1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: It's an me ft breaking news. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: Scottie Brown along with Kevin Pillar and then JJ Cooper 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: joining us soon from Baseball America. 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: On the prospect side, well, KP. 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: The title of this live show and video is the 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: Rich Get Richer, and they do. The Los Angeles Dodgers badly, 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: badly needed a little bit more to get over the hump. 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: I'm being sarcastic. They pick up Trek Skouble. So what 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: do you think about this one? On the major league side, 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: and then we'll get to the ramifications around major League Baseball. 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I initially I'm thinking about the ramifications 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: all these other teams that felt like they had an 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 3: opportunity to get them. And sure enough, the Dodgers are 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: the team that is willing to part way with some 15 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: of their prospects in order to get them. And you know, 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 3: the headline, the Ridge get Richer. The Dodgers do what 17 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: the Dodgers always do, and they seem to figure out 18 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: a way to go get the best player available on 19 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: the trade market. You know, they obviously have the ability 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: to go out in the offseason and get the best 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: free agent available too, because they're willing to spend money. 22 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: But you know, I have an interesting take on this, 23 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: and I know, Scott, we were just talking. You have 24 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: a little bit of an interesting take on this too. 25 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: But the Dodgers just seem to do everything a little 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: bit better than everyone else. You know. Obviously, they're a 27 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: team that has the best rhetoric on baseball. They're back 28 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: to back World Series champs, They're the by far the 29 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: favorite to win a third consecutive. They go out and 30 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 3: get the best player on the trade market, back to 31 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 3: back Cy Young Award winner TEK School. But this speaks 32 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: a lot about what the Dodgers do behind closed doors. 33 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 3: They have the best ability to have prospects that they're 34 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: willing to part ways with because they know that they 35 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 3: can draft and develop better than everyone else, and that 36 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: these guys potentially have the ability to be impact players 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: for the Detroit Tigers in the near future. But they'll 38 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: just keep replenishing. And I'm very interested too, because I 39 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: can't sit here and say that I'm an expert in 40 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: terms of prospects, and I could see the rankings, but 41 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: in terms of the talent that projectability. So I'm excited 42 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: to hear what JJ has to say on it. But 43 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: I am a little bit disappointed in a couple of 44 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: teams across the league that I felt like had an 45 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: opportunity to go out and get a guy like Trek Scooble, 46 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: the Milwaukee Brewers being one of them. I mean, you 47 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: have a once in a generation talent in the Myths, 48 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: and parrying a guy like Trek's Schooble with him would 49 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: have been so exciting for baseball. It'd have been so 50 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 3: exciting for Milwaukee Brewers fans, and I think it would 51 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: have really kind of changed the balance in baseball potentially. 52 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: I know, the Dodgers probably still would have been the 53 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: favorite to win the World Series, but adding a guy 54 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: like Trek Scooble to a rotation with the miz would 55 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: have dramatically changed that. I think about a team like 56 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: the Atlanta Braves. You've got a future Hall of Famer 57 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: and Chris Sale, a team that's desperately needing another guy 58 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: to go along side with Chris Sale. I think they 59 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: missed an opportunity to go out there. The Tampa bay Rays. 60 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: You know a team that every year is kind of undervalued, 61 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: underappreciate it, and they have an opportunity. You know, once again, 62 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: you know a team that's in first place in the division. 63 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: It would have been great to see them kind of 64 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: throw in a couple prospects, you know, go all in 65 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: and try to win a World Series because they have 66 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: a team to do it this year. 67 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: Yea. 68 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: And going with the Brewers, for example, a team that 69 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: I think some were hoping to see finally push them 70 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: Chips in last year, they did just about nothing at 71 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: the trade deadline despite winning. I think it was ninety 72 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: seven games, most in baseball, and it clearly showed when 73 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: you got deeper into the postseason. And some teams are 74 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 2: dealing with weaker farm systems. The Brewers have I think 75 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: pretty consensus a top three farm systems. So you're looking 76 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: around like this is fishy. What's going on? The Dodgers 77 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: give up. According to Baseball America, their number six, number nine, 78 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: and number twenty seven prospects. Two of these guys were 79 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: eleventh round picks. The other was a ninety fifth overall 80 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: pick in the third round. Right, these are the Blue Chippers. 81 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: Zeyer Hope could be a very good player. He's definitely 82 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: like a high risk, high reward type. But the Brewers 83 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: easily easily could have beaten this package and still had 84 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: plenty of room despair. None of these three players in 85 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: the Dodgers system really had a pathway to immediate playing time. 86 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: You can make a case for the pitching injuries and 87 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: guys like River Ryan and Brady Smith eventually emerging there. 