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Speaker 1: This is the Group of five Deep Dive. Yes that's right,

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Speaker 1: PREVIEUS season officially starting right now. Excited to welcome in

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Speaker 1: my BBOC co host Mike Ianello and Brett McMurphy. We

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Speaker 1: are going to get into everything that's happening in G

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Speaker 1: five land as well as layout some breadcrumbs for you

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Speaker 1: guys to follow for the conference preview season here at

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Speaker 1: Action Network. On July twenty ninth, we're going to be

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Speaker 1: previewing the Sun Belt. The next day, the thirtieth, the

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Speaker 1: Mountain West, thirty first Conference USA, and the Independence. Then

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Speaker 1: on August fifth, we get into the Big Boy conferences,

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Speaker 1: the Big twelve, the sixth, the ACC back to G

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Speaker 1: five Land on August seventh, covering the MAC on July twelfth,

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten, the SEC the following day, and finishing

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Speaker 1: it out on August fourteenth the AAC. So we have

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Speaker 1: a lot to get through in the next few weeks,

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Speaker 1: getting you prepped for the season, so you know everywhere

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Speaker 1: you're going to go with your futures bets, with your

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Speaker 1: week zero week one plays as well. So much roster turnover,

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Speaker 1: so much to get into. But for me personally, as

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Speaker 1: someone who loves the G five, the Group of five

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Speaker 1: has been something that's been near and dear to my

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Speaker 1: been forty years since the team outside of the Power

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Speaker 1: Conference Consortium has won the NASH World Championship. BYU did

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Speaker 1: it in nineteen eighty four. They finished as the only

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Speaker 1: team in the country that was undefeated, basically forced the

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Speaker 1: hand of the pollsters. But after that they've just been

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Speaker 1: behind the eight ball. The BCS comes around in ninety eight,

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Speaker 1: Tommy Bowden and Rich Rodriguez with that offense in two lane,

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Speaker 1: a major bowl. The next year, ninety nine, Marshall does

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Speaker 1: the same thing, runs the table nothing you can go

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Speaker 1: down the list O four Utah with Urban Meyer. They

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Speaker 1: beat the stuffing out of every Power conference team they played,

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Speaker 1: including a huge win in the Festival No chance for

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Speaker 1: a national title twenty ten TCU, same deal. They finished

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Speaker 1: UCF perfect seasons, hanging their banners to Cincinnati finally punching through.

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Speaker 1: It took two straight years of dominance to get the

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Speaker 1: four seed in the College Football Playoff. All of that

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Speaker 1: has been put aside because for the next two years

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Speaker 1: But this year they go from the kids table to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I am so pumped we finally get a seat

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Speaker 4: They're not gonna be the best team, but I think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, much like the Power Conferences, finally the G five

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Speaker 1: Just drop this in here? You can be the first

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Speaker 1: media days.

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Speaker 2: Correct, let's go Big twelve media days and last Vegas

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Speaker 1: So what have you been up to on the floor

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Speaker 2: Five Well, I remain undefeated in my entire long life

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Speaker 2: twelve media Days, a lot of fascinating conversations, hopefully some

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Speaker 2: Like you did with the Cincinnati Reds, Deon Sanders will

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to get you involved in some

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Speaker 1: So I'm very excited at least for the next two years.

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Speaker 1: We have seen the table. But how likely is a

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Speaker 2: You know, to be brutally honest, nobody knows right now.

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Speaker 2: And look, this doesn't mean that a Group of five

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Speaker 2: They absolutely can on any given Saturday if you will. However,

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Speaker 2: probably let everybody still play with them. If they don't,

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Speaker 2: they'll take their ball and they'll go create their own playoff,

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Speaker 2: I hate this, I totally hate this. I know you

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Speaker 2: but that's college athletics has. It's become a business. I

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Speaker 2: Basketball is a consideration, but football is driving the bus,

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Speaker 2: Like if the if they decide to split. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: As far as if there's a G five playoff, I've

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Speaker 2: you're not on an equal level with power forward. Look,

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Speaker 2: we know they're not on an equal level. That's just

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Speaker 2: winner of the G five playoff advances to the college

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Speaker 2: so that way you can generate more revenue you can.

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Speaker 2: You know, there are obviously people would watch that. It'd

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Speaker 2: for the NCAA basketball tournament. Will that happened? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: All I know is everything is on the table. They

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Speaker 1: Now when you say will this happen? Obviously there's major

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Speaker 2: So in two words, absolutely not. I mean, dude, the

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Speaker 1: All right, if that's the case, and at best, these

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I found it looks like seven teams that

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Speaker 2: Meeps one point seven million average for those five games.

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Speaker 2: a double double curse on on Warrigal this year.

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Speaker 4: Matt Mitchell, you better put a Diego Diego drop right there, baby,

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Speaker 2: He's a he's a. You guys are Our whole thing

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Speaker 2: is what's going on at the Power twelve? Excuse me?

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Speaker 2: What's going on the Power four? In the Group five? You, Mike,

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Speaker 2: that's a perfect analogy. Diego Diego? Where is he now?

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Speaker 2: he moved on. Unfortunately, that the Group of five, I'll

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Speaker 4: Hey, we still claim diego. We've done that on this pot.

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Speaker 1: All right, last question here about how we're consolidation or

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Speaker 1: Is that a prelude to them just putting their hands

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Speaker 2: Two PAC does not want to add the entire Mountain West.

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Speaker 2: They simply don't. Now would they take the top six

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Speaker 2: I honestly don't know what will happen. I know that

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Speaker 2: And when you get into tie breakers, if you're upset

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Speaker 4: Roight, I mentioned how you know, I mentioned how we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, So that was the first guy I was

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Speaker 1: Don't worry, Yes, Sun Belt, Billy is going to be

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Speaker 4: Alabama's defensive coordinator. You had Marcus Linquist leave Buffalo to

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Speaker 4: be like safeties coach. As this gap continues to widen,

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Speaker 4: I have a bad feeling you're going to say, yes,

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Speaker 4: do you think that's going.

