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Speaker 2: Conference remains the nightly gauntment we all expected it to be.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into stories from around the league, including the

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Speaker 3: latest with the Lakers with Gluts points baraj to Balu

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Speaker 3: on today's episode, I'm Miles Gray.

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Speaker 4: And I'm Jack O'Brien and this is.

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Speaker 5: Rock Chicory got it and looka hits ten.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there you go. Indeed driving spinning.

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Speaker 4: Katy Fatter number eighteen.

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Speaker 3: That's ten. Secure the Suffolk or NBA Championship over the

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Speaker 3: couple team ride night.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Nika Taka, looka no shutt, won't you go? Yes,

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Speaker 3: We're back, so is Rad Schapalu. Look recently, you're come

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Speaker 3: from the G League with clutch points. Got the Lakers

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Speaker 3: Lounge Podcast?

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Speaker 2: I think it must follow on Twitter for anybody who

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Speaker 3: I know that the case for myself than.

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Speaker 4: Most importantly recently watched Scarface for the first time. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 4: and you don't worry the NBA is it? We know

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Speaker 4: it's still a basketball podcast. Where was a basketball scene. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 3: Your take on basketball moves that you see actors doing movies? Like,

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Speaker 6: Is this?

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Speaker 3: What do you when you watch it? I know, as

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Speaker 3: And you're like, I get into it that it's basketball.

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Speaker 4: It's a group of fifty prisoners in this like makeshift

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Speaker 4: The election broke our minds. So this is where we're at.

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Speaker 3: Are not counterfeit in the sense that they won't go

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Speaker 4: I don't know the quotes that concern that concern you

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Speaker 4: So first of all, starting two bigs who can't really

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Speaker 4: Philly looks like the second best team in the East.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Garland's shooting forty six from three, Mitchell forty one

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Speaker 2: So the Warriors also eight and two, as Jack said,

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Speaker 3: White tears away, it's all right, it's all right.

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Speaker 4: Guys, Yeah, let's do it over Kurr halftime speech.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Again for them, Like, I don't think it's counterfeit.

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Speaker 4: And I I do not have anything personal against him,

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Speaker 4: That's the thing, Like, i never hold a grudge against

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Speaker 6: Right, I'm sure you are, But I think, Buddy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but he looks born to play in this system,

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Speaker 6: And I think that's where the criticism came, where he

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Speaker 4: Should we take a break?

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Speaker 3: Embracing it. Thank you. He's he's kebec law books. All right,

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Speaker 3: And you know, in addition to loving our Sixers and Lakers,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't seem to be necessarily a priority at this point.

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00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 4: His blocks are actually up this year from three point

436
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 4: six last year to three point nine. The other thing

437
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 4: that's kind of wild, and it again could be small

438
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 4: sample size, but they always say, like one of the

439
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 4: first things to look at for shooting is like how

440
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 4: good of a free throw shooter is the person he's

441
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 4: shooting ninety two percent from free throw wow this year.

442
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 3: That's that's good, right.

443
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 4: That's like yeah again, like and he's not shooting as

444
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 4: many free throws this year, which is wild.

445
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 5: But he.

446
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 6: Likes wiking his arm out and putting it in at

447
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 6: the free throw line, like.

448
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: That's yeah, yeah, right, right right, yeah. It's like have

449
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 3: you ever put anything into a garbage can as you

450
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 3: stood over it?

451
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 6: That's kind of like, how the that's what he's doing?

452
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 3: Nice and easy? Nice?

453
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 2: That uh, that one clip of some bonus just giving

454
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 2: him that fake and then the way he recovered with

455
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: that second. It's because you can see his footwork the

456
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 2: second he's like up a bit, you can you can

457
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 2: tell he's sorting his feet out immediately to.

458
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: Just get right back up and make that block. And

459
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 3: I was like, man, see, this is the other stuff

460
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 3: that aside from like whatever his shot selection is, Like,

461
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: these are the other skills that are developing in real

462
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 3: time too that are going to just I again, the health.

463
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 3: I hope please keep that slender body in shape, because

464
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 3: as we saw with Chat Holmgren.

465
00:22:59,240 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 5: Uh.

466
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was one of the last things I saw

467
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 4: this year was Chet Holmgren, you know, falling on his hip. Yeah,

468
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 4: he's out for like eleven weeks to be reevaluated.

469
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 3: That's like to be looked at, you know what I mean,

470
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, he'll be ready. It's like no, no,

471
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: we ain't even looking.

472
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 4: And he looked like he was really when Byama had

473
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 4: a really great, like all time great rookie season last

474
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 4: year and Chet was like a very strong second. Yeah,

475
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 4: and he looked like he like took a whole leap

476
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 4: this year. So it is definitely disappointing to see happen.

