WEBVTT - FFW Micro - Antonio Gibson

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<v Speaker 2>at Paul Charchion on Twitter. Uh, we're gonna dive into

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<v Speaker 2>Antonio Gibson coming off a down season, is eightyp's down.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody sour on him. But we've got an angle.

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<v Speaker 1>A great angle.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty it sounds pretty convincing. We'll got an angle for

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<v Speaker 2>Antonio Gibson to be a fantasy producer for your team.

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<v Speaker 2>team guillotine league as well. All right, let's talk Antonio Gibson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was the RB twenty eight in average points

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<v Speaker 1>per game and just season long totals last season. Currently

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<v Speaker 1>going off the board, it's RB thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so down people are expecting a worst season this year,

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<v Speaker 2>and undoubtedly part of it has to do with the

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<v Speaker 2>run game that just didn't come together at all last

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<v Speaker 2>season for Antonio Gibson.

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<v Speaker 1>I think why people thought he was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a good runner kind of coming out of college and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing him after that first year he did a ninety

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<v Speaker 1>ninth percentile speed score at coming out of college, he

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<v Speaker 1>have ran a four to three nine forty at two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eight pounds, which is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, to carry two and twenty eight pounds to

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<v Speaker 2>running four to three nine is sick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's why people liked him because he was

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<v Speaker 1>a receiver coming out of college, and they saw this

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<v Speaker 1>big frame, they saw this speed. It was every kind

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<v Speaker 1>of checked, all those those check mark boxes that you

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<v Speaker 1>want checked. Yeah, And the problem was is he's not

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<v Speaker 1>a great runner. That's there's the now. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me give you some stats to back that up.

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<v Speaker 2>Antonio Gibson was Pro Football Focuses forty eighth ranked runner.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll note there's thirty two NFL teams, so that's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>He was running back ninety nine in yards after contact.

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<v Speaker 2>That's you can't do that as a running back in

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<v Speaker 2>the league. You wouldn't have to be able to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of contact. Next Gen Stats ranked, Antonio Gibson is

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<v Speaker 2>the seventh worst rushing over expectation running back. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>he was under expectation negative point one five yards and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else. The other six players that were worse than him,

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<v Speaker 2>every one of them free agents, are backups. He was

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<v Speaker 2>running back fifty five in elusiveness, something he had been

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<v Speaker 2>better at earlier in his career. Tonio Gibson's it has

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<v Speaker 2>not come together as a runner. But we've got an angle.

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<v Speaker 1>First, is he's a great receiving back. And Eric b

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<v Speaker 1>Enemy obviously the offense coordinator coming over from the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is going to kind of use him in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that we haven't seen him be used yet

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<v Speaker 1>in his career. So, first off, last season, he was

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<v Speaker 1>number twelve in targets, fifty eight among running backs yep,

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<v Speaker 1>number thirteen in receptions he had forty six, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was also number thirteenth in receiving yards and number nine

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<v Speaker 1>in yards per route run.

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<v Speaker 2>All those numbers between nine and his ranking was between

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<v Speaker 2>nine and thirteen among running backs and these receiving stats,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't sound great, but also keep in mind he

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<v Speaker 2>was not even on the field all that much, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Brian Robinson was a lot of first and

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<v Speaker 2>second down. Gibson was like second and third down. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's I think there's an opportunity for him

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<v Speaker 2>to be on the field more potentially this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think Ron Rivera had a quote a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago. He said, quote, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>see Antonio get a few more tries where you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>for production from him and looking to see that he

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<v Speaker 1>does fit into the scheme of things as far as

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<v Speaker 1>what Eric b Enemy wants to do with the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>End quote and he was not asked about Gibson when

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<v Speaker 1>he gave his quote. He was actually asked about Chris Rodriguez. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who That's what the reporter asked him about, and he

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<v Speaker 1>went out of his.

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<v Speaker 2>Way diverted the conversation to think.