88 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: But let's go to the Dodgers side for a moment, 89 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 2: KP and how dominant they've been given that the rest 90 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 2: of the league is eerily chilling right now during these moments, 91 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 2: Yamamoto Scooble Otani if he's feeling good on the mound, 92 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 2: Oh wait, Glass, now Snell, that's what your five could 93 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: look like in October. And then there's depth on top 94 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: of that, Roki Sazaki, who you would think will be 95 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: in the bullpen like he was last year in October 96 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: for the Dodgers. Justin Robleski is an All Star this year. 97 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: It doesn't really have a spot if the other five 98 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: are healthy. When I say doesn't have a spot, doesn't 99 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: have a starting spot on a playoff rotation. Same with 100 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: em She, same with Eric Lauer. This is stupid depth 101 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: right now, and KP. I mean Snell and Glass now 102 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: missed most of the year, or Tani's not pitching at 103 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: the moment. It gives them some very nice insurance options too. 104 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: It's crazy because we're talking about an All star, you know, 105 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 3: not having a place in a rotation. He's kind of 106 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: been a little bit of their unsung hero this year 107 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: with all the injuries, Blake Snell being out and Tyler 108 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: Glassnell being now. But in addition to that, with those 109 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: guys not pitching at all this year, they're getting the 110 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: freshest version of Tyler Glassnow and Blake Snow when they 111 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 3: eventually do return to this rotation. The thing I find 112 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: amazing though, is how the Dodgers are able to, you know, 113 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 3: acquire a guy like Trek Scuble, but not really subtract 114 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: from their major league roster. You know, you would have 115 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 3: thought at the very least, you know, and Emmett Sheehan 116 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 3: would have been going back in return and kind of 117 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 3: really filed that, you know, spot in the rotation for 118 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: the Detroit Tigers, not only for this year, but you know, 119 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: for many years to come. It it is, it's a 120 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: bit amazing, how you know it. I don't know if 121 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: it speaks so much about the uncertainty of the future 122 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 3: next year and if there's gonna be a lockout, and 123 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: how teams are kind of valuing, you know, a rental 124 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: and what they kind of want in return. But it's 125 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: very interesting that the Tigers couldn't get more or at 126 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 3: least getting a major league talent, a major league ready 127 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:30,119 Speaker 3: talent like Emtt Sheehan, you know, or Roki Sasaki someone 128 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: along those lines. Yeah, I mean, I know you kind 129 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: of have your thoughts and your theories on it too, 130 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: And like I said, I'm a bit interested to hear, 131 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: you know, what JJ has to say in terms of, 132 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: you know, what potentially were some of the other you know, 133 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: you know, alleged packages out there from other teams, What 134 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: were the Dodgers not willing to get rid of, what 135 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: were the Brewers not willing to get rid of? And 136 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: then you know, there was also another trade yesterday and 137 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 3: to me not really knowing like the prospects, you know, 138 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 3: did the Mariners potentially get more a better return for 139 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: a guy like Luis Castillo? You know, these are things 140 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: that you know, me not knowing the farm systems as well, 141 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: someone like JJ, I'm very interested to hear. 142 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they did get one big prospect in that one, 143 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: which we'll talk to JJ about too, But just to 144 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: play off what you're saying, we'll bring in JJ in 145 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: one minute. Logan Henderson is a guy who could slot 146 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: pretty much right away into a rotation for the Tigers 147 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: and make an impact. You wonder if he was dangled 148 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: by the Brewers or if they were kind of trying 149 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 2: to give up lower end prospects on their end. Also 150 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: considering that for Milwaukee, guys seven, eight, nine, ten, example 151 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: in their system are two, three, four, five and many 152 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: other systems. Again, we'll talk to JJ about that. So 153 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: I'll just I'll finish with my theory for now. 154 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: KP. This one is weird. 155 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: You had heard basically the whole way through that the 156 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: Dodgers were the favorite, even though the Dodgers were downplaying it, 157 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: and you were like, all right, if the Dodgers end 158 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: up with him, they're giving their top I don't know, 159 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: two out of five prospects something like that, and the 160 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: rest of the league just can't keep up, which is 161 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: its own issue because the top team that always picks 162 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: towards the end of the draft is still fleecing people 163 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: in trades. Zire Hope was a trade River Ryan was 164 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: a trade for Brett Batty. Am I saying that not 165 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: Brett Baty Michael Batty. Who's the Baty from the Padres 166 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, Michael whatever, one of the Baties in 167 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two is a River Ryan acquisition for them 168 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: that helps to make this trade KP For me, it's 169 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: weird how some teams have sit on the sidelines for 170 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: a big player like this. 171 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: It's weird. 172 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: It's eerie heading into a lockout year, and it feels 173 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: a little bit to me like, let the Dodgers get 174 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: this guy, Let the Dodgers win. It's just this is 175 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: not a money situation when it comes to a trade acquisition. 176 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: Trek School is not cheap, but any team can very 177 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: easily take him on and prof off Trek Schoobles selling 178 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: out a stadium for the next couple months and then beyond. 179 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: Here's a tweet from Travis Sauchik, who rights for MLB. 180 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: The Brewers are elite operators. They are incredibly rational. But 181 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: I am among those that argue this was a time 182 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: to be irrational. Flipping from Schooble mis top of your rotation, 183 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: you're most likely NLCS opponent throwing School two times at 184 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: you in a series is about as consequential a trade 185 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: deadline decision that exists. I'm totally with you, Travison. Again, 186 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: That's why I think this is weird. I really do. 187 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: I think some of the say, smaller market owners that 188 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: have to top end teams this year, who can keep 189 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: up with the Dodgers in a trade, they have the 190 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: prospects to make a trade them holding back at this 191 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: time seems weird. This is a rental, right, like you said, KP. 192 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: Even if you don't think next year is going to happen, 193 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: that's okay. This is only a two month guy, plus 194 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: the playoffs. Let's bring in JJ Cooper from Baseball America right. 195 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: Now, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. 