1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Betting Pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: your bets. It is me Joey P joe P Zapia, 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: and it's time to look ahead for the games in 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: week and nine in the NFL. Some really good value 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: last week early on, we nailed the Cincinnati Bengals. We 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: also nailed the under on the Jets Giants, which wasn't 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: too hard, but still we nailed that one anyway, and 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: a few other gems. A few things did not go 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: our way, but that's okay. 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So let's 27 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: do that. Let's bet smart here, and let's start with 28 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: Thursday night football, always a fun place to start. I 29 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: guess we're gonna get Mitchell Trubisky for this game. I 30 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: don't know, it's early, so we'll not sure what we're 31 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: gonna figure out here. But Will Levis we are going 32 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: to get again in Week nine in the NFL. Will 33 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: Levis somehow was the cheap coat unlocking DeAndre Hopkins. Who'd 34 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: have thought the number for this game, gentlemen, is thirty six. 35 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: Right now, the Pittsburgh Steelers are three point favorites at 36 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: home against Tennessee. If you like Tennessee for the upset 37 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: plus one thirty that's available as well. Pat let's take 38 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: a look at this game here. I know Levis exceeded 39 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: all expectations the Pittsburgh Steelers. The injury to Kenny Pickett 40 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: really kind of ruined that opportunity for them to win 41 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: at home against Jacksonville. So what do you make out 42 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: of this early line that you see so far? 43 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: I can't in good conscience take these dealers here, Joe, 44 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: like they've just burned me too many times. And I 45 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: thought it was such a good spot for them coming 46 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: out of the by against the Jaguars. I thought they 47 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: would circle the wagons and have their act together, and 48 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: that really wasn't the case. So are they going to 49 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: write the ship in three days? I'm skeptical, But at 50 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: the same time, I also worry that the encore for 51 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: will Levis won't go as well as the debut. So 52 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I see any value here to 53 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: either side. But I've already bet the under. I think 54 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 2: we could see one of the lowest totals of the 55 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: year in this game. It's thirty six and a half 56 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: was the open. I think it's going to continue to 57 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: go down, so I wanted to grab it at thirty 58 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: six and a half. I think it goes down to 59 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: thirty six, maybe thirty five and a half before kickoff 60 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: on Thursday. 61 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, the under is my early lean on this one, 62 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: as well, Sam, maybe they can petition to wear the 63 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: Oilers jerseys every week. Maybe that's the thing for Will Levis. 64 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: If I was in that's what I'd be doing. What 65 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: about you here in this one, Sam? Do you think 66 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: the Unders a way to go? You think maybe just 67 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: keep rolling with Bill Levis and Hopkins and the Titans 68 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: on the money line. 69 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: I think that if you're going to back the Titans, 70 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: the money line is the way to go, because you're 71 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: sort of betting into the variance of Will Levis, not 72 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 3: you know, totally knowing what he is at this point. 73 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 4: It was kind of weird. Vraybel came out. 74 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: This morning and said that Levis was the starter, but 75 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 3: then I think he said that he was going to 76 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 3: be the starter if Tannehill couldn't go. So I don't 77 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: know if that's him trying to lead on that Tannehill 78 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: is maybe healthier for the trade deadline that's coming tomorrow. 79 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: But I do think that the Titans, again in this 80 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: spot with a thirty six point total, are an incredible 81 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: teaser leg seizing him out to eight and a half. 82 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: You know you've got the wrong teaser aspect of this. 83 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: I don't see a situation where the Steelers are blowing 84 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: out this Titans team. 85 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna go to Germany for a big 86 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: game here. This was a fun one. The Cads City 87 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: Chiefs coming off a very tough loss here, they are 88 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: six and two. They'll take on the six and two 89 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. So fifteen and a half is the number 90 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: for this one. Miami on the money line is plus 91 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: one twenty five. But as one would imagine, the Kansas 92 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: City Chiefs two and a half point favorites. Now, Sam 93 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: in this game yesterday, obviously it was a little rough 94 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: sledding there for Patrick Mahomes. He was ill, he was 95 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: playing through it. He did not look quite like himself, 96 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: I think, in this game. But no excuses. It was 97 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: not a good loss for them on the road against Denver. 98 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: Now you got to travel from Denver, you gotta go 99 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: all the way to Germany. What kind of impact you 100 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: think this has on Kansas City and on this line 101 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: potentially as the week goes on. 102 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: I think the line's about right. I made this Kansas 103 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 3: City three and a half, and after thinking about it more, 104 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: I think Kansas City being on the other side of 105 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: three makes a lot more sense for me. The early 106 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: lean I have is to bet the under. I mean 107 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: this is these are two teams that are have some 108 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 3: great offenses. But I've talked a lot about recently how 109 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: well the Chiefs defense has been playing. The Dolphins defense 110 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: is getting a little better. They got Jalen Ramsey back 111 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: this past week. And again, Miami hasn't played a great schedule. 112 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 3: They've played the Giants, the Panthers, Patriots, and the Eagles 113 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 3: in the last four weeks so and they lost that 114 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: game against the Eagles. But I do think both of 115 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: these teams traveling abroad for the first time I remember 116 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: the last time either of these teams were abroad, but 117 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: doing so with Patrick Mahomes again coming off of the illness, 118 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 3: that offense took a little bit of a step back 119 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 3: for sure. So I leaned the under here. Fifteen and 120 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: a half is a lot, and there's a chance we 121 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 3: could see some fireworks. But I think that all of 122 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: those factors contribute to this going under. 