1 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory, 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: presented by Fox One. I'm chan Ler Room, joined by 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Tyler Stafford. And if you saw us earlier today, No 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: you didn't. We definitely didn't do a podcast five hours ago, 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: and then all hell broke loose as soon as we 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: finished recording. Noe. That's exactly what happened. Welcome to an 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: emergency pod. I wouldn't call it a house cleaning, Tyler, 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: but the Astros you wanted changes, and you got them. 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: The Astros enacting some sweeping changes within both their front 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: office and their coaching staff. Assistant general manager Andrew Ball 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: will not return to the team. Head athletic trainer Jeremiah 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: Randall will not return to the team. Catching coach Michael 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: Collins will not return to the team. And then I 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: think the two names that have been talked about for 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: a long long time, at least the last two or 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: three months, hitting coaches Snicker and Alex s and Tron 17 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: will not return to the team either. Uh, Tyler, we 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: knew changes were gonna come. We knew even when the 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: even when the Astros you know, said that Joe A. 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: Spotta and Dana Brown would return for twenty twenty six. 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: You knew they weren't gonna run it back completely, but 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: anything surprised you about what came out today, what was 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: reported and these these these overhauls that are happening. 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: I didn't know that there was a catching coach. I 25 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: learned that today. Apologies to that man for learning about 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: him today. No, I mean this is kind of what 27 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: you expected. You know, we can get into the the 28 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: weeds of it here in a bit. As we talked 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 2: about all year, and as Josh talks about all the time, 30 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: the coaches aren't the ones in the box, you know, 31 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: they they can only do so much. But when the 32 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: Astros offense in particular felt like it underperformed to the 33 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: level that it did this season, you know, if you're 34 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: keeping your GM and your manager, it does make a 35 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: lot of sense to change some other things up. 36 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 37 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: I mean it's interesting because as we talked about, you know, 38 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, Snicker and Sinron were the 39 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: talk of the league, and you know, the Ashers have 40 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: the best offense of all time, and what are they 41 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: doing And turns out is they had a lot better 42 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: players at the time. It's probably pretty easy to coach 43 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: when you can run out the twenty nineteen Astros lineup. 44 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean there's no beating around the bush. 45 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: The Ashes just did not perform to the level that 46 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: they expected to this year. And a lot of it, 47 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: certainly as far as the things that they can control, 48 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: you know, injuries, notwithstanding the hitting certainly was the main 49 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: culprit when you look back at this year, what we're 50 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: not going to do? 51 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: At least us I would And I don't sit here 52 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: and lecture people a lot. All these guys, all these 53 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: people that lost their jobs today, Like they're all they 54 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: all have families, they're all human beings. But what shouldn't 55 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: be done. This should not be a dance on the 56 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: grave kind of situation. I know people were frothing at 57 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: the mouth to get some of these guys out of here, 58 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: just given the way the season went. And that's understandable. 59 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: That's part of being a fan. I get it. I'm 60 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: a fan of other teams that are not, you know, 61 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: affiliated with them, and I think that I think the 62 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: same way, So I get it, But dancing on graves 63 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: is probably not the way to go about it. I 64 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: don't feel qualified enough to talk about Jeremiah Randall, the 65 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: head athletic trainer, and his and his departure. His contract 66 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: expired after the season and it was not renewed again. 67 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: We've Tyler. We spent so much time talking about all 68 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: their injuries all season, and I think every time we 69 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: discussed and we said, you know, we don't know what's 70 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: going on because we're not doctors. We didn't go to 71 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: medical school. I don't know. Maybe you did. Maybe you 72 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: went to like some black market underground that school. Okay, 73 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: you didn't good. 74 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: I was bad at playing operation. I couldn't even do that. 75 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't take a math class in college, so 76 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: I don't think I would have. 77 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: Did they offer those at LSU? 78 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: Uh? You get to go count the crawfish's counting crawfish 79 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: and then that's that's your math class. So look, I 80 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: can't sit here and say with any authority like what 81 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: Jeremiah Randall like did I mean obviously, like we know 82 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: what ahead athletic trainers responsibilities are. I can't sit here 83 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: and tell you. And this is the case with all 84 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: of these you know moves. Just because they got rid 85 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: of the hitting coaches doesn't mean that the offense is 86 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: going to come back next year and be the best 87 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: offense in baseball. Just because they got rid of the 88 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: head athletic trainer doesn't mean that, you know, guys are 89 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: going to rehab easier and they're going to get