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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Micky Spagnola, and it is another edition of Mick
Speaker 1: Shots on this Tuesday. I guess it's late in morning.
Speaker 1: I am Mickey Spagnola and joining me Everson Walls and
Speaker 1: Bill Jones should be along in a moment. He had
Speaker 1: something going on, said he'd be cutting it real close.
Speaker 1: So we hope to have Bill as we go through
Speaker 1: this next hour here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And
Speaker 1: I'm in the SWBC Mors Studio and Everson Walls was
Speaker 1: in the Walls studio at home. How are you doing today?
Speaker 1: The renovated, the renovated studio. We got our popcorn is gone,
Speaker 1: our popcorn gone. I'm onto the next phase, baby, I
Speaker 1: am onto the next phase. And if it wasn't for
Speaker 1: having such crappy games on Saturday, I probably still would
Speaker 1: have been sitting here with popcorn hovering over me. But man,
Speaker 1: it was so boring, you know. And plus, let's just
Speaker 1: be real man. I mean, I know we had a
Speaker 1: team that was very average. I know that we didn't
Speaker 1: do well when it came to you know, adversarial problems
Speaker 1: and things of that nature. But you know, when your
Speaker 1: team's not in it, it's just kind of hard to
Speaker 1: stay extremely focused, especially in a Blowoutum well, I mean
Speaker 1: it was somewhat low. I mean, I guess you weren't
Speaker 1: engaged with Packers Rams. Is that what you're telling me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm telling you. Once Aaron Donald went out,
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of figured what was happening was
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I mean, they actually made it somewhat interesting,
Speaker 1: but you know, it was typical of what you expected
Speaker 1: from the Packers. Aaron Rodgers is flawless. It's almost Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers reminds me of Lebron James in regards to the
Speaker 1: fact that he's playing a game within a game. You know,
Speaker 1: there are times you think you have him under control,
Speaker 1: you don't. He's just testing you. And that's what was
Speaker 1: happening in the game. He was just picking and prodding
Speaker 1: and just trying to figure out the best way he's
Speaker 1: gonna beat you. Not if I can beat you, but
Speaker 1: how I'm going to beat you because beating you is inevitable.
Speaker 1: And that's the way it usually is with Aaron Rodgers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, and and the amazing thing about the
Speaker 1: Packers is that you know they do it with um
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand you know the wide receiver thing, right,
Speaker 1: Uh you know that that uh you know, he's he's
Speaker 1: basically uh has the opportunity to throw to Davante Adams.
Speaker 1: But after that the wide receivers he's throwing too. Are
Speaker 1: you serious? And they and they still you know, put
Speaker 1: up almost five hundred yards of of of offense, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, with with a guy night by the name
Speaker 1: of Lazard and uh, what's the other guy's name that
Speaker 1: has all the two last name Valdez Scandaling right, are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? And and but the key thing to me, Everson,
Speaker 1: was the fact that they they they came out saying,
Speaker 1: we're gonna run the ball on you, by the way,
Speaker 1: La Rams and and you know Donald or no, Donald,
Speaker 1: we're running the football and they ran for what one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight yards? That's clear. Now. Aaron Donald
Speaker 1: came in, he was he was he was having issues
Speaker 1: already coming into the game. I mean, let's let's just
Speaker 1: be clear about that. I don't think a fully healthy
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald they would have been able to handle him
Speaker 1: consistently throughout the game. I get that. But when you
Speaker 1: look at this team, if you're a professional wide receivers bags,
Speaker 1: you know, I like it how people you know, guys
Speaker 1: like good quarterbacks, they spread the ball around to different receivers.
Speaker 1: Let's be real, now, if you made the pros as
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, catching the ball shouldn't be that damn hard. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, and if you're running in a zone wide open,
Speaker 1: and it seems to be every wide receiver is wide
Speaker 1: open all the time. The scheme itself is good, but
Speaker 1: being able to catch a ball it's no big deal. Hell,
Speaker 1: the first time they tried me back in back in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one, I crossed the ball, So catching the
Speaker 1: ball is no big deal, you know. But as far
Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, it's the system itself that has those
Speaker 1: wide receivers just running through zones wide open all the time.
Speaker 1: So as much as Aaron Rodgers is amazing, that system
Speaker 1: itself seems to be working so well to where if
Speaker 1: you're wide open, yeah, catch the ball, it's no big deal.
Speaker 1: You've been doing it since you were ten years old. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what the way Aaron Rodgers handed off to
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones for ninety nine yards, I'm gonna hand off
Speaker 1: Bill Jones because Bill is ready to join us. Nice, nice,
Speaker 1: how y'all doing? We're good? How are you? What's going on?
Speaker 1: William going? All right? I'm sorry. I'm a little late.
Speaker 1: I had an appointment, and you know how that goes. No,
Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't want to hear it. Nobody
Speaker 1: wanted to hear my excuses out of you are now
Speaker 1: the Everson Walls of this group. I left the office
Speaker 1: at a level eight, and I was on track to
Speaker 1: get here at my home office and be ready to
Speaker 1: go in eleven thirty. But I didn't factor in the
Speaker 1: I didn't factor in the trash pick up, and I
Speaker 1: got stuck behind the trash pick up. Guys, a little
Speaker 1: two lane road by my house. That's a good one, Bill,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use that. I'm I'm the trash man why
Speaker 1: I didn't get here in time? And I tell you
Speaker 1: the story about Lawrence Taylor said he was late to
Speaker 1: training camp practice, which is a quart of my walk
Speaker 1: from the dog, from the locker room to the field,
Speaker 1: and in between the field and the locker room, you know,
Speaker 1: people actually walk and they actually have their cause on
Speaker 1: the little gravel road. So we all kind of me
Speaker 1: Andrew I way on through, and so LT was late
Speaker 1: for practice, and then Belichick asked him why. He said, traffic.
Speaker 1: Traffic from the locker room to the field is what
Speaker 1: held him up. So that's pretty good. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if you remember. I don't know if you heard
Speaker 1: Everson say he got bored watching the games on Saturday,
Speaker 1: so he got the popcorn off the ceiling. Did you
Speaker 1: get bored watching the games on Saturday? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't watch a Saturday night game, mickey, because I
Speaker 1: had a high school football state championship on Saturday night.
Speaker 1: But I asked, I am familiar with what happened, though.
Speaker 1: We could break down that high school game if you'd
Speaker 1: like to, but we don't need to. I would, I would,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I would love to hear about
Speaker 1: the high school game. Bill for real. It was the
Speaker 1: Dodge Bowl and a Dodge I want to tell I
Speaker 1: want to well, and a Dodge one, that's right. I
Speaker 1: want to tell the son that he needs to Well,
Speaker 1: I won't get into that on the air. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you off the air what I should tell the son
Speaker 1: about the dad's team. Although all right there. You know,
Speaker 1: RPOs are big at every level of football, from the
Speaker 1: NFL on down to high schools. And and we're talking
Speaker 1: about the Austin Westlake South Lake Carol game and Todd
Speaker 1: Dodge won a sixth state championship. He was coaching against
Speaker 1: his son, Riley Dodge, who's a thirty two year old
Speaker 1: head coach at South Lake Carol. They called ineligible receiver
Speaker 1: down field at least three times on the Austin team.
