1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: The way up with angela. Ye, and y'all know I 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: love me some Real Housewives a Potomac. Well, Kierana, welcome 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: to the show. You said this is your first time 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: and I. 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: Heard, yes, this is my first time here, I believe. 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 2: So thank you for having me. 7 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Okay, well, glad to have you because you got a 8 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: lot going on on this season. 9 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: About it season ten. 10 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: So first thing I did was check to see if 11 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: you had that ring because you and Greg, your boyfriend 12 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: soon to be fiance, were shopping for rings. 13 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: But not shopping for rings. 14 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: Well yes, and Angel and you know. 15 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the people were they're shopping for the rings. 16 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I said, listen, it got a little crazy. 17 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: So I want to talk to about you and Greg 18 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: first and foremost because you guys broke up and then 19 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: and then we found out this season you got back together. 20 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: Yes, we had all come to Jesus fight, and you 21 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: know what, we needed that at the time. I think 22 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: you know, when you add reality TV to your relationship 23 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: and you put cameras on things that you haven't had 24 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: the chance to work out on your own. Yeah, we 25 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: needed some time apart. We needed figure out this is 26 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: what we wanted to do and it was good for us. 27 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: And I think now that we're back together, we actually 28 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: are living together, we're trying to do things the right way, 29 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: all right. 30 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: So now he brought you a condo, Yeah, let me 31 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: it's tequila, so break. 32 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: On because I feel like that gets a little muddy 33 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: on on camera. So basically, when I moved out, I 34 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: moved into the condo because we had intentions on doing 35 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: the home together. So when I moved out, I was like, oh, okay, 36 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: I actually really love it here. And so a part 37 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: of him saying do you want to come back home 38 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: was like, okay, I kind of like this too. So 39 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: our little compromise as we work through things was the condo. 40 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: So I was already buying the condo and he's like, 41 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: you know what, let me do that for you. Okay, 42 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: So that's kind of what happened. So I put the 43 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: contract on the condo. We actually have not closed yet 44 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: on the condo, but it's a contract on the condo. 45 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: So that was the deal. So and I actually moved 46 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: back in, but we set the things in place so 47 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: that it all made sense. 48 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: Now I saw your mom and your brother. By the way, 49 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: the whole family's live thank you, because everybody was like, okay, brother, okay, 50 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: genetics they're strong. Yeah, So how do they feel about 51 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: all of this? 52 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: Now? 53 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: We only saw what we saw on TV. But you 54 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: guys are together. Are they happy for you now? Because 55 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: I can understand breaking up your mama is your brother's protection. 56 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: Totally. Listen. One thing you want to do when you 57 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: tell your family, you'll better be prepared. And that's what 58 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: it's like. Else gonna say, imagine telling them. But they 59 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: watching it now, their family has to watch you. So 60 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: I think they had very normal family responses to be concerned. 61 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: I think they know me, they know how I do 62 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: my relationships. I will kind of keep it in house 63 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: and work through my things. So for them to be 64 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: a part of that and to have to watch that, 65 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 2: it's set in them. So I think their feelings were 66 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: very valid. And I allow my family to express their 67 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: feelings because at the end of the day, we're gonna 68 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: all be together if we're gonna be together, and so 69 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: right now they have a mutual understanding. They have their understanding, 70 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: and so like any other family, like if I forgive them, 71 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: they're open. If it makes me happy, they're open. Behind 72 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: if you get on the wrong side of the tracks, 73 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: They'll get into it again and then you know, and 74 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: they find their way back Oo. 75 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: You also started doing therapy. You said, oh needed it, Okay, 76 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: so tell me about because that is so interesting. You've 77 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: never done therapy before this or had you. 78 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 2: No, So I I know I have done therapy attempts 79 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: at therapy, I have not done therapy in the way 80 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: that I am doing therapy right now. I'm in constant 81 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: therapy where I go and Greg and I also go 82 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: to therapy. So I think a lot of times couples 83 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: go to get therapy together and some of your root 84 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: issues are independent of your person. 85 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, So what are some things that you two 86 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: had to work through together? Because we saw how things 87 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: played out before you felt he was dismissive of you totally, 88 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: and then he was dismissive. 89 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: Of you, and then he dismissed me. Uh yeah, that 90 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: was very uncomfortable because it's so funny. You know, I 91 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: think when people are watching they're watching these very short periods, 92 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: they're watching a three day situation, and it kind of 93 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: sums up the narrative of your relationship and that's just 94 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: not true. Like any normal relationship you have an argument. 