Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. We are so excited to
Speaker 1: be back.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Susan, First things first, we have got to talk
Speaker 2: about Monday's episode of Paradise.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, don't judge me, fans, don't judge me for
Speaker 1: the things I'm about.
Speaker 2: So what's coming? Hi? Wait? Can I get in on
Speaker 2: that too? Don't judge me? The book? Go ahead? You start?
Speaker 1: Where should we start? We start with our girlfriend Faith, Yes,
Speaker 1: when she said and that contest a sexy hooker.
Speaker 2: And the question was, I can't believe you're bringing that up.
Speaker 2: The question was what characters would you like to play
Speaker 2: in the bedroom? And I saw that roleplay and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh no, not going down that road. I
Speaker 2: would even write nurse and doctor I wrote Mickey and
Speaker 2: middy mouth.
Speaker 1: I know, Kath, I know I saw.
Speaker 2: And Faith wrote. What did she write again?
Speaker 1: Sexy hooker?
Speaker 2: Oh God, wouldn't you love to be a flan on
Speaker 2: the wall in her bed?
Speaker 1: I would like to try to act like a sexy hooker.
Speaker 1: I don't think I could do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know that I found that. The thing
Speaker 2: I have to say about Faith and Kim in this episode,
Speaker 2: two things I want to say. One is all that
Speaker 2: seemed to go on. There was kissing. I'm like, where's
Speaker 2: the conversation? Do you know what?
Speaker 1: I noticed?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: She didn't seem like she talked to any of you.
Speaker 1: It's our Faith. We did a whole entire show with her.
Speaker 1: She's our friend. Yet she seemed only focused on him.
Speaker 1: And I'm only praying that when this show is over
Speaker 1: that they're together, because if they're not, I'm going to
Speaker 1: call you. You wanted to stay on the show. You
Speaker 1: hoped on to somebody. Is that what it's about? I
Speaker 1: mean some people do that well, Bath calling Faith, I
Speaker 1: want to know if you're still with them.
Speaker 2: I will say that I was really glad that they
Speaker 2: said because I did say that that Keith and I
Speaker 2: are good friends. That's really important.
Speaker 1: And the young ones knew that because one of them
Speaker 1: was voting one of you is off because they said
Speaker 1: they're just friends, right, But you weren't a threat to
Speaker 1: them to win that month.
Speaker 2: Were you surprised?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 2: Were you surprised that Kim and Faith were voted off?
Speaker 1: No? No, because a few of them call them, call
Speaker 1: them on it. Not that not said it to them,
Speaker 1: but they were thinking, you know, this is a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I was okay, we got that, so you know,
Speaker 2: bye bye Faith and Kim. One more thing I have
Speaker 2: to say. I have been getting shocker some hate mail
Speaker 2: on social media that I'm jealous of Kim and Faith
Speaker 2: their relationship.
Speaker 1: Well because you said get a room.
Speaker 2: Well, oh god, when he ever said bring in some oil,
Speaker 2: I thought I was going to lose my lunch. But
Speaker 2: let me just say, I am not jealous. There is
Speaker 2: one little shred of jealousy. So just to put that
Speaker 2: one to rest Faith and Kim. You yeah, not it
Speaker 2: for me, not even a little bit. And I said
Speaker 2: over and out when I saluted him, trust me.
Speaker 1: But to me, the show was great, But the whole
Speaker 1: show for me is. All I could think about was Brian.
Speaker 1: And when Wells came out and made that statement, I
Speaker 1: saluted Wells like, you are absolutely okay.
Speaker 2: But so I'm watching this and I'm like, all I
Speaker 2: could think of was that song from the sixties lies lies,
Speaker 2: like if your mouth is moving your line, I mean,
Speaker 2: here's the thing, the lies. I want you to go. Wait, Mi,
Speaker 2: I missing something here because you were watching it back.
Speaker 2: We know what they said, right, So Jeremy said he
Speaker 2: never he swore he swore to.
Speaker 1: Bailey that he did.
Speaker 2: He never said he would propose to Zzusie and Leaf. Nope,
Speaker 2: yeah he did. Check first lie. Bailey swore it wasn't
Speaker 2: Brian who told her.
Speaker 1: To because she didn't want to bury Brian.
Speaker 2: I don't care. It's another lie. Brian lied about not
Speaker 2: telling Bailey. I'm like, what is going on? And so
Speaker 2: when Wells came on, who I absolutely adore anyway, I
Speaker 2: love you Wells, I was like, finally somebody who's making
Speaker 2: some s. Yes, when they're talking about broke code, what
Speaker 2: broke code?
Speaker 1: So that's what it's about. But if we're going to
Speaker 1: say bro code code, the girls did know and they
Speaker 1: told her they didn't.
Speaker 2: So so I Okay, here's the thing. I think. I mean,
Speaker 2: based on what we saw, the girls knew that. I
Speaker 2: don't know. But as I'm watching it, I'm thinking, did
Speaker 2: you know Alex who I adore so sweet, comforting Bailey?
