WEBVTT - Fire Drill 007: Masters Recap

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<v Speaker 1>Walking up the third t I didn't think Scotty could

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<v Speaker 1>win the Masters. It just didn't feel like that. It

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<v Speaker 1>just like felt like Cam was on it and I've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen anyone down there on the third and then

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<v Speaker 1>Um makes it chips and he flubs it really and

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<v Speaker 1>then makes an unbelievable shot. It's a really brave shot

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<v Speaker 1>that bumping it up that stope. It's really steep turn

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<v Speaker 1>to make that, and walking off the third groin, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't feel like he could lose it, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>in about a two minute stretch, it went from like

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<v Speaker 1>this is really sad for Scotty to like, wow, he's

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna it. Just felt the energy and the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing to me changed completely. Another log on the fire,

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody here is give the time. All right, Here we

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<v Speaker 1>are the final fire drill of the Masters, and what

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<v Speaker 1>a week it has been. Obviously, Alan, you wrote yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>that if Scotty Cheffer went out and shot seventy two

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<v Speaker 1>and one, a star would be born. You shoot seventy one,

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<v Speaker 1>even with a four point on eighteen, and thus you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wins the Masters, his fourth fourth win in six starts. Truly,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to be obvious that a star is born. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what an incredible performance. You know, all week long kind

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<v Speaker 1>of followed the speed Temple of two thousand fifteen. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just played it lights out for thirty six holes, built

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<v Speaker 1>a big lead, fought like hell on Saturday was really

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<v Speaker 1>tough day, and then just you know, met the moment

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday. I mean, so many incredible up and downs.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously the one on three will will join the the

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<v Speaker 1>pantheon of Master's highlights forever. But I mean he was

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<v Speaker 1>incredible with his wedge. I actually called Ben Crenshaw in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the round and he was just raving

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<v Speaker 1>about do you see all these shots? He's hitting high ones,

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<v Speaker 1>low one, spinning ones. You know, he was. He was

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<v Speaker 1>really into it, and but of course you knew he

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<v Speaker 1>also he drove it really well when he had to,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got a little tense there. You when Rory

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<v Speaker 1>hold out on eighteen, there was just a sense like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh boy, let's let's see how how Scott. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd already slayed camp Smith, and then it's like, how

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<v Speaker 1>is he going to react to this one? And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I almost knocked the Flaxi down fourteen and

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<v Speaker 1>really bold second shot on the fifteen, and those birdies

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of iced it. So you know, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>player with no weaknesses, like that's what makes him so dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was really on display of just a great

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<v Speaker 1>all around performance and you know it pretty I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you guys watched the press conference, he killed

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<v Speaker 1>in there. He's just such a likable, humble, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sweet kids so I think, Yeah, I think the golfing

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<v Speaker 1>public is cana fall in love with him. Jeff, what

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<v Speaker 1>are your what are your thoughts on what you saw

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<v Speaker 1>this week? Yeah? I mean, no one really was. He

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<v Speaker 1>was number one in the world, he's the most hot

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<v Speaker 1>flyer and golf oh year. Really and no one really

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<v Speaker 1>picked him today. Everyone was picking every somebody else. No

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<v Speaker 1>one really believed he could keep doing it. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you watch what we saw the last four days, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of why I didn't wait. How obvious was it really?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the two form plans the year Cam and

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<v Speaker 1>Scott in the last group, it seems to happen a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>We always ignore the form, but it's always it pops up. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he looked really ropey those last three holes yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>it looked with the last three holes Saturday, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the first two or three, the way it was going through,

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<v Speaker 1>walking up the third t, I didn't think Scotty could

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<v Speaker 1>win the Masters. It just didn't feel like that. It

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<v Speaker 1>just like felt like Cam was on it and Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Cam menaport tea shot, but it looked like he could

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<v Speaker 1>get away over it down there, and then Scotty, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen anyone down there on the third and then

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<v Speaker 1>Um makes it the chips and he flubs it really

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<v Speaker 1>and then makes an unbelievable shot. It's a really brave

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<v Speaker 1>shot that bumping it up that stope. It's really steep

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<v Speaker 1>to to make that, and walking off the third grain

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<v Speaker 1>and didn't feel like he could lose it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like in about a two minute stretch, it went from

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<v Speaker 1>like this is really sad for Scotty, like wow, he's

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna it. Just felt the energy and the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing to me changed completely Um. And then after that

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<v Speaker 1>it was just he just put on a clinic. If

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<v Speaker 1>had to close out of time, it really didn't he

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<v Speaker 1>like if he missed a shot. He had a good

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<v Speaker 1>enough pitch and made a good Um. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>really good put on eleven. I thought was an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>part on top of Camp's Bertie Um and then twelve

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<v Speaker 1>sort of bit cam like it does. It's been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people before and he finished stuff. Well. Rory

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<v Speaker 1>was fun to watch. I mean it's become a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a pattern and that it's sort of plays them

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<v Speaker 1>tough out of it and then comes home fast. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's always the best player in the field at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the tournament, Rory, but he just does too

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<v Speaker 1>much damage at the start. But that was fun to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>fund to watch him play a team there. That was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like if you if Rory finishing second of

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<v Speaker 1>the Master is never gonna make him happy unless he

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<v Speaker 1>finishes it like that. You know, he's walking out pretty boy,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty fun way to finish second, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So um that might sort of, I don't know, get

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<v Speaker 1>him coming back next year a bit low, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>happier just because of the way it also have ended.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's gonna have some pretty good memories of this.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not over for Rory yet there Colin Colin

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<v Speaker 1>can't help but finished top five in Majors um incredible player. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>great week, fantastic. I mean it's sort of for a

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<v Speaker 1>for a Masters that generally they're usually clothe us, but

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<v Speaker 1>for one that finishes with a where they could he

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<v Speaker 1>had a full part and he could still have had

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<v Speaker 1>three more parts of still one. Um, it was an

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly it was an interesting master to watch when it

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<v Speaker 1>was a great Sunday, even though it wasn't really ever close. Yeah, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>what what what's your sense of Scottie Scheffler? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean obviously going to be a star. Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, uh they talked a little bit about it

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<v Speaker 1>on the broadcast, but I mean Ted Scott has obviously

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<v Speaker 1>brought the guys on. They seemed very very comfortable together. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the guys alleged did a lot with Bubba obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I mean I was watching their interactions.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like very loose and obviously they haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>together that long. So and obviously the results uh speak

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<v Speaker 1>for themselves. And to bring it back to Monday qualifiers,

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<v Speaker 1>which I always tried my best to do. Uh two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand eighteen, uh Utah Championship Corn Furry UM Champion Corn

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<v Speaker 1>Furry Tour. Uh wells Ela Torus and Scottie Scheffler bullshot

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six US by two, and uh you know I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get it done. The next week, Scotty Monday qualified

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<v Speaker 1>and then missed the cut at the corn Furry event.

