1 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Between the Horns, presented by your Southern 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: California Toyota Dealers. I'm feeling so stoked be sitting next 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: to this crew. We've got JV Long and DeMarco far 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm Cameron Irwin and man going over there. I know 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: rehearsal were resting one. I'll be happy to be the 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: fourth man in this. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Cameron take the wheel. 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: Yes, coming off the win against the Indianapolis Colts with 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: a quick turnaround short week, we've got the none other 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: forty nine ers coming into the Rams House. Before we 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: get into this, though, I feel like we got to 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: look back and celebrate the noise, the octave that was 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: hitting Sofi Stadium just a few days ago. 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: It was superb, super loud in there. Rams fans should 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 3: be proud. And I was saying this to the fans 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: that were there early in the game. I said, you know, 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: the louder you get, the better Jared Verse and company 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: will play. Uh, you are a part of this as well, 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: and they played like Gangbusters. So it was super loud 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 3: down there. It was a very physical football game. It 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: was a heck of a win. But you have to 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: put all that aside because this is the only week 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: that matters, you know how I feel. 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: But you're saying that for Jared to attack the center 25 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 2: the way that he did, Yes, that only happened when 26 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 2: you're in your home environment, when you. 27 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 3: Have crowd noise. This is like we said what you 28 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: did versus Philly, not to bring up old things. It 29 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: was the worst environment for you. They weren't for you. You're 30 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 3: on grass, you go home, you've got crowd noise on 31 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: your surface. You should get off. And that's exactly what 32 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: you saw. The crowd brought it. They brought it. Let's 33 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 3: keep bringing it o camera. 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: My family, my friends, our guests, they all said that 35 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: was one of the loudest game day environments they had 36 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: been a part of. You're down there on the field. 37 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: Was that true to you too? 38 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 4: Without question? Yeah. 39 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: At one point, actually I have to wear double in 40 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: ears because it's so loud, and it didn't do enough 41 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: last week, and it was incredible. At one point I 42 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: took it out and I'm like, is this for real? 43 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: Like it was astonishing down there and it gave meat chills, 44 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: especially in the fourth quarter. You're sitting there going, oh, 45 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: this is what a home crowd environment feels. 46 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 4: Like, and it really paid dividends. 47 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: Say, the standard is the standard now, right, that's what 48 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: they gave us. That's what we're expecting now every week. 49 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 5: There you go, yes, sir, love it well. 50 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: Heading into week five a couple things. Shout outs to 51 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: the offense and defensive side of the ball. Rams heading 52 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: with the highest graded offense into week five and the 53 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: second highest graded defense into week five. I mean, this 54 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: team is looking pretty solid. 55 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 5: Wow. 56 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: I didn't know that the offense has gone up to 57 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: second highest rated offense in the league. 58 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 5: Wow. First defense is second man. 59 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: Well, I guess through. I look at things through a 60 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: defensive lens first and foremost, and to see them get 61 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 3: better week end and week out, and the communication is 62 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: getting the tackling was outstanding. That's the one thing. The 63 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: mark of a good defense is pursuit and tackling. When 64 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: you turn on that tape and you watch when there's 65 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: all out pursuit and when you stop it at the 66 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: end of the play, you'll see at least ten rams 67 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: surrounding the football within a yard and a half of it. 68 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: That's pursuit and they're all getting guys on the ground. 69 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 3: And then when it comes time to rush the passer. 70 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 3: They've got guys that can flat out. Just when Byron 71 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: Young is having a great year, Jared Versu is the 72 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: most physical edge player in the league, and he's turning 73 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: into one of the best down. 74 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 5: Linemen in the league. He can line up anywhere. 75 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: So when you see those guys continue to get better, 76 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: no shock that you're going to go up in the rankings. 77 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: Was pursuit the word that I just heard you use, pursuit. 78 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: How about Byron Young? I felt like I was watching 79 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: National Geographic the way that he changed Daniel. 80 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 3: Yes day, oh man. I mean, look, okay, it was 81 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: the read that was phenomenal. 82 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 5: The speed. 83 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: We all know that he can run, since he was drafted. 84 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: We knew the guy could run. It was the read 85 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: and react. I know what you're doing. I've seen this 86 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: before and I'm going to beat you to the spot. 87 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 5: Daniel Jones can run and he flat got run down. 88 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: So when you start seeing that stuff as an OC, okay, well, 89 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: we can't run this against this guy and unless we 90 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: set it up perfectly. So watching him get better is 91 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: like a microcosm for the rest of the defense. They 92 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: are growing up and they are ready for primetime. 