Speaker 2: I don't think and I don't know, but this just
Speaker 2: from watching the show, I'm not sure that all the
Speaker 2: girls knew that Jeremy had said he would propose to
Speaker 2: leave the show with her. I don't think they knew
Speaker 2: that because I think if they'd known that, I think
Speaker 2: they would have stepped up. I mean, you and I,
Speaker 2: of course were older, we would have gone right to
Speaker 2: the person said hey, girlfriend, because you don't.
Speaker 1: Want your girlfriends to look like a fool, that's right. However,
Speaker 1: he came clean and agreed that he did to and
Speaker 1: he shouldn't have, and tried to make and there to
Speaker 1: kill there again.
Speaker 2: I think he felt pressure. You're saying, Brian, yes.
Speaker 1: No, I think Brian felt no. Jeremy oh, I felt
Speaker 1: bad for Brian. I think Brian hats off to you.
Speaker 1: I know the guys are going to be pissed off
Speaker 1: at you, no bro code or whatever it is, but
Speaker 1: you actually care about Bailey, and I want her to
Speaker 1: be taken for a fool and you great, how about Marissa?
Speaker 1: While he was saying I'm going to go tell she
Speaker 1: was looking She looked like a deer in headlights, like,
Speaker 1: oh well.
Speaker 2: I don't I mean, come on, she I don't think
Speaker 2: Priest is a confrontational person. I don't think she wanted
Speaker 2: to get in the middle of it. And by by
Speaker 2: association with Brian, it was probably gonna happen. But here's
Speaker 2: the one thing that I picked up, and I was
Speaker 2: curious if you did. When Bailey goes in and wakes
Speaker 2: Jeremy up, and by the way, Jeremy looked irritated as
Speaker 2: all get out that he was being woken up. Get up,
Speaker 2: Jeremy and talk to the girl that you professed cares
Speaker 2: so much about that. I was thinking that I was.
Speaker 1: Holding on to where though I was it was crying.
Speaker 2: But and did you notice that Bailey was didn't wait
Speaker 2: for answers. She's she wakes him up, She's saying, did
Speaker 2: you do this? Did you do that? I can't believe
Speaker 2: I thought she and she calls it scream crying. She says,
Speaker 2: I was scream crying. She doesn't wait for his answers.
Speaker 2: It's almost like she just wanted to vomit out yes
Speaker 2: and not really hear his answers. And I was surprised
Speaker 2: by that.
Speaker 1: Why would you give him an opportunity to lie nobody
Speaker 1: when you're found guilty, okay, and somebody's calling you on it,
Speaker 1: and you know you're guilty. He was probably relieved that
Speaker 1: she did the scream cry, but she did.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying she didn't give him a chance to
Speaker 2: say yes, I said it, and when she finally did,
Speaker 2: he lied and said he didn't do those things, and
Speaker 2: he said he was just trying to if I heard
Speaker 2: the TV correctly, I'm sorry, Jeremy, I'm really kind of
Speaker 2: like losing it here when you say I was just
Speaker 2: trying to play paradise like what you're playing with people's
Speaker 2: emotions exactly.
Speaker 1: And I will give him, you know what, it was
Speaker 1: early when she was there, tell the truth. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't know yet. I do like her, but I
Speaker 1: didn't know how I was going to feel about you
Speaker 1: now that we've come this far. That's all he had
Speaker 1: to do, if that is the truth, because I'm second
Speaker 1: guess and everything now.
Speaker 2: That's right, and you know, if you if you lie
Speaker 2: then it's very difficult to believe anything else that comes
Speaker 2: out of your mouth. Once you've lied to me, then
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not believing much of what comes out
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: You come out here, wait to see what. But they
Speaker 1: can't happy just.
Speaker 2: Give a shout out to Keith? Can I just give
Speaker 2: a shout? He told me I looked beautiful in my
Speaker 2: red dress, and that made me feel so good. That
Speaker 2: was I thank you, Keith, and I may he really
Speaker 2: made me feel like a million bucks. The other thing
Speaker 2: was I loved how Keith said there's no right choice
Speaker 2: here who to send home. I think that is a
Speaker 2: mature vision of no good answer.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the possibility that you two could have left
Speaker 1: polity absolute?
Speaker 2: I mean, when when were you sur I was. I
Speaker 2: was a little surprised. Although I had heard some mumblings about,
Speaker 2: you know, the people talking about Kim's health with his
Speaker 2: heart monitor, which you know.
Speaker 1: And everybody assumed they were going to kick Brian off because.
Speaker 2: I yeah, because they were mad with him. I was
Speaker 2: a little surprised. I was grateful. I was so happy
Speaker 2: to be there because Keith and I really have formed
Speaker 2: a close friendship with the each other and the other
Speaker 2: cast members really care and still do care about all
Speaker 2: those young ones. I mean so so so, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's had.
