1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans. This one's 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles and only 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: the Truth lives here twelve Apostles Apostles. I'm George Rice Stir, 4 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: He's Ralph Amston, and this is the PAC twelve Apostles, 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: the podcast by Pack twelve fans, four Pack twelve fans, 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: the college football fans alike, until you know, the PAC 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: twelve is no more and we we then we sell, 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: uh adjust and adapt to just become the best college 9 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: football podcast there is in the world. We already did 10 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: that in the Pack twelve. It's a nice time to 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: do it everywhere else, well pretty so. But you guys, though, 12 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: we uh just finished Week four and now we're heading 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: into Week five, but we kind of wanted to before 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: we even do a review of the week. There is 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: some news in the Pack twelve, and one of them 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: is that PAC twelve officials have absolutely started Pack twelve 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: official ing again, like it's a I mean, it took 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, but we've already seen and this 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: week we saw in the Oregon Washington State game, they 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: messed up the downs and then Washington State ran two 21 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: plays including punting the ball away. Oregon is getting ready 22 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: to come on the field. They're like, oh wait, no, 23 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, we we gotta go review. We actually 24 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: messed up the downs. So the reality is is that 25 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: you have already impacted I know what the rules say, 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: because the Pack twelve put out a statement we got 27 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: this right. We went back and fixed it. No, it didn't. 28 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: Like imagine if somebody got hurt on the play. Imagine 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: if there had been a turnover or if there had 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: been I mean it was a punt like, imagine if 31 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: it had got run run back the scoring play. So 32 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: now you've absolutely screwed the pooch and it's pretty packed. 33 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Twelve is even though the even though the a c 34 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: C already screwed up the pac twell on that field 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: goal against Notre Dame where they said somebody was off 36 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: side and nobody was off sides. Yeah, it's very strange 37 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: also to have the Pack twelve come out and be like, hey, 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: we know this was an issue, um, but then also 39 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: not admit that the d J. Johnson targeting called didn't exist. Um. 40 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: I was like, how was that? They were there? They're like, 41 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 1: well he lowered his head, bro, how are you supposed 42 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: to tackle people. He hit him in the chest, like 43 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: and it wasn't like he was he hit him with this. 44 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: He hit him with his face and like, speaking of 45 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: tackling people, multiple multiple uh USC players tackled. Oh my god, 46 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: the holding that the non holding penalties against Oregon. Dude, 47 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 1: if I was Oregon State fan, i'd been turning over 48 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: tables right now. I mean, he literally tackled people in 49 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: front of the why hat and that's his area. It's 50 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: funny that they didn't mess up very many calls in 51 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: the games that were blowouts, but the close ones where 52 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: every down mattered, you know, there were plenty of issues. Um. 53 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: I believe that the officiating as a whole has still 54 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: been better. And you can't throw in that thing that 55 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: happened to cal against Notre Dame because those were a 56 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: CEC refs and a ref actually got suspended. It would 57 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: be nice if the Pack twelve held officials accountable the 58 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: way that a c C does UM for that level 59 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: of mistake. But it is, it is rearing its head 60 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: and people don't have any patients for it, so you 61 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: can't say, oh, it's been improved, which it has, and 62 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: then you know, because you're holding on to everything that 63 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: happened in the past. Washington State, because of Pack twelve 64 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: officiating pretty much was cost a shot at playing for 65 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: national championship. And and like you gotta, you gotta admit 66 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: that out loud, that's wild. I still to this day 67 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: remember Washington State getting a fifth down against Arizona State, 68 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: and I remember multiple wildest hell calls in that triple 69 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: overtime Oregon wind at Arizona State that all seem to 70 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: go Oregon's way, um and uh, And you know it's 71 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: just there's there's just a litany and list of massive, 72 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: massive errors to the point where they've had to bring 73 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: people in um more consultively tried to address it. Yeah, 74 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: more consultants. I do feel like it's been better, but 75 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: people don't have patience for those type of excuses. Well, 76 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 1: we will see what happens is we get into Pact 77 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: twelve territory, buddy, because we've already seen some random targeting calls, 78 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: and we will see how they adjudicate past interference, because 79 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: we know that past interference is one of those that 80 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: is not called consistently in the Pact twelve compared to 81 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: other conferences. So we shall see UM and you guys, 82 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: make sure that you leave a five star rating wherever 83 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts so we can you know we 84 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: would we would love to read your UM reviews. Now, 85 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: our guys, soul Cat has just been posting reviews each 86 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: week on Twitter, keeps giving us two stars for our content, 87 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: and he just writes it. He doesn't actually go to 88 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: the to the like Apple site and type in his review. 89 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: He just replies on Twitter two stars. Whatever I appreciate. 90 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: If it's gonna be a two star review, definitely keep 91 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: it on social facts. All right. Um. The next thing 92 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: is is there was a dentist Dot article that came 93 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: out and mind you, this is on the heels of 94 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: what we have been hearing. And what seems pretty obvious 95 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: is that there is significant movement in terms of the 96 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: Pack twelve and and the Big ten. Greg flew Gard 97 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: has talked about it. Uh even um and which talked 98 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: about the last podcast. George Clikoff is refuting that, saying 99 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: that U c l A Is actually gonna lose money, 100 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: which doesn't make sense at all, especially if they add 101 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: additional teams. This is trying to be adjudicated out in 102 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: the media. The Big twelve came out and said in 103 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: the in the article that Dennis Dodd put up that 104 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: that if the Big Tip, if those four teams Cow Oregon, US, 105 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: Cow Oregon, Washington, and Stanford all go to the Big ten, 106 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: then yeah, of course the four corner schools there, Yeah, 107 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: we will will scoop them up in the Big twelve. 108 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: They'll they'll, they'll definitely come. Like that was very matter 109 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: of fact. But and I know that the Pac twelve 110 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: and the Big twelve have been posturing at each other, 111 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: but that felt like real asshole move right there, bro, 112 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: Like like that was like I'm trying to make sure 113 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick you while you're down right now. Yeah, 114 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: it was an interesting article from Dennis Dodd because it's 115 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: some of the things it just like he was saying 116 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: as statement of fact, like if the Pack twelve dissolves, 117 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: then Washington State and Oregon State will have a home 118 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: in the Mountain West, which will and and that's the 119 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: first time I've seen that presented, and especially in such 120 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: a matter of fact way. It would be really interesting 121 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: because Jonathan Smith, if Oregon States able to keep him, 122 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if he would want to coach in 123 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: a Group of five conference. Even if that conference would 124 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: be on the come up because of the dissolving that 125 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: would be for him, that would that would be tough 126 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: because he's gonna have options. Yeah, and to him and 127 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: Jake Dickert, though they would immediately become by far the 128 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: highest paid coaches in that conference, because the highest paid 129 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: highest paid coach in the Mountain West. Can you guess 130 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: who it is? You? I bet you won't be able 131 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: to get number one, or number two or number three 132 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: because it's kind of a surprise, all right. So part 133 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: of me thinks that it could be Avalos, but then 134 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, the's three. Oh no, no, Avalos is 135 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: not in the top three. I was thinking of your 136 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: other Oregon coordinator, uh down at unlv in in in Arroyo. 