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Speaker 2: Antonio Gibson coming off a down season, is eightyp's down.
Speaker 2: Everybody sour on him. But we've got an angle.
Speaker 1: A great angle.
Speaker 2: Pretty it sounds pretty convincing. We'll got an angle for
Speaker 2: Antonio Gibson to be a fantasy producer for your team.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the RB twenty eight in average points
Speaker 1: per game and just season long totals last season. Currently
Speaker 1: going off the board, it's RB thirty eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so down people are expecting a worst season this year,
Speaker 2: and undoubtedly part of it has to do with the
Speaker 2: run game that just didn't come together at all last
Speaker 2: season for Antonio Gibson.
Speaker 1: I think why people thought he was going to be
Speaker 1: a good runner kind of coming out of college and
Speaker 1: seeing him after that first year he did a ninety
Speaker 1: ninth percentile speed score at coming out of college, he
Speaker 1: have ran a four to three nine forty at two
Speaker 1: hundred and eight pounds, which is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: That is, to carry two and twenty eight pounds to
Speaker 2: running four to three nine is sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why people liked him because he was
Speaker 1: a receiver coming out of college, and they saw this
Speaker 1: big frame, they saw this speed. It was every kind
Speaker 1: of checked, all those those check mark boxes that you
Speaker 1: want checked. Yeah, And the problem was is he's not
Speaker 1: a great runner. That's there's the now. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So let me give you some stats to back that up.
Speaker 2: Antonio Gibson was Pro Football Focuses forty eighth ranked runner.
Speaker 2: You'll note there's thirty two NFL teams, so that's not good.
Speaker 2: He was running back ninety nine in yards after contact.
Speaker 2: That's you can't do that as a running back in
Speaker 2: the league. You wouldn't have to be able to get
Speaker 2: out of contact. Next Gen Stats ranked, Antonio Gibson is
Speaker 2: the seventh worst rushing over expectation running back. In fact,
Speaker 2: he was under expectation negative point one five yards and
Speaker 2: everybody else. The other six players that were worse than him,
Speaker 2: every one of them free agents, are backups. He was
Speaker 2: running back fifty five in elusiveness, something he had been
Speaker 2: better at earlier in his career. Tonio Gibson's it has
Speaker 2: not come together as a runner. But we've got an angle.
Speaker 1: First, is he's a great receiving back. And Eric b
Speaker 1: Enemy obviously the offense coordinator coming over from the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: I think is going to kind of use him in
Speaker 1: a way that we haven't seen him be used yet
Speaker 1: in his career. So, first off, last season, he was
Speaker 1: number twelve in targets, fifty eight among running backs yep,
Speaker 1: number thirteen in receptions he had forty six, and he
Speaker 1: was also number thirteenth in receiving yards and number nine
Speaker 1: in yards per route run.
Speaker 2: All those numbers between nine and his ranking was between
Speaker 2: nine and thirteen among running backs and these receiving stats,
Speaker 2: it doesn't sound great, but also keep in mind he
Speaker 2: was not even on the field all that much, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, Brian Robinson was a lot of first and
Speaker 2: second down. Gibson was like second and third down. So
Speaker 2: you know, there's I think there's an opportunity for him
Speaker 2: to be on the field more potentially this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think Ron Rivera had a quote a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. He said, quote, I'd like to
Speaker 1: see Antonio get a few more tries where you're looking
Speaker 1: for production from him and looking to see that he
Speaker 1: does fit into the scheme of things as far as
Speaker 1: what Eric b Enemy wants to do with the offense.
Speaker 1: End quote and he was not asked about Gibson when
Speaker 1: he gave his quote. He was actually asked about Chris Rodriguez. Okay,
Speaker 1: who That's what the reporter asked him about, and he
Speaker 1: went out of his.
Speaker 2: Way diverted the conversation to think.
Speaker 1: About Gibson, which is just something that fantasy managers love
Speaker 1: to do because they'll pull any quote they can get
Speaker 1: out in May and turn it into a big thing.
Speaker 2: So the hope here is that Eric Benemy is going
Speaker 2: to convert Gibson to a true pass catching running back
Speaker 2: and use him prodigiously that way. It's like a James
Speaker 2: White and it could go down that direction, or as
Speaker 2: a more recent example in Washington, Jad McKissick, you know,
Speaker 2: we're were two or three years removed from him having
Speaker 2: a big receiving season, and maybe Antonio Gibson is a
Speaker 2: pure pass catcher, can end up being a guy that
Speaker 2: gives you like three carries for twelve yards, but four
Speaker 2: receptions a game for forty yards. And now I've cobbled
Speaker 2: my way to like, you know, nine ten, you know,
Speaker 2: fantasy points.