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<v Speaker 1>But they've done pretty well since then. Two of the

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<v Speaker 1>UH two or whatever will finished like fifth or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So I always watch out for Monday. Is

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<v Speaker 1>always the best players are at Monday's event at some

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<v Speaker 1>point in their career. I should I should mention that. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine Ella this, Alan Schipnuk let us off. Jeff Ogilvie

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<v Speaker 1>was second Ryan French of Monday q Info and host

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<v Speaker 1>of the Grind podcast is with Us as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>now Las Versias, host of Grassroots with Legettro Jenkins also

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<v Speaker 1>joins us. Last, what's your sense of what you saw

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<v Speaker 1>this week from Scotty Scheffler. I think back to Scotty's

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<v Speaker 1>dad when he became number one in the world, and

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<v Speaker 1>he hugged Scotty and said, as great as a golf

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<v Speaker 1>for you are, you're a better person. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I think about that is because I think every at

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<v Speaker 1>he watching, you know, he was like the best friend

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<v Speaker 1>that that you want to hang out with when you

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<v Speaker 1>go back home from college. He's just kind of that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>A friend of mine worked at Olympia Fields in just

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<v Speaker 1>outside of Chicago in when they had the Junior Ryder Cup,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first thing he told me about it was

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<v Speaker 1>the Scottie Scheffler kid is the nicest person on the

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<v Speaker 1>planet and he's one heck of a player. Keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye out for him. So as a person, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>love that. It was interesting to see that he was

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<v Speaker 1>always he answered the bell quite a bit, he put

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in some awkward positions off the first he

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<v Speaker 1>today was left. He had a really courageous punch and

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<v Speaker 1>that was a heck of an up and down and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Cam goes Birdie Birdie Adam right out of

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<v Speaker 1>the gate. So I was impressed with his ability to

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<v Speaker 1>stay in the moment and and to have that composure.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you look back at people that when the masters,

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<v Speaker 1>very rarely do people make a double bogey, and when

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<v Speaker 1>the masters you it's a generous course in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ways that you've got to control your ball. And

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't see Scotty make one until the four part

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<v Speaker 1>on eighteen, So an amazing job of composure of just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of being yourself and being prepared to see him

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<v Speaker 1>on the range so late after each round, hitting balls

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<v Speaker 1>deep into the night. Um, you know, as I questioned it, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know my body couldn't handle that. But clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he has a game plan. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>steeped and remaining positive being in the moment, and and

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<v Speaker 1>it delivered, and it's been delivering for one heck of

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<v Speaker 1>a hot month here, So real grateful to have him

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<v Speaker 1>in the game. Yeah, And in fairness, I mean he

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<v Speaker 1>did get the better end of the draw playing in

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<v Speaker 1>the last group on Friday after the wind laid down

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<v Speaker 1>for that for a big portion of that late afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>which had to help. So he was he was putting

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<v Speaker 1>out last the last three days of the Masters, which

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<v Speaker 1>also led to late night you know, late evening rain sessions.

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<v Speaker 1>But Alan, what's what's your sense of Cam and and

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<v Speaker 1>his performance coming off a player's championship and and and

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<v Speaker 1>what he could till as his point, Scotty to be

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<v Speaker 1>one under through four or five holes there today, he

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<v Speaker 1>could have easily been four over, And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>really ended up being the way he wanted, was salvaging

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<v Speaker 1>something early on and getting that chip in and turning.

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<v Speaker 1>But Cam kept coming at him and until twelve there

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<v Speaker 1>was still there was still very much a tournament going

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<v Speaker 1>on for sure, although I'm not sure Camp never totally

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<v Speaker 1>recover from the third hole. I mean it looked like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, cam Smith has maybe the best short game

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<v Speaker 1>in Gulf, and he's thinking, all right, well, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get up and down. He's not. We're gonna be We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be tired, and instead he walked off, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three behind. It was. It was such a gut punch

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<v Speaker 1>and he could never close the gap. He never got

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<v Speaker 1>closer than three strokes, and uh, you know it was

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<v Speaker 1>hard to watch because he out at twelve. He kind

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<v Speaker 1>of lost the plot a little bit. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, tossing the club and his body language and

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<v Speaker 1>he just looked so be And that's what this course does.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, Jeff was talking about the energy

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<v Speaker 1>and the excitement of the finish and that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>Masters are known for. But there's a dark side of that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of broken hearts and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>broken spirits, and that's part of what makes it so poignant.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that you think about you know, Phil Phil

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<v Speaker 1>Mikinson's spot to win, but that that image of Ernie's

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there, you know, eating the apple. He never really

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<v Speaker 1>recovered from that, it felt like, at least not at

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<v Speaker 1>this particular venue. And um, camp Smith is so talented.

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<v Speaker 1>He obviously he's played, he has. This is his fourth

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<v Speaker 1>top ten the last five Masters. I mean, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor made for him. But you know that something like

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<v Speaker 1>would happen to him at twelve leaves the bruise. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>think about about speech and he hasn't be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get it done here since since he cracked up in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and sixteen. And it's just that was hard

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<v Speaker 1>to watch and I felt for him. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we all love camp Smith. He's a he's a

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<v Speaker 1>likable bloke and he's just fun to watch and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, he you know, he's just the latest have

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<v Speaker 1>his heartbroken by a gust a national. What do you think, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you what are your thoughts on Cam in

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<v Speaker 1>his future? Massive future? I mean, he's such a dedicated guy,

0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.679
<v Speaker 1>and he's sort of as serious as he looks in

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<v Speaker 1>those last feear out of those Majors, as good as

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<v Speaker 1>he looks, and is determined and sort of calm. He's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty loose and relaxed. Off the course. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't take it all too seriously once he gets off

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<v Speaker 1>the course. He's a sort of guy who'll get over

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<v Speaker 1>this a little bit more than I think others. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, twelve gets if you play the Masters long enough,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve is going to get you. I mean, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen to thankfully, it doesn't happen to everyone on a Sunday,

0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.160
<v Speaker 1>but it's going to get you at some point. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you will learn from He's a sort of guy

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<v Speaker 1>who'll sort of shake that off and he'll be leaving

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<v Speaker 1>with He'll be leaving feeling like he can win the Masters,

0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.120
<v Speaker 1>almost more than he would have been any other one,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. He doubled the first on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>double the last on Thursday. He had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff go wrong. I mean, to Allen's point, the third

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<v Speaker 1>was just a massive It was the biggest momentum shift

0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I think I've ever seen in a seven year old tournament.