137 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: Marcus Arroyo is the number three in the Okay, Okay, 138 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: so oh um. You would think it could be Jeff 139 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: Tedford at Fresno State. But I'm gonna go Colorado State 140 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: because they just got a brand new head coach and 141 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: San Jose State, no, no, no, no, no, no Nevada. 142 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: So Jane Norvell did get a massive raise to leave 143 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: Nevada to go to Colorado State. If Nevada had the money, 144 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: they would have been able to hold onto Jane Orville. 145 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: But he's making one point six million at Colorado State. 146 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: He's the highest paid coach. Just underneath him is actually 147 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: Craig Bull at Wyoming really is. Yeah, I never would 148 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: have thought that he's the second highest paid coach and 149 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: last year was the highest paid coach in the Mountain West. 150 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: But if you have Jake Dickert, if you have Jake 151 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: Dickert and Jonathan Smith coming in there at two point 152 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: seven in, does it reset the market or at the 153 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: end of those contracts, do they do they become deflated? No? Absolutely, 154 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: because because those two guys are going to be in 155 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: hot demand. So it's either you pay them what they're 156 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: worth or somebody else will. So but if someone was 157 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: to higher a replacement at Oregon State, it would probably 158 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: go back down to whatever with like market ratings. That's 159 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: really interesting. Um so I guess that that would mean 160 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: the that the corner schools would go to the Big twelve. 161 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: But this, this seems to counter some of the stuff 162 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: that you've been hearing in saying that the Big ten 163 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: is not interested in bringing in Oregon or Washington or 164 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: cal or Stanford because they feel like it would dilute 165 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: what they've already done. They got their A L l 166 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: A schools and they're good. That is, There is no 167 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: I can tell you that makes in addition to it 168 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: making no sense, it's not true because they cannot, I mean, 169 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: above anything else, they cannot, under any circumstances, leave USC 170 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: and U C l A out here all by themselves. 171 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: They cannot, like that is untenable, like you need to, 172 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: and it creates travel issues for the East coast team suit. 173 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: So now you you actually need for them to be 174 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: able to stay out on the West coast for like 175 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: a week, two weeks the way, then they can just 176 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: get all their West Coast games in and then you know, 177 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: and then resume their normal travel. Yeah. I know how 178 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 1: important it is to play the l A schools to 179 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: coaches like um like Wilcox and Shaw. I wouldn't I 180 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: would not be shocked if there's internal pressure for them 181 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: to to follow. But if the big Tennis saying it's 182 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: not worth it will delude our product. And because that 183 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: that when he wrote dilute in quotation marks in that 184 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: CBS UH sports dot Com article from Dennis DoD It 185 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: sounds like he was quoting somebody. Well, why would you 186 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: put quotations around diluting the product if you weren't quote, 187 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: because that's something that people have been saying. They're like, oh, 188 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: it'll delute the product. How hou sway, how you already 189 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: have Rutgers in the conference. You you have other teams 190 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: in the conference that are that are not you know, 191 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: like the like you, part of the the build of 192 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: conferences is not just to put by far the best 193 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: teams in there. There's a reason why Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland, 194 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: are Illinois, are even Nebraska and Iowa now are cornerstones 195 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: of your conference or you know, very important to your 196 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: conference because you can't play you know, Michigan, Ohio, State, 197 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: usc U, c l A, Oregon like every single week 198 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: like that would like that would be too much and 199 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: you would be putting yourself not in a position not 200 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: to be in the playoff. Yeah, if I'm the Big ten, 201 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: I think about not just jumping into the Pacific time zone, 202 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: but I also think about the Mountain time zone. If 203 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: you're going to dominate, you might as well you might 204 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: as well go after Utah and Colorado or something like that. 205 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: You know, nobody wants Colorado right now? All right? Um? 206 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: Now gone to week four. Now there were games there 207 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: was instead of having twelve games, Thank the Lord, there 208 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: were six. And the first game up, the first game 209 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: of today, we had U C l A at Colorado. Actually, 210 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: first of all, how are standings right now? I didn't 211 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: even I didn't even tally them. But I can tell 212 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: you that I did not. Well, um, I'll have the 213 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: tally as part of the article that goes up on 214 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: on a fred show dot com. Uh, with Pat twelve, 215 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: you were a few games behind me. I think you're 216 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: gonna be catching up. I can tell you. I can 217 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: tell you the ones I definitely blew it on. You 218 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: were on the other side of So I think you'll 219 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: you'll catch me about a couple of games. If you're 220 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: we're just talking about our picks contest though, um that 221 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: we do on on a frad show where we'd give 222 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: our five locks of the week. Oh my god, if 223 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: you are fading my picks, you are about to retire. 224 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I'm never and I'm I'm like pretty decent, 225 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: not the best, but like usually about fifty five winners 226 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: over the last ten years. And I am dying like 227 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: I've had to borrow fake money to stay in the notes, 228 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: and you you going into in the last week, you 229 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: were ten and five, and I think you had another 230 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: good week. So you're having like you're on an all 231 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: time heater while I am just so Yeah, if you 232 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: want to, if you want to fade my picks and 233 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: roll with George for a week and see if you 234 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: might be able to have a nice Christmas, I highly 235 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: recommend visiting Unafraid show dot com for our for our 236 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: our Friday picks that we put out every week. Al Right, 237 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: you ce l A at Colorado U c l A 238 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: forty Colorado seventeen. I said that if Colorado, I told 239 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: him aboudy, if Colorado scores more than seven, more than 240 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: ten points against u c l A, they should be 241 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: a little bit concerned. But should they No, No, because 242 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: they added a late fourth quarter touchdown, and I was like, okay, 243 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: you know that it still was tin tin points sish, 244 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah it was not, And not at any point did 245 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: it feel like this was a contest. And what was 246 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: extraordinarily patronizing in this broadcast was all of the talk 247 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: about how good Colorado's offense looked comparatively, did they have 248 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: three hundred yards of offense? Yeah, yeah, that's still an 249 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: objectively bad performance. And they were just gushing, the broadcasters, 250 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: just gushing over the fact that Colorado could get a 251 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: first down. Yeah, because they hadn't been able to they have. 252 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: Now they're now onto their third quarterback. So J T. 253 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: Shrout didn't throw a pass obviously, and neither did Rice, 254 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: and they went with mccamm. You keep calling them, you 255 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: keep calling Brendan Lewis, Brendan Rice because Brendon and they 256 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: were both at Colorado. But yeah, Brandon Brendan Lewis. Yeah. 257 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: So it was nice to see them get through an 258 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: entire game with with one quarterback and he didn't look terrible. 