Speaker 1: Taken back about how everybody reacted to all of it.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry how everyone reacted to what Brian did.
Speaker 2: Were you were surprised?
Speaker 1: You saying that at the women? At the young women?
Speaker 1: First of all, what does that say about somebody when
Speaker 1: you're all angry and the guys too, they're angry because
Speaker 1: Brian told the girl the truth? How can you be
Speaker 1: angry at that? It's the truth.
Speaker 2: I think when you're younger, sometimes you you know, you
Speaker 2: want to stay in your lane and you figure they'll
Speaker 2: work it out. I think Jeremy had said he was
Speaker 2: going to tell her and he should have. Well, but
Speaker 2: he only said he should have after he got caught
Speaker 2: with pants down, no pun intended. Yes, I mean that's
Speaker 2: when he told the truth, when he was forced when
Speaker 2: you're forced into a corner, Hey did you call her? Yes?
Speaker 2: But he still lied. He still said I didn't say
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: Gonna once you show to somebody like if you lied
Speaker 1: to me, I don't know that I'll trust one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Ever again, well, that's what I just said you two
Speaker 2: seconds ago that once you lie to me, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure I can believe anything that comes out of your mouth.
Speaker 2: So I think there was a lot of If we're
Speaker 2: wrapping this one up, it's a lot of lies wrapped
Speaker 2: up in a paradise bow. And thank you Wells for
Speaker 2: shedding the truth.
Speaker 1: Oh. I was so happy when he came out and
Speaker 1: said that. I was screaming at the your day right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was rough, but you know what, I can't
Speaker 2: wait to see, uh what happens next week. Keith and
Speaker 2: I are holding the torch now for the goldens and
Speaker 2: glad to be there. And you know, I can't wait
Speaker 2: for next Monday to see what happens.
Speaker 1: Now, You and I both you and I both.
Speaker 2: All right, It's time to get into today's episode, and
Speaker 2: as always, we're going to start things off with the
Speaker 2: question of the day. Okay, Susan, are you ready? Yes?
Speaker 2: I am, Okay. Have you ever had a friend come
Speaker 2: to you asking for advice and you've been totally stumped?
Speaker 2: What was it like? What is your go to advice
Speaker 2: when you're at a loss and there's no simple advice
Speaker 2: to be given?
Speaker 1: What says you oh baby surprise. Stumped. Yes, because I
Speaker 1: felt like I couldn't tell them really how I felt.
Speaker 1: Now today, if I was asked this and this happened,
Speaker 1: I could, But back then, I because most likely it
Speaker 1: was about a man that I disagreed and I thought
Speaker 1: he was a piece of you know what and she
Speaker 1: shouldn't be with him. But I didn't have the heart
Speaker 1: when they're so in love, that's that's an uncomfortable So.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, you're saying, now I
Speaker 2: think we're about to disagree, folks. Oh boy er shocker.
Speaker 2: Are you saying that if I came to you and
Speaker 2: ask you for advice, you might say something that is
Speaker 2: knowingly going to hurt me and make me feel badly.
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you the truth, and if that's
Speaker 1: the case, I'll lighten it the best I can. But
Speaker 1: I have to be real and honest.
Speaker 2: Yes see, I'm telling you, folks, I used to be
Speaker 2: that way. I used to be the girl that gave
Speaker 2: one hundred percent honesty. Now I'm much more. You know,
Speaker 2: our good friend Nancy taught me a lesson. She always says,
Speaker 2: when something happens or people say things, think to yourself,
Speaker 2: how would you feel so now. When someone asked me
Speaker 2: for advice, oftentimes I think, how is my answer going
Speaker 2: to make them feel? And if I know that it's
Speaker 2: going to make them feel badly, I may not be
Speaker 2: honest because, especially our age, Susan, let's face it, we're
Speaker 2: not going to change. We can change on the margin,
Speaker 2: but we're not like the young ones on Paradise. When
Speaker 2: they ask me for advice, I was brutally real because
Speaker 2: they're young enough to change, right, But I just don't
Speaker 2: think people our age.
Speaker 1: What if it was about a clothing option, you know
Speaker 1: that they tried something on they felt really good about it.
Speaker 1: Do you love this on me?
Speaker 2: Like? Well, I don't think you would be totally stumped.
Speaker 2: If I said you, Susan, what do you think of
Speaker 2: the stress? You'd say that's the ugliest thing since I
Speaker 2: say event a toast. But I think I think.
Speaker 1: Now me something that I stump me, well.
Speaker 2: I don't stump for me is the wrong word. I
Speaker 2: think you might not know how to answer something. If
Speaker 2: I said to you, Susan, if it was a dating question,
Speaker 2: you might not know how to answer it. But the
Speaker 2: answer that would come to your mind might be your truth.
Speaker 2: But for me, I might think, oh, I can't say
Speaker 2: that to Susan what I really because it might hurt her.