123 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: Pat This one, to me is an individual game. I'm 124 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: looking for individual props here because I'm kind of where 125 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: Sam is. I think the Lions just feel right for 126 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: this well. They're giving Miami enough respect and also Kansas 127 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: City as well. But what are your thoughts on this one? 128 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: Do you see any early value? 129 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not really on either side. And we've 130 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: seen the Dolphins establish this pattern where they beat up 131 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: on lesser teams and then wilt against the like super 132 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 2: Bowl caliber teams, and I don't know if we'll get 133 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: that same script. The Chiefs really did not play well 134 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: against the Broncos. That's an understatement, I think, and so 135 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: maybe it's a good bounce back spot for them against 136 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: a team that has not handled quality well. But I 137 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: don't really want to bet the Chiefs here at this number. 138 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: I will be looking at the travel itineraries shoe to 139 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: see if anyone makes the dubious decision to fly over 140 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: on Friday, and if they do, I'm going to be 141 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: betting against that team. But hopefully these teams are going 142 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: to be a little smarter than that. We've seen that 143 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: happen with the late rivals in the past usually get 144 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: their lunch eaten in the overseas game. I'm a little 145 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: on the opposite side of the total lough. I kind 146 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: of think we're going to see fireworks in this game. 147 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 2: Like when I saw this at fifty and a half, 148 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: I My inclination was to think that was a little 149 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: low of where I thought it was gonna be. I 150 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: thought we'd see something closer to fifty two. So Sam 151 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: could be right. The last four Chiefs games have played 152 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: under but I do think we're gonna see points in 153 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: this game. I kind of think it goes over. 154 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: Sam. 155 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 4: You had something to add here, Yeah, a couple things. 156 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: The Chiefs had five turnovers this past week against the 157 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: big Broncos. I don't think that holds up against the Dolphins. 158 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but I do think the Dolphins 159 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: are going out to Germany today Monday, and the Chiefs 160 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: are going out there later this week, so it could 161 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: be something for you to consider their pet. 162 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: There you go. Look at that. Pat's already clicking on 163 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: the Betting Pros app right now. I could feel it going. 164 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: Don't forget to make all your picks count too. Join 165 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: our NFL contest bettingpros dot Com slash NFL Contest. It's free, 166 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: it's fun. You don't even have to make wagers. You 167 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: just got to make picks. 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Poor Kirk Cousins, you know, just when things 177 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: were going better for the Vikings. It's tough, man, It's 178 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: tough to be a Vikings fan. Thirty seven and a 179 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: half is this number as they travel with Jaron Hall 180 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: likely to play quarterback here against the Atlanta Falcons. Now, 181 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: the Falcons secondary did not play well this past week 182 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: against the Titans, and I don't want to talk too 183 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: much about that, but look, we'll see what the health 184 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: is of Desmond Ritter. Tarol Heineke did come in and 185 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: play in that game. So these are two four and 186 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: four teams. I'm not sure where we stand with them, 187 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: but Atlanta is a four and a half point favorite 188 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: in this game. The number for the Vikings plus one 189 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: point eighty pat This one kind of scares me because 190 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: I know it's like, Okay, we're losing our quarterback, we're 191 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: losing all these things, and then we're going on the road. 192 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: But you know, the Falcons have been kind of an 193 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: enigma all year. I would not be shocked here looking 194 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: at this money line and the plus one eighty if 195 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: the Vikings just won this game. Outright, I'd like to 196 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: hear a little positive news here for some practices about Hall. 197 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: But what do you think here? What do you make 198 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: of this one? Any early value? 199 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we get our first possible battle of the 200 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: backup quarterbacks on Thursday, and we get our second one 201 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: in the early window with this one, because we don't 202 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: know what the status is for Desmond Ridder, like there 203 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: were reports that he was being checked for concussion, but 204 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: we don't know whether it was play related or injury related, 205 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: and whether we're going to see Ridder or Heineke getting 206 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: the start this week. But the Falcons do get their 207 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: second straight game against a non first round rookie quarterback 208 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: making his NFL debut. Didn't go so well for them 209 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: last week, with Will Levis torching that secondary as you mentioned, 210 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 2: Joe and beating the Falcons twenty eight twenty three. 211 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 3: So. 212 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: I can't bet either side. I'm not willing to take 213 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: the points or lay the points. But six of the 214 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: Falcons eight games have gone under the total this year. 215 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 2: Seven of the Vikings eight games have gone under the total. 216 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: We've got at least one and maybe two backup quarterbacks 217 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: playing in this game. Thirty eight seems pretty optimistic for 218 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: that total, So I've already hit the under on this one, 219 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: and I think this is another game we see go 220 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: down in the total as the weekend goes along. 221 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: So many backup quarterbacks, second certing quarterbacks, third string quarterbacks 222 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: even that have made their appearances this year. Sam thirty 223 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: seven and a half. Again Les Patt's point, it feels 224 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: like another one where maybe the under is the early 225 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: lock in here. 226 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 3: What do you think it probably is? I mean, this 227 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 3: is just a shame with what's happened at Kirk Cousins. 