259 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: But he was also going up against U c l A, 260 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: whose defense has been I would even say, like Ben, 261 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: don't break. It's just been yeah, like there's issues it 262 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: so but at least U c l A. They came out, 263 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: they dominated the football game. But they go had a 264 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: handsful tomorrow bro, and we'll talk about that against well, 265 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: not not tomorrow, sorry, on Friday against Washington. Do you 266 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: think you look at like if it ends up being 267 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: like this every single week where Dorian Robin Thompson Robinson 268 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: throws for a couple of touchdowns, isn't turning the ball over, 269 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, which has been a couple of years since 270 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: he had that whole like bugaboo um, and then Charbonni 271 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: is getting the end zone two or three times. We 272 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: are we looking at like a couple of Pack twelve 273 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: first team because I know there's a lot of competition 274 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: at the top right now, but I feel like if 275 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: U c l A's offense, even if their defense isn't 276 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: doing the job, if they keep going this way, it's 277 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: gonna be really like someone's gonna best quarterback in the 278 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: Pac twelve so far this year has been I would 279 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: say Dorian Thompson Robinson, even though over Michael Panos Oh no, no, 280 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Oh jeez, the whole Lord, I forgot about 281 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: Michael Pennock. Sorry, Michael Pennocks is number one right now, 282 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: and then Dorian Thompson Robinson after after that, I wouldn't 283 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: even say Caleb Caleb Williams. I'd say he's like third 284 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah, yeah, I mean he's right around 285 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: bow Nixon and um and uh and my and my 286 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: man out in Utah. Yeah, I think the only way 287 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: for u c l A, even if, even if they 288 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: have monster, monster seasons on the the only way is 289 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: that they they gotta beat some of those teams, yes 290 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: that are that are ahead of them. That's the only 291 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: way because I I think no one's gonna care about 292 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: the stats. Nobody cares about u c l A unless 293 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: they go out and they actually beat a team with 294 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 1: a with a winning record, which they did not do 295 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: last year outside of maybe Arizona State. So um, yeah, 296 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna be really interesting because they're they're 297 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: shaping up to have a couple of really monster years, 298 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: especially Charbonnet, and I have a feeling that with that, 299 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: people will just be attracted to the flashiness and the 300 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: new kids on the block and stuff like that, and 301 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: you might see a bunch of people get snubbed. But 302 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: if I think if they win, I think that takes 303 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: care of itself. Yep. Fox Sports Radio has the best 304 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 305 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the 306 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 307 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: Um Now onto the next game, Oregon at Washington State. 308 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: This was a game that Washington State fans are like, 309 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't believe we lost this game. 310 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: And now I'm not saying this as an Oregon fan. 311 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying this as a football person. Is that Washington 312 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: State in this game was relying on too much trickeration, 313 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: like like that they were able to move the ball 314 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: based upon broken plays and you know, like fake tossing 315 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: the ball up, quarterback tossing the ball up to hisself, 316 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: like they were doing so much tricky stuff and it 317 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: came back in the in the end, like to bite 318 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: them in the ass on that on that interception because 319 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: they went to that well of that little inside screen 320 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: which nobody really does. Like it was a good play, 321 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: but then you went to it one too many times. 322 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: And then when you put better athletes on, like that's 323 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: where coaching sometimes, like players who are better can overcome coaching. 324 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: That's that's what happened in u c l A. Or 325 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: against State, is that there came a point where U 326 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: c l A's players, because Oregon State couldn't extend the 327 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: lead far enough, there came a point where there their 328 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: players were just better, and then they got a couple 329 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: for for tuitous non holding penalties and and there's the 330 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: and there's the game. I left this game looking at 331 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: cam Ward as he he had three seventy five yards 332 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: and Washington UH state had four hundred uh sixteen total yards. 333 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: I left this game not impressed with camera right cam 334 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: Ward as a passer, but I came away impressed with 335 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: him as a playmaker, because he throws the ball when 336 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: when he has to throw the ball on time, like 337 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: he he will throw the ball on time your slants, 338 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: like those quick plays. But when he has to sit 339 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: back and watch the coverage and all that developed, he 340 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: doesn't do well. Let that and he just waits and 341 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: runs around until he finds something else open, until he 342 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: finds an easy throw throw open. And then on the 343 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: Oregon side, uh this was both. This was like what 344 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: we've seen from the last three weeks of bow knicks 345 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: is nothing. What we saw of him in Auburn like 346 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: this is. He looks good, he looks mature, he looks 347 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: like he's gotten rid of some of the the bad plays. 348 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: And people will point to that pick, but the ball 349 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: got tipped and the ball kind of hung up in 350 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: the air for the line of the the the linebacker 351 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: to a pick. I think Oregon's running back stable is 352 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: the best it's been in a long time since going 353 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: back to like La Michael James, Kenyan Barter and UM 354 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: and Black and Black Mamba de Anthony Thomas. So they listened. 355 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: The recruiting that was done is paying off, Yes and 356 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: I and I. To me, the difference in this game, 357 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: UM in Washington State has to be kicking themselves because 358 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: they really definitely feel like they should have won. UM 359 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: and the the Brian Ward versus Kenny Dillingham battle, you know, 360 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: it looked one sided for three quarters but then the 361 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: bottom fell out. Uh but but here, But you're the difference. 362 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: But that's the thing is that is that it wasn't 363 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: because Oregon finished with like six fifty yards of total offense. 364 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: The is that in the first half they scored nine points. 365 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: They scored on every single drive except for the one 366 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: with the pick and then the one like they were 367 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: running up and down the field. It was they ended 368 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: up kicking field goal. So Oregon has to fix their 369 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: red zone offense. But they were marching up and down 370 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: the field all all day like they couldn't be stopped. Right, 371 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: And to me, the difference in this game is Oregon 372 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: has twenty four non quarterback carries at five point seven 373 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: yards of carry. That's that's a perfect like, that's perfect. Meanwhile, 374 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: Washington State has fifteen non quarterback carries for two point 375 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: three yards of carry. And and cam Ward got hit 376 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: seven times. He got hit seven times, didn't get sacked 377 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: a lot, but they were putting hands on him, they 378 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: were putting a body on him. And I think that 379 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: that over time can can rally you. I love the 380 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: way came Ward looked in this game as a playmaker. 381 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: I think Washington State it's fair to say that Washington 382 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: State might be a little bit better than both you 383 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: and I thought uh they would be. But the resolve 384 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: that Oregon showed to to come back um in this game, 385 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: and the fund that bone Nix is having. Because in 386 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: the SEC, everything's happening through a really tight window. You 387 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: have to be perfect, give room to improvise, you have 388 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: room to make mistakes. In the Pac twelve. That's what 389 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: makes Pack twelve football beautiful. It's not like you know, 390 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: but big SEC football feels a lot like this Aaron 391 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: Judge home run chase, where like there's so much pressure 392 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: on every bat to like finally get to sixty one. Right, 393 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: every offensive possession is like hold your breath, can we 394 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: complete one pass? And that that did not suit bo 395 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: Nick's well. When things are more opened up and you 396 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: surrounded him with real speedy athletes, not everything has to 397 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: be super on target all the time. You get five 398 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: receivers on the field, there's windows and holes opening in 399 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: different places. He seems to be, uh showing why he 400 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: was given a five star rating coming out of high school. 