1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: It's Week thirteen. The Jaguars face the Detroit Lions at 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Ford Field in downtown Detroit, and Detroit Lions reporter Danny 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Rodgers is with us to tell us all about the 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Ford seven Lions. It's a battle of Ford and seven teams. 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: And Danny, this is like looking in the mirror almost right. 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: I mean, both these teams really need this game. Yeah, 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: you nailed it, hit the nail on the head. And 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: coach Campbell said that earlier this week that these two 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: teams are mirror images of each other. You've got two 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: teams that are gonging and hungry Jacksonville, you guys, of 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: course getting that big win over Baltimore and then Detroit 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: going three and one in their last four games. So 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: both teams are kind of on the uptick. It's just 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: for the Lions that are coming off the loss to 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: the Bills. It was really close loss, only by three points. 16 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: So it's now Kansas. The Detroit Lions bounced back and 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: continue on their their nice little uptick into the season. 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: Let's start with the coaching there. You mentioned Dan Campbell 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: and what he brings in terms of mentality to that team. 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: He's got a toughness, a roughness, kind of a rough 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: edge about him, but it seems like the team takes 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: to him. They sure do. You will hear all of 23 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: these players just say amazing things about coach Campbell and 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: the staff, who a majority of them are former players, 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: so you know they're kind of operating on the same 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: wavelengths coaches can relate to the players. For coach Campbell, 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: he brings an aggressive mindset to this team, a physical mindset, 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: and that's exactly what these players need. That's how you 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: need to play when you're not very experienced. Both of 30 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: these teams Jacksonville and you Try are both very on 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: the younger side of the spectrum here for NFL team, 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: so detrait especially on the defensive side, like you have 33 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: to play so physical, so aggressive. Um, when you don't 34 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: have a ton of experience, you have to be able 35 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: to play fast and and play in a simplified system, 36 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: which is what they do. And so Coach Campbell, um, 37 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: I love him. I think he's a great coach. I 38 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: think there's no better leader right now to lead this franchise. 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: Um and I'm glad it's him. He deserves all the 40 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: praise that he can get. Elevating Ben Johnson to offensive 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: coordinator who has produced one of the most explosive offenses 42 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: in the league. So um, he marked all aggressive mindset. Yeah, 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: and the players, we freaking love it. Danny Rodgers with 44 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: this Lions reporter and staying on the coaching conversation here, 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: of course, Jared Goss playing pretty well the last month 46 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: or so, four or five games. How much is Mark 47 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: Brunell had to do with golf finding his way at 48 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: least early in his time in Detroit. And and we 49 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: know Mark pretty well around here obviously, So how's he 50 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: been to deal with and in that kind of a 51 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: world where he's the quarterbacks coach, how does golf take 52 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: to him? Coach Barnell, what sticks out to me just 53 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: listening to his press conference is he's very transparent. He 54 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: keeps it one hundred with you. He doesn't sugarcoat anything. 55 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: But what I love the most about that quarterback coach 56 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: and quarterback relationship is how loyal they are to each other. 57 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: And you can tell the coach Brunell knows how good 58 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: of a quarterback Jared Goff can be and how good 59 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: he's been playing for the Detroit lines. I mean, he 60 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: went to a Super Bowl. We don't want people to 61 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: get Jared Goff played in the Super Bowl, and Coach 62 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: Brunell doesn't want you to forget that either. He has 63 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: all the trusts in the world that Jared can perform 64 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: very critical situations, and he's very real in the things 65 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: that Jared needs to get better. Sometimes this pocket presents 66 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,839 Speaker 1: um knowing when to stay in and wanted to get out. 67 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: So you also have Ben Johnson backing up Jared Goff 68 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: as well, saying I believe that he can make all 69 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: the critical throws in the world when we need to 70 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: have them. UM. So what I love the most is 71 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: just the loyalty there. You can tell that you're two 72 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: in a system. Is all of the help in the 73 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: world here and that's what they're in there and here 74 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: two everyone's acclimated to each other, they have trust each other, 75 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: they're loyal. UM. Coach right now can get a little 76 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: fifty and he doesn't want no one talking about drafting 77 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: a quarterback with Jared Goff as his QB one right now. 78 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: And I love that. I love that he told he 79 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: told it to the media straight. So look, we're not 80 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: talking about that right now because I believe my quarterback. 81 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: So I assume there's some one of a bromance there 82 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: with Brunal Jared. I love watching this. This Lions offense 83 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: can pound the football, they run it. It's the best 84 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: rushing attack in Detroit since what when Barry Sanders was 85 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: in the backfield. But this is more than just one man. 86 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: I mean, this is multiple running backs, big physical offensive line, 87 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: oh and a fullback to those are pretty rarely in NFL. 88 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: And this is old fashioned lineup and run at your football. 