Speaker 1: And but what it is, it's they run those RPOs.
Speaker 1: And at the high school of you know, at the NFL,
Speaker 1: you can't have a lineman downfield, okay, they may give
Speaker 1: you the grace of a yard or who so around
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage anymore. But at the lower levels
Speaker 1: they it is trickery at work here with these coaches
Speaker 1: and running these RPOs. And what they do is they
Speaker 1: teach their offensive linemen to stay low as if they're
Speaker 1: run blocking, give the look of a run and they
Speaker 1: get vanced downfield a little bit, okay, but they're throwing
Speaker 1: the ball instead, and so it freezes those linebackers and
Speaker 1: the safety where just you know, obviously all you got
Speaker 1: to do that as for a split second and the
Speaker 1: guy's running free behind you. I guarantee you the son
Speaker 1: knew exactly what the dad does all the time, told
Speaker 1: the officials before the game, this is what they do.
Speaker 1: They called it three times, but I bet you they
Speaker 1: did it about every pass play, and so Dad didn't care.
Speaker 1: He's going up against son, and son was just as
Speaker 1: competitive going up against dad. But it is interesting when
Speaker 1: you talk about these RPOs or run pass option and
Speaker 1: the way they do use their offensive linemen to try
Speaker 1: to disguise what they're doing a scheme wise offense of
Speaker 1: ly and so I think it also relates to the
Speaker 1: NFL level what you see at the lower level. Well,
Speaker 1: that is tough enough just playing coaching against your dad,
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's tough enough coaching against your son,
Speaker 1: A coaching against your dad. I would never want to
Speaker 1: do that if my son. My son is pretty good
Speaker 1: at cracking on people all the time. He's a jokester,
Speaker 1: and I think I'm pretty good too. But there's no
Speaker 1: way that I can get into a trash talking deal
Speaker 1: with my son. Eventually I would get too too deep, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know I would, I
Speaker 1: would go for the juggular and then I would never
Speaker 1: forgive myself for that. So I just couldn't. I couldn't
Speaker 1: go against family, and that, you know, the the embrace
Speaker 1: after the game was not that long. I think that
Speaker 1: both these guys are so competitive. They both wanted to
Speaker 1: win so badly. I mean, think about you, Everson, when
Speaker 1: you have let's just say you're around your family holidays
Speaker 1: and you're playing board games or whatever. How can competitive
Speaker 1: are you with your family plan? I'm as competitive my
Speaker 1: my family. I'll tell you, I'm as I'm the most
Speaker 1: competitive person going, and so it gets it gets heated
Speaker 1: at times. I think with me, I know my limitations.
Speaker 1: So I don't do board games. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: play them. I observe only because if I start getting
Speaker 1: into it, then there's something that I can't I can't
Speaker 1: pull away from, and feelings are going to get hurt
Speaker 1: and and you know, wills are gonna be rewritten if
Speaker 1: we start getting into it too deep. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And you can only imagine what Mickey is like.
Speaker 1: Mickey would pull protests. Mickey would protest a loss problem her.
Speaker 1: You should have, you should have. You should have seen
Speaker 1: some of the basement ping pong games my sister and
Speaker 1: I got into because I taught her how to play,
Speaker 1: and I probably taught her a little too well, and
Speaker 1: I had to play hard. You know, you you start
Speaker 1: off playing left handed just to you know, become a competitive.
Speaker 1: Then I'm playing right handed, and it's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: guess I gotta go here now I got one story,
Speaker 1: I got one story, and my sister's gonna kill me.
Speaker 1: I was sitting with my best friend with about fifteen
Speaker 1: years old. I'm the youngest in the family and we're
Speaker 1: playing Dominos. Now, you know, when it comes to Domino's,
Speaker 1: you gotta talk trash, and I don't think my sister
Speaker 1: understood that, right. So she's older than me, So of
Speaker 1: course I domino and I'm slapping it down. I'm talking trash.
Speaker 1: I'm on your backs, let's go blah blah blah. I said,
Speaker 1: I was, I killed you, and I was in her
Speaker 1: face like that, and she just calmly put her dominos
Speaker 1: down and slapped me right across my face. That is
Speaker 1: the last time I played any games with family. So
Speaker 1: you just gotta learn, you gotta learn. Hey, Everson, I
Speaker 1: got a story just like that. This is my nephew, Will,
Speaker 1: who's now twenty five twenty six years old, but this
Speaker 1: was when he was about five or six years old.
Speaker 1: We're out here in my house. Here, my office. Here,
Speaker 1: it's above the garage. He overlooks the driveway. We've got
Speaker 1: a basketball goal out there. All right. We're playing two
Speaker 1: unto It's me and my brother in law, and I
Speaker 1: can't remember the teams, but anyway, Will, the five or
Speaker 1: six year old, was on the other team. Well, we
Speaker 1: win the game. I'm jumping around in the driveway, up,
Speaker 1: up and down. I'm going yes, yes, yes, Will. He's
Speaker 1: five years old. He comes charging at me and with
Speaker 1: this fist puts it right where it hurts the most.
Speaker 1: Where did he learn? Back? Where did he learn? So
Speaker 1: that that's how competitive it is around here. So case
Speaker 1: in point on all that, you can only imagine what
Speaker 1: it's what it's like when it's your livelihood, it's your profession,
Speaker 1: and you you uh that father son stuff out the window.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to beat that guy that could go off
Speaker 1: for years, by the way, off for years that rivalry.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so anyway, um, but uh yeah, the whole
Speaker 1: RPO thing though, with the it's very interesting how it's changed.
Speaker 1: You know, football is ever evolving strategy wise, and um
Speaker 1: and I think on this, uh you know, the ineligible
Speaker 1: receiver downfield stuff, that it's a five yard penalty right now,
Speaker 1: I think it needs to be a ten yard penalty
Speaker 1: just to to because it is basically it should be
Speaker 1: the same as holding because you're basically holding the linebacker
Speaker 1: in safety from being able to do their job because
Speaker 1: you're doing something uh illegal to keep them at bay.
Speaker 1: And so watch for it when you're when we're watching games.
Speaker 1: How many times that offensive coordinators get away with the
Speaker 1: a lineman downfield on those RPO plays. Well, that would
Speaker 1: that would be Baltimore would be one of those teams.
Speaker 1: There you go that I had to deal with that well,
Speaker 1: making other teams deal with that, because you know, when
Speaker 1: you're looking at Lamar Jackson, you're looking at the best
Speaker 1: RPO quarterback probably in history, especially with the speed. And
Speaker 1: once again we were I was kind of disappointed in
Speaker 1: his lack of passing prowess this year, especially after the
Speaker 1: improvements that he made last year which got him the
Speaker 1: MVP Trophy. He didn't get the MVP Trophy for just
Speaker 1: being able to run the ball. He got the trophy
Speaker 1: because he was able to show his improvement in passing
Speaker 1: the ball, which, by the way, was I the only
Speaker 1: one to pick the Bills doing that game? Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I picked, uh, you know my pick. My pick was
Speaker 1: I think I went with Baltimore. I went with Everson
Speaker 1: so I would get a mollary disappointment now and missed
Speaker 1: the Saints. Okay, yeah, you missed the Saints. Oh you
Speaker 1: had you had the Saints. Yeah, Now, I was just
Speaker 1: I was just disappointed. I was very disappointed in Baltimore's offense.