401 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: Um and uh and yeah, I mean, and he's got 402 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: I think another year of eligibility after this, so it 403 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: should be really interesting to see what happens from here. 404 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: But eleven tackles for a loss from Oregon. Seven quarterback hits. 405 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: The defense is active. They just gotta they gotta find 406 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: a way to not give up the big play. Yeah 407 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: oh oh facts and um yeah, and like so I 408 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: am looking at this Oregon team and I'm like, okay, okay, 409 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: it's stilly, very promising. Um Arizona thirty one cal forty nine. 410 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: I did not get this game right for sure. Um 411 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: Cow won by eighteen points. First of all, Cow score 412 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: forty nine points, which is bravo forty nine points for Cow. 413 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: That is a an absolute win. They Jaden ran for 414 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: two seventy four all by himself, fourteen yards to carry insanity. Yes, yes, 415 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: those are high school numbers. Three touchdowns they ran for 416 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: three fifty four yards, passed for another totive, not even 417 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: sure if they turned the ball over. This was Oh yeah, 418 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: cow did not turn the ball over. And on the 419 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: other side, Jaden Dolora, he's obviously a good quarterback, but 420 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: sometimes he tries to four are things that don't need 421 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: to be forced. And I think that that's the next 422 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: level of his maturation, is for him to be able 423 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: to just like you know, get to the next play, 424 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: even when it's a situation to where you feel like 425 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: your team is losing the momentum. He's got to still 426 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: find a way to not turn the ball over. Because 427 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: this team's defense, like um Arizona's entire setup is better, 428 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: Their wide receivers are better, their their defense is better, 429 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: their quarterback position is better. Like they are a competent 430 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: football team. Now like they're not a good football team, 431 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: but they are competent and if they continue to move 432 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 1: in this direction, they are headed for some good things. 433 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: But what did you think about cal who is uh 434 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: who is clearly having a better season than what we've 435 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: seen from them in the recent past, because they are 436 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: sitting at three and one right now. I mean, think 437 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: about it. We we have one too, three, four, five, six, seven, 438 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: eight teams in the Pac twelve that have three and 439 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: one or four and oh records, and then a ninth 440 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: team that's two and two. So well, they have three 441 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: teams with losing records at the through through four games, 442 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: idn't I can't remember the last time we saw that. 443 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: I think the Pac twelve, to be honest, I think 444 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: they have six really good teams. I don't know if 445 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: I have an elite team yet, um, but they have 446 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: six really good teams, three very feisty teams, and three 447 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: teams that are not good. And and that's a really 448 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: great place to be as a conference. And I don't 449 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: want to sound like Larry Scott that year that you know, 450 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: people are like, hey, what are you gonna do about 451 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve going two and seven in bowl games? 452 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: And he was like, it's the journey that matters. It's not, 453 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: but it's it's definitely better to have. Like you, you 454 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: also want them to perform at the end of the season. 455 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: But that year, the teams didn't look as good as 456 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: they look this year. And um, I I'm proud of 457 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: Cal for sticking with what was working and not trying 458 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: to get to I think they just kind of stuck 459 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: with their game plan because Jack Plummer will really struggle 460 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: in the first half and he finished the game with 461 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: pretty respectable stat line. They ran the ball down Arizona's throat, 462 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: which in the last two weeks it's over six hundred 463 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: yards rushing the Arizona has given up to a combination 464 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: of Cal and North Dakota State. That's gonna be a 465 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: huge issue for them moving forward. It's also why I 466 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: thought that they wouldn't be a bowl team. They are 467 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: not on the offensive and defensive line. They are not 468 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: even at Power five level yet as far as as 469 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: far as the skill that they have in the depth 470 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 1: and so um, they have to depend so much on 471 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: the skill position players. Um and that's just not a 472 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: good recipe for success against a team like Cal. Uh. 473 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: I will say, Jaden Delora is really great when he's 474 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: in the rhythm of the game, but when it turns 475 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: to we have to stop running the ball because we're 476 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: playing catch up. That's when you have him on the ropes. 477 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: It's weird. It's almost like if you took Jaden Delora 478 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: and Jaden Daniels, you'd have the perfect quarter because Jane 479 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: Daniel seems to be absolute dukie in the rhythm of 480 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: the game, but when it comes when it comes time 481 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: to like, oh everything is on his you know, skinny shoulders, 482 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: then he's superman um and Jade Delora seems to be 483 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: the exact opposite. He's an absolute god. When it's you're 484 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: just running through your play and every turns in the 485 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: chance Chance Nolan, when it uh poor Jiance Nolan speaking 486 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: of this game, well, Chance Nolan USC seventeen Oregon State fourteen. 487 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: This is a game that Oregon State has to feel 488 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: like they let get away. We also feel bad about 489 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: this game. Who what person on planet Earth would have 490 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: called for a rock fight? I thought it could happen 491 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: because I knew Oregon State could not win a shootout. 492 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: They can't win a shootout because they would have to 493 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: throw the ball too much. I mean, like a shootout 494 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: if they were breaking off big run all over the 495 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: place and everything. But um, Oregon State ran the ball 496 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: very well. Their secondary was played phenomenal, and they were 497 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: in USC's backfield. The problem was they couldn't get anything 498 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: going on offense, and then as soon as Chance Nolan 499 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: had to throw the ball in crucial situation situations and 500 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: then the announcers jinks them. On the first pick, he said, man, 501 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: this dude hasn't thrown a pick, even though he's been 502 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: under a little bit of pressure. As he's saying that 503 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: he's getting pressure, he throws it right over the middle 504 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: to a six ft six middle linebacker, which is which 505 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: they were gushing over him all the game. We've never 506 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: seen a six six middle linebacker before last year. Yeah, 507 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: it's very frustrating to watch USC play because you're if 508 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: you're again, I'm a Solomon bird at Wyoming fan and 509 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: then obviously followed Eric Gentry in his time of Arizona State, 510 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: and USC got ten points off the turnovers, ten points 511 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: off the turnovers, all four picks, four picks, they got 512 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: ten points. So this is good on Oregon State. But 513 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: they have to feel like I mean, and really, it's 514 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: probably Chance Nolan that probably is going to bear a 515 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: lot of this this weight because he threw four four 516 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: picks like they weren't. They didn't go off of somebody's 517 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: hands and then fall into the defender. No, he threw 518 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: it to the defender. Yeah, so you know. So this 519 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: is a game that Oregon State they were they felt 520 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: slighted because of the TV stuff. This was a game 521 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: that they had the opportunity to win. This this was 522 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: a set up. Just like the Miami Dolphins playing the Bills. 