93 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: I mean I just appreciate so much the physical sacrifice 94 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: that a lot of these guys are making, especially on 95 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: a short week. I think of two names in particular, 96 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: Jared Vers I think, dislocated a finger on his way 97 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 2: to stripsacking Daniel Jones to help the Rams clinch that 98 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: pop that thing back in there and was back out 99 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: there for the next rep. And we're to the point 100 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: with Puka Nakoua now where the game almost doesn't start 101 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: until he makes his first trip to the locker room 102 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: and comes back bigger, faster, and stronger. This weekend, I mean, 103 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: it is incredible, and I just I cannot articulate how 104 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: much I admire it and respect it. And yeah, the 105 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 2: Rams could very well be four and oh, but I 106 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: think three and oh is a very fair representation of 107 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 2: the way they played so far, and the opportunity in 108 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: front of them this week makes the hair on the 109 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: back of my next stand up Like it seems like 110 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: every time the Niners in the Rams get together, LA 111 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: has a chance to throw a little bit of dirt 112 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: on a fragile forty nine Ers team, and they're banged 113 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: up now and they're coming off their first loss of 114 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: the season. I also know that the schedule they have 115 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: is the easiest in the National Football League. So if 116 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: you let them get out of your place with a win, 117 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: they would be three and oh. Against the division they 118 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: be four and one. Overall, you cannot let that happen. 119 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: And that's kind of the backdrop that I take into 120 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: this Thursday night. 121 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 3: I love his mentality. See it's everything. I don't care 122 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: how banged up they are. They're still great to me 123 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: until you beat them. 124 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 4: Without question. 125 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 1: I was going to say there is still danger anytime 126 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: you face the San Francisco forty nine ers, But thinking 127 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: on verse two, a season high six pressures, this is 128 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: what's wild, three of which came in under two. 129 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 4: And a half seconds. That's just how quick you was moving. 130 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 131 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 3: I love the thing which you said about the finger 132 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: being popped back in because as it's happening, he's giving 133 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: his hand to the training staff to like, hey, fix 134 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 3: this thing, and he's continuing to watch what's going on 135 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: in the field. Are you done? Can I go back? 136 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 5: Yes? Dude, I mean that's taking it to a whole 137 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 5: new level. 138 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some things that he needs to work out 139 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: discipline wise, But we said the same thing about another 140 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 3: certain someone that used to play here, we're number ninety nine. 141 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 2: He earned the right to freelance. 142 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 5: Production equal tolerance. 143 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: So, I mean, he's got some of the best instincts 144 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: that we've seen, and he's absolutely physical as a player. 145 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: And the head to head with Trent Williams, yeah, one 146 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: of those matchups in professional football that I would pay 147 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: to see in person because it's not gonna last forever. 148 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: But this is another iteration of it, and it's gonna 149 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: be everything it's hyped up to do. 150 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 5: I'm so glad you said that. 151 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: So like the forty nine ers, and most of the 152 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: talk this week is who's not there, but let's talk 153 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 3: about who is. 154 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 5: He is one of the best. He's still that guy. 155 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 3: So when I give Jared Vers props for being physical, well, 156 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: this is the other guy. His punch is second to none. 157 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 3: If he gets those paws on you, you're going to 158 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: react and it's not gonna feel good. So and for 159 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: a guy like Josiah Stewart, if you want to get 160 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: to where these other two guys are, this is what 161 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: they had to go through. You're gonna have to go through, 162 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 3: you know what to get to them. So when you 163 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: do load up and this is what every team has 164 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: done to stop McCaffrey, and you force brock Purty or 165 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 3: whoever's back there to throw the football. Yeah, I mean 166 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 3: that's a win for the defense, but you still got 167 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: to get around him. 168 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 5: You still have to get around one of the best 169 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 5: in the business. 170 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: Over under one and a half penalties in the offensive 171 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: tackles for San Francisco this Thursday night. Some combination of 172 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: false start and holding. That's what I'm gonna have my 173 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: eye on. Much pressure can you put on them as 174 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: pass blockers, as pass protectors in your home stadium? 175 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: You know, if if the Rams crowd and those edge 176 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: rushers force a false start, I may break character and 177 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: clap two. 178 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 5: I mean that that says a lot. 179 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: But holding almost to guarantee, with the way they're playing, 180 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: they're gonna have to reach out and grab one of 181 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:38,559 Speaker 3: those guys. 182 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 4: I love it. 183 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: You guys are already unveiling with the forty nine ers matchup. 184 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: I feel like, do we take some time to at 185 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: least relive a little bit of Sunday before we look ahead. 186 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: Welcome to your first between the horns, and we don't 187 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: stick to the script anymore. Yeah, at this point I 188 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: will respect, the fact that the paper is in your 189 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: hand this week and I'm playing left handed. 190 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 4: Yes, I love it, I obviously love it. 191 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: I just feel like we have to give credit where 192 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: credit is due, and that's none other to Matthew Stafford. 193 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: Just another impressive fourth quarter comeback, his thirty ninth of 194 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: his career. You saw him three touchdowns, zero exceptions, a 195 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: QBR of one twenty three ish. 196 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: Just an impressive plan. 197 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: To think he only had four passing yards in the 198 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: third quarter and still came away with three hundred and 199 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: seventy five yards. Just how clutch was Stafford on Sunday? 200 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 5: Super clutch. 201 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: You know that's the not to before we get heap 202 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: on the praise, and he deserves all praise. He makes 203 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: game days so much easier, He makes Saturdays and Wednesdays 204 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 3: so much easier. You know, having a guy like that 205 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: on your football team, how special he is. But I 206 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: just I don't know what happened in that third quarter. 