196 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: It's data dish presented by rap Sodo. All right, JJ, 197 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: let's get into this. Do you think it was weird 198 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: how their return looked or were you like yep? That 199 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: makes sense and nobody in the league could have touched this. No, okay, 200 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: the first part it makes sense. The second part, I 201 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: think absolutely other teams could have touched this. So when 202 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: you look at the parameters of this deal. I did 203 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: a piece last week where I studied seven times in 204 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 2: the twenty first century where a team traded what I 205 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: would describe as an absolute ace, like someone who Cy 206 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: Young winner or recently had been very high in cy 207 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: Young voting last year. Of a deal like the David 208 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: Price trade in twenty fifteen, like the Johnny Quato which 209 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: maybe is slightly less, but a Johnny Cuato trade to 210 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 2: the Royals, and you know the Max Scherzer trade in 211 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. 212 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: You know, trades like that. And there is a strange 213 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 4: consistency to this. If you look at all of these trades, 214 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 4: I found seven of them, and what you end up 215 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 4: seeing is is it's a top twenty five to seventy 216 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 4: five prospect generally that goes in the deal. That's the headliner. 217 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 4: And then there's another guy usually who's kind of fringe 218 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 4: of the top hundred, maybe not a top hundred prospect, 219 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 4: usually not a top hundred prospect that would be because 220 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 4: of the here hope for our rankings would be the headliner. 221 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 4: River Ryan would be that next guy right who's not 222 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 4: far off the top hundred. If you want to make 223 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 4: a case from on the back of the hundred, I 224 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 4: get it. We can get into the other reasons where 225 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 4: we would not have him in the hundred. You know, 226 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: the injury, issy issues, the soon to turn twenty eight, 227 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: all that, and then it usually is one or two 228 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 4: guys kind of from much further back on a team 229 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: top thirty. That's what Brady Smith is here and Brady 230 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: Smith again in a dinner system. Brady Smith could absolutely 231 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 4: be a top fifteen, top twenty prospect. He's an intriguing 232 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 4: prep pitcher who also has an injury history but having 233 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 4: a very good Year's got a good fastball, good changeup, 234 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: So that's not an unusual deal for an ace like this. 235 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: To go back to what you were saying on the 236 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 4: second part, though, and go about what you guys were 237 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 4: talking about before this, I do think I do wonder 238 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 4: if the Brewers or you know, especially the Brewers are 239 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: going to rue the day of why didn't we end 240 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 4: up going a little bit beyond those parameters? And I 241 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 4: think the Brewers could potentially have done it in a 242 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 4: couple of creative ways if the Tigers were willing. Again 243 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 4: that's always a question, but if they were where it's like, okay, 244 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 4: look it may not match up to be the exact 245 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 4: same deals what you're the Dodgers are offering, but we 246 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 4: think that this is more would you be interested. And 247 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: that's where I just think the idea of having Miserowski 248 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 4: and Schooble facing the Dodgers in a best of seven series, 249 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: the opportunity for that, the possibilities of that really go 250 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 4: for it to me. Kind of do say, maybe you 251 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 4: want to go a little bit outside of your normal 252 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: comfort zone of what you're willing. 253 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: To do in a trade, And do you find it 254 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: interesting that the Dodgers didn't give any major league ready 255 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: talent back considering kind of the depth of the rotation 256 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: and was there any kind of untouchables in the Dodgers organization. 257 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: I'm sure the Tigers had asked for. 258 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, to frame it that way, like, let's talk 259 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 4: about the untouchables. The Dodgers gave up their third best 260 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 4: outfielder on their Double A Tulsa team. Now, I don't 261 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 4: mean their third best outfield prospect. I mean if you 262 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 4: look at Tulsa and you say, okay, hose Way to Paula, 263 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 4: that's probably an untouchable. That's a top ten prospect in baseball. 264 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 4: And I would say the guy who's probably going to 265 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 4: be Taoscar Hernandez replace me. He's not a great defender, 266 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 4: but the guy can really hit young. And then we 267 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 4: got Mike Saroda again, another guy that they picked up 268 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 4: in a trade Jake got from the Reds a couple 269 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 4: of years ago. But Mike Sroda, who's had the historic 270 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 4: on Bay Street this year, is a more athletic, more 271 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 4: dynamic a center fielder as opposed to these other guys 272 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 4: were corners. And then the here Hope was the third 273 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 4: outfield prospect on the team now, so here Hope has 274 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 4: a very good chance to be a big league regular, 275 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 4: be a solid big league regular in the corner outfield spot, 276 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 4: but on that team. And then you say, okay, well 277 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 4: what ou outfield prospects? I would say that Eduardo Cantaro, 278 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 4: who's at level below these guys, is also a better 279 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: outfield prospect than Hope. We have Hope fifty five on 280 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 4: our top hundred. The Dodgers have an absurd number of 281 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 4: outfield prospects. To the second point though, that you're saying, 282 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 4: I also do think that I am a little surprised, 283 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 4: Like if you want proximity, I know a lot of 284 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 4: people are talking about she and I don't know if 285 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 4: MG Sheen's actually would have been the right fit here. 286 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 4: If I'm the Tigers because I met Sheian's a lot 287 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 4: closer to he'll be arbitration eligible next year. You've got 288 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 4: years of control there, but he's not having a great 289 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 4: year this year, and you're you're kind of looking at Okay, 290 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 4: you've got a window there, but your windows for him 291 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 4: is going to be twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine, 292 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 4: you know, and then you get into the twenty thirty, 293 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: it's like cook, he's going to be getting expensive and 294 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 4: then he's going to be hitting free agency. I'm not 295 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: saying that if you said, okay, is amit Sheian better 296 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 4: than justin Roboleeski? Maybe, but I would say, if I 297 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 4: want proximity, I would have probably been very intrigued by 298 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 4: Roboleski because he's a leftee who's less, you know, much 299 