228 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 3: I know that he's been the butt of jokes in 229 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: the past, especially in a primetime games, but he was 230 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: having a pretty good season this year and over the 231 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: last couple of games had probably his one of the 232 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: best games of his career in primetime last week. But 233 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 3: I can't touch this game without knowing what the Vikings 234 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: are going to do. I don't think Jared Hall is 235 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: a feasible option at quarterback, and I know he's not 236 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 3: a first round pick, but he's definitely not on the 237 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 3: level of Will Levis, who got taken at the beginning 238 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 3: of the second round. So I think there's an opportunity 239 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: for the Vikings to go after a Colt McCoy, a 240 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: Carson Wentz like some one of these veteran guys who 241 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 3: I think can keep the offense at a higher floor 242 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: than what Hall would bring. So I'm staying away from 243 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: the game. I think it under is probably the best 244 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: bet right now, but this is. 245 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 4: It just it really sucks. 246 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: I think the under is the safest one too. And 247 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: I will say this, of all the games we've talked 248 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: about so far, just sort of like the early one 249 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: with Tennessee, this one to me even more so the 250 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: way Ritter has struggled. If he comes back or not, 251 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: we'll see what Heineke does of this offense if he 252 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: gets more of an opportunity. But and a half, it 253 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like by the time we get to Sunday 254 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: that number is gonna still be available. This feels like 255 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: it's going to continue to go down. Seattle is gonna 256 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: travel to Baltimore, Baltimore six and two handling their business, 257 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: Seattle eking out a victory here in dramatic fashion. They 258 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: are gonna be five and a half point underdogs heading 259 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: to Baltimore this week. Forty three is the number plus 260 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: two hundred on the Seattle side on the money line, Sam, 261 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: your thoughts on this contest here? Does Baltimore really handle Seattle, 262 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: because theoretically they should, but sometimes that's not always gone 263 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: the way. 264 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 4: I don't think so. 265 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: I made this Baltimore by four and a half when 266 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: I was first going through the games. 267 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 4: I struggle with this one. This is gonna be a 268 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 4: fantastic matchup. 269 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: I think the Seattle defense has played a little bit 270 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: better than what their actual actual personnel dictates. They haven't 271 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 3: allowed a positive EPA per play since week four. Again, granted, 272 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: the offense hasn't played that great either. They haven't had 273 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: a positive EPA per play since then, either. But I 274 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: do think that Gino Smith has really grown into some 275 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: of the deep ball passing he's had. I think that's 276 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 3: where you can attack this Ravens secondary. This is a 277 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: lower total obviously not as low as as some of 278 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: the games we've already talked about, but I think with 279 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:21,479 Speaker 3: that in consideration, I'm taking the points with the Seahawks. 280 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: Pat your thoughts on this one. Forty three is the 281 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: number here. Sam likes the Seattle side in the five 282 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: and a half. You think they can keep it close. 283 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Seahawks are for one on one against 284 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: the spread in their last six games. They are on 285 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: an upward trajectory, but some are the Ravens. They're rolling. 286 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 2: They've won three straight and they've won them all by 287 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: at least a touchdown. Plus we have a West Coast 288 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: team going out east for an early kickoff. I tend 289 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: not to like betting the West Coast teams under those circumstances, 290 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'm not really leaning strongly to 291 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: either side, although I like the Ravens as a slightly 292 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: better percentage play. Perhaps I'm more inclined to go with 293 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: the under here. The last twelve Seahawks games, eight of 294 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: them have played under, and for the Ravens, twelve of 295 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: their last eighteen games have played under plus. Nine of 296 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 2: the last ten Ravens home games have played under. Opponents 297 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: just don't score a lot at M and T Banks Stadium, 298 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: So I think I'm gonna bet the under here and 299 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: layoff the side. 300 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: Bears are coming off a Sunday night loss here to 301 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: the Chargers. They are two and six, so we don't 302 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: know if they can have justin fields for this game. 303 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: Right now, the number is seven heading into New Orleans again, 304 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: New Orleans seven point favorites, and this one Derek Carr's 305 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: been airing the ball out lately, that's for sure. Forty 306 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: one and a half is the number for this one. 307 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: If you like the Bears in the upset, it's plus 308 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: two forty five over on betting pros. So Pat, let's 309 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: talk about this. Do you want to lock in this 310 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: seven now in anticipation of fields not playing or do 311 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: you want to potentially wait this one out and see 312 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: if there's any change and then a field's return this week. 313 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: I think I want to sit this one out, Joe. 314 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: We have talked about the vexing unpredictability of the New 315 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: Orleans Saints this year. They have been my bete noir 316 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: as far as betting, my betting bet noir. Yeah, like 317 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: I just and we've seen the Bears like they haven't 318 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: been good all year, but the two wins they have 319 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: been very convincing blowouts of the Commanders and Raiders. So 320 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: the big wild card obviously the status of Justin Fields, 321 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: and I'm disinclined to make a bet either way on 322 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: whether he comes back or not. So I'm just gonna 323 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: sit this one out and let someone else try to 324 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: pick the Saints correctly because I just can't say them. 325 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: Are you as vexed as pat is on this one? 326 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 4: Yes, I am. 327 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: I The Saints offense has actually looked pretty good. Obviously, 328 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: had the sort of a stinker against the Jaguars on 329 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: Thursday Night Football a couple of weeks ago, but there 330 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: they have so many great weapons on offense, and I 331 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: don't see how this Bears defense is able to stop that, 332 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: even if Derek Carr, you know, goes back into his shell. 