477
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 4: Hopefully he comes back strong. I'm hoping that when Byama's

478
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 4: superhuman flexibility in addition to a superhuman size and athleticism

479
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 4: keeps things like that from happening to him.

480
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 3: I hope he has like flubber in his bones. Yeah

481
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, just to keep him blinky

482
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: blinkie safe because yeah, not a lot of not a

483
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: lot of protection from the body for sure.

484
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is there's gonna be two seasons really that

485
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 6: they've me hope check back. But obviously missed his rookie year, right,

486
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 6: so now this is his third year also, which like

487
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 6: tells me Sam Press is a really you know, he's

488
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 6: not a super aggressive GM. But I think like title

489
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 6: windows are very short. You know, they were the one

490
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 6: seed last year, and you know they kind of just

491
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 6: played it safe, and you know that was seen as

492
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 6: the right move. I just I think you have that

493
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 6: is this good? You should kind of go you trade Chet? No, no, no,

494
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 6: you don't, but like you trade Chet, maybe you trade

495
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 6: one of the five hundred milliear.

496
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 4: Grumbles that they're going to trade Chet.

497
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 3: For you heard it right here, right, that's what standing.

498
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 4: Sorry again, we're just trying to keep up with the SPN.

499
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 3: They just make.

500
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 6: To say that they they have like three hundred but

501
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 6: they have like three hundred million first round.

502
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 4: Picks the exactly right, So just use those, I guess

503
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 4: some of them. You don't have to trade all of them,

504
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 4: but you have the winning lottery ticket that you you're

505
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 4: sitting on. But right, Yeah, back to a there's for

506
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,959
Speaker 4: all the people who are critical of the shot profile

507
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 4: and stuff like that, they're in addition to like the blocks,

508
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: there's so many good clips, you know, highlights. They don't

509
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 4: really highlights for anyone else, but it's like it is

510
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 4: the very first thing I noticed about his game watching

511
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 4: him in his very first summer league is the number

512
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 4: of shots where he's maybe not even the primary defender,

513
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 4: but he just affects what everybody is doing because they

514
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 4: know that he's there and that he can block shots

515
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 4: that had never been blocked in a basketball game before. Yeah,

516
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 4: Like there's a good clip of I don't know who

517
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 4: it is, but driving in has their man on their

518
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 4: hip and just knows the webbiandas behind them and so

519
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 4: turns and tries to kick it back out and it's

520
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 4: a terrible pass and I immediate turnover. But yeah, shots

521
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 4: just like don't go up in the same places people

522
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 4: get to their spot and then forget that it's their

523
00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 4: spot when he's around. So I just feel like that's

524
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 4: kind of an underrated thing that will always be a

525
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 4: part of his game that breaks the floor.

526
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 6: He breaks like the geometry of the floor, Like he

527
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 6: can you know, steal a pass while also you know,

528
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 6: defending the post players. It's just absurd. And I think

529
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 6: Davis does some of this, but he doesn't have as

530
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 6: freakish alien arms as Wenby does. And Wemby was already

531
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 6: in what Defensive Player of the Year conversations a year

532
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 6: ago is his rookie season and the Spurs you know,

533
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 6: had the amount of Wednesday Day that they had, So

534
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 6: he's gonna keep getting better. He's an alien And like,

535
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 6: you know, I just hope san Antonio never gets a

536
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 6: real number two, Like they just keep flipping, you know,

537
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 6: these players, and you know none of them actually turn

538
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 6: down to the number two, because once he does, he's gonna,

539
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 6: you know, they're gonna start winning at a at a

540
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 6: crazy pace.

541
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 4: Yea is.

542
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: You know that I learned this thing like about bees,

543
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: like if a dark shadow comes over to the ground,

544
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 2: you know, have you do you know this about bees. No,

545
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 2: so there's like an instinct for like bees, when like

546
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: a darkness comes over, they immediately cease flying because it's

547
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: like an instinct they developed for like a storm or

548
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: like a tornado that would take them away, is to

549
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: just hug the ground. It's this like in this interesting

550
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: way because like when I watch these clips too, about

551
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 2: like you're talking about the geometry of everything, if people

552
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 2: even feel like the shadow of Wemby, it's like that

553
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: instinct w It's like no, no, yeah, down, down, I

554
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: can I just already know that this is not this

555
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: is not the best decision to make. But anyway, a

556
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: little bit, yeah, a little bit of insect facts. You know,

557
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: we like to sprinkle in this show, Miles. You know

558
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: that I'm a huge fan of that insect fact. So

559
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: you just dropped off me.

560
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know.

561
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 4: I think other NBA players should start thinking about being

562
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 4: like why wh yeah, you know, like just saying like

563
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 4: little French things out of their breath or like kind

564
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 4: of mess with people equally like other Spurs players.

