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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Susan, First things first, we have got to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Monday's episode of Paradise.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, don't judge me, fans, don't judge me for

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<v Speaker 1>the things I'm about.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's coming? Hi? Wait? Can I get in on

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<v Speaker 2>that too? Don't judge me? The book? Go ahead? You start?

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<v Speaker 1>Where should we start? We start with our girlfriend Faith, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>when she said and that contest a sexy hooker.

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<v Speaker 2>And the question was, I can't believe you're bringing that up.

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<v Speaker 2>The question was what characters would you like to play

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<v Speaker 2>in the bedroom? And I saw that roleplay and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh no, not going down that road. I

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<v Speaker 2>would even write nurse and doctor I wrote Mickey and

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<v Speaker 2>middy mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Kath, I know I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>And Faith wrote. What did she write again?

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<v Speaker 1>Sexy hooker?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, wouldn't you love to be a flan on

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<v Speaker 2>the wall in her bed?

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to try to act like a sexy hooker.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I could do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't know that I found that. The thing

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say about Faith and Kim in this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>two things I want to say. One is all that

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<v Speaker 2>seemed to go on. There was kissing. I'm like, where's

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation? Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't seem like she talked to any of you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's our Faith. We did a whole entire show with her.

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<v Speaker 1>She's our friend. Yet she seemed only focused on him.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm only praying that when this show is over

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<v Speaker 1>that they're together, because if they're not, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>call you. You wanted to stay on the show. You

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<v Speaker 1>hoped on to somebody. Is that what it's about? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean some people do that well, Bath calling Faith, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know if you're still with them.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that I was really glad that they

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<v Speaker 2>said because I did say that that Keith and I

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<v Speaker 2>are good friends. That's really important.

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<v Speaker 1>And the young ones knew that because one of them

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<v Speaker 1>was voting one of you is off because they said

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<v Speaker 1>they're just friends, right, But you weren't a threat to

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<v Speaker 1>them to win that month.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you surprised?

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<v Speaker 1>Huh?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you surprised that Kim and Faith were voted off?

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<v Speaker 1>No? No, because a few of them call them, call

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<v Speaker 1>them on it. Not that not said it to them,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were thinking, you know, this is a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, I was okay, we got that, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>bye bye Faith and Kim. One more thing I have

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<v Speaker 2>to say. I have been getting shocker some hate mail

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<v Speaker 2>on social media that I'm jealous of Kim and Faith

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<v Speaker 2>their relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Well because you said get a room.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, oh god, when he ever said bring in some oil,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I was going to lose my lunch. But

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<v Speaker 2>let me just say, I am not jealous. There is

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<v Speaker 2>one little shred of jealousy. So just to put that

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<v Speaker 2>one to rest Faith and Kim. You yeah, not it

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<v Speaker 2>for me, not even a little bit. And I said

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<v Speaker 2>over and out when I saluted him, trust me.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, the show was great, But the whole

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<v Speaker 1>show for me is. All I could think about was Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>And when Wells came out and made that statement, I

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<v Speaker 1>saluted Wells like, you are absolutely okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But so I'm watching this and I'm like, all I

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<v Speaker 2>could think of was that song from the sixties lies lies,

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<v Speaker 2>like if your mouth is moving your line, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing, the lies. I want you to go. Wait, Mi,

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<v Speaker 2>I missing something here because you were watching it back.

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<v Speaker 2>We know what they said, right, So Jeremy said he

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<v Speaker 2>never he swore he swore to.

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<v Speaker 1>Bailey that he did.

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<v Speaker 2>He never said he would propose to Zzusie and Leaf. Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah he did. Check first lie. Bailey swore it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>Brian who told her.

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<v Speaker 1>To because she didn't want to bury Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. It's another lie. Brian lied about not

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<v Speaker 2>telling Bailey. I'm like, what is going on? And so

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<v Speaker 2>when Wells came on, who I absolutely adore anyway, I

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<v Speaker 2>love you Wells, I was like, finally somebody who's making

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<v Speaker 2>some s. Yes, when they're talking about broke code, what

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<v Speaker 2>broke code?