333 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: So I think laying seven points against the or with 334 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: the Saints, I guess it is tough. I think I'd 335 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: rather again combine them with the Titans, like I mentioned 336 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: earlier in a teaser leg. 337 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: All right, so teasing in around there, Let's go to 338 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: the next one here, Arizona and Cleveland. Cleveland really had 339 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities to win that game in Seattle, 340 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: and they just couldn't take advantage of those opportunities. They 341 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: are now four and three. They are gonna head back 342 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: home here with the Arizona Cardinals. Now I doubt we 343 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: get Kyler Murray back in this when it seems to 344 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: be like we're gonna wait another week for him. Cardinals 345 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: are one and seven. The Cardinals always keep these you 346 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: know games. They have a tendency to continue to compete, 347 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: which is always a dangerous thing for some of these lines. 348 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: The number is seven here Cleveland being the favorite at home. 349 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: Thirty eight and a half is the total plus two 350 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: to fifty for Arizona. Sam When you're taking a look 351 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: here at this one, do you think Cleveland handles this 352 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: one in the seven points very easily or do you 353 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: think this could be a struggle for them. 354 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: I think it could be a struggle. I mean, this 355 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: offense still looks out of sorts. They have a really 356 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: great game plan against the Seahawks this past week with 357 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 3: the screen game they got working, but their defense is 358 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: looking not like the historical defense we were expecting. Both 359 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 3: Zadarias Smith and Alex Wright left the game this past week, 360 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: as did corternerback Greg Newso the Arizona offense isn't getting 361 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: much better, but I just don't trust the Cleveland offense 362 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: to move the ball enough to win by more than 363 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: seven points, even against the Cardinals defense. So I think again, 364 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: with the lower total, I'm taking Arizona with the points pad. 365 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: Do you trust the Cleveland defense though, to get a 366 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: score in this game and maybe make this seven a 367 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: little bit more comfortable than we realize? 368 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: I think that could happen, And despite some of the injuries, 369 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: I think I'm still inclined to bet on the Browns 370 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: defense because of how deep that unit is and how 371 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: many impact guys they have in that unit as game 372 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 2: and effort the Cardinals have been giving us every week. 373 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 2: They have lost five straight games and all of those 374 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 2: losses have been by seven or more points, and on 375 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: the road this year zero to four, and all of 376 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: those losses had been by nine or more points. So 377 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: I think I'm going to take the Browns at home here, 378 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 2: even laying a touchdown or more. 379 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: Battle of two three and four teams here. The Houston 380 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: Texans at home two and a half point favorites against 381 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Also, three and four forty is 382 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: the number for this one. Again, not a very inspiring 383 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: total necessarily plus one twenty six for the Bucks on 384 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: the money line. Now, the Bucks did hang close, So 385 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: on Thursday Night Football last week, Bobby and I did 386 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: nail that one on the nine and a half. They 387 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 1: covered that bad boy. This one is a tighter margin here, 388 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: two and a half. Pat When you're looking at this one, 389 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: do you see any early value potentially with the Bucks 390 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: in Houston or do you think Houston gets back home 391 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: and gets back right after disappointing loss to the Panthers. 392 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 2: I think I do see a little early value with 393 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: the box show. And I know that the Texans toast 394 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: stubbing against the Panthers upset some people, but some of 395 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: us thought the Texans were maybe coming into that game 396 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: a little overvalued in the betting markets, and some of 397 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: us took the Panthers in the points. So yeah, I 398 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 2: think Sam and I might have been on different sides 399 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: of this one last week. 400 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: And Erickson was on that Carolina Panthers side. He was 401 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: talking about this on Friday, talking about the showing up there, 402 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: and I understand, you know, team's coming off by you think, Okay, 403 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: you know the Houston's played well, But Sam, when you're 404 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: looking at this one too, is the right way to go. 405 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: Just straight for the Tampa Bay money line and plus 406 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: one twenty six here. 407 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 3: If you want to bet back the Bucks, sure, I 408 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 3: mean this is this one. I didn't really have a 409 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: good leanod because again I think the Texans aren't as 410 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: good as I thought they were. 411 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 4: I didn't catch much of the much of this game. 412 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: I need to go back and rewatch it just to 413 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 3: see what happened in the Texans offense because they were 414 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: in a perfect spot against the Panthers, and so I 415 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: do think the Texans again should be able to have 416 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: some success through the air. I do think the under 417 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 3: on this game is in play just because both of 418 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 3: these teams love to run a halfback dive on first 419 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: and ten and it just sets them back right away. 420 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 3: So I'm hoping that Texans win because I like this team. 421 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 3: I love what Demiko Ryins has been doing. But from 422 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: a side perspective, I'm not touching it right now. 423 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: New England Patriots at home, coming off a game another 424 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: loss to the Miami Dolphins. There again, they competed, they 425 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: kept it interesting at least towards the end minus three. 