565
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: But if it's like any French person, they're like, you're

566
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: not speaking French, you know what I mean? And then

567
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: throw that back to you and then they're like, oh man,

568
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: they're like, sorry, might not even try. Yes, you're right,

569
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 3: Soccer Blue Milwaukee brother.

570
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 4: This it doesn't bother me as much because Jannis has

571
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 4: has the title. He did the thing that was awesome.

572
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 4: He didn't you know, you can't take that away from him, Like,

573
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 4: and he's probably gonna eventually go somewhere else. But you know,

574
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 4: the haters can't really be full blown haters because he's

575
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 4: already done it. That said, this is yeah, this is bad.

576
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 4: I don't know. The team just doesn't work as currently constituted.

577
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 4: It's just wild that they were like the coach is

578
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 4: the problem and then like they've been way worse in

579
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 4: terms of win's losses since they made the coaching change.

580
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: I don't know the answer here, superducer Jabari. Can they

581
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 4: get coach bud back is you know you don't you

582
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 4: don't hear about those changes that don't recent.

583
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: Google searches in Milwaukee can get coach, but ten trade

584
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: coach back.

585
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're.

586
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: Two and eight and yeah, and it just feels like

587
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: it gets like just the situation gets a little bit

588
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: more negative and more negative.

589
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

590
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's funny because I went back and after Giannis

591
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 6: won the title in twenty twenty one, he had a

592
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 6: quote he's like, yeah, we won the championship and if

593
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 6: we don't do it again, it's okay. And obviously that

594
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 6: quote has died in three years because it's you know,

595
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 6: there's trade, you know, conversations and stuff like that. But yes,

596
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 6: it's funny to watch them kind of just age. And

597
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 6: this is kind of what happens to title teams. Right

598
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 6: when you win a championship, you pay the role players,

599
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 6: and some of them you overpay. And now, like these

600
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 6: role players are old, and then when you trade for

601
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 6: Damian Lillard, you functionally like change the core of what

602
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 6: your team's built around. So they were you know before

603
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 6: it was Drew Holliday and it was a prime Joannice

604
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 6: is still in his prime, but like Brook Lopez was

605
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 6: a DPO y you know, contender for years. Gianness was

606
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 6: also that. So they were like a lockdown defense with

607
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 6: Bud and kind of a regular season wins in machine

608
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 6: and now like I see the low lights of Damian

609
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 6: Lillard defense, it's like what did you think you were getting?

610
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 6: Like what player did you like? Like he dies on screens,

611
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 6: he's died on screen since his rookie year, Like Dame

612
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 6: is not defended at all, but it's now It's just

613
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 6: they have no one to surround him with. And you

614
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 6: combine old Brook Lopez with Dame and a team that

615
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 6: doesn't switch, and Gianni's gonna have like forty plus and

616
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 6: they still lose. And I just like, if you're going

617
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 6: to fire a coach at thirty and thirteen, you better

618
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 6: go get like Eric Spolstra instead. They did that to

619
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 6: go get Doc Rivers. It's just every Doc Rivers team

620
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 6: I feel like implodes and like just strage his way,

621
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 6: the Ben Simmons situation, the Kawhi Paul George stuff, Like

622
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 6: every single time a Doc Rivers team just implodes. So, yeah,

623
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 6: two and eight, I don't see this getting better anytime soon.

624
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 6: In Middleton's still out, They're lucky. The East is so bad.

625
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 6: I think there's only two teams over five hundred, so

626
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 6: they'll have a chance to kind of recoup some wins.

627
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 6: They play the Bulls four times, they played the injured

628
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 6: six Ers for no I mean they played they played

629
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 6: bad teams like four times a year, but they play

630
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 6: a lot of bad teams.

631
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we'll see the Sixers. I we do have

632
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 4: a recent MVP who might be coming back from injury

633
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 4: at some point in the not too distant future, so

634
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 4: we'll see.

635
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: Should we talk about the Lakers?

636
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: I mean a little bit.

637
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: I think since Roger is here and you know that

638
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: I love my Lakers. We're six and four. Our home

639
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: record I watering. Our record on the road also eye

640
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 3: watering in a different way. We're one and four, five

641
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: and zero at home.

642
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: Let's just focus on that.

643
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's focus on that. Can we just can we

644
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 3: just do like home games? Is that cool? So?

645
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 4: Like, I've learned a couple of things in the past

646
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 4: week about like how you can treat the media and

647
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 4: like kind of get away with it. What if, like

648
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 4: you just didn't tell people about the one and the

649
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 4: four on the road because like the only one they're

650
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 4: seeing in person.

651
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: Nay defeated doing exactly. We're the Calves, dude, We're like

652
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: the calves. Why is no one talking about we're the

653
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Speaker 3: calves at home?

654
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this. I was very cynical about jj Reddick.

655
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: I was very unsure, and despite this, I thought we

656
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: were gonna be I thought.

657
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: We were gonna be worse off than six and four,

658
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: to be honest, and I'm I.

659
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: Am heartened by what I see and I am I

660
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: do like to see that there's flexibility. I do like

661
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: to see that we're willing to Nah, this isn't working.

662
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: I think you need to go to the second unit.

663
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: Let's try something different.

664
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: But man, I'm also just worried about the defense from

665
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: our guards is also just another part. I'm just like,

666
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: there's so many clips I see like Austin Reeves just

667
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 3: get blown by and he's like, come on, dude, on

668
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: a beach. Wild, Dude, it's wild.

669
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: But I mean, yeah, how do you look at the

670
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: evolution because I I mean from my fan not being

671
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: close up as a journalist's perspective, I'm like, what I

672
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: do like is that they look like they're bought in

673
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: to what JJ is putting down, and it looks like

674
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: they do like even when ars like like, there's a

675
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: level of accountability self accountability that I do appreciate and

676
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not hallucinating that, right, It feels like

677
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: that's very much what's happening despite the street and performances.

678
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's funny because they're the only team over

679
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 6: five hundred that has a negative net rating like every

680
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 6: other team is, you know, in the positive net which

681
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 6: I think kind of shows you kind of how the

682
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 6: season has gone so far. Obviously the three and three

683
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 6: and h start, then they lost on the road to

684
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 6: Phoenix and some of those games, Like I'm not blaming

685
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 6: this on Lebron, but like you have a fourty year

686
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 6: old superstar, right, so like the the needs for him

687
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 6: are different, and so like when they played the Pistons

688
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 6: on the road for example, which is one of the

689
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 6: losses that they have, the team kind of goes as

690
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 6: Lebron goes, especially on his energy level sometimes, and I

691
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 6: thought the whole team kind of came out very lackadaisical.

692
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 6: But I think this team when like Lebron's locked in

693
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 6: and obviously eighty has been the MVP. I think so

694
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 6: far he's averaging over thirty points a game and he's

695
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 6: had thirty I think every.

696
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 4: SINGVP league wide MVP, he'd be your pick.

697
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 6: I think so right now, if the Lakers can like

698
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 6: pick up a couple more wins in terms of the seating,

699
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 6: I think he can really right, you know, get AVP

700
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 6: this year, He's he's just been incredible. This is the

701
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 6: best offensive season the eighties had. But the main concern

702
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 6: to me, obviously I think he spoke about is the defense.

703
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 6: We're twenty I believe eighth in defense right now, twenty

704
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 6: sixth in defense currently and the guards. And that's like

705
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 6: I tweeted before the season started, I was like, Cam

706
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 6: Ridders is going to have to play and I got

707
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 6: killed for that. You know, They're like, that's why you

708
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 6: fire Darvin Ham Like I just look at this yeah, right,

709
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 6: Like I just look at this roster. I'm like, there's

710
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 6: just not enough athletic footspeed for you know, a wing

711
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 6: who can really and Cam can really guard. Like the

712
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 6: sad part is like he's a really good defender. It's

713
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Speaker 6: just I don't think that's what he thinks he is

714
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 6: in his head. Cam Riders still, you know, wants to

715
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 6: be the Cameraritis that came out of Duke, but like

716
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 6: he can really defend. He's he's a super skilled wing defender.

717
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 6: And JJ saw that and when started him Delos coming

718
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 6: off the bench. We'll see how body in he is

719
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 6: with that. As the season goes, I think wins will

720
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 6: kind of determine, you know, how invested he is in

721
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 6: that situation. But yeah, they look good so far. They

722
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 6: have some winnable games coming up. They have a game

723
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 6: tomorrow against Memphis, who you know, Jaw I think is

724
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 6: going to be out. Also an in season tournament game,

725
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 6: but yeah, i'd like to start. So far, JJ has

726
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 6: been good, eighty has been awesome. The bench scoring is

727
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 6: still a concern of mine. The backup senate ranked seven, Yeah,

728
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 6: it's and Max Christy was a guy that, like a

729
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 6: lot of people hope would really you know, become something

730
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 6: this year, and they paid him and he just has

731
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 6: not been good and he's already collecting DMPs, you know,

732
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 6: because of Cam Reddish. That's why I think d Low

733
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 6: went to the bench. But overall this is a solid team.

734
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 6: I think they need another move, of course, like just

735
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 6: to step into that next tier, you know, in the West.

736
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Speaker 6: But right now I think they can like hover around

737
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 6: like this, you know, win profile and we'll see how

738
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 6: it goes. But their numbers a little skewed because one

739
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 6: of the wins, Ron just went nuclear against the Kings,

740
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 6: which I feel like only happens to teams like the Kings.

741
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 6: Like the Kings just get these weird.

742
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 4: Fans are so dismissive of Kings and Clippers. It's just

743
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 4: in your DNA. You can't help it. You can't help it.

744
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

745
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 4: By the way, listeners, if you are the gambling type

746
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 4: and in a state where that is possible, AD is

747
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: currently a fifth for mvprs, he's uh, you know, you

748
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 4: got Jokich at plus two twenty five, Shay at three

749
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: point thirty, Luca plus five hundred, ADS plus eighteen hundred.

750
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: So that would be a pretty spicy meatball. Spicy call

751
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 4: if you know, this is my attempt to talk about gambling.

752
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 4: I stink at it.

753
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: That was pretty spicy meatball. You don't want that. You

754
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: don't want to see?

755
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 4: Sorry, six for VP.

756
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: I feel like the.

757
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 4: Lakers are usually better than their net rating, like the past,

758
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 4: like since Lebron, like Lebron will just pick and choose

759
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 4: his spots, and sometimes when the team doesn't have it

760
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 4: and he doesn't have it, he's you know, you guys

761
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 4: will lose by more than expected. I've always felt like

762
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 4: net ratings not the best way to gauge how good

763
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 4: the Lakers are.

764
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm so the line the data I usually look

765
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 6: at that is like how good are you when your

766
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 6: stars are on the floor, right, Yeah, I know we

767
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 6: didn't talk about Milwaukee, but like Damon Giannis are a

768
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 6: minus one point eight together, which is horrific. Right, You're

769
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 6: losing the minutes with your two players that make sixty

770
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 6: million dollars a year, Like, that's just that just can't happen.

771
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 6: And lebron ad right now are a minus. I think

772
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 6: they're just under a negative around minus point five, which again,

773
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 6: like that's just you just can't have that happen. And

774
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 6: I think that's not sustainable. I think that will pick

775
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 6: up as the season goes on, but yeah, that that's

776
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 6: where they're at right now. And look, Austin Reeves has

777
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 6: been handed the keys now to the to the point

778
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 6: guard position, and he looks you know, he looks like

779
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 6: and you just talked about his defense. I don't think like,

780
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 6: if Austin Reeves is your best defender and your starting lineup,

781
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 6: you have a problem. Yeah, that's why I think like

782
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 6: Camras got inserted in there, and I think that's helped

783
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 6: his legs as well. Right, Yeah, so he's looked good.

784
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 6: And it's funny because the Lakers and Bucks are only

785
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 6: two teams that have teammates that are averaging eighteen five

786
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 6: and four. That's Damon Giannis Milwaukee, and that's Austin and

787
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 6: Lebron on the Lakers. Every but obviously two teams going

788
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 6: in different directions. But that's been it's been interesting to watch,

789
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 6: Like d Lo kind of over the summer, JJ said,

790
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 6: Delo is the guy he talked to the most over

791
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 6: the summer. They texted the most. Maybe that's the only

792
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 6: guy he had his number, but like that's the guy

793
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 6: that he said they texted the most over the summer.

794
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 6: To go from that to now de Lo coming off

795
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 6: the bench, that's quite a start kind of difference in

796
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 6: just a few weeks.

797
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: I mean, he's seems outwardly handling it somewhat well, like

798
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 3: he's not you know, he's just saying like, look, I'm

799
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: just we're fine. Yeah, like I'm here to win. If that,

800
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: if that's what it took the summer to get to,

801
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 3: then fine. But I'm sure that JJ was probably looking

802
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: for just that little bit extra. But we don't. I

803
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: won't hold my breath. But before we take a break,

804
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 3: what do you think? What are we?

805
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: Are we what's Rob Polink going to do? Are we

806
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: just waiting for for Vando to come back. Are we

807
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: gonna get active here because I'm so curious about what,

808
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: Like that's a huge question mark that is going to

809
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 2: affect the rest of the.

810
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 6: Tame, right, Yeah, it's it's you know, it's interesting because

811
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 6: I think Rob has kind of talked about and they've

812
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 6: kind of preached development, right, and they're preach inner kind

813
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 6: of growth in terms of their young players that just

814
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 6: hasn't worked out so far, and this front office hasn't

815
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 6: really shown that they're going to go all in on

816
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 6: a team that's hovering around playing territory, right, Like the

817
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 6: most they've traded is like one first round pick, and

818
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 6: I think the Russell Westbrook thing has kind of traumatized them,

819
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 6: and you know, going all in for a single player.

820
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 6: You know, Levin is a guy that pops up a lot,

821
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 6: but Levine has a lot of you know similar I mean,

822
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 6: I think he's a better player than Russ was when

823
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 6: we traded for him. But the contract, the knees, right,

824
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 6: all that comes together. So I think they're going to

825
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 6: try and look for a small deal. To me, like

826
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 6: they need a backup center and they need one more wing.

827
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 6: Like if you get those two things I think we're cooking.

828
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 6: Like you get a door if any Smith or Cam Johnson,

829
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Speaker 6: and you get like you can get a Walker Kessler

830
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 6: out of Utah or you know, like a backup center

831
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 6: that you can just rely on. Right now, it's Jackson Hayes.

832
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 6: Like and Jackson Hayes has played fine, but like Jackson

833
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 6: Hayes as your starter is, you know you're gonna lose

834
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 6: a lot of games if Ady hasn't missed any time.

835
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 6: So I think that's what they're going to look at.

836
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 6: And I don't expect them to make a big splash

837
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 6: unless this team is like the two seed at the

838
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 6: All Star break then like they're like, oh yeah, let's

839
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 6: go all in. But I just don't see a huge

840
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 6: trade coming, you know down the line.

841
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't know what it is. But something's

842
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: got to give, for sure.

843
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 4: We should just because it's been getting some you know,

844
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 4: national international media attention mentioned like so heading into the season,

845
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 4: I had a take that JJ Reddick's hair was too

846
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 4: good to be an NBA coach. Uh and a lot

847
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 4: of people are pointing out the like five and zero

848
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 4: at home in LA where that sort of hairstyle might

849
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 4: be like more accepted and like just you know, not

850
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 4: stand out as much one and four on the road,

851
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 4: where like, I don't know, that's not a basketball coach.

852
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 4: Why don't the Lakers have a basketball coach? They just

853
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 4: have that dude in a boy band over there in

854
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 4: the dunks, right, So it's just a thing to keep

855
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 4: an eye on. I guess I don't. I don't know

856
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 4: that it's like explained everything, but it's definitely a thing

857
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 4: that's being that has some people's eyebrows raised just for

858
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 4: a second, like noted, noted, you see the hair? Is

859
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 4: that too good for Utah? Is that too good for deployment?

860
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: What is that hair?

861
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 4: Come out? Let that sit on the bench with the Lakers,

862
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 4: he's more handsome than any of the players. You got

863
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: thoughts on Well, I'm just I think I think it

864
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 4: causes problems.

865
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I get it. I get it.

866
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: Should take JJ bredde okay, jadache and we'll be right

867
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: back with the.

868
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 3: Rapid fire round of questioning.

869
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 4: Rather, JJ rhetoric is out of control, and we're back.

870
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 3: Raj Chabalu. We love having you here, man, But this

871
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 3: is the part that that most of our guests dread.

872
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: It's the hot seat.

873
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 6: I remember this. I remember this.

874
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know you do.

875
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: I know you.

876
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: The holidays coming up, so I'm gonna go full Sanna.

877
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 3: You're going on him. Okay, he's doing how cute?

878
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 4: Sam Samon drinking? Why is he laughing so hard at nothing?

879
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: A sixers jersey? But this is the four quarter rapid

880
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: fire round of questioning. Look, Roger, you're gonna ask you

881
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: a question you just think, you just respond. You don't

882
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 3: take too long. You show everybody how quick your mind is,

883
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 3: because if you take too long, we will be so

884
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 3: rude to you that you will reconsider coming back. Although

885
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: and we will apologize to you profusely off mic so

886
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: that we make things okay. But I don't want to

887
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 3: tell the listeners that even though I just did, Okay,

888
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 3: are you ready, Raj, let's do it.

889
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 4: He's not ready.

890
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: I know, I know.

891
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 5: They always say they're ready, Jack, they always say they're

892
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 5: ready like a little baby lamb out there ready, Bryan.

893
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 5: Oh man, this is like I've never seen them like this.

894
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 5: I'm charged up. I'm charged up.

895
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 4: You're going first, man, who's going like a like a

896
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: dang Now it's like a dang street light. Uh, why

897
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 4: don't you go first. I think you all right, think

898
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 4: you crafted this first one. Look, we're playing pick up hoops.

899
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 3: With characters from the TV show The Office.

900
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: We just got the first pick and took doctor j

901
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 2: who was in an episode in the last season.

902
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: And each player, each person that you see is in

903
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: their prime.

904
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 4: Was such a big office head that like, he pulled

905
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 4: that last second.

906
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: I had to. We had another one.

907
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 2: We had another written down, No doctor j doctor was there.

908
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 2: But we also made a rule that basically said, nobody

909
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: who played in the NBA is selectable. But that's okay

910
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 2: because we picked the only person that has played in

911
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 2: the right.

912
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: They were like, oh, that's against the rules. Well, we

913
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 4: can't allow. We can't say you can't do it anymore.

914
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 4: So that that's how it happened.

915
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 3: What happened was that exactly, So who are you picking

916
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: any character?

917
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 6: So it has to be Jim, right, he was the

918
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 6: best player in the Office. I think he actually played basketball,

919
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 6: you know, in you know, high school or college. I

920
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 6: don't remembers played I remember, I'm.

921
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: Sorry the character, yes, oh, the character Jim.

922
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 4: Jim.

923
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 3: I guess we payed, okay, I.

924
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 4: Guess we're in the world, right, this is a great

925
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 4: point by rog We're in the world.

926
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 6: We're in office, aren't we He was actually the best

927
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 6: player and he killed in that little run they had

928
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 6: inside there.

929
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hate that's the right answer. I'm thinking outside

930
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 4: of the world of the Office, where I don't really

931
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: care about Jay.

932
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: But because how would doctor j Prime Doctor J beat

933
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 3: Prime Jim Helper?

934
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 4: Right? Oh no, we're still going to win. I just

935
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: hate that that's the right decision. We're still going to

936
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 4: destroy them.

937
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

938
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 2: Also shout to Kevin Malone played by Brian Bomgardner, who

939
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: in that basketball episode there are just like these b

940
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: roll shots of him just be is just weady, weady,

941
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: and because he actually is a huge, huge sports fan

942
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: and athletes, so that was also the correct But.

943
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 4: Man, he's no but he's pretty good.

944
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: Rog Neil did with that one.

945
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: All right, where are you on business decisions as a player?

946
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 6: You know?

947
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 4: We we saw a famous business decision in the world

948
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 4: of college hoops where the coach's son got in for

949
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 4: a second and decided to challenge someone at the rim

950
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 4: and got flipped upside down. Some good ones in the

951
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 4: n B. A uh Giannis got right out of the

952
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 4: way when somebody was about to when kat was about

953
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 4: to yoke on him against He's like, no, you may not.

954
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: I will not be in that photograph like like it was.

955
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 4: He was avoiding the paparazzi. Uh Kate Cunningham made a

956
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 4: slightly worse business decision with Jayalen Green. He got picked

957
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: by uh, I don't know who was guarding him, but

958
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 4: then they dished to Jalen Green and uh, here we'll

959
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 4: play the audio.

960
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: Man Thompson this time with the defensive play.

961
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I will continue to go up and donk, you're

962
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 8: a coach, okay in the in this league, all right,

963
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 8: are your players is allowed to make good business decisions?

964
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 6: So so really quick at that Jade and cunning I

965
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 6: don't see that as a business decision though, like Caide was,

966
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 6: he had he had no time to even think. He

967
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 6: really just turned around and you know Green Ray dunked

968
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 6: on him. Yeah, But as a coach, it depends who

969
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 6: you are, right, Like, I don't need my sixty million

970
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 6: dollars superstar like getting in the way of every single

971
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 6: dunk that's you know, trying to be created. But if

972
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 6: I put you in there specifically as a body to

973
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 6: be the energy guy right, then, No, you cannot get

974
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 6: out of the way. Like in some it's like if

975
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 6: Zion's coming down four hundred, like in one hundred miles

976
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 6: per hour. You know, some of those I get it.

977
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 6: But yeah, if you're in there specifically to go and

978
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 6: take charges, then you go and take charges.

979
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 4: But I don't really it's about to be hurt Locker

980
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 4: in here if you try and go up against him,

981
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 4: it's about to we're gonna be sea body parts.

982
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

983
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 6: But if it's Lebron then yeah, get out of the way.

984
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 6: It's all right in November. I think you're taking charges

985
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 6: in November, like let's let's save let's save those.

986
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and after the person gets blown up, what do

987
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 4: you like when they come back to the bench, are

988
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 4: you like, hey man, great love that from you like

989
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 4: waiter or do you just like kind of try not

990
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 4: to make eye contact with No.

991
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 6: So, like that's you know, that's a good play. That's

992
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 6: the charges are.

993
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: That's a good basketball play.

994
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, the super Woman, Like that's a huge momentum play.

995
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 6: Every single you know, Arena gets up for a charge.

996
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 6: I know some people want to take the charge out

997
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 6: of basketball. I disagree. I think it's an important momentum play.

998
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 6: That's that's involved, you know.

999
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: And when on a run. Absolutely. Okay, here's the next question.

1000
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 3: Please name your Lakers Mount Rushmore.

1001
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 6: Lakers Mount Rushmore. Okay, have cob and it.

1002
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 4: Can and it can be.

1003
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: It can be anyone who is relevant. So I will

1004
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 3: say this, we can zoom out of anyone who is

1005
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 3: relevant to the Lakers organization because it.

1006
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 4: Could be presidents.

1007
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 3: Man, it could be whatever.

1008
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 6: You know.

1009
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 3: There could be Lincoln Jefferson.

1010
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 4: You're a Lakers fan Mount Rushmore.

1011
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 6: All right, so obviously you know Kobe would be on it,

1012
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 6: Magic be on it, Kareem is on it. I think

1013
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 6: Lebron is on it.

1014
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 4: How many?

1015
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: Just four?

1016
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 4: You just c as far?

1017
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, that that would be my mountain.

1018
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 4: Lebron made it. That's I'm seeing growth from you Lakers fans.

1019
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 6: No shock, huh, that's a good point. No chick hearn No,

1020
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 6: I would keep it.

1021
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 4: Know what hern looks like?

1022
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 3: Man?

1023
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 4: What you don't say that to me?

1024
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 3: I'm forty, I'm a man.

1025
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 4: No, Jerry West, I mean he got the logo, he's iconic.

1026
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's around Okay now, and I don't mean to

1027
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 3: pick apart.

1028
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm just making sure. I'm just confirming, yes,

1029
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 6: stick with those, all right.

1030
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 4: Finally, the Lakers have final possession, down to Game seven

1031
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 4: of the finals. You can pick one player sees this

1032
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 4: is already know the answer this then exclude someone. Exclude

1033
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 4: the person. You can pick one player. But Kobe just

1034
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 4: twists his ankle. Uh so he's out one player from

1035
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 4: throughout franchise history that the ball is in their hands

1036
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 4: just to get a bucket. Who are you putting the

1037
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 4: ball in the hands?

1038
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 3: Wait?

1039
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 6: Is it get a bucket? Or is it just like

1040
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 6: hit the finals?

1041
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: We need to we need a three, you need like

1042
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 3: how much.

1043
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 6: Tame is left?

1044
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 3: Okay about this, we got one possession. Let's just say

1045
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 3: we're down one. So so just so anything, any any

1046
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 3: score is enough.

1047
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 6: And you said Kobe twisted his ankle.

1048
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 4: Kobe just twisted his ankle, by the way, that would

1049
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 4: be the right answer, but go ahead.

1050
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 3: Obviously it's two obvious the questions. So we had altered

1051
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 3: all right.

1052
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 6: So so I think this is the this is the

1053
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 6: right answer. I think I think it's shot right, Like

1054
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 6: that's who you'd have to give the ball to for

1055
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 6: one like one basket at the end, and you don't

1056
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 6: have Kobe available. Shock hit him when they counted. That's

1057
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 6: you know, that's the hit when Wow, Lebron and Shaq

1058
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 6: would be close. But I think Shaq is you know,

1059
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 6: known as the most dominant big man and or dominant

1060
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 6: player ever. I think Shaq, if you just needed a basket,

1061
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 6: you're down too.

1062
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1063
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 4: Did Shack have any iconic game winners?

1064
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 6: Mmm?

1065
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 3: No, right, there was one Jabari is referencing against Utah

1066
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 3: okay many years ago.

1067
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean the Barn game in Blue Chips.

1068
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 4: I think he said game on that one. I'll you

1069
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 4: dunk that was that was a game winner technically, So

1070
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 4: there you go.

1071
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 3: All right. I like it.

1072
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 4: It's the wrong answer, but I like it.

1073
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 3: That's also the right answer.

1074
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 4: Actually is also the right answer because you know all

1075
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 4: these yeah, right answer you got? Yeah, sorry, this one

1076
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 4: is yeah. No, I'm being told by the judges you

1077
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: got all correct answer.

1078
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 2: I don't know how that works, but you do it

1079
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 2: every time. Raj Chapalu, thank you so much for stopping by.

1080
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 2: Miles and Jack Matt Boosties. Where do the people find you?

1081
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: Follow your support? You read, you, hear you all that

1082
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 2: good stuff?

1083
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, at ross to follow you on Twitter, start posting

1084
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 6: on you know TikTok as well, having some breakdowns. There

1085
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Speaker 6: have the Lakers detailed on Lakers Lounge podcast and I'm

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Speaker 6: writing for Clutch Points. I was covering their soft bay

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Speaker 6: and all the young players and Bronnie got to talk

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Speaker 6: to Bronnie, you know, yesterday he had his debut in

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Speaker 6: the G League as well.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, you can follow me all all over there,

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Speaker 4: all over amaze.

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Speaker 2: You can follow the show at the hashtag mat boosties

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Speaker 2: be double O S t I E S.

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Speaker 3: You could also follow one of us on Twitter. I'm

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Speaker 3: there at Miles of Gray.

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Speaker 4: I'm at Jack Underscore O'Brien, and you can only follow

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Speaker 4: one of them. It can't be both decide now and

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Speaker 4: only one of us. One of us can tell no

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Speaker 4: lies and one of us can tell the truth.

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Speaker 3: So you have one question to ask me proceive. And

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Speaker 3: that has been another flawless episode of Myles Jack, I'm

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Speaker 3: mad Boosti's we allay. We'll be back next week where

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Speaker 3: we will inevitably have some Emirates NBA Cup action to

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Speaker 3: talk about.

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Speaker 6: Then.

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Speaker 4: Until then, Bye bye, Buddy Heel Downtown Swish