0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen anything like it ever. Um. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a match play, like you know, because it really kind

0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:10.319
<v Speaker 1>of was those two unless someone else did something crazy. Um,

0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.480
<v Speaker 1>and he he had an unbelievbal shot at four that

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<v Speaker 1>just missed by a couple of yards, you know, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and did well and twelve got him and he did

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<v Speaker 1>look pretty rattled the next couple of holes. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't been in exactly that situation, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who's played long enough knows what he felt like.

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<v Speaker 1>And he wanted to be anywhere but the golf course

0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.079
<v Speaker 1>WoT down thirteen. I mean, all the air comes out

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<v Speaker 1>of your balloon. I mean he's been thinking about this

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<v Speaker 1>tournament for twelve months. Realistically, he's been grinding for it

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<v Speaker 1>since probably after the British Open last year. Every practice

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<v Speaker 1>session he's had for the last two or three months

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<v Speaker 1>has been about this, and so there there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of air in your balloon when you get here, and

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<v Speaker 1>when it all gets taken out in one hole, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty hard to sort of keep very equilibrium for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of holes. But but he fifteen sixty was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty like he could have just drifted off and finished

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<v Speaker 1>in an ambulance. But yeah, a strong, good guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>walked off with a smile in his face, I think

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<v Speaker 1>a raw smile. But I think he'll be back. I mean,

0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:03.880
<v Speaker 1>we saw that about a lot of guys. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>why would have thought Rory hasn't won one yet, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>Cam looks as good as anyone. I mean, he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the discnversation that every year when we

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<v Speaker 1>come to this stuff anement. Well, let let me just

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<v Speaker 1>say something real quick about the seventh hole too, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as you know Jeff, that's that green's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of blind from the fairway. So both him and Scotty

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<v Speaker 1>hit great shots. The crowd went crazy and camp sing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll pick one up here, and you get up

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<v Speaker 1>to the green and Scotty's inside of him. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I have to do to shake this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? That was that was a big moment um

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<v Speaker 1>and also for step player to play the first seven

0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.320
<v Speaker 1>and to wonder he knocked out almost everybody else who

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<v Speaker 1>had dreams of you know, maybe he'll come back and

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll go low like that start by Shuffler really

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<v Speaker 1>created so much daylight between him and the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the field, so that that seventh hole I think, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little overshadow about happened number three, But I

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<v Speaker 1>thought seven was was big too, because again Cam gave

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<v Speaker 1>him as best shot, and you know, Scotty's got a

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<v Speaker 1>tough chin. He just took it and gave it right back. Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>what are your thoughts on Cam? Yeah, I'll take it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit from a different angle. I think golf

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<v Speaker 1>needs characters and there's not enough of them. I mean,

0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Scotty's obviously super talented, but you know, he's very buttoned

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<v Speaker 1>down quiet, and Cam has like the mullet and the

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<v Speaker 1>mustache and you know, like it's very like open and

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<v Speaker 1>uh says what he wants an interview is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rory like, and uh, I think I think, I mean,

0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.800
<v Speaker 1>he's obviously talented to get to be there forever and

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like, like Jeff and Allen said, it's only

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of time until he wins one. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just love the character side of him. I think golf

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<v Speaker 1>needs needs more. Uh. Jim Smith's for sure, and Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I just really like him, huge fan that

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<v Speaker 1>it's impossible not to like him, impossible. I think, you know,

0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.720
<v Speaker 1>he's I talked to Peter Bessie about this right like.

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<v Speaker 1>There was an image that came up on the screen,

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<v Speaker 1>a little graphic that said Cam Smith would be the

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<v Speaker 1>second Australian to win the Masters. In a lot of ways,

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<v Speaker 1>he would kind of be the first. And I say

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<v Speaker 1>that because there's kind of this tall poppy syndrome that

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<v Speaker 1>we we kind of equate with Australian culture and where

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<v Speaker 1>someone like Norman that wants to be celebrated, that wants

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<v Speaker 1>to have, you know, all the adoration not necessarily well

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<v Speaker 1>received in Australia. And I'm sure Jeff's familiar with the

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<v Speaker 1>tall poppy syndrome I talk about. But two, think about

0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:30.440
<v Speaker 1>cam start. He had bookend double bogies the first round

0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:35.200
<v Speaker 1>and squeezed eight berties on the remaining sixteen holes. It's amazing.

0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.360
<v Speaker 1>And then today he comes out Bertie Birdie, just out

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<v Speaker 1>of the gate, just a fighter. And I really would

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<v Speaker 1>love to know the line that he went with on

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<v Speaker 1>number twelve. I think he hit nine iron and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be stunned if he was more than ten feet left

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<v Speaker 1>of the flag in his mind when he when he

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<v Speaker 1>took the club back. But I love watching him play.

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<v Speaker 1>He's now tied for third and tied for second in

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<v Speaker 1>the Masters. His ball flight fits well there, his attitude

0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:08.360
<v Speaker 1>fits well there. His sense of drama and showing up

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<v Speaker 1>in these moments obviously works for him there. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's a guy that you know, we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of in the future and hopefully you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a green jacket Augusta Jeff, give you a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>respond to whatever poppy syndrome is or whatever Las is

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the figure we should probably go to the

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<v Speaker 1>Australian for the Australian inside. Wow. I mean it is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of true we bring out complete legends down a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit because we don't want to be get ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of themselves. Right, It's a natural thing and it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a bit unfortunate when it comes to like golf

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<v Speaker 1>stars and stuff, but I would agree. I mean, Scotty

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<v Speaker 1>was the first AZZI obviously and it was really amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But Cam is the most Australian Australian golfer. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>He is all aussy. Every Australian can relate to whim.