523 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: This was a set up. The Bills were a better team, 524 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: still are a better team, but like they had dudes 525 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: out there cramping and everything else in the heat, and 526 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: they got in the friendly confines of of of Salad 527 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: Bowl Stadium, Research Stadium, and they had a chance and 528 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: they blew it. That's tough right there. But for usc 529 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: the thing I'll say about CAYLEB Williams because he was 530 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: six team for thirty six in in the game, which 531 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: is not good. He was under he does that. He's cool, 532 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: calm and collected, and he manages the game really well. 533 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: So I will give Lincoln Riley a lot of credit 534 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: because his quarterbacks managed the game very well. And that's 535 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: what Caleb Williams did. He didn't turn the ball over 536 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: because they couldn't afford to turn over. If they had 537 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: turned turned the ball over, it would have been a burrito, 538 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: like like Oregon State, like that fumble that happened right 539 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: at the one yard line. If they don't recover that, 540 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: Oregon State wins that game. Yeah, I would say that 541 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley in this game, I think the uh Lincoln 542 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: Riley that a lot of Oklahoma ends recognized that there 543 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: are just some games when he loses the plot a 544 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: little bit. Sometimes you have to take what they're giving you. 545 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: And for Cayleb Williams to go sixteen of thirty six 546 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: struggling against some of those long defensive backs that Oregon 547 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,479 Speaker 1: State has, which is the thing they're going to run 548 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: into against their organs against Arizona State this week, again, 549 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: by the way, is just big physical defensive backs. A 550 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: much less talented deem, but big physical defensive backs. When 551 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: when that's not working for you, but Travis Dye is 552 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: able to eat up some yards on the ground, Sometimes 553 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: you just have to take what they're giving you. And 554 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: and you you get so convinced that your way of 555 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: doing things is the right way to do things that 556 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: you stick with something that is very obviously not working. 557 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: And if it wasn't and honestly, like if it wasn't 558 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: for the resolve of Cayleb Williams on that last drive. 559 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: Then we're talking about Oregon State with back to back 560 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: wins um over. You see, Uh, the environment that they 561 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: played this game in was bizarre. I've never really seen 562 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: anything like that outside a half done stadium. Yeah. Yeah, 563 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: there's some high school stadiums where I cover games where 564 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: both teams sit on one side, um and and and 565 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: both sets of fans, and it kind of had that field. 566 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: They had both, you know, both fans, and it was 567 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: it was still loud, it was I don't know, it 568 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: was just a really interesting environment um for a game 569 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: to be played. And uh and and Oregon State has 570 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: a real home field advantage. But I don't feel like 571 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: they should feel good about themselves coming out this. They 572 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: really uh failed to take advantage of the fact that 573 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,959 Speaker 1: Southern California is vulnerable in the run game. And they 574 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: failed to take advantage of the fact that, Uh, Lincoln 575 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: Riley did his one or two time a year thing 576 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: where he just couldn't coach his way out of a 577 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: paper bag. He's a fantastic, incredible coach, but sometimes he 578 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: just gets a little stubborn and and no matter how 579 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: ugly it is like he he has to be bailed 580 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: out by the level of talent that he put on 581 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: the field, and this USC team is way too talented 582 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: to be winning games seventeen. Yeah, they are going to 583 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: run into another issue at Utah. U c l A 584 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: like teams that can be physical and run the run 585 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: the ball. I think they'll have less trouble with u 586 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: c l A because U c l A is secondary. 587 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: Does not look like it's up to snuff at this point. 588 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: Um Utah thirty four, Arizona State thirteen. This was this 589 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: game went kind of how I thought it was going 590 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: to go. I mean at the going into the first quarter. 591 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: I mean in the fourth quarter it was thirty one 592 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: to six, like it was. It was. It was out 593 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: of hand, and Arizona State does not look good, like 594 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: I don't even know. They look short on talent. They 595 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: look deflated from her and being fired. It's like the 596 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: allegations and then all of this has just worn on 597 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: the entire team. They need to hit the reset button. 598 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: I don't even know if they can jump up and 599 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: bite somebody this year because they just don't look good. 600 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: Emery Jones is standing back there, just standing there. I 601 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: mean yep. And I remember we talked about that after 602 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: the n AU game and I was like, he just 603 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: kind of stands in Well a few games later, that's 604 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: a huge problem. It's not courage, it's just that I 605 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: don't think he knows what to do in the in 606 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: the pocket. He really took some yeah, right to the 607 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: chin in this game because he he doesn't do much 608 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: to avoid the rush. For his athletic as he is, 609 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: he just kind of stands on the train tracks. Yep. 610 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: And this was a game that was terrible for Utah, 611 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: not because of the result, but because they lost Brent Keithy. Yeah, yeah, 612 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: that was That was tight end and their best receiving 613 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: weapon period, Like that is going to be a blow. 614 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: And he was murdering Arizona State up to that point. 615 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: He had four catches for sixty six yards and two touchdowns. 616 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: And I think he went no, no, no, no, no, 617 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: no no. That was that was yeah, you're you're right, 618 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: my bad. Yeah. So that so they're left with Dalton 619 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: kincaid Um. They have had receiver step up. Salmoninis has 620 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: been on campus for a long time. He's good as 621 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: far as a blocker, but he's starting to catch some 622 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: passes and then de von vleet Is is becoming their 623 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: go to receiver. I think they're gonna be fine. Cam 624 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: Rising made a couple of throws in this game that 625 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: we're like wow, Like over the you know, outstretched arm 626 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: of of of a corner UM that that you thought 627 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: was gonna be intercepted and it goes for a touchdown. UM. 628 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: The throw he made on the flea flicker to start 629 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: the game, UM for the first touchdown to Dalton kinkcaid 630 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: Utah just looks really good. I thought, I'm gonna disagree 631 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: with you. I thought Arizona State looked very energetic. I 632 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: just didn't think it mattered. They were hitting and flying 633 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: to the ball on defense, and it just it didn't 634 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: they It wasn't a well coached game. They weren't always 635 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: in the right position. I'm really questioning whether or not 636 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 1: uh Donnie Henderson should be the defensive coordinator through the 637 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: end of the season, even in on an interim basis, 638 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: when you have a guy like Marvin Lewis who might 639 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: be able to step in, especially if you're not gonna 640 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: have to recruit because the whole staff is inter him. 641 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: But the defense was at a position but they played 642 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: with a lot of energy and not another one. Yep. 643 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: And the thing that confused me in this game is 644 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: abandoning the running game altogether. When Xavian Valada came in 645 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: with uh three straight hundred yard rushing games, he got 646 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: the ball eight times, Daniel nott A got it once, 647 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: and Emery Jones just got destroyed all game long. It 648 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: was a rough one to watch. I don't think this 649 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: next week is gonna be any better, as you've just 650 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: gotta They gotta find some way to get through the 651 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,479 Speaker 1: next three games. Meanwhile, on the other side, Utah looks 652 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: like the bully in the conference that we thought that 653 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: they would be. Um and and this is with they 654 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: won thirty thirteen with Tavian Thomas missing the entire first 655 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: half for supposedly disciplinary reasons. So oh, and speaking of 656 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: disciplinary reasons, Chris Cartman, your man UM just tweeted out 657 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: that one of a s U starters against Utah showed 658 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: up a few minutes late to practice and he was 659 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: told to leave. He then left. We used to see 660 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,720 Speaker 1: players show up late without the same consequences. Another Iguano difference. 