89 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: Feels like, yeah it is. I mean, the secret sauce 90 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: to this Detroit Lions offense hasn't and it will be 91 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: under head coach jam Campbell to run the ball. That's 92 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: what he said Tom when when he got here. We're 93 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: going to be physical, aggressive, run the ball down your 94 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 1: throat type team. They're finally living up to that identity 95 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: this year. Um, I don't believe they rushed below eighty 96 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: yards in a game, which is pretty hard to come by. 97 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: And you're doing that without your running back number one, 98 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: DeAndre Switch For most of this season, he's had shoulder 99 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: in injuries ankle injuries that had been nagging at him. 100 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: So whence incomes sixth year Jamal Williams, who Detroit lines 101 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: picked up a year ago from Green Bay who has 102 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: been carrying the load. He's been crushing it. But you 103 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: can also ask second year receiver aman Ross st Brown 104 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: to come up there and step up in the run 105 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: game as well. I think he had fifty yards in 106 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: one game on the ground, which is insane. So yeah, 107 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: it's it's a really good combination of a team effort 108 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: depth at that running back position. Do Staley a obviously 109 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: does an awesome job with those running backs. I love 110 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: watching them in practice. They're the one group that kind 111 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: of like, you know, piques your interest with how aggressive 112 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: they are in their drills. UM. And then of course 113 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: you have that offensive lineman that is anchored by the 114 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: tackles Taylor Decker, Penny school Um and Senator Frank rag Now. 115 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: And it really doesn't matter. Detroit was without their two 116 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: starting cards against the Bills. UM backups came in, they didn't. 117 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: Okay job, It certainly wasn't why Detroit lost. So you're 118 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: looking at it, Yeah, a very explosive offense. But the 119 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: thing that sticks out to me is they are very 120 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: well aware that they can do a lot better, which 121 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: is kind of scary to think about. Danny Rodgers with 122 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: US Detroit Lions Reporter, and let's flip into defense now, 123 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: and we all see the rankings thirty second in a 124 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: lot of the categories. So give us some bright spots 125 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: of this Lions defense. What are some things they do 126 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: better than the rankings might say. It's still a little 127 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: mind boggling to look at those rankings, especially in the 128 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: month of November and see that this Detroit Lions defense 129 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: is towards the bottom in the league. Because the reason 130 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: why they were winning these games, um, these really close 131 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: ones against Chicago Green Bay is because of the defense 132 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: and the critical game winning stops they were making. So 133 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: it's a little hard to wrought my head around that. Um, 134 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: it's still towards the bottom. I know they're making significant 135 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: improvements on that side of the ball, but the right spots, 136 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: there's a ton of right spots, and they are in 137 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: the form of rookie east Adan Hutchinson, which just seeing 138 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: the NFL defensive rookie of the UM. The last Detroit 139 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: Lions player to do that was in Dominican Sue I 140 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: think in two thousand and eleven, so it's been a minute. 141 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: It's hard to come by that that honor eve Aiden 142 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: Hutchinson defensive lineman who will go out on the edge, 143 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: drop back and coverage and pick off very very very 144 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: good quarterbacks. And Aaron Rodgers and Josh Allen. Um, you 145 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: have safety Kirby Joseph in the secondary who has been 146 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: a ball magnet, so instinctually smart in football. Um, he's 147 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: come up with three picks. He's everywhere. Josh Pascal was 148 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: a third round pick for these Detroit Lions. When he's 149 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: in UM, he's showing some really good bright spots. And then, 150 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: of course last game against the Bills, you have James Houston, 151 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: a sixth round pick out of Jackson State. His nickname 152 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 1: is the problem because he had sixteen and a half 153 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: sacks his senior year. He comes in and sacks Josh 154 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: Allen twice off of a combined five defensive snaps. Those 155 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: are the bright spots. It's the rookies, even only McNeil 156 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: who angers the defensive line there. He's in a second year, 157 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: so he's so young too. We had ten pressures against 158 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and the Giants, so those are the right 159 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: spots the rookies. The foundation of Detroit defense has been laid. 160 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: It's built um so, now it's canny knock down this 161 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: next barrier of Okay, we took an ol Can, we 162 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: bounced back and make some some more critical game winning stops. 163 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: But bright days are coming for this Detroit Lions defense. 164 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: I promise you're tried and true, Michigander. I mean, you 165 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: went to school at the university, you're you're from the 166 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: are you work in Detroit? Now? So it sounds like 167 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson's everything he's cracked up to be and was 168 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: promoted to be and maybe even more so far so, 169 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: all right, he's doing all these good things. What's the 170 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: next step for for Hutchinson and his development if there 171 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: is one? Yeah, And I talked to him in the 172 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: locker room this past week and I said to him, like, 173 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: I know you do not want to talk about yourself, 174 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: but you have this NFL Defensive Rookie of the Month 175 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: award here in cranted. When you're a second overall pick, 176 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: you kind of expect things like that, but they're still 177 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: extremely hard to come by. But I asked him, what's 