guys back, 90 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: and guys are going to stop getting injured. Like this 91 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: is a holistic kind of process, And like we said 92 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: on the pod earlier today, like I'm sure that they 93 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: have already enacted some changes and what they do from 94 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: a medical standpoint, what they do from a medical staff standpoint, 95 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: that will probably never hear about. So, you know, I 96 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: think it's one of these things where with Jeremiah, you know, 97 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: he and really all these guys, I think the one 98 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: thing that has stood out to me about since all 99 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: this stuff transpired, Jeremi Randall had been with the Astro 100 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: since twenty fifteen, Michael Collins had been with the Astros 101 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: since two thousand and eighteen. Troy Snicker and Alex Centron 102 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: had both been in the organization since at least two 103 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: thy and sixteen, but it had been on the coaching staff, 104 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: the major league coaching staff since twenty and eighteen or 105 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Excuse me, it's that's the you know, that's 106 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: the time that they were hitting coaches. That's a lot 107 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: of guys that have been here a while. And you know, 108 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: for as much as there's been turnover, like they've had 109 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: three gms, they've had three managers, like, there has not 110 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: been a ton of turnover within anything below them. It 111 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: has been a very you know, it's been a very 112 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: rarely of they hire guys from the outside. It's been 113 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: a lot of homegrown coaches that they've promoted through centromes 114 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: like that. Snicker was like that, Josh Miller, Bill Murphy, 115 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: the pitching coaches are like that, and Tyler. I wonder if, honestly, 116 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: like like obviously, like the injury prevention was a problem, 117 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: the hitting was a problem, But I wonder, honestly, if 118 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: it's maybe kind of more of get a fresh set 119 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: of eyes in here, get a fresh voice, a fresh perspective, 120 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: of a fresh perspective. And I'm not at all sitting 121 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: here saying that there was complacency. I don't believe that 122 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: at all. I don't believe any of these guys that 123 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: lost their jobs or that aren't returning or were victims 124 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: of becoming complacent or victims of becoming you know, too comfortable. 125 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: But when you do have the same people and the 126 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: same message for a long period of time, sometimes it 127 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: gets stale. And I'm not sitting here saying that that 128 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: happened in this case. But sometimes change is good. Sometimes 129 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: just a different perspective, a different voice, a different set 130 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: of eyes can be helpful. And I do wonder if 131 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: that had something to do with this as well, just 132 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: getting a fresh voice and a fresh perspective that maybe 133 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: they hadn't considered before. Yeah. 134 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: And when you think about too, the players that they've 135 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: been coaching are completely different too. And so when you 136 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: talk about like hitting philosophy, I mean, as we've talked 137 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: about ad nauseum all season, You're hitting philosophy is to 138 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: get the best out of the players that you have 139 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: in front of you. It's silly to say like we're 140 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: going to come in and as a team, we're going 141 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: to do this better, or you know, this is what 142 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: we want our team to look like. What you do 143 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: is you look at the guys that you have and 144 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: you try to maximize that talent. I think the Astros 145 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: have done that really well. On the pitching side of 146 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: saying this guy's coming in, he throws this pitch really well, 147 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: we're going to focus on that. Here's how we're gonna 148 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: you know, tweak things. But like, this is the plan 149 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: for this guy. It's not like they coming in the 150 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: season and say we want our pitching staff to strike 151 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: out more better than anybody, you know. It's it's not 152 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: or we want to throw harder, or we want everybody's 153 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: fastball to look like this, Like they look at this 154 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: player and say, all right, here's what they do. Well, 155 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: here's what we're going to focus on. Here's what we're 156 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: gonna improve. And to your point, these these coaches have 157 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: been in the same position for a long time, but 158 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: outside of Altuve and jord On, none of none of 159 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: the guys that they originally built their kind of you know, 160 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: philosophy around, are still here. You know, so you you 161 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: do have to kind of change your approach as as 162 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: new people come in. And yeah, I mean it just 163 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: it hadn't been working clearly for the whole season. And honestly, 164 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: like I I outside of Esac Parades, who we'll get 165 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: to in a little bit, actually essentially performed at exactly 166 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: the level that you would expect Esac Parades to come into. 167 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: We'll kind of dive into the projections and who underperformed, 168 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 2: who overperformed that kind of stuff here in a bit, 169 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: But can you can you remember a hitter from outside 170 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 2: of the organization coming in and improving significantly in the 171 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: last few years. I'm sure there are some that That's 172 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: not me like asking a loaded question. I'm just saying 173 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: I can't, off the top of my head point to 174 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: Danny