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<v Speaker 1>About Gibson, which is just something that fantasy managers love

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<v Speaker 1>to do because they'll pull any quote they can get

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<v Speaker 1>out in May and turn it into a big thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So the hope here is that Eric Benemy is going

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<v Speaker 2>to convert Gibson to a true pass catching running back

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<v Speaker 2>and use him prodigiously that way. It's like a James

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<v Speaker 2>White and it could go down that direction, or as

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<v Speaker 2>a more recent example in Washington, Jad McKissick, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're were two or three years removed from him having

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<v Speaker 2>a big receiving season, and maybe Antonio Gibson is a

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<v Speaker 2>pure pass catcher, can end up being a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>gives you like three carries for twelve yards, but four

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<v Speaker 2>receptions a game for forty yards. And now I've cobbled

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<v Speaker 2>my way to like, you know, nine ten, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fantasy points.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he's certainly only the pass catcher on this team.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of j. D McKissick, Jamie Kisson had forty targets

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<v Speaker 1>last season and Gibson had fifty eight, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>about about fifty to fifty. But Jady McKissick is gone now, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so all that stuff has gone. He's free agent. Ryan Robinson.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a bass catcher, He's just not.

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<v Speaker 2>We know this.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Rodriguez had five receptions season in college, so he's

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<v Speaker 1>also not a pass catch, right, and then Jonathan Williams

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<v Speaker 1>also not a pass catcher. And m if we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to make the comparison between McKinnon and Gibson, McKinnon ranked

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<v Speaker 1>eighth in targets among running backs last season and Washington

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<v Speaker 1>as a team ranked ninth in target running back targets

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<v Speaker 1>last season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we've seen a pre election, or at least

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<v Speaker 2>for the former offense. Right, Eric Bannemy's going to change

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<v Speaker 2>up a bunch of things. But we know Biennemy likes

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<v Speaker 2>to throw to his backs. Did it up with jerck

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<v Speaker 2>McKinnon to a lesser extent with Clyde Edwards Hilaire, although

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<v Speaker 2>they should have thrown to him a lot more. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought Clyde Edwards Laiir is gonna catch, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>forty five passes a season. I don't think he ever

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<v Speaker 2>get close to that. So in my mind, where I'm

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<v Speaker 2>ranking Antonio Gibson is as a pure pass catching back

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<v Speaker 2>and if I get any running numbers, that's just a bonus.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think I'm kind of ranking him as

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<v Speaker 1>that way too. It's just is he going to be

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<v Speaker 1>one of like the top three or top five best

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<v Speaker 1>pass catching backs?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, no that I don't think he can get

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<v Speaker 2>there because I don't think he's gonna be on the

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<v Speaker 2>field enough compared to Saquon Barkley and Austin Eckler, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, Christian McCaffrey. Mean, those guys are

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<v Speaker 2>on the field constantly and they get thrown to all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. I think Tony poll could be sitting on

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<v Speaker 2>a nice PPR season as well, But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of unknown with this. But there's the

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<v Speaker 2>other factor with Antonio Gibson that you just have to

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<v Speaker 2>factor in for a second. Ryan Robinson did not look

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<v Speaker 2>good in any aspect of the game, did not look

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<v Speaker 2>great as a runner, and he and he doesn't catch.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also dealing with some gunshot wounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably okay, but you know, that's all right, I'll grant

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<v Speaker 2>him that for the first two months of the season,

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<v Speaker 2>But what's that after that? He still didn't look particularly

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<v Speaker 2>good to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. There's just something about like the

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<v Speaker 1>Washington like run game. I can't It just always seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it's always so like clunky. It doesn't really seem

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<v Speaker 1>like there's anyone like always. I don't know. It just

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<v Speaker 1>I never who was the last great Washington pure like

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<v Speaker 1>running back, like first and down guy Alfred Morris and

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<v Speaker 1>then his Workie year. I honestly, is there another one?

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<v Speaker 1>Adrian Peterson at the end of his career right a

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like a nine yard run on Monday Night football?

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, as a Redskin. But it's just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand. I don't I don't really Just Brian Robinson's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be like the eight other guys before him. Who

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<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna He's gonna I don't know. He might

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<v Speaker 1>get some nice goal line work, but that's pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>In a deep wide running back draft. Why didn't Washington

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<v Speaker 2>draft or running back?

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<v Speaker 1>Did draft Chris Rodriguez?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Who they? Who they are?