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what it's about. But if we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>say bro code code, the girls did know and they

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<v Speaker 1>told her they didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>So so I Okay, here's the thing. I think. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>based on what we saw, the girls knew that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. But as I'm watching it, I'm thinking, did

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<v Speaker 2>you know Alex who I adore so sweet, comforting Bailey?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think and I don't know, but this just

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<v Speaker 2>from watching the show, I'm not sure that all the

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<v Speaker 2>girls knew that Jeremy had said he would propose to

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<v Speaker 2>leave the show with her. I don't think they knew

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<v Speaker 2>that because I think if they'd known that, I think

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<v Speaker 2>they would have stepped up. I mean, you and I,

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<v Speaker 2>of course were older, we would have gone right to

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<v Speaker 2>the person said hey, girlfriend, because you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Want your girlfriends to look like a fool, that's right. However,

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<v Speaker 1>he came clean and agreed that he did to and

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<v Speaker 1>he shouldn't have, and tried to make and there to

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<v Speaker 1>kill there again.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he felt pressure. You're saying, Brian, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think Brian felt no. Jeremy oh, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>bad for Brian. I think Brian hats off to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the guys are going to be pissed off

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<v Speaker 1>at you, no bro code or whatever it is, but

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<v Speaker 1>you actually care about Bailey, and I want her to

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<v Speaker 1>be taken for a fool and you great, how about Marissa?

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<v Speaker 1>While he was saying I'm going to go tell she

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<v Speaker 1>was looking She looked like a deer in headlights, like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh well.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I mean, come on, she I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>Priest is a confrontational person. I don't think she wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to get in the middle of it. And by by

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<v Speaker 2>association with Brian, it was probably gonna happen. But here's

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing that I picked up, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>curious if you did. When Bailey goes in and wakes

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremy up, and by the way, Jeremy looked irritated as

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<v Speaker 2>all get out that he was being woken up. Get up,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremy and talk to the girl that you professed cares

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<v Speaker 2>so much about that. I was thinking that I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Holding on to where though I was it was crying.

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<v Speaker 2>But and did you notice that Bailey was didn't wait

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<v Speaker 2>for answers. She's she wakes him up, She's saying, did

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<v Speaker 2>you do this? Did you do that? I can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>I thought she and she calls it scream crying. She says,

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<v Speaker 2>I was scream crying. She doesn't wait for his answers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like she just wanted to vomit out yes

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<v Speaker 2>and not really hear his answers. And I was surprised

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<v Speaker 2>by that.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you give him an opportunity to lie nobody

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<v Speaker 1>when you're found guilty, okay, and somebody's calling you on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know you're guilty. He was probably relieved that

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<v Speaker 1>she did the scream cry, but she did.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm saying she didn't give him a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>say yes, I said it, and when she finally did,

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<v Speaker 2>he lied and said he didn't do those things, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said he was just trying to if I heard

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<v Speaker 2>the TV correctly, I'm sorry, Jeremy, I'm really kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like losing it here when you say I was just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to play paradise like what you're playing with people's

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<v Speaker 2>emotions exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will give him, you know what, it was

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<v Speaker 1>early when she was there, tell the truth. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know yet. I do like her, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know how I was going to feel about you

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<v Speaker 1>now that we've come this far. That's all he had

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<v Speaker 1>to do, if that is the truth, because I'm second

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<v Speaker 1>guess and everything now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, and you know, if you if you lie

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<v Speaker 2>then it's very difficult to believe anything else that comes

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<v Speaker 2>out of your mouth. Once you've lied to me, then

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not believing much of what comes out

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You come out here, wait to see what. But they

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<v Speaker 1>can't happy just.

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<v Speaker 2>Give a shout out to Keith? Can I just give

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<v Speaker 2>a shout? He told me I looked beautiful in my

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<v Speaker 2>red dress, and that made me feel so good. That

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<v Speaker 2>was I thank you, Keith, and I may he really

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<v Speaker 2>made me feel like a million bucks. The other thing

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<v Speaker 2>was I loved how Keith said there's no right choice

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<v Speaker 2>here who to send home. I think that is a

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<v Speaker 2>mature vision of no good answer.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't the possibility that you two could have left

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<v Speaker 1>polity absolute?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, when when were you sur I was. I

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<v Speaker 2>was a little surprised. Although I had heard some mumblings about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the people talking about Kim's health with his

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<v Speaker 2>heart monitor, which you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody assumed they were going to kick Brian off because.

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, because they were mad with him. I was

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<v Speaker 2>a little surprised. I was grateful. I was so happy

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<v Speaker 2>to be there because Keith and I really have formed

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<v Speaker 2>a close friendship with the each other and the other

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<v Speaker 2>cast members really care and still do care about all

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<v Speaker 2>those young ones. I mean so so so, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think it's had.

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<v Speaker 1>Taken back about how everybody reacted to all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sorry how everyone reacted to what Brian did.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you were surprised?