Well. 175 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, people are gonna point to Josea Brady 176 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: and Christian Walker, Like I can't sit here and blame 177 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: t Roy Sniker Alex Centron for Josea Brady and Christian 178 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: Walker two guys. 179 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: And their grown men who have been around for a 180 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: long time. 181 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: Right that were established big leaguers and that just came here, 182 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, Joseah Bray who just lost it, and Christian 183 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: Walker just did not have a good first season. I 184 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: don't know how much of that goes on the hitting coaches, 185 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: because like, like we have talked about, like baseball players 186 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: are very hard to get them to change, much like 187 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: if they've gotten to the pinnacle of their profession doing 188 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: something one way, like you're not going to get them 189 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: to completely overhaul everything that has gotten them to the 190 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: major leagues just on a whin. It's going to take 191 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: proof of concept. It's going to take you know, a 192 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 1: lot of points and data points, and they don't have 193 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: to see the results happen. And then if the results 194 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: aren't happening, what are they going to do. They're going 195 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: to revert back to what's comfortable for them. So it's 196 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: kind of you know, I got destroyed last week when 197 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: a clip that we had, you know, went up and 198 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: I said the same thing about the hitting coaches, and 199 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, I just I have a hard time believing 200 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: whoever comes in here is going to get some of 201 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: these guys to just completely be like passive takes till 202 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: they get two strikes, like start like putting up those 203 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: sort of plate appearances. Like I have a hard time 204 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: believe that maybe it happens. Maybe I'm maybe I just 205 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm talking about, and maybe it happens. 206 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: But you know, to answer your question, no one's gonna 207 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: want to hear this, but like, and I wrote about 208 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: it a lot extensively the beginning of the season, Like 209 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: when Brendan Rodgers got here, they had an emphasis on 210 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: elevating the ball and getting higher exit velocities. If you 211 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: look at everything Brendan Rodgers did from an underlying perspective 212 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: before he got hurt, everything was better. The launch angle 213 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: was better, the exit vealas were better, the everything that 214 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: they wanted to implement with him was better. It just 215 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: didn't show up in the counting stats. And again, the 216 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: count that's what matters. Like you don't get you don't 217 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: get paid, and you don't get paid the big bucks 218 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: for like elevating a guy's launch angle and he still 219 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: has an eighty ops plus like that that that doesn't work. 220 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: But I'm just telling you, like there are stuff that 221 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: they have done that's worked. Like who do you credit 222 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: Jeremy Payna's resurgence to, Yeah, credit Jake Myers's resurgence, because look, 223 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: if we're gonna do this. 224 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: In les Korea, right, that's that's who we credit Jeremy Payne. 225 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: For a little bit. But like I mean, if we're 226 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: going to do every time a guy struggles, we're gonna 227 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: bash the hitting coaches, Like we've got to also have 228 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: the other side here of Like Jake Myers had the 229 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: best season of his career. Granted there was a lot 230 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: of injuries in it, but he had the best season 231 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: of his career. Jeremy Pania had the best season of 232 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: his career, and it had been also if you look 233 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: at Jeremy Payne's underlying stuff, like his underlying metrics have 234 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: all gotten better to until this year, it had been 235 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: a gradual improvement for him, and that's part of just 236 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: naturally getting better, maturing knowing your body like that. So 237 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: I mean, can you point to like one dude coming 238 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,599 Speaker 1: here and it's like, all of a sudden he becomes unstoppable. No, 239 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: this is they don't. The astros on the hitting side 240 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: do not have the success stories like Yuseka Kuci or 241 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: Colin McHugh or Charlie Morton or Garan Ryan Presley, guys 242 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: that came here from another organization and just automatically got better. 243 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: But also like I don't know that you can compare 244 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: those two because like pitching is like it's like, hey, 245 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: throw this pitch less, throw this pitch more, change your 246 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: grip here, throw this pitch in this quadrant, Like you 247 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: can't like you can tell a guy all you want, like, hey, 248 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: only swing at four seemers like in this quadrant. And 249 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: that's a lot easier said than done, Like so, I mean, 250 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: I understand the frustration, and I understand where it comes from. 251 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: But I think it is worth remembering that Troy Snicker 252 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: and Alex Centron were the Astros hitting coaches for seven seasons, 253 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: and in that stretch those seven seasons, cumulatively, the Astros 254 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: had the highest OPS in the American League, the highest 255 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: batting average in the American League, the highest on base 256 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: percentage in the American League, and the lowest strikeout rate 257 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: in baseball for those entire like, again, good, how much? 258 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: But again, how much do you credit that to the 259 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: personnel that they had and how much do you credit 