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Speaker 3: To be a trend, because that's what I do.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to see head coaches leave to be

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Speaker 4: like equipment managers for Alabama.

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Speaker 2: So they won't be equipment managers, they'll be assistant equipment managers.

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Speaker 2: It'll be assistant to the quit equipment.

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Speaker 1: Manager, equipment analyst for sure, do I shrewd?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, it's going to happen, and that sucks. And

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Speaker 2: the MAC you know is you know is there with

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Speaker 2: the Conference USA as far as the salaries, they're they're

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Speaker 2: at the lowest and at the at the FBS level,

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Speaker 2: and so yeah, you're going to see. You know, if

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Speaker 2: you're a head football coach in the mac Ran Conference USA,

446
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Speaker 2: do you want to beat your head against the wall

447
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Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty five days a year and try

448
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Speaker 2: to get blood out of and turn up and raise

449
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Speaker 2: money and you got to get it in and you

450
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Speaker 2: got to keep kids out of portal that actually do

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Speaker 2: well and all the other minution involved with being a

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Speaker 2: head coach. Or Hey, you know what, you can go

453
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Speaker 2: work at Alabama and you can make more money and

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Speaker 2: you don't have to work as much and people actually

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Speaker 2: want to come to your school and it's a totally

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Speaker 2: different quality of life. So yeah, Unfortunately, I think this

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Speaker 2: is this is more of the norm that's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: This is not a fluke. It's going to continue to happen.

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Speaker 2: And again, I hate that this happens. I totally hate it.

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Speaker 2: I don't want the Big Ten and SEC to have

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Speaker 2: an NFL like league. It'll be great for TV, but

462
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Speaker 2: it will suck because it will suck everything out of

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Speaker 2: college football that we all love, all the weirdness the crazy,

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Speaker 2: stupid stuff that you don't see in the NFL, that

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Speaker 2: you only see in college football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably collegeootball. It's like that.

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Speaker 4: The NFL doesn't have the NFC North's job isn't to

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Speaker 4: put the NFC South out of business.

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Speaker 3: And that's what is.

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Speaker 2: It's nine in and get in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Just one note, if you do say you go to

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Speaker 1: Alabama so you don't have to work as much. If

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Speaker 1: you say that three times in a row, Miss Terry

475
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Speaker 1: just drops off Nick Saban in front of your house

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Speaker 1: at four a m. With a bullhorn, it just gets

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Speaker 1: you working. Because man, he worked those analysts absolutely to death.

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Speaker 1: I got to see hold on here.

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Speaker 2: He's gone so bores already. He wants he wants guys

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Speaker 2: home on the weekend. He doesn't, you know, so he's

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Speaker 2: not gonna he says, wait until he loses two games practice.

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Speaker 2: They'll fire him by then.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, quick question for you here to get you out

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Speaker 1: last one. FCS schools moving up to the G five

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Speaker 1: level to fill in some of those spots. We saw

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Speaker 1: SMU get their shots to move up. We've seen lots

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Speaker 1: of schools in the past. UCF Houston the list goes

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Speaker 1: on and off. Have you heard any rumblings for North

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Speaker 1: Dakota State of South dakast state coming off a national

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Speaker 1: title of Villanova a Montana to be able to fit

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Speaker 1: into the right geographic footprint, to have the right stadium size,

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Speaker 1: sports culture, medium market, all those things, anything like that

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Speaker 1: on your radar right now in this off season realignment,

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Speaker 1: you know, shuffle, not really.

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Speaker 2: Because what what has made this difficult? And I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you guys remember this the NCAA last year

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Speaker 2: from the last yeah, I believe it was in the

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Speaker 2: last year they changed the entry fee to move up

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Speaker 2: from the FCS to the FBS.

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Speaker 3: Did they like from like five thousand and five million? Right?

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Speaker 3: Was it like crazy?

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Speaker 2: From five yeah? Q the Austin Powers you know, one

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Speaker 2: million whatever?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So now it's different. It's not like, oh wow, okay,

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Speaker 2: we're going to move up. We're going to see what

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Speaker 2: we do. Now it's like, okay, you want to you

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Speaker 2: want to move up, You've got to be committed, and

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Speaker 2: now you got to pay millions of dollars to do it. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, I know with you know,

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Speaker 2: there's a conference realignment, you know what's going to happen

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Speaker 2: with the a C city with Florida State and Clemson.

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Speaker 2: Do they go somewhere? Does the A C C implode?

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Speaker 2: You know, there's always going to be teams at the bottom.

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Speaker 2: When conferences at the top make moves, the shuffle up effect,

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Speaker 2: you've got to backload. So yeah, I think that will happen.

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Speaker 2: But look, the school's got to decide if they want

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Speaker 2: to make that commitment. And you know, for a lot

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Speaker 2: of schools it doesn't Financially, it doesn't make sense. The

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Speaker 2: Conference USA is the max, even the Mountain West, they

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Speaker 2: don't get the huge media rights deals that you know

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Speaker 2: the power leagues get. And so if you're moving, you

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Speaker 2: may move up to the FBS, but net you're gonna

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Speaker 2: you're gonna lose more money than if you just stay

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Speaker 2: in the FCS.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a lot to be said about

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Speaker 1: the hard ceiling in terms of what they can do

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Speaker 1: to up their profile. Yes, adding a school at North

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Speaker 1: Dakota State, if you look at the Sagarin ratings for

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Speaker 1: the last ten years, you're adding a team that's sometimes

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Speaker 1: top thirty five across all Division one. They're a great

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Speaker 1: team that compete for national titles, but it's in the

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Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, and it's.