95 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: Sometimes you're able to work those things out in three days. 96 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: Kudos to you if you can. Sometimes when you're making 97 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: serious decisions, you need longer than a three day camera 98 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: fest to say this is what's going to be the 99 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: sum of your relationship. But I think in therapy one 100 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: of the biggest things that I realized is that this 101 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: is something that was new for the both of us. 102 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: It was a decision that I made for myself personally 103 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 2: that actually did not include Greg, which is something that 104 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: he needed to accept. And it's also the fact that 105 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: I think that what expectations look like and realistically what 106 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: we want to do. Like I talk a lot about 107 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: our past experiences with me being engaged, him being married, 108 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: him being divorced, and me being single for a certain 109 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: amount of time. Those are things that I have to 110 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: work through and try to reposition myself because being a 111 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: wife is different than being a. 112 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: Girlfriend, right, you know, and you've been through a lot. 113 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: I've been through a lot, you know, even in your 114 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: previous engagement and the way that ended, Yeah, it was unfortunate. 115 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: And so if you've never addressed that, I can't even 116 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: imagine how that is. Bringing that into that is. 117 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 2: So real because I don't really get too deep into 118 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: that on camera because I like to respect that particular 119 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: phase of my life. But yeah, that's something very deep 120 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 2: for me because it changes your expectations on what forever 121 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 2: looks like and when people put pressure on that, and 122 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: you have different experiences, and both of us are having 123 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: different experiences, and we both have grief. I'm sure that 124 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: we've experienced in different ways of loss and that definitely 125 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: impacts both of us of trying to self cope do 126 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: it on our own, and then trying to fit this 127 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: person back into our lives, new people back into our 128 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: lives in a big way, so that you know, those 129 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: are things that we definitely had to work through. And 130 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: then there's children involved. 131 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say going to have three kids? Yeah, 132 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: because he has three children. Yeah, how has that been? 133 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: Just having that blended family? And you know that takes 134 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: like a lot of work too. 135 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 2: It does. And you're talking about someone who has zero 136 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: responsibilities besides herself and life, and a lot of my 137 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: previous relationships were zero responsibilities. So we have to be 138 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: a lot more considerate. That is not just about us. 139 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: We bring the children into this, We make a family, 140 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: not just for gragging ourselves to be selfish. We create 141 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: this based around them too. In all families, you know. 142 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: So because once you put your family on national TV, 143 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: you add your children to that. There's a lot of 144 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: layers there. So for me, it is very different because 145 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: it's like Kay, you can't just think about Kay anymore. 146 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: There are a lot of other people that you have to. 147 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: Think about different dating somebody and that with kids it is, 148 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, because the kids get attached to you too. 149 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: That's the thing. So it's like, listen, I don't have 150 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: no problem dragging you to hell, but they I gotta 151 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 2: be like then when I come back, I'm looking at 152 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: the kids like, oh my god, hey y'all miss me? 153 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: We cool? Else? Well, you know, so it is different, 154 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 2: and I will say to you know, that's the part 155 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: I actually like. I like the family piece, you know, 156 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: I like the family piece. It's a matter of now 157 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: trying to balance a piece that wasn't a part of 158 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: my existence before. So Greg has his plights, but I 159 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: have a whole different plight that looks different off camera 160 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: than you know, what people are able to see. 161 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: You're also an entrepreneur obviously, have your own business. That's 162 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: quite successful, and so people are digging into that. 163 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: Now. 164 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: I want you to break down because I saw some 165 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: articles and people are talking crazy. They're like, she don't 166 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: own it is this is that it's not really hers. 167 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: But I want you to clear that up. 168 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: Yes, because I can see the people get bored and 169 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: they like to get entertained. So I absolutely owned the business. 170 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: So I have when I started a case to it 171 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: beauty and Wellness. It's actually not under that name, but 172 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: my mom when I came in at a I came. 173 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: I started the business post COVID, so I had some 174 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: things going on. I had to hold that business for 175 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: a very long time. I actually had a very difficult 176 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: startup with my business, one that I don't even talk 177 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: about because now people are like, oh, we were so 178 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: happy for her to be here. But I went through hell. 179 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: I was actually the first black O woman medspa in 180 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: the area to be in that prime real estate downtown. 