260 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: that to the coaches? Because it seems now that they 261 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: were not good for the last year and a half, 262 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: it's all the coaches fault. But we never heard Troy 263 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: Snicker Alex Centron's name in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, twenty 264 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: twenty one, and twenty two, when these lineups were really good. 265 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: It was all about, oh my god, Jordan Alvarez is 266 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: the greatest rookie we've ever seen. It's it's Michael Brantley's 267 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: like the professional hitter, it's Kyle Tucker. Like I just 268 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: think that there's a there's a happy medium that I 269 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: don't think anyone wants to get in because it's not 270 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: conducive for clicks. It's not going do so for content 271 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: like like it's a balance like the players are responsible 272 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: for it, the coaches are responsible for I don't think 273 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: you can put it on just one side in this equation. 274 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you know again, I certainly would 275 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: not want that's a sweet coffee mug. I like the 276 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: bluebellt one, I like the gold Ram beautiful. 277 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: Uh. 278 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: Look, it's gonna be the same lineup next year, So 279 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: that's the other part of the I mean close, it's 280 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: gonna be relatively similar to what they put out this year. 281 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: And if you weren't able to fix it this year, 282 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: I do see the argument of okay, well, maybe bring 283 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: in some fresh eyes, like you said, and you know, 284 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: have somebody else take a look and see what you 285 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: can get out, because you know, if it, if it 286 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: didn't work over a whole year for most of these guys, 287 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: then I don't know how much you would expect to 288 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: change going into the next season. 289 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: Again, I just want to I just want to put 290 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: in perspective what the Astros ran out there this year. 291 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: We've talked about this among the astros within the top 292 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: fifty in the sport and swing rate, Josel Tuove, Mauricio Dubon, 293 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: Cam Smith, Christian Walker, the Ainer Diaz, and Jeremy Panha. 294 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: That's six players in the top fifty that within the 295 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: top fifty swing rates in baseball. Theiner Diaz, Mauricio Dubon, 296 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: Josel Tuve, and Jeremy Pania all chased outside the strike 297 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: zone at least thirty five point three percent of the time. 298 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: Christian Walker's chase rate spiked from twenty four point two 299 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: percent to twenty eight point four percent this year, so 300 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: he had a precipitous uptick and chase. Remember all those guys, 301 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: I just said. 302 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the coaches are encouraging that either. 303 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: And also, but so Christian Walker, jose Al Tuve, Jeremy Panya, 304 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: Cam Smith, and Jiner Diaz all in those categories I 305 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: just talked about. They took the five most play appearances 306 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: of anybody on the team. Yep. Like you can. You 307 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 1: can cry and moan and complain about the coaching all 308 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: you want, this is just who they had. Like they 309 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: had a lot of guys with the same offensive profile, 310 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of those guys took most of the 311 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: at bats for this team, and this was the result. 312 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: You know, you cannot overlook you're on and Alvarez being 313 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: out for as long as he was, he sacked Paradis 314 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: not playing for the last you know, month and a 315 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: half before he came back on the final series of 316 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: the year. Like they got esocked Paradis in part just 317 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: so he would see pitches, and he did a wonderful 318 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: job of that while he was healthy. And you know, 319 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: I just again, like I can't sit here and in 320 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: good conscience just say the hitting coaches are gone. They're 321 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: gonna get a new voice in and they're gonna all 322 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden see four pitches average, seeing four pitches 323 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: per played appearance as a team, as each hitter on 324 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: the team. They're gonna not strike out, They're gonna you know, 325 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: foul everything off, and they're gonna be the best offense 326 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: in baseball. Like, I don't think those two things are 327 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: just complete parallels. Like there's some personnel problems that they 328 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: have to address as well, but it's pretty clear that 329 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: Dana Brown and Joe Spota also thought a new voice 330 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: and a new philosophy could help. 331 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think both of those things can be true. 332 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 2: That a new voice might help. And also you know 333 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: that that's the team that ran out there, and there's 334 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: not a whole lot that you can do to change, 335 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: you know, who those those hitters are, like we talked 336 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: about all year, like Yiner is not going to come 337 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: in the next year and see six pitches per played 338 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 2: appearance and take the first three Like that's not gonna happen. 339 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: Ozel Tuve isn't going to do that. Dubond certainly is. 340 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: You know, all of those things, those things aren't going 341 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: to change. The counter argument is then you say, okay, well, 342 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: if if that's not going to change, then maybe instead 343 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: of being passively selective, you could be aggressively selective of 344 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: look to swing every pitch, but only if it's your pitch. 