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Speaker 2: Like, how many, yeah, how many people in North Dakota

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Speaker 2: have TV sets.

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Speaker 1: Exactly and a lot of their alumni are not, you know,

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Speaker 1: moving on to major you know media markets where they

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Speaker 1: are all of a sudden watching in Chicago. I agree

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Speaker 1: all of that. I will say this, if I could

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Speaker 1: make one suggestion to the Mound West, they got to

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Speaker 1: get in on the game that conference USA and the

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Speaker 1: MAC have a huge headstart on, which is find the

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Speaker 1: time slots that the ESPN and Foxes of the world

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Speaker 1: have empty and say we will be your island game there.

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Speaker 1: Because the PAC twelve after dark is now officially dead

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Speaker 1: more or less, just be a conference that at ten PM,

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Speaker 1: I know, on Friday and Saturday, break class in case

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Speaker 1: of gambling emergency. I'm down three units. I got three

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Speaker 1: Mound West games all teed up ready to go. I

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Speaker 1: think that was one of the saving graces to add

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Speaker 1: a little charm to the PAC twelve as it was

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Speaker 1: burning like. That was something that at least all of

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Speaker 1: us as gamblers and college football fans still loved. And

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Speaker 1: that's now open because certainly, you know, Fox and ESPN

555
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Speaker 1: are not going to put their top teams, their top

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Speaker 1: properties in the middle of the night. So the opportunities

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Speaker 1: we'll see if they take that bait and go ahead

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Speaker 1: and move their things around as Commerce USA playing Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursdays,

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Speaker 1: same with the MAC. I think that's the way to

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Speaker 1: go about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, Mike, it's funny you said that. I know this

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Speaker 2: is a G five podcast, so please, I want to

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Speaker 2: apologize for mentioning a power league. Brett your Mark, the

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Speaker 2: Big twelve commissioner, basically told me they're looking at different

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Speaker 2: TV windows with their partners. You know, there's only there's

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Speaker 2: already some there's only so many games you can put

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Speaker 2: on Saturday. I mean, I guess you can put them all,

568
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Speaker 2: but there's only so many network windows you can put

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Speaker 2: on Saturday. So the Big twelve is looking at non

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Speaker 2: Saturday windows to kind of do what you're suggesting, to

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Speaker 2: find kind of these niche windows, these niche games that

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Speaker 2: aren't on Saturday, where you can build audiences and different

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Speaker 2: things like that. So, yeah, you're right, G five needs

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Speaker 2: to think of this, but you know the P four

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Speaker 2: is already thinking of it too.

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Speaker 1: So just for a reminder for audience, we're going to

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Speaker 1: be hitting all the conferences, the P four, the Group

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Speaker 1: of Five, the Independence, everything in the coming weeks is

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Speaker 1: going to start at the end of July, work its

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Speaker 1: way through mid August, getting you ready for week zero. Brett,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for hopping on. Enjoy the rest

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Speaker 1: of Big twelve media days, and try to take it

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Speaker 1: easy on Colin. You know he can't just give him

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Speaker 1: a couple of holes on the front. You got to

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Speaker 1: give him a shot down the stretch. We can't have

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Speaker 1: him tail between his legs coming into previous season. We

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Speaker 1: need the strongest, most virile Colin Wilson that we can

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Speaker 1: get here at action.

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Speaker 3: Bright real quick.

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Speaker 4: Who's who's your G five pick to represent the playoffs?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I could go. It's not Liberty, It's not Boise.

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00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: I'm going Texas State or East Carolina?

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Speaker 1: Oh love spicy? I love it?

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Speaker 2: How's that? How's that? So?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So I will not take it easy on Colin, but

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Speaker 2: I am going to require him as part of our

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Speaker 2: bet playing Goth that every time he mentions he was

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Speaker 2: at one of the media days, he has to pay

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Speaker 2: me a hundred bucks. So hopefully doesn't mention it as much.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Brett.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Brettan.

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Speaker 1: on the precipice of preview season here in G five Land.

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Speaker 1: That means on Monday, July twenty ninth, the first conference

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Speaker 1: Speaking of formats that you're familiar with, the last two years,

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Speaker 1: Ianello and I have drafted g five teams to get

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Speaker 1: previously the New Year six auto bid. Now with the

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Speaker 1: seat of the Table and the College Football Playoff, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and draft five teams each. The winner

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Speaker 1: is gonna get a bowl prize pack, a hat, a

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Speaker 1: T shirt of that team. And as always, this seems

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Speaker 1: been just the way that this thing has been won.

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Speaker 1: If we do not pick the champion in our ten picks,

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Speaker 1: it goes to Matt Mitchell two years in a row.

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Speaker 1: He got Tulane two years ago, he got Liberty last

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Speaker 1: year out of Conference USA. So hopefully with ten picks

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Speaker 1: we nail at this time around. I believe Ianell got

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Speaker 1: to start last year, so I'm gonna get off the

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Speaker 1: board here quick with my number one pick, Boise State.

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Speaker 1: I wax poetic for about three thousand words on the

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Speaker 1: Action Network app. You can go check out that preview.