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<v Speaker 1>You saying that at the women? At the young women?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, what does that say about somebody when

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<v Speaker 1>you're all angry and the guys too, they're angry because

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<v Speaker 1>Brian told the girl the truth? How can you be

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<v Speaker 1>angry at that? It's the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you're younger, sometimes you you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to stay in your lane and you figure they'll

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<v Speaker 2>work it out. I think Jeremy had said he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to tell her and he should have. Well, but

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<v Speaker 2>he only said he should have after he got caught

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<v Speaker 2>with pants down, no pun intended. Yes, I mean that's

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<v Speaker 2>when he told the truth, when he was forced when

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<v Speaker 2>you're forced into a corner, Hey did you call her? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>But he still lied. He still said I didn't say

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna once you show to somebody like if you lied

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I don't know that I'll trust one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever again, well, that's what I just said you two

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<v Speaker 2>seconds ago that once you lie to me, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure I can believe anything that comes out of your mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think there was a lot of If we're

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<v Speaker 2>wrapping this one up, it's a lot of lies wrapped

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<v Speaker 2>up in a paradise bow. And thank you Wells for

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<v Speaker 2>shedding the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. I was so happy when he came out and

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<v Speaker 1>said that. I was screaming at the your day right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was rough, but you know what, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>wait to see, uh what happens next week. Keith and

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<v Speaker 2>I are holding the torch now for the goldens and

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<v Speaker 2>glad to be there. And you know, I can't wait

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<v Speaker 2>for next Monday to see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, You and I both you and I both.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, It's time to get into today's episode, and

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<v Speaker 2>as always, we're going to start things off with the

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<v Speaker 2>question of the day. Okay, Susan, are you ready? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>I am, Okay. Have you ever had a friend come

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<v Speaker 2>to you asking for advice and you've been totally stumped?

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<v Speaker 2>What was it like? What is your go to advice

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<v Speaker 2>when you're at a loss and there's no simple advice

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<v Speaker 2>to be given?

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<v Speaker 1>What says you oh baby surprise. Stumped. Yes, because I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I couldn't tell them really how I felt.

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<v Speaker 1>Now today, if I was asked this and this happened,

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<v Speaker 1>I could, But back then, I because most likely it

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<v Speaker 1>was about a man that I disagreed and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was a piece of you know what and she

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be with him. But I didn't have the heart

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<v Speaker 1>when they're so in love, that's that's an uncomfortable So.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, Wait a minute, you're saying, now I

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<v Speaker 2>think we're about to disagree, folks. Oh boy er shocker.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you saying that if I came to you and

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<v Speaker 2>ask you for advice, you might say something that is

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<v Speaker 2>knowingly going to hurt me and make me feel badly.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tell you the truth, and if that's

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<v Speaker 1>the case, I'll lighten it the best I can. But

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<v Speaker 1>I have to be real and honest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes see, I'm telling you, folks, I used to be

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<v Speaker 2>that way. I used to be the girl that gave

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent honesty. Now I'm much more. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>our good friend Nancy taught me a lesson. She always says,

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<v Speaker 2>when something happens or people say things, think to yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>how would you feel so now. When someone asked me

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<v Speaker 2>for advice, oftentimes I think, how is my answer going

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<v Speaker 2>to make them feel? And if I know that it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to make them feel badly, I may not be

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<v Speaker 2>honest because, especially our age, Susan, let's face it, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to change. We can change on the margin,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're not like the young ones on Paradise. When

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<v Speaker 2>they ask me for advice, I was brutally real because

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<v Speaker 2>they're young enough to change, right, But I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>think people our age.

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<v Speaker 1>What if it was about a clothing option, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that they tried something on they felt really good about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you love this on me?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? Well, I don't think you would be totally stumped.

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<v Speaker 2>If I said you, Susan, what do you think of

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<v Speaker 2>the stress? You'd say that's the ugliest thing since I

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<v Speaker 2>say event a toast. But I think I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Now me something that I stump me, well.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't stump for me is the wrong word. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you might not know how to answer something. If

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<v Speaker 2>I said to you, Susan, if it was a dating question,

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<v Speaker 2>you might not know how to answer it. But the

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<v Speaker 2>answer that would come to your mind might be your truth.

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<v Speaker 2>But for me, I might think, oh, I can't say

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<v Speaker 2>that to Susan what I really because it might hurt her.

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<v Speaker 2>And I used to be the girl that would say it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think my go to advice now is more like

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<v Speaker 2>what Nancy says, I don't know, Susan, how do you

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<v Speaker 2>feel about it? I sort of turn a mirror back

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<v Speaker 2>and say, how do you feel?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's like therapy one.