207 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: We were talking about it during the game, like, how 208 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: did everything just all of a sudden come to a halt. 209 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: Thank players in both directions, yeah. 210 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: Both directions, right. It was just a weird thing. But 211 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: when it matters most, when you need a play. If 212 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: you give him too much time, same thing you say 213 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 3: about Mahomes or all the greatest quarterbacks in this league. 214 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 3: If you give Stafford enough time to beat you, he's 215 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: going to. Yeah, if you challenge him or talk trash 216 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: to the wrong guy, him in particular, he's going to 217 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: make you pay. He is as petty as any of 218 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: the great quarterbacks you've ever seen, and he's got arm 219 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: talent like you wouldn't believe. So played his butt off, 220 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: and I thought what he did against Lot too. You 221 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: may not talk about it. You can say that he 222 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: had a great game, but he did not let lot 223 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: to the fact that he was winning derail him. Okay, 224 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 3: you win here, I step here, you win there, I 225 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 3: step here. You may be winning, you may be in 226 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: on me, but you're not getting sacks. You're waisting rushes. 227 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: That is the most frustrating thing in the world. It 228 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: drives you crazy as a pass rusher. I'm winning, I'm winning, 229 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: I'm winning, and I've got almost nothing to show for it. 230 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 5: It just burns you up. 231 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: I'm humble enough to know that no one would ever 232 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: want to clone me. But if that were to ever happen, 233 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: I hope that JB two point zero is everything that 234 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford two point zero has been so far this 235 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: season for the Los Angeles Rams. He is the best 236 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: corres back in the league through a month against pressure. 237 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: He's the best deep ball thrower in the league after 238 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: the month of September. And it's way too early for 239 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: individual award conversations on both sides of the ball. H 240 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: But if he has a Thursday night, like I know 241 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: he's capable of I'm gonna be back in this seat 242 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: or maybe that one next week saying some pretty crazy 243 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: things about Matthew Stafford. 244 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 5: Will promise you that three letters in particular. 245 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, without question. 246 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: He's actually on pace to end the season in the 247 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: top five career passing yards category. 248 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 4: That might just seal the deal. 249 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, But throw all the numbers out, like yeah, 250 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: that was his longest touchdown pass to two two and 251 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: three seventy five was his most prolific passing game as 252 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: a Ram. But like, watch miked up, right, watch miked up. 253 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: Forget all the numbers, watch miked up. That's why that 254 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: guy's going to careful. 255 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 5: Who you talk to. You know, who you talk trash to? 256 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 5: He is him. He is he is that guy, Yes. 257 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: Sir, another he is him coming out of this game 258 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: and actually throughout the season. Pokakua, and congratulations, Pookakua just 259 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: named the NFC off a Player of the Week and 260 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: not surprising, he had over one hundred yards before he 261 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: even got to half time. Like you want to talk 262 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: about some numbers for this guy leading the NFL and 263 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: receiving yards, receptions, yards per game. It just goes on 264 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: and on. But I want to go back to just 265 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: the competitive fire. I think you can see it with 266 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: certain athletes when you simply decide I am not losing 267 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: this game. And I feel like you saw that switch 268 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: skip flip for Puka Nakua. You think back to that 269 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: third and thirteen and then the fourth and two touchdown play, 270 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: he simply decided we're winning this game. 271 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: The touchdown to me is what stands out. I mean 272 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: a lot of things stand out with him. He is 273 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: he's such a hammer, and there's so many things you 274 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: can do with him, and you've got problems before and 275 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: after the catch, and a physical price to pay when 276 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: you're bearing down on him. You know, depending on if 277 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: you're a safety or a corner coming on an angle 278 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: you better hit that thing right, you know what I mean? 279 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 3: If not, that could hurt a number two. He could 280 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 3: bounce off you and go. His confidence is growing and 281 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: it's fun to watch him grow as a player. So 282 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 3: he goes and he's the understudy, and now he's the 283 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: leading man, and now he knows he's the leading fricking man. 284 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: And it doesn't seem like he's looking to slow down 285 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 3: at any point. So I love the way they use him. 286 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 3: I love the way he plays the game. I thought 287 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: the touchdown was the one. 288 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 5: It was. 289 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 3: It was a physical style touchdown that gets everybody into 290 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: it and demoralizes them. If you can keep that up, yeah, 291 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 3: I think all the praise that he's getting is going 292 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 3: to be more than deserved. 293 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: I think the Rams became a more difficult team to 294 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: defend last Sunday, and Puka has been every part of 295 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: this offense so far this season. But when you can 296 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: cross face and win in the red zone and your 297 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: quarterback can put it on your face mask and you 298 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: know that you can win, that's the element that's been 299 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: lacking so far through four games. Finishing drives, finishing on 300 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: short fields, and when you have Puka Nakua and Matthew 301 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: Stafford knowing that that's available to them, and you have 302 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: DeVante on the other side who can win one on one, 303 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: and you know that you've got the sledgehammer and Kyron 304 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: Williams and we haven't felt the full force of that 305 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: short area run game yet. That's where I think they 306 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: can really blow the lid off of this thing. And 307 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: for all the great things that Pouka has done through 308 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: parts of three seasons, and they have been record setting, 309 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: he's not found the end zone much and that was 310 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: probably the biggest complaint for Rams fans and fantasy football 311 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: owners alike. He got in the box last week and 312 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: that wasn't by accident, and the fashion that he did that, 313 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: that's what I mean by I say I think defensive 314 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: coordinators are losing sleep this week because they've unlocked that 315 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: part of their offense. 