Speaker 2: And I used to be the girl that would say it.
Speaker 2: I think my go to advice now is more like
Speaker 2: what Nancy says, I don't know, Susan, how do you
Speaker 2: feel about it? I sort of turn a mirror back
Speaker 2: and say, how do you feel?
Speaker 1: Because that's like therapy one.
Speaker 2: So like if I said to you, okay, if you
Speaker 2: said to me, Susan, should I break up because you
Speaker 2: have one? Should I break up with my partner even
Speaker 2: though I still love them? Or is it okay to
Speaker 2: stay with Joe because he cheated on me? Do you
Speaker 2: think I'm going to say to you, I'm not. I'm
Speaker 2: going to say, I don't know, Susan, how do you
Speaker 2: feel about it?
Speaker 1: I'm living it right now with Frederick's daughter.
Speaker 2: That's right, very and you think you and and and
Speaker 2: what was? So for those of who my advice, what's
Speaker 2: your advice?
Speaker 1: If it was the first time, okay, the second time, No, that's.
Speaker 2: Starters going through a cheating episode with her boyfriend. Just
Speaker 2: so we're clear with everything. No, it's I did.
Speaker 1: Say to her, but it's up to you. Your answering
Speaker 1: my opinion, and my opinion is no way, no.
Speaker 2: And what and what was her answer to you? Said
Speaker 2: to me? She said I love him, So I would
Speaker 2: say you have to do My answer always is what
Speaker 2: do you have to do? What should you do? You
Speaker 2: have to live with your decisions, think about it carefully,
Speaker 2: and make the best decision for you. Because now, Susan,
Speaker 2: what I've learned is it's not my life. It's not
Speaker 2: my life to live with a cheater and say I
Speaker 2: love him. I'm just using that example.
Speaker 1: You can see it a third time. It's going to
Speaker 1: happen and you're going to be in a better place.
Speaker 1: Then you're going to waste another year of your life.
Speaker 2: And the answer is a lot of people are, but
Speaker 2: some point there is it's not our life. Yes, they
Speaker 2: have to learn in their own time. So I but
Speaker 2: I will say to you when I was younger, and
Speaker 2: mind you, I still have lots of advice that and
Speaker 2: sometimes it's unwanted, but remember what did Let's tell everybody
Speaker 2: what was my New Year's resolutions?
Speaker 1: And mine your business my own business.
Speaker 2: And not give people advice. And I've I'm going to
Speaker 2: give you myself an a minus. So far this year,
Speaker 2: and believe I've.
Speaker 1: Had kathy about this one. Yeah, I'm in love with
Speaker 1: someone who is already in a relationship. What should I do?
Speaker 1: That's easy to me?
Speaker 2: Oh not not if you're in love with them. It's
Speaker 2: the same thing as cheating if you're in love with
Speaker 2: that first And love love is blind. It's not just
Speaker 2: a TV show, it's an adage. Love is blind.
Speaker 1: So what advice would you get if someone.
Speaker 2: That I'm in love with someone who's in love with someone.
Speaker 1: Else who's already in a relationship.
Speaker 2: I would say, listen. If it were you, I'd say, Susan,
Speaker 2: I love you to pieces and I'm you're crazy. I
Speaker 2: would say, are you out of your mind? But I understand?
Speaker 2: But you know what you do? You coin your phrase,
Speaker 2: you have to do you. I wouldn't do it, That's
Speaker 2: what I would say. I wouldn't do it. But it's
Speaker 2: not my life, sweetie, it's your life. You have to
Speaker 2: do what brings you happiness. And ultimately, people make their
Speaker 2: own decisions. So I'm much more of a live and
Speaker 2: let live girl than I used to.
Speaker 1: And what if someone came and said, should I break
Speaker 1: up with my partner? Even though I still love them.
Speaker 2: We already we just talked about that about your your
Speaker 2: your Frederick's daughter.
Speaker 1: Yes, the answer is yes, but when.
Speaker 2: No, young, answer is The answer is not telling someone
Speaker 2: what to do.
Speaker 1: The answer is asking you. If they ask you, what
Speaker 1: would you do right? Or your advice, that is what
Speaker 1: they're saying.
Speaker 2: It's asking for your advice. And my advice always is now,
Speaker 2: you have to do what brings you happiness and joy
Speaker 2: and a decision that you can live with. It doesn't
Speaker 2: matter what I would do, Susan, I'm not living your
Speaker 2: life and that and that's me a long time to
Speaker 2: get there, so you know, yeah, that's kind of where
Speaker 2: I am. And I know it's hard. What's really hard
Speaker 2: for me, Susan, And you know this is sitting back
Speaker 2: and watching someone living. It's like watching a horror movie
Speaker 2: in slow motion.
Speaker 1: Kathy comes undone.
Speaker 2: But you know what, I used to come undone and
Speaker 2: say something. Now I just come undone, go pour myself
Speaker 2: a drink and gets a bag of EM and M's
Speaker 2: and wait for it to play out.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into our fan questions for today.