181 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: So I went to let's set stop. It was a 182 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: huge deal. 183 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so congratulations to you. 184 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: Easy. It wasn't easy, and I really had a very 185 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: hard time. So I needed a break from my moment 186 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: and I tapped my mom in and I say, hey, okay, 187 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: she's like, well, we should add something else to the 188 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: business and mental health. Why don't we make a stup 189 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: in branch. So it's always case to it beauty. So 190 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: my mom did case to a beauty and wellness to 191 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: kind of relieve me because my first year business, honey, 192 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: I deep dive all the way into debt, like I. 193 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: And that's what I took it all on. I took 194 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: you gotta self fund your business. 195 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: Listen, I so mind you. I actually sold my franchises 196 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: to self fund that business. 197 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: Wow. 198 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: So's it's a deeper story than that. But yeah, So 199 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: it was really like I did it all and so 200 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: it literally is like a half a million dollar project 201 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: and honey, I did every dollar of that. So when 202 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: I couldn't hold it anymore, I said, hey, Mom, I'm 203 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: going to transition my business. Can you tap me and 204 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: can you help me? And then I own this part 205 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: and then I can have this in your name. So 206 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: for the people who are like, oh, she doesn't, yes, 207 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: I do. My name is on the lease, it's on 208 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: the building. Yes. And I have a wonderful mother who's 209 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: also a businesswoman as well. And so yeah, that's what 210 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: I did, and I've turned it over to her and 211 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: I'm able to like buy my business back and it's 212 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: you know still Case Stewart. 213 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: Do you think being on the show helps you with 214 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: your business? Do you see a lot more people coming 215 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: in since you've been on Real Housewives. I'm just curious, Like, 216 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: as far as the branding part. 217 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: Of it, I'll say, here's the deal, I will say, yes, 218 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: it peaks a lot more interest. I think what's really 219 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: interesting is that I think there are now we're seeing 220 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: a lot more black women in the esthetic industry. However, 221 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: it's a very small percentage of us. It's very expensive 222 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: to do, and it's hard to do. And so for me, 223 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 2: you know, I find that's what makes the platform so 224 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: amazing because I get to tell people about, Hey, this 225 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: is for us, this is for us, because that's why 226 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: I created this. And being in the beauty industry for 227 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: so long, I owned the hair salon too. I can 228 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: see it touched me to that I own the hair 229 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: salon too, and I own that for thirteen years, and 230 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: I transition from the hair salon, I have franchise, and 231 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: then I transitioned into the medical spa. But I will 232 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 2: say that it's just really important now that people get 233 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: to see me a little bit more clearly in what 234 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: I'm doing, and like what they see myself or they 235 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: see all the people know. 236 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: They show business a little more. I would like to 237 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: talk about it. I show it a lot because I 238 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: would think that would be fast for people to see. 239 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: Listen you and that element, because I do feel out 240 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: here that like you've been kind of made the villain 241 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: this season. I don't know if you kind of Okay, 242 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if you feel that way, but it 243 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: seems like they've made you the person that's kind of 244 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: like what is she so mad for? Like why? And 245 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: so I know we don't get to see a lot 246 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: of the footage. Yeah, so sometimes we don't know, like 247 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, you and Giselle, you and Wendy, even you 248 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: and your own friend Angel you know that's your friend. 249 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: And so people have said, and they did a whole 250 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: article like she's not a good friend, you know type 251 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: of thing. And I want you to be able to 252 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: answer to that because, like I said, there's a lot 253 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: we don't see totally. 254 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: First of all, I'm a great friend. That's those first 255 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: things first of a great friend. 256 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: Yet here we are I'm a great friend. 257 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: I'm a protector. I'm someone who is very you know, 258 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: I'm very aware when people play a little game. I 259 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: don't even let you play a little game until I'm 260 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: onto your game. And I think that's what people are 261 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: seeing we forget that I've had time around these ladies. 