not a lot of hope. They're to

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Speaker 9: lose in the wild card round plus four hundred. That's

504
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Speaker 9: a pretty good bet. If they do make the playoffs, okay,

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Speaker 9: historically speaking, to lose in the divisional round plus eight hundred,

506
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Speaker 9: to losing the conference championship game plus two thousand, and

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Speaker 9: then if you really want to waste some money, to

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Speaker 9: lose in the Super Bowl plus forty five hundred, and

509
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Speaker 9: to win the Super Bowl plus plus five thousand.

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Speaker 2: Hy Tom in North Carolina, Hi, Tom, what's on your

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Speaker 2: mind today?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 14: DP, I was listening to that SoundBite from Jerry Jones's

514
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Speaker 14: comments about Micah Parsons, and he did say, you know,

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Speaker 14: when you're guaranteeing around two hundred million, So I mean,

516
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Speaker 14: if you're doing the math, it's you know, that's a

517
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Speaker 14: little bit less. It's a five year extension, but it's

518
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Speaker 14: a little bit less than TJ.

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Speaker 6: Watt.

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Speaker 14: So I'm wondering, do you think Micah's deal is going

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Speaker 14: to be all guaranteed money around two hundred million.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but it feels like if I'm Michael

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Speaker 2: Parsons agent, that's what I want. Miles Garrett got four years,

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Speaker 2: one sixty, Max Crosby three years, one oh six point five,

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Speaker 2: TJ Watt three years, won twenty three. Parsons said to

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Speaker 2: make twenty one point three million on the fifth year option. Here,

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Speaker 2: I mean you could always, you know, continue to push

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Speaker 2: this a little bit and see if Dak is willing

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Speaker 2: to give up twenty one million dollars. Everybody who thinks

530
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Speaker 2: about hey, he should sit out. They should all go

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Speaker 2: back to Le'Veon bell. Hey, you set out for the Steelers.

532
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: How did that go? Yes, the Jets were dumb enough

533
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Speaker 2: to give you some money, but you don't make up

534
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Speaker 2: that money and it was I don't know, it might

535
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Speaker 2: have been fifteen million dollars. But Michaeh Parsons isn't going

536
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Speaker 2: to lose twenty one million dollars. And Jerry knows if

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Speaker 2: they're going to make the playoffs, if they're going to

538
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Speaker 2: have any hope this year, you got to have Michael

539
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Speaker 2: Parsons in there. Yeah, Dylan demanding in trade seems like

540
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: a much better strategy than holding out for the like

541
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Speaker 2: same end result ultimately, but without any real downside. Well,

542
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: he's holding in and he doesn't he doesn't want to

543
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Speaker 2: leave the Cowboys. Now I don't believe that for a second.

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Speaker 2: Once again, this is part of negotiations. It feels like

545
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Speaker 2: now Terry McLaurin, I don't know how that plays out.

546
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Speaker 2: And that's a really big deal as well. It's just

547
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Speaker 2: not going to get the attention because he plays for

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Speaker 2: the Commanders. Dylan in Maine, Hi, Dylan, what's on your

549
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 2: mind today?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 13: DP, I'm just wanting to tell you about a great

552
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Speaker 13: golf course in Maine. I know you have a hall here.

553
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Speaker 13: It's the Tannis Golf Course in Bassboro. It's thirty six holes.

554
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Speaker 13: It's a great course. But I wanted to talk about

555
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Speaker 13: like Stephen Jones seems like he doesn't get any of

556
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Speaker 13: the blame at all, and he's not really a young guy,

557
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Speaker 13: and he needs to step up to his dad and

558
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Speaker 13: be like you need to like stall.

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Speaker 5: Jerry, I don't know that that's gonna happen.

560
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Speaker 2: Steven doesn't get any credit or any blame because it

561
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Speaker 2: doesn't feel like he's really involved in the decision making.

562
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Speaker 5: I'm assuming he is. But but Jerry takes the air

563
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Speaker 5: out of the room.

564
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Speaker 2: This is about Jerry Jones. He didn't want to share

565
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Speaker 2: anything Poppy in Rochester. Hi, Poppy, what's on your mind?

566
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Speaker 6: Hi?

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Speaker 15: Then the first time a long time, I disagree with

568
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Speaker 15: everything you guys traut size Tom Brady not as Tom Brady,

569
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Speaker 15: but he's involved with in soccer.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

571
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Speaker 15: The European champions PSG from friends are owned by oil people. Liverpool,

572
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Speaker 15: one of the greatest things in the world, is owned

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Speaker 15: by the Red Sox people. The Manchester United is owned

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Speaker 15: by the Tampa Bay people. It is how much you know?