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<v Speaker 1>We've all got friends like him. He's like the guy

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<v Speaker 1>you're meeting the pub, you know, and have a good

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<v Speaker 1>Emma beer and a good chat with. So um. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the most Australian and Australian to be out there

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. He's like Shane Lowry of Australians, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the Irish of Irish. I have to ask Jeff something

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<v Speaker 1>because one of the things I do on Sundays I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go catch the early finishers and just get some thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>about the leaders, so I have more material. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>for anecdotes and quotes and stuff. And so I caught

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Scott by the clubhouse and we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Cam and he was great, and he said, he's, um,

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<v Speaker 1>a bogan Is that that right? Is that the right term? Yeah? Bog?

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, bit of a bug and yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 1>was and I suppose that He's like, oh, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to look it up me. And after Cam drifted away,

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<v Speaker 1>I never googled that. Can you explain to us what

0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.040
<v Speaker 1>a bogan is? Because apparently it's like a big thing

0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:48.800
<v Speaker 1>with Really it's kind of it's a lovable sort of

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<v Speaker 1>term for red nicky, what trashy kind of you know,

0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.200
<v Speaker 1>like just really it's just but it's lovable, you know,

0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like in that really good spirit, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>like loud cut, loud cut a crazy crazy haircuts. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you know a bugging, you know a bug And

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, yeah, okay, that's awesome. I'm gonna use that

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<v Speaker 1>another time. That's he's Camp. It's Cam, the cable guy

0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.800
<v Speaker 1>is basically what, yeah, a little bit, a little bittally

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<v Speaker 1>totally Um, all right, let's let's just quick whip around

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<v Speaker 1>on on Rory before we get to Tiger. But I

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<v Speaker 1>mean again, uh, seventy three, seventy one, boom sixty four,

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<v Speaker 1>back door second place Masters leaving with the smiless face. Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>you've already kind of touched upon it. But Alan, what

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<v Speaker 1>are your thoughts on Rory? I mean Rory, he's well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got the most frustrating golfer in history. Like he's

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<v Speaker 1>on an absolute heater. He can do no wrong. He

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<v Speaker 1>is destroying gust the national and all of a sudden

0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.600
<v Speaker 1>he creeps up enough where he might actually have a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, everyone's doing the math. Okay, if you can,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can get three more coming in and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of course, you know, fifteen, which is not an easy hole,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's definitely an opportunity. One of the greatest drivers

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<v Speaker 1>of the golf ball ever yanked dead left, makes a

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<v Speaker 1>disappointing part. Go to sixteen, which we all know is attackable,

0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of in a different shot. And that

0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.080
<v Speaker 1>was and then then at that moment, you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when when Scotty kind of regrouped in sky Scheffler

0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and and step you know, Stephan Aboy's neck. But there

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<v Speaker 1>was a little brief moment where Rory had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to make it really interesting and he knew it and

0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:25.760
<v Speaker 1>those are like his first bad swings of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he just kind of you know, he's free

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<v Speaker 1>wheeling and just chasing and having fun and almost I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, holy shit, have a chance, like I have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to win the Masters. And then started at

0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:36.760
<v Speaker 1>the ball side was was and so it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was vexing as always. I mean, the highlight in eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>of course was was fabulous and uh CBS replayed it

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty times because they were just trying to fill

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<v Speaker 1>air time and it'll it'll live on and it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a great moment for sure, and a great shot.

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<v Speaker 1>But at that point, you know, uh, he just he

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<v Speaker 1>like he'd squandered some really important chances on the back

0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.320
<v Speaker 1>nine and probably wasn't have mattered. But you know, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's say Rory makes makes a three or four on

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen and stuff on sixteen, Shefflers are going to hear

0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.159
<v Speaker 1>those roars and you don't know what's gonna happen behind them. Um,

0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.719
<v Speaker 1>but it just wasn't meant to be. Now, obviously we're

0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:09.239
<v Speaker 1>asking to play a perect round of golf. But when

0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.560
<v Speaker 1>you start out seventy three, seventy three and you're Roy girl,

0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:13.840
<v Speaker 1>you gotta played for a round of golf and you

0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:16.639
<v Speaker 1>just didn't quite do it. It's so funny because it

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<v Speaker 1>just seems like, well, Scheffler, you know, plays well here,

0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:23.320
<v Speaker 1>and then Headeki plays well here, and Jordan's Peith plays

0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.640
<v Speaker 1>well here, and cam Smith is definitely gonna win here

0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:28.080
<v Speaker 1>next year, and but Rory looks like it's inevitable for

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<v Speaker 1>him to win. Dj is always going to be a contender,

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks plays well at the Major. The amount of people

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<v Speaker 1>you can make a case for coming out of this week,

0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.000
<v Speaker 1>and just sort of golf in general is always seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be why we have these incredible masters on a

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<v Speaker 1>regular basis. It's just it's the venue, and it's it's

0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:50.800
<v Speaker 1>the star power and the and the drama of that

0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.600
<v Speaker 1>of that. Certainly that second nine, Ryan, what are your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on Rory and just sort of where do we

0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.800
<v Speaker 1>go from here? Yeah? I mean Ellen, Ellen, Nil is

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<v Speaker 1>like you feel like Rory just cannot get over that hump.

0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously sixty four on Sunday at the Masters

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<v Speaker 1>by itself is unreal boot you know, a relatively easy

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know wedge on fifteen. You know he thought

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:16.720
<v Speaker 1>he got a bad break but misses that button then

0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you know all and said it on sixteen. He doesn't

0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:22.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get It's just like he just creeps us to

0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the edge of like he's gonna win the Masters, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, crushes our souls. So I don't think

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.440
<v Speaker 1>there's anyone talked on Twitter who's had such an amazing

0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:35.520
<v Speaker 1>career but more disappointingly than on than Rory McIlroy. I mean,

0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:38.120
<v Speaker 1>the guy just gets hammered on Twitter. I'm a huge

0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Rory fan, but he's always like just cheases us endlessly

0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:47.320
<v Speaker 1>and uh another another year last is he is? He?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you hammer him on Twitter like you hammer everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else on Twitter? Yeah, but I'm back in on Rory

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. Um. I you know, if you would

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<v Speaker 1>have asked me as Rory ever going to win another major,

0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I would have said no. Now I think he he will,

0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:08.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'll tell you why. I think you know we've

0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:11.520
<v Speaker 1>he did. He comes out of the gate with the birdie,

0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and yes he's playing from the middle of the pack,

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:18.119
<v Speaker 1>so like we can say all that, right, but you know,

0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:23.680
<v Speaker 1>on two he's got within, he's within one sixty on

0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the par five makes a par unfortunately, but when he

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<v Speaker 1>gets to the back, he showed me something with his wedges,

0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:32.639
<v Speaker 1>the pitch and the vision and the line that he

0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:36.240
<v Speaker 1>took on fourteen was amazing. He played it kind of

0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:38.320
<v Speaker 1>high and left and let the contour bring the ball

0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:41.240
<v Speaker 1>back to the hole. Obviously he holds out on eighteen.