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<v Speaker 2>So like if I said to you, okay, if you

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<v Speaker 2>said to me, Susan, should I break up because you

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<v Speaker 2>have one? Should I break up with my partner even

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<v Speaker 2>though I still love them? Or is it okay to

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<v Speaker 2>stay with Joe because he cheated on me? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm going to say to you, I'm not. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to say, I don't know, Susan, how do you

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<v Speaker 2>feel about it?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm living it right now with Frederick's daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, very and you think you and and and

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<v Speaker 2>what was? So for those of who my advice, what's

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<v Speaker 2>your advice?

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<v Speaker 1>If it was the first time, okay, the second time, No, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Starters going through a cheating episode with her boyfriend. Just

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<v Speaker 2>so we're clear with everything. No, it's I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Say to her, but it's up to you. Your answering

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, and my opinion is no way, no.

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<v Speaker 2>And what and what was her answer to you? Said

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<v Speaker 2>to me? She said I love him, So I would

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<v Speaker 2>say you have to do My answer always is what

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<v Speaker 2>do you have to do? What should you do? You

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<v Speaker 2>have to live with your decisions, think about it carefully,

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<v Speaker 2>and make the best decision for you. Because now, Susan,

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<v Speaker 2>what I've learned is it's not my life. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>my life to live with a cheater and say I

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<v Speaker 2>love him. I'm just using that example.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see it a third time. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen and you're going to be in a better place.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you're going to waste another year of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>And the answer is a lot of people are, but

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<v Speaker 2>some point there is it's not our life. Yes, they

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<v Speaker 2>have to learn in their own time. So I but

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<v Speaker 2>I will say to you when I was younger, and

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<v Speaker 2>mind you, I still have lots of advice that and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's unwanted, but remember what did Let's tell everybody

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<v Speaker 2>what was my New Year's resolutions?

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<v Speaker 1>And mine your business my own business.

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<v Speaker 2>And not give people advice. And I've I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>give you myself an a minus. So far this year,

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<v Speaker 2>and believe I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Had kathy about this one. Yeah, I'm in love with

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<v Speaker 1>someone who is already in a relationship. What should I do?

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<v Speaker 1>That's easy to me?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh not not if you're in love with them. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing as cheating if you're in love with

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<v Speaker 2>that first And love love is blind. It's not just

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<v Speaker 2>a TV show, it's an adage. Love is blind.

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<v Speaker 1>So what advice would you get if someone.

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<v Speaker 2>That I'm in love with someone who's in love with someone.

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<v Speaker 1>Else who's already in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, listen. If it were you, I'd say, Susan,

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<v Speaker 2>I love you to pieces and I'm you're crazy. I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, are you out of your mind? But I understand?

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what you do? You coin your phrase,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do you. I wouldn't do it, That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I would say. I wouldn't do it. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>not my life, sweetie, it's your life. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>do what brings you happiness. And ultimately, people make their

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<v Speaker 2>own decisions. So I'm much more of a live and

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<v Speaker 2>let live girl than I used to.

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<v Speaker 1>And what if someone came and said, should I break

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<v Speaker 1>up with my partner? Even though I still love them.

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<v Speaker 2>We already we just talked about that about your your

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<v Speaker 2>your Frederick's daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the answer is yes, but when.

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<v Speaker 2>No, young, answer is The answer is not telling someone

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<v Speaker 2>what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>The answer is asking you. If they ask you, what

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<v Speaker 1>would you do right? Or your advice, that is what

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's asking for your advice. And my advice always is now,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do what brings you happiness and joy

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<v Speaker 2>and a decision that you can live with. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter what I would do, Susan, I'm not living your

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<v Speaker 2>life and that and that's me a long time to

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<v Speaker 2>get there, so you know, yeah, that's kind of where

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<v Speaker 2>I am. And I know it's hard. What's really hard

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<v Speaker 2>for me, Susan, And you know this is sitting back

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<v Speaker 2>and watching someone living. It's like watching a horror movie

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<v Speaker 2>in slow motion.

