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Speaker 1: the Bucks pick up their first championship since nineteen seventy one,

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Speaker 1: you know a lot of people the NBA's got this

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Speaker 1: reputation full of egos, brash stars, dynasties, but the image

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Speaker 1: is a lot different in all of basketball than reality.

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Speaker 1: You know, certain blogs have a political ideology. They hate

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Speaker 1: the NBA. It feeds into their clicks. But the truth

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Speaker 1: is for every star driven team, they're always is an

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Speaker 1: answer on the built from within side. Bucks are now champs,

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Speaker 1: Sons were in the finals, Kawai's Raptors. You know the

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Speaker 1: teams that blocked Lebron from titles. The Warriors overwhelmingly drafted Steph,

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Speaker 1: the MAVs with Dirk Ala Juan Rockets won two titles,

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. Start looking at all these teams. There is

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Speaker 1: this sense that basketball in this country is so much

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Speaker 1: about recruiting the big stars. Kentucky, John Calipari has been there,

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Speaker 1: what twelve years? He has one championship. Do you know

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Speaker 1: the winning his team in the last five years in

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Speaker 1: college basketball is Villanova. They've won eighty four percent of

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Speaker 1: their games. They live on three star recruits. In the

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Speaker 1: past eight years, Gonzaga hasn't had a season where they've

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Speaker 1: won fewer than twenty eight regular season games. Their number

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Speaker 1: two college basketball in the NBA, Yes, Kentucky Duke Kansas,

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Speaker 1: the home of five stars. They win their titles too.

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Speaker 1: But right now Gonzaga and Villanova the two winning his

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Speaker 1: teams in college basketball in the last seven eight years.

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Speaker 1: And in the NBA the Bucks, the Raptors, the MAVs.

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Speaker 1: It all works out. When you look at what Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: has done, there is every reason to believe this is

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Speaker 1: going to become the Spurs North, a dominant, humble, grateful

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Speaker 1: big Popovic's system now a disciple and Budenholzer. You tell

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Speaker 1: me in the East, who's in the way Celtics are

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Speaker 1: starting to rebuild. Philadelphia is breaking up their two stars,

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Speaker 1: Toronto rebuild, Miami rebuild. Too much of the NBA's reputation

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Speaker 1: is built on people who don't like the league and

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Speaker 1: it helps their business to bash it with that Rick Bucher,

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Speaker 1: You know, Rick, I was always very reluctant when it

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Speaker 1: came to Jannis being the face of the league. I

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Speaker 1: didn't think he cared about it. It's a small market team.

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Speaker 1: You know. He's not a flashy player. But when I

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Speaker 1: watched tonight from his defensive performance free throw line, he

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Speaker 1: was so much better and more dominating. It did remind

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Speaker 1: me a lot of Lebron when he used to chase

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Speaker 1: people down and block shots on the fast break. Whether

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Speaker 1: or not. I felt like tonight I was watching a

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Speaker 1: physical specimen that doesn't have a rival in this league.

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Speaker 1: I felt that the last two or three games. Yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The change for me is that I kind of like

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Speaker 1: There's a certain there's a certain sincerity and genuineness about

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be great, and if you guys

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Speaker 1: guess I'll do it. As opposed to it almost has

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Speaker 1: felt like the last few years that's what guys were

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Speaker 1: I want to be the face of the league. I

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Speaker 1: want to be known as the guy. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we could get into, you know, how that mindset has evolved,

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Speaker 1: But clearly Jannie and I put a lot of this

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Speaker 1: said this before. You know, the Michael Jordan's and the

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Speaker 1: Magic's had lousy early contracts. I have no problem moving

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Speaker 1: into mogul stage and just doing the best for your business.

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with Lebron choosing the Lakers. I

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Speaker 1: have because he accomplished everything else. But you know it's

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Speaker 1: this will sound hyperbolic, but we can talk ourselves into stuff.

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Speaker 1: But when you when somebody really arrives, they usually do

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Speaker 1: something physically. You know, you know, you go back to

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Speaker 1: of the sport. I don't want to overstate it, but

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Speaker 1: what I watched in the last two games is he

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Speaker 1: makes DeAndre Ayton look tiny. He's just too much to handle.

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Speaker 1: Now he can pass rick it it to me, it

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Speaker 1: just jumped through the television set tonight. And he's doing

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Speaker 1: it in a way that there isn't a precedent for it,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, and it worked because that's all he had.

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Speaker 1: simple thing, but those that recognition of how to attack

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Speaker 1: the basket. I need to see all my shooters. I

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Speaker 1: But the biggest thing for me is like I think

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Speaker 1: ones do that, and do it while winning a championship. Listen,

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Speaker 1: you know one of the realities of dynasties. When Pete

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Speaker 1: For years, Tennessee couldn't find the right coach. Urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: Lebron and Kawhi leaving the East Rick and I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's over the top, the contracts worked. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Middleton's a big ego guy. He by the way

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Speaker 1: he hit key shots tonight. This is set up, you know,

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee from bodenholes right now. Boudenholzer just gave himself another

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Speaker 1: year or two in the system, did it is? You know,

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Speaker 1: we always brag about the West having the great stars.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to form a dynasty in the West. Rick,

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Speaker 1: there's too many damn roadblocks. Here's the other thing that

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Speaker 1: know what, Steph knows that, and Clay knows that, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Lebron Lebron thirty six doesn't have it.

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Speaker 1: So now you have a Milwaukee team that knows something

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Speaker 1: San Antonio won their first championship. I'm not mistaken. It

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Speaker 1: You and I have talked about this. I do not

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Speaker 1: that's not a shot at you. That's simply what reality is. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I can appreciate what you guys accomplished, what your team

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Speaker 1: how the NBA works, no question. Rick Bucher, Great stuff.

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Speaker 1: Follow us at The Volume Sports on Twitter and Instagram,

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Speaker 1: rate reviews, subscribe, good stuff. Rick Awesome, thanks for stopping by.

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