0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give him credit for that shot on fifteen

0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:46.600
<v Speaker 1>because that's a really difficult shot with the ball below

0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.960
<v Speaker 1>your feet and he he's a foot from that, kind

0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 1>of nestling back and taking the taking the hill back

0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:54.600
<v Speaker 1>to be you know, three or four ft or so.

0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:57.480
<v Speaker 1>He showed me a lot. Yeah, it would have been

0:22:57.560 --> 0:22:59.400
<v Speaker 1>nice to if it had a better shot on sixteen.

0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:05.000
<v Speaker 1>But I think I think he's found something in his

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<v Speaker 1>heart and it's going to come out with the hunger,

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and I look forward to seeing more of that rory,

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:12.720
<v Speaker 1>uh than than the rory that you know he gets

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:17.600
<v Speaker 1>hammered for no the web the wedge on fifteen was solid.

0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>It is just to drive. I mean he had missed

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:22.680
<v Speaker 1>a drive all day. He led the field and driving

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:25.359
<v Speaker 1>just into three yards. I mean he was hitting his

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:28.440
<v Speaker 1>driver beautifully. And fifteen is like the do or die

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 1>swinging of that round for him. You know, he's done

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the hard work to get himself a position. He just

0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 1>has to finish it. And you know that's just that

0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Rory in a nutshell, Like he's there, he's on the precipice.

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:41.960
<v Speaker 1>If he if he can, if he can attack fifteen,

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 1>like who knows what's going to happen? And nobody eagles

0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:48.800
<v Speaker 1>fifteen this year, Alan, nobody right fifth day is completely

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:51.560
<v Speaker 1>giant to stay. It's a completely differ the hole now,

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:54.920
<v Speaker 1>like nobody went for the grain. Um, he had to

0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:56.719
<v Speaker 1>try it along one day. Like I think you've been

0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:58.359
<v Speaker 1>a little bit hard on the guy. I mean sixty

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:00.600
<v Speaker 1>four in the last round of the Master's um. The

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>shot on sixteen, if it had landed two yards further,

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:05.680
<v Speaker 1>it was going to go stiff like it was. We've

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:07.359
<v Speaker 1>seen a lot of balls land where his ball landed,

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and they were next to the whole. I mean he

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 1>got soft bounce, He landed a bit short. Um, he

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 1>sprayed on seventeen and missed the eighth Graham. But I mean,

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Like he finished off that round pretty

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 1>well if asked me, I mean, I don't know. I

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:22.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know. It's they're not easy shots. I mean, I

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:26.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I always I've just left nothing but impress

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and just he knows he didn't lose the tournament today.

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:30.119
<v Speaker 1>He didn't lose it on fifteen, and he didn't lose

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:32.320
<v Speaker 1>it anywhere we're talking about. He lost on Thursday and Friday.

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:35.920
<v Speaker 1>So um, he's proven that when he's in front, he's good.

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 1>He just has to find out how to get in front,

0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:40.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like he's just going to get through Thursday

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:42.440
<v Speaker 1>and Friday and I think he's he'll have that place

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:46.159
<v Speaker 1>worked out. But um, you can't start ten back or

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 1>where he started and realistically ever think you're gonna win

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the tournament. And if he had made two more birdies

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and got made it a bit more interesting, it would

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 1>have been the most historic round of all time ever,

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Like he's two shots away from total history. So um,

0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. People can get on Rory. It's really

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 1>hard to do what he does, and everybody loves watching

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 1>him play so as long as he keeps playing, I'm

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna keep watching and I'll always be a fan. So

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:11.119
<v Speaker 1>I love him. But when one I think he deserves

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>a career Grand Slam as good as he is, Um,

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>he's a as good as he is, he deserves it,

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I think. Well, I mean that that's a needed perspective.

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for bringing some sanity this conversation, Jeff. But

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and I did like what you said, like the way

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.360
<v Speaker 1>he left the course feeling triumphant. I think the Masters

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:33.639
<v Speaker 1>has felt a little oppressive to him, or a lot oppressive.

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 1>And maybe this, this changes it. You know, that that

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>lightness that he had and the joy, he hasn't felt

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:41.879
<v Speaker 1>that around here very much. So I mean, maybe we'll

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 1>look back on this Sunday and this will be like

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.640
<v Speaker 1>a real important turning point. So who knows. Uh, let's

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 1>all hope because it would be awesome to see it.

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 1>It's like if you get to if he gets one

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 1>green jacket, he might get for you know, like he

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>just has to get the first one, so we'll see

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>what happens. Let's uh, let's let's quickly touch on Tiger

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:07.160
<v Speaker 1>one last time. You know, started getting hard to watch there,

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:10.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, through the throws of the weekend, just with

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the hobbling and wobbling and uh some of the shots.

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 1>But you gotta, i mean granted yet another comeback that

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you know that was caused by his own doing obviously

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 1>with with you know, wrecking a car um for whatever

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>reason and and for however it happened. But at the

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:31.440
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, you gotta tip your cap to

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:34.640
<v Speaker 1>this guy who who who who not only came back

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 1>but made the cut and played all four rounds and

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 1>continue to grind all the way through For me, I

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just I think, just when you think

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you've seen everything from this guy, he does yet another

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>sort of unthinkable thing on the golf course and he

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:54.880
<v Speaker 1>did it again this week. Alan. Yeah, just another legendary

0:26:54.920 --> 0:27:00.399
<v Speaker 1>performance in its own way. Um. You know, the get

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>easier st Andrews, which he committed to playing in his

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:05.359
<v Speaker 1>in his post round comments is a much easier walking

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>augusta National, a lot more time to prepare. He played

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:13.640
<v Speaker 1>just enough throwback shots to remind you that it's still there,

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 1>like he's still going to find a way to do it,

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>um and play efficiently. Um, certainly he was, you know,

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the rust and his putting showed on Saturday. I mean,

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 1>that's probably the worst putting around we've ever seen from

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Tiger Woods at Augusta Nationals. He has been putting at home,

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 1>but you can't replicate these slopes and these lines and

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>these speeds, and you just have to play in tournaments

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 1>on the PGA Tour to even have a chance. And so, um,

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the takeaway is that his will and his his grit,

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 1>his determination is just never been equaled except for me

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:49.360
<v Speaker 1>by Ben Hogan. And um, he's still got he's still got,

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, some pretty magical hands and he'll he'll just

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>find a way to manufacture a swing. So he's always

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:58.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna be dangerous on the right courses. And I think

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>he proved that to himself. He can get through saving

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>two holes. Now walking him a limp away from the

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.160
<v Speaker 1>clubhouse after he signed a scorecard, I mean, I think

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:08.920
<v Speaker 1>when the cameras are on him, he was trying to

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 1>minimize it because of his pride, Like he was really

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>really dragon and hurting when it was over and the

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>adrenaline left his body and so but he did it.

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was a milestone from he got through

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:22.119
<v Speaker 1>seving two holes and that that's the first test and

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 1>he passed it and reminded the world and you know

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>what Tiger Woods is, and it was it was a

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>thrill to to get a taste of it. Especially that

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>first round was just incredible. So it's gonna be exciting.

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>What is Tiger Woods like? The energy this week? Those

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>are one of the biggest crowds ever Augusta National and

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>because usually they're spread out and across different holes, everybody

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>on the course was falling Tiger and he's just he's

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>a phenomenon. Jeff, I'm I'm sure you noticed watching throughout

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the week and weekend. I mean, there's just a noticeable

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>humility to him that I've certainly never seen, acknowledging crowd

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>thanking his team around him make it more about appreciating

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the appreciation more so than every ever before. Is that

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>is that what you picked up on as well? Yeah, finally,

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>And I mean there was obviously an incredible effort to

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>do what he did, and like, I think we didn't

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 1>really know how he felt, really, I mean we're guessing

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and we could go on what he says, but he

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:21.959
<v Speaker 1>don't really know. But like seeing him walk that off

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the eighth grade every single day, really it didn't look

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>looked fun And yeah, like Allen said, when he finished,

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like he went through some pretty tough stuff to

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 1>finish that. So that's just amazing and how good he is.

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's Finnily. He actually looks like he had

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>more fun playing like that than he did when he

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>was playing great. You know, like he actually looked like

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>he really appreciated being there. Um as you said, acknowledged

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the Gallery's gave great interviews at the end of and

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>he there was a few years in the middle where

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't give you very much. I'm sure Allen you

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 1>were on the end of some of those quick little answers.

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>But I mean he was great at the end of

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>him want to stay and answer more questions, and just

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 1>he just seemed so happy to be playing golf, you know.

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess when you sort of you sit

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:03.719
<v Speaker 1>on the edge of the abyss, and when you get

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>back and you're actually at the Masters and you're playing golf,

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>it must feel pretty nice. So great to see him back.

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, who knows six months down, well, not six months,

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>what are he three? Three months down the road to

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>the old course. I mean, it's it's the course out

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>of every course in the world, that would probably engage

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>him even more than Augusta would. Um, he'll be incredibly

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>motivated to play well there. I mean that's arguably his

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>favorite place. Um, as Alan says, a much easier walk

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>he's got, he'll have a few more months of fitness

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>and rehab under his belt. I mean, he sort of.

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>He would have learned a lot this week, I'm sure

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 1>about how his game responds to how his body is,

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>and he wouldn't really known that. Augustus as challenging as

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 1>it gets for your body because you hit enough side

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 1>slopes and down slopes and tired all the time because

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>you're walking. And there couldn't be a harder place to

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>do what he just did than that. And the old

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>course is gonna be a little bit easier than that,

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and they'll have a couple more months, and um, you

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't put it past him to win around a place

0:30:57.240 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>like that because of his sense of history and place

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>in the game. So just go to see him back,

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>As Allen says him, I guess we we have to

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>watch every time he applies now because we don't have

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 1>many more times. We're gonna get a chance. Yeah, Yeah,

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Ryan equally impressed by the performance you put out. Yeah,

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I uh, and I just speak personally, I don't.

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would love to see him contend or whatever.

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't care because every time I he tease it up.

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I just appreciate that we all grew up and was

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 1>able to watch his dominance. You know. It's just kind

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>of reminds you that we're super lucky to all see

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the best of the best, like um, you know, Kyle

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Porter tweeted it before it's like he has no chance,

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:43.239
<v Speaker 1>and I agreed with Kyle. I just would to put

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>it out on Twitter. And I wouldn't ever question Tiger

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>because you never know. So do I think he's gonna

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>win again? I don't think so. But I would never

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>never like say it's crazy or uh, he has no chance.

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 1>But I just appreciate watching him because all of us

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>got to grow up and watch you know, in my opinion,

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the greatest golfer of all time, the most dominant for sure.

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Did you enjoy it last I loved it. I to

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>see him still have the you know, kind of the

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>soft skills right like his his wedges look sharp and

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>sharp enough right to kind of make the cot and

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>hang around. But when he said, you know, I wake

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>up every day with a new challenge, and I fight

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>the fight, and and to get that message to all

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>of us, not just as children, but but all of

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>us to kind of see what he's been through and

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>continue to answer the bell every day was really inspiring.

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, I will say I for a moment, I

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>was so worried for him that I was like, you know, buddy,

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>like if if you've done enough right, Like not that

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I was cheering for him to miss the cup, but

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>he was putting his body through so much we'll never know, right,

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>like the pain he went through. But it was so

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>inspiring to see him gut it out and finish it,

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>and it looked very laborous that the end. For sure.

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I was left wondering, like, at at what point in

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>this process did he start to think, you know what,

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put it together again. I'm gonna play in

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>the Masters? You know. If somebody might have reported on

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 1>that or asked that and I missed it. But so

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>inspiring in and out of golf, I don't I can't

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>think of an athlete that's meant more in my lifetime

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>than Tiger. I think he eclipses Jordan's everyone he is

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>he is singular. I mean that that goes into the

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 1>crowds right to have it felt like the actual Masters

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 1>was back. I know we've had two since COVID and

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>they did a hell of a job getting tournaments together

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and being able to put something forward. But there was

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 1>nothing like being able to see those those shots, those

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>shots that caused those reactions that they could then play

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>that we could hear at different parts of the course

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>while someone else was plutting or chipping, to be able

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>to hear those role or it was like the first

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>time it felt like the Masters was back. Alan, What

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 1>was it like being out there? Yeah, you know the

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>obviously the November Masters, there was no fans last year

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 1>with the decie was limited. Those were runaways for the

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>most part, and so there there has been a dearth

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>of roars and you know John Ram touched on this.

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I think they let in more fans this year. It's

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:26.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of a way to make it up to folks

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>who have missed out the last two years. Like I

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>have never seen crowds like like Tiger had. This is

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 1>my twenty six Masters. They were the biggest ever because

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>even when he's winning tournaments on on Sundays, you know,

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>people would go and stake out their spots and some

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>people are in a man corner and some are waiting

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>around eighteen, but everybody followed Tiger. It was just this

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 1>this sense of like this this might be my last chance.

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>You never know, like this is living history and people

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>just want to reach out and touch them and metaphorically

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and just feel like they're part of it. So it

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>was electric. And to the point you guys are making

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 1>that there was it was you know, Tiger used to

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>inspire awe or uh, you know, emotions like that. This

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 1>was different. This was more like gratitude. People were just

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 1>so so happy to see him out there, and Tiger

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 1>exuded that, you know, he was it's almost giddy after

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 1>his rounds, Like Jeff mentioned the interviews, like he was

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>loose and funny and he had a huge smile plaster

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:20.800
<v Speaker 1>on his face and we know he was hurting. But

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 1>I think that's really the word going forward. It's just

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>he has tremendous gratitude to be back between the ropes

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and all of us feel that, you know, we're getting

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 1>this last act. We don't know what it's gonna look

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>like how long it's gonna last? And so these are

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>precious and it was just there was a different feeling

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 1>in the air from Tiger and everyone around him, and

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 1>it was really special. Jeff, the the you know, in

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>addition to crowd noise, and we touched about a little bit.

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 1>But and you said earlier in the week, they always

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 1>seemed to get it right. I myself really loved the

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.840
<v Speaker 1>dial back on eleven and yet keeping a couple of

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:57.360
<v Speaker 1>trees there the way the eleventh played, the way the

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 1>way the tenth eleventh played, and then twelve being other

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>than fifteen with the added yardage like there's no eagles

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and and created a lot of drama there. Have they

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 1>gotten it right? Yet? Again? Uh? They got I think

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>they got eleven mostly right because the eleven played like

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>eleven supposed to play right. Um, yeah, there'd be brave

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 1>and in a great shot like Cam did. If you didn't,

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:20.320
<v Speaker 1>you head out to the right and you had a

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:21.800
<v Speaker 1>tough up and down. That's kind of what eleven is

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>all about. You know, It's never really been about hit

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 1>the fair. It's about hit and unbelievably quality long iron shot.

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 1>If you don't, you gotta tough up and down and

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 1>that kind of works. Um. I think fifteen, To be honest,

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I think they got it a little bit wrong. Um.

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe they got unlucky that it played into

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the window week and it was really soft. I mean,

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 1>that was a lot of rain Tuesday Wednesday, and that

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 1>was an unbelievable my rain. I wouldn't be surprised if

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>there's five on the front of that tea next year

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>on just a little bit closer to the grain, maybe

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit higher in the air. I don't know,

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 1>maybe they want to give it a bit more time.

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 1>They usually always get it right. I mean when they

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>sort of two thousand and six when it got really

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>long and different, it seemed really tough there for a

0:36:57.560 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>couple of years, but it hav alted it like it

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 1>perfect again. They were ahead of the curve, you know,

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 1>in two thousands and six, even though it's sort of

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 1>still kept evolving since then. So they've got a lucky

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 1>with the whether they might give it another year on fifteen.

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Dustin hit I and then after all, and he's kind

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 1>of a benchmark for what people are going to be

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:16.359
<v Speaker 1>hitting it like in the future. You know, a more

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 1>average guys probably um, distance wise, So maybe they got

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>it right, and maybe if it was a bit firmer,

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>there would have been a few more some of the

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>three inns and two ones into the grain, which is

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:27.359
<v Speaker 1>really what I want to say you. So, I thought

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 1>fifteen really had a profound effect on the tournament, um

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 1>in a different way than it normally does. But as

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 1>you say, they always get it right, So I'm sure

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>that I'm sure it'll it'll turn back in though we

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:41.399
<v Speaker 1>see three out of four guys go for the green

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:43.439
<v Speaker 1>on Sunday like we always have before, I'm sure it'll

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>be there pretty soon. Let me say something about eleven, Jeff,

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 1>because you and I were talking about the trees that

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>poke out into the into the middle of the fairway. Now, Um,

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you saw Dustin's triple Bogian eleven today,

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.360
<v Speaker 1>but he drove it right. He's trying to thread it

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>through the trees and he joinked one. It went further right,

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and it was kind of what you call they would

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 1>create some fun recovery challenges, and um, you know it's

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 1>still aesthetically I have to get used to it, but

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I think you're correct here analysis that it's content guys

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.279
<v Speaker 1>to play shots and it's sometimes it's gonna bite them,

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of what you want. So I thought

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of a fun little PostScript to how

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:25.799
<v Speaker 1>Elevin Couder would play was watching dust and make a seven?

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>There Ryan, any thoughts on on the course or the crowd. Alright,

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I've been waiting for this moment from the beginning of

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>this spot. Okay, so for the people listening, but that

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>this is I'm gonna give you behind the scenes. Okay,

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Matt comes on and he tells us, Hey, we don't

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 1>want to talk over each other. Here's the order, and

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 1>we'll go through the order. And then he goes and

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:51.759
<v Speaker 1>then here's the subjects we want to cover, and he's

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 1>like Tiger Brooks and then he goes changes the fifteen

0:38:54.719 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm following Jeff fucking Ogilvie. Okay, the fucking redesigning

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 1>with Dina. What the funk am I gonna say right now?

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Why do you want me to say, Jeff Ogilvie, who's

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:11.479
<v Speaker 1>played in The Masters and has one of the best

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 1>design companies in the world, you'd like me to comment

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 1>after Jeff Ogilvie about what the changes look like? At

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Augusta Nash Hey, uh yeah, I got nothing to fucking say.

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Ogilvie just said everything. How about the crowd, how

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 1>about you can come out of the traffic. I mean,

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:32.359
<v Speaker 1>this is what people must have felt like following Eddie

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:35.839
<v Speaker 1>Murphy stand up, like, oh yeah, Ryan, what about right?

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 1>What does he think about the changes that Jeff, That's

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>what I think. I'll defer to Jeff Ogilvin. He lies

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Ryan French, he agrees with Jeff. Yeah this is gonna

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>shocking map. But I'll counter Jeff. I think I think, um,

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it's okay to have a par five that

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that you're not necessarily going to have a six iron

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.479
<v Speaker 1>into with today's ball and club. I think the fact

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.399
<v Speaker 1>that when you do lay up to you know, say

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 1>nine hundred yards, it's a tough yard shot. I think

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:19.320
<v Speaker 1>when the two people who were really playing for the

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>title ultimately got to fifteen, they both went for it

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:25.320
<v Speaker 1>into and obviously Cam Smith at the green and and

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, Scotty was just over and hit

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 1>a very underrated shot to to play to the hole there.

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 1>But um, I liked the whole lot. I enjoyed watching it.

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>It was very curious to see Scotty actually go for

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.919
<v Speaker 1>it from where he was. He pumped a really good drive.

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I think he had like to forty left and maybe

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 1>as adrenaline, but man, what a what an aggressive play

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 1>there instead of laying up to to say, you know,

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 1>ninety yards there. But um, for me, like, I'm still

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:02.479
<v Speaker 1>loving the fact that you know, they're showing so much

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 1>of I think the cameras are better, right, Like you

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 1>see the Venice cam kind of bring out colors and

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:12.280
<v Speaker 1>contours and I never really appreciated like the mounding around

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>two and how that whole plays until this year. I think, um,

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the wind was was really a factor early on and

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 1>how the holes played. But it I enjoyed it. And

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, some people, you know, like you two, some

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 1>people don't write like it's just it's all it's all art.

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:35.080
<v Speaker 1>It's just kind of opinions. But I enjoyed watching it. Well,

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Mattley just jump in here, because Scotty talked about fifteen.

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:42.359
<v Speaker 1>He said he specifically did not want that wedge shot.

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:45.239
<v Speaker 1>He was like, yeah, he was like avoiding the wedge shot.

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 1>That's why he went for the green. And it kind

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:48.799
<v Speaker 1>of makes sense because if you go for the green

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:50.399
<v Speaker 1>and you're hitting the water, you can still make five.

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>But if you lay up and you're hitting the water,

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>now you're in real trouble because you're not gonna make

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 1>five and you after that wedg shot again from where

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>you just you just rinsed it. So, um, I think

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.360
<v Speaker 1>that's any interesting calculus like we have. That's maybe the

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 1>hardest wind shot in golf, along with four team at

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Pebble Beach, and people are gonna actually just trying to

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.359
<v Speaker 1>avoid the layoup if they can. So it's a whole

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>other calculus. Now to final comments Jeff as the degree

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 1>of difficulty that third shot into fifteen might be the

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:24.800
<v Speaker 1>hardest WED shot in the world. Um. A little easier

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:26.440
<v Speaker 1>to today's pin on the right hand side, but the

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>ones on the left. Scottie. I was always like, Scottie,

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 1>if I could get it there over the water into,

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I'd get it over the water into. You do not.

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.839
<v Speaker 1>That's the start. It's an incredibly difficult WED shot down

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>slope ball above the feet. You've got about two or

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:39.880
<v Speaker 1>three to landed in or bounced over the back of

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:42.839
<v Speaker 1>spins off the front. M So yeah, look at little

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>of all perfect fifteen. It's a great hole. Um yeah,

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 1>it look great, but it's always good enot the master's fun,

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 1>um crazy weather. It always seems to finish in the

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 1>sunshine on Someday afternoon. Done at the right time, somehow,

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.680
<v Speaker 1>it just finishes. Drama came out of a tournament in

0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the tourroom where really the leader wouldn't have much drama,

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 1>but we still had a lot of dry learn a

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of noise, and Colin and Rory got everyone e

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 1>started on the last and um tag applied, which, as

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Alan said, I'd never say an atmosphere. And when he

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 1>walked out onto that tell you on Monday for the

0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 1>practice round, I've never felt anything like that. That was

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 1>just outrageous um energy for a Monday, non holl practice round.

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Um the Gulf world is just a better place when

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>he's plying, you know, so um fantastic, enjoyed it can't

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.800
<v Speaker 1>wait for next year, all right, Jeff, thanks again for

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:29.960
<v Speaker 1>joining us this week. Appreciate all the commentary and insight

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and perspective and look forward to two more from you

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 1>down the road here at the fire Pick Collective. So

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:41.800
<v Speaker 1>thanks again, all right, sun Yeah, Ryan, final thoughts, Thank you.

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I promise I will never it was awesome. Masters was wonderful.

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.720
<v Speaker 1>The fact that I'm on a podcast with Jeff Ogilvie

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and Elliship in last of course, it's crazy. The fact

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>that you came to me about the design question after

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Ogilvy is gonna really keep me up tonight. So

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:02.320
<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me. Last final thought, I loved it.

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 1>It was a great week and really enjoyed the fire

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<v Speaker 1>drills that were coming in from the team that was

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Those are so fun to listen to. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think I've ever been more excited

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<v Speaker 1>for an Open Championship as I am for what's what's

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully going to be coming for us at St. Andrew's,

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<v Speaker 1>which is more Tiger. Yeah, and look forward to more

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<v Speaker 1>grassroots podcast from you and the Jet Throw in the

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<v Speaker 1>next few weeks. Looking forward to that and congratulations on

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<v Speaker 1>the launch of that Ryan. More from you from the

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<v Speaker 1>grind Alan final thoughts, Well, it was It's an important victory,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like Scottish Effler got the number one so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>There was there was people questioning his bona fides, but

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<v Speaker 1>he um, he's really taken control of the Gulf. World's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to believe. He was a twelfth man on the

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<v Speaker 1>Ryder Cup team just in September, and um, now he's

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<v Speaker 1>the man. It's incredible performance. I can't wait to see

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<v Speaker 1>where he goes from here. You know, he has a

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<v Speaker 1>real star quality in its game. And yeah, the Master

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<v Speaker 1>just always delivers no matter what, uh, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>why we anticipated so much. It just it just always

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<v Speaker 1>brings it. And there was another memorable one and now

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<v Speaker 1>it's on the Southern Hills, which is not his epic

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<v Speaker 1>of venue, but it is gonna be fascinating its own way.

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<v Speaker 1>And Tiger is still in play for that one. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a maybe we have to wait to what happens with Phil.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, There's Master was great and now now the

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<v Speaker 1>now the drune beat to Southern Hills begins, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be Uh, that's gonna be a really intriguing me

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<v Speaker 1>your championship. Appreciate you guys, Appreciate your time, Appreciate the listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for tuning in, and we'll talk against him. Another

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<v Speaker 1>log on the Fire Nobody Heat