Speaker 1: Well, he's certainly only the pass catcher on this team.
Speaker 1: Speaking of j. D McKissick, Jamie Kisson had forty targets
Speaker 1: last season and Gibson had fifty eight, so it was
Speaker 1: about about fifty to fifty. But Jady McKissick is gone now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so all that stuff has gone. He's free agent. Ryan Robinson.
Speaker 1: He's not a bass catcher, He's just not.
Speaker 2: We know this.
Speaker 1: Chris Rodriguez had five receptions season in college, so he's
Speaker 1: also not a pass catch, right, and then Jonathan Williams
Speaker 1: also not a pass catcher. And m if we're going
Speaker 1: to make the comparison between McKinnon and Gibson, McKinnon ranked
Speaker 1: eighth in targets among running backs last season and Washington
Speaker 1: as a team ranked ninth in target running back targets
Speaker 1: last season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've seen a pre election, or at least
Speaker 2: for the former offense. Right, Eric Bannemy's going to change
Speaker 2: up a bunch of things. But we know Biennemy likes
Speaker 2: to throw to his backs. Did it up with jerck
Speaker 2: McKinnon to a lesser extent with Clyde Edwards Hilaire, although
Speaker 2: they should have thrown to him a lot more. I
Speaker 2: thought Clyde Edwards Laiir is gonna catch, you know, like
Speaker 2: forty five passes a season. I don't think he ever
Speaker 2: get close to that. So in my mind, where I'm
Speaker 2: ranking Antonio Gibson is as a pure pass catching back
Speaker 2: and if I get any running numbers, that's just a bonus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think I'm kind of ranking him as
Speaker 1: that way too. It's just is he going to be
Speaker 1: one of like the top three or top five best
Speaker 1: pass catching backs?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, no that I don't think he can get
Speaker 2: there because I don't think he's gonna be on the
Speaker 2: field enough compared to Saquon Barkley and Austin Eckler, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Christian McCaffrey. Mean, those guys are
Speaker 2: on the field constantly and they get thrown to all
Speaker 2: the time. I think Tony poll could be sitting on
Speaker 2: a nice PPR season as well, But I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of unknown with this. But there's the
Speaker 2: other factor with Antonio Gibson that you just have to
Speaker 2: factor in for a second. Ryan Robinson did not look
Speaker 2: good in any aspect of the game, did not look
Speaker 2: great as a runner, and he and he doesn't catch.
Speaker 1: He was also dealing with some gunshot wounds.
Speaker 2: Probably okay, but you know, that's all right, I'll grant
Speaker 2: him that for the first two months of the season,
Speaker 2: But what's that after that? He still didn't look particularly
Speaker 2: good to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. There's just something about like the
Speaker 1: Washington like run game. I can't It just always seems
Speaker 1: like it's always so like clunky. It doesn't really seem
Speaker 1: like there's anyone like always. I don't know. It just
Speaker 1: I never who was the last great Washington pure like
Speaker 1: running back, like first and down guy Alfred Morris and
Speaker 1: then his Workie year. I honestly, is there another one?
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson at the end of his career right a
Speaker 1: didn't like a nine yard run on Monday Night football?
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, as a Redskin. But it's just I
Speaker 1: don't understand. I don't I don't really Just Brian Robinson's
Speaker 1: gonna be like the eight other guys before him. Who
Speaker 1: it's just gonna He's gonna I don't know. He might
Speaker 1: get some nice goal line work, but that's pretty much.
Speaker 2: In a deep wide running back draft. Why didn't Washington
Speaker 2: draft or running back?
Speaker 1: Did draft Chris Rodriguez?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Who they? Who they are?
Speaker 2: Running?
Speaker 1: The apparently had a like a third round third round
Speaker 1: great on, So.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe that's the angle here is Chris Rodriguez and
Speaker 2: I don't know it, but yeah, all right, let's let's
Speaker 2: talk about some of the guys going around running back
Speaker 2: thirty six, which is where where we're said thirty six,
Speaker 2: thirty eight round? Running back thirty eight, where Antonio Gibson's going?