Speaker 1: I really was. Defensively, they did it the best they could,
Speaker 1: but offensively, those same demons came back to haunt them.
Speaker 1: And you know, otherwise, the Sunday games were good. I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed the Sunday games, but Saturday a little bit disappointing.
Speaker 1: Let's get into that when we come back in a moment.
Speaker 1: Hot sports opinion about the Cleveland Browns at the end
Speaker 1: of that game, and I would like to know what
Speaker 1: analytics says about a certain decision that was made towards
Speaker 1: the end of that game with the Browns head coach,
Speaker 1: and we got much more to get into. There's things
Speaker 1: going on there at the Star in Frisco as well.
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Speaker 1: about divisional playoff weekend, what happened on Saturday, And let's
Speaker 1: turn our attention to Sunday a little bit. And of
Speaker 1: course you had the great quarterback matchup on Sunday night
Speaker 1: with Breeze against Brady, and then the early game you
Speaker 1: had Mayfield against Mahomes. Mahomes gets hurt and Chad Henney
Speaker 1: winds up winning that game for the Chiefs in the
Speaker 1: final minutes with a scramble and then a fourth down
Speaker 1: play to Tyreek Hill to seal the deal. But let's
Speaker 1: talk about the Browns, and they're just insion with four
Speaker 1: and a half minutes to go in the game to
Speaker 1: punt the football away, and I believe that at least
Speaker 1: used one of their timeouts at that point, and I
Speaker 1: just think it was a critical mistake for Kevin Stefanski
Speaker 1: to punt the ball away. And even though it was
Speaker 1: fourth and nine or whatever it was, and your own
Speaker 1: end of the field. But considering the fact that you're
Speaker 1: only down five points, and okay, you're asking your defense
Speaker 1: by punting the ball away, you got to get a
Speaker 1: stop because basically one, maybe one first down, but for
Speaker 1: sure two first downs wins the game for the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: and you're asking your defense they got to get a stop. Well,
Speaker 1: let's say that you don't get the first down on
Speaker 1: your fourth down play, and now you have you're basically
Speaker 1: having to ask your defense to do the exact same
Speaker 1: thing you're asking them. If you're punting the ball away,
Speaker 1: you limit them to a field goal, and you're only
Speaker 1: down one score. Still it's still an eight point game,
Speaker 1: and so I think the risk of putting the ball
Speaker 1: away doesn't match up with the reward of going forward
Speaker 1: on that fourth down play. I just thought it was
Speaker 1: a huge mistake. And I don't know what analytics would
Speaker 1: say about something like that, but I think there was
Speaker 1: a huge mistake not to go for it on that
Speaker 1: fourth down play by by Cleveland. What do y'all think? Well,
Speaker 1: the other the other part of that is, and you
Speaker 1: knew that when Kansas City got the ball, so they
Speaker 1: were going to either get the ball because they were
Speaker 1: facing a fourth and nine at Cleveland was facing the
Speaker 1: fourth and nine at their thirty two. So say you
Speaker 1: picked up seven yards or six yards, they're going to
Speaker 1: be in field goal range right away, like you said.
Speaker 1: But the other factor is, okay, they're playing with a
Speaker 1: backup quarterback now all so, so I think you had
Speaker 1: to factor that in to not get and they only
Speaker 1: had one more time out left, Bill They had used
Speaker 1: their second one in that series, and that was the
Speaker 1: critical thing. If they had three timeouts left, okay, but
Speaker 1: in this league, with the timing rules in the NFL,
Speaker 1: if you've got less than three, especially if you only
Speaker 1: got one, you got to treat that that it's basically
Speaker 1: two and a half minutes left of the game out
Speaker 1: four and a half minutes left. Yeah, absolutely, And you
Speaker 1: know they had it set up they I mean, they
Speaker 1: had them third and four and they allowed to Henny
Speaker 1: to throw the little short pass two was it Darryl
Speaker 1: Williams for five yards in the first down, And that's
Speaker 1: what really killed the game right there, because then all
Speaker 1: you had was the two minute warning left, and you know,
Speaker 1: and even if you had stopped him on fourth and one,
Speaker 1: all right, you know you still got only a minute
Speaker 1: fourteen to go, precious little time. Yeah, yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was a little surprised they punted it
Speaker 1: at that time. Actually, I wasn't surprised. I think just
Speaker 1: based on what you said, Spact, you had the backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Stefanski was looking at that and saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is our opportunity that he was trying to be
Speaker 1: strategic in that regard. If my homes would have been quarterbacking,
Speaker 1: then they would have been a totally different story. His
Speaker 1: decisions would have been a little bit more dire. They
Speaker 1: would have, you know, had a little bit more panic,
Speaker 1: a little bit more panic to them, a little more
Speaker 1: sense of urgency to me. Like Spack said, it was
Speaker 1: working out just the way they thought it would. You
Speaker 1: gotta backup quarterback. You have him on what was the
Speaker 1: thirty four Yeah, I'm thinking I'm gonna bet on my defense.
Speaker 1: I have a hell of a defense in Cleveland. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm sorry, i have a hell of a defense there,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna go with with my strength
Speaker 1: at this point. We're gonna be strategic. We're gonna forget
Speaker 1: the analytics. We're just gonna go with what's traditional. You
Speaker 1: just don't go for fourth down that keep in your territory.
Speaker 1: I know that's what he was thinking, and he couldn't
Speaker 1: justify that, especially when you start looking at the criticisms
Speaker 1: and just with us here in regards to going forward
Speaker 1: on fourth down, it may not be a fake punt,
Speaker 1: but going forward kind of deepen your own territory. They
Speaker 1: just looked at that as a quicker death as opposed
Speaker 1: to what happened, uh eventually to where they kind of
Speaker 1: drew it out and at least had a chance to
Speaker 1: make it happen. They just didn't. They just didn't do
Speaker 1: it on third down defensively. And you know what, and
Speaker 1: when you look at it, you guys, you know what
Speaker 1: what Everson just said. Normally, coaching decisions, you try to
Speaker 1: draw the game out as long as you can and
Speaker 1: not try to have the outcome resting on one play.