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Speaker 1: Why I'm betting them at six hundred to one to

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Speaker 1: win the national title. Lots of hedge opportunities if they

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Speaker 1: get that auto bid out of the G five, And

648
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Speaker 1: there's just so much to like about this team. Offensively,

649
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: it starts with Ashton gen Z. He's one of the

650
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: top rated players in the entire country by Pro Football

651
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: Focus in terms of returning players for this year. He's

652
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: just a bowling ball of knives rolling downhill. He is

653
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: so difficult to tackle when you get to that second

654
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: and third level. And finally he has a star quarterback

655
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: to be able to compliment him. Malachi Nelson comes up

656
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: from USC. He was a five star recruit in that

657
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: Archie Manning recruiting class. So much of what he does,

658
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: he's such a smooth passer. I think his comp when

659
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: you watch him play is kind of Jordan Love from

660
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. If he gives them B plus

661
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: a minus quarterback play, which I think he's certainly capable

662
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: of in Dirk Cutter's system. I think this Boise offense

663
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: is going to explode. They went all last year scoring

664
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: over thirty points. I believe nine times. They're going to

665
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: be even better this year with a great offensive line

666
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: in front of jen Z and Nelson. Defensively, that's where

667
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: things get interesting. Danilson in his first year as the

668
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: head coach. I really like their code defensive coordinators. They're

669
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: all about havoc. They're about creating negative plays and turnovers,

670
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: and then finally the schedule. They get the big swing

671
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: at Oregon. But what I think is interesting there's enough

672
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: high profile games drawing both Oregon State and Washington State

673
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: on the blue in Boise that even if they lose

674
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: that game, which they probably will against the Ducks, if

675
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: they win out the rest of the way, I think

676
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: you're going to see them elevated over an undefeated Liberty

677
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: team that plays just a upcake schedule top to bottom.

678
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: This is a year where I think the committee's really

679
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: going to be tested. They're gonna have to look at resumes.

680
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: I think Boise has everything from a roster and scheduled

681
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: perspective to make it happen. Some start with the Broncos.

682
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would have been my one one as well.

683
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: You mentioned Liberty.

684
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 4: They're probably the smart pick here, but I'm gonna go

685
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 4: with Memphis. I think Memphis will have the best offense

686
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 4: is the Group of five, maybe even the country. You know,

687
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 4: they were sixth in the nation and scoring last season,

688
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 4: and they're probably gonna be even better this year. They

689
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: bring back Seth Hennigan at quarterback. He is just efficient.

690
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: He protects the football, but he guns the football. So

691
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 4: their two best.

692
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: Receivers are back.

693
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 4: And their only real loss was Blake Watson at running back,

694
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 4: but all they did was replace him with South Carolina

695
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,959
Speaker 4: as a leading rusher normally. You know, we talked about

696
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 4: these G five drop are these power five dropdowns? Yeah,

697
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 4: Malachi Nelson's a five star creup, but he's unproven, Like

698
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 4: this was South Carolina's starting running back and now he's

699
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 4: memphis Is starting running back. So I think this offense

700
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 4: is gonna absolutely hum and their defense just needs to

701
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 4: be average. And you know, Memphis is the favorite to

702
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 4: win the American And I think what helps them this

703
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 4: year is and I'm sure we'll talk about it in

704
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 4: our AAC preview coming up, with stuck He, I think

705
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 4: we're gonna have kind of a down American a little bit,

706
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 4: especially at the bottom. But the aa HE is still

707
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: typically viewed as the strongest GIE five conference. I think

708
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 4: the winner of the American was going to have a

709
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 4: big leg up. Even if they're not the undefeated, Liberty

710
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 4: Memphis is the favorite twin the American. They do play

711
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 4: Florida State week three, again, probably a loss, but they

712
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 4: can win every other game on their schedule. So give

713
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 4: me Memphis as my pick.

714
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, let's step into the trust tree for

715
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: a second. You're up against Florida State, but it's DJU.

716
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: How confident are you in a potential upset? Let's just

717
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: go percentage wise. Obviously it's not a coin fliff game.

718
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: It's not fifty to fifty. But where are you in

719
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: terms of Norvel facing off against this former team.

720
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna say it's also the revenge against

721
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 4: I mean, you can Mike Novell revenge. I think it's

722
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 4: more of the revenge against Norvel for leaving them. Yeah,

723
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard to put a number on it,

724
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,479
Speaker 4: but I let's put it a DJU is not like.

725
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 3: Unupsetable.

726
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: I mean, just in the last three years, he's gone

727
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: from Doctor Pepper pitchman to Circle K pitchman. I think

728
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: that speaks to his overall quality of play. He's fine,

729
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: but he's definitely not striking fear to you the way

730
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: that Jordan Travis did last year for the Seminoles. So

731
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: I think that absolutely opens the door for a potential

732
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: shootout win for Memphis. Sorry, back to back picks for you.

733
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: Who's next?

734
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm actually gonna stick to the American and I'm

735
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 4: gonna take Tulane. I think they're the biggest competition in Memphis.

736
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 4: And even though you know they lose Willy Fritz to Houston,

737
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 4: I don't know that they could have replaced him with

738
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 4: a better higher than John Sumrall coming from Troy off

739
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 4: back to back some belt titles, previously was at Tulane,

740
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 4: so you know knows the area knows the team you

741
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 4: mentioned Malac I Nelson. They bring in Oregon transfer Ty

742
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 4: Thompson to take over from Michael Pratt. He's not going

743
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 4: to replace prass leadership and what Pratt did for that team,

744
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 4: but he's also a former five star recruit out of

745
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 4: high school, so he has a lot of talent coming

746
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 4: from Oregon. You know, he didn't really play much at Oregon,

747
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 4: but that's still a good system to learn, and I

748
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 4: think he was there for what two three years. They

749
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 4: bring back McKay Hughes at running back after a thousand

750
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: yards season, potentially the best back in this conference. Mario

751
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 4: Williams transferred in from USC at wide receiver, so they

752
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 4: have a pretty talented receiver room. They have a couple

753
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 4: other Power five transfers as well, and then.

754
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: They lose some key pieces on defense.