661 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: He left before the game and didn't play or no, no, no, no, 662 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: no practice today. Interesting and he and he was told 663 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: to just leave practice altogether. Well all right, Uh hopefully 664 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: it was not the starting quarterback. Fox Sports Radio has 665 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all 666 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and 667 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: within the I Heart Radio app search f s R 668 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: to listen live. Stanford at Washington, Stanford. This is not 669 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: a good football team right now. They're not. God, they 670 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: got a good quarterback though. Uh no, I'm not a 671 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: think so, I am not I am not being on 672 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: Tanner McKie at all. Like, yes, you can even make 673 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: some throws. He's a statue dude. I'm out on statue quarterbacks. 674 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: There are a bunch of people who can stand back 675 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: there and and sling slinging around. But the problem is, 676 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 1: as soon as there's any little bit of pressure, he's 677 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: gotta he's got to die in the pocket. Like he 678 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: can't extend any play, well, very few plays, I should say. 679 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: I just and that a damn good ball. He favorite 680 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: ball in the conference. He does throw a nice ball, dude. 681 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be tough to win with a orderback 682 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: like that. And David Shaw has to find somebody who 683 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: can be a good athlete like Andrew luck was. He 684 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: could stay back there and slink it, but he could 685 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: also get out on the two tens. Soak at Hogan. 686 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: He has at least he has the type at least 687 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: when at least when Tanner McKee takes a hit, you're expecting, um, 688 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: you're expecting it to happen. And he was sacked eight times, 689 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: by the way, That's what I'm saying, dude. And he 690 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: was hit and this is this is gonna be the 691 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: funniest stat for you. He was hit on no like, 692 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: no place where he was actually able to get rid 693 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: of the ball. Never happened, not once. Usually somebody who's 694 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 1: under pressure all day, they get sacked four or five times. 695 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: They're also hit another tent he did not. Yes, yes, 696 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: if this game exactly, that's exactly my point. I'm with 697 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: you there. Yeah. And now they've lost myth. They're running 698 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: back for the year with an undisclused closed injury. That 699 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: hurts because he's dynamic. He's definitely dynamic. He's I think 700 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: their most important player on offense of the of all 701 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: the skilled position players. Um Michael Wilson had a huge 702 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: game six for one, seventy six and two touchdowns. But 703 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: now let's talk about them dogs. Boy, them dogs. Kalen 704 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: Debor has them dogs Champion Bro, they champion at the 705 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: bit and it is and it is so enjoyable to 706 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: watch Washington play football right now. This is a I'm 707 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: not sure how good this football team is yet, but 708 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: they are explosive on offense, like they are a nightmare 709 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: on offense. Roman Douzy A he's running down the field 710 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: just by people. Giles is making plays. Jalen McMillan, they have. 711 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: This is an exactly what I expected out of Kalin 712 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 1: Debor when he got Michael pennockx Jr. This is exactly 713 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: I mean. He looks like Jake Haynerd did at Fresno State. 714 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: He looks like he took what he was doing at 715 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: Fresno State, put purple jerseys on them and and and 716 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: slit their slider ratings up, like their their talent ratings up. 717 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: And it's like, what did you expect? Like, I don't 718 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 1: think that Washington is going to win when the conference, 719 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: but their fans should be energized, they should be excited 720 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: about the future. I am you and I said that 721 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: we expected them to be at least six and two, 722 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: maybe seven and one going into the Oregon game. So 723 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by the success. I am surprised by 724 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: the how, Yes, because but that Michigan State when doesn't 725 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: look quite as good right right now, after they got 726 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: and my and my son was at that game and 727 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: in in the East landing, he was like, Dad, they 728 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: got absolutely just demolished or read options, He was like, 729 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 1: it was And I thought that Washington looks looks fast, 730 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: they look explosive. Yeah, they got big, big, physical corners. 731 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: They have two edge rushers that might be among the 732 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,439 Speaker 1: top five edge rushers in the conference in Braylan Trice 733 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: and and ZTF is is back. He looks completely healthy. 734 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: I thought we weren't going to get him back to 735 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 1: the middle of the season. So can you So are 736 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: you and everybody listening, are you surprised at my at 737 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: my energy surrounding Washington. No? No, no, not at all, 738 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: because you have always, even even in your home rhysm, 739 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 1: you have always believed that it's better for like an 740 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: undefeated Oregon to take on an underfeld. Yes, and then 741 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 1: Shang sung style absorbed their soul like that that's your 742 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: that's been your mindset from the from from the joke. 743 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: I don't want them to lose every game, No no, no, 744 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: no no, I won't watching to win every freaking game 745 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: until they play Oregon and then and have their fans 746 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:16,720 Speaker 1: all excited and hyped up, and then somewhere you weren't 747 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: without enjoyment in their struggles. No, no, of course, yeah, 748 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it, like this is definitely uh better for 749 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: you when when you and because it sets up games, 750 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: it sets up like the games. It's very rare. The 751 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: Arizona and Arizona State are good at the same time. 752 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: But I do, I do enjoy that. That does make 753 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: it more fun. Is this sacrilegious? Because I was I 754 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: was watching Michael Panics throw and I was like, this 755 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: spiral really reminds me of something because, like you said, 756 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't have the most zip, but he could fit 757 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: it in the shoe box and then it hit me 758 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. And I even tweeted it from the 759 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: Pack twelve Apostles account. His deep ball reminds me of 760 00:44:55,239 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 1: Joey Harrington and you shot putty thing like it's because 761 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: Joey didn't have the strongest arm in the whole world either. 762 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: But but Joey was give like, yeah, we're the We're 763 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: The ball would just perfectly fit in your hands because 764 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: it had the angle on the way down. The spin 765 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: was a little bit slower, so you could like see 766 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 1: the laces rotate like it was an NFL film slow mode, 767 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: and he just rainbows in And I don't know, like 768 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: how Oregon fans feel about comparing a Washington quarterback to 769 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: an Oregon quarterback. But and I'm not saying that he's 770 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,959 Speaker 1: gonna be a top pick in the NFL draft anything. 