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: further away from free agency, further away from arbitration, and 300 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 4: is having a better year this year. Now you could say, 301 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 4: maybe it's not as sustainable. We think Sheen is going 302 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 4: to be a little bit better long term all that 303 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 4: I can buy, but those are in the same range 304 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 4: and robo Esqui is going to be cheaper and you're 305 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: going to have him for longer. But then if you say, okay, 306 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 4: but let's go down the prospect side. If I'm the Dodgers, 307 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 4: I'm happy to give up River Ryan as opposed to 308 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 4: Christians as a waita, because in Zaswita's case, I would 309 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: say that, you know, in Zaswita's case, I would say 310 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 4: that you're getting the similar type of upside, but someone 311 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 4: who's much younger, it's a little bit further away. But 312 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 4: in River Ryan's case, you're talking about guy and we 313 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 4: can talk about more. It's like, my concernive River Ryan 314 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: is this guy, and I always a two way player. 315 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 4: In college he was, he was an infielder who also 316 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: pitched out the pen. But he's been pitching since twenty 317 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 4: seventeen in college baseball and pro baseball. And he's thrown 318 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 4: sixty innings in a season once in his career, and 319 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 4: that's twenty seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one. You know, 320 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: just keep going up the list, and he's done it once, 321 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 4: and yes, there are injury issues there, but on top 322 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 4: of that, so you're talking about a guy who's going 323 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: to be a rookie, you know, going to be twenty 324 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 4: eight before he throws his first pitch, for the Tigers, 325 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: and next year, even if you put him in your rotation, 326 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 4: you're not going to feel comfortable saying he can go 327 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: out and give me one hundred and you know, fifty 328 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy innings because he's never done that 329 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: in his life life and he threw He's at thirty 330 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 4: six innings this year, he's at basically no innings last year, 331 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 4: no innings the year before that. You know, it is 332 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 4: a you've got a stretch here of time where you're 333 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 4: gonna have to kind of ramp him up even if 334 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 4: he's ready to go. Teams don't normally like to say, Okay, 335 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: this guy has not has thrown one hundred innings once 336 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 4: of his life, but we feel comfortable that we can 337 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 4: just throw him out there for one hundred and fifty 338 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: each of the next four years. 339 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: Can you compare kind of the return for Scooble to 340 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: what you had just saw with Luis Castillo? And in 341 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: some ways do you think that the Mariner's got a 342 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: better return now? 343 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: I would say this is a much better We're we're 344 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 4: gonna roll out our ranking the traded prospects today and 345 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 4: this is our number one and our number two prospect traded, 346 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 4: then Brady Smith will be in that kind of next tier, 347 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 4: but not too far down it What the Mariners got 348 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 4: back for one they only got one prospect, is we evaluate, right, 349 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 4: So they got they did get they got big leaguers, 350 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: but you know they got a Saranthey do Mingez. You know, 351 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 4: we all know kind of know what Sir Anthony Dimingus is. 352 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 4: And I think some of that is salary relief. Right 353 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 4: He's on a two year, twenty million dollar deal, so 354 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 4: by sending him back, you kind of clear some salary 355 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 4: in this. And at this point Nolan Jones, I think 356 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 4: again that's just not really that's kind of almost a 357 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 4: window dressing part of this. Like Nolan Jones has had 358 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 4: not trying to knock him, but he said one good 359 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: year in the big leagues and that's now far enough 360 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 4: from move. That's several years ago down with the Rockies 361 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 4: traded to the Cleveland. It didn't hit for Cleveland, dropped 362 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 4: off the forty man. That's how he was kind of 363 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 4: moved into to the White Sox. And now I don't 364 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 4: expect him to be kind of a part of the 365 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 4: Mariner's plans over the rest of the season either. So 366 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 4: really you're talking about one prospect, which is the catcher 367 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 4: Boston Smith, who's intriguing. Now, that's a senior signed six 368 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 4: rounder from a couple of years ago, already been moved 369 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 4: twice because he was a Gnat who was then moved 370 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 4: in the Curtis Mead trade, who then the Nats turned 371 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 4: Curtis Mead into kind of lee early but goes to 372 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 4: the White Sox. Has had a real good year, has 373 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: had a dominant year, and had a dominant year by 374 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 4: the way, he was a second team All American for 375 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 4: US at right State in that senior season when he 376 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 4: was a six round pick. So this guy has a 377 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 4: track record Hitting's a really direct left handed stroke, you know, 378 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 4: left handed swing, and knows what he wants to do. 379 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 4: There's real pull power there. It's not like he's junior 380 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 4: Camanaro can hit the ball out to all you know, 381 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 4: all fields or anything. But if he gets a pitch, 382 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 4: especially up and end, he knows how to yank it 383 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 4: over the fence. There's real power there. And as a 384 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 4: defender he has a chance like he does gotten better 385 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 4: and better as a throat, you know, was his throwing. 