262 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: I've had time to know some of their intentions and 263 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: not always the best. So specifically, I'm gonna speak to 264 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: Angel as my friend. I really ushered her into this, 265 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: you know, into our friend group, and I felt so 266 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: protective of her. Even the pitfall was me still being like, hey, 267 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: don't do that, because I don't want them to try 268 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: to even say that there's a flaw between us, because 269 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: it's not. We have a very solid friendship, you know 270 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: what I mean. 271 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: Because we know there's a curse on reality TV. 272 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it fall out, and that was when I 273 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: wasn't gonna let fall on us. So for me, it's 274 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: actually that I'm really more of a protective friend. I'm 275 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: the friend that's like, no, she belongs to me and 276 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: I you know, and I feel like in this environment, 277 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: it's natural for people to want to tear friendships apart sometime, 278 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: and so for her specifically, I was like, no, we're 279 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: not gonna do that, and so even the chinchat commet 280 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: was really me trying to protect her, you know. So 281 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: what you guys didn't see is that she was actually 282 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 2: at my event and we had the conversation. I was like, 283 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: wait a minute, let's not do that because we would 284 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: have to do that in front of other people. And 285 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: I'm a girl, cold girl, so me and you can 286 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: have all of the agree disagrees we want between you 287 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: and me. So it was that I knew that that 288 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: would be giving it to the group and I did 289 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: not want that, right, You're glad that we do that, 290 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: and that's exactly what happened. Then Ashley took it to Giselle, 291 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: and then Gazelle brings it back up to me, and 292 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: I'm instantly like when I'm saying I chin check the situation, 293 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, we don't ever have to discuss that again, 294 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: because she and I had already discussed that. That turned 295 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 2: into oh she said she chin checked you, right, and 296 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: that wasn't what it was, you know. 297 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: So I did get that because I didn't feel like 298 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: you said you physically were about. 299 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: To like no, no, listen, no, okay. 300 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: It kind of was like shut down the situation. 301 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, let's shut down the situation I don't 302 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: want that to be the narrative here, so exactly, you 303 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: see how you knew them and shutdown That's exactly what 304 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: I didn't think that. 305 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: But what people also then they made it a big 306 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: deal like, oh, you said you didn't say it, then 307 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: you said you couldn't remember. 308 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: Well, because honestly, if you didn't, no, I probably didn't remember. 309 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: But we talked about so much of it, and that 310 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: was actually such a small nugget of the conversation that 311 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 2: that wasn't even really what Jiselle and I have been 312 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: talking about, which is why I didn't remember. There were 313 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 2: other things we were talking about that were to me 314 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: important conversation that was not So that's why I didn't remember. 315 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: Now, when you were looking at this scene on the 316 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: boat where you and Jizelle, Yes, when you looked at 317 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: that in retrospect, do you feel like that was accurately 318 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: portrayed or is there more to that story? 319 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: And actually I don't even really I really hate that 320 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: scene because I think it was such It was one 321 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: of those scenes where I was very confused while we 322 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: were even having that conversation because it's a conversation that 323 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: Giselle and I had had multiple times. So I felt 324 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: like it was a little it was very like a 325 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: little like gotcha moment that didn't Yeah, Wendy instigated that, 326 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: And I'm looking at Jazelle, like, we've worked through this already. 327 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: We've had scenes where we actually sat down and talk 328 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: about it. It was never shown, but we actually worked through this, 329 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: and it's like it was a trauma that I didn't 330 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: want either of us to have to relive. So it 331 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: really did upset me. And then the fact that we 332 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: had Wendy throwing the icing on top of it was like, 333 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: what are we even talking about? Why is she even 334 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: in it? You and I have already resolved out issues. 335 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: If we want to talk, that's between you and I. 336 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: But why why are we letting the input of what 337 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: Wendy have to say on a conversation that you and 338 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: I have already addressed. 339 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: Now, another thing that's been headline making is you and 340 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: Stacy Child. I'm sure you said Stacy's on Vanity Fair's 341 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: Favorite Performances of twenty twenty five lists. Congraduates They actually 342 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: named her on that, and people feel like there's no 343 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: real reason for you. It feels like you don't like her, 344 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: and they're like, we don't understand why she doesn't like Stacy, 345 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: And listen, I get that people feel like Stacy lies 346 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: about things, but I want to hear from you because 347 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: people are confused about that. 348 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, issue, Actually, the issue is that people 349 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: are so caught up on me not liking Stacy. Here's 350 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: a few of the backdrops. At the beginning of the season. 