Speaker 1: All right, Samaji p Ryan currently the RB thirty four.
Speaker 2: I thought Pteran looked just okay last year when Joe
Speaker 2: Mixon was kind of floundering and Pteran could have grabbed
Speaker 2: that job in Cincinnati, didn't do it. He can catch
Speaker 2: a little bit. By all accounts, Davante Williams is on
Speaker 2: track to come back, maybe earlier than hoped. I think
Speaker 2: I would go p Ryan and hope that if nothing else,
Speaker 2: I've got half of a shared backfield.
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook also on Broncos Watch as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on Broncos Watch. The connection to George Peyton,
Speaker 2: the general now general manager of the Broncos, who was
Speaker 2: basically the assistant general manager when Dalvin Cook was drafted. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that would be interesting landing spot.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tak Gibson over Pete Run. I think be
Speaker 1: run yet. I having a little bit more of an
Speaker 1: expanded role when when if Javonte Williams were to miss
Speaker 1: some time. But I just like Gibson season long kind
Speaker 1: of receiving profile. Especially this is to note if we're
Speaker 1: talking like half point PPR or just full point PPR. Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely going to be Gibson. And I'm not taking him
Speaker 1: over p Ryan standard league, So everything I'm talking about
Speaker 1: is kind of in at least some sort of a
Speaker 1: PPR setting. So I'm gonna take Pete Rymet RB thirty
Speaker 1: five Brian Robinson.
Speaker 2: I just told you I thought he looked totally mundane
Speaker 2: last year. Yeah. The catch here is year two. Some
Speaker 2: running backs get a lot better in year two, and
Speaker 2: so I'm not writing off Brian Robinson. I think he'll
Speaker 2: take Brian Robinson and I'll try for touchdowns and you know,
Speaker 2: because at the goal line that he's as good an
Speaker 2: option as they've got. So I'll take Brian Robinson. He
Speaker 2: I hope he gets better.
Speaker 1: I'll go Gibson. I Gibson in this backfield more I drafted.
Speaker 1: I've been drafting Gibson over Robinson every chance I've been
Speaker 1: able to, So I'm gonna keep going with Gibson. Okay,
Speaker 1: Devin ah Chane RB thirty six.
Speaker 2: I'll take the upside that I get out of a
Speaker 2: Chane's game breaking ability and just hope that they're not
Speaker 2: going to use a frustrating rotation of runners, which they
Speaker 2: might in Miami.
Speaker 1: A Chane also sounds like kind of like a guy
Speaker 1: who's gonna catch passes this season. He can catch, and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say most of Jeff Wilson really haven't either.
Speaker 2: He's the best receiving running back the guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and a team that loves to pass the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll go a change just because I love the speed.
Speaker 1: I'm a speed, big speed guy.
Speaker 2: How's that worked out for Antonio Gibson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm still on Antonio Gibson, just not more
Speaker 1: than a change because uh, I watched a Chane's highlights
Speaker 1: on just because everyone's talking about the size thing, but
Speaker 1: he didn't. You if you plays bigger than, it's way
Speaker 1: bigger than everyone just wants to It's it's such a
Speaker 1: kind of low hanging fruit. Oh he's small. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna be a work horse in the NFL. No, he
Speaker 1: might not be a work horse, but he can still
Speaker 1: be a very versatile weapon in a Mike McDaniel off.
Speaker 1: If he was like in like in Washington, he's a watchtep.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't touch him because he's in Miami. I like it.
Speaker 1: I like a chain.
Speaker 2: But I hear you.
Speaker 1: Let's do one more guy, all right, Rashad Penny RB
Speaker 1: thirty seven.
Speaker 2: H Well, you know the bit on Penny, right, So
Speaker 2: even if Penny stays healthy all year, they have so
Speaker 2: many alternatives at running back and I just I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm not I can't get myself to support Penny. And
Speaker 2: even if he has a good start to the season
Speaker 2: and he's healthy and every any game could be his last,
Speaker 2: and then they've got this crowded backfield. You know, you
Speaker 2: get DeAndre Swift and Kenneth Gainwell, and you know Hurston
Speaker 2: Scott and Jayleen Hurts stealing all your touchdowns from inside
Speaker 2: the five. So I'm out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was not interested in, not interested in Rashad
Speaker 1: Pibson for me.
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