426 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: Though they are favorites at home against the Washington Commanders, 427 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: who constantly play up and down to their competition. So 428 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: another weird, dangerous spot. They're so competitive against the Eagles 429 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: and another teams. You watch them play and you just 430 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, how do you not just wiping 431 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: the floor with the Giants? I don't know. Forty is 432 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: the number for this one plus one thirty for the 433 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: upset on the Washington bunny line? Sam, what do you 434 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: make out of this one? 435 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 3: I think I'm going with Washington and probably the money line. 436 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 3: At first glance, I didn't really see much value in this. 437 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 3: I made the game exactly what it is right now. 438 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 3: But looking a little bit deeper into it, the Patriots 439 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 3: defensive weakness is through the air. They get a thirty 440 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 3: percent pressure rate on defense, and obviously we know the 441 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 3: biggest weakness for Washington is Sam Howell taking sacks. So 442 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 3: I think with the way that offense is clicking, I'm 443 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 3: enticed to take again Washington with a little bit of 444 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: variance and hoping they come away with that victory. 445 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: Pat do you see things the same way here as Sam? 446 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: In this game against Washington and New England. 447 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: I'm inclined to trust Sam, but I'm probably just gonna, 448 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 2: you know, cheerlead for him, while I don't bet this 449 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 2: game at all, because like, I can't trust the Commanders. 450 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 2: You said it, Joe, Like, how how does this team 451 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 2: play the Eagles so tough twice and then get completely 452 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: stopped by the Chicago Bears. And meanwhile, we've got the 453 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: Patriots who went one in four in October one and 454 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: four against the spread in October, but the one win 455 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 2: was against the Bills at home, So like, if they 456 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 2: can beat the Bills at home, they can't handle business 457 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: against the Washington Commanders. I just I can't trust either 458 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 2: of these teams. 459 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm not going to about this one. Now. This one 460 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: is very interesting coming up next because you have the 461 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers at two and five. This is kind 462 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: of I don't want to be dramatic, but this is 463 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: kind of their season here. I can go to two 464 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: and six, this is done. It's over the Los Angeles Rams, 465 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: another team that you know, we just try to keep 466 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: trying to figure out. This is going to be their 467 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: second consecutive road game for them as well. The Packers 468 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: are still three and a half three point favorites in 469 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: this one. The numbers thirty nine and a half plus 470 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: one forty four of the Rams on the money line. Pat, 471 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: I feel like the wrong team is favorite in this game. 472 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: But I can't make a logical cojin argument as to 473 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: why the Rams should be favored, except for the fact 474 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: that if Matthew Stafford is healthy enough to play, that 475 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: this should be a game that the Rams go out 476 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: there and handle their business against frankly an offense in 477 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: Green Bay that has just not worked. Let's just call 478 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: it what it is. So the question is the Matthew 479 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: Stafford health. That's the thing that's holding us up. So 480 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: do we want to jump on this game now and 481 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: bet that Stafford's gonna soldier through this injury or do 482 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: you want to wait and get more information and maybe 483 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: miss some value. 484 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on the fence here, Joe, because on Sunday 485 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: night this game was Packers by one and a half. 486 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 2: And I saw your point about taking the Rams getting 487 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: points in Green Bay when their offense has been functioning 488 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: in a much higher level than the Packers offense of late. 489 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 2: But at the same time, if Brett Rippen is the 490 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: starter for the Rams as a warm weather team coming 491 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: into LAMBA on what should be a pretty chilly Sunday 492 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 2: afternoon next week. Like, I think the Packers are actually 493 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: of value at anything a field goal or less if 494 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: it's ripping starting. So man, Like, yes, I want to 495 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: bet something now to try to get a beat on 496 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: this game before we know more about Stafford's injury. But like, 497 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: I don't know which way to go with this one, 498 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: because you know, would feel wrong about the Packers if 499 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 2: it was Stafford playing. It would feel wrong to have 500 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: the Rams if it's ripping going into Green Bay. So man, 501 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: I'm probably just gonna bite the bullet and lay off 502 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: this one. 503 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: This is a tricky situation here, and I'm stuck between 504 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: Instead of two ferns, it's two Packer fans, So cheeseheads. 505 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: Come on, Sam, are you gonna put the final nail 506 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: on the coffin for the Packers here with the Rams? 507 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: Or are you gonna wait this one out? 508 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: Oh, We've already put the nail in the coffin. I 509 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: know this is a football podcast. I've got the Bucks 510 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 3: shirt shirt on today. 511 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: Oh, you've already transitioned to NBA. I'm wearing the Bengal 512 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: shirt from my Bengals money line pick that paid off 513 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: big time. Let's go. They said San Fran wouldn't lose 514 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: three games in a row. Sam and I say, hold 515 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: my brock party. I say, just wait. 516 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: We're already firing up the mock draft simulator seeing how 517 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 3: many picks it'll take straight up to the number one 518 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 3: spot for Caleb Williams. But onto analysis of this game, 519 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 3: Jordan Rodrik of The Athletic did report this morning that 520 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: the Rams are evaluating a number of options with Matthew Stafford. 