386 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 4: There's a quick exchange he's relatively accurate, so that part's good, 387 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 4: and I would say he's a pretty good framer. The 388 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 4: part that is this giant, kind of big question mark 389 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 4: is he also, though, just takes pitches that are sometimes 390 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 4: borderlined with runners on and they clank off his glove 391 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 4: and they go to the backstop and you're like, okay, 392 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 4: you've gotta you obviously have to cut that out. You can. 393 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 4: It's one thing he's not great at blocking. But if 394 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 4: a pitcher throws out, you know, a fifty five footer 395 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 4: that ends up ten feet, you're right, Okay, if a 396 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 4: pitcher throws a pitch that's just on the edge of 397 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 4: the strike zone, you can't be failing to catch that. 398 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 4: You have to catch it before you worry about framing it. 399 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 4: Those kind of aspects are things where it could work 400 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 4: for him, but there's still some risk. I think he's 401 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 4: more of that. Is he in that same second tier 402 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 4: of prospects behind the river Ryans, behind obviously the zero 403 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 4: the hero Opes? 404 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 3: All right, I got one final question for you now 405 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 3: that Trek Scoop was off the board. And sometimes you 406 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: may get a little bit of a discount if you're 407 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: the team that jumps out early. Is this kind of 408 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: the has the market been set for starting pitching or 409 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: do you feel like some teams are going to get 410 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: desperate and will kind of, you know, maybe go beyond 411 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 3: that prospect package to maybe get a Kevin Gosman or 412 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 3: a Shane Bieber, whoever these other kind of free agent 413 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: picture rentals are going to be. 414 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 4: I would say this has to set the market because 415 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 4: if you end up paying more for Kevin Gossman, if 416 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 4: you end up paying more for Casey Miz let's just 417 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 4: take another example from the Tigers, then you would for 418 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 4: Trek's Google. Then rightfully everyone should ask, well, what the 419 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 4: hell are you doing? Because you know, if you're willing 420 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 4: to go that like, oh that pitcher's off the board, 421 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 4: we got to get someone else, then you should have 422 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 4: been doing at the start, because like when we talk 423 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 4: about these potential what the Brewers could have done here, 424 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 4: what the Rays could have done? Like I don't think 425 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: it's a perfect matchup, Like, but if the Brewers, if 426 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 4: I'm the Brewers in this trade and you say, okay, 427 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 4: look I don't want to trade Logan Henderson part of this. 428 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: I get that Logan Henderson is a very good starter 429 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 4: for me. Right now, and I'm expecting him to pitch 430 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 4: in our rotation in the postseason, so I don't want 431 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 4: to give him back. Well, what I'm doing to kind 432 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 4: of what you know, what y'all were talking about before 433 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 4: I came on. I'm saying, look, could I offer you 434 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 4: quantity to outweigh if you really like River Ryan, I 435 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: can give you a Bishop Letson, I can give you 436 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 4: some arms that. Maybe I can give you a Brandon 437 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 4: Sprote right like again, I can give you arms that 438 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 4: maybe our next maybe you like as much as Ryan, 439 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 4: maybe he's a you're under Okay, But what about if 440 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 4: I said, instead of I'm going to give you as 441 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 4: a here Hope type, I can give you Louise Paygnell 442 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 4: or someone like that that you're going to consider equivalent. 443 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 4: But what about if I can then give you a 444 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 4: Josiah Ragsdale or an Andrew Fisher or a Blake Burke 445 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 4: or a josh Adamcheski or we've got five guys in 446 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 4: the DSL who are all really alluring. I can give 447 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 4: you one of those in this deal, and so like, 448 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 4: instead of it being you get these three guys, I'll 449 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 4: give you five. Now, I'm not going to tell you 450 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 4: that the number two maybe that your number two prospect 451 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 4: you're getting back here is a little bit lower than 452 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 4: what you're talking about miss Dodgers deal. But there is 453 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 4: kind of also the law of numbers here, which is, 454 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 4: if I get five of these guys, I'm going to 455 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 4: have more chance that something blossoms out of this than 456 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 4: if I get three. That's where I think that the Brewers, 457 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 4: with their depth of their farm system and all, could 458 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 4: have gotten kind of creative on this and maybe been 459 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 4: able to fashion a deal that works for them and 460 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 4: maybe works for the Tigers. 461 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: So my last question, JJ, does it feel weird at 462 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: all this whole situation? And I ask this because it's 463 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 2: not like the industry is valuing trek Scouble too differently. Right, 464 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 2: Sometimes we look at a player in a trade or 465 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: signing and you're like, Eh, maybe the industry doesn't love him. 466 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 2: The industry loves trek School, There's no doubt about that. 467 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three, the Texas Rangers pick up Jordan Montgomery. 468 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: The Diamondbacks are one of those teams that bid for him. 469 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: He ends up being one of the difference makers in 470 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: the Rangers winning a World Series. That is the point 471 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 2: of us doing all of this right, So to me, 472 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: it's a little bit confusing. I know we're picking on 473 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: the Brewers, and I definitely think it's weird there. Do 474 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: you think it's weird that any other teams weren't more involved. 475 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: I know we don't know what the prospect offers were yet, 476 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 2: but you can speak to this. Almost any team could 477 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: have kept up with the Dodgers. Would they have had 478 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: to make it hurt a little bit more based on 479 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 2: maybe not having as much depth in their farm system. Yes, 480 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: But the other three, four or five teams that we 481 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 2: thought could have been in the mix for him could 482 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 2: have come up with the package to do this. 483 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: Do you agree or disagree? 484 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 2: Even if it's not like, hey, let me go down 485 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: the line of this player matching this player could have been. Hey, 486 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I know the Rays have THEO Gillan and 487 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: that's a higher rated prospect than all of these guys. 488 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: Cam Kimminiddi for the Braves. Get into what this could 489 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: have looked like for other teams, because some people are like, oh, 490 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: other teams couldn't do this. 491 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, they could. 