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<v Speaker 1>Kathy comes undone.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, I used to come undone and

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<v Speaker 2>say something. Now I just come undone, go pour myself

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<v Speaker 2>a drink and gets a bag of EM and M's

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<v Speaker 2>and wait for it to play out.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get into our fan questions for today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start yourself with the first one. Okay, okay, Sydney writes,

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<v Speaker 1>my husband and I are trying to have a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>This would be our first. However, I have PCOS, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking medication to help us, and it is amping

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<v Speaker 1>up my hormones and challenging my mental health. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I have much of a support system. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like lately I can't even explain to my friends

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<v Speaker 1>about what's going on because I noticed they're not reaching

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<v Speaker 1>out to me, or if I try to approach the topic,

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<v Speaker 1>it quickly changed. I should mention none of my friends

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<v Speaker 1>are married, nor do they have kids, and the advice

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<v Speaker 1>for how to navigate this difficult and exciting time.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So for those of you who don't know PCOS

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<v Speaker 2>is polycystic ovarian syndrome. It's painful, it's not fun. There's

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<v Speaker 2>lots of side effects, care loss, screwing with your hormones.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a thing. But here's what I would say to you, said, Naith,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter in my opinion that your friends don't

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<v Speaker 2>have kids or aren't married. I think your situation you

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<v Speaker 2>need a support group. That's what I would say to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask your doctor where you can find a support group

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<v Speaker 2>for people who are going through what you're going through,

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<v Speaker 2>and online support group. Listen, you can find a group

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<v Speaker 2>for everything online and that would be a way to

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<v Speaker 2>help you. It's not a fun situation to be in,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love the fact that you say it is

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<v Speaker 2>an exciting time because you are trying to have a baby,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course you want to focus on that, but

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a tough road to navigate and you need

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<v Speaker 2>people to support you. And sometimes the people that support

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<v Speaker 2>us aren't necessarily our closest friends or our families when

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<v Speaker 2>we have a specific condition. What do you think is also.

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<v Speaker 1>Your hormones are all over the place and the medication

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<v Speaker 1>you're taking is making it even worse. But don't be

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<v Speaker 1>upset with your friends. Maybe they don't understand it right

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<v Speaker 1>so they avoid the subject. That's nothing against you. As

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<v Speaker 1>Cassy said, you do need someone to talk to. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it is your spouse or your other half. Maybe he's

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<v Speaker 1>understanding a little more because.

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<v Speaker 2>And somebody sometimes it isn't. And sometimes you know, my

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<v Speaker 2>daughter when she first moved to Austin after grad school,

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<v Speaker 2>she went on Facebook for to find friends. Facebook has

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<v Speaker 2>groups for everything, so Sydney, I would encourage you get online.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Facebook, see if you can find a support group.

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<v Speaker 2>And if nothing else, it's going to be a great

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<v Speaker 2>place to meet new friends.

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<v Speaker 3>My daughter, I'm wishing you, we're wishing you that this

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<v Speaker 3>situation resolves and that you get pregnant, because there's it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's a great it's a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I agree with Katy about the face group Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>group because my daughter, when she was having problem with

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<v Speaker 1>the implants like she's like ahead of she has so

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<v Speaker 1>many people that she talks to, she had hers taken out.

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<v Speaker 1>She was sick for three years and didn't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're exactly right, Kathy. I think i'd start there

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<v Speaker 1>or therapy, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean Facebook, online platforms. Ask your doctor and

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<v Speaker 2>we wish you all the best in deals with this

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<v Speaker 2>a really tough situation. Okay, you're ready to move on,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the next one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, Sidney, let us know we hope

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<v Speaker 2>that you get pregnant and we hope this situation resolves itself. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Anonymous rights, Hi, Kathy and Susan. I love your podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I have never missed an episode. Well, wow, Anonymous, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much. I Oh, I know you have covered

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<v Speaker 2>issues with in laws in the past, and I'm having

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<v Speaker 2>some issue shoes with mine. My mother in law is

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good grandmother to my children, but she isn't

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<v Speaker 2>so nice to me. For example, she has called a

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<v Speaker 2>shirt I wore hideous and joked that she wants to

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<v Speaker 2>murder my family and me. That's not a joke, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>said my baby's name is stupid in front of all

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<v Speaker 2>my guests at my baby shower. The list goes on

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<v Speaker 2>and on. My question to you, ladies is what do

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<v Speaker 2>I do going forward. I have tried every approach I

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<v Speaker 2>can think of. I have tried taking the high road.

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<v Speaker 2>I have tried simply defending myself and calling her out

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<v Speaker 2>on her bs. Nothing works. My husband said she has

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<v Speaker 2>had a difficult upbringing which causes her to have a

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<v Speaker 2>lack of social skills and there is no changing her.

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<v Speaker 2>He has tried talking to her as well. I'm at

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<v Speaker 2>a loss help. I wish one of you was my

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<v Speaker 2>mother in law. Love you gals, we do too.