178 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: what reassurance do you have and just the growth and 179 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: improvement you're making throughout the season to you know, come 180 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: by an award like that, and he'll tell you straight 181 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: he really likes the improvement and the growth that he's making. Um, 182 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: and you won't sugarcoat it. He knows he's improving. Um. 183 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: It was a slower start. He had a few sacks 184 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: against Washington, married me too, and then his performance kind 185 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: of tapered a little bit, and then it was an 186 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: uptick after those picks against Green Bay. So I think 187 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: what you you can see from him and what more 188 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: they can meet out of him is just for him 189 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: to show that versatility of picking off quarterbacks and also 190 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: being able to rush quarterbacks, which is still insane to 191 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: think about. Just where they have and they can play 192 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: him on the edge, you can play him within the 193 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: defensive line. I think if he can show more consistent versatility, 194 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: that's what his next step is, growing and improving. As 195 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: long as he doesn't, you know, taper off again in Plateau. 196 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: I think he can be everything they wanted him to be. 197 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: It's it's been funny. Obviously you guys had the number 198 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: one pick, took Traymon longer, and the media is obviously 199 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: asked the coaching staff, you know, kind of just their 200 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: final takeaway from okay drafting Hutch over Treylon Walker, and 201 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: every single one of them kind of let out a 202 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: little giggle at the end, and they're like, yeah, we 203 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: think we got we think we like our buy, we 204 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: like Hutch just a little bit. And they would laugh, 205 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: they would laugh at that and Google so, um, I 206 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: know they really love what Hutch has been able to 207 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: do from and I think he's his stallizer for me 208 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: exceeding expectations. Then there's been a lot of change obviously, 209 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: both organizations really the last you know, ten years or so, 210 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: a lot of struggles, a lot of change, coaching changes, 211 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: and again in Detroit the last couple of years, maybe 212 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: it's settled in a little bit now quarterbacks there after 213 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: the big trade and everything, and as you mentioned, all 214 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: the rookies on defense that are have a promising future. 215 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: So what is the what's the end game? Like? When 216 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: will the Lions arrive? Is there a season a date 217 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: of you know something that you expect this team to 218 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: be in the postseason if you ask any player on 219 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: this team, And and Jared Goff said this year, this 220 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: week or last week, he said, Detroit has arrived. Offensive 221 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: lineman offensive tackle Taylor decker Um this past post game 222 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: against the Bill said they are not the same old Lions, 223 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: and he used an exploitative and that I can't say it. 224 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: But these players know that they're not the same old 225 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: Lions team. And to me, the fact that they believe 226 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: that they know that and you can go in, Um, 227 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: I mean I go in every Sunday. I'm like, yeah, 228 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: I think we have a really good shot of being 229 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: the Bills who are Super Bowl contenders. And they almost 230 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: did that, um mr field goal, which I'm sure they 231 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: would love to get back on that and the secondary 232 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: broke down at the most untimely part of the game there. 233 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: But but these guys know that every single time they 234 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: go into a Sunday that they can win a game 235 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: and they can compete. It's just can you put that 236 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: w on the scoreboard when teams are above average better 237 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: than you? Um, they've done it against teams that their 238 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: average against here so far. UM, So that's that's they 239 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: weren't winning those games last year that they should have 240 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: beat Green Bay which was not really supposed to happen 241 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: in Arizona last year, which was not really supposed to happen. 242 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: So now they're winning games you're supposed to. To To me, 243 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: I think they've arrived. I really do. I normally saying 244 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: that four and seven, and I'm from Michigan. You said that, 245 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: so our expectations low. To me, they're not, because that's 246 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: just not the vibe that I get from this coaching 247 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: staff and these players, UM, is that they have low 248 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: expectations and low standards. They don't. Coach Campbell does not 249 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: have low standards. UM he was on that, he won't 250 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: be He really doesn't even claim when he was on 251 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: that O N six team Lions team, because he was injured, 252 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: He's like, well, I really didn't experience that, So he 253 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: doesn't claim that his standards are not low. Doesn't really 254 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: know what it feels like. So the standards are there. 255 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: I think the Detroit Allions have arrived. I mean if 256 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: they're able to crack into the playoffs. M Granted, this 257 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: staff and this team won't really talk about that right 258 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: now that they're all focused on Jacksonville. UM, but I 259 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: think even if you're a game out of playoffs this year, 260 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: like Okay, they're here, they've arrived, Um, they have something 261 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: to build on. So I just I don't think the 262 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: lines are very very far outside media, outside fan bases 263 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: they'll be like, oh, it's just the same allliance. I 264 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: think if you're here in the building, you know that's 265 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: not true. And they're a lot closer than they might appear.