351 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: We did have like a rocky start when you say 352 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: at Giselle's house, I was really kind of over it 353 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: because here's the thing. We're on reality TV and we 354 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: have a responsibility to give some kind of reality, not 355 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: just performance. Okay, because I'm a real person. I don't 356 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: have performance. I don't have performance back I have a 357 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: theatrical background. I bring myself to reality TV, right, just 358 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: like you're asking me all of my business and I'm 359 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: giving it to you because I bring I appreciate, I 360 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: bring myself. Yeah, because this is me, right, So you know, 361 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: sometimes you expect that from other people, you're just not 362 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: gonna get it. So even after that, what you see 363 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: is me at the Bloomball when I'm talking to Stacey, 364 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: and I'm like, hi, Stacy. Actually, it was like I 365 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: brung a gift for Stacy because I'm like, girl, let's 366 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: wrap this up when you don't really have to have 367 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: an issue, because Stacey was somebody that I actually rooted 368 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: for and liked. Okay, so I'm like, all right, maybe 369 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: you know this doesn't have to go left for the 370 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: rest of the seasons. But I think once she formed 371 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: her alliance with Wendy, I mean, nothing's better than an 372 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: alliance hate train, because you know, once they get together 373 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: on the same hate train, nothing you know how that goes. 374 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: So once the linkup happens, once the Mad Girls link up, 375 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: and you don't like me girls, that's just a thing. 376 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: So me and Stacey, I've had several moments this season 377 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: where I actually am the bigger person. I'm like, girl, 378 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to do that with you no more. 379 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: We're done with it. But Stacy actually, when we were 380 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: in Nevis, there was a moment where she really wanted 381 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: to get to know Angel better and be good friends 382 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: with Angel, and I said, well, you're putting a whole 383 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: lot of effort into Stacy. You always say that I 384 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: don't want be your friend she said, because I'm not 385 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: interested in friendship with you, but. 386 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: You can't be friends with my best friend. 387 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: And then no, no, it's fine if you be friends 388 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: with my best friend. But let's let's move the fact 389 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: that Kay has a problem with you, because at this point, 390 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: then maybe you have a problem with Kay. 391 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: So you know, maybe it started with the whole Monique 392 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: situation too, that you know, saying that she dated moniques 393 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: ex husband. 394 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it was yeah, 395 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: you know, it's one of those bones that I'm like, yeah, 396 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: but here's the deal, here's the deal. It's honesty. And 397 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: guess what, Monique, you've been out of the game for 398 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: a while and I'm not so I know what goes 399 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: on here, you know. And so it was it was 400 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: a girl cold moment again for me where I'm like, hey, girls, 401 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: just so we clear because everybody will smile up in 402 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: your face and they don't know the deal. But Money 403 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: didn't care, so great. 404 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, money gets past that, thank god. But I do 405 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: want to say with Stacy, I'm still so they only 406 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: went out, she said, and that's it. Nothing happened. 407 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: It was like a that's what she said, that's what 408 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, Okay, yeah, I don't know. We don't know. 409 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's what she said. So it's whatever 410 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: Stacey said. 411 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: Now watching this latest episode with Ashley and her boyfriend, 412 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: I guess she broke up with him. And that's another thing. 413 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: People thought it was really mean how she did it. 414 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: And I want to get your thoughts on that scene 415 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: where Ashley called her boyfriend Josh out there sitting down 416 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: and she's basically like, look, I don't know if your 417 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: finances are together for us to continue this situation. She's 418 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: thinking into the future. What did you think about that scene? 419 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: You know what, here's the thing. This is the thing. 420 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 2: This is the thing people love to pick and choose 421 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: what's mean and what's nice when you're telling your real life. 422 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 2: You know, people wanted to know about her dating life. Yeah, 423 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 2: so she said, okay, well this is what my dating 424 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: life is like. She had decided that she didn't want 425 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 2: to be with him anymore, and that was her decision 426 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: to tell him. If he wanted to say, hey, I'll 427 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 2: come and join you for this conversation, if he had 428 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: said no, I don't want to join you for this 429 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 2: conversation and cameras ambush him, and she's like, hey, it's 430 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: over because you're broke. Then I'd be like, oh, now, 431 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 2: that's just crazy. That's not what she did. She's like, look, 432 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 2: let's shout about it. Unfortunately. I mean I probably felt 433 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: like he was a casualty a war there. But at 434 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: the end of the day, I think she was being honest. 435 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: People wanted to know what was going on with her 436 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 2: if she ended it. She said she didn't. That's what 437 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: she did. 438 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: Right, You're like, and I'm backing happy in my relationship. 439 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: Listen, because people have to understand when real relationships, I'm 440 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: sure you have the luxury of navigating whatever's happening in 441 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 2: your life the way that you liked it, right, not 442 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 2: on cameras. You don't have a camera to kind of 443 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 2: say what's going on actually in your life or your relationship. 444 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: So it's like, these are the things that we actually 445 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: do want to see in other people. That's why I 446 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: say people pick and choose when they say, oh, we 447 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: don't want to see that, because at the end of 448 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: the day, she was still giving you what's happening in 449 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 2: her life. 450 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: Now, Okay, what are some things that you wish would 451 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: have been shown about you that didn't make it to 452 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: the final edits. 