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<v Speaker 1>Trust me.

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<v Speaker 2>WO take you on tomorrow. You can be mine?

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<v Speaker 1>So you trust me?

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<v Speaker 2>You're right. I had the mother in law and father

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<v Speaker 2>in law from hell and very similar story to you.

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 2>They loved my children, did not love me, and it

0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:18.439
<v Speaker 2>reallyps as Susan, and I told you it was really

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:24.919
<v Speaker 2>difficult between my husband and me. My advice is try,

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:27.920
<v Speaker 2>but you know what, if she's not going to change,

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:30.640
<v Speaker 2>she's not going to change. Let your husband spend time

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 2>with her, drop the grandkids off, limit your time with her.

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:38.119
<v Speaker 1>As she said, she tried taking the high road. Ye,

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and she's tried defending herself and calling her out on

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:47.919
<v Speaker 1>her bs. What about like at the baby shower and

0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>she said it's stupid, And you say something like, well,

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you're entitled to your opinion, keep it to yourself. We

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>don't care what you think.

0:25:57.480 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you can't say that a baby shower. And

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.239
<v Speaker 2>I tried those things with my mother in law and

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.920
<v Speaker 2>it never worked. But I will say to you, I

0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 2>have to take issue with something I.

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Would her husband.

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you say that, Susan, Come on the girl.

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 1>She's going to be rude and embarrass me. Then you're

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>not welcome here. I'm sorry.

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 2>You want to years old, you're not you want to.

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Go visit with your mom? She's not welcome here, not

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 1>if she's going to continue to embarrass her.

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, here's what I'm going to say. It didn't work

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.119
<v Speaker 2>that way for me, and it was too disruptive and

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 2>hard for my husband, even though it was an issue

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 2>between us. Here's what I will say. I don't buy

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 2>into you, hear me, I'm emphasizing this. You know, Susan,

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 2>I had a really tough upbringing. I was an abuse child.

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:56.399
<v Speaker 2>I had no modeling to be a parent until I

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 2>moved in with my step mom and my dad. I

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't know what was up. When I had children. It

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 2>was like WHOA. I could have been abusive and horrible

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:09.479
<v Speaker 2>like my mother. But you know what I did. I

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 2>sat there and got therapy and made friends and spent

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 2>my life's work to be the best mom. Did I

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 2>make mistakes? Yes, So Anonymous, you need to tell your

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 2>husband from me. Just blame on me, Anonymous. Having a

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 2>tough upbringing blah blah blah is not an excuse. And

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 2>she has a lack of social skills. Perhaps your husband

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 2>might suggest that she gets some social skills.

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 1>He helped talking to her as well.

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but otherwise otherwise you're going to end up where

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I ended up. My husband took my mother in law

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 2>for lunch. He would go over there. I saw her

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 2>exactly what.

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 1>I said, Kathy let him go visit his mother and you,

0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>but you can't.

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Say at the baby shower, get out.

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Of my baby shower. But if she tells me the

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>name I'm choosing is dam or stupid f you who

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>asked you, it's not your child.

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I want to be at the baby shower, Susan

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 2>where at twenty dollars? Stay where? You say to your

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 2>mother in law if you the name is Jeremiah, whether

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 2>you like it or not, I want to be there.

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 2>I want to be there.

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 1>You're entitled to your opinion, dear, Now zip it there.

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, listen, I'm the zip A queen. And I wouldn't

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 2>have said that to my mother in law. I just

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 2>chose to stay away.

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>And you know, me and Kathy would be your mother

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>in Law's easy, we'd be fine.

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I will, Anonymous. I'm going to say one thing to you.

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Do you know who the big loser hair is? Anonymous?

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Your mother in law. She might be a great grandmother,

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>but your kids will sense that it's unfortunate. But you

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 2>know what you can only change in life what you

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 2>can change. Yes, So I'm sorry for you and Anonymous.

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 2>If things get really tough, you reach out to me.

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 2>I will be your mother in law, my son and

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 2>daughter in law. Sorry, my son in law and my

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 2>daughter in law say I'm the best, and I think

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 2>yours think the same with you too, Susan.

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I wish you a lot, a lot of luck, and

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>you know what you're going to be on my mind.

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I wish you patience and to be able to speak

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>your mind when you have to.