316 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: You talked about unlocking something and something of no. As 317 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm listening to the radio broadcast, you guys mentioned just 318 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: the difficulty for pass catching from some of those tailbacks 319 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: against the Colts. 320 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 4: Why were they looking that direction? 321 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: And is that another maybe piece to this offense that 322 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: really can be a difference maker. 323 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: The offense is going to grow right now, it's two 324 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 3: guys in the passing game and a hell of a 325 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 3: running games. I think, I hope it's a Sean McVay offense. 326 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: It's going to become more multiple, isn't it, Or can 327 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: it just run through two guys. 328 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: I think they're layering in tendencies. Yeah, I think they're 329 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: putting tape down that will be built off of week 330 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: after week and month, month after month from here on out. 331 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: Like they are dictating terms run in pass right now 332 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: in a way that Yeah, as they get deeper into 333 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: their game plan and their scheduling, I think they're only 334 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: going to have more levels to this thing. Yeah, But 335 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: like it's not just two to going for eighty eight. 336 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: It's too to just destroying Mike Hilton and earning a 337 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: pass interference. Like you have that dimension of your wide 338 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: receiver three, and you have Jordan Whittington shout out happy Birthday, 339 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: by the way, playing as a as an extra tight 340 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: end wide receiver three, and that all blends into the 341 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: efficiency of the running game, which is probably the most 342 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: underrated dimension of the rams so far, the way that 343 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: they've been able to get what they need on the ground. 344 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: Look, they have been running the football. The five guys 345 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: up front are doing a great job in their combo blocks. 346 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: I think the running backs, in particular Kyron and Blake Korn, 347 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: the way they're timing things up and setting things up 348 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: and the rhythm at which they start running. 349 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 5: Like you said, there's a lot of data they're. 350 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: Attacking defenses that gives Matthew Stafford and Sean McVay the 351 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: ability to throw off play action. But it's not like 352 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: you're forcing the ball to just DeVante and Pooka they're open. 353 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: If Davante Adams is open, that should be at the 354 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: top of your game plan. Get the ball to him, 355 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: get the ball to Puka Nakua. So I don't think 356 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: you're forcing it. I think they're just that good and 357 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: if you can somehow grow underneath and keep the running 358 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: game going, like you said, I agree with you, man, 359 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: you're going to keep some of these dcs up at 360 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: night trying to figure out I don't think we have 361 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: enough guys to cover what they can do. 362 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: Two quick follow ups on that. If you want target 363 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: share distributed to like your third and your fourth targets, 364 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: and you need the pass protection to allow Matthew Stafford 365 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: to get that deep in his progression. Every pass concept 366 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: is going to be one to Puka DeVante obvious reasons, 367 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: and I think the lack of pass pro so far 368 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: is why their target share looks the way that it does. 369 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: And then the other thing somewhat related is if you 370 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: want to know why Kyen Williams has been on the 371 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: field every single Sunday for just about every snap for 372 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: three years running, now go watch the way he passed 373 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: protected in that cold game. Yes, and why he has 374 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: the utmost trust and confidence of all of his coaches 375 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: in his quarterback. 376 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 5: I love the way he plays the game. I really do. 377 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: Every team needs a kir and the dude plays with fire. 378 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: You've seen his hair, right, it does look like his 379 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: hair is on fire sometimes it really does. 380 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's the way he plays. 381 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: I mean that run where he crosses from what like 382 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: the left numbers all the way to the right side 383 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: of the field, gives the stiff arm and the point. 384 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 5: Like that is yeah, come on, now, that's what play 385 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 5: energy is. To me. 386 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: We'll talk about Kien Williams play energy. 387 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 5: That is. 388 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: I want to see that as much as we saw 389 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: Squon jumping somebody backwards. 390 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 5: Right. Yeah, that's that was just as good. 391 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I think that play has seen just as much 392 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: play on social media as a. 393 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 5: And who he did it too. 394 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: It was even Yeah, Oh it's fantastic. 395 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: Maybe a position we could say is somewhat underserved in 396 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: terms of their targets this season. Maybe we don't really 397 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: need it quite yet. Is that tight end position just 398 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: something I noticed? Just four combined targets in the first 399 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: half for all tight ends, but then on that game 400 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: tying touchdown, four targets on that single drive alone. That 401 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: was a combo of Higbee Parkinson as well as Allan. 402 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 5: It's coming. 403 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 3: This is like the full back and a wishbone offense. 404 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: You have a function right now, we're banking it happen. 405 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: Your job is protection. But at some point we're going 406 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: to feed you a little bit that was not right now. 407 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: That was the tempo drive. Yeahs, And they opened it 408 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: up and they got the tempo and they're being asked 409 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: to do different things in that schematic than they have 410 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: been for much of the first month of the year. 411 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 4: M hm, yep, all right, Well, let's talk a little 412 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: offensive line. Will we see Steve? Will he be back 413 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: in the mix this week? 414 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: I believe full participant is what I saw on the 415 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: injury report as of yesterday. 