755
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 4: But we saw what Summerll did with his defenses at Troy,

756
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 4: so he's always had great defense. I'm not really too

757
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 4: borried about the defense now. The one caveat here is

758
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: their non con is hard. They play Kansas State and Oklahoma,

759
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 4: so they likely have at least two losses. But their

760
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: schedule sets up nicely where they should basically run through

761
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 4: conference play and then they play Memphis at the end

762
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 4: of the year, so you potentially have two shots at

763
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 4: Memphis to win the conference. And if you can beat

764
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 4: me Memphis back to back games, you're only two losses

765
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 4: that can't stay Oklahoma. Then you've rattle off nine straight wins.

766
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 4: I think Tulane should be looking good and they can

767
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 4: win the AAC after the schedule.

768
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: I think you drafted them at tad bit early, but

769
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: they were certainly on my short list at particularly if

770
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: Ty Thompson pops. I love the head coach, and I

771
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: think they have an opportunity to upset one of those

772
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: two you know, at least former Big twelve teams Coahoma.

773
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 4: Now you remember, yes, I remember a couple of years

774
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 4: ago they played Oklahoma about as well as anyone did,

775
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 4: and that was when they had the hurricane they had

776
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 4: to evacy. They were practicing in Oklahoma and they almost

777
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 4: beat them, and I think Spencer Rallery even said like

778
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 4: it was the toughest game they played all year, and

779
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 4: so they came up just short. And yeah, we'll see

780
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 4: what Kansas State's going to be. Would they have been

781
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 4: your second AAC team?

782
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: Yes, I think it's fair because I agree with you.

783
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of a down year for the AAC.

784
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: I think certainly the Mountain West before Tedford end up

785
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: ended up pulling out because of health concerns. I think

786
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: you can make the argument that they were the best

787
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: and the Sun Belt has just overperformed. In my opinion,

788
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: at least at the top teams, we need to see

789
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: that depth. You need to see some teams like Georgia

790
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: State stabilize a little bit to have that top to

791
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: bottom overall quality. But we won't argue about a conference

792
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: pecking order right now because I have to runs to

793
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 1: the podium and say Liberty. I'm picking Liberty. I can't

794
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: believe they fell on me at four. Let's start with this.

795
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: If you look at Colin Wilson's power rankings or Kelly

796
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: Ford's you know, k Ford rankings, They're going to be

797
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: a favorite by more than a touchdown in eleven of

798
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: twelve games this year. That's absurd. And their only difficult

799
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: game is going to be a coin flip. They're probably

800
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: going to be a short dog in boone against Appalachian State.

801
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: That's it. And this is a team that ran right

802
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: through Conference USA last year. They get Kaiden Salter back

803
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: as their quarterback. He had five starts last year, whereas

804
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: QBR was ninety two or higher. So he runs this

805
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: Jamie Chadwell offense to a t. He's got Coolie back

806
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: in the backfield with him, three starters on the offensive line. Now,

807
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: they lost a lot in terms of their receiving corp.

808
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: Their number one receiver off to the SEC. But keep

809
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: an eye on Division two transfer Dante Lee. He comes

810
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: in from Shaw in Raleigh, North Carolina and HBCU. He

811
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 1: had offers from Power four teams all over the place

812
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: NC State, most notably, he could be a star for them,

813
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: and if they are able to get something from their

814
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: receiving core, I think this offense will be just as

815
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: good as they were last year. Defensively, they have to

816
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: replace a lot, but they papered over things by forcing

817
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: turnovers last year, so I think as it relates to

818
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: their regular season schedule, I don't think anyone's going to

819
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: be able to take advantage of them. Now. Will it

820
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: be enough to go thirteen to zero and to be

821
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: over a one loss conference champion out of the AAC

822
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: of the Mountain West. That's to be seen. But at

823
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: four I gotta take the flames. What do you think?

824
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: I have a cool question for you.

825
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 4: Again, Obviously I didn't want to take Liberty for morality's sake, but.

826
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: I completely agree with you.

827
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 4: They're the best, the best G five team that mostly

828
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 4: because of their schedule, they're gonna cake walk through everybody,

829
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 4: here's my question for you. They currently are plus four

830
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 4: hundred to make the playoffs. Obviously they're the lowest G

831
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 4: five team, but look, there's nineteen teams with lower odds

832
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 4: to make the playoffs, all Power five teams. Do you

833
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 4: see value in that number given the fact that you

834
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 4: know they have the same odds as USC to make

835
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 4: the playoff. USC has four to five teams ahead of

836
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 4: them in its own conference that are more likely to

837
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 4: make the playoffs, where you're basically plus four hundred that

838
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 4: they're not going to lose two games because or get

839
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 4: jumped by one loss American team, And I think you

840
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 4: know we're gonna obviously gonna pick ten teams here.

841
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 3: I think we can all agree.

842
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 4: I at least think I think there's a big gap

843
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 4: after Boise, Liberty, Memphis. If I could bet that, if

844
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: I could bet the three of them or the field,

845
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 4: I'm taking the three of them. I think I think

846
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 4: the representative will be one of those three. So you

847
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 4: have Liberty. You know, Liberty is not competing against USC

848
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 4: or Kansas State. They're competing against Boise in Memphis, and

849
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 4: you're getting them at plus four hundred given their schedule,

850
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 4: do you see value in that plus four hundred number

851
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: to make the playoff given they basically only have to

852
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 4: compete against like two to three other teams.

853
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: Maybe this is betting scar tissue, but I've always hated

854
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: it in years past, where you can go undefeated and

855
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: you still get hopped over, screwed over by the BCS

856
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: computers or the committee or whatever it is that's lining

857
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: up for this Liberty team to go undefeated and to

858
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: get hopped by a one loss team. So at four

859
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: to one, that's not enough to entice me to hold

860
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: up my money for the whole year just to get

861
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: hosed by the committee. Where if you really believe in them,

862
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: you believe that they're going to win at app State

863
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: and go undefeated, why not take them at plus one

864
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: twenty five or one thirty in that one game, load

865
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: up on that spot if you believe they're going to

866
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: run the table, because there's no avenue for them to

867
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: get the G five auto bid if they lose a

868
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: single game in the regular season in my opinion, so

869
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: that's how I would end up playing the Flames.