Speaker 1: I'll start yourself with the first one. Okay, okay, Sydney writes,
Speaker 1: my husband and I are trying to have a baby.
Speaker 1: This would be our first. However, I have PCOS, so
Speaker 1: I'm taking medication to help us, and it is amping
Speaker 1: up my hormones and challenging my mental health. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like I have much of a support system. I
Speaker 1: feel like lately I can't even explain to my friends
Speaker 1: about what's going on because I noticed they're not reaching
Speaker 1: out to me, or if I try to approach the topic,
Speaker 1: it quickly changed. I should mention none of my friends
Speaker 1: are married, nor do they have kids, and the advice
Speaker 1: for how to navigate this difficult and exciting time.
Speaker 2: Okay, So for those of you who don't know PCOS
Speaker 2: is polycystic ovarian syndrome. It's painful, it's not fun. There's
Speaker 2: lots of side effects, care loss, screwing with your hormones.
Speaker 2: It's a thing. But here's what I would say to you, said, Naith,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter in my opinion that your friends don't
Speaker 2: have kids or aren't married. I think your situation you
Speaker 2: need a support group. That's what I would say to you.
Speaker 2: Ask your doctor where you can find a support group
Speaker 2: for people who are going through what you're going through,
Speaker 2: and online support group. Listen, you can find a group
Speaker 2: for everything online and that would be a way to
Speaker 2: help you. It's not a fun situation to be in,
Speaker 2: and I love the fact that you say it is
Speaker 2: an exciting time because you are trying to have a baby,
Speaker 2: and of course you want to focus on that, but
Speaker 2: you've got a tough road to navigate and you need
Speaker 2: people to support you. And sometimes the people that support
Speaker 2: us aren't necessarily our closest friends or our families when
Speaker 2: we have a specific condition. What do you think is also.
Speaker 1: Your hormones are all over the place and the medication
Speaker 1: you're taking is making it even worse. But don't be
Speaker 1: upset with your friends. Maybe they don't understand it right
Speaker 1: so they avoid the subject. That's nothing against you. As
Speaker 1: Cassy said, you do need someone to talk to. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it is your spouse or your other half. Maybe he's
Speaker 1: understanding a little more because.
Speaker 2: And somebody sometimes it isn't. And sometimes you know, my
Speaker 2: daughter when she first moved to Austin after grad school,
Speaker 2: she went on Facebook for to find friends. Facebook has
Speaker 2: groups for everything, so Sydney, I would encourage you get online.
Speaker 2: Go to Facebook, see if you can find a support group.
Speaker 2: And if nothing else, it's going to be a great
Speaker 2: place to meet new friends.
Speaker 3: My daughter, I'm wishing you, we're wishing you that this
Speaker 3: situation resolves and that you get pregnant, because there's it's
Speaker 3: it's a great it's a great time.
Speaker 1: But I agree with Katy about the face group Facebook
Speaker 1: group because my daughter, when she was having problem with
Speaker 1: the implants like she's like ahead of she has so
Speaker 1: many people that she talks to, she had hers taken out.
Speaker 1: She was sick for three years and didn't know why.
Speaker 1: So you're exactly right, Kathy. I think i'd start there
Speaker 1: or therapy, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Facebook, online platforms. Ask your doctor and
Speaker 2: we wish you all the best in deals with this
Speaker 2: a really tough situation. Okay, you're ready to move on,
Speaker 2: here's the next one.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: And by the way, Sidney, let us know we hope
Speaker 2: that you get pregnant and we hope this situation resolves itself. Okay.
Speaker 2: Anonymous rights, Hi, Kathy and Susan. I love your podcast.
Speaker 2: I have never missed an episode. Well, wow, Anonymous, thank
Speaker 2: you so much. I Oh, I know you have covered
Speaker 2: issues with in laws in the past, and I'm having
Speaker 2: some issue shoes with mine. My mother in law is
Speaker 2: a pretty good grandmother to my children, but she isn't
Speaker 2: so nice to me. For example, she has called a
Speaker 2: shirt I wore hideous and joked that she wants to
Speaker 2: murder my family and me. That's not a joke, okay,
Speaker 2: said my baby's name is stupid in front of all
Speaker 2: my guests at my baby shower. The list goes on
Speaker 2: and on. My question to you, ladies is what do
Speaker 2: I do going forward. I have tried every approach I
Speaker 2: can think of. I have tried taking the high road.
Speaker 2: I have tried simply defending myself and calling her out
Speaker 2: on her bs. Nothing works. My husband said she has
Speaker 2: had a difficult upbringing which causes her to have a
Speaker 2: lack of social skills and there is no changing her.
Speaker 2: He has tried talking to her as well. I'm at
Speaker 2: a loss help. I wish one of you was my
Speaker 2: mother in law. Love you gals, we do too.
Speaker 1: Trust me.