416 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, how does that change things? 417 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: You know? 418 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: You did like Dtitschen there. 419 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: I love the I love the story, I really do. 420 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 3: He's undersized. He seems like a guy you just can't 421 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 3: get rid of. And I'm telling you from my perspective, 422 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: he's the worst type of dude to play against because 423 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: as a guard, you want him short and stocky, you 424 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: really do, and all they do is jump in your 425 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: chest and make life miserable for you. But I seen 426 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: Steve on on the bench, you know, fully padded, ready 427 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 3: to go. That's an encouraging sign. And when he's out there, 428 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 3: you're more physical. He's a bigger dude and he likes 429 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 3: to throw his body around. Cannot wait until he's reinserted 430 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: in the lineup. But like you said, when you're running 431 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: the football and you're having success, it's hard to make 432 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 3: a switch in there. But at some point it's inevitable. 433 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: He's one of the best o linemen you have. He'll 434 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 3: find his way to the football field. 435 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 436 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 2: Not my decision to make. My guess is probably no. 437 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: I don't think he messed with continuity, especially on a 438 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 2: short week dditch had his best game of the season. 439 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: And also, if he is still speaking of Steve less 440 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: than one hundred percent, if you're able to hold him 441 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 2: out on Thursday night and still get that win, he 442 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 2: gets an extra ten days to hopefully be one hundred 443 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: percent going to baltim More. I do think for the 444 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: Rams to be at their best, he needs to be 445 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: playing left guard, just like I feel like for the 446 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: Rams to reach their ceiling, Terrence Ferguson needs to be 447 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: active and have a part of the game plan. But 448 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: it's a long season and everyone who's been asked to 449 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: contribute will still be asked to contribute this Thursday and 450 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: moving down the line. 451 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point, that was his highest graded game 452 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: of seventy four of the stage played for DH. Yeah, 453 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: and he also this is the mark though that's even 454 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: more interesting. It was actually the highest graded offensive lineman 455 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: for the Rams one Sunday. 456 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: Okay, have you noticed the pattern, I'm always going to 457 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: root for the shortest guy. 458 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 5: Just a thing. 459 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: Well, we already dove into the defense just a bit 460 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: at the top of the show, so I'm going to 461 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: fast forward us. Let's talk a little bit more about 462 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: the run defense and what we've seen currently ranked tenth 463 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: against the run are the Los Angeles Rams, And correct 464 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, But it feels like this is 465 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: a defense that's no longer willing to give up small cuts. 466 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: They're not willing to give up much of anything. I 467 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: feel like that I has or that mentality has somewhat shifted. 468 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 4: Am I wrong? 469 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: I think the front seven is as good as any 470 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 3: front seven we've seen for the Rams in I don't 471 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: know how long. And speaking of short guys, Punaford is 472 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: as good as advertised. He is just an absolute problem. 473 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: He is a tree stump in the middle of the 474 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: road that you just cannot move. And another guy who 475 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: needs to get more credit. And I have to do 476 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: a better job of this. Kobe Turner is playing great 477 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: football run in pass he is. He's a guy that 478 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: plays tough on those rundowns and he also straightens out 479 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 3: and could be a pass rusher in the middle if 480 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 3: they didn't grab him and hold him, or if he 481 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: didn't trip. He has at least two sacks that touchdown 482 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: that we talked about that wasn't on the touch back. 483 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 3: He is a breath away from hitting and sacking Daniel 484 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 3: Jones the ball just got out. So those two guys, 485 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 3: everybody in the middle, the defensive ends and tackles, the 486 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 3: guys that put their hand down primarily to stop the 487 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: run rush the past have been absolutely great. That's the 488 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 3: reason to me this defense has gotten so much better. 489 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 3: And the clean up guys, the linebackers, and the tackling 490 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 3: has been exemplary. Coming out of the back end, Cam 491 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 3: Curle coming up with two picks, I thought that was fantastic. 492 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: But just those guys in the middle being consistent, communicating 493 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 3: and trusting each other to stop the run and forcing 494 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 3: you to throw. That's how a defense gets better. 495 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: DeMarco, let me ask you something. Because the Rams are 496 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 2: running the gauntlet right now. When you think about Saquon JT. 497 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: McCaffrey this week, Derrick Henry next week. But when I 498 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: look at the Niners, the laundry is the same, but 499 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: the impact in the scheme is different. Like, I cannot 500 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: believe that here in week five, you're hosting a San 501 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 2: Francisco team that has not rushed for a touchdown yet. 502 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 5: It's weird. 503 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: McCaffrey is paradoxically the healthiest forty nine er on offense, 504 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: but he has become a receiver aligning in the backfield. 505 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: So how does that change the math? How does that 506 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 2: stretch you as a defensive front when he's always been 507 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: able and willing to hit that a gap and they'll 508 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 2: run a full back right at you. I still think 509 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: they will, But right now they're putting him on the perimeter. 510 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: This is how can I say this? This is going 511 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 3: from boxing the MMA. This guy can do everything. So 512 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 3: of all the guys that you just mentioned, including Saquon 513 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 3: and Jonathan Taylor, I think they are great backs, this 514 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: guy scares me more than all of them because he 515 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: can do everything. 516 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 5: He can hit you up the gut with speed. 517 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 3: He can run traps, he can run counter, he can 518 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: slow play you, he can beat you to the flag. 519 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 5: He can also run routes. 