345 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: And this you know, like we said, those are easier 346 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: said than done. But maybe a new voice coming in 347 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 2: and you know, with a new plan and new philosophy 348 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: can help unlock parts of those in there. But yeah, 349 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: we'll we'll have to see. And of course too, at 350 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: the major league level, the hitting coaches are less even 351 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: about tinkering with swings and that it's a lot of 352 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 2: the scouting and how to attack these pitchers and things 353 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: like that. So a lot of it you're not even 354 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: going to see anyway, because it's the way that they 355 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: do the scouting and and how you're prepping for and 356 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 2: it bad and this guy likes to throw this pitch 357 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: in this count in this situation, and you're good at 358 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: hitting this pitch, so look for it. And you know, 359 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: it's a lot of that kind of stuff that you're 360 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: never gonna see or hear about anyway, but those changes 361 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: could certainly help, you know as well. 362 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, because, like I 363 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: think there is kind of a miss. There's like a 364 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: misguided thought of like what a hitting coach does. And 365 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: we've talked about it with Josh before too, Like yeah, 366 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: like hitting coaches can help like with swing, like if 367 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: they notice swing adjustments, if they notice things and mechanics 368 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: or load or kind of how like hand placement, all 369 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: that they can. They can do that stuff like between games, 370 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: but like one of their bigger like like if you 371 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: watch an Astro's game, like whenever a new pitch when 372 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: they're calling in from the bullpen, like the two things 373 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: you see on the dugout rail where Alex Centron and 374 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: Troy snicker with iPads that were like going over the 375 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: guy coming in his tendency and like, hey, he's gonna 376 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: throw this here, he's gonna like there. That's a lot 377 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: of stuff too, and it's in game adjustments. It's how 378 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: to approach and attack the next pitch, the next pitcher, 379 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: and you know what, like there were times this year 380 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: where I didn't think they adjusted welling games, and I 381 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: think I would almost take that as a more valid 382 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: criticism of the hitting coaches this year. Then maybe like 383 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: specific guys underperformed because there were I mean, Tyler, how 384 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: many games did we watch where you know, Starter gets 385 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: the first time through the order, and he carved him 386 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: up the first time through, and then the second time through. 387 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: You didn't really see a ton of like noticeable palpable adjustments, 388 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: Like you didn't see great in game adjustments and things 389 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: like that. So I would maybe point to that as 390 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: a more valid criticism of the hitting coaches. But you know, 391 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: while we're talking about it, we're gonna keep talking about 392 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: the hitting coaches. As you know, that is everybody wants 393 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: candidates to like guys I can almost guarantee you the 394 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: hitting coaches that they hire you will have never heard 395 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: their names before the release comes out. 396 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 2: Like there are this is not a name another hitting 397 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: coach in Major League Baseball. 398 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: This is not like college football or NFL or like 399 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: there's coordinator candidates and there's like up and coming guys 400 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: that like want to be managers. So like they're going 401 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: to start out as the hitting coach, Like very rarely 402 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: do you see that. So like, I'm not going to 403 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: sit here and give you a ton of candidates. There 404 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: are none really that I know of. There's some internal candidates. 405 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if they'd want to go internal. I 406 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: don't know if they'd want to look from the outsider. 407 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: I think they're going to cast a wide net here. 408 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: But we'll keep uh, we'll keep talking about the hitting 409 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: coaches as part of our DraftKings spotlight, Tyler. You know, 410 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: we talked about the personnel, right. The personnel, to me 411 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: was the main issue of why the Astros offense did 412 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: not perform the way it needed to perform this year. 413 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: But injuries can't be discounted either. Jordan A. When you 414 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: only have Jordon Alvas for forty eight games, your your 415 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: lineup's not gonna look great when you've got jose Al 416 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: Tuvey who's nearing, who's thirty five years old now and 417 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: not ages catching up with them A little bit like 418 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: that's not gonna help either. When the guys that take 419 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: the most played appearances on your team, as we talked about, 420 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: are the same offensive profile, you're going to run into 421 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: the same sort of problems. But again, I think it 422 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: was one of these things. I think scapegoat is a 423 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: strong word, but it was clear something had to happen. 