Speaker 2: WO take you on tomorrow. You can be mine?
Speaker 1: So you trust me?
Speaker 2: You're right. I had the mother in law and father
Speaker 2: in law from hell and very similar story to you.
Speaker 2: They loved my children, did not love me, and it
Speaker 2: reallyps as Susan, and I told you it was really
Speaker 2: difficult between my husband and me. My advice is try,
Speaker 2: but you know what, if she's not going to change,
Speaker 2: she's not going to change. Let your husband spend time
Speaker 2: with her, drop the grandkids off, limit your time with her.
Speaker 1: As she said, she tried taking the high road. Ye,
Speaker 1: and she's tried defending herself and calling her out on
Speaker 1: her bs. What about like at the baby shower and
Speaker 1: she said it's stupid, And you say something like, well,
Speaker 1: you're entitled to your opinion, keep it to yourself. We
Speaker 1: don't care what you think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't say that a baby shower. And
Speaker 2: I tried those things with my mother in law and
Speaker 2: it never worked. But I will say to you, I
Speaker 2: have to take issue with something I.
Speaker 1: Would her husband.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you say that, Susan, Come on the girl.
Speaker 1: She's going to be rude and embarrass me. Then you're
Speaker 1: not welcome here. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: You want to years old, you're not you want to.
Speaker 1: Go visit with your mom? She's not welcome here, not
Speaker 1: if she's going to continue to embarrass her.
Speaker 2: Well, here's what I'm going to say. It didn't work
Speaker 2: that way for me, and it was too disruptive and
Speaker 2: hard for my husband, even though it was an issue
Speaker 2: between us. Here's what I will say. I don't buy
Speaker 2: into you, hear me, I'm emphasizing this. You know, Susan,
Speaker 2: I had a really tough upbringing. I was an abuse child.
Speaker 2: I had no modeling to be a parent until I
Speaker 2: moved in with my step mom and my dad. I
Speaker 2: didn't know what was up. When I had children. It
Speaker 2: was like WHOA. I could have been abusive and horrible
Speaker 2: like my mother. But you know what I did. I
Speaker 2: sat there and got therapy and made friends and spent
Speaker 2: my life's work to be the best mom. Did I
Speaker 2: make mistakes? Yes, So Anonymous, you need to tell your
Speaker 2: husband from me. Just blame on me, Anonymous. Having a
Speaker 2: tough upbringing blah blah blah is not an excuse. And
Speaker 2: she has a lack of social skills. Perhaps your husband
Speaker 2: might suggest that she gets some social skills.
Speaker 1: He helped talking to her as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, but otherwise otherwise you're going to end up where
Speaker 2: I ended up. My husband took my mother in law
Speaker 2: for lunch. He would go over there. I saw her
Speaker 2: exactly what.
Speaker 1: I said, Kathy let him go visit his mother and you,
Speaker 1: but you can't.
Speaker 2: Say at the baby shower, get out.
Speaker 1: Of my baby shower. But if she tells me the
Speaker 1: name I'm choosing is dam or stupid f you who
Speaker 1: asked you, it's not your child.
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to be at the baby shower, Susan
Speaker 2: where at twenty dollars? Stay where? You say to your
Speaker 2: mother in law if you the name is Jeremiah, whether
Speaker 2: you like it or not, I want to be there.
Speaker 2: I want to be there.
Speaker 1: You're entitled to your opinion, dear, Now zip it there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I'm the zip A queen. And I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have said that to my mother in law. I just
Speaker 2: chose to stay away.
Speaker 1: And you know, me and Kathy would be your mother
Speaker 1: in Law's easy, we'd be fine.
Speaker 2: I will, Anonymous. I'm going to say one thing to you.
Speaker 2: Do you know who the big loser hair is? Anonymous?
Speaker 2: Your mother in law. She might be a great grandmother,
Speaker 2: but your kids will sense that it's unfortunate. But you
Speaker 2: know what you can only change in life what you
Speaker 2: can change. Yes, So I'm sorry for you and Anonymous.
Speaker 2: If things get really tough, you reach out to me.
Speaker 2: I will be your mother in law, my son and
Speaker 2: daughter in law. Sorry, my son in law and my
Speaker 2: daughter in law say I'm the best, and I think
Speaker 2: yours think the same with you too, Susan.
Speaker 1: I wish you a lot, a lot of luck, and
Speaker 1: you know what you're going to be on my mind.
Speaker 1: I wish you patience and to be able to speak
Speaker 1: your mind when you have to.
Speaker 2: And I hope that you find a way to limit
Speaker 2: your exposure to her, because you're not going to change her. Now, Okay, Susan,
Speaker 2: Today we're going to be playing one of my favorites,
Speaker 2: Truth or DRIC Paradise edition. We're going to switch off
Speaker 2: reading the bats we're in Paradise prompt and we'll both
Speaker 2: either answer or take a drink if we don't want
Speaker 2: to answer, and I might take a drink even if
Speaker 2: I do answer. Okay, I'm going to read the first one.