492 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 4: If you would. I did a piece at Baseball America 493 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 4: on I think it was Thursday also for this, where 494 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 4: I looked at six or seven teams potential packages for 495 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 4: you know, for Scooble, and I would say I said 496 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 4: in it like I laid it out like I'm expecting 497 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 4: a bidding war at that time, and so I went 498 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 4: kind of that what we said before. The parameters we 499 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 4: normally see is one twenty five to seventy five prospect, 500 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 4: one fringe of the top hundred, top ten prospect, and 501 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 4: another top thirty or maybe two. I went little higher 502 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 4: than that, and I could come to like six or 503 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 4: seven teams that had no problem reaching that. Like if 504 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 4: you say the Cubs, if the Cubs are willing to 505 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 4: trade Josiah Ragsdale in this deal, who's a very intriguing hitter, 506 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 4: you know, outfield corner, outfield prospect. He's I think every 507 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 4: bit as interesting as the here Hope. Yes, that could 508 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 4: be the cornerstone, and I could absolutely get you to 509 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 4: a Cubs deal. If the Braves, I don't know if 510 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 4: Eric Cartman would be available. If Eric Cartman's available, I'd 511 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 4: say he's better as a prospect for this then see 512 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 4: here Hope. That's another outfield prospect, true center fielder, dynamic, 513 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 4: you know, power speed guy, little risk ear because it's 514 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 4: a little further away, but not by much. Hia versus 515 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 4: double a younger all that. Okay, that's the corner him 516 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 4: and Ken Cam and Eddie we're talking about. Absolutely you 517 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 4: can outdo what the what the Dodgers offered. We talked 518 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 4: about the Brewers. I think the Rays there even without 519 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 4: THEO Gillen, because you could say, hey, we'll give you 520 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 4: Brody Hopkins and we can give you a catcher between 521 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 4: Ken Bodon and Nathan Fluelling. We can give you you know, 522 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 4: Tatan Gray is a very intriguing power prospect or Cooper 523 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 4: Fleming and or like all these teams if they wanted to. Again, 524 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 4: it depends on what the Tigers want. But I could 525 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 4: say that all of these teams, even without talking touching 526 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 4: into that the THEO Gillans of the world, these teams, 527 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: even without getting for the Brewers into the Jesus Mideis 528 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 4: of the world, they could get to a deal that 529 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 4: is at least as good, if not better than the Dodgers. 530 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 4: But to go back to your first point on this too, 531 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 4: I think the other part of this is the Dodgers 532 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 4: have this colid you know, Goliath here, this is this 533 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 4: monolith that basically they know they could make this trade, 534 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,239 Speaker 4: and because of the way they do things and the 535 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 4: resources they have, they don't have any worry that this trade. 536 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 4: There's no scenario whereas the here Hope and River Ryan 537 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 4: and Brady Smith them going away is in any way 538 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 4: going to derail what the Dodgers are able to do 539 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 4: for twenty seven, twenty twenty nine, thirty. If you said 540 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 4: that Trek Scugle for some you know whatever reason, was 541 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 4: unable to pitch for the Dodgers the rest of the season, 542 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 4: if they just basically by acquiring him, just took him 543 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 4: off the board for anyone else, that would still be like, 544 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 4: the Dodgers are fine going forward because we just said 545 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 4: they are still have more outfielders in Double A and 546 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 4: beyond then we can possibly fit into their big league 547 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 4: lineup over the next couple of years. Where this gets 548 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 4: tougher for the other teams I think is the other teams, 549 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 4: the Brewers and Rays of being prime examples of this. 550 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 4: The Brewers, to their credit, just keep rolling along right 551 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 4: like they have been a playoff contender now long enough 552 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 4: that the guys who were kind of the surprise developments 553 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 4: that were key to the kind of getting them into contention. 554 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 4: The Freddie Peraltas, the Brandon Woodruffs, you know, the Devin Williams, 555 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 4: all those guys, the Josh haters like they've been they're 556 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: either gone or in Woodrof's case, they're hurt and they're 557 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 4: still there. And why is that? Just because they're kind 558 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 4: of one of those teams operating in the We never 559 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 4: shove all in for this year. We always keep us competitive. 560 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: We can be really good this year, and we can 561 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 4: do it again next year. And it is true that 562 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 4: a team like the Brewers is going to take the 563 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 4: hit if they make a schoobl trade and it doesn't 564 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 4: work out. As far as Schooble, the players they're giving 565 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 4: up are going to take much more. Uh, it's going 566 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 4: to hurt them much more over the next few years, 567 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 4: even with all the prospect that they have. That it 568 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 4: would the Dodgers, because they're obviously they're not going out 569 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 4: there and saying, oh, is Kyle Tucker on the market, Great, 570 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 4: we'll sign him. Oh, you know, is We'll just get 571 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 4: the best free agent every year. They can't do that, 572 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 4: so they're there. They look at it. I think as 573 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 4: their opportunities are smaller. 574 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, but at some point you got 575 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: to push in. You're you're giving the practical answer. The 576 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: fan response right now is like if not now when. 577 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: So it's just like not disagree with that. 578 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're looking at a time period here where if 579 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: we see the Brewers get dusted by the Dodgers and 580 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: it's Schooble beating them in one or two of the games, 581 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 2: they're going to be like, what are we doing here? 582 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: Like what is the point of actually owning a team 583 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 2: and doing all of this? But hey, good for the Dodgers. 584 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 2: They keep capitalizing. They've done an awesome job building up prospects. 585 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: JJ. Thanks so much for the time, appreciate it. 586 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you this week and I've actually talked 587 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: to you Tomorro on the Trade Deadline Show at some point. 588 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: Go check out baseball for all of the info on 589 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 2: the prospect returns coming through on all of these trades 590 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: over the weekend and going forward. And also this segment 591 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: was presented by rap Sodo. 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They could be 601 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: just two games out of the wild card with a 602 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: win tomorrow. 603 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: This was yesterday. 