Speaker 1: And and and that's that's historically the way coaches have coached.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, until until I'm in desperate territory with
Speaker 1: you know, less than a minute to go. But otherwise,
Speaker 1: you know, the ideas draw the game out as long
Speaker 1: as you can, don't rest it on one play. So
Speaker 1: I understand that part of it too. And now it's
Speaker 1: a Mahomes waiting game to get him cleared to play
Speaker 1: against Buffalo on Sunday. I don't think there's any doubt
Speaker 1: he'll get cleared. I mean, Andy Reid was acting like
Speaker 1: he in the old days and ever since days he
Speaker 1: would have gone back into the game, probably on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's different rules, and that's a good thing
Speaker 1: as far as getting guys. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: could have come back in the game even in the
Speaker 1: old days that he was making well, I know, but
Speaker 1: Andy Reid. Yesterday, Andy Reid said that he thought because
Speaker 1: he ran up the ramp a little while later the
Speaker 1: game was still going on that Uh, he probably the
Speaker 1: old days would have on right gone not right back in,
Speaker 1: but eventually gone back in time. You know what I did,
Speaker 1: I did read part of part of his problem was
Speaker 1: that he got the win knocked out of him also, uh,
Speaker 1: and that may be why when he got up he
Speaker 1: looked like he was in another world, right. Uh. And
Speaker 1: then what I saw I'm running into the locker room,
Speaker 1: I said, Oh, he's trying to put on a brave
Speaker 1: thing for the independent uh doctor that's going to check
Speaker 1: him for a concussion, right, you know. And and here's
Speaker 1: the other thing everybody was was was making a big
Speaker 1: deal that it on on Monday that he was still
Speaker 1: in concussion protocol. Well, of course he's in concussion protocol,
Speaker 1: because until you do two days in a row of
Speaker 1: strenuous work, you stay in concussion protocol. And so, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, not until they have not until he goes
Speaker 1: out and works out and then the next day gets
Speaker 1: up and works out again without any any problems, he's
Speaker 1: going to stay in concussion protocol, you know. And uh,
Speaker 1: it was funny listening to Troy Aikman today on during
Speaker 1: his segment on The Ticket talking about the nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: three NFC Tile Game when he got knocked out and
Speaker 1: there was no week between that game winning beating San
Speaker 1: Francisco and then going to the Super Bowl in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: And he said that the concussion that he suffered in
Speaker 1: that NFC title game was the worst one of all
Speaker 1: the concussions he suffered in the NFL. And he said,
Speaker 1: if it was today, he said, there was no way
Speaker 1: they would have let me play in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: he said, they were absolutely Wow. I would have been
Speaker 1: in concussion protocol and I wouldn't have made it to
Speaker 1: the game. So things have changed. I have changed for
Speaker 1: the better, let's face it, right, Yeah, no doubt, because
Speaker 1: I remember that if you remember when when when when
Speaker 1: when they they the Cowboys showed up that Um, I
Speaker 1: guess it was Monday in Atlanta and they did the
Speaker 1: night interviews that night. And I don't know if Troy
Speaker 1: still knew where he was, you know. I think one
Speaker 1: of the times when they asked him after the game
Speaker 1: or where he was, and he I'm in the Henrietta, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: You know. So when they say you got you got
Speaker 1: knocked into yesterday, he got knocked into yesterday. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: talk about that, I would call it wasn't a concussion.
Speaker 1: But then the nineteen ninety one championship game against the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, when I was with the Giants and
Speaker 1: uh Lt on the passing play makes Joe Montana pull
Speaker 1: the ball down and then here comes Lena Marshall for
Speaker 1: the clean up. And I told people we didn't Joe
Speaker 1: woke up up in Kansas City. That's the next time
Speaker 1: you saw him playing football. So those hits. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: can knock you into another region. They can knock you
Speaker 1: into another stratosphere, another time zone. And that's why it's
Speaker 1: important for quarterbacks. The slide rule is good. And sometimes
Speaker 1: my homes can be you know, very mucho about that.
Speaker 1: You know, he's Texas kid, you know, he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to be thought of as just that guy that slides
Speaker 1: all the time. But it's smart to slide because not
Speaker 1: only did his head hit the ground just the way
Speaker 1: he was being manipulated, it looked as if he would
Speaker 1: have had he also would have had some neck problems
Speaker 1: because once those linemen catch up with you, they're trying
Speaker 1: to hurt you and a quarterback as well. They want
Speaker 1: to their goal. Let's be real. Their goal is not
Speaker 1: just to tackle a quarterback. The goal is to knock
Speaker 1: a quarterback out of the game if you get the chance.
Speaker 1: And that's going old school and that's new school. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. That does not change, you know, And that's
Speaker 1: I was dicey on the on the third down scrambled
Speaker 1: by Chad Henny because he was gonna get there. You know. However,
Speaker 1: he reminded me of Dak Prescott, right, He wasn't sliding.
Speaker 1: He was gonna go ahead first, right, what if he
Speaker 1: got hit? You know, yeah, they're probably punning because I
Speaker 1: don't know who the next quarterback was that would have
Speaker 1: would have been able to come in, and then the
Speaker 1: punter probably was the next quarterback. Yeah, you're you're probably right,
Speaker 1: you know, And and if you think about it, the
Speaker 1: same thing nearly happened. And then the other key play
Speaker 1: in that game, uh was Higgins dive diving through the
Speaker 1: pylon and then fumbling the ball through the end zone
Speaker 1: for the touchback. That was the killer, you know, And
Speaker 1: I think I saw the interview with Stefanski and he
Speaker 1: basically said, our rule of thumb is if you're gonna
Speaker 1: be first in goal at the one, you don't reach out,
Speaker 1: Let's let's give us four chances to get in. And
Speaker 1: you know, and he got hit ahead like a minute
Speaker 1: it was. It was over a minute plus to go,
Speaker 1: so it wasn't like there was a time serious situation then.
Speaker 1: But you know what he got, He got helmet to
Speaker 1: helmet and you know, he that couldn't very well. They
Speaker 1: missed him. They missed that, They missed that. If I'm
Speaker 1: a Cowboy fan and that happens to us. I'm going
Speaker 1: off right now, that's the first thing that we talk about,
Speaker 1: and we'll probably talk about it through the break. If
Speaker 1: if I'm a Cowboy fan and that happens to us,
Speaker 1: that call needs to be made. And if you're talking
Speaker 1: about the reason for the helmet to helmet rule is
Speaker 1: for the safety of the players, just like with the quarterback.
Speaker 1: So now you can't can you review that? And if
Speaker 1: you can review it, why wasn't it reviewed. That's something
Speaker 1: that should have been really taken care of instead of
Speaker 1: it seems like they were trying to as referees, they
Speaker 1: were trying to rush the game along. This is a
Speaker 1: playoff games. That's the time when you have to get
Speaker 1: everything right. That's the purpose of them having the best
Speaker 1: referee crews in playoff games. So they got it right
Speaker 1: all year long. You need to get it right now.
Speaker 1: This is crucial. And I thought, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you can review that, you tell miss bags. But if
Speaker 1: you can review it, it should have been reviewed. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they can review a missed penalty now.
Speaker 1: In college, they would have reviewed it right because they
Speaker 1: from upstad. You know, in college under two mass it
Speaker 1: should be reviewed as targeting. It's under two minutes, doesn't
Speaker 1: let's take precedence. I don't know if they can review
Speaker 1: targeting if it's not called, if it's not called on
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, and even in college, I think it's
Speaker 1: got to be called on the field, although maybe not.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought go to New York. I thought
Speaker 1: you could go to New York. It is something that's
Speaker 1: not decided on the field, but it would be decided
Speaker 1: by the guys in New York. That's what I thought.
Speaker 1: See and the and the problem was there was only
Speaker 1: one official there that could see it right, and his
Speaker 1: his view was where's the ball in the pylon? He
Speaker 1: probably wasn't looking at the there's so much for him
Speaker 1: to look at there. Yeah, in bounds is bounds. And
Speaker 1: but why it should have been shifted to New York.
Speaker 1: That's why that's why they need to have you're right,
Speaker 1: ever since that's why that needs to come from above.
Speaker 1: That's why they gain a sky judge. That is exactly why.
Speaker 1: Right there, the guy buzzes down and say, hey, you
Speaker 1: need to look at this. Just like past interference. The
Speaker 1: guy up there can see it. He can see it
Speaker 1: better than the guy that's on the field, looking at
Speaker 1: three different things at once, and and and they just
Speaker 1: refused to do what they should do. They got cameras
Speaker 1: all over the freaking place. They got, they got beautiful
Speaker 1: angles everywhere college football, pro football. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I's not done it. Yeah, where was the pylone cam
Speaker 1: on that play? All right? Um? What about the Sunday
Speaker 1: night game Brady and Breeze? What do you think of
Speaker 1: that one? I somewhat felt sorry for Breeze. You know what?
Speaker 1: That game reminded me of Michael Thomas. Tried to play, right,
Speaker 1: he wasn't right. He's now he's gonna have surgery, all right,
Speaker 1: that's how bad his injury was. He tried to go
Speaker 1: out there and play. It reminded me of the two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven playoff game with the Cowboys and the
Speaker 1: Giants when Taryll Owens tried to play, but he wasn't
Speaker 1: Taryll Owens in that game, and the cow and Tony
Speaker 1: Romo didn't really have a lead receiver to throw the
Speaker 1: ball too. And that was an instance where I just thought,
Speaker 1: on a couple of those interceptions for Drew Brees, his guys,
Speaker 1: he was thrown too, so him out. They didn't run
Speaker 1: the route right the one to Kimeara. I don't know
Speaker 1: what what he was thinking. I don't know what happened
Speaker 1: on that one Spa. I mean he hadn oh, he
Speaker 1: never turned and I'm not sure what time at what
Speaker 1: point he was gonna turn, because he ran right into
Speaker 1: the coverage when he tried to throw him open. Uh so, yeah,
Speaker 1: unless he was going to hook up before that defender
Speaker 1: that got the interception, Unless he was gonna hook up
Speaker 1: before that defender came across, that still could have been intercepted. Spags. Well,
Speaker 1: if he was hook up her opportunity, it wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been you know. And then the other one bounces off
Speaker 1: the guy's hands and it gets intercepted. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And I know the quarterback gets charged for all the interceptions,
Speaker 1: but look, neither quarterback. I mean, you know, they talked about,
Speaker 1: you know, how well Tom Brady played. Would he have
Speaker 1: to drive like a yard, thirty yards, twenty yards for
Speaker 1: a touchdown. It wasn't like he was zipping up and
Speaker 1: down the field. The defense won that game for Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: and that was the impressive part of that game. We
Speaker 1: talked about the Saints number one defense I had a
Speaker 1: feeling that Brady was not going to have that great game,
Speaker 1: and it's like you said, Spags, it wasn't that great
Speaker 1: a game. He was just solid. He actually just managed
Speaker 1: that game with the great talent that he has on
Speaker 1: the field. But at the same time, you look at
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay defense was really what won that game
Speaker 1: for them. And I have always been one of those
Speaker 1: I guess because I'm a defender. I look at I
Speaker 1: can see Drew Brees and his talent dwindling a bit,
Speaker 1: and I could see him being a bit predictable down
Speaker 1: the scenes. Is the strength of their offense always has been.
Speaker 1: If I was a defender, that's exactly how I play him.
Speaker 1: It seems like more defensive coordinators or understanding that, and
Speaker 1: they're really putting a lot of pressure on Drew Brees
Speaker 1: up the middle. Everything is up the middle, where it's
Speaker 1: a blitz or whether it's where you concentrate your past defense,
Speaker 1: it's always gonna be between the numbers. That's Breeze's strength,
Speaker 1: and they finally started to figure that out. Plus his
Speaker 1: arm is just not quite there like it used to be,
Speaker 1: so yeah, those interceptions have been coming more often than
Speaker 1: they were in the past and his effectiveness is going
Speaker 1: down bit by bit. Is this his last game? That's
Speaker 1: the good question. Is he gonna come in and try
Speaker 1: it again with a great defense that he has where
Speaker 1: you think Spats, well, you know what, I trust Jay
Speaker 1: Glazer and Jay glazers pretty close to Sean Payton. And
Speaker 1: when he announced it right before, are the last segment
Speaker 1: of the pregame show that this was the last home
Speaker 1: game for Drew Brees. Guardless if they won, they were
Speaker 1: going on the road. The Super Bowl would be on
Speaker 1: the road. Then I would think this is probably it
Speaker 1: for him. He's pretty tight with Sean and the scene
Speaker 1: after the game would indicate it as well. The Cup
Speaker 1: and supposedly for a couple of hours, the Breeze and
Speaker 1: his family were out on the field and you probably
Speaker 1: saw the video of Brady out there with him throwing
Speaker 1: a pass to Breeze his kid on the yeah too.
Speaker 1: It was just a couple of forty year olds, forty
Speaker 1: something year olds just playing catch with the kids out
Speaker 1: in the park. Let me let me give some context.
Speaker 1: So that by the way, because if if you and
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, ever since played at the Superdome,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna assume the visitors. Yeah, the visitors. The visitor's
Speaker 1: locker room is on the opposite end of the field
Speaker 1: from where the buses take you away. So, and the
Speaker 1: worst part is, if you lose, you gotta walk one
Speaker 1: hundred yards all the way across the field to get
Speaker 1: to where the buses are. So Tom Brady didn't go
Speaker 1: out there and make a special effort to talk to him.
Speaker 1: He had to walk all the way across. And I'll
Speaker 1: give you a good example. The last time, um, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys played that was it last year or two years ago?
Speaker 1: It was last year? Right? They played at in New Orleans?
Speaker 1: Uh and got beat Um. No, I don't think so that.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was two years ago, not not this season,
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen or twenty and anyway, Okay, so I'm making
Speaker 1: I'm making the walk, the one hundred yard walk. Right,
Speaker 1: and Sean uh is on the bench. His kids are
Speaker 1: out there playing. His kids, they're grown now, but they're
Speaker 1: still out there throwing the ball around, right and Uh
Speaker 1: and he saw me and we we talked for a
Speaker 1: while before I got to the bus. So that's kind
Speaker 1: of a natural thing that the players normally go out
Speaker 1: there with their kids afterwards, U, you gotta meet up.
Speaker 1: They didn't make us special. You gotta make that walk.
Speaker 1: But he did stop and that was a neat thing,
Speaker 1: and he told us, he told Breeze and Sound, I'll
Speaker 1: be nice to your sister. Because I guess they were
Speaker 1: wrestling on the field or something. It was pretty cute,
Speaker 1: like one arm one of them's gonna be a gymnast.
Speaker 1: I saw some one one arm somersaults going on out there,
Speaker 1: so that was pretty good. One of the kids gonna
Speaker 1: be I think it's one of Breezes. I think it's
Speaker 1: Breezes his daughter. She's gonna be a nice gymnast or
Speaker 1: chiliad or something because she was out there making some moves. Man.
Speaker 1: Ever since, how amazing is it that these guys are
Speaker 1: still doing it over the age of forty. I think
Speaker 1: it's it's very amazing. I'm you know, I'm a little envious.
Speaker 1: As a defensive back, we don't really get to ride
Speaker 1: off into the sunset like that. Never do. The quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are the ones that always get to have these press
Speaker 1: conferences and things of that nature. But play until you're
Speaker 1: forty plus years old. I don't give a dog on
Speaker 1: what kind of advantages you might have or whatever. That
Speaker 1: is an amazing accomplishment. And to have your team in
Speaker 1: the position that it's in now is pretty cool. I
Speaker 1: recall I was only thirty one years old one time
Speaker 1: and I made a play in the end zone. It
Speaker 1: was Sunday night football. I made a play in the
Speaker 1: end zone against Philadelphia and the commentator said, yeah, he
Speaker 1: made that play with I think he said the light
Speaker 1: shined off my gray hair or some crap like that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, commentators words hurt. Okay, I
Speaker 1: mean so now if I'm watching that game, I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: everything waters old. Did you what the commentator just said?
Speaker 1: So now the narrative is already out there. I can't
Speaker 1: rewrite it, you know what I'm saying. But I think
Speaker 1: it's I think every position really should get a chance
Speaker 1: to be glorified in that manner. You see them sometimes
Speaker 1: they just can't wait to just kick guys out the door,
Speaker 1: and especially guys that have done so much for this NFL.
Speaker 1: And I'm going back to the eighties and nineties where
Speaker 1: there was no love loss for anybody in spags knows
Speaker 1: about those days. Now, this is a nice, politically correct
Speaker 1: league to where guys are good, a little bit more love,
Speaker 1: a little bit more consideration based on what they've contributed
Speaker 1: to the NFL. So it's good to see that those
Speaker 1: guys are getting that. I'd like to see all types
Speaker 1: of players get that kind of love and respect into
Speaker 1: the older ages. That's why I ask you, they got
Speaker 1: to be a deep snapper. Yeah, all right? So ever, yeah,
Speaker 1: they've got many ceremonies for deep snappers out there when
Speaker 1: they retire. Yeah right, every singing of all the cornerbacks
Speaker 1: who played to a to a late time in their career,
Speaker 1: late thirties, whatever the age might be, who is the
Speaker 1: most amazing to you that they kept their skill level
Speaker 1: up into their late thirties or whatever age you want
Speaker 1: to put on it. I can't think of any defensive
Speaker 1: back that went into their late thirties, but just a
Speaker 1: Dallas cowboy that I was very impressed with who made
Speaker 1: a change in his career in his style of play
Speaker 1: as he got older, and I was I kind of
Speaker 1: did it myself, so I appreciate what he did. Watching
Speaker 1: Darren Woodson sacrifice his strong safety prowess to drop down
Speaker 1: and cover the slot on third downs, that was big
Speaker 1: for me to watch a guy who basically came out
Speaker 1: of height out of college as a linebacker and worked
Speaker 1: himself into one of the best strong safeties the Cowboys
Speaker 1: ever had, and then from there to drop down and
Speaker 1: cover a slot receiver, which is the toughest position to
Speaker 1: cover on third downs in passing downs. I was very
Speaker 1: impressed to see how Woodson was able to play out
Speaker 1: his career while doing that. And I know how difficult
Speaker 1: that is, because I tried to do it myself. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me well, let me be more specific. All amazed
Speaker 1: to you that Daryl Greene was able to do it
Speaker 1: two years of age. I saw Daryl green thirty, I
Speaker 1: guess it was. He must have been thirty seven, thirty
Speaker 1: eight years old. Put the lockdown on Randy Moss. I
Speaker 1: believe there was Monday Night football, and it was amazing
Speaker 1: to see he's maybe Spagnola size. They're they're about the
Speaker 1: same height. Let's be real. They both talk a whole
Speaker 1: lot of trash. Get on my damn nerves. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, he was so accomplished at what he did.
Speaker 1: He never got interceptions. He got He set a record
Speaker 1: for like at least one interception every year for seventeen
Speaker 1: years or something like that. That's not impressive to me.
Speaker 1: What's impressive to me is the way that he handled
Speaker 1: wide receivers who were at the peak of their careers
Speaker 1: while he was at the end of his no interceptions,
Speaker 1: just straight up shutdown, real shutdown. I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders or I shut them down. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: because I talked trash with my mouth. No, he shut
Speaker 1: them down with his legs and he it was, it was,
Speaker 1: it was evident, and it was often so. Yeah, Darryl
Speaker 1: Green was that guy. Thanks for bringing that up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a cornerback who played twenty years in the NFL, retiring
Speaker 1: after the two thousand and two season at age forty two.
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Speaker 1: never told you guys, I used to do that stuff. No,
Speaker 1: you did not, really, Yeah, and I live to tell us,
Speaker 1: and I lived. I have a I have a broken
Speaker 1: clavicle to show for it. But yeah, we used to
Speaker 1: my neighborhood. We used to jump, We made our own ramps.
Speaker 1: We do Evil Knevil. That was my hero, Evil Knevil.
Speaker 1: With my hero, I had a Honda one Honda XL
Speaker 1: one hundred and we tore up the neighborhood and me
Speaker 1: and my buddies, it was three of us, And I
Speaker 1: know those people in my neighborhood and Hamilton Park was
Speaker 1: so mad at us because we were up and down
Speaker 1: those streets all day long, every day. I never thought
Speaker 1: about what an inconvenience that was for all the people
Speaker 1: that trying to get some rest. Because right now, if
Speaker 1: I had some people riding around my neighborhood making all
Speaker 1: that noise, I would shoot them. I promise you I would.
Speaker 1: How old no I was. I was very good at it.
Speaker 1: And we had guys in my neighborhood who were even
Speaker 1: better than me, so like when they were in high school.
Speaker 1: It was when I started playing football my senior year
Speaker 1: in high school. I finally made the team. When out
Speaker 1: of football. After that I stopped writing. But before that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was riding. We rode. I rode it to school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it was. It was very that was my thing. Man.
Speaker 1: Most cycles were the best. They were the best. So
Speaker 1: what sports did you play before your senior year in
Speaker 1: high school. You didn't play football until your senior year
Speaker 1: in high school. Well, I and I played basketball. Of
Speaker 1: course I played basketball. Uh, never liked baseball that much.
Speaker 1: My dad loved baseball. Of course, that great center, the room,
Speaker 1: center field. You would have been a guy. Oh, I
Speaker 1: was the willing you know, like I tell people, anytime
Speaker 1: you have a one black kid on an all white
Speaker 1: baseball team, where do you put that black kid center field?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you. Let me tell you because he
Speaker 1: had we had our ward right center field and leadoff.
Speaker 1: That's it. Well I was. I was a little bigger,
Speaker 1: so I was center field there and clean up so
Speaker 1: I backed it forth. But yeah, that's and I couldn't
Speaker 1: catch what the crap until my dad finally showed me.