521 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 3: They're going to test his test his thumb out and 522 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 3: how he can grip the ball throughout the week. I 523 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: think the chillier conditions in green Bay, combined with the 524 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: fact that the Rams have a bye following this game, 525 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: keeps Stafford out of this game. But I honestly still 526 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 3: kind of like the Rams. I mean, they've been running 527 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 3: the ball a ton the past several weeks. Their passwright 528 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 3: over expectation is deep in the negatives, I mean to 529 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: a Falcons esque level, and the green Bay deep rush 530 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: defense had its best performance against Minnesota this past week. 531 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: But I think the Rams are just going to hand 532 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: the ball off to the combination of Daryl Henderson and 533 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 3: Royce Freeman, who have played pretty okay in the stead 534 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 3: of Kyron Williams. So I think this is I mean again, 535 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: the coffin is in or the nails in the coffin 536 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: for the Packers already. I think the Rams honestly have 537 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: a chance to steal this one, even if Stafford is out. 538 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 4: I do. 539 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 1: I like the three already with the Rams. Just give 540 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 1: me the three in the Rams right now and we'll 541 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: see how it goes. And if Stafford ends up, you know, 542 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: clearing through and they think you can give it a go, 543 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: then double down with it and take the Rams on 544 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: the money line. That's how I look at this one. 545 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: Indianapolis going against Carolina. Carolina gets their first victory, Indy 546 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: coming off another l here they are now three and five. 547 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: They're gonna still be road favorites though minus two and 548 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: a half of the Colts here at minus one fifteen 549 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: forty five is the number for this one. Carolina. Can 550 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: they do it too? In a row? Plus one point 551 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: thirty says if they can, Sam Hoppin, what do you say. 552 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 4: This one's tough? 553 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: I mean the Colts's road favorites is kind of stinky 554 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: to me. I think that that said, Shane Steichen has 555 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 3: been such an upgrade at coaching for the Colts obviously, 556 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 3: you know, I think Frank Reich last year got jobbed 557 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: a little bit. But man, if they had stuff with 558 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: stuck with Jeff Saturday, I don't know what this team 559 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 3: would have looked like. But in any case, I struggled 560 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 3: to have a take on the side here. All of 561 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 3: the Colts games this year have been points fest. They 562 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 3: play super fast, they play well enough to move the ball. 563 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 3: I do think the market has caught up to that 564 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 3: a little bit with the total where it's at, so 565 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit too high for me 566 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 3: to go over, even though again the Panthers in their 567 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 3: win only scored fifteen points. So this is just a 568 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 3: complete stay away from me. 569 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 4: All right? Pat? 570 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: Are you running the other direction from Panthers and Colts too, Joe? 571 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: The Saints are the one team, the first team that 572 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: I don't want to touch. That just terrify me, and 573 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: the Colts are the other like the other team I 574 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: can't get right on. We're on the eve of Halloween here, Joe, 575 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 2: and I think my Halloween horror would be betting Saints 576 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 2: Colts games every week, so I'm glad we're not getting 577 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: that matchup again. I'm not going to bet either side 578 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: on the Colts. I don't like them as a road favorite. 579 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 2: But the Colts have become one of the most predictable 580 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: over teams in the National Football League. They've gone over 581 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: the total in four of their last five. The average 582 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: point total in Colts games this year is fifty four 583 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: point three points, and six of the Colts eight games 584 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: this season have played over fifty points. So I'll ride 585 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: that trend and take the over here, even though you 586 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: know the Panthers might need a little help getting that 587 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: point total up, but maybe the Colts can oblige and 588 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: put up thirty. 589 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: Or all Right, this one's definitely a must watch game. 590 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: You're gonna like this one. The Eagles seven to one 591 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: are going to host the Dallas Cowboys of five and two. 592 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: The Cowboys looked great, phenomenal game for them. They were 593 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: rocking and rolling, Dak Prescott throwing the ball over to 594 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: play Ceedee Lamb crushed that five and a half receptions 595 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: over we talked about on Friday. Bobby, by the way, 596 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: was four out of five out of his picks on 597 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: Friday to great job at a him. Forty six is 598 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: the number for this one plus one thirty five for 599 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Upset. I'm gonna keep this one easy, Pat 600 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: for me. Give me the Eagles in the three right now, 601 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: because I know the Cowboys look great. Everyone's talking about 602 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are back and all this stuff I said 603 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: from before the season. During the season, even when people 604 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: were concerned, I still think the Eagles are the class 605 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: of the NFC by a long shot. I don't want 606 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: to hear anybody tell me differently, so be careful because 607 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: if you tell me differently, we might have to have words. 608 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, but what do you think here about 609 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: this when the Cowboys and Eagles, Because I just want 610 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: the Eagles in the three and just walk away from 611 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: this one. I'm confident the Eagles at home are going 612 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: to handle their business. 613 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,239 Speaker 2: At first Blush. I like the Eagles in the under Joe. 614 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: But here's what scares me about this game. It's starting 615 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: to look like pass coverage is a real achilles heel 616 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: for the Eagles, and we saw that yesterday with the 617 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: Commanders and Sam Howell, well, I'm not even sure if 618 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: he's a good quarterback, yet just picked the Eagles apart, Like, 619 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: if their pass rush does no get home, these Eagle 620 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: cornerbacks cannot stay with wide receivers, and like, that's a 621 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: big problem with Ceedee Lamb coming to town off a 622 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: twelve catch, two touchdown game. So man, like, I think 623 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay away from this one. I just like 624 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: I can't back the Eagles when I was so horrified 625 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: by their pass defense yesterday. 