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 2>And I hope that you find a way to limit

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 2>your exposure to her, because you're not going to change her. Now, Okay, Susan,

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Today we're going to be playing one of my favorites,

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Truth or DRIC Paradise edition. We're going to switch off

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 2>reading the bats we're in Paradise prompt and we'll both

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 2>either answer or take a drink if we don't want

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 2>to answer, and I might take a drink even if

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 2>I do answer. Okay, I'm going to read the first one.

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Who do you think went home too early and deserve

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 2>to come back to the beach? And I think we

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 2>could answer this in unison Nancy two three, Nancy absolutely,

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean she was there so short twenty four hours.

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Out of all the current couples, do you think anyone

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>is faking a physical connection? If yes, who, I don't

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 1>know what do you think, Well, I think since they

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 1>had added money to the game, quite possibly. I think

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 1>only half of a couple might be Come on, spit out,

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>give me names or drink Jeremy Well, Jeremy said, I

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:51.959
<v Speaker 1>think Brian and Jeremy are both after the money I did.

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>But are they faking a physical connection? I think Brian maybe, Yeah,

0:30:58.400 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't.

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 2>You're not your boat?

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>No, I guess what is that?

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Truth? What about? What about drink? What? Any? Do you

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 2>think any Goldens are faking it? I mean, remember, I'm

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 2>not faking it because Keith and I have said from

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 2>the beginning, is anybody faking any of the Goldens faking it?

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't think any of the Goldens are really.

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Faith was making it a lot. I don't know. I

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>don't mind.

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 2>That's the next one here. If you could bring one

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 2>more bonus person to the beach to shake things up

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 2>that has not been on the season, who would you bring?

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Hmmm?

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh, how about.

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Jordan's Jordans?

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 2>You mean for the Goldens?

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Why do you say that?

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Because I think he was a hot commodity and I

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>think Leslie would dump Gary.

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what I'm going to bring to that

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 2>let's let's see what we really think here.

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>How about you?

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, I didn't think about the Goldens because so many

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 2>of them, you know, that's all. I also think they

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 2>should bring c K back. By the way, I think

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 2>he had two short a time on the beach, just

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 2>saying yeah, he's a bad one. I don't know one

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 2>bonus person. I think any of the young ones would

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 2>have been fun to stir things up. So really, any

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 2>any any of the young ones that got close? Oh

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 2>I know, ready, yeah, Maria from Joey's season, she would

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 2>have been great. I would want to spend.

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Everyone that hit the beach this summer. Who do you

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>think came for the wrong reasons?

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.479
<v Speaker 2>Well, clearly Jeremy and Brian, because they're in it just

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 2>for the money. I mean the minute that money was

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 2>mentioned and they were in it. I don't think I

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 2>think all of the Goldens, including myself, came for the

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 2>right reasons. We were all hoping to find love. But

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 2>I think based on what we're seeing on the TV, Jeremy.

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Looked like they're ready to fall in love. I mean,

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>they're just in it to win it. And like I said,

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>since they added the money, it's a whole new ball game.

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you do you think do you think Gary came

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 2>for love?

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I would wanted to think that, yes, but now after

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I've seen him play with all these women, I'm not

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 1>so sure. Yeah, I don't know.

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, who do you think had the worst luck in Paradise?

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you how about me.

0:33:56.520 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>You will just find Kathys luck. Who are still in

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>a relationship that I don't think are going to make it?

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well that's that. Get like who Jeremy and Bailey.

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you married? About Cat and Dale?

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Cat and Dale? Yeah? I like them too. I don't know.

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.720
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you who I feel like had the worst

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 2>luck was Jill and Leah. Everybody put them in the

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:29.760
<v Speaker 2>friend zone. Jonathan had the chance to have a relationship

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 2>with him and he kept, you know, not finding the one.

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 2>But Jill when she left saying I'm so tired of

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 2>being in the friend zone, my heart went out.

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>To her for her to what was the most shocking

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:42.320
<v Speaker 1>moment thus.

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Far, Oh that's easy, go ahead, when Jeremy said I

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 2>don't care about those golden send them home. Jeremy, I'm

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 2>coming for you, buddy. I know where you live, and

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I am coming for you.

0:34:56.760 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>What did you think was a shocking moment? Actually, I'm

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 1>not shocked. But when April smelled the underwear, Oh god, oh.

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 2>I forgot that. Wait, April, what were you thinking? Not

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 2>only did you sniff his underwear, you stuck it in

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:16.320
<v Speaker 2>your bra. Come on, April, Goldens have more class than that.

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Good god, I'd forgotten that.

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. So, Kathy, who do you think has

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 1>displayed the biggest red flag thus far in this season?