424 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: And I think I called Centron Snicker sacrificial lambs and 425 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,239 Speaker 1: my story, and I think that pretty much suffices what 426 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: this was. 427 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, quick rundown on personnel, and you know how they 428 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: performed relative to expectations. So Fangrafts has their ZIPS projections 429 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: pre season where they project out the season. I looked 430 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: at their stat WRC plus, so weighted runs created plus 431 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 2: one hundred is average for the league. Above that is better, 432 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: below that is worse. There was essentially one player that 433 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: way out performed there's ZIPS projection. That's Jeremy Panya. He 434 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: went from a one oh four projected WRC plus to 435 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 2: one thirty five, so a significant improvement. I think anyone 436 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: that watched the Ashes this year knew that, uh, two 437 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: guys did better than expected. That's Jake Myers who went 438 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: from one oh one to one oh seven and Victor 439 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: Karantini who went from ninety to one oh four. So 440 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: those three guys did better than their projection. Then they 441 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: have three guys in their lineup who essentially did what 442 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: you expect. So Easak Prades went from one thirty to 443 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: one twenty eight. That's basically the same number, especially with 444 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 2: the injuries he had Korea preseason, was projected at one 445 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: twenty seven. I only looked at w the Astros he 446 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: was at one twenty two, and then Altuve went from 447 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: one twenty to one thirteen, so a little dip, but 448 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: again nothing significant. The two biggest downgrades are the ones 449 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 2: that we all know already and you know I don't. 450 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: I don't need to tell you, but Christian Walker went 451 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: into the season with a one twenty projected WRC plus 452 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: he ended at ninety nine, and Yaner Diaz was at 453 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: one thirteen and ended at ninety two. All of that 454 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: to say, essentially, the team outside of Yaner Diaz and 455 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: Christian Walker performed at or better than what they were 456 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: projected to do coming into the season. I left jord 457 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: On out of this. He obviously was hurt for most 458 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: of the year. He way underperformed what his expected numbers are, 459 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 2: but his expected numbers are insane, and he only played 460 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: like forty games and only like twenty of them. He 461 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: didn't have a broken hand, so I'm not going to 462 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: count that against him. But my point is this is 463 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: I agree with you that a lot of it, I 464 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: think is just personnel, Like the Astros did not universally 465 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: underperform as individual players relative to what they were expected 466 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 2: to do coming into the season. They basically had two 467 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: guys that really cratered. But those were the two guys 468 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: that you were really counting on coming into the I mean, 469 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: you planned a lot of your lineup where Christian Walker 470 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: and Jiner Diaz were putting up good at bats, you know, 471 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 2: for most of the year, and they just didn't. And 472 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 2: I completely agree with you that. The one criticism that 473 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 2: I think you could have of the Astros is the 474 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 2: end game adjustments, and especially when when pitchers were doing 475 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: things differently than what you expected coming in. There was 476 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: a Jacob de Grom start. I remember in particular where 477 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: like he'd thrown I'm gonna get these numbers wrong, but 478 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: he'd thrown like a handful of curveball to right handed 479 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: hitters all season, and he like tripled that number in 480 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: one start against the Astros. Like clearly they the Rangers 481 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: came in with a different plan of how to attack 482 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: the Astros. The Astros didn't seem to adjust to de 483 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: Gram in that start. And then you know, throughout the 484 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: year there, like you said, there's just a lot of 485 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: times where especially young, like not good pitchers would come in. 486 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 2: I mean, who was the fellow that accidentally almost threw 487 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 2: a no hitter against the Astros. 488 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: Game, Brandon Young? 489 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: Maybe, sure, not a person that I had heard of, 490 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 2: And it seemed like the Astros hadn't heard of him either, 491 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: and certainly did not make adjustments in game to attack 492 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: what was happening there. So I don't know all that 493 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: to say, like, look, the hitting coaches are not going 494 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: to magically make every hitter different and better than than 495 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: who they are. And overall, the Astros did not grossly 496 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: underperform what you would expect. But as a team, when 497 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: you look at them as a lineup nine guys, you know, 498 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 2: rolling over throughout the season, there there definitely seemed to 499 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: be just some issues with readjusting to what was happening 500 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 2: in that specific game. When you really drill down at 501 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: the at the micro level. 502 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a like I said, a holistic 503 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: problem that two guys lost their jobs because of. But 504 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: it's it's much deeper than that, and it's something that 505 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: Dana Brown, Joe Espada and the entire organization is gonna have, 506 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,239 Speaker 1: you know, the next three months to to really look at, 507 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: to look over because this is not again, this is 508 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: not a I used the word panacea last time, and 509 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: I like that words. I'm gonna use it again. It's 510 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: not a panacea. Just getting rid of Troy Snicker and 511 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: Alex Centron. So they've got a lot to look at, 512 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: They've got a lot to to parse through. Yeah, it's 513 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a it's gonna be a winter a lot, 514 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: a long winter of self reflection that doesn't just end 515 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: with the decisions that were made today. Football is back, 516 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: and so is your shot at big wins. With DraftKings 517 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: Pick six, the official daily fantasy partner of the NFL, 518 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: your game day instincts can score you real money fast. 519 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: Here's the play. Just pick more or less on two 520 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: or more player stats and unlock the upside. 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I first of all, like 539 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: some semantics here, I think almost every move that was 540 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: made today was was a product of a contract being 541 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: up and not being renewed. So I guess technically that's 542 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: not a dismissal or a firing, but just they're not 543 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: being retained or brought back. Again, semantics here, but it 544 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: sounds a little bit better. It's pretty clear that Yaner 545 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: Diaz's defense didn't maybe take the step forward that the 546 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: Ashers were hoping it would, So I don't know that 547 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: you can correlate that directly to Michael Collins. They did 548 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 1: move Michael Collins into the dugout this year and last year, 549 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: I believe too, to help out with Jiner, to help 550 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: him game plan, to help him, you know, just manage 551 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: stuff in games. So you know, Michael Collins is a 552 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: great guy, by the way, wish him all the best 553 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: going for all these all these people today that that 554 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: that were that departed for good people, all all very 555 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: great to work with. I enjoyed my time with all 556 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: of them. Should be noted too that Andrew Ball, the 557 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: a GM that was let go or that didn't have 558 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: his contract Renude. Part of his job description was overseeing. 559 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: Uh I I was gonna say, I'm gonna read I'm 560 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: gonna read that job because I did not know Andrew 561 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: ball and as you said, I'm sure he's a very 562 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: nice person. His job description, I can see how this is. 563 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 2: If you're gonna make a move in the front office, 564 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: this is probably the one you're gonna do, says Andrew 565 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: ball Is in his fourth season as assistant general manager 566 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: for the Astros. In his role, he assustaina brown with 567 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: all aspects of baseball operations, primarily focusing on major league 568 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 2: roster management, player evaluation and procurement, contract negotiations, and rules compliance. 569 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: He also oversees research and development and sports medicine and performance. 570 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: So that I mean that hits on a lot of 571 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: the issues that the Astros have this year. Again, I'm 572 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 2: not remotely saying that that falls solely on the head 573 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: of one man, But when you look at the Astros' 574 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: issues this year, a lot of it was how they 575 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: developed talent at the major level who they identified both 576 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: in the trade deadline and before the year, the contracts 577 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: they handed out, and the sports medicine aspect of things. 578 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 2: So that one makes sense and perspective. 579 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: I will say that I got I got two texts 580 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: today from people that work in other front offices that 581 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: called Andrew Ball quote the most competent agm they have. 582 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: I don't want that to sound like a slight on 583 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: Gavin Dickie and Charles Cook, the other two assistant general 584 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: manager with the Astros. They're both great at their jobs, 585 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: and they're both very widely regarded within the industry. I've 586 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: heard a lot of good things about them as well. 587 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: But Andrew Ball is really well thought of around the league. 588 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: He was Dana's go to for a lot of and 589 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: Dana has been pretty forthright about this that. You know, 590 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: you got to remember where Dana came from. You got 591 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: to remember what his responsibilities were at all his other stops. 592 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: Was a lot in the amateur scouting, was a lot 593 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: into the draft and the player evaluation side of things, 594 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: like he very rarely had to, like to be honest 595 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: with you make roster booths. He didn't have to deal 596 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: with the major league roster you know, every day. He 597 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: didn't have to deal with you know, major league rules, 598 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: if you will, like roster rules, like payroll rules, things 599 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: like just the nitty gritty kind of house cleaning stuff that, like, 600 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: it's just stuff that you have to follow. Dana didn't 601 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: have much experience with that. That's where Andrew Ball came in. 602 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: Like Andrew Ball was a god sent for Dana in 603 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: terms of rules, in terms of making roster moves, in 604 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: terms of you know, knowing the calendar, things like that, 605 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: just different stuff that Dana just had not been exposed 606 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: to at his other stops. So they played off of 607 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: each other pretty well. I was honestly kind of surprised 608 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: to see that news today just because I know how 609 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: invaluable Andrew had become to Dana, just in terms of 610 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, knowing you know, it's gonna sound really odd, 611 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: like knowing, hey you can call this guy up today, 612 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: or hey, like you can you know, look we can't. 613 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: We can't send this guy down today because of this 614 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: clause in his contract, or like this clause says this, 615 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: this says something different, Like Dana just wasn't exposed to 616 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: that in Atlanta or in his other previous stops. So 617 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: Andrew was big for him in that regard. So I'm 618 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: I assume or I would think Dana has a better 619 