870
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: That makes sense.

871
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 4: Well, instead of doing that, I'm just gonna take my

872
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 4: next pick. I'm gonna take app State because I actually

873
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: a gap State beats Liberty. App State was the people forget.

874
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 4: App State was the dominant program in the Sun Belt

875
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 4: up until a few years, and then you look around

876
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 4: the rest of the Sun Belt, James Madison, Troy, South Alabama,

877
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: the three big dogs the last two to three years,

878
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 4: all lose their head coach, So that just leaves that

879
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 4: wide open. App State returns quarterback Joey Aguilar who and

880
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 4: nearly their entire defense. They're offense gonna be great with

881
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 4: Agalar back, their defense should.

882
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: Be good again. They make a.

883
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 4: Trip to Clemson Week two, but every other game on

884
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 4: their schedule is winnable.

885
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: And as we mentioned it, let's.

886
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 4: Say you got a one lost app State team at

887
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,479
Speaker 4: the end of the year, or even a two loss

888
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 4: app State versus a one loss Liberty, and app State

889
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 4: beat Liberty. So the fact that they play Liberty, which

890
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 4: is their you know, biggest competition likely for this spot.

891
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 4: I had to head when I think, goes a long way.

892
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 4: So if you have you know the American, like I said,

893
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 4: the American potentially Tulane and Memphis played or twice, let's

894
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 4: say they split the series, you can have the same

895
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 4: thing in the Mountain West with Boise and App they

896
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 4: cannibalize each other. You got a one lost Thumbelt champion

897
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: with a win over at Liberty. App States sitting pretty

898
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 4: So I'll take the Nears right here.

899
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: I'll stay right in the Sun Belt. Give me Texas State.

900
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 4: GJ.

901
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: Kenney was supposed to give us, you know, an offensive

902
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: turnaround fireworks in year one.

903
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: He did it.

904
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: They come right out of the gate, they beat Baylor.

905
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: He turns TJ. Finley into an efficient passer. The offense

906
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: absolutely cooked. It was built around you know, Mahdi out

907
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: of the backfield, one of the best all purpose weapons

908
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: in the entire country. He goes ahead, he gets Jordan

909
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: McLeod out of the portal, steals them from in conference

910
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: out of James Madison, and they made some really nice

911
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: moves in the portal in the defensive line as well,

912
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: And that's all I'm really asking for. Defensively, they were

913
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: best the cd F. If they can move into the

914
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: B range and to get a little bit more pressure

915
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: on the quarterback, I think is a big step in

916
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: the right direction. And then this schedule, I really like it.

917
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: Getting UTSA and Arizona State in weeks two and three,

918
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: both at home, so you get power of you know,

919
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: I should say a former Pac twelve team now in

920
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: the Big twelve, but a power four team on your

921
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: home field. Big opportunity to score some some points in

922
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: terms of least perception, and their SBC slate is ideal.

923
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: No app State, no James Madison, no Marshall. I'm gonna

924
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: go with the Bobs here. I think they're a good

925
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: value to at least be a top two or three

926
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: offense in the Sun Belt, So I think that gives

927
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: him a puncher's chance to win it.

928
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 4: We send the Americans down, but I'm gonna go ahead and

929
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 4: take another one. I'm gonna take South Florida. We saw

930
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 4: them take a massive jump in the first season under

931
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 4: Alex Goulish, and somehow they were able to hang on

932
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 4: to Byron Brown at quarterback after he threw for over

933
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 4: three thousand yards and rushed for a eight hundred. They

934
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 4: bring back running back na Kwon Wright. They bring back

935
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 4: their top two receivers, Shawn Atkins and Names Simmons. Defense

936
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 4: wasn't great, but they returned eight starters. They added some

937
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 4: key transfers, especially in the secondary through the Portal.

938
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: Let's not forget this.

939
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: Is a team that almost beat Albam last year.

940
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 3: A lot once they made about how bad Alband played.

941
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 4: I think South Porta maybe just played good. So they

942
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 4: also play the Tide again this year, so maybe they

943
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 4: get them early, which is when you want to play

944
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 4: them and you want to talk about potential Power five wins.

945
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 4: They play Miami, who just loves getting upset. If you're

946
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 4: a G five team who wants a Power five upset,

947
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 4: is there a team you'd rather play than Miami, A

948
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 4: team that people naturally think is good but seems to

949
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 4: never actually be good. So go ahead and pick off

950
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 4: the Keynes.

951
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

952
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 4: If they can pull an upset off against tulaner Memphis,

953
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 4: they should beat the rest of their conference schedule. So

954
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 4: that's the best thing with the AACS. I feel like

955
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 4: there's four or five top dogs and the rest of

956
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 4: the conference is going to be horrific, So it's just

957
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 4: trying to guess whoever is the best of the top

958
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 4: four or five should be in a good position.

959
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

960
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: I think at this point in the draft you just

961
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: want to take a team that's either elite offensively or defensively,

962
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: at least by G five standards and you got one

963
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: in USF. They were definitely on my radar. I'm going

964
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: to go with UNLV. The Go Go is back in

965
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: Sin City this year. They able to retain their entire staff,

966
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: Barry Odom coming off a nine to five season, the

967
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: first season with more than seven wins since nineteen eighty four.