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Speaker 15: Chelsea is owned by the la not just people. I

576
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Speaker 15: was at the Club World Cup final the Giants Stadium

577
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Speaker 15: eighty one. Thou you know But what I disagree with

578
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Speaker 15: your comments made you guys said, was that how much

579
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Speaker 15: Dom Brady knows about soccer. It's not how much you know,

580
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Speaker 15: it's the money that talks. He has, the money he

581
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Speaker 15: puts up by the club. He put the best people,

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Speaker 15: they know the business and they're going to have a

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Speaker 15: successful operation.

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Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't have the money anywhere near the money

585
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Speaker 2: of these other people you're talking about. And I don't

586
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: know if you know, the Glazier family allowed people to

587
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: follow them and they go, we don't know anything about soccer,

588
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: but once, once we build up this team, we're gonna sell.

589
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: Like his pr approach to this is what we're commenting on.

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Speaker 2: So thank you for the phone call.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think Poppy said it in there because I

592
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Speaker 4: think everything that he says is right. He said, you

593
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Speaker 4: put the best people in place to make the decisions. Well,

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Speaker 4: the way that this is being presented is that we're

595
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Speaker 4: making the decisions. We're the guys that know how to win.

596
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 4: Tom is the guy who's gonna we need a new

597
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 4: coach because this coach isn't the right one. How the

598
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: hell does he know that they're trying to run over

599
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: tactics with him at one point, and uh, like you know,

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00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 4: it's very clear. It's like, oh so this guy needs

601
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Speaker 4: to stand over here. Okay, got it, got it? Like

602
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 4: it just doesn't it's really not translating. He's really not

603
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Speaker 4: connecting with the material at all. I think that it's

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Speaker 4: the more about it has nothing to do with money.

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00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: It's more about the way it's being presented as this

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Speaker 4: hands on approach to their ownership that seems wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you look at Wrexham, you know, Rob

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Speaker 2: and Ryan they never said they knew soccer.

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Speaker 4: There's actually a moment in the in one of the

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Speaker 4: episodes when it's the Wrexham Birmingham game where they're all

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Speaker 4: talking about their experiences like yeah, so we own Wrexham,

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Speaker 4: Yeah we own Birmingham and they're like, oh yeah, we're

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Speaker 4: down in the locker room all the time, and they're

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Speaker 4: like Rob is like really, oh no, no.

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Speaker 6: We don't do that.

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Speaker 4: No, Like well, we'll be in there and be like

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Speaker 4: hey guys, all right, what's up, Like do what you do?

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Speaker 4: We're gonna go watch, but we're very hands off because

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Speaker 4: we don't know anything about the game.

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Speaker 2: And that should be the approach of Tom is be

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Speaker 2: one of the silent owners in there. But you can

622
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Speaker 2: be there for your team and your community. But if

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Speaker 2: you don't know soccer, then you hire people who do

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Speaker 2: know soccer.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Marvin, that's the funny thing. You say the same

626
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Speaker 7: thing about NFL owners.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the guy who gets too involved where we go,

628
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Speaker 2: will you just be an owner? Just just being an owner.

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Speaker 2: It's when they go, you know, I'm gonna make this

630
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Speaker 2: draft pick. Wait what No, No, we don't want Johnny Manziel.

631
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Speaker 2: Yes we do. No, No, we don't know.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, we won't take him.

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Speaker 7: Yes.

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Speaker 9: Still, there's an episode you know that show The Studio, Yeah,

635
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Speaker 9: where like Seth Rogan, the studio head goes to the

636
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Speaker 9: set and just like derail everything.

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Speaker 5: And that's just the same version of this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in the wrong place at the wrong time,

639
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: and you know that's where you go, I'm going to

640
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: go out there on the movie set and then you

641
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: go out there and you're like, uh, what are you

642
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Speaker 2: doing here?

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Speaker 5: You have no idea what you're doing, do you No?

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Speaker 2: team to play for?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

656
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 5: Or no? Are your handsome right now?

657
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 4: Eighty six percent say you want to get Yes, that

658
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: would be no. Oh they're only get They're getting fourteen

659
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 4: percent of low right now saying that yes, it is

660
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 4: a good place to play. Well, what other that's a

661
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: big number. Yes, that's a big I thought it would

662
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: be way closer than that. Yeah, especially like I don't know,

663
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: given our audience, I thought there would be a little

664
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 4: more respect for the team that way. But do you

665
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 4: think that that's just recency bias or do you think

666
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 4: that's how far the Cowboys have fallen in terms of reputation.