604 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: They're two and a half hour right now, by the 605 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: way KP and he mentioned how a playoff rotation of 606 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: Tag Scoople Caseymi is having a good season, Troy, Who's 607 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: I think, one of the top young pitchers in the 608 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: sport not getting talked about, plus from Rivaldez would have 609 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: been noisy. Do you think that the Tigers should have 610 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: helped these guys or was this the right move to 611 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: get a package for Trek Schouble before he leaves. 612 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 3: Yes and yes, I don't know the answer. I mean, 613 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: I think when you were in a position like the 614 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: Tigers are in, you know, and they've been playing good 615 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: baseball over the last couple of years, I know they 616 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 3: didn't get off to a really good start, but they 617 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: have been playing really good baseball. And when you go 618 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 3: out and you go out and sign a guy like 619 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 3: Framer to join Trekschubel, I think you owe it to yourself. 620 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: I think you owe it to your team. I think 621 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 3: you owe it to your city to kind of see 622 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: it through the fact that they're two and a half back. 623 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: And it's not like the American League has just kind 624 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: of been dominated by a certain teams. You know, the 625 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 3: Rays have kind of gone off to a good start 626 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 3: and kind of kind of maintained it. The Yankees have 627 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: kind of been up and down. Obviously, the Red Sox 628 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 3: kind of came out of nowhere, but no one really 629 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: in the American League is kind of running away with it, 630 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: very similar to where the Dodgers are at. So I 631 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 3: can see sides where, you know, if I'm you know, 632 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 3: in position of power there, I'm kind of seeing it through. 633 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 3: But you also do understand, you know, you you have 634 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: a guy like Trek Scoogle maybe one time in your organization, 635 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: and he has the ability to walk at the end 636 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: of the year, and more than likely the Detroit Tigers 637 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: are not going to resign them, So you do have 638 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: the ability to capitalize and get a big return back 639 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 3: and from what we've just learned, where what I just learned, 640 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: you know, potentially they could have got a lot more 641 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 3: I think from some other teams, or I think they 642 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: probably could have got a lot more from the Dodgers. 643 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 3: But it's a really tough position to be in. You know, 644 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: I think if they would have been playing a little 645 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 3: bit worse leading up to the deadline, I think it 646 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: makes it a little bit easier decision to go out 647 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 3: and say, hey, you know what, we rolled the dice, 648 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: you know this offseason, you know when and who's who's 649 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: to say what the package was this season? Trek Scoogle 650 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 3: coming off of a back to back Cy Young pre 651 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 3: kind of elbow surgery, did they have an opportunity to 652 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: get more? You know, knowing that he could have been 653 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: part of a new team for an entire year, you 654 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: know the fact that he's going to join the Dodgers 655 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: for two months maybe kind of shrinks that prospect package 656 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 3: a little bit. But it's really tough because I don't 657 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 3: think anyone's really running away with the American League. You know, 658 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 3: obviously the Dodgers are the Dodgers. You got to ultimately 659 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 3: get there too, and the Dodgers have to get there 660 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 3: to play them. But the fact that you just gave 661 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 3: them Trek Schoogle and say the Tigers don't do anything else, 662 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 3: do they still kind of have depth in the rotation 663 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: to still potentially go on a run, win the division, 664 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 3: get a wild card. I don't know. 665 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be surprising though, to trade Schooble and 666 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: then hold say Casey Mize. All right, let's bring up 667 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: one more tweet. Cody Decker, very opinionated in the industry, 668 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: nose ball said, confused, there are days left till deadline, 669 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: no one tried to make a better offer. Makes me 670 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 2: think perhaps some ownership team ownerships actually wanted this to 671 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: happen for CBA narrative purposes. 672 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: The last sentence he uses there, that's actually a fact. 673 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: If ownership is united, right KP, and they want the 674 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: sport to drastically change and create a cap and all 675 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: of that, and that's cool, then this is what you're 676 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 2: rooting for. You're rooting for the Dodgers to get every 677 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 2: player to a level where it almost seems unfair, and 678 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: then for them to cruise to a World Series title 679 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: heading into a lockout year. Now, the interesting part gets 680 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 2: to how much do they care. Did they care enough 681 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: that everyone was like, yeah, we're not going to give 682 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: our best offer for Tyrek Schooble. We'll let the Dodgers 683 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: get him. We'll go for the next tier down, you know, 684 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: we'll go for Robbie Ray or Freddie Perrault to somebody 685 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: like that. We'll let the Dodgers get Schooble and make 686 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: the biggest impact in the postseason. Hey, and we don't 687 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: know what's going to happen, right, Dodgers could have this 688 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: super monstars team and still get slaid the last two years. 689 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: Two years ago, the Padres decided to hit for five seconds, 690 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: they take down the Dodgers. Last year, I mean, you 691 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 2: were at the World Series watching the Blue Jays inches 692 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 2: away multiple times. Crazy crazy World Series. Miguel Rojas had 693 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: to rescue them late. The Dodgers are putting themselves in 694 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: a position to succeed. Things are going their way in 695 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 2: the World Series, like we saw last year in a 696 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: seven gamer that was absolutely an epic classic. But I 697 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,959 Speaker 2: agree with Cody on this one. It's not even just 698 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,719 Speaker 2: what are the actions that are being taken Any owner 699 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: or at least most owners in baseball that all sit 700 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: in a room together and say we're going to shut 701 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: the sport down for a long period of time are 702 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 2: looking for the Dodgers to be in this pedestal by themselves. 