968
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: You got Matthew Sluca from Holy Cross, hodj Malik Williams

969
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: from Campbell. They're going to compete for the job, but

970
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: they're both kind of perfect fits as dual threats to

971
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: be able to run this offense. They still get to

972
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: throw to Ricky White. That was a huge win for

973
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: the running ReBs to keep him away from a power

974
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: four team in those nil Riches. Great offensive line anchored

975
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: by Tiger Shanks all timer name, and defensively they should

976
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: improve because they went big in the portal. We've talked

977
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: a lot about this that it's becoming like the minor

978
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: leagues up to the majors, where all these teams they

979
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: just get ransacked in the offseason and they lose all

980
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: conference performers. They go the other way. They get Jail

981
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: and Catalan from Texas and Tony Grimes, a former five

982
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: star corner from Texas A and M. If their defense

983
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: takes a step forward and either of these quarterbacks pop,

984
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be right there with Boise

985
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: who they host this year. So I think that's interesting.

986
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: October twenty fifth circle that game one of the best

987
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: in the Mountain West against Boise State. I think that'll

988
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 1: be an interesting matchup. The schedule also, overall, in my opinion,

989
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: sets up for Mayhem. They're at Houston, They're at Kansas,

990
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: they host Syracuse all in the first five weeks. Could

991
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: they go two and one on that stretch. Crazier things

992
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: have happened Kansas, in particular, losing you know, their offensive

993
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: coordinator to Penn State is the same magic there? Can

994
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 1: they finally keep their quarterback healthy? I think there's interesting

995
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: questions and opportunities for you LB on the schedule. So

996
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: I'll go with the runnin ReBs here.

997
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't hate UNLV, but that would not have

998
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 4: been my second Mountain West pick. I'm gonna take Fresno State.

999
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 4: I know they lose Jeff Tedford, I still think this

1000
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 4: is going to be a good team. You know, he's

1001
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 4: stepping away again for half reasons, which sucks.

1002
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 3: Hopefully he's you know, doing.

1003
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 4: Okay and able to just enjoy time of his family.

1004
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 4: But Mikey Keynes back at quarterback along with eight offensive starters.

1005
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 4: They bring back running back Malik Sharad, four offensive linemen,

1006
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 4: three of their top four receivers. So I love what

1007
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 4: they're doing on offense. The defense should be much better.

1008
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 4: Devo Bridges and Garbriel Lightfoot are returning up front. This

1009
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 4: d line should be nasty. And then you'll get the schedule. Yeah,

1010
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 4: they're starting to get at Michigan, which is tough to

1011
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 4: open the season, but that's definitely the time I'd want

1012
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 4: to play them.

1013
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: Who's Michigan's quarterback? Can Alex Orgy throw the ball?

1014
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 4: If they're gonna lose, they're gonna lose Week one or

1015
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 4: you know, the last game of the year, but I

1016
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 4: like friends. Again, I don't think they win that game,

1017
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 4: but that's when i'd want to play them. You mentioned,

1018
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 4: you know, they play Washington State. That's a fun game,

1019
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 4: that's a big name that might not be as good

1020
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 4: as their name says. And then they close the year

1021
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 4: with at UCLA, which who knows what the Bruins are

1022
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 4: gonna be after a big ten slate. You know they're

1023
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 4: gonna be beat up traveling across the country. They might be,

1024
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 4: you know, a four or five win team and ready

1025
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 4: to just quit on the year. That's a big statement

1026
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 4: to finish the year fresh and people's minds going into

1027
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 4: the Mountain West title game. So I like throwing the

1028
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 4: schedule sets up for them. They have the hard competition,

1029
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 4: but they kind of get them in good spots. So

1030
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 4: I'll go ahead and take friendsnose Day. They're probably my

1031
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 4: second favorite Mountain West team.

1032
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: All right, I'll close this up with really this is

1033
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: a pure coach play. I'll go utsa. I get Jeff Trailer.

1034
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: At last three years, he's thirty two and nine with

1035
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 1: a pair of conference titles in Conference USA, Cavorian Barnes,

1036
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: Rocko Griffin, Robert Henry behind an experienced line that should

1037
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: absolutely move the chains. Now, when you look at the defense,

1038
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: the secondary could be really good, even though they lose

1039
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: wisdom in you know, the secondary, because they add Denver Harris,

1040
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: a former blue chip recruit out of the SEC. So

1041
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that they can at least be stable in

1042
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: that part of the defense. And then at quarterback here's

1043
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm always a sucker for an FCS or

1044
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: a Division two guy moving up. We already know what

1045
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: the floor is, which is own account. He looks fine

1046
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: in the bowl game, good enough for them to beat Marshall.

1047
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: You know, they played really well with the late scratch

1048
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: with Frank Harris. But Demetrius Davis from Alabama State know

1049
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: this name, former four star recruit at Texas. He wont

1050
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: not one, but two six A Texas high school championships.

1051
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: He is electric, He scrambles, he gets outside of the pocket,

1052
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: he throws off platform. He got better in his second

1053
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: year at Alabama State from an accuracy perspective, and he's

1054
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: flying under the radar because he tore his meniscus and

1055
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: didn't play a full season. If he wins this job,

1056
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: they're not gonna beat Texas on the road, but I

1057
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: think they could beat Memphis and thanks get really interesting

1058
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: if they find some weapons on the perimeter to pair

1059
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: with Davis. So I'm gonna go with the road runners.

1060
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: Meet meep. Still love coach Trailer between you know my

1061
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: bookend picks here almost, you know, between trailer and then

1062
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: Jamie Chadwell, I think we're gonna look back in five

1063
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: years and be like, how did the G five have

1064
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: these guys for so long? It's insane? How good of

1065
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: you know coaches they both are and the fact that

1066
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: they've held around.

1067
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it obviously. I'm always good for back

1068
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: and meat.

1069
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: Meat. All right, we have time for one more segment

1070
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: before we kick it to the next episode, So hit

1071
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: me with your coaches question that you were teasing before

1072
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: we started recording.