771 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that when he when he rainbows that 772 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 1: ball down the side, like I'm like, I've seen this 773 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 1: before and it really feels like Joe Arranton to me, Yeah, 774 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: that they are going to be a problem for everybody 775 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: in the conference if uh, yeah, they are going to 776 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: be an absolute problem. And when you look at the 777 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: the their upcoming schedule, which we will talk about next 778 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: week in just a minute, but they got u c 779 00:45:54,960 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: l A Arizona State, Arizona cal dude um usc is 780 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: lucky if they don't play him in in the regular set. Ye, 781 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: it works out for both of them. Really, Yeah, it 782 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: definitely does, all right, UM, now onto our power rankings, 783 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 1: because we have neglected to do those the last couple 784 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,720 Speaker 1: of weeks. But part part of it is because there wasn't, 785 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: like you you need more information transfer portal Era had 786 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 1: no idea who these teams were exactly. So, UM, we'll 787 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: go twelve through seven and then uh six through one. 788 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: I'll go first. I have Colorado at twelve, Arizona State 789 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: at eleven, Stanford at ten, Arizona at nine, Call at eight, 790 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: Washington State at seven, Oregon State. Okay, sorry, we you 791 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: and I only have one difference, um, and that is 792 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 1: at seven where you said you had Washington State. Yeah, 793 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,919 Speaker 1: I have U C l A. Despite being undefeated, they've 794 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: shown me nothing that says that they can compete on 795 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: the level of the teams I have above them. Other 796 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: than eight through twelve are the exact same. And if 797 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 1: there could be a thirteen spot to put Colorado in, okay, 798 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: San Diego State or Colorado right now, San Diego State Colorado, 799 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't. Colorado State is the only team I think 800 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: Colorado could beat. They are atrocious, dude. Their offense is bad, 801 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: their defense is bad. This is entirely Carl Durrell's fault. 802 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: When he hired the offensive coordinator that got fired at 803 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: Minnesota on one of the worst offenses in the in 804 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 1: the country. I said at that point in time, that 805 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: was gonna be the death nail for for him at Colorado, 806 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: and it is. He is. There's no way to recover 807 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: for I mean, he would, I mean, I guess there is. 808 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: He could go eight no the next eight games, but 809 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: there's no chance of that happening. Yeah, if you're Colorado, 810 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: you have to really seriously consider trying to get jet 811 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 1: Fish away from Arizona or Lansley and pulled away from 812 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: Kansas because you need somebody with a proven record of 813 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 1: taking the worst team in the country and making If 814 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,840 Speaker 1: you're Lance Leopold, you ain't leaving Kansas. They will know, 815 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,240 Speaker 1: they will pay you. They will pay you because Kansas 816 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: being undefeated right now is the most shocking thing. Yeah, 817 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: but that but do you understand what I'm saying, Like, 818 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: like Colorado, Colorado should genuinely consider dropping a bag on 819 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: getting jet Fish out of Arizona just because there's a 820 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: proven track record of taking the worst team in the 821 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: country and making them competitive. Ye all right, um uh 822 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: my number six Oregon State number five U c l 823 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:58,760 Speaker 1: A number four, Utah number three, Oregon number two, USC 824 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: and number one Yse too. Okay, uh, my number six 825 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 1: is Oregon State very strong. Six. This is where the 826 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: big difference between you and me is. I have Washington 827 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 1: State at five. Uh still going to Wisconsin winning is 828 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: big in my head. USC at four, Oregon at three, 829 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: Washington at two, in Utah at one. Okay, okay, I 830 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 1: mean potato tomato, tomato tomato kind of, kind of, I 831 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,320 Speaker 1: mean Washington over Oregon. I mean, I feel like I 832 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: feel like Washington hasn't shown me any holes yet. And 833 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: I can't completely throw out the Georgia result nor the 834 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: fact that they had to come back against against um Wazoo, 835 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 1: who you have as the seventh best team. Well, um, 836 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: so that that that puts Oregon at three ft. But 837 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: I also think that Washington State might beat Oregon State. 838 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,439 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because the worst thing about 839 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 1: Washington State is their past d and the worst thing 840 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: about Oregon Stay did their past offense. So I think 841 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: that those teams are really close. And but I do 842 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: honor your point about U c l A, and I 843 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 1: think that this game against Washington on Friday is going 844 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: to be an absolute You know, Jim, how many of 845 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: these how many of these air raid coaches always promise 846 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: us that they've got a run element and when push 847 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 1: comes to shove and completely abandoned it against Oregon completely 848 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 1: throughout the window. Yeah, they have no intention on running 849 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: because the air raid you cannot run. You cannot run 850 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 1: in the air raid. But but Lincoln Riley, he doesn't 851 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 1: run the air ray. He runs a vert like he 852 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: runs the power spread. His offense is built in running 853 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: the football, just just like Chip Kelly's was at Oregon. 854 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: Like people thought because they were thrown for so many 855 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: yards that it was built on the past. No, it's 856 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: built on the run. And if you build it on 857 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,240 Speaker 1: the run, then you will then you can have some success. 858 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 1: All right? This week though, Washington at u c l A. 859 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: That game is on Friday. Hate Friday night games. Weird 860 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 1: results happen. So you know what that means for Washington? 861 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 1: Down goes the Historically that would say down goes the Huskies. Um, 862 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 1: what is the line on this game? Getting my lines 863 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,280 Speaker 1: pulled up now? Um, I've been just stopped paying attention 864 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: to the lines, knowing that I'm just gonna get the 865 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: correct no matter what. All right. I so it's weird 866 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 1: because this feels like a different year in the Pac twelve, 867 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 1: and ordinarily we we would get a weird result from 868 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: these games. I'm not gonna do that. I think that 869 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 1: Washington actually wins the game, and uh, we will see 870 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: about this spread though it is Washington minus two and 871 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: a half on the road, believe it or not. Washington 872 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,040 Speaker 1: minus two and a half on the road, that's to 873 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 1: leave it. So I'm gonna take what Washington because I 874 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 1: think that they win to win the football game. But 875 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: this game is gonna tell us about a lot about 876 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 1: u c l A. Because they're they're beginning a season. 877 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 1: Schedule was absolutely atrocious. It was atrocious, and we will 878 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: see how many people show up to the Rose Bowl 879 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: on a Friday night in a big game against a 880 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: ranked team, two undefeated teams playing this is the game 881 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: that fans should show up at. I agree, I you. 882 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 1: I would hope that they would seven thirty at night 883 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: in the Rose Bowl, no excuses, Um we will, I 884 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 1: guarantee you. For the second time in his college football career, 885 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: start to hear the H word. If Michael Pannox Jr. 886 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: Has another fifth consecutive th yard passing games, which, by 887 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 1: the way, I wanted to bring up the Arizona State 888 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 1: has now gone twenty three straight games without a three 889 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: hundred yard pass or the last one happened against your 890 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: Oregon Ducks to keep them out of the college football playoffs. Yep, 891 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: and they may have had the playbook. So you know, 892 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 1: all right, who do you have in the game? I 893 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 1: like Washington, uh U c l A just hasn't shown me. Um, 894 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 1: they can't afford the slow start they will get. They 895 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: will getting, yes, correct, if they have a slow start, 896 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: that's right, and they started slow and pretty much every game. 897 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: I think this game could come down to a field 898 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,879 Speaker 1: goal if if U c l A comes out hot. Um, 899 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 1: But if they don't, I think Washington can put the 900 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: foot on the throat, you know, with with with the 901 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,319 Speaker 1: athleticism of these edge rushers. Dorian Thompson Robinson is really 902 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 1: going to have to put this game on his shoulders 903 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,359 Speaker 1: and get out and run. And that's where I think 904 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 1: that U. C l A could hang in. So I'm 905 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,879 Speaker 1: not a sold on Washington minus two and a half, 906 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna take them. Yeah, I think that the 907 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 1: chances are better that Washington State can blow them out. 908 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that Washington can blow them out, then then 909 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 1: U c l A blow blow them out. I don't 910 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 1: even think that that's an option. Yeah, and in a 911 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,839 Speaker 1: close game, I still probably Trustwashing a little bit better 912 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 