520 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 3: He can pick on certain people on your defense that 521 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: you don't want covering anybody and make that guy pay. 522 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 5: Now, that's not the fourth read in the progression. 523 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 3: That is the play to take advantage of that guy, 524 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 3: and he's got a coach that knows how to make 525 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: that matchup happen. So of anybody that the Rams have faced, 526 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 3: and they've all been great dangerous guys, ambient players, this 527 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: guy scares me the most. 528 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know who's gonna play quarterback for them. 529 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: That might be another twenty four hours in the making. 530 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: But I do know that he has the ability to 531 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: cool off your pass rush, not just as a pass protector, 532 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 2: but because you have to respect him leaking out. He 533 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: is that ultimate safety valve that I think Perdy and 534 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: or Jones will rely upon heavily come Thursday. 535 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: Yes, and anytime he gets it, it's a home run 536 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 3: waiting to happen. It's not just a release or let's 537 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 3: just get the ball out, you save the sack. If 538 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: it gets to him, you better make sure you get 539 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 3: him on the ground because he can go. 540 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting you talked about the front seven, 541 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: but I feel like now looking at this Rams defense, 542 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: there's one name that has kind of changed some of 543 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: the identity, and it's at the second level, and I think. 544 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 4: The Landman, Nate land Man. 545 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I feel as if he's changed my expectations 546 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: of how this Rams run defense and even maybe facing 547 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: off against c Mac is going to play on Thursday night, 548 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: because you look at the big plays he's come away with, 549 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: whether it was the peanut punch against Houston or some 550 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: of the recoveries he's had in the last two games. 551 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he really has changed the complexion of the 552 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: Rams at the second level. 553 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: I agree, man, I guess it's funny we've been waiting on. 554 00:23:54,240 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: You Jones, right. Yeah, having a dude at that spot. 555 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 3: A dude at that spot that seems to get it 556 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: in totality. 557 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 4: And make plays. 558 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a leader from day one. He's only about 559 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 3: this and he can make plays and not just like 560 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 3: picks or whatever. He is stout against the run. He 561 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 3: sticks his nose in there. He's Yeah, it's like we've 562 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 3: been waiting on you for a while. 563 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 5: You know. 564 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: I feel bad. It's been ten days since his last takeaway. 565 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: So I hope he's doing okay, and I hope he 566 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: can get to Thursday night because he's probably hungry. 567 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 4: That's fair enough. 568 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: Well, let's dig into Thursday night a bit more. It's 569 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: the Rams' first primetime game of the season, and it 570 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: will be for the NFC West Division lead, and that's 571 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: just a bit more juice to this rivalry. You think back, 572 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: they're looking for their fourth straight win over the forty 573 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: nine ers, and what's wild is in the past three 574 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: is we have trailed in the fourth quarter, and all 575 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: three of those matchups, Rams have outscored in the fourth 576 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: quarter thirty to three. In those last three matchups. 577 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 4: We're looking for four in a row. 578 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 2: Four in a row. 579 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, we're getting there. Yeah. 580 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 4: You kind of like that, don't you. 581 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, I do. 582 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: I do, because you've been a part of somean streaks to. 583 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 5: Mark seventeen in a row. 584 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been on the receiving end of a like 585 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 3: fourteen straight or whatever it was. So yeah, okay, we're 586 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: getting there. But it's fun. Like I said, you throw 587 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 3: it all out the window. No matter how you're playing, 588 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: or how you feel about yourself or what you think 589 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: about them, throw it out the window if you don't 590 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 3: have a reason that. I'll say this to every current 591 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: RAMS player, and I've said this before, there's one thing 592 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 3: that unites us all, no matter where you played for 593 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 3: the Rams or when. It's a hatred of them. And 594 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 3: if you don't have a healthy hatred of them, just 595 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: wait a while. 596 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 5: It'll show up. It may show up this Thursday. 597 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely, no matter how you feel about yourself or them, 598 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 3: this game means more than you know. So if you 599 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: thought you played a great game. More is required this 600 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: Thursday to beat them. 601 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: Fans of this show have heard this before, so apologies 602 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: for the redundancy, But I've been saying it since the 603 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: schedule came out in May. I said it during training camp. 604 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: I'll say it again right now. The forty nine Ers 605 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: have the softest schedule in the National Football League by 606 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: virtue of finishing last in the division last year and 607 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: the crossover matchups, they have the cakewalk of all the 608 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 2: thirty two teams in the National Football League. So my 609 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 2: point back in the spring, in the summer, and again 610 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 2: now is the Los Angeles Rams need to beat the 611 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine Ers twice, period, point blank. If 612 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: they don't do it, there aren't a lot of other 613 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: teams out there to do it. So if the Rams 614 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: want to win this division, if they want to keep 615 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: San Francisco from winning double digit games or getting a 616 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 2: playoff spot, it is up to them and no one else. 617 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: Thank you Jacksonville and Liam Cohen for that gift, right, 618 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 2: But again I go back to this is still a 619 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: three and one nine Er team, and if they get 620 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 2: to four and one, they won't just be atop the 621 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: NFC West they'll have the head to head on all 622 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: the other three division runners. So it's a big, big 623 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: deal Thursday night. 