626 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: You make a great point about that, and that is 627 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: a good logical point. My point is a little bit 628 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: more on the emotional side, Sam, which is I don't 629 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: think the Dallas Cowboys have the mental and emotional fortitude 630 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: to go into Philadelphia and win a football game. I 631 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: just don't think they're that team. They have not shown 632 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: me they're that team. Just because you beat the Rams 633 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: this week does not necessarily change my opinion of that. 634 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: What say you? 635 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 3: I disagree. I think the Cowboys are in a great 636 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 3: spot here. Pat mentioned the Eagles pass defense. Over the 637 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 3: last four weeks. They've allowed a ten point four percent 638 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 3: explosive pass rate that is thirtieth in the league. Meanwhile, 639 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 3: over that same stretch of games, the Cowboys offense is 640 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 3: first having a ten point seven percent explosive pass rate 641 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 3: the Eagles. Excuse me, the Cowboys defense is still getting 642 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 3: a ton of pressure on opposing quarterbacks. The Eagles offensive 643 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 3: line has has struggled a little bit lately. They're allowing 644 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 3: a thirty to nine percent pressu rate over the last 645 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 3: four weeks. The Dallas passing offense just looks great. I mean, 646 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 3: Dak is out there dropping some dimes that touchdown pass 647 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 3: to Jake Ferguson just over the defender's head. He's been 648 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 3: playing exceptionally well. The Cowboys are starting to pass the 649 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: ball a little bit more. I think they understand that 650 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 3: the rushing offense is just not what they might have 651 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 3: expected it to be. So I think Dallas can go 652 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: into Philly and take the upset or at least cover 653 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 3: the three points. 654 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: Now, after all of that, I think I want to 655 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: tease this and I want to take the Eagles by 656 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: even more. That's what I think. That's what I think. 657 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: Enough see everyone bet that they do this all the time. 658 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: You start to lot cooking the Cowboys. They're looking good again. 659 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: There's such a public team, and I was gonna go 660 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: run and bet the Cowboys. Now stay with the Eagles. 661 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: Let's see on Monday. If I'm right or wrong, then 662 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: the Boys can hammer me. If I'm wrong, we'll see 663 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: what happens. The New York Giants two and six will 664 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: take on the Las Vegas Raiders. Three point underdogs going 665 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: into Las Vegas are the Giants thirty eight and a 666 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: half is the number for this one. The Giants on 667 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: the money line plus one forty possibly Daniel Jones coming 668 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: back here in this one. Sam, I know some of 669 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: these games are pretty ugly. 670 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: Here. 671 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: We've got two more left after this, one of which 672 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: is much more exciting. So do you want to just 673 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: fast forward through Giants Vegas? Or does something that appeals 674 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: to you. 675 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 4: Pass? I'd be like the Giants. Out of twenty seven. 676 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 3: Success rate on Sunday, like almost three quarters of the 677 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: plays got them further away from scoring. 678 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 4: It was just so so bad. 679 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 3: I know there was the rain, Tyrod getting hurt. Daniel 680 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 3: Jones is clear to return. It sounds like he's going 681 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 3: to play in this game. But I still think the Raiders' 682 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: offense is pretty solid and they'll be able to move 683 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: the ball. So give them the Raiders, I guess give me. 684 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: The over on Saquon Barkley's carry total whatever that is, 685 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: what the rushing attempts are over. That's how you bet 686 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: this game. Pat, you see anything else, you'll like this? 687 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 688 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: I mean laying a field goal or more with the Raiders, 689 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 2: Like give me the points every time against Josh McDaniels 690 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: and the Raiders, Like, especially with Daniel Jones coming back? 691 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: Will this be the first time all year where they 692 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: have Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley health? 693 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: Hear? 694 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 3: No? 695 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: First little while? 696 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 697 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: Healthy, that's a different question. Healthy since Week one maybe 698 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: or two? 699 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. I guess early in the season. So 700 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: I'll take the Giants and the points here. Like, I know, 701 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: they haven't given us much reason for optimism yet. But 702 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: I don't like the Raiders. It's a big favorite. 703 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: Come on, I'm not a big favorite. They are they 704 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: are the standard favorite. They are the home here's three points. There, 705 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: you go too big to be fair enough? All right? Well, 706 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: how about the three points that the Cincinnati Bengals are 707 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: getting at home against the Buffalo Bills. Forty eight and 708 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: a half is the number on this one plus one 709 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: thirty for the Buffalo Bills. You know where I'm gonna go. 710 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,479 Speaker 1: I'm representing who Day, Let's go. Let's go a little 711 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals action. I picked the Bengals last week. I 712 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: canna keep rolling with them. I think the Bengals are 713 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: favorite for a reason in this game. I think the 714 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, you clearly can see they missed certain of 715 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: those missing pieces on defense. Joe Burrow looked by far 716 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: the healthiest he has been getting out of sacks running 717 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: around in the pocket. I think the rest of the 718 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: AFC better get real worried here because the Bengals are 719 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: getting back into this thing. So pat do you think 720 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: they handle the Buffalo Bills here at home? 721 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, this line's really interesting joke because the Bengals do 722 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 2: look like the Bengals again, and the Bills haven't really able. 723 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: They haven't been able to get decisive wins against bad teams. 724 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 2: They're last three games one score games against the Buccaneers, Patriots, 725 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 2: and Giants. They lost the Patriots game and came within 726 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: a whisker of losing that game to the Giants. I 727 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: think when we look at the power rankings this week, 728 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 2: like when Massy Peabody updates their ratings, it's gonna say 729 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: that the value is with the Bills. But that's taking 730 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 2: into account the entire body of work, where the Bengals 731 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: were so out of sorts early in the season and 732 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: now they are just humming again, and they're basically back 733 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: where they were the last couple of years as valid 734 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: Super Bowl contenders. So I can't blame you. I'm leaning 735 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 2: towards the Bengals here as well. 736 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: Sam, Come on this plenty room on the train, Hop 737 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: a board, let's go. We're going to Cincinnati. 