Speaker 1: And to this day people ask me, well, who's your
Speaker 1: the best coach I ever had? My father was my
Speaker 1: best coach I've ever had. He taught me how to
Speaker 1: care and that that's plays in the field. That Willie
Speaker 1: May scenario, that was a matter of necessity because I
Speaker 1: couldn't follow the ball in the air at all. It
Speaker 1: was like, what the hell am I doing out here?
Speaker 1: I dropped everything and I asked my father, why was that?
Speaker 1: I said, why is the ball moving so much? He said, son,
Speaker 1: you're not running on your toes. And so once I
Speaker 1: ran on my toes, I tried to that practice and
Speaker 1: it was like magic. I could follow the ball without
Speaker 1: it dancing in the air. And so people when Bradsham
Speaker 1: said Bradsham was the only one that noticed it. He said,
Speaker 1: every sud I knew when you were gonna get an
Speaker 1: interception because your gate changed. That's because once you turn
Speaker 1: and look for the ball, I have to be on
Speaker 1: my toes. I can't run like you know, the frantic
Speaker 1: urgency type of running. You have to gather yourself. I've
Speaker 1: been run on your toes so that you can follow
Speaker 1: the flight of the ball. That's what made me what
Speaker 1: I am today. And it's no lie. That's why my
Speaker 1: dad's my my my best coach I've ever had, Tom Ladie,
Speaker 1: Eddie Robinson, Belichet, it doesn't matter. My father was my
Speaker 1: best coach simply because of that, out of necessity. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: I'd been getting hidden in the head in center field
Speaker 1: a whole game, playing that baseball game, and I just
Speaker 1: figured you would be a great center field because you're
Speaker 1: able to track the ball so well in as a
Speaker 1: cornerback in the NFL too. But you're right, I mean,
Speaker 1: baseball was first. Baseball made me the football player I am.
Speaker 1: There you go, and you think about it with baseball
Speaker 1: players at the pitch, all right, you don't have to
Speaker 1: be on your toes until the pitcher gets into the
Speaker 1: wind up and throwing the home plate. But the great player,
Speaker 1: you're on your toes at right at the pitch, got too.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk Hall of Fame and apparently the
Speaker 1: virtue truly. The Hall of Fame Selection Committee is meeting today.
Speaker 1: They've already discussed Drew Pearson this morning. I'm assuming they're
Speaker 1: all going to keep it a secret until the Saturday
Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl. Mickey, what's the deal on that.
Speaker 1: When's the announcement gonna come? Yeah, it doesn't come till then.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're going through so the drill will
Speaker 1: find out until then, Well, they're they're they're eliminated. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're they're whittling it down to what the last fifteen?
Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Yeah? Yes? But but while
Speaker 1: are they discussing the senior then well there's only it's
Speaker 1: only he's the only senior. They gotta he's the only senior.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is if they're gonna meet again on
Speaker 1: that Saturday before the super Bowl just discuss him, then yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess he's still just whittled down because normally they
Speaker 1: do it when there's more than more than two guys
Speaker 1: to see. But usually those guys are automatically talked about
Speaker 1: on Saturday list of what happens today, Right, So I
Speaker 1: don't I'm not sure why why that that would take place.
Speaker 1: Plus they're gonna rubb or stamp this one that this
Speaker 1: ain't gonna happen, right, you know he's exactly so, uh,
Speaker 1: he's in for sure. And then and then when they
Speaker 1: have the ceremony finally next what next year or I'm
Speaker 1: losing track to my time. Yeah, when they do well,
Speaker 1: because Cliff Cliffs still, they got so many they gotta
Speaker 1: click in the Jimmy's both both have to go in, right,
Speaker 1: so it'll be all good, right, Right, It's gonna be
Speaker 1: such a huge ceremony this year with the last year's
Speaker 1: class and this year's class going in. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: get you're gonna have three cowboys with Jimmy Johnson, Cliff
Speaker 1: Harris and Drew Pearson going in coaching. You got two
Speaker 1: free agents going in. That's how about that? That's extremely
Speaker 1: and should have another one and swift. You know, you
Speaker 1: think about where Cliffs came came from and what he's
Speaker 1: been through, really, both he and Drew. You know, as
Speaker 1: we get older, we go through our tragedies and things
Speaker 1: of that nature, and they've been through so much. Cliff's
Speaker 1: father was blind. I don't know if he's still alive.
Speaker 1: He's still alive, but he's blind from diabetes. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: his cause. That's Cliff's cause. We're playing his diabetes golf
Speaker 1: tournament all the time, and that's his cause. That's why
Speaker 1: he and I pretty tight in regards to that because
Speaker 1: of the whole thing what I did with Springs, and
Speaker 1: it kind of brought Cliff and I a little bit
Speaker 1: closer together and made me a little bit more empathetic
Speaker 1: towards what he and his father been going through. His
Speaker 1: father never could see him play, His father could never
Speaker 1: visually physically see him play. And for a Cliff to
Speaker 1: be able to make this honor, you know, and his
Speaker 1: father still be around, that's pretty pretty cool, very amazing.
Speaker 1: And be a free agent coming out of where watch
Speaker 1: it Tall Baptist University, Give me a break, arcul Delphia, Arkansas.
Speaker 1: All of that sounds like made up words. All I'm
Speaker 1: selling Cowboys searching for a defensive line coach? If if
Speaker 1: not more than that, Mickey Wright, Yes, and who knows
Speaker 1: that that might just be the start of redoing that
Speaker 1: defensive line coach. Reports out there say they've interviewed Aiden
Speaker 1: Derd Is that how you say? D U R d E?
Speaker 1: And Giff Smith for the defensive line coach. Dird served
Speaker 1: He worked with Dan Quinn on the staff in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: started off as a defensive quality controlled coach and then
Speaker 1: was an outside linebacker coach. So I don't know how
Speaker 1: much actual NFL experience he has other than those couple
Speaker 1: of years. And then Smith had spent five seasons with
Speaker 1: the Chargers as their defensive line coach. Prior to that,
Speaker 1: he was a defensive line coach with the Titans for
Speaker 1: two years, the Bills for three years, and then Georgia
Speaker 1: Tech he started off their six years as a defensive coach. So, uh,
Speaker 1: looks like they're looking to bring in someone there by
Speaker 1: the way along those lines, Mackey Mackey just per second. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, Quinn could decide to coach like Marinelli did,
Speaker 1: makes the defensive line and be the coordinator. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why he can be technically the defensive line. And
Speaker 1: he's probably looking for an assistant defense. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: got Scott leon let, but he has another spot there
Speaker 1: if he assuming they keep let h and then just
Speaker 1: have a guy there to help out for more of
Speaker 1: the clerical work. But he could he could be the
Speaker 1: defensive line coach. You know, I saw an interesting note
Speaker 1: on on Dan Quinn. Uh, And I don't know what
Speaker 1: the narrative is outside there about the Cowboys hiring dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: You know I heard some people go, oh yeah, let
Speaker 1: me get excited about that. Well, okay, fine, but but
Speaker 1: think about this. The guy has a long resume as
Speaker 1: a defensive line coach. And I read where the Cowboys
Speaker 1: hired him just in time, because that's who Urban Meyer
Speaker 1: wanted to hire as his defensive coordinator in Jacksonville. He
Speaker 1: had circled dan Quinn to be his defensive coordinator, and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys beat him to the punch. So what everybody
Speaker 1: thinks of the great Urban Meyer? You know that that
Speaker 1: was his notion to fill out that spot for himself.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing, speaking of urban Meyer, I
Speaker 1: saw Scott Linahan's name came up as an offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: candidate for that job too. So another guy that the
Speaker 1: narrative out there wasn't very kind to, even though he
Speaker 1: took a rookie quarterback in twenty sixteen at one thirteen games.