Speaker 2: Who do you think went home too early and deserve
Speaker 2: to come back to the beach? And I think we
Speaker 2: could answer this in unison Nancy two three, Nancy absolutely,
Speaker 2: I mean she was there so short twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: Out of all the current couples, do you think anyone
Speaker 1: is faking a physical connection? If yes, who, I don't
Speaker 1: know what do you think, Well, I think since they
Speaker 1: had added money to the game, quite possibly. I think
Speaker 1: only half of a couple might be Come on, spit out,
Speaker 1: give me names or drink Jeremy Well, Jeremy said, I
Speaker 1: think Brian and Jeremy are both after the money I did.
Speaker 1: But are they faking a physical connection? I think Brian maybe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he doesn't.
Speaker 2: You're not your boat?
Speaker 1: No, I guess what is that?
Speaker 2: Truth? What about? What about drink? What? Any? Do you
Speaker 2: think any Goldens are faking it? I mean, remember, I'm
Speaker 2: not faking it because Keith and I have said from
Speaker 2: the beginning, is anybody faking any of the Goldens faking it?
Speaker 1: I don't think any of the Goldens are really.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Faith was making it a lot. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't mind.
Speaker 2: That's the next one here. If you could bring one
Speaker 2: more bonus person to the beach to shake things up
Speaker 2: that has not been on the season, who would you bring?
Speaker 1: Hmmm?
Speaker 2: Oh, how about.
Speaker 1: Jordan's Jordans?
Speaker 2: You mean for the Goldens?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Why do you say that?
Speaker 1: Because I think he was a hot commodity and I
Speaker 1: think Leslie would dump Gary.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what I'm going to bring to that
Speaker 2: let's let's see what we really think here.
Speaker 1: How about you?
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't think about the Goldens because so many
Speaker 2: of them, you know, that's all. I also think they
Speaker 2: should bring c K back. By the way, I think
Speaker 2: he had two short a time on the beach, just
Speaker 2: saying yeah, he's a bad one. I don't know one
Speaker 2: bonus person. I think any of the young ones would
Speaker 2: have been fun to stir things up. So really, any
Speaker 2: any any of the young ones that got close? Oh
Speaker 2: I know, ready, yeah, Maria from Joey's season, she would
Speaker 2: have been great. I would want to spend.
Speaker 1: Everyone that hit the beach this summer. Who do you
Speaker 1: think came for the wrong reasons?
Speaker 2: Well, clearly Jeremy and Brian, because they're in it just
Speaker 2: for the money. I mean the minute that money was
Speaker 2: mentioned and they were in it. I don't think I
Speaker 2: think all of the Goldens, including myself, came for the
Speaker 2: right reasons. We were all hoping to find love. But
Speaker 2: I think based on what we're seeing on the TV, Jeremy.
Speaker 1: Looked like they're ready to fall in love. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're just in it to win it. And like I said,
Speaker 1: since they added the money, it's a whole new ball game.
Speaker 2: Do you do you think do you think Gary came
Speaker 2: for love?
Speaker 1: I would wanted to think that, yes, but now after
Speaker 1: I've seen him play with all these women, I'm not
Speaker 1: so sure. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, who do you think had the worst luck in Paradise?
Speaker 2: I can tell you how about me.
Speaker 1: You will just find Kathys luck. Who are still in
Speaker 1: a relationship that I don't think are going to make it?
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's that. Get like who Jeremy and Bailey.
Speaker 1: Yes, you married? About Cat and Dale?
Speaker 2: Cat and Dale? Yeah? I like them too. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you who I feel like had the worst
Speaker 2: luck was Jill and Leah. Everybody put them in the
Speaker 2: friend zone. Jonathan had the chance to have a relationship
Speaker 2: with him and he kept, you know, not finding the one.
Speaker 2: But Jill when she left saying I'm so tired of
Speaker 2: being in the friend zone, my heart went out.
Speaker 1: To her for her to what was the most shocking
Speaker 1: moment thus.
Speaker 2: Far, Oh that's easy, go ahead, when Jeremy said I
Speaker 2: don't care about those golden send them home. Jeremy, I'm
Speaker 2: coming for you, buddy. I know where you live, and
Speaker 2: I am coming for you.
Speaker 1: What did you think was a shocking moment? Actually, I'm
Speaker 1: not shocked. But when April smelled the underwear, Oh god, oh.
Speaker 2: I forgot that. Wait, April, what were you thinking? Not
Speaker 2: only did you sniff his underwear, you stuck it in
Speaker 2: your bra. Come on, April, Goldens have more class than that.
Speaker 2: Good god, I'd forgotten that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So, Kathy, who do you think has
Speaker 1: displayed the biggest red flag thus far in this season?