667
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: Well, the number of people who hate the Cowboys probably

668
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 2: voted as well.

669
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,959
Speaker 5: And they're not a very good team.

670
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: Well, I guess if you factor all that in, I

671
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: still think that address means something, and I look at

672
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: it differently.

673
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 5: You're just you're more famous.

674
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: I mean, Michael Parsons has a podcast because he's on

675
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: the Cowboys.

676
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 5: No, it's like Draymond Green.

677
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: Nobody would care if he played in Atlanta, but he's

678
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: with Golden State and he has a pod. You know,

679
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: it just feels like there's certain addresses that mean a

680
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: little bit more, yes, Dylan.

681
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Speaker 9: Well, also, I mean, based on our caller earlier too,

682
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 9: a lot of those votes against playing there might be

683
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 9: from Cowboys fans themselves too. They don't exactly seem like

684
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 9: thrilled on that join up.

685
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: The moment over under is eight and a half wins

686
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: for the Cowboys this year. Let's bring in the freshly

687
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: minted Hall of Famer winner of Pro Football Hall of

688
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: Fame Pete Rosel Radio TV Award. He's Brent Musburger. Do

689
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: you feel any different after this weekend?

690
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 16: You know, it was such an honor, Dan, and I

691
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 16: owe you so much appreciation because I wasn't even thinking

692
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 16: about it until you and Jim Nantz brought it up

693
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 16: and then Dick for Meal kind of carried the ball

694
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 16: from there, and so I owe so much to everybody.

695
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 6: It was a It was a wonderful weekend. Dan. I

696
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 6: have to say that.

697
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 16: I was shocked when Jane Kennedy was brought in to

698
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 16: introduce me okay at the banquet that night, completely unexpected.

699
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 16: And of course De along with Phyllis George worked on

700
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 16: the NFL today at IRV Cross and Jimmy the Great

701
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 16: James got a book out called Playing James and she's

702
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 16: a great story. I recommend that for it. But then

703
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 16: I want to compliment the city of Canton, Ohio. You know,

704
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 16: this is their biggest weekend. People were so nice in

705
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 16: the committee and oh, by the way, I had at

706
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 16: least two people mentioned Dan Patrick needs to bring his

707
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 16: show into Canton for the Hall of Fame. Okay, they

708
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 16: came right to me. I said, listen, I'll mention this Dan,

709
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 16: because we had over a hundred Hall of Famers show up.

710
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 16: So yes, I so appreciate the honor and so does

711
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 16: the family. But I was a kid in a candy

712
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 16: store when they started introducing all these guys that I

713
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 16: had covered. Dan Fouse did a fantastic job. They bring

714
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 16: him out to a stage and then they set a

715
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 16: couple of rows on either side and they bring out

716
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 16: the new Hall of Famers. And you know, the four

717
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 16: guys who were inducted this year had such great stories

718
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 16: when they came out.

719
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Speaker 6: I'll start with STIRLINGE. Sharp. He was the only one

720
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 6: onto the floor.

721
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 16: By the way, it was a first round draft choice,

722
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 16: so okay by the Green Day Packers. And then it

723
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 16: was so heartwarming when he and Shannon hugged each other

724
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 16: up on the stage.

725
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 6: Shannon presented him with the.

726
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 16: Gold jacket, first first brothers to make the Pro Football

727
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 16: Hall of Fame, and I couldn't resist. I got over

728
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 16: to Stirling. I whispered in his ear. Eli Manning will

729
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 16: never forgive you, you.

730
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: Know, heybet Eli to the punch there, going into the

731
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: whole bit.

732
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

733
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 2: But I don't know why it took so long. And

734
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: maybe you're not the right person to ask this, but

735
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: you're in. You're a Hall of Famer, and and I'm

736
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: very happy, you know, and a lot of this just

737
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 2: like with John Facenda, he was the voice of the NFL,

738
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: and I just said, don't forget about who helped us

739
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: get here to a multi multi billion dollar organization company

740
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 2: and I'm glad you got to experience that. You know,

741
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: I wish that IRV Cross had been around. You know,

742
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: Jimmy the Gree, you know, people that you were with

743
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: when you did the first pregame show. Any idea if

744
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: that was how successful that was going to be when

745
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: you started, Well.