624 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: And it's unique too when you look at the Los 625 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams schedule because their next divisual matchup isn't till 626 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: Week ten and it's right back against the forty nine ers. 627 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 4: It's you got a long span, man. 628 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: I guess the schedule makers were saying that they don't 629 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: see this division coming down necessarily to La and San Francisco. Yeah, 630 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: it's incumbent upon Los Angeles to make them right. 631 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Yes, continue get better. Yes. 632 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: Where do you see the advantage for the Los Angeles 633 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: Rams apart from the health side of this matchup? 634 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 3: Stafford, I think there's your advantage there and the way 635 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: you're running the football and the fact that you're at 636 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 3: home and your defense is coming off hell of a game, 637 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: a win. So I wish and that we were talking 638 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 3: about this earlier. I wish you had full rest for 639 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 3: this game. I wish you had a chance to recover 640 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: from such a physical game, you know, from Sunday to Sunday. 641 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 3: But they're going through the same thing you are, so 642 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 3: that's the benefit of it. And they're coming off a loss. 643 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 3: So I think the key is definitely going to be 644 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford finding those connections, getting better, just cleaning up 645 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 3: in between the the moments of greatness like how he 646 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: finished finishing up like not having that same or similar 647 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 3: third quartergainst the Niners. 648 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 5: Don't give them any life. 649 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 3: When you seize control of the game, refuse to give 650 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: it back, keep building upon it, make the game, make 651 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter easy. If you can do that, like 652 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: this is how you turn into one of the best 653 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: teams in the in the NFC, if not already. 654 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: Biggest mismatch I see is Puka Nakua against a rookie 655 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: in the slot up in Stout is going to be 656 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: a good player. I think he's already put some good 657 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: tape down, but he was seen as probably a reach 658 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: in the draft at five eight, five nine on a 659 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: good day, one hundred and eighty something pounds matched up 660 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: against Puka, who's been playing in the slot more than 661 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 2: any other. How do you think San Francisco and Robert 662 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 2: Sala handle that me? 663 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: My guess is I think they do exactly what they 664 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 3: do and don't change and say make Poka, make Pooka. 665 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 5: Prove it to me that day. Really that seems to 666 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 5: be his mL right, and then adjust off it. 667 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: Because what's interesting about the blender that the Rams offense 668 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: puts you in is so far four teams have put 669 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: their best corner on Devonte Adams right, makes sense, right, 670 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: especially because where he aligns at some point? Do you 671 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: have to change to account for pookin Akua being the 672 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: most prolific receiver in the league. Well, when he's playing 673 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: all over the formation and when he's inserting into your 674 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: run surface, do you burn a lugarious sneed traveling with 675 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: pooku Akua? Is that even possible? 676 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 5: I don't think that's the Yeah, I wouldn't do. 677 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: That, Okay, Yeah, So that's the strain that I think 678 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: the Rams offensively are really presenting to their opponents is, Yeah, 679 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: we've got the number one receiver in football, but he's 680 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: basically a mobile tight end. So how do you cover him? 681 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: Especially if you're built to have a small slot corner 682 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: like the forty nine ers have right now a rookie? 683 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 4: So do you change the target share? 684 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's been a big conversation throughout a fantasy 685 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: football fans. 686 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 4: Every week in. 687 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: Week out, I have people asking me, I mean you 688 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: have DeVante and you got Puku Nakua that the reality 689 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: is you still have two two. You've got tight ends. 690 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: But I'm going you're winning games with those two guys, 691 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: and then you have that third additional threat of two 692 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: two clearly down the field when. 693 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 5: You need I don't have you. 694 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: Can you remember an instance where you thought they were 695 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 3: forcing the football to one or two guys? 696 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: I mean I felt like they were forcing the football 697 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: at the end of last season. This feels like, yes, 698 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: what timing rhythm. This schematic makes a ton of sense. 699 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: Now you look at the share and the Rams are 700 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: slanted towards two players more than anyone else in the 701 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: National Football League, and I think Kiren is their third 702 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: larges target share. Let's give it another month to smooth out. 703 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: But I meant what I said when the Rams have 704 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 2: become a more difficult team to prepare for offensively based 705 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: on the way they beat the Colts, because I do 706 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: think you have to respect Jordan Whittington to two at well. 707 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: They continue to try and get Knate Mumfield targets and 708 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: I think his time is coming. And the tight end element. 709 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: Higbee had a big catch, Colby had some big catches. 710 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: Davis Allen has two touches, So I think it's more 711 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: about playoffs. I think it's running up your play account 712 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: and things will will smooth out. But if opposing defenses 713 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: don't change the way they're playing you, and you can 714 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: get the football into Pooka and DeVante's hands twenty times 715 00:30:58,920 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: per game. 716 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 5: Thank you? 717 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: See in the playoffs, Yes, Mumfield was that close to 718 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 3: making swecast right there. 719 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, to Marco, how challenging is it to face a 720 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: team like the San Francisco forty nine ers when you 721 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: really don't know who's going to be out there, especially 722 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: on a short week considering the number of injuries. I mean, 723 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: we could list them, but it's far too long. 724 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 5: On their offense. 