Speaker 1: You know, and this whole notion about the Cowboys run
Speaker 1: the ball too much, Well, we keep talking about these playoffs,
Speaker 1: on how successful these teams have been running the football
Speaker 1: during the playoffs, So take that. Hey, what wins championships?
Speaker 1: Obviously defense first of all. But I've learned this year
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Yes, the offensive line can win you championships,
Speaker 1: especially that this year. Never too old to learn something.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that it can turn you into you
Speaker 1: can turn you into six and ten or five and eleven.
Speaker 1: Whatever the hell It ended up real quickly. And then
Speaker 1: another note on a former Cowboy coach, Dan Campbell. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Detroit made it deficient yet, but they
Speaker 1: were supposed to announce that today as hiring him as
Speaker 1: a head coach. Was it such somewhat of an upset
Speaker 1: if you think about it, because all these head coaches
Speaker 1: that are getting hired these days, they're all coordinators, a
Speaker 1: coordinator of offensive, coordinator of defense. And Dan Campbell basically
Speaker 1: was an assistant assistant head coach to Sean Payton and
Speaker 1: the tight ends coach. So uh, that's that's rather remarkable. Okay.
Speaker 1: And then how about do you think Jason Witten would
Speaker 1: be interested in the Tennessee job? Wow, I thought of that.
Speaker 1: I thought of that yesterday when I saw what happened
Speaker 1: to Prim. I would not at all be surprised if
Speaker 1: he's a top candidate. See, I don't know, maybe, and
Speaker 1: I don't want to disregard anyone's talent and ability to inspire,
Speaker 1: But for some reason, I see Witten would inspire high
Speaker 1: school players a whole lot more than he will college players. Well,
Speaker 1: I be in the high school coach here. I remember
Speaker 1: maybe it was a couple of years ago when all
Speaker 1: the notion came up that you know, he that Tennessee
Speaker 1: needs to hire him to him, right, they talked to him,
Speaker 1: And I had said something to somebody uh around here
Speaker 1: that I respect, and and and I said something, Well,
Speaker 1: I think the hardest thing he would have is knowing
Speaker 1: enough people to hire a staff. Uh and and you know,
Speaker 1: without having been in the coaching circles, and I was
Speaker 1: I got looked at like I was cross eyed, and
Speaker 1: was told, don't underestimate Jason Witten and his ability to
Speaker 1: put a staff together. Okay, just like that, I said, Okay,
Speaker 1: so maybe maybe it's a possible. Look, they're gonna need
Speaker 1: they're gonna need a name to uh get through what
Speaker 1: they're getting ready to get through. Right, They're gonna get
Speaker 1: prot on probation. Is that right? He hasn't rest. No,
Speaker 1: That's why I asked the question the way I did.
Speaker 1: I think there's no doubt he would be a candid.
Speaker 1: If they didn't have the recruiting violations and the probation
Speaker 1: they're about to go through, I think there'd be no
Speaker 1: doubt he'd be all over that job. That's why I
Speaker 1: asked the question the way I did. Would he be
Speaker 1: interested in it? Because they are gonna be I mean
Speaker 1: they're already internally they fired the head coach and nine
Speaker 1: assistant coaches. Obviously they did something that's the NCAA is
Speaker 1: going to come down big time on him. So he's
Speaker 1: gonna be Whoever takes that job is going to be
Speaker 1: so far behind the eight ball as far as scholarship
Speaker 1: limitations and so forth, it may just be a no
Speaker 1: win situation for whoever takes that job. I mean, that's that,
Speaker 1: that's not the death penalty, but it's gonna come close,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you, especially in the SEC. Yes, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: They weren't doing anything in the SEC anyway, so they well,
Speaker 1: you know, well what happened, that's right. Well no, if
Speaker 1: you think about it last not this this season, but
Speaker 1: the previous season, they finished like on a six seven
Speaker 1: game winning streak, and they were they were projected to
Speaker 1: top twenty team this year in the polls, and everybody
Speaker 1: was expecting them to win the win the East, and
Speaker 1: they just fell apart, just fell apart big time. All right,
Speaker 1: Well that does it for this edition to Mix Shots.
Speaker 1: We got a lot to discuss next week on mix
Speaker 1: Shots because we will have a Super Bowl matchup and
Speaker 1: our teams are, oh you want us to pick Casey
Speaker 1: K Kansas City and Green Bay and Green Bay, and
Speaker 1: oh you want me to go on the NFC side.
Speaker 1: If I'm going on the NFC side, I gotta go
Speaker 1: with Packers. I gotta go with Aaron Rodgers. All right,
Speaker 1: you got the home teams winning, Mickey, you got the
Speaker 1: home teams winning. Yes, okay, I'll go ahead on the
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Kansas City and Tampa Bay hosting a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Brady versus Holmes and only doing that because
Speaker 1: I want to be different. Oh and and it would
Speaker 1: be the first time in history, right, the team hosting
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl play in it. I'm gonna leave you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave you with one last mix shot. Okay. Uh.
Speaker 1: They kept talking about when Aaron Rodgers ran for a
Speaker 1: touchdown uh in the game, and it was the first
Speaker 1: time a quarterback, a Green Bay Packers quarterback ran for
Speaker 1: a playoff touchdown since nineteen No, no way, no, wait,
Speaker 1: let me let me no, I got it wrong. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the first time since nineteen that the run for a
Speaker 1: touchdown since bart Star ran in Yeah, thank you Fags. Yes,
Speaker 1: we appreciate that, that memory. Yeah, I get chills. I
Speaker 1: get chills right now thinking about that game. Yes, I
Speaker 1: that note. And I've told Bill. I've told Bill the
Speaker 1: story because you know, I grew up a Packers fan,
Speaker 1: right and uh, yeah, we know when they when they
Speaker 1: lighted up, when they lighted up to go for it
Speaker 1: with what was it, thirteen seconds left in no timeouts,
Speaker 1: and I'm yelling at my dad. I'm going, what's he doing?
Speaker 1: He's got to kick a field goal. If he doesn't
Speaker 1: get in the games over, they're gonna lose a little,
Speaker 1: did I know? Or as Tex said dying, Bob really
Speaker 1: couldn't get any footing. Yeah, as text Ram said to
Speaker 1: his dying day, he said, the worst call a coach
Speaker 1: has ever made in the history of the NFL to
Speaker 1: go for it in that situation. Well, hey, maybe if
Speaker 1: it's not a bad call, if it works, that's right,
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. All right. That does it for mix
Speaker 1: Shots for a Tuesday the nineteenth today, I believe it's nineteen.
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Speaker 1: Bowl edition of Shots. It's all end in the Senior
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