453 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, mostly like you running it back to 454 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,479 Speaker 2: us high here you go? Is this thing on? Let 455 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: me run it out? So a few things that I 456 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: wish would have been shown is that I wish that 457 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: they would have shown a lot of my conversations before 458 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: me and Wendy had the conversations that we did have. Okay, 459 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: so I think the whole thing where it just seems 460 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 2: like out of nowhere, Wendy. I actually didn't come into 461 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: the beginning of the season like, yeah, I'm gonna have 462 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: an issue with Whitney. It actually wasn't really like that. 463 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: It was really like, guys, am, I reading this right? 464 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: Is this a little shady kind of you kind of thing? 465 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 2: But it was once we got to the bloom Ball 466 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: and we were addressing. First of all, her sit down 467 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: with Giselle was something that we all could have addressed 468 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 2: because it was something that she said negatively about the 469 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: entire group. But if I'm your homegirl, you wouldn't have 470 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: an issue with me sitting down and joining it on 471 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 2: a chat whether you feel like we're in a good 472 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 2: place or a bad place. Right, If I genuinely ever 473 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: liked you I'm not gonna act like I'm not gonna 474 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: throw shade on you when you're trying to join the 475 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: chat because you don't know what I'm gonna say whether 476 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: you this is what you've already made me the villain 477 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: in your mind, That's what I'm saying. It seems like, kay, is, well, 478 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: why did you think it was gonna be that? Why 479 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: couldn't we just had a chat. But you're telling somebody 480 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: I don't want you to sit here are we cool? 481 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 2: So that we're really not cool before I can't even 482 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: get it out right. You're changing the dynamic here. You know. 483 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 2: Also another time in Nevis when I was there, I 484 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: actually gave Wendy earrings for her birthday after they made 485 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: such a big deal like, oh, you were so rude, 486 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: you left the party, and I said, you know what, 487 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: let's leave whatever issues that we had here, Let's leave 488 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: the Nevas and let's go back home and just kind 489 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: of like you know, start on a new foot. And 490 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: it's just real flip floppy. So you guys didn't see that. 491 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 2: I actually was a person that said, you know what, 492 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: I don't want us to have the beef anymore. Here's 493 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: here's my peace offering to you so that we can 494 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: kind of move on and at least be good coworkers 495 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 2: at best, you know what I mean, we could do 496 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: that at best. So though moments like that, and then 497 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: my business, you know, I don't I had a toxin 498 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 2: caveyar event. So outside of the chin check comet that 499 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: came out of that, it was beautiful. We seen my 500 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: actual real patients coming there, They. 501 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: Got service, they got services there. 502 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 2: Yet more of my business, more of the things that 503 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 2: I do, Like you see me getting the salmon sprm facial, 504 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: but that's actually my morning meet and greet with my 505 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: team to talk about sal. 506 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you need it. 507 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 2: It's peptids. It's like having the maximum skincare injected in 508 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: your face. 509 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: You want to call it something else, No, we want 510 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 1: to call it that. 511 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 2: She has a little ring to it, because then like, 512 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: what's that the thing you need? Know? Okay, we're gonna 513 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: do it together. So yeah, it's things like that my business, 514 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: you know. You know, even Greg and I think it 515 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: just seems like we just got back together. Greg and 516 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 2: I actually did therapy, you know, this season, like we 517 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: actually say, don't like being on. 518 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: This does not And that's an and so tell me, like, 519 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: how do you navigate that? Because there is a compromise, right, 520 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: that is something that you're doing. This is a job, 521 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: this is and for him, it's not a space that 522 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: he necessarily wants to be in, but he's doing it. 523 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: And I feel like maybe that added to some of 524 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: the issues y'all had earlier. 525 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 2: I don't know, but it totally did, because it's like, 526 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: you know, as a man, naturally, he has his processes. 