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<v Speaker 2>Running?

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<v Speaker 1>The apparently had a like a third round third round

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<v Speaker 1>great on, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, maybe that's the angle here is Chris Rodriguez and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know it, but yeah, all right, let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about some of the guys going around running back

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six, which is where where we're said thirty six,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight round? Running back thirty eight, where Antonio Gibson's going?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Samaji p Ryan currently the RB thirty four.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Pteran looked just okay last year when Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Mixon was kind of floundering and Pteran could have grabbed

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<v Speaker 2>that job in Cincinnati, didn't do it. He can catch

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. By all accounts, Davante Williams is on

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<v Speaker 2>track to come back, maybe earlier than hoped. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I would go p Ryan and hope that if nothing else,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got half of a shared backfield.

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<v Speaker 1>Dalvin Cook also on Broncos Watch as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was on Broncos Watch. The connection to George Peyton,

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<v Speaker 2>the general now general manager of the Broncos, who was

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<v Speaker 2>basically the assistant general manager when Dalvin Cook was drafted. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that would be interesting landing spot.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tak Gibson over Pete Run. I think be

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<v Speaker 1>run yet. I having a little bit more of an

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<v Speaker 1>expanded role when when if Javonte Williams were to miss

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<v Speaker 1>some time. But I just like Gibson season long kind

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<v Speaker 1>of receiving profile. Especially this is to note if we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking like half point PPR or just full point PPR. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely going to be Gibson. And I'm not taking him

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<v Speaker 1>over p Ryan standard league, So everything I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of in at least some sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>PPR setting. So I'm gonna take Pete Rymet RB thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five Brian Robinson.

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<v Speaker 2>I just told you I thought he looked totally mundane

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<v Speaker 2>last year. Yeah. The catch here is year two. Some

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<v Speaker 2>running backs get a lot better in year two, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm not writing off Brian Robinson. I think he'll

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<v Speaker 2>take Brian Robinson and I'll try for touchdowns and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because at the goal line that he's as good an

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<v Speaker 2>option as they've got. So I'll take Brian Robinson. He

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<v Speaker 2>I hope he gets better.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go Gibson. I Gibson in this backfield more I drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been drafting Gibson over Robinson every chance I've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to, So I'm gonna keep going with Gibson. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Devin ah Chane RB thirty six.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take the upside that I get out of a

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<v Speaker 2>Chane's game breaking ability and just hope that they're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to use a frustrating rotation of runners, which they

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<v Speaker 2>might in Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>A Chane also sounds like kind of like a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's gonna catch passes this season. He can catch, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say most of Jeff Wilson really haven't either.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the best receiving running back the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, and a team that loves to pass the ball. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go a change just because I love the speed.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a speed, big speed guy.

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<v Speaker 2>How's that worked out for Antonio Gibson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm still on Antonio Gibson, just not more

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<v Speaker 1>than a change because uh, I watched a Chane's highlights

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<v Speaker 1>on just because everyone's talking about the size thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't. You if you plays bigger than, it's way

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than everyone just wants to It's it's such a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of low hanging fruit. Oh he's small. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a work horse in the NFL. No, he

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<v Speaker 1>might not be a work horse, but he can still

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<v Speaker 1>be a very versatile weapon in a Mike McDaniel off.

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<v Speaker 1>If he was like in like in Washington, he's a watchtep.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't touch him because he's in Miami. I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like a chain.

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<v Speaker 2>But I hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do one more guy, all right, Rashad Penny RB

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>H Well, you know the bit on Penny, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>even if Penny stays healthy all year, they have so

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<v Speaker 2>many alternatives at running back and I just I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I can't get myself to support Penny. And

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<v Speaker 2>even if he has a good start to the season

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<v Speaker 2>and he's healthy and every any game could be his last,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they've got this crowded backfield. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>get DeAndre Swift and Kenneth Gainwell, and you know Hurston

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<v Speaker 2>Scott and Jayleen Hurts stealing all your touchdowns from inside

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<v Speaker 2>the five. So I'm out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was not interested in, not interested in Rashad

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<v Speaker 1>Pibson for me.

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