1: because you said they started slow. Alright, Oregon State at Utah? 913 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,359 Speaker 1: What is the line on this game on pact Network? Yeah, 914 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 1: another another Pactal Network game that should probably have a 915 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: national audience. Utah is favored by ten and a half. 916 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,359 Speaker 1: Give me, give me the utes, give me the utes. 917 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they chance the chance Nolan is going to 918 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: be forced to throw the football. But if Oregon State 919 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 1: can stop Utah's run, then that ten and a half 920 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,839 Speaker 1: is not is not happening. What if they can, if 921 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: they can, if if Oregon if sorry, if you talk 922 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: jumps out a little bit like fourteen oh you know, 923 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 1: ten three, and then it goes to seventeen three. Yeah, this, this, 924 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 1: this game is gonna that that they're gonna end up 925 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 1: getting choked out. So I'm gonna go with Utah. Okay, 926 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Oregon State. I just I think 927 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a slight adjustment with no Brant Keithy 928 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,799 Speaker 1: and um, and so at ten point win makes sense 929 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: to me. But anything over ten I'm not I'm not 930 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 1: a hcent sure that I'm willing to go with that. 931 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: So I'll take Oregon State and the ten points. Alright, 932 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: Cal at Washington State, Cal at Washington State. I want 933 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 1: to let you guess on this one. See how close 934 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,959 Speaker 1: you get to it. Okay, I think Washington State should 935 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 1: be favored by three points. It's four, so that they're 936 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 1: almost saying this one is a pick them definitely overvaluing, 937 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,240 Speaker 1: probably of what Cal did against Arizona. But this feels 938 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 1: like the biggest trap line of the weekend because if 939 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,920 Speaker 1: Cal comes out with that same commitment to running with 940 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,760 Speaker 1: Jaden Ott, then they could muddy this up and possibly 941 00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: keep it close. Yeah, Um, I will take Washington State. 942 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 1: I will go with you on Washington State minus four, 943 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 1: and again I do not feel great about it. Um. 944 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 1: But this also could be the This also could be Um, 945 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 1: we don't know much about this Washington State coaching staff. 946 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 1: And this could also be the game where the bottom 947 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: falls out, where where that little bit of adversity against 948 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 1: Oregon causes you know, a bunch of it where they 949 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 1: get beat twice from one close loss. Yeah, and and 950 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: Cal is not that type of team, like they don't. 951 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,960 Speaker 1: They kind of had their head on their shoulders no 952 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 1: matter who they're they're going up against, and they are 953 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 1: what they are. So I will say Washington State, but 954 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 1: I do not feel good about it. Yeah, thatree al right? 955 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:58,439 Speaker 1: Colorado at Arizona, it is minus seventeen and a half. 956 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 1: I can't believe it's minus thirty seven and a half. 957 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 1: One of these teams can score. One of these teams 958 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: cannot score. Yeah. Do you think Colorado has the patients 959 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 1: to try to exploit holes in Arizona's run defense or 960 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,440 Speaker 1: do you think they're so bad offensively that Arizona is 961 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 1: going to be able to get get healthy against them 962 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,440 Speaker 1: and figure out some of their flaws. I think that 963 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 1: Arizona is going to have a good game against this team. That. Yeah, 964 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 1: Arizona's favored by seventeen a half. Do you realize that 965 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: Arizona that can you could you imagine the world last 966 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: year where where somebody told you last year that Arizona 967 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 1: State next season would be favored by seventeen and a 968 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 1: half points and they wouldn't have gotten like thirty transfers. 969 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 1: Just two weeks ago they were the underdog at home 970 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 1: against an FCS team, So I wouldn't have thought this 971 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 1: two weeks ago. But it is. Uh, it is a 972 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 1: testament to jet fish and everything they've accomplish. Um, I'm 973 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 1: rolling with it. It's gonna do. It's gonna be nine 974 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: kickoff in Colorado is probably gonna be out there in 975 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: black uniforms in the sun. Um, it's gonna be a 976 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 1: rough one. Yeah, well it is. It is a night game. Well, 977 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: it starts starts at six starting, so it's still pretty 978 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 1: brutal for that first hour and a half though. Alright, 979 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,880 Speaker 1: Arizona State at U s C twenty five and a 980 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 1: half does the biggest in conference line I've seen in 981 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 1: a while, twenty five and a half in favor of USC. 982 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 1: So you're saying a four touchdown win. No, oh god, no, 983 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 1: you tah Utah beat the hell out of a s 984 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 1: U and the only one by twenty two. Also, you 985 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: got a factor in USC hasn't turned the ball over yet. 986 00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: I think that ends this week. I think, okay, um, 987 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 1: because you gotta turn it over some point, right, Uh, 988 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 1: But it's at home, it's in the Colosseum. Okay, it's 989 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 1: almost at every position. USC is markedly better. Yeah, you 990 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: give him four touchdowns? No, No, I think that they 991 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: slip up. They win this game by twenty four points 992 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 1: is out. So I'm gonna write and I'm gonna write 993 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 1: with you on it because is so much And if 994 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 1: it happens, I mean then that should it happen, that's 995 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 1: a different question. Should U s CB Arizona State by 996 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 1: four touchdowns? Probably? Yes, probably, will it happen? I don't think. 997 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 1: I just don't think so. I think that USC has 998 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 1: been playing with fire in that, like they they have 999 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,919 Speaker 1: this turnover margin and this streak they're on on that's 1000 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 1: not super sustainable. You can't depend on it, and they 1001 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 1: haven't been capitalizing on getting those turnovers when they do 1002 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 1: get them in at the at the end of the day, 1003 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Arizona State does still know how to muddy up and 1004 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 1: slow down a game. Um and half seems insane to me. 1005 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 1: Twenty four is perfect. I'm gonna go with you. Yea, 1006 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 1: all right? Uh Stanford at Oregon, This game is on 1007 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:30,920 Speaker 1: FS one is an eight pm kickoff? Yikers, how many 1008 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 1: yards do you think Tanner mckie's gonna throw for if 1009 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 1: if cam Ward threw for over four hundred, No, he 1010 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 1: through for like three something, I think, right, Okay, I 1011 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 1: thought he did for four yards. Okay, I'll tell you 1012 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 1: maybe maybe Yeah that was bow Nicks. Okay, let me 1013 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 1: tell you the exact stets because we said it earlier. 1014 01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 1: But let me um cam War was three, seven, five, okay, Okay, 1015 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 1: So do you think Tanner McKee equals or Betters three 1016 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 1: because you have to figure it. They'll be down, pa. 1017 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:16,920 Speaker 1: He will be significantly less. Really yeah, yeah, he'll be 1018 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:25,920 Speaker 1: it about nine. You don't even think I'll have all right, Well, 1019 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: how do you feel about the line? Oregon minus seventeen 1020 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 1: at home? Like it? Like it? Yeah? Yeah, I think 1021 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,439 Speaker 1: that's pretty on the nose, though, I think it's pretty 1022 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 1: on the nose. But I'm still gonna take Oregon. I 1023 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 1: think that they end up with a three touch down victory, 1024 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 1: like probably about twenty points because David Shaw is gonna 1025 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 1: kick some field goals for sure. So yes, so I'm 1026 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 1: gonna go with twenty points. So I think that I've 1027 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,480 Speaker 1: got to Oregon in this game. Yeah, I'm uh. There's 1028 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 1: so much pressure right now on on Oregon to keep 1029 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 1: up with Washington, and there's a lot of pressure on 1030 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 1: Kenny Dillingham to put together a resume and you know 1031 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Um, I think that they respond 1032 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 1: to that pressure, and I think they cover the seventeam Okay, 1033 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 1: I agree, all right, so we are in store for 1034 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,479 Speaker 1: a really good weekend of PAC twelve football. You guys, 1035 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 1: leave a five star rating wherever you listen to podcasts, 1036 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 1: make sure that you tell a friend, share it and 1037 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 1: uh yeah, and come come back next week. Peace out, 1038 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 1: Catch you guys later.