527 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 2: You know, he wants to do things his way and 528 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 2: his privacy and his comfort. But I will say this, 529 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: You know, we have a lot of chichen about men's 530 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: and some of y'all don't even have no men. Some 531 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: of y'all are not happy with your men. Some of 532 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: you are divorced, not divorced, some of you are, some 533 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: of you are confused. You know. It's a lot to 534 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: be said here, you know. And so what I like 535 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 2: to say is do what makes you happy. But as 536 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: far as Greg showing up, I give him kudos for that, 537 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: because this is at the end of day of my job. 538 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 2: I try to navigate it the best way I can 539 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: by respecting when he's available to actually do it, you 540 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: know what I mean, making it as comfortable as possible 541 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 2: by telling him, Hey, this is what may be going on. 542 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: I just try to communicate better because my first go 543 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: round at this I just expected, like, listen, you come on, dude, 544 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 2: I say, dude, I would. He's like, I'm not doing that. 545 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, being a boss sometimes that personality is 546 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: that's hard. 547 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: There you go, because it doesn't start with him. It's 548 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 2: just knowing that this is a man, and I have 549 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: to like respect that he is a hominade to me. 550 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: You know, you got to ask are you available tomorrow? 551 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 2: Fel not. Hey, we're feeling them all from TENNI day, 552 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: like I got the kids, I got thinks of it. 553 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: So just finding the balance with respecting his time and 554 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 2: respecting the fact that he's being a willing participant. And 555 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: may I note that he has not missed any of 556 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: the events this season. He's at any and everything, whether 557 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: he mad face, said face, happy face, he is accounted for. 558 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: So let's check that that's fine. 559 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: You're happy to be here. 560 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: I know that there are some things you learned about 561 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: each other in therapy, Oh my god, about your relationship 562 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: and how to improve and make sure that you guys 563 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: stay cohesive. 564 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: So one of the things that I learned is that 565 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: I'm just supernaturally independent. Right, My happiness does come from me, 566 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: which is like a lot of people happiness sometimes come 567 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: for other people. All of my happiness comes from me, right, 568 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: So I am the center of my attention. So I 569 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: have learned in therapy that when you invite people into 570 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: your life, you have to be a lot more open 571 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: and be a lot more flexible. Like you're so used 572 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: to being a quote unquote boss or a business person. 573 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: You think that everything. So just learning to turn that 574 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: part of me off so I can submit a little 575 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 2: bit more, right, right, being open to submission, and also 576 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: just greg learning that this is who I said I 577 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: want to be with and accepting that no she's not 578 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: your traditional woman, this is what makes her happy, and 579 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: just us find in the middle ground what that looks 580 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 2: like for our household. Right. 581 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. I'm glad you made that decision and 582 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: that he was cool with. 583 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you either you couldn't accept it or you don't. 584 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: You know, did you did you film any sessions? I'm curious. 585 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 2: We actually did film one, and I feel like they 586 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: would have asked for that. They filmed it and it 587 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: was so good, and I'm so mad that y'all didn't 588 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 2: see it because it was the one time where I 589 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 2: think it shows a lot more of how I am 590 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 2: in a relationship because I think it's it makes Greg 591 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: appear to be like this super strong like he is, 592 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 2: but it's actually I have a very big personality and 593 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: you know, I have a lot to say at all times. 594 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all know. So it's like it's 595 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: Greg the problem is Ka the problem? I don't know. 596 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: But we're so much alike second to that were the 597 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,239 Speaker 2: same sign. We're so much alike that we're both Sagittarius, okaytarist. 598 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: So it's like your birthday is I'm November twenty eight 599 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: his birthday coming up? 600 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: All right, So how did y'all get back together? Like, 601 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: even girl, you ain't following this? 602 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: So how we get back together? Is that? So once 603 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: I moved out, I was actually kind of happy. I 604 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: was like, okay, this is gretch. Once I finally got 605 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: my live Connor was amazing. Once I got settled in 606 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: the condo, I was like, Okay, this is this is 607 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: this kind of like it and I think it's just 608 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: one of those things where time and he you know, 609 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: we were still in communication and then he just called 610 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 2: me one day and I was like, maybe we need 611 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: like to actually go like take a trip and actually 612 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: talk Jamaica, and like, may we know? It really was, 613 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 2: you know what, we are not complicated people like that. 614 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 2: It's like we're both very much like we can agree, 615 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: like we have our time and we'll think about it. 616 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: A trip always worked, A trip always works. 617 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: And I think the trip was like we both. 618 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: For like, never been on a trip with Josh Listen, 619 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: step it up, honey, stepped the cookies up. 620 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: We gotta get you on the trips, on the planes 621 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: and the things. But yeah, I think the trip was 622 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,479 Speaker 2: really like our moment we were like, Okay, we we 623 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: can find PC and we can find some haptics. And 624 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: then deciding to go to therapy after we went on 625 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 2: the trip, because that was really like the main consensus 626 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 2: for me. It's like, Okay, maybe we need some help 627 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 2: to mediate the issues that you and I can't resolve 628 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: on our own. 629 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: What would you say to people now that are watching 630 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: the show and they are they might have been like 631 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: I liked her before, but now that she's you know, 632 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: one of I'm not feeling her she's coming for Stacy. 