738 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 3: Look, this is gonna be some good, clean fun. We're 739 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 3: gonna start our Sunday morning with a matchup between the 740 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 3: two MVP favorite. It's gonna roll into the afternoon with 741 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 3: Ravens at our Seahawks Ravens. Then we're gonna get a 742 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 3: nice Mattine viewing with the Cowboys and Eagles, and then 743 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 3: we're gonna wrap up our night with this Bill's Bengals. 744 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 4: I mean, it's gonna be phenomenal. They have football. 745 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 3: I'm on the Bengals though I took them at two 746 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 3: and a half this morning. They were one and a 747 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 3: half even earlier this morning, So getting a lot of 748 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 3: steam here for the Bengals. But you mentioned it, Joe 749 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 3: Burrow looks healthy. In weeks one through six, Joe Burrow 750 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 3: took fifteen snaps from under center. In week eight alone, 751 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 3: he took fourteen snaps from under center. His health is 752 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 3: going to open up this offense so much more. Obviously, 753 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: the Bills get some extra rest playing on Thursday Night 754 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 3: Football the previous week, but they just don't look like 755 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 3: the juggernaut that they used to be. Have had some issues. 756 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 3: I think some of the decision making that Sean McDermott 757 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 3: made in that game against Tampa Bay was very suspect 758 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 3: and it kept the Buccaneers in that game to the 759 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 3: point where if Chris Godwin turns around a little bit earlier, 760 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 3: like they are losing that game and are you know, 761 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 3: just even further behind the Dolphins. So I like the 762 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 3: Bengals in this. I think the Bengals are just looking 763 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 3: like they can make a real, real run here. 764 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: All right, one more game Monday Night Football, because you know, 765 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: the NFL loves to put these New York teams here 766 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 1: on the standalone games. We've got to do it every week. 767 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: It feels like I've got to have at least one 768 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: of them. The Jets at four and three somehow won 769 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: that football game. Don't ask me how I watched it. 770 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: I watched the highlights twice. I still can't understand how 771 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: that all happened. Four and three, they are two and 772 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: a half point underdogs, though to the Chargers forty one 773 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: and a half is the number plus one twenty five 774 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: for the Jets side. Sam, We're giving the Jets a 775 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: little too much credit here at this plus two and 776 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: a half number here. I mean, look, I don't love 777 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: the Chargers, and I never love the Chargers traveling across 778 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: the country, and I never love the Chargers on primetime. 779 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: And the more I'm saying these things out loud, the 780 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: more I understand the line. But g whiz, I mean, 781 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: should the Chargers go in there and just put up 782 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of points on the Jets at this point? 783 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 4: They should? 784 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I think if the Chargers get out to 785 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 3: an early lead, they should be able to salt this 786 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 3: one away. The Jets lost more offensive linemen to injuries 787 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 3: in Sunday's games. Center Connor McGovern and left guard West 788 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 3: Schweitzer both got hurt. The Chargers pass runs rush hasn't 789 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 3: been great this year, but the Jets are already allowing 790 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 3: a pressure rate over forty percent. I think the Chargers 791 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 3: defense run defense continues to be solid, so if they 792 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 3: decide to shy away from Zach Wilson, that the Chargers 793 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 3: rush defense will be able to hold them to feury yards. 794 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean Justin Herbert is just stratosphere is 795 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 3: better than Zach Wilson. I get the rest of the 796 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 3: team is not as much up to stuff, and the 797 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 3: Jets defense as a whole is pretty good, but I 798 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 3: think Justin Herbert can can do some damage. 799 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: Pat, well, Justin Herbert do damage? Or are we gonna 800 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: somehow see the Jets sneak out another victory here? I'm 801 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: at a loss with this one here with the Jets. 802 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 2: That Jets defense is really really good. And you know, 803 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 2: we know the Chargers tortured recent history. Heck, they're tortured 804 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 2: long term history. I mean, it's just like really hard 805 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 2: to back the Chargers when I saw that line against 806 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 2: the Bears last week at eight and a half, and 807 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 2: the Chargers give them credit, they took care of business, 808 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 2: but they usually don't take care of business so easily. 809 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 2: And meanwhile, you've got this Jets team that wants to 810 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 2: play everyone close, whether it's a really good team or 811 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 2: a bad team like the Giants. So man, I just 812 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 2: like I'm not touching this game. 813 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 4: I'm not touching. 814 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 2: It's an interesting matchup, but I do not want to 815 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 2: bet this game at all. 816 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: This one feels like a live bet game. Or you 817 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: get in there and you get a sense of what's 818 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: going on in the first quarter and then you try 819 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: to make an impulsive stand one way or another. That's 820 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: what that's what this feels like to me. Especially it's 821 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: fun because it's standalone, so it's a lot easier to 822 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: do that because you've got no other games distracting you. 823 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: So that's one that I'd be looking at. But again, 824 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: as Sam pointed out, definitely you could start in the 825 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: morning with your coffee and then and after dinner drink. 826 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 1: By the time you get to Sunday night football and 827 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: then maybe maybe Monday night you find something to do 828 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: with the kids. I don't know, instead of having to 829 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: watch the Jets. We'll see. But again, we want to 830 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: hear from you. 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