725 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: I mean, look the way they do things, it's it's 726 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 3: rhythm anyway. So you're going to be practicing reps and 727 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 3: getting to spots faster, you're going to be playing schemes, 728 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: So it really doesn't matter who's actually doing it, you 729 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I mean, I think that's what 730 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 3: McCaffrey does. He's so good at doing it, and then 731 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: he has the other gear to make you pay, make 732 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 3: you miss, and make you go. But Yeah, when you're 733 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 3: preparing for the forty nine ers, you are preparing for 734 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: McCaffrey and everyone else, you're really preparing for Shanahan. You 735 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: got to beat him to the thing, because as we 736 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 3: give McVeigh credit, you can give him the same credit. 737 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 3: He will find a way to run the football. He 738 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 3: will find a way to exploit your rules on defense 739 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 3: and use them against you. He's great at it. So 740 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: it almost does matter who's carrying the rock. It's just 741 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 3: you better beat them to the spot before they get there. 742 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: What do you think it's going to be like seeing 743 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Robinson in some different colors. 744 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:14,479 Speaker 2: Who I mean no disrespect to him, but like if 745 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: if he is getting a lot of burn for them, 746 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: that means that their top end guys aren't going. And 747 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: we'll see about Pearsall, We'll see about Jenny's. We know 748 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: Iyuke's on ir, we know Kittle's not going to go. Like, 749 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: I mean, thank you to Marcus Robinson for everything you 750 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 2: meant to this franchise for multiple years. But if they 751 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: have to lean heavily on him Thursday night, that means 752 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: that some of their top options are not going to 753 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: be dressed or able to go you put. 754 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 5: On a red I don't know you. I'll know you 755 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 5: after the game. 756 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 4: I got you. Okay, we've gone through several of the 757 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 4: keys to victory. 758 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: Do you have any final thoughts on this matchup in 759 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: terms of keys to victory? 760 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 3: Dare I say we still haven't seen the best game 761 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: just yet? Or all three phases coming together? This couldn't close. 762 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you say, don't touch my third face because that's 763 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: my Oh darn it, that was mine. 764 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 5: That's ours. 765 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, then I'll lean on defense and running the football. 766 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 3: I think that's been the thing that has stood out 767 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 3: the most to me, or has made the biggest like 768 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 3: improvement from one season to the next. They're running the football, 769 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 3: Maury said it. It's the keda football. Sometimes running the 770 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: football is violence. They're running with violence, they're running with authority, 771 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 3: and they're stopping the run the same way. It's not 772 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 3: just guys, like you said, getting lucky to the football 773 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 3: or a bunch of gaps and stunt switches. These are 774 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: guys that are facing people up, two hands to the chest, 775 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 3: driving you backwards and making plays. So running the football, 776 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 3: controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides. I think 777 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 3: has been the Rams calling card. It's got to be 778 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: the same thing on Thursday night versus San fran If 779 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: you want to win this football game. 780 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 5: You bring it home. 781 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: Not serious. 782 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 4: I've talked about it, Okay. 783 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna say we got to give some love 784 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: to special teams, especially after the response against Philly, and 785 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with what they've been able to do 786 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: penning teams deep. 787 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 4: It's the second. 788 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: Best mark in the NFL currently and conversely the opposite 789 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: side the forty nine ers worst. I'm going to say 790 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: we're winning that phase come Thursday night. That's you got 791 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: any others? 792 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: Why did the Niners finish last in the division last season? 793 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: Injury misfortune? Sure, but special teams has been a grease 794 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 2: fire up there. They let a punt back a big 795 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: time kick return back last week. They've already changed kickers. 796 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 5: You're right. 797 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 2: The biggest strategic advantage in this game I think is 798 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 2: in the kicking phase. But I say this with a 799 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 2: huge grain of salt and a huge level of concern 800 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: and respect, because when you face a team that doesn't 801 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 2: have a pick yet, that hasn't rushed for a touchdown yet, 802 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: you have to keep an ailing team sick. Do not 803 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 2: let this week be the one where the forty nine 804 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: ers get healthy and get off the hook and get 805 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: hot and go on a run. Because we've seen that 806 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: movie before. I don't want to see it again in 807 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: twenty five. 808 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 5: I love you over there, I really do. 809 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: I think there's a focus in this that is very 810 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: aware of the danger that exists facing off against a 811 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: rivalry on a short week, and even that that is injured. 812 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 2: One last thing, real quick. My friend and my counterpart, 813 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: Greg Papa for the San Francisco forty nine Ers, is 814 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 2: on injured reserve this season. Oh he's sick. He's back 815 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 2: on the radio. He's not going to be broadcasting this game. 816 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 2: So for any forty nine Ers fans who made it 817 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: this deep in between the horns for Greg, love you man, 818 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: thinking about you. If there's going to be any contingent 819 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 2: of red and gold inside Sofi Stadium tomorrow night, I 820 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: live with it. If you are going to be one 821 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 2: of them, I'm sorry that you're not, but cannot wait 822 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 2: to see again for rams and nine or soon. 823 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: Well said Jbi Long for Jbi Long, DeMarco far I'm 824 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: camer murder when this has been another edition of Between 825 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: the Horns, presented by your Southern California Toyta Dealers. 826 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 4: We can't wait to see. 827 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: You and so by tomorrow night it will be on 828 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: Amazon Prime Prime Time and so FI five fifteen. 829 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 4: We can't wait to see that.