633 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: She's doing this, she's got an issue with everybody. She's 634 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: making small things big deals. How would you respond to that? 635 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 2: You know what I will respond by saying, at the 636 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 2: end of the day, guys, my issues are always valid, 637 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: whether you see the full story or not. You know, 638 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: sometimes you gotta see a person's journey. I think people 639 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: are also have to realize they're watching me as a housewife, 640 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: so they there are other sides. And I'm not always 641 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: gonna be nice. I'm not always gonna talk to you nice. 642 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: But I don't start things. I'm gonna clarify that I 643 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: do not start things now. I will bring you the 644 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 2: facts after we addressed it. But I don't normally like 645 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: to think that I start things. And I think even 646 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 2: with the stacy of it all, it's like, at the 647 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: end of the day, we're all on TV, We're all 648 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 2: trying to have moment, We're all trying to have a conversation. 649 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: You know. That's what we're here to do, is express ourselves. 650 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 2: And I think people are just learning that Kate is 651 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 2: more multifaceted than just being the nice. 652 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: K they are. They gonna really be addressing, like Wendy 653 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 1: and Eddie and their issues. 654 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: Listen, I hope we address it all. You know, that's 655 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: what the reunion is for. Like, that's the open floor. 656 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: For us to be on fire. 657 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, honey, y'all just be seen to put your popcorns on, 658 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: take your wigs off. Yeah, it's gonna be take it all. Yeah, 659 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: this kid's seed in honey. Yeah. But yeah, I think 660 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: this is what the reunion is for, all of these 661 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: little small moments that you know that you don't get 662 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: to see the things that need to get addressed, things 663 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: that happen off the camera. 664 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: We feel prepared. 665 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I feel super prepared. I'm ready. I'm like 666 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: a kid on the first day of school. Baby, where's 667 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: my outfit? Yeah, I'm ready. Now. 668 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: I saw something that was posted after the whole thing 669 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: happened with Wendy. They said that you had some issues 670 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: of fraud or something. 671 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 2: Lies never had an issue with fraud. First of all, 672 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: I'm glad we're talking about this because, you know, I 673 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: try not to get into like what do they call it, 674 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 2: like smut what you know what it called it, like 675 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: smut blogging When it gets to the stuff that's like, 676 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: oh guys, you guys were deep in the trash to 677 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,239 Speaker 2: kind of make a moment. But let me address it 678 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: had nothing to do with me. I've never seen the 679 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 2: courtroom about it. You guys already know I had a 680 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: season of my life where I dated the bad boys, 681 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: right y'all know that we knew we had we had 682 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: a season in my life with Honeywore. I was like, Okay, 683 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 2: this is fun. They get all. I love it here. 684 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: We had had a season like any other girl. But listen, 685 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: I never been convicted. I never had a felony. It 686 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: was immediately dismissed because it had nothing to do with me. 687 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 2: It was really one of those catch catch a small 688 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: fish to get the big fish and had nothing to 689 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: do with me, which is why whoever was very very busy. 690 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: It actually was immediately dismissed inexpunge. So you know the 691 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: powers that be that was working overtime to try to 692 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: dig that little bit of dirt up. 693 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: God blessed well, thank you for clearing that up. So 694 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: they try to bring it up on the reunion. 695 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, honey, listen, let me say something. Ain't no tea 696 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: on that, ain't no dirt on that, honey. They got 697 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: the people. It ain't had nothing to do with me. 698 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: It was dismissed. I ain't had no foundies. They got 699 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: to pay people. God bless him. Listen, I don't have 700 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: no felonies, no melodies. I ain't got no fraud. I 701 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: didn't need to do fraud. And let me just be clear, 702 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: I literally have been a business owner my entire life, 703 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: even just be in position to be able to buy 704 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: my business, sell my business within my family. This is 705 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: what I do. 706 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: Okay, So this is coming to her if you because 707 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: I could have helped a few people out, so you 708 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: didn't have to get that a little bit of a 709 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: chow cold once to get assessive. All right, okay, well 710 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: we're locked in. Thank you so much for coming on. 711 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: This was a pleasure to talk to you, and I 712 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: appreciate just how cool you were to talk to and yeah, 713 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: just open about everything. 714 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Now. I appreciate you asking me the 715 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: questions this, honey, one thing. The girl's always try to 716 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: gag you, but I live in my truth. 717 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, let's see. 718 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: What happens next. I'm waiting to way up