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: grip on that now being ahead of a baseball operations 620 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: department now for three full seasons, So maybe he'll get 621 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: someone of Andrew's ilk. And look, there's people you know 622 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: down in the front office that are just as good 623 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: at that kind of stuff, Guys like Will Sharp, guys 624 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: like Anthony CACCIONI that those are guys that that could 625 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: help out in Andrew's absence. But I was a little 626 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: surprised to see Andrew Ball being caught up in that 627 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: as well. One thing I'm also going to say, because 628 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: I keep getting I keep getting comments and responses about it, 629 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: Michael Brantley is not gonna be this team's hitting coach. No, 630 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: Why why would he want to do that? Like he's 631 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: he retired to live in Port Saint Lucy, where he 632 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: makes his off season home and watch his kids grow up. 633 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: Why would he want the hassle of going on the 634 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: roads for one hundred and ten nights a year as 635 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: a hitting coach. And also, like, it just proves to 636 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: me that I'm not sure people know what a hitting 637 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: coach is, Like what makes a good hitting coach? Like? Who? 638 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: Like what if Michael Brantley like can't teach hitting? Like 639 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: he's just a really good hitter, like it was a 640 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: really good hitter his whole life. Like remember when Jeff 641 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 1: Bagwell was a hitting coach, like in the two thousands, 642 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: twenty ten's like talking to people that were around, talking 643 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 1: to people that were around at the time. It literally 644 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: was one of those situations like Jeff Bagwell was so 645 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: good at baseball, Like it's hard to tell guys that 646 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: are not as talented as you, And that's no slight 647 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: to the guys on that team, Like Jeff Bagwell's just 648 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 1: really good. It's hard to tell guys that are less 649 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: talented than you, like, hey, do it like I did it, 650 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: because that that's impossible a lot of times. So no, 651 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: I do not think Michael Brantley is going to be 652 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 1: this team's hitting coach. I think this team's hitting coach 653 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: or hitting coaches will be guys that I would not 654 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: be surprised if you know, Joe tries to look at 655 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 1: coaches that are currently still in the playoffs, that are 656 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: on staffs right now that are either playing in the 657 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 1: playoffs or just got eliminated or things like that. I think, 658 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 1: and then get back to what I was saying earlier. 659 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: You know, I really think getting a new voice and 660 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 1: just getting a new set of eyes in here after 661 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: having seven to ten years in some cases of the 662 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: same voice, the same philosophy, and the same kind of 663 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: you know being, I think it would be advantageous for 664 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: them to get some new blood in here, just to 665 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: kind of lay some fresh eyes on things. 666 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 2: Yep, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, my Michael 667 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 2: Branley does not want to come coach unless maybe they 668 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 2: build him like a fishing pond in the dugout where 669 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 2: he can do that. But I think he's good on that, 670 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 2: and I agree, like the the best coaches are the 671 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 2: ones who you know, know how to who teach it 672 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 2: to someone else. And also, as we've talked about with 673 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: the with the way baseball has moved, major league hitters 674 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 2: are not going to their major league hitting coaches for 675 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 2: swing adjustments for those types of things. They're going to 676 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 2: them for scouting reports and you know, plans of attack 677 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 2: and you know those types of things. So you probably 678 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 2: just want some nerd you've never heard of before, who's 679 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 2: the hitting coach like that? That's honestly probably what you want. 680 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 2: You know, success in the big leagues very rarely translates 681 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 2: to success as a as a coach. 682 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 1: You're right. And I will also remind you before we 683 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: get out of here, as we've done numerous times, a 684 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: lot of these guys work with their own personal hitting 685 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: coaches too. A lot of these guys in the off 686 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: season go to different facilities. When Alex Bregman was here, 687 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: an he's in Boston, like he traveled with his own 688 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: hitting coach. So like, yes, major league hitting coaches are important, 689 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: but they're not the end all be all for a 690 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: lot of these guys. But as we said at the beginning, 691 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: it's a tough day just in the organization, just around 692 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: the organization. A lot of guys are not I mean, 693 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: this is not fun. Like I know fans wanted this 694 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: to happen, and I know fans there are some fans 695 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: that are excited and about what could be next. But 696 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 1: this is a tough day, tough day in the organization, 697 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: tough day all around. Tough day for Joe A. Spot 698 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,919 Speaker 1: and Dana Brown who had to deliver some some tough 699 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: news to some guys. In Joe's case that he's worked 700 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: with his entire astros Tenure and Snicker, Centron Collins and 701 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: and and Jeremiah Randalls. So thank you for tuning back 702 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: into this emergency episode. You can follow me on Exit 703 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: Chandler Underscore Room. 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