703 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 2: That part is for sure. I mean, we're getting ads 704 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,479 Speaker 2: about salary caps like that. Stuff all makes sense. So 705 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: do you think players feel weird about this or they 706 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: don't care at all? Do you think players look around like, 707 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: why couldn't my team make an offer that didn't even 708 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: include a top five prospect in my system? 709 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 3: I definitely think there's certain players. There are certain players 710 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 3: that are a little bit more kind of involved and 711 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 3: kind of put on that fantasy GM hat and know 712 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 3: their farm system a little bit better than most players. 713 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 3: I personally wasn't a guy that knew all the prospects 714 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 3: by name and like their rankings and stuff. But there 715 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 3: were certain times where I'm like, I think we probably 716 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 3: could have got that guy. So I think there's a 717 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 3: lot of players that go or don't even really care 718 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 3: what they have to give up. It's like, hey, we're 719 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 3: in this, we want to win this. Why didn't my 720 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 3: team go out regardless of who we had to give up? 721 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 3: We have a great team here. Terrek Scuba would have 722 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 3: put us over the top, would have made us, you know, 723 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 3: potentially favorites to go out and win a World Series. 724 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 3: So there's definitely people. My initial take though, and I 725 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 3: know you have your kind of theories, and I don't 726 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 3: think you're wrong. I don't think it's far off. But 727 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 3: I think when I saw it on the Tigger last night, 728 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 3: when I was watching the TV, my wife was sitting 729 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 3: there and she doesn't really care, but I told her, 730 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, the best available player just went to the Dodgers, 731 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: And I said, do you know, if they win the 732 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 3: World Series, baseball is not happening next year? And she's like, 733 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 3: what do you mean. I was trying to explain it 734 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 3: to her a little bit. How deep that goes in 735 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 3: terms of did every other owner in baseball want this 736 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 3: to happen. I could make an argument for that too. 737 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 3: I could totally understand it. But my initial take was, 738 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 3: oh man, this is not great. That being said, every 739 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 3: team had the opportunity to outbid the Dodgers, and I 740 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 3: think that's where things get a little bit misunderstood. From 741 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 3: a fans perspective. Everyone that isn't a Dodger fan is 742 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 3: upset at the Dodgers for what they did, But every 743 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 3: other team had the ability to go out and outbid 744 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 3: the Dodgers for Tek Scougel's services. So there's not a 745 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 3: lot of blame to be put on the Dodgers. I 746 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 3: think there's a lot of blame to put on all 747 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 3: the other teams in baseball. Ultimately, the Dodgers do what 748 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 3: the Dodgers do. They go out, they want someone, They 749 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: put a package together and potentially it was the best one. 750 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 3: Or like you said, there is this something happening behind 751 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 3: closed doors, and this is gonna be the biggest talk. 752 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 3: This is gonna be the biggest story for a long time. 753 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 3: And god forbid, if the Dodgers go out and three 754 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 3: peete this year, it's gonna be a long time before 755 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 3: we see baseball game. 756 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 757 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: I hope it's a fun, competitive postseason and we definitely 758 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 2: have whatever you want to call it, an evil empire, 759 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 2: a team that is so heavily favored right now based 760 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: on this return props of the Dodgers. They're just operating 761 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: at a different level because these are trades. This is 762 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: not a money situation, and the fact that they have 763 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: such a strong farm system makes you think, what are 764 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 2: they doing well that some other teams like the Mets 765 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 2: are not. Right, the Mets are not competing for a 766 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: playoff bid this year, They're going to trade away ten guys. 767 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: They're the next highest team in payroll. So clearly the 768 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 2: Dodgers are just operating and firing on all cylinders right now. Hey, 769 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 2: when it comes to the Tigers, like I mentioned, you 770 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 2: can watch them next weekend to see if they have 771 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 2: any players left, but they'll be talking all about what's 772 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: going on with them. There's a number of games next 773 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 2: week on Fox and the Fox one app three there 774 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 2: and then one on f one that you can also 775 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 2: catch on Fox one. It's the race to October and 776 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 2: Fox one has it for you at Homer on the 777 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: go live or on demand. Never miss a moment stream. 778 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 2: Now start your Fox one watch three day free trial 779 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: today at foxone dot com. Hey, KP, We're quick with it. 780 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 2: Trek Scoogle's a Dodger. We already have a Dodger shirt 781 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 2: out there with Scooble on there and la baseball shirt there. 782 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 2: Trek Scooble scoob shirt, Little Scooby Douce. Trek Scoble shirt 783 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 2: that you can check out at foul Territory shop dot com. 784 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 2: So for the Dodger fans out there that are excited 785 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 2: and you should be, this is like the prime time 786 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 2: to be a Dodger fan in your life. Take advantage. 787 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 2: Go check it out. We have all of the player 788 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 2: licensed key or for you that will keep unveiling with 789 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: our merch collection. We're excited about it, and on our 790 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 2: way out a little promo about the trade deadline and 791 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 2: coverage that you're about to see here on the FT 792 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 2: network on Monday live at one o'clock Eastern time. The 793 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 2: FT YouTube channel will be. 794 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: Streaming for about five hours. Kratz aj me. 795 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 2: We're going to be bringing on a ton of guests 796 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 2: to talk about the trades as they go down. Boden 797 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 2: Ken Nightingale Murray, and then people that are covering specific 798 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 2: teams to talk about package returns and who everyone gets. 799 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 2: They'll be like thirty trades over the next twenty four 800 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 2: hours because almost nothing has happened from a quantity perspective. 801 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: KP. 802 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 2: Great stuff, and we'll talk to everyone else on Monday afternoon. 803 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 3: Sounds good, looking forward to it.