746
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 6: I liked the idea that we were going live.

747
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 16: Remember now, the pregame show on CBS prior to the

748
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 16: NFL Today had been called Countdown to Kickoff, Pat summer

749
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 16: All and Jack Whittaker. They taped it on Friday night,

750
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 16: Friday Night, okay, and it was Bob Wessler's idea, let's

751
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 16: do this live, and then the halftimes in the and

752
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 16: the postgame there was I felt sort of an immediate impact,

753
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 16: especially when Mike Wallace strolled in about week number four

754
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 16: and you guys are doing great. Yeah, because I always

755
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 16: said having up next sixty minutes.

756
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

757
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: What is your favorite moment though or story that if

758
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: you know all the years.

759
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 16: Well, you know, let me go to the night that

760
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 16: Jimmy the Greek and I had a little fist cups

761
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 16: in a New York saloon. Okay, let me tell everybody

762
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 16: Jimmy objected to the fact that he thought I.

763
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 6: Cut him short.

764
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 16: Everybody's got to remember we only had about twenty eight

765
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 16: minutes of airtime, so I had to dish it out

766
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 16: to everybody. Okay. So I was living in Los Angeles

767
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 16: at the time. I saw I was working with Connie

768
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 16: Chum and the news in LA and then I'd fired

769
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 16: for the NFL today. So I got a call the

770
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 16: morning after I returned to LA.

771
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 5: We got a.

772
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 6: Fire of the Greek.

773
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 16: We're going to get rid of him. I said, hey,

774
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 16: hold on, let me get back to you.

775
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 6: A little bit. And I I talked to my wife, Arlene.

776
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 16: I said, you know, Orlean, I don't want the Greek's

777
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 16: blood on my hands because we had an incident.

778
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 6: I mean, we're very close. I like brothers.

779
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 16: So I thought about called him back, and I said,

780
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 16: please don't fire the Greek.

781
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 6: We'll find a way. Okay. So we knew Bob Aram

782
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 6: the boxing guy, really well.

783
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 16: And he got us a bell and a couple of

784
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 16: pairs boxing gloves, and we opened.

785
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 6: Up the next week and made the light of it

786
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 6: and life went on from there. You know, It's it's

787
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 6: the people.

788
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 2: Dan.

789
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 16: I just loved working with the people that we had.

790
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 16: Phyllis left us for a while because she thought she

791
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 16: was going to become an Oscar winning movie star, and

792
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 16: Jane Kennedy was brought in after that, and it was

793
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 16: such a delight. Jane was loved by the players when

794
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 16: she would grow up for the interviews, and then and

795
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 16: then Phyllis came back.

796
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 6: A little bit later.

797
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 16: Things didn't quite work out in Hollywood, but it was

798
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 16: the people that I dealt with that I.

799
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 5: Loved who got the better of the fight.

800
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 16: Well, the Greek hit me and decide, you know, it

801
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 16: wasn't a very tough blow. My brother might have got

802
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 16: the best of it. But the smartest guy in the

803
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 16: bar was the bartender, and he turned the lights off, okay,

804
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 16: and so nobody could see anybody. Okay, kind of calm down,

805
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 16: okay now. But what happened was I was at table

806
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 16: when the Greek came in, but sitting at the bar

807
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 16: was a guy who worked on the city desk of

808
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 16: the New York Post. He ran back and of course

809
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 16: got a bang.

810
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 6: You know, there's the picture of the Greek and fillows

811
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 6: and you know, off, off we go.

812
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 16: If he hadn't been in there having a coal one. Okay,

813
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 16: between shifts. I don't think anybody would have known about it,

814
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 16: to tell you the truth, but yeah.

815
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 7: It was.

816
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 6: It was on in an instant and over in an instant.

817
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: Well, I'm happy for you. I'm proud of you. You

818
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: helped put it in my head that I could do

819
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: this or they had jobs like this when I was

820
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: growing up. But happy in any role that we possibly played.

821
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: But that was more of just to remind people the

822
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: greatness of Brent Musburger.

823
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 5: So thank you. I hope it was everything that you

824
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 5: hoped for this weekend.

825
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 6: It was and Dan, thanks to you. Thank you so much.

826
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: That's the Hall of Brent Musburger twenty twenty five Pro

827
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame inducteem And I was thinking about

828
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 2: this weekend and once again, Brent did all the work.

829
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to remind people of those who came

830
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 2: before us. Kurt Flood is not in the Baseball Hall

831
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 2: of Fame. Kurt Flood is the reason why you have

832
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: the salaries that we have. He challenged Major League Baseball.

833
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: It cost him, but he was willing to sit out

834
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: because he didn't think that he should be treated like

835
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: a piece of property. And Kurt Flood was one of

836
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 2: the great defensive outfielders played for a World Series champion.

837
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 5: He was a very good player.

838
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: But I started to think about the contributions to the game,

839
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: and I love that aspect with Hall of Fames, just

840
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: like John Facenda and Brent Musburger and so many different

841
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: people in certain Halls of Fame that they contributed to

842
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: the growth of the game. Kurt Flood is one of

843
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: the most Oh boy, I don't even know if there's

844
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: word or words courageous to take on Major League Baseball

845
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 2: and say no, you don't own my rights after I'm

846
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: done with your team or done playing. It just felt

847
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: like he said, I'm not a piece of meat here.

848
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: But when you think about the importance, why isn't he

849
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: in the Baseball Hall of Fame as a contributor Like

850
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 2: Buck O'Neil played in the negro leagues, and Buck lived

851
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: long enough to be able to tell everybody about these

852
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: great players who played in the negro leagues so they

853
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 2: could get into the Hall of Fame. And I said,

854
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: to somebody with the Baseball Hall of Fame, I said,

855
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: Buck O'Neil is a Hall of Famer. He was a

856
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: very good player, but contributions to the game. Buck O'Neil

857
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: was the one who was there with eulogies, your career eulogy.

858
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 2: He was telling everybody about these players so they could

859
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 2: get into the Hall of Fame. Those who didn't get

860
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: to see those in the negro leagues. I said, that's

861
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: contributions to the game. Kurt Flood deserves to be in

862
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: the Baseball Hall of Fame. It's in the Cardinals Hall

863
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: of Fame, I believe. But Kurt Flood, he wasn't afraid.

864
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: He took on the system. Yeah, Marvin so.

865
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 7: Was Kurt Flood on the same level as Sonny Vvicaro

866
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 7: to you.

867
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: Uh no, different. Sonny Vaccaro should be in the basketball

868
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. But Kurt Flood what he did that

869
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: was for all of the players to be treated differently.

870
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 2: Sonny just found a loophole and said, hey, I can

871
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: sell shoes and make money for the coaches, make money,

872
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: you know, for the players. You know, that was business.

873
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 2: But he contributed to the game and signing Michael Jordan,

874
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Speaker 2: and signing Kobe Bryant and almost sign Lebron Jay. You know,

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Speaker 2: he was involved in the movers and shakers. But different,

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Speaker 2: but contributions to the Kurt Flood truly contributed to the game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you would not show. Hey, Otani may not

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Speaker 2: have any idea who Kurt Flood is, but he should

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Speaker 2: and I would hope maybe Baseball can rectify that and

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Speaker 2: put him into the Baseball Hall of Fame. And I've

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Speaker 2: gotten on this kick as I get older, and really

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Speaker 2: my time of doing this job is diminishing. But Barry

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Speaker 2: Melrose in the Hockey Hall of Fame, Don Cherry in

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Speaker 2: the Hockey Hall of Fame, Sonny Vaccaro in the Basketball

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, mel kiper in the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame, Kurt Flood in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: To me, these are no brainers. And I don't envy

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Speaker 2: those who vote on the Hall of Fame. I just

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Speaker 2: want to remind you and any of you voters that

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Speaker 2: ever want to talk about why I think this way,

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Speaker 2: or if I can add any kind of backdrop, I'll

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Speaker 2: be more than happy to do it. And I don't

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Speaker 2: have any other interest in it than telling the correct

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Speaker 2: story and doing the right things for these people. But

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Speaker 2: Kurt Flood should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: as a contributor. Maybe you don't put him in there

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Speaker 2: as a player, I understand that, but contributions to the game.

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Speaker 2: And if you're not familiar with Kurt Flood, please google

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Speaker 2: him and understand what he did and at the end

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Speaker 2: of his career, sacrificed his career so players could become

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Speaker 2: free agents. And I remember Andy Messersmith, he was the

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Speaker 2: first free agent in baseball history. Now we take it

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Speaker 2: for granted now it's normal, but it wasn't then major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball. He was Boie Kune was the commissioner. It

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Speaker 2: was Booie Kune v. Kurt Flood, and Kurt Flood eventually

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Speaker 2: won