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, I hate to keep picking on Brian and Jeremy,

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to keep picking on him because I

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 2>think I just I feel like they're not there. Jeremy,

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 2>when you say you're there for money, but you but

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 2>you look like you're there for love, that's a problem.

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:51.439
<v Speaker 2>I think. I think Kat and Dale I saw I'm

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 2>definitely looking for love. I think Alicia Alicia, I love her.

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 2>But it's a little bit of a red flag to me.

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 2>When you say I really want Dale, I want Dale,

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 2>and then he doesn't choose you, and then you say

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with losing Dale, I also cannot. I mean,

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 2>I got a lot of red flags waving around here,

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 2>don't I What about what about Jeremy saying that red

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:27.240
<v Speaker 2>flag man. That is ten red flags and Crimson waving.

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 2>When he says he wished Susie came back, you would

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 2>have gotten on one knee and proposed to her, Bailey,

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 2>that is a red flag. Yes.

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you think any of the couples are settling? What

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>do you think just to be together to stay on

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 1>the show?

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes? What do you think?

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I do who I do? And I once again, I

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:51.720
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a mutual thing. I think it's only

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:58.760
<v Speaker 1>half because I feel like Jeremy is there to play

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the game. I don't feel like after this is all over,

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I think Bally's going to be crushed. But I don't

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:09.279
<v Speaker 1>know anybody else. Kat and Dale, I don't know that

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I trust it, although I do like them together.

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Dale and Kat, Yeah, I like them together too. I

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 2>think Kat's got a little bit of you know, so far,

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:24.240
<v Speaker 2>she seems like she's struggling to trust it and open

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 2>up right she doesn't. I think if she can get

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 2>past that, maybe YE do have a chance. I'm trying

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:34.240
<v Speaker 2>to think cool. Do you think Getting the Goldens are selling?

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:39.799
<v Speaker 1>Well? You couldn't really say settling now because you and

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Teith it's not a love romance. It's a friendship, so

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't even count.

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 2>What do you think about Leslie and Gary?

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Leslie and Gary? I think Leslie would be in it

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>to win it, I really do, and no, no, no,

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship. I think she would definitely want to

0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>develop a relationship with him, although I don't think is

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:02.879
<v Speaker 1>really true. I don't.

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 2>What do you think about Kim and Faith.

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I think Kim's going to be crushed because Faith is

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>in it right now that I see, especially after the

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>other night's episode, because they talked about things that were

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>really important and they felt each other. I'll never forget

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>when Nancy when they who was it that shared with

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Nancy about the death of his wife and how upset

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:31.720
<v Speaker 1>she became. She really paid attention.

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember.

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:36.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who she was talking with.

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 2>It was really and oh do you mean wait, are

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<v Speaker 2>you talking about Kim? Kim lost Kim? Okay, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy was talking to Kim. But here's the thing. Is

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<v Speaker 2>Kim settling or is Faith settling? Because remember Kim wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a poem for Leslie and that didn't work out so

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<v Speaker 2>well and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he was fine love and if this one, don't worry,

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<v Speaker 1>So that settling.

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<v Speaker 2>Just settling for anyone who will take you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, not only to me, means they're together and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't really what they wanted, but they'll settle for this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not or or does it mean that nobody wants

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<v Speaker 2>me and I'll take anybody you want?

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<v Speaker 1>It could whatever, tells Kim. When Jeremy said he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like the Goldens being in Paradise, mine literally dropped.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, your mouth. I spent a lot of time with him.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you I had to rewind the TV, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care if the Goldens go home. I don't,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't. I don't like them. Bean here,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care like Jeremy. Let me just tell you something.

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<v Speaker 2>When you open your mouth and say things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of us Goldens who are not happy.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not one to tell you the truth because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the outside looking in. Okay, when the show started,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, And when the gold arrived,

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<v Speaker 1>it changed that. It brought life to the show. It

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<v Speaker 1>was exciting meeting and seeing everybody like yeah, so shut.

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<v Speaker 2>Your mouth, yeah, Jeremy, thank you. I mean you heard

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<v Speaker 2>it from Susan and everything that comes out of Susan's mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's worth listening to.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello Jeremy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Susan, listening to Jeremy shut into your mouth, tell

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<v Speaker 2>him zip at Jeremy, you have it. I told you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, that was so much fun. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to all our listeners for joining us today, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Be sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour because we do

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<v Speaker 2>want to miss it. This would be ripped on Jeremy

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<v Speaker 2>and Brian next week who knows? Who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a great guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm