Speaker 1: Walking up the third t I didn't think Scotty could
Speaker 1: win the Masters. It just didn't feel like that. It
Speaker 1: just like felt like Cam was on it and I've
Speaker 1: never seen anyone down there on the third and then
Speaker 1: Um makes it chips and he flubs it really and
Speaker 1: then makes an unbelievable shot. It's a really brave shot
Speaker 1: that bumping it up that stope. It's really steep turn
Speaker 1: to make that, and walking off the third groin, it
Speaker 1: didn't feel like he could lose it, you know, like,
Speaker 1: in about a two minute stretch, it went from like
Speaker 1: this is really sad for Scotty to like, wow, he's
Speaker 1: just gonna it. Just felt the energy and the whole
Speaker 1: thing to me changed completely. Another log on the fire,
Speaker 1: Nobody here is give the time. All right, Here we
Speaker 1: are the final fire drill of the Masters, and what
Speaker 1: a week it has been. Obviously, Alan, you wrote yesterday
Speaker 1: that if Scotty Cheffer went out and shot seventy two
Speaker 1: and one, a star would be born. You shoot seventy one,
Speaker 1: even with a four point on eighteen, and thus you know,
Speaker 1: wins the Masters, his fourth fourth win in six starts. Truly,
Speaker 1: it seems to be obvious that a star is born. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what an incredible performance. You know, all week long kind
Speaker 1: of followed the speed Temple of two thousand fifteen. I mean,
Speaker 1: just played it lights out for thirty six holes, built
Speaker 1: a big lead, fought like hell on Saturday was really
Speaker 1: tough day, and then just you know, met the moment
Speaker 1: on Sunday. I mean, so many incredible up and downs.
Speaker 1: Obviously the one on three will will join the the
Speaker 1: pantheon of Master's highlights forever. But I mean he was
Speaker 1: incredible with his wedge. I actually called Ben Crenshaw in
Speaker 1: the middle of the round and he was just raving
Speaker 1: about do you see all these shots? He's hitting high ones,
Speaker 1: low one, spinning ones. You know, he was. He was
Speaker 1: really into it, and but of course you knew he
Speaker 1: also he drove it really well when he had to,
Speaker 1: and I got a little tense there. You when Rory
Speaker 1: hold out on eighteen, there was just a sense like,
Speaker 1: oh boy, let's let's see how how Scott. You know,
Speaker 1: he'd already slayed camp Smith, and then it's like, how
Speaker 1: is he going to react to this one? And then
Speaker 1: you know, I almost knocked the Flaxi down fourteen and
Speaker 1: really bold second shot on the fifteen, and those birdies
Speaker 1: just kind of iced it. So you know, he's a
Speaker 1: player with no weaknesses, like that's what makes him so dangerous.
Speaker 1: And that was really on display of just a great
Speaker 1: all around performance and you know it pretty I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys watched the press conference, he killed
Speaker 1: in there. He's just such a likable, humble, kind of
Speaker 1: sweet kids so I think, Yeah, I think the golfing
Speaker 1: public is cana fall in love with him. Jeff, what
Speaker 1: are your what are your thoughts on what you saw
Speaker 1: this week? Yeah? I mean, no one really was. He
Speaker 1: was number one in the world, he's the most hot
Speaker 1: flyer and golf oh year. Really and no one really
Speaker 1: picked him today. Everyone was picking every somebody else. No
Speaker 1: one really believed he could keep doing it. But when
Speaker 1: you watch what we saw the last four days, it's
Speaker 1: kind of why I didn't wait. How obvious was it really?
Speaker 1: I mean, the two form plans the year Cam and
Speaker 1: Scott in the last group, it seems to happen a lot.
Speaker 1: We always ignore the form, but it's always it pops up. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he looked really ropey those last three holes yesterday,
Speaker 1: it looked with the last three holes Saturday, and then
Speaker 1: the first two or three, the way it was going through,
Speaker 1: walking up the third t, I didn't think Scotty could
Speaker 1: win the Masters. It just didn't feel like that. It
Speaker 1: just like felt like Cam was on it and Um,
Speaker 1: Cam menaport tea shot, but it looked like he could
Speaker 1: get away over it down there, and then Scotty, I've
Speaker 1: never seen anyone down there on the third and then
Speaker 1: Um makes it the chips and he flubs it really
Speaker 1: and then makes an unbelievable shot. It's a really brave
Speaker 1: shot that bumping it up that stope. It's really steep
Speaker 1: to to make that, and walking off the third grain
Speaker 1: and didn't feel like he could lose it, you know,
Speaker 1: like in about a two minute stretch, it went from
Speaker 1: like this is really sad for Scotty, like wow, he's
Speaker 1: just gonna it. Just felt the energy and the whole
Speaker 1: thing to me changed completely Um. And then after that
Speaker 1: it was just he just put on a clinic. If
Speaker 1: had to close out of time, it really didn't he
Speaker 1: like if he missed a shot. He had a good
Speaker 1: enough pitch and made a good Um. He had a
Speaker 1: really good put on eleven. I thought was an incredible
Speaker 1: part on top of Camp's Bertie Um and then twelve
Speaker 1: sort of bit cam like it does. It's been a
Speaker 1: lot of people before and he finished stuff. Well. Rory
Speaker 1: was fun to watch. I mean it's become a bit
Speaker 1: of a pattern and that it's sort of plays them
Speaker 1: tough out of it and then comes home fast. And
Speaker 1: he's always the best player in the field at the
Speaker 1: end of the tournament, Rory, but he just does too
Speaker 1: much damage at the start. But that was fun to watch,
Speaker 1: fund to watch him play a team there. That was
Speaker 1: kind of like if you if Rory finishing second of
Speaker 1: the Master is never gonna make him happy unless he
Speaker 1: finishes it like that. You know, he's walking out pretty boy,
Speaker 1: that's a pretty fun way to finish second, you know.
Speaker 1: So um that might sort of, I don't know, get
Speaker 1: him coming back next year a bit low, sort of
Speaker 1: happier just because of the way it also have ended.
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna have some pretty good memories of this.
Speaker 1: So it's not over for Rory yet there Colin Colin
Speaker 1: can't help but finished top five in Majors um incredible player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great week, fantastic. I mean it's sort of for a
Speaker 1: for a Masters that generally they're usually clothe us, but
Speaker 1: for one that finishes with a where they could he
Speaker 1: had a full part and he could still have had
Speaker 1: three more parts of still one. Um, it was an
Speaker 1: incredibly it was an interesting master to watch when it
Speaker 1: was a great Sunday, even though it wasn't really ever close. Yeah, Ryan,
Speaker 1: what what what's your sense of Scottie Scheffler? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean obviously going to be a star. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: I think, uh they talked a little bit about it
Speaker 1: on the broadcast, but I mean Ted Scott has obviously
Speaker 1: brought the guys on. They seemed very very comfortable together. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean the guys alleged did a lot with Bubba obviously,
Speaker 1: and I just I mean I was watching their interactions.
Speaker 1: It seems like very loose and obviously they haven't been
Speaker 1: together that long. So and obviously the results uh speak
Speaker 1: for themselves. And to bring it back to Monday qualifiers,
Speaker 1: which I always tried my best to do. Uh two
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen, uh Utah Championship Corn Furry UM Champion Corn
Speaker 1: Furry Tour. Uh wells Ela Torus and Scottie Scheffler bullshot
Speaker 1: sixty six US by two, and uh you know I
Speaker 1: couldn't get it done. The next week, Scotty Monday qualified
Speaker 1: and then missed the cut at the corn Furry event.
Speaker 1: But they've done pretty well since then. Two of the
Speaker 1: UH two or whatever will finished like fifth or something
Speaker 1: like that. So I always watch out for Monday. Is
Speaker 1: always the best players are at Monday's event at some
Speaker 1: point in their career. I should I should mention that. Obviously,
Speaker 1: imagine Ella this, Alan Schipnuk let us off. Jeff Ogilvie
Speaker 1: was second Ryan French of Monday q Info and host
Speaker 1: of the Grind podcast is with Us as well, and
Speaker 1: now Las Versias, host of Grassroots with Legettro Jenkins also
Speaker 1: joins us. Last, what's your sense of what you saw
Speaker 1: this week from Scotty Scheffler. I think back to Scotty's
Speaker 1: dad when he became number one in the world, and
Speaker 1: he hugged Scotty and said, as great as a golf
Speaker 1: for you are, you're a better person. And the reason
Speaker 1: I think about that is because I think every at
Speaker 1: he watching, you know, he was like the best friend
Speaker 1: that that you want to hang out with when you
Speaker 1: go back home from college. He's just kind of that guy.
Speaker 1: A friend of mine worked at Olympia Fields in just
Speaker 1: outside of Chicago in when they had the Junior Ryder Cup,
Speaker 1: and the first thing he told me about it was
Speaker 1: the Scottie Scheffler kid is the nicest person on the
Speaker 1: planet and he's one heck of a player. Keep an
Speaker 1: eye out for him. So as a person, you gotta
Speaker 1: love that. It was interesting to see that he was
Speaker 1: always he answered the bell quite a bit, he put
Speaker 1: the ball in some awkward positions off the first he
Speaker 1: today was left. He had a really courageous punch and
Speaker 1: that was a heck of an up and down and
Speaker 1: you know, Cam goes Birdie Birdie Adam right out of
Speaker 1: the gate. So I was impressed with his ability to
Speaker 1: stay in the moment and and to have that composure.
Speaker 1: And when you look back at people that when the masters,
Speaker 1: very rarely do people make a double bogey, and when
Speaker 1: the masters you it's a generous course in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways that you've got to control your ball. And
Speaker 1: you didn't see Scotty make one until the four part
Speaker 1: on eighteen, So an amazing job of composure of just
Speaker 1: kind of being yourself and being prepared to see him
Speaker 1: on the range so late after each round, hitting balls
Speaker 1: deep into the night. Um, you know, as I questioned it, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you know my body couldn't handle that. But clearly,
Speaker 1: you know he has a game plan. It's kind of
Speaker 1: steeped and remaining positive being in the moment, and and
Speaker 1: it delivered, and it's been delivering for one heck of
Speaker 1: a hot month here, So real grateful to have him
Speaker 1: in the game. Yeah, And in fairness, I mean he
Speaker 1: did get the better end of the draw playing in
Speaker 1: the last group on Friday after the wind laid down
Speaker 1: for that for a big portion of that late afternoon,
Speaker 1: which had to help. So he was he was putting
Speaker 1: out last the last three days of the Masters, which
Speaker 1: also led to late night you know, late evening rain sessions.
Speaker 1: But Alan, what's what's your sense of Cam and and
Speaker 1: his performance coming off a player's championship and and and
Speaker 1: what he could till as his point, Scotty to be
Speaker 1: one under through four or five holes there today, he
Speaker 1: could have easily been four over, And I think that's
Speaker 1: really ended up being the way he wanted, was salvaging
Speaker 1: something early on and getting that chip in and turning.
Speaker 1: But Cam kept coming at him and until twelve there
Speaker 1: was still there was still very much a tournament going
Speaker 1: on for sure, although I'm not sure Camp never totally
Speaker 1: recover from the third hole. I mean it looked like,
Speaker 1: you know, cam Smith has maybe the best short game
Speaker 1: in Gulf, and he's thinking, all right, well, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get up and down. He's not. We're gonna be We're
Speaker 1: gonna be tired, and instead he walked off, you know,
Speaker 1: three behind. It was. It was such a gut punch
Speaker 1: and he could never close the gap. He never got
Speaker 1: closer than three strokes, and uh, you know it was
Speaker 1: hard to watch because he out at twelve. He kind
Speaker 1: of lost the plot a little bit. It was just
Speaker 1: you know, tossing the club and his body language and
Speaker 1: he just looked so be And that's what this course does.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Jeff was talking about the energy
Speaker 1: and the excitement of the finish and that's what the
Speaker 1: Masters are known for. But there's a dark side of that.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of broken hearts and a lot of
Speaker 1: broken spirits, and that's part of what makes it so poignant.
Speaker 1: You know that you think about you know, Phil Phil
Speaker 1: Mikinson's spot to win, but that that image of Ernie's
Speaker 1: sitting there, you know, eating the apple. He never really
Speaker 1: recovered from that, it felt like, at least not at
Speaker 1: this particular venue. And um, camp Smith is so talented.
Speaker 1: He obviously he's played, he has. This is his fourth
Speaker 1: top ten the last five Masters. I mean, it seems
Speaker 1: Taylor made for him. But you know that something like
Speaker 1: would happen to him at twelve leaves the bruise. I mean,
Speaker 1: think about about speech and he hasn't be able to
Speaker 1: get it done here since since he cracked up in
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen. And it's just that was hard
Speaker 1: to watch and I felt for him. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think we all love camp Smith. He's a he's a
Speaker 1: likable bloke and he's just fun to watch and all that.
Speaker 1: But um, he you know, he's just the latest have
Speaker 1: his heartbroken by a gust a national. What do you think, Jeff,
Speaker 1: what do you what are your thoughts on Cam in
Speaker 1: his future? Massive future? I mean, he's such a dedicated guy,
Speaker 1: and he's sort of as serious as he looks in
Speaker 1: those last feear out of those Majors, as good as
Speaker 1: he looks, and is determined and sort of calm. He's
Speaker 1: pretty loose and relaxed. Off the course. You know, he
Speaker 1: doesn't take it all too seriously once he gets off
Speaker 1: the course. He's a sort of guy who'll get over
Speaker 1: this a little bit more than I think others. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean, twelve gets if you play the Masters long enough,
Speaker 1: twelve is going to get you. I mean, it doesn't
Speaker 1: happen to thankfully, it doesn't happen to everyone on a Sunday,
Speaker 1: but it's going to get you at some point. I
Speaker 1: think you will learn from He's a sort of guy
Speaker 1: who'll sort of shake that off and he'll be leaving
Speaker 1: with He'll be leaving feeling like he can win the Masters,
Speaker 1: almost more than he would have been any other one,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He doubled the first on Thursday,
Speaker 1: double the last on Thursday. He had a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff go wrong. I mean, to Allen's point, the third
Speaker 1: was just a massive It was the biggest momentum shift
Speaker 1: I think I've ever seen in a seven year old tournament.
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it ever. Um. It was
Speaker 1: a match play, like you know, because it really kind
Speaker 1: of was those two unless someone else did something crazy. Um,
Speaker 1: and he he had an unbelievbal shot at four that
Speaker 1: just missed by a couple of yards, you know, Um,
Speaker 1: and did well and twelve got him and he did
Speaker 1: look pretty rattled the next couple of holes. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I haven't been in exactly that situation, but I think
Speaker 1: anyone who's played long enough knows what he felt like.
Speaker 1: And he wanted to be anywhere but the golf course
Speaker 1: WoT down thirteen. I mean, all the air comes out
Speaker 1: of your balloon. I mean he's been thinking about this
Speaker 1: tournament for twelve months. Realistically, he's been grinding for it
Speaker 1: since probably after the British Open last year. Every practice
Speaker 1: session he's had for the last two or three months
Speaker 1: has been about this, and so there there's a lot
Speaker 1: of air in your balloon when you get here, and
Speaker 1: when it all gets taken out in one hole, Um,
Speaker 1: it's pretty hard to sort of keep very equilibrium for
Speaker 1: a couple of holes. But but he fifteen sixty was
Speaker 1: pretty like he could have just drifted off and finished
Speaker 1: in an ambulance. But yeah, a strong, good guy. He
Speaker 1: walked off with a smile in his face, I think
Speaker 1: a raw smile. But I think he'll be back. I mean,
Speaker 1: we saw that about a lot of guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: why would have thought Rory hasn't won one yet, but um,
Speaker 1: Cam looks as good as anyone. I mean, he's going
Speaker 1: to be in the discnversation that every year when we
Speaker 1: come to this stuff anement. Well, let let me just
Speaker 1: say something real quick about the seventh hole too, because
Speaker 1: you know, as you know Jeff, that's that green's kind
Speaker 1: of blind from the fairway. So both him and Scotty
Speaker 1: hit great shots. The crowd went crazy and camp sing, right,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll pick one up here, and you get up
Speaker 1: to the green and Scotty's inside of him. He's like,
Speaker 1: what do I have to do to shake this guy?
Speaker 1: You know? That was that was a big moment um
Speaker 1: and also for step player to play the first seven
Speaker 1: and to wonder he knocked out almost everybody else who
Speaker 1: had dreams of you know, maybe he'll come back and
Speaker 1: so I'll go low like that start by Shuffler really
Speaker 1: created so much daylight between him and the rest of
Speaker 1: the field, so that that seventh hole I think, um,
Speaker 1: it's a little overshadow about happened number three, But I
Speaker 1: thought seven was was big too, because again Cam gave
Speaker 1: him as best shot, and you know, Scotty's got a
Speaker 1: tough chin. He just took it and gave it right back. Ryan,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Cam? Yeah, I'll take it
Speaker 1: a little bit from a different angle. I think golf
Speaker 1: needs characters and there's not enough of them. I mean,
Speaker 1: Scotty's obviously super talented, but you know, he's very buttoned
Speaker 1: down quiet, and Cam has like the mullet and the
Speaker 1: mustache and you know, like it's very like open and
Speaker 1: uh says what he wants an interview is kind of
Speaker 1: rory like, and uh, I think I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's obviously talented to get to be there forever and
Speaker 1: it seems like, like Jeff and Allen said, it's only
Speaker 1: a matter of time until he wins one. But I
Speaker 1: just love the character side of him. I think golf
Speaker 1: needs needs more. Uh. Jim Smith's for sure, and Uh,
Speaker 1: I mean I just really like him, huge fan that
Speaker 1: it's impossible not to like him, impossible. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: he's I talked to Peter Bessie about this right like.
Speaker 1: There was an image that came up on the screen,
Speaker 1: a little graphic that said Cam Smith would be the
Speaker 1: second Australian to win the Masters. In a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: he would kind of be the first. And I say
Speaker 1: that because there's kind of this tall poppy syndrome that
Speaker 1: we we kind of equate with Australian culture and where
Speaker 1: someone like Norman that wants to be celebrated, that wants
Speaker 1: to have, you know, all the adoration not necessarily well
Speaker 1: received in Australia. And I'm sure Jeff's familiar with the
Speaker 1: tall poppy syndrome I talk about. But two, think about
Speaker 1: cam start. He had bookend double bogies the first round
Speaker 1: and squeezed eight berties on the remaining sixteen holes. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: And then today he comes out Bertie Birdie, just out
Speaker 1: of the gate, just a fighter. And I really would
Speaker 1: love to know the line that he went with on
Speaker 1: number twelve. I think he hit nine iron and I'd
Speaker 1: be stunned if he was more than ten feet left
Speaker 1: of the flag in his mind when he when he
Speaker 1: took the club back. But I love watching him play.
Speaker 1: He's now tied for third and tied for second in
Speaker 1: the Masters. His ball flight fits well there, his attitude
Speaker 1: fits well there. His sense of drama and showing up
Speaker 1: in these moments obviously works for him there. So I
Speaker 1: think he's a guy that you know, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: a lot of in the future and hopefully you know,
Speaker 1: a green jacket Augusta Jeff, give you a chance to
Speaker 1: respond to whatever poppy syndrome is or whatever Las is
Speaker 1: talking about the figure we should probably go to the
Speaker 1: Australian for the Australian inside. Wow. I mean it is
Speaker 1: kind of true we bring out complete legends down a
Speaker 1: little bit because we don't want to be get ahead
Speaker 1: of themselves. Right, It's a natural thing and it's kind
Speaker 1: of a bit unfortunate when it comes to like golf
Speaker 1: stars and stuff, but I would agree. I mean, Scotty
Speaker 1: was the first AZZI obviously and it was really amazing.
Speaker 1: But Cam is the most Australian Australian golfer. You know.
Speaker 1: He is all aussy. Every Australian can relate to whim.
Speaker 1: We've all got friends like him. He's like the guy
Speaker 1: you're meeting the pub, you know, and have a good
Speaker 1: Emma beer and a good chat with. So um. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: he's the most Australian and Australian to be out there
Speaker 1: for sure. He's like Shane Lowry of Australians, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Irish of Irish. I have to ask Jeff something
Speaker 1: because one of the things I do on Sundays I'll
Speaker 1: go catch the early finishers and just get some thoughts
Speaker 1: about the leaders, so I have more material. I'm looking
Speaker 1: for anecdotes and quotes and stuff. And so I caught
Speaker 1: Adam Scott by the clubhouse and we were talking about
Speaker 1: Cam and he was great, and he said, he's, um,
Speaker 1: a bogan Is that that right? Is that the right term? Yeah? Bog?
Speaker 1: And yeah, bit of a bug and yeah, And I
Speaker 1: was and I suppose that He's like, oh, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to look it up me. And after Cam drifted away,
Speaker 1: I never googled that. Can you explain to us what
Speaker 1: a bogan is? Because apparently it's like a big thing
Speaker 1: with Really it's kind of it's a lovable sort of
Speaker 1: term for red nicky, what trashy kind of you know,
Speaker 1: like just really it's just but it's lovable, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like in that really good spirit, you know, just
Speaker 1: like loud cut, loud cut a crazy crazy haircuts. But
Speaker 1: if you know a bugging, you know a bug And
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, okay, that's awesome. I'm gonna use that
Speaker 1: another time. That's he's Camp. It's Cam, the cable guy
Speaker 1: is basically what, yeah, a little bit, a little bittally
Speaker 1: totally Um, all right, let's let's just quick whip around
Speaker 1: on on Rory before we get to Tiger. But I
Speaker 1: mean again, uh, seventy three, seventy one, boom sixty four,
Speaker 1: back door second place Masters leaving with the smiless face. Jeff,
Speaker 1: you've already kind of touched upon it. But Alan, what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Rory? I mean Rory, he's well,
Speaker 1: he's got the most frustrating golfer in history. Like he's
Speaker 1: on an absolute heater. He can do no wrong. He
Speaker 1: is destroying gust the national and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he creeps up enough where he might actually have a chance.
Speaker 1: You know, everyone's doing the math. Okay, if you can,
Speaker 1: if you can get three more coming in and kind
Speaker 1: of course, you know, fifteen, which is not an easy hole,
Speaker 1: but it's definitely an opportunity. One of the greatest drivers
Speaker 1: of the golf ball ever yanked dead left, makes a
Speaker 1: disappointing part. Go to sixteen, which we all know is attackable,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of in a different shot. And that
Speaker 1: was and then then at that moment, you know that.
Speaker 1: That's when when Scotty kind of regrouped in sky Scheffler
Speaker 1: and and step you know, Stephan Aboy's neck. But there
Speaker 1: was a little brief moment where Rory had a chance
Speaker 1: to make it really interesting and he knew it and
Speaker 1: those are like his first bad swings of the day.
Speaker 1: You know, he just kind of you know, he's free
Speaker 1: wheeling and just chasing and having fun and almost I
Speaker 1: was like, holy shit, have a chance, like I have
Speaker 1: a chance to win the Masters. And then started at
Speaker 1: the ball side was was and so it was it
Speaker 1: was vexing as always. I mean, the highlight in eighteen,
Speaker 1: of course was was fabulous and uh CBS replayed it
Speaker 1: like twenty times because they were just trying to fill
Speaker 1: air time and it'll it'll live on and it was.
Speaker 1: It was a great moment for sure, and a great shot.
Speaker 1: But at that point, you know, uh, he just he
Speaker 1: like he'd squandered some really important chances on the back
Speaker 1: nine and probably wasn't have mattered. But you know, let's
Speaker 1: let's say Rory makes makes a three or four on
Speaker 1: fifteen and stuff on sixteen, Shefflers are going to hear
Speaker 1: those roars and you don't know what's gonna happen behind them. Um,
Speaker 1: but it just wasn't meant to be. Now, obviously we're
Speaker 1: asking to play a perect round of golf. But when
Speaker 1: you start out seventy three, seventy three and you're Roy girl,
Speaker 1: you gotta played for a round of golf and you
Speaker 1: just didn't quite do it. It's so funny because it
Speaker 1: just seems like, well, Scheffler, you know, plays well here,
Speaker 1: and then Headeki plays well here, and Jordan's Peith plays
Speaker 1: well here, and cam Smith is definitely gonna win here
Speaker 1: next year, and but Rory looks like it's inevitable for
Speaker 1: him to win. Dj is always going to be a contender,
Speaker 1: Brooks plays well at the Major. The amount of people
Speaker 1: you can make a case for coming out of this week,
Speaker 1: and just sort of golf in general is always seems
Speaker 1: to be why we have these incredible masters on a
Speaker 1: regular basis. It's just it's the venue, and it's it's
Speaker 1: the star power and the and the drama of that
Speaker 1: of that. Certainly that second nine, Ryan, what are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on Rory and just sort of where do we
Speaker 1: go from here? Yeah? I mean Ellen, Ellen, Nil is
Speaker 1: like you feel like Rory just cannot get over that hump.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously sixty four on Sunday at the Masters
Speaker 1: by itself is unreal boot you know, a relatively easy
Speaker 1: uh you know wedge on fifteen. You know he thought
Speaker 1: he got a bad break but misses that button then
Speaker 1: you know all and said it on sixteen. He doesn't
Speaker 1: doesn't get It's just like he just creeps us to
Speaker 1: the edge of like he's gonna win the Masters, and
Speaker 1: then you know, crushes our souls. So I don't think
Speaker 1: there's anyone talked on Twitter who's had such an amazing
Speaker 1: career but more disappointingly than on than Rory McIlroy. I mean,
Speaker 1: the guy just gets hammered on Twitter. I'm a huge
Speaker 1: Rory fan, but he's always like just cheases us endlessly
Speaker 1: and uh another another year last is he is? He?
Speaker 1: Do you hammer him on Twitter like you hammer everybody
Speaker 1: else on Twitter? Yeah, but I'm back in on Rory
Speaker 1: at this point. Um. I you know, if you would
Speaker 1: have asked me as Rory ever going to win another major,
Speaker 1: I would have said no. Now I think he he will,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why. I think you know we've
Speaker 1: he did. He comes out of the gate with the birdie,
Speaker 1: and yes he's playing from the middle of the pack,
Speaker 1: so like we can say all that, right, but you know,
Speaker 1: on two he's got within, he's within one sixty on
Speaker 1: the par five makes a par unfortunately, but when he
Speaker 1: gets to the back, he showed me something with his wedges,
Speaker 1: the pitch and the vision and the line that he
Speaker 1: took on fourteen was amazing. He played it kind of
Speaker 1: high and left and let the contour bring the ball
Speaker 1: back to the hole. Obviously he holds out on eighteen.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him credit for that shot on fifteen
Speaker 1: because that's a really difficult shot with the ball below
Speaker 1: your feet and he he's a foot from that, kind
Speaker 1: of nestling back and taking the taking the hill back
Speaker 1: to be you know, three or four ft or so.
Speaker 1: He showed me a lot. Yeah, it would have been
Speaker 1: nice to if it had a better shot on sixteen.
Speaker 1: But I think I think he's found something in his
Speaker 1: heart and it's going to come out with the hunger,
Speaker 1: and I look forward to seeing more of that rory,
Speaker 1: uh than than the rory that you know he gets
Speaker 1: hammered for no the web the wedge on fifteen was solid.
Speaker 1: It is just to drive. I mean he had missed
Speaker 1: a drive all day. He led the field and driving
Speaker 1: just into three yards. I mean he was hitting his
Speaker 1: driver beautifully. And fifteen is like the do or die
Speaker 1: swinging of that round for him. You know, he's done
Speaker 1: the hard work to get himself a position. He just
Speaker 1: has to finish it. And you know that's just that
Speaker 1: Rory in a nutshell, Like he's there, he's on the precipice.
Speaker 1: If he if he can, if he can attack fifteen,
Speaker 1: like who knows what's going to happen? And nobody eagles
Speaker 1: fifteen this year, Alan, nobody right fifth day is completely
Speaker 1: giant to stay. It's a completely differ the hole now,
Speaker 1: like nobody went for the grain. Um, he had to
Speaker 1: try it along one day. Like I think you've been
Speaker 1: a little bit hard on the guy. I mean sixty
Speaker 1: four in the last round of the Master's um. The
Speaker 1: shot on sixteen, if it had landed two yards further,
Speaker 1: it was going to go stiff like it was. We've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of balls land where his ball landed,
Speaker 1: and they were next to the whole. I mean he
Speaker 1: got soft bounce, He landed a bit short. Um, he
Speaker 1: sprayed on seventeen and missed the eighth Graham. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like he finished off that round pretty
Speaker 1: well if asked me, I mean, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's they're not easy shots. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I always I've just left nothing but impress
Speaker 1: and just he knows he didn't lose the tournament today.
Speaker 1: He didn't lose it on fifteen, and he didn't lose
Speaker 1: it anywhere we're talking about. He lost on Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 1: So um, he's proven that when he's in front, he's good.
Speaker 1: He just has to find out how to get in front,
Speaker 1: you know, Like he's just going to get through Thursday
Speaker 1: and Friday and I think he's he'll have that place
Speaker 1: worked out. But um, you can't start ten back or
Speaker 1: where he started and realistically ever think you're gonna win
Speaker 1: the tournament. And if he had made two more birdies
Speaker 1: and got made it a bit more interesting, it would
Speaker 1: have been the most historic round of all time ever,
Speaker 1: Like he's two shots away from total history. So um,
Speaker 1: I don't know. People can get on Rory. It's really
Speaker 1: hard to do what he does, and everybody loves watching
Speaker 1: him play so as long as he keeps playing, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep watching and I'll always be a fan. So
Speaker 1: I love him. But when one I think he deserves
Speaker 1: a career Grand Slam as good as he is, Um,
Speaker 1: he's a as good as he is, he deserves it,
Speaker 1: I think. Well, I mean that that's a needed perspective.
Speaker 1: Thank you for bringing some sanity this conversation, Jeff. But
Speaker 1: and I did like what you said, like the way
Speaker 1: he left the course feeling triumphant. I think the Masters
Speaker 1: has felt a little oppressive to him, or a lot oppressive.
Speaker 1: And maybe this, this changes it. You know, that that
Speaker 1: lightness that he had and the joy, he hasn't felt
Speaker 1: that around here very much. So I mean, maybe we'll
Speaker 1: look back on this Sunday and this will be like
Speaker 1: a real important turning point. So who knows. Uh, let's
Speaker 1: all hope because it would be awesome to see it.
Speaker 1: It's like if you get to if he gets one
Speaker 1: green jacket, he might get for you know, like he
Speaker 1: just has to get the first one, so we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. Let's uh, let's let's quickly touch on Tiger
Speaker 1: one last time. You know, started getting hard to watch there,
Speaker 1: you know, through the throws of the weekend, just with
Speaker 1: the hobbling and wobbling and uh some of the shots.
Speaker 1: But you gotta, i mean granted yet another comeback that
Speaker 1: you know that was caused by his own doing obviously
Speaker 1: with with you know, wrecking a car um for whatever
Speaker 1: reason and and for however it happened. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you gotta tip your cap to
Speaker 1: this guy who who who who not only came back
Speaker 1: but made the cut and played all four rounds and
Speaker 1: continue to grind all the way through For me, I
Speaker 1: you know, I just I think, just when you think
Speaker 1: you've seen everything from this guy, he does yet another
Speaker 1: sort of unthinkable thing on the golf course and he
Speaker 1: did it again this week. Alan. Yeah, just another legendary
Speaker 1: performance in its own way. Um. You know, the get
Speaker 1: easier st Andrews, which he committed to playing in his
Speaker 1: in his post round comments is a much easier walking
Speaker 1: augusta National, a lot more time to prepare. He played
Speaker 1: just enough throwback shots to remind you that it's still there,
Speaker 1: like he's still going to find a way to do it,
Speaker 1: um and play efficiently. Um, certainly he was, you know,
Speaker 1: the rust and his putting showed on Saturday. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's probably the worst putting around we've ever seen from
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods at Augusta Nationals. He has been putting at home,
Speaker 1: but you can't replicate these slopes and these lines and
Speaker 1: these speeds, and you just have to play in tournaments
Speaker 1: on the PGA Tour to even have a chance. And so, um,
Speaker 1: the takeaway is that his will and his his grit,
Speaker 1: his determination is just never been equaled except for me
Speaker 1: by Ben Hogan. And um, he's still got he's still got,
Speaker 1: you know, some pretty magical hands and he'll he'll just
Speaker 1: find a way to manufacture a swing. So he's always
Speaker 1: gonna be dangerous on the right courses. And I think
Speaker 1: he proved that to himself. He can get through saving
Speaker 1: two holes. Now walking him a limp away from the
Speaker 1: clubhouse after he signed a scorecard, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: when the cameras are on him, he was trying to
Speaker 1: minimize it because of his pride, Like he was really
Speaker 1: really dragon and hurting when it was over and the
Speaker 1: adrenaline left his body and so but he did it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a milestone from he got through
Speaker 1: seving two holes and that that's the first test and
Speaker 1: he passed it and reminded the world and you know
Speaker 1: what Tiger Woods is, and it was it was a
Speaker 1: thrill to to get a taste of it. Especially that
Speaker 1: first round was just incredible. So it's gonna be exciting.
Speaker 1: What is Tiger Woods like? The energy this week? Those
Speaker 1: are one of the biggest crowds ever Augusta National and
Speaker 1: because usually they're spread out and across different holes, everybody
Speaker 1: on the course was falling Tiger and he's just he's
Speaker 1: a phenomenon. Jeff, I'm I'm sure you noticed watching throughout
Speaker 1: the week and weekend. I mean, there's just a noticeable
Speaker 1: humility to him that I've certainly never seen, acknowledging crowd
Speaker 1: thanking his team around him make it more about appreciating
Speaker 1: the appreciation more so than every ever before. Is that
Speaker 1: is that what you picked up on as well? Yeah, finally,
Speaker 1: And I mean there was obviously an incredible effort to
Speaker 1: do what he did, and like, I think we didn't
Speaker 1: really know how he felt, really, I mean we're guessing
Speaker 1: and we could go on what he says, but he
Speaker 1: don't really know. But like seeing him walk that off
Speaker 1: the eighth grade every single day, really it didn't look
Speaker 1: looked fun And yeah, like Allen said, when he finished,
Speaker 1: it's like he went through some pretty tough stuff to
Speaker 1: finish that. So that's just amazing and how good he is.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's Finnily. He actually looks like he had
Speaker 1: more fun playing like that than he did when he
Speaker 1: was playing great. You know, like he actually looked like
Speaker 1: he really appreciated being there. Um as you said, acknowledged
Speaker 1: the Gallery's gave great interviews at the end of and
Speaker 1: he there was a few years in the middle where
Speaker 1: he wouldn't give you very much. I'm sure Allen you
Speaker 1: were on the end of some of those quick little answers.
Speaker 1: But I mean he was great at the end of
Speaker 1: him want to stay and answer more questions, and just
Speaker 1: he just seemed so happy to be playing golf, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess when you sort of you sit
Speaker 1: on the edge of the abyss, and when you get
Speaker 1: back and you're actually at the Masters and you're playing golf,
Speaker 1: it must feel pretty nice. So great to see him back.
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows six months down, well, not six months,
Speaker 1: what are he three? Three months down the road to
Speaker 1: the old course. I mean, it's it's the course out
Speaker 1: of every course in the world, that would probably engage
Speaker 1: him even more than Augusta would. Um, he'll be incredibly
Speaker 1: motivated to play well there. I mean that's arguably his
Speaker 1: favorite place. Um, as Alan says, a much easier walk
Speaker 1: he's got, he'll have a few more months of fitness
Speaker 1: and rehab under his belt. I mean, he sort of.
Speaker 1: He would have learned a lot this week, I'm sure
Speaker 1: about how his game responds to how his body is,
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't really known that. Augustus as challenging as
Speaker 1: it gets for your body because you hit enough side
Speaker 1: slopes and down slopes and tired all the time because
Speaker 1: you're walking. And there couldn't be a harder place to
Speaker 1: do what he just did than that. And the old
Speaker 1: course is gonna be a little bit easier than that,
Speaker 1: and they'll have a couple more months, and um, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't put it past him to win around a place
Speaker 1: like that because of his sense of history and place
Speaker 1: in the game. So just go to see him back,
Speaker 1: As Allen says him, I guess we we have to
Speaker 1: watch every time he applies now because we don't have
Speaker 1: many more times. We're gonna get a chance. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ryan equally impressed by the performance you put out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I uh, and I just speak personally, I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would love to see him contend or whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't care because every time I he tease it up.
Speaker 1: I just appreciate that we all grew up and was
Speaker 1: able to watch his dominance. You know. It's just kind
Speaker 1: of reminds you that we're super lucky to all see
Speaker 1: the best of the best, like um, you know, Kyle
Speaker 1: Porter tweeted it before it's like he has no chance,
Speaker 1: and I agreed with Kyle. I just would to put
Speaker 1: it out on Twitter. And I wouldn't ever question Tiger
Speaker 1: because you never know. So do I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: win again? I don't think so. But I would never
Speaker 1: never like say it's crazy or uh, he has no chance.
Speaker 1: But I just appreciate watching him because all of us
Speaker 1: got to grow up and watch you know, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: the greatest golfer of all time, the most dominant for sure.
Speaker 1: Did you enjoy it last I loved it. I to
Speaker 1: see him still have the you know, kind of the
Speaker 1: soft skills right like his his wedges look sharp and
Speaker 1: sharp enough right to kind of make the cot and
Speaker 1: hang around. But when he said, you know, I wake
Speaker 1: up every day with a new challenge, and I fight
Speaker 1: the fight, and and to get that message to all
Speaker 1: of us, not just as children, but but all of
Speaker 1: us to kind of see what he's been through and
Speaker 1: continue to answer the bell every day was really inspiring.
Speaker 1: You know, I will say I for a moment, I
Speaker 1: was so worried for him that I was like, you know, buddy,
Speaker 1: like if if you've done enough right, Like not that
Speaker 1: I was cheering for him to miss the cup, but
Speaker 1: he was putting his body through so much we'll never know, right,
Speaker 1: like the pain he went through. But it was so
Speaker 1: inspiring to see him gut it out and finish it,
Speaker 1: and it looked very laborous that the end. For sure.
Speaker 1: I was left wondering, like, at at what point in
Speaker 1: this process did he start to think, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it together again. I'm gonna play in
Speaker 1: the Masters? You know. If somebody might have reported on
Speaker 1: that or asked that and I missed it. But so
Speaker 1: inspiring in and out of golf, I don't I can't
Speaker 1: think of an athlete that's meant more in my lifetime
Speaker 1: than Tiger. I think he eclipses Jordan's everyone he is
Speaker 1: he is singular. I mean that that goes into the
Speaker 1: crowds right to have it felt like the actual Masters
Speaker 1: was back. I know we've had two since COVID and
Speaker 1: they did a hell of a job getting tournaments together
Speaker 1: and being able to put something forward. But there was
Speaker 1: nothing like being able to see those those shots, those
Speaker 1: shots that caused those reactions that they could then play
Speaker 1: that we could hear at different parts of the course
Speaker 1: while someone else was plutting or chipping, to be able
Speaker 1: to hear those role or it was like the first
Speaker 1: time it felt like the Masters was back. Alan, What
Speaker 1: was it like being out there? Yeah, you know the
Speaker 1: obviously the November Masters, there was no fans last year
Speaker 1: with the decie was limited. Those were runaways for the
Speaker 1: most part, and so there there has been a dearth
Speaker 1: of roars and you know John Ram touched on this.