1073
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 4: So tons of new coaches in the group of five,

1074
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 4: So I have two park questions. The first time is

1075
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 4: here are the first time head coaches. I want to

1076
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Speaker 4: know who your favorite is out of this group, whether

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Speaker 4: it's favorites, is in a vacuum, favorite coach, or its

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Speaker 4: favorite who you think is going to do the best

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Speaker 4: in their role. You have Jeff Chot at Nevada, Jay

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Speaker 4: Savel at Wyoming, Spencer Danielson at Boise State, del McGee

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Speaker 4: taking over at Georgia State, Gerrod Parker coming over to Troy,

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Speaker 4: and then these two are kind of they've been head

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Speaker 4: coaches but at the FCS level coming up to the FBS.

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Speaker 4: Scottie Walden coming to UTEP from Austin p and Bob

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Speaker 4: Chesney from James at James Madison coming from holy Cross.

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Speaker 4: Of that group, who were you highest on? Which hire

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Speaker 4: do you like the most?

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Speaker 1: You know, I can't resist the people that have deep

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Speaker 1: roots into D two football, So I'm going Bob Chesney.

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Speaker 1: You know, what he did at holy Cross was a

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Speaker 1: borderline miracle, which is appropriate being at a Catholic school. Listen,

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Speaker 1: he killed it at D two Assumption. He makes three

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Speaker 1: straight playoffs there. He goes to holy Cross, they're coming

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Speaker 1: off back to back four in seven seasons. He's a

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Speaker 1: programmed builder, a resurrector. He takes them to four playoff

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Speaker 1: runs in six seasons. That just doesn't happen in Worcester, mass.

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Speaker 1: They finished sixth in the nation in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: He's the AFCA Coach of the Year that season. And

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Speaker 1: then when you look at what he has to work

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Speaker 1: with right away, yes, James Madison, you know their roster

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Speaker 1: was plundered. You hat transfers, you got people graduating. They

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Speaker 1: still get Dylan Morris, a form blue chip quarterback into

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Speaker 1: play quarterback. And when it comes to this system, if

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Speaker 1: you watch any holy Cross football, they were so effective

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Speaker 1: running the football, which made them really really good on

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Speaker 1: third downs. But last year six point three yards per

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Speaker 1: carry for the you know Crusaders. I think he's going

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Speaker 1: to establish the run again. He gets peed away in

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Speaker 1: the portal from North Carolina. He gets ADDYI from North

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Speaker 1: Texas at running back as well. I think this offense

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Speaker 1: could be top four right away. And what's interesting too,

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Speaker 1: if you watch this guy get interviewed, he looks like

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Speaker 1: a young Jeremy Renner and he's just an insane motivator.

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Speaker 1: So like the fact that this is a mini rebuild,

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Speaker 1: I think that plays perfectly to him as opposed to

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Speaker 1: getting the keys to a Ferrari and be like, just

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Speaker 1: don't crash it. I think he's going to get to

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Speaker 1: his fingerprints all of this James Madison program, which by

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Speaker 1: the way, continually hires good head coaches. It wasn't just

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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti Mike Houston before that. They know how to

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Speaker 1: hire coaches. They did their homework on this guy. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go with Chesney for.

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Speaker 4: The record, you text me I'm gonna be surprised by

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Speaker 4: her picks. I absolutely, you were picking Bob Jessney. We

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Speaker 4: got to get like a Kenny Chesney drop for him

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Speaker 4: this year. Second part of this question rehires former head

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Speaker 4: coaches now getting another job another chance. Some of them

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Speaker 4: might have an asterisk because they didn't actually like get fired,

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Speaker 4: But this list, Yeah, Ken Namatolo taking over San Jose State,

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Speaker 4: Bronco Mendenhall coming back from his little sabbatical at New

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Speaker 4: Mexico Major, Applewhite getting another chance at South Alabama, Sean

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Speaker 4: Lewis getting fired from Colorado going to San Diego State.

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Speaker 4: You have Bryant Vincent now u L Monroe, Derek Mason

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Speaker 4: taken over Middle Tennessee or I know you're not gonna

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Speaker 4: pick him, but I'll say him anyway, Tony Sanchez at

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Speaker 4: New Mexico State, and one caveat two I left John

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Speaker 4: Summer all offices because we both agree that's a phenomenal

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Speaker 4: higher So of the names I just mentioned getting second

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Speaker 4: head coaching jobs or third in some cases, who do

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Speaker 4: you think will have the most success in the second.

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Speaker 1: Time around, gimme Bronco mendon Hall.

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Speaker 3: See I knew ever pick him too.

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Speaker 4: I was like, he's either picking Neamo Tololo or I mean,

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Speaker 4: brogo my Mouf's kind of cheating because he was a

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Speaker 4: great coach and he didn't get fired. But I'm like,

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Speaker 4: he's either going Nea motlolo because I know you love

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Speaker 4: him or mend at all, But.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, what a great hire for New Mexico.

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Speaker 1: Just a phenomenal higher. He won ninety nine games at BYU.

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Speaker 1: He had four straight ten win seasons, really fun, all

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Speaker 1: offenses built around athletic qbs like Taysom Hill. He goes

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Speaker 1: to Virginia, which is such a historically difficult place to win,

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Speaker 1: builds a really fun offense around Bryce Perkins and they

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Speaker 1: make the Orange Bowl. So Devin Dan Pierre, keep that

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Speaker 1: name in mind. He could be that guy for him.

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Speaker 1: He's a little sought off quarterback, super you know, fluid

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Speaker 1: in the pocket, can do all kinds of things that

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Speaker 1: you want a dual threat to do. New Mexico could

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Speaker 1: pop at least be a fun team that gets like

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Speaker 1: four or five wins. But it's always fun to watch

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Speaker 1: on a Friday night or a late night Saturday. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the Lobos in Bronco Mendenhall,

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