Speaker 2: You know, I hate to keep picking on Brian and Jeremy,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to keep picking on him because I
Speaker 2: think I just I feel like they're not there. Jeremy,
Speaker 2: when you say you're there for money, but you but
Speaker 2: you look like you're there for love, that's a problem.
Speaker 2: I think. I think Kat and Dale I saw I'm
Speaker 2: definitely looking for love. I think Alicia Alicia, I love her.
Speaker 2: But it's a little bit of a red flag to me.
Speaker 2: When you say I really want Dale, I want Dale,
Speaker 2: and then he doesn't choose you, and then you say
Speaker 2: I'm okay with losing Dale, I also cannot. I mean,
Speaker 2: I got a lot of red flags waving around here,
Speaker 2: don't I What about what about Jeremy saying that red
Speaker 2: flag man. That is ten red flags and Crimson waving.
Speaker 2: When he says he wished Susie came back, you would
Speaker 2: have gotten on one knee and proposed to her, Bailey,
Speaker 2: that is a red flag. Yes.
Speaker 1: Do you think any of the couples are settling? What
Speaker 1: do you think just to be together to stay on
Speaker 1: the show?
Speaker 2: Yes? What do you think?
Speaker 1: I do who I do? And I once again, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a mutual thing. I think it's only
Speaker 1: half because I feel like Jeremy is there to play
Speaker 1: the game. I don't feel like after this is all over,
Speaker 1: I think Bally's going to be crushed. But I don't
Speaker 1: know anybody else. Kat and Dale, I don't know that
Speaker 1: I trust it, although I do like them together.
Speaker 2: Dale and Kat, Yeah, I like them together too. I
Speaker 2: think Kat's got a little bit of you know, so far,
Speaker 2: she seems like she's struggling to trust it and open
Speaker 2: up right she doesn't. I think if she can get
Speaker 2: past that, maybe YE do have a chance. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think cool. Do you think Getting the Goldens are selling?
Speaker 1: Well? You couldn't really say settling now because you and
Speaker 1: Teith it's not a love romance. It's a friendship, so
Speaker 1: that doesn't even count.
Speaker 2: What do you think about Leslie and Gary?
Speaker 1: Leslie and Gary? I think Leslie would be in it
Speaker 1: to win it, I really do, and no, no, no,
Speaker 1: in a relationship. I think she would definitely want to
Speaker 1: develop a relationship with him, although I don't think is
Speaker 1: really true. I don't.
Speaker 2: What do you think about Kim and Faith.
Speaker 1: I think Kim's going to be crushed because Faith is
Speaker 1: in it right now that I see, especially after the
Speaker 1: other night's episode, because they talked about things that were
Speaker 1: really important and they felt each other. I'll never forget
Speaker 1: when Nancy when they who was it that shared with
Speaker 1: Nancy about the death of his wife and how upset
Speaker 1: she became. She really paid attention.
Speaker 2: I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I don't know who she was talking with.
Speaker 2: It was really and oh do you mean wait, are
Speaker 2: you talking about Kim? Kim lost Kim? Okay, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: Nancy was talking to Kim. But here's the thing. Is
Speaker 2: Kim settling or is Faith settling? Because remember Kim wrote
Speaker 2: a poem for Leslie and that didn't work out so
Speaker 2: well and.
Speaker 1: Then he was fine love and if this one, don't worry,
Speaker 1: So that settling.
Speaker 2: Just settling for anyone who will take you.
Speaker 1: I mean, not only to me, means they're together and
Speaker 1: it wasn't really what they wanted, but they'll settle for this.
Speaker 2: It's not or or does it mean that nobody wants
Speaker 2: me and I'll take anybody you want?
Speaker 1: It could whatever, tells Kim. When Jeremy said he didn't
Speaker 1: like the Goldens being in Paradise, mine literally dropped.
Speaker 2: Hey, your mouth. I spent a lot of time with him.
Speaker 2: I told you I had to rewind the TV, like,
Speaker 2: I don't care if the Goldens go home. I don't,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't. I don't like them. Bean here,
Speaker 2: I don't care like Jeremy. Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 2: When you open your mouth and say things like that,
Speaker 2: there are a lot of us Goldens who are not happy.
Speaker 1: And it's not one to tell you the truth because
Speaker 1: I'm on the outside looking in. Okay, when the show started,
Speaker 1: I watched okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, And when the gold arrived,
Speaker 1: it changed that. It brought life to the show. It
Speaker 1: was exciting meeting and seeing everybody like yeah, so shut.
Speaker 2: Your mouth, yeah, Jeremy, thank you. I mean you heard
Speaker 2: it from Susan and everything that comes out of Susan's mouth.
Speaker 2: It's worth listening to.
Speaker 1: Hello Jeremy.
Speaker 2: Hey Susan, listening to Jeremy shut into your mouth, tell
Speaker 2: him zip at Jeremy, you have it. I told you.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that was so much fun. Thank you
Speaker 1: to all our listeners for joining us today, and.
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Speaker 3: Mm hmm