Speaker 1: I think they let in more fans this year. It's
Speaker 1: kind of a way to make it up to folks
Speaker 1: who have missed out the last two years. Like I
Speaker 1: have never seen crowds like like Tiger had. This is
Speaker 1: my twenty six Masters. They were the biggest ever because
Speaker 1: even when he's winning tournaments on on Sundays, you know,
Speaker 1: people would go and stake out their spots and some
Speaker 1: people are in a man corner and some are waiting
Speaker 1: around eighteen, but everybody followed Tiger. It was just this
Speaker 1: this sense of like this this might be my last chance.
Speaker 1: You never know, like this is living history and people
Speaker 1: just want to reach out and touch them and metaphorically
Speaker 1: and just feel like they're part of it. So it
Speaker 1: was electric. And to the point you guys are making
Speaker 1: that there was it was you know, Tiger used to
Speaker 1: inspire awe or uh, you know, emotions like that. This
Speaker 1: was different. This was more like gratitude. People were just
Speaker 1: so so happy to see him out there, and Tiger
Speaker 1: exuded that, you know, he was it's almost giddy after
Speaker 1: his rounds, Like Jeff mentioned the interviews, like he was
Speaker 1: loose and funny and he had a huge smile plaster
Speaker 1: on his face and we know he was hurting. But
Speaker 1: I think that's really the word going forward. It's just
Speaker 1: he has tremendous gratitude to be back between the ropes
Speaker 1: and all of us feel that, you know, we're getting
Speaker 1: this last act. We don't know what it's gonna look
Speaker 1: like how long it's gonna last? And so these are
Speaker 1: precious and it was just there was a different feeling
Speaker 1: in the air from Tiger and everyone around him, and
Speaker 1: it was really special. Jeff, the the you know, in
Speaker 1: addition to crowd noise, and we touched about a little bit.
Speaker 1: But and you said earlier in the week, they always
Speaker 1: seemed to get it right. I myself really loved the
Speaker 1: dial back on eleven and yet keeping a couple of
Speaker 1: trees there the way the eleventh played, the way the
Speaker 1: way the tenth eleventh played, and then twelve being other
Speaker 1: than fifteen with the added yardage like there's no eagles
Speaker 1: and and created a lot of drama there. Have they
Speaker 1: gotten it right? Yet? Again? Uh? They got I think
Speaker 1: they got eleven mostly right because the eleven played like
Speaker 1: eleven supposed to play right. Um, yeah, there'd be brave
Speaker 1: and in a great shot like Cam did. If you didn't,
Speaker 1: you head out to the right and you had a
Speaker 1: tough up and down. That's kind of what eleven is
Speaker 1: all about. You know, It's never really been about hit
Speaker 1: the fair. It's about hit and unbelievably quality long iron shot.
Speaker 1: If you don't, you gotta tough up and down and
Speaker 1: that kind of works. Um. I think fifteen, To be honest,
Speaker 1: I think they got it a little bit wrong. Um.
Speaker 1: I think maybe they got unlucky that it played into
Speaker 1: the window week and it was really soft. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was a lot of rain Tuesday Wednesday, and that
Speaker 1: was an unbelievable my rain. I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: there's five on the front of that tea next year
Speaker 1: on just a little bit closer to the grain, maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit higher in the air. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe they want to give it a bit more time.
Speaker 1: They usually always get it right. I mean when they
Speaker 1: sort of two thousand and six when it got really
Speaker 1: long and different, it seemed really tough there for a
Speaker 1: couple of years, but it hav alted it like it
Speaker 1: perfect again. They were ahead of the curve, you know,
Speaker 1: in two thousands and six, even though it's sort of
Speaker 1: still kept evolving since then. So they've got a lucky
Speaker 1: with the whether they might give it another year on fifteen.
Speaker 1: Dustin hit I and then after all, and he's kind
Speaker 1: of a benchmark for what people are going to be
Speaker 1: hitting it like in the future. You know, a more
Speaker 1: average guys probably um, distance wise, So maybe they got
Speaker 1: it right, and maybe if it was a bit firmer,
Speaker 1: there would have been a few more some of the
Speaker 1: three inns and two ones into the grain, which is
Speaker 1: really what I want to say you. So, I thought
Speaker 1: fifteen really had a profound effect on the tournament, um
Speaker 1: in a different way than it normally does. But as
Speaker 1: you say, they always get it right, So I'm sure
Speaker 1: that I'm sure it'll it'll turn back in though we
Speaker 1: see three out of four guys go for the green
Speaker 1: on Sunday like we always have before, I'm sure it'll
Speaker 1: be there pretty soon. Let me say something about eleven, Jeff,
Speaker 1: because you and I were talking about the trees that
Speaker 1: poke out into the into the middle of the fairway. Now, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw Dustin's triple Bogian eleven today,
Speaker 1: but he drove it right. He's trying to thread it
Speaker 1: through the trees and he joinked one. It went further right,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of what you call they would
Speaker 1: create some fun recovery challenges, and um, you know it's
Speaker 1: still aesthetically I have to get used to it, but
Speaker 1: I think you're correct here analysis that it's content guys
Speaker 1: to play shots and it's sometimes it's gonna bite them,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what you want. So I thought
Speaker 1: that was kind of a fun little PostScript to how
Speaker 1: Elevin Couder would play was watching dust and make a seven?
Speaker 1: There Ryan, any thoughts on on the course or the crowd. Alright,
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for this moment from the beginning of
Speaker 1: this spot. Okay, so for the people listening, but that
Speaker 1: this is I'm gonna give you behind the scenes. Okay,
Speaker 1: Matt comes on and he tells us, Hey, we don't
Speaker 1: want to talk over each other. Here's the order, and
Speaker 1: we'll go through the order. And then he goes and
Speaker 1: then here's the subjects we want to cover, and he's
Speaker 1: like Tiger Brooks and then he goes changes the fifteen
Speaker 1: and I'm following Jeff fucking Ogilvie. Okay, the fucking redesigning
Speaker 1: with Dina. What the funk am I gonna say right now?
Speaker 1: Why do you want me to say, Jeff Ogilvie, who's
Speaker 1: played in The Masters and has one of the best
Speaker 1: design companies in the world, you'd like me to comment
Speaker 1: after Jeff Ogilvie about what the changes look like? At
Speaker 1: Augusta Nash Hey, uh yeah, I got nothing to fucking say.
Speaker 1: Jeff Ogilvie just said everything. How about the crowd, how
Speaker 1: about you can come out of the traffic. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is what people must have felt like following Eddie
Speaker 1: Murphy stand up, like, oh yeah, Ryan, what about right?
Speaker 1: What does he think about the changes that Jeff, That's
Speaker 1: what I think. I'll defer to Jeff Ogilvin. He lies
Speaker 1: Ryan French, he agrees with Jeff. Yeah this is gonna
Speaker 1: shocking map. But I'll counter Jeff. I think I think, um,
Speaker 1: I think it's okay to have a par five that
Speaker 1: that you're not necessarily going to have a six iron
Speaker 1: into with today's ball and club. I think the fact
Speaker 1: that when you do lay up to you know, say
Speaker 1: nine hundred yards, it's a tough yard shot. I think
Speaker 1: when the two people who were really playing for the
Speaker 1: title ultimately got to fifteen, they both went for it
Speaker 1: into and obviously Cam Smith at the green and and
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, Scotty was just over and hit
Speaker 1: a very underrated shot to to play to the hole there.
Speaker 1: But um, I liked the whole lot. I enjoyed watching it.
Speaker 1: It was very curious to see Scotty actually go for
Speaker 1: it from where he was. He pumped a really good drive.
Speaker 1: I think he had like to forty left and maybe
Speaker 1: as adrenaline, but man, what a what an aggressive play
Speaker 1: there instead of laying up to to say, you know,
Speaker 1: ninety yards there. But um, for me, like, I'm still
Speaker 1: loving the fact that you know, they're showing so much
Speaker 1: of I think the cameras are better, right, Like you
Speaker 1: see the Venice cam kind of bring out colors and
Speaker 1: contours and I never really appreciated like the mounding around
Speaker 1: two and how that whole plays until this year. I think, um,
Speaker 1: the wind was was really a factor early on and
Speaker 1: how the holes played. But it I enjoyed it. And
Speaker 1: you know, some people, you know, like you two, some
Speaker 1: people don't write like it's just it's all it's all art.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of opinions. But I enjoyed watching it. Well,
Speaker 1: Mattley just jump in here, because Scotty talked about fifteen.
Speaker 1: He said he specifically did not want that wedge shot.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, he was like avoiding the wedge shot.
Speaker 1: That's why he went for the green. And it kind
Speaker 1: of makes sense because if you go for the green
Speaker 1: and you're hitting the water, you can still make five.
Speaker 1: But if you lay up and you're hitting the water,
Speaker 1: now you're in real trouble because you're not gonna make
Speaker 1: five and you after that wedg shot again from where
Speaker 1: you just you just rinsed it. So, um, I think
Speaker 1: that's any interesting calculus like we have. That's maybe the
Speaker 1: hardest wind shot in golf, along with four team at
Speaker 1: Pebble Beach, and people are gonna actually just trying to
Speaker 1: avoid the layoup if they can. So it's a whole
Speaker 1: other calculus. Now to final comments Jeff as the degree
Speaker 1: of difficulty that third shot into fifteen might be the
Speaker 1: hardest WED shot in the world. Um. A little easier
Speaker 1: to today's pin on the right hand side, but the
Speaker 1: ones on the left. Scottie. I was always like, Scottie,
Speaker 1: if I could get it there over the water into,
Speaker 1: I'd get it over the water into. You do not.
Speaker 1: That's the start. It's an incredibly difficult WED shot down
Speaker 1: slope ball above the feet. You've got about two or
Speaker 1: three to landed in or bounced over the back of
Speaker 1: spins off the front. M So yeah, look at little
Speaker 1: of all perfect fifteen. It's a great hole. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: it look great, but it's always good enot the master's fun,
Speaker 1: um crazy weather. It always seems to finish in the
Speaker 1: sunshine on Someday afternoon. Done at the right time, somehow,
Speaker 1: it just finishes. Drama came out of a tournament in
Speaker 1: the tourroom where really the leader wouldn't have much drama,
Speaker 1: but we still had a lot of dry learn a
Speaker 1: lot of noise, and Colin and Rory got everyone e
Speaker 1: started on the last and um tag applied, which, as
Speaker 1: Alan said, I'd never say an atmosphere. And when he
Speaker 1: walked out onto that tell you on Monday for the
Speaker 1: practice round, I've never felt anything like that. That was
Speaker 1: just outrageous um energy for a Monday, non holl practice round.
Speaker 1: Um the Gulf world is just a better place when
Speaker 1: he's plying, you know, so um fantastic, enjoyed it can't
Speaker 1: wait for next year, all right, Jeff, thanks again for
Speaker 1: joining us this week. Appreciate all the commentary and insight
Speaker 1: and perspective and look forward to two more from you
Speaker 1: down the road here at the fire Pick Collective. So
Speaker 1: thanks again, all right, sun Yeah, Ryan, final thoughts, Thank you.
Speaker 1: I promise I will never it was awesome. Masters was wonderful.
Speaker 1: The fact that I'm on a podcast with Jeff Ogilvie
Speaker 1: and Elliship in last of course, it's crazy. The fact
Speaker 1: that you came to me about the design question after
Speaker 1: Jeff Ogilvy is gonna really keep me up tonight. So
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Last final thought, I loved it.
Speaker 1: It was a great week and really enjoyed the fire
Speaker 1: drills that were coming in from the team that was
Speaker 1: out there. Those are so fun to listen to. And um,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think I've ever been more excited
Speaker 1: for an Open Championship as I am for what's what's
Speaker 1: hopefully going to be coming for us at St. Andrew's,
Speaker 1: which is more Tiger. Yeah, and look forward to more
Speaker 1: grassroots podcast from you and the Jet Throw in the
Speaker 1: next few weeks. Looking forward to that and congratulations on
Speaker 1: the launch of that Ryan. More from you from the
Speaker 1: grind Alan final thoughts, Well, it was It's an important victory,
Speaker 1: you know, like Scottish Effler got the number one so fast.
Speaker 1: There was there was people questioning his bona fides, but
Speaker 1: he um, he's really taken control of the Gulf. World's
Speaker 1: hard to believe. He was a twelfth man on the
Speaker 1: Ryder Cup team just in September, and um, now he's
Speaker 1: the man. It's incredible performance. I can't wait to see
Speaker 1: where he goes from here. You know, he has a
Speaker 1: real star quality in its game. And yeah, the Master
Speaker 1: just always delivers no matter what, uh, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: why we anticipated so much. It just it just always
Speaker 1: brings it. And there was another memorable one and now
Speaker 1: it's on the Southern Hills, which is not his epic
Speaker 1: of venue, but it is gonna be fascinating its own way.
Speaker 1: And Tiger is still in play for that one. He's
Speaker 1: a maybe we have to wait to what happens with Phil.
Speaker 1: I mean, There's Master was great and now now the
Speaker 1: now the drune beat to Southern Hills begins, and that's
Speaker 1: gonna be Uh, that's gonna be a really intriguing me
Speaker 1: your championship. Appreciate you guys, Appreciate your time, Appreciate the listeners,
Speaker 1: thanks for tuning in, and we'll talk against him. Another
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