1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: That sounds in my head. Abe, you listen to a 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: little harmony, right, there's going to be calling. We don't 3 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: have time for a record. I mean, guys, don't they 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: know we're still trying to set up our merch to manage. 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: You become our own manager, you manage yourself. That's like 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: being your own lawyer. It sounds like the worst idea ever. 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: Oh how are you today? Chip? Good? How are you? 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 1: You know? I'm alright. I've had like a little bit 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: of an up and down week, but honestly, I feel 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: like I'm in a good stride right now. I'm having 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: this weird thing happened where like and this kind of 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: actually goes in line with the topic, but like the 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: funk that I have left to give are so little 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: that I just like, I don't care. Life still goddamn short, truly, 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: And I keep hearing that like a woman finds her 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: stride by forty of just like finding her voice. I 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: think that's starting to happen for me because I'm just like, yeah, like, 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm not going to take on your bullshit. I used 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: to personalize everything that people do as like I did 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: something wrong, and I just like I don't have that 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: at me anymore, and I that's so healthy, I think, so, 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: I mean, especially for a codependent person. Well, look, I'm 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: really guilty of it too, because I don't know that 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm codependent, because to be honest, I don't even know 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: what that means. But you've done worth therapy than me. 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: But I want everybody to like me. So when I 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: feel like someone's mad at me, I internalize it and 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: blame myself, and so I try to avoid that. And 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: the truth is that most of the time when people 30 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: are mad about something, I mean that's not always to 31 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: either can be valid reasons to be mad about stuff, 32 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: but like a lot of times people are just projecting 33 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: what's happening in now. And I'm starting to realize that 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: I have had that experience the last two years. And 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: it's slowly but surely kind of like, yeah, the fox left, 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: let it go. This is like the music episode by 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: two non musicians. Um, well, as there is there anything 38 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: that you feel like you should tell us? There any 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: life updates that have happened to you since you shoot 40 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: your pants? I mean no, look other than like I 41 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: appreciate that, like people's reaction to it, Like I'm actually 42 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: not embarrassed people. Every seems like everyone is their pants. 43 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: I think that's probably right. Yeah, it's like, look, there's 44 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: probably a handful of people who haven't, but most people 45 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: are liars if they say they haven't, right, I mean, 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: at least they had a little charge, Like none of 47 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: us are running around trying to shoot our pants. That 48 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: would be something you didn't need some major therapy if 49 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: that was your intention for the day. I would just 50 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: thinking that. I bet you there is that there is 51 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: there is like scat which is like po sex. What 52 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: it's called scott. I don't even want to go into it. 53 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: I actually think I do know about it. Or isn't 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: there that thing where it's like a girl like ships 55 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: on you or something. There's a little way to start 56 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: the podcast. Hey, happy Friday, guys. I don't know if 57 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: this is truly like a sexual fantasy kind of thing, 58 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: but I've also seen like because I see I think 59 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: it's more of like joke memes that I've been sent 60 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: that are disgusting. We're like someone's laying under a glass 61 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: table and someone above is standing and that I think 62 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: there's something where like a girl ships in a cup 63 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: or something. Well, there's two girls one cup that was 64 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: like that disgusting video or two girls ship and the 65 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: cup and then they ate it watching it. I never 66 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: could watch it, but there are a lot of videos 67 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: of people making their grandparents watch it that like disgusting, 68 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: But that's not a sexual thing. I don't really remember 69 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: the details of the video because I didn't see it, 70 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: but I think that like they're like eating it and 71 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: making out. But I also don't know that it's actually verified. 72 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: I can't even process that. I mean, I'm sure there 73 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: are people out there into somehow time poop into sex. 74 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: That is not me personally. I would never do that intentionally, 75 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just getting just kidding, okay, But I 76 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: do appreciate that people like it was well received. Yes, yes, yes, 77 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: yes yes yes, Um, you were just telling me a 78 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: story about your big like because obviously the shipping your 79 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: pants started with a Kato shake, and you were just 80 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: telling me a story about your big temptation right now. 81 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people can probably identify 82 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: with this. It's fucking girl Scout cookie season. I mean, 83 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: your voice just drop. I tried to sound like a 84 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: radio announcer. Here's a little known fact, okay, and I 85 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: don't even know where I got this fact, so it 86 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: might be a lie, but I feel like I read 87 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: somewhere that the thin Mint is the third best selling 88 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: cookie in America and it's only available for a limited time, 89 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: Like it's behind Oreos and chips. Ahoy. Wow. Really the 90 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: volume of thin Mints that the Girl Scouts are hawking, 91 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: it's astronomical. And I gotta say, like, there's other Girl 92 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: Scout cookies that I like, but the thin Mint I 93 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: think is just the classic. Really, I'm a Samoa's girl myself. 94 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: I like some I like the tag alongs to the 95 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: one with the peanut butter and chocolate to. Actually that's 96 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: the one I like. You get like twelve in a box, right, 97 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: they kind of jippy the mints you get two sleeves. 98 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: I okay, So maybe I like the tag alongs. Is 99 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: that the one with like the coconut? No, that's some 100 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: I was okay. I did not like when they change 101 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: the light yeah, Like why do they keep changing the names? 102 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: Like I need to know, like a thin mint has 103 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: been a fucking thin mint forever. I mean that's probably 104 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: why it's the number one seller. Yeah, so I ordered 105 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: some thin Ments and um, I knew I did it 106 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: even after I was had committed to doing keyto but 107 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, we all get it cheated 108 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: every now and then and then in a day keeps 109 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: the doctor away, you know, yeah, you know what, I 110 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: should look to see how many grams of carbs are 111 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: and then like maybe I could have one or two 112 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: a day my car. But so, but I also had 113 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: a plot who is legitimately addicted tots? And when my 114 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: friend texted me and said that his daughter was signing them, 115 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: I was like, give me some and I've got your 116 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: best customer. I'm gonna let her know and then Wenna 117 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: connect you all. So he texted me yesterday and said 118 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: the cookies are in and we arranged to meet this 119 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: morning for breakfast, and he brought my cookies. Well, mine 120 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: came in a bag, you know, a shopping bag that 121 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: he was re using. Hers came in a box because 122 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: she bought ten boxes and there's twelve in a case. Yeah, 123 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: so she's I texted her last night. I was like, 124 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: are you around because the cookies arrived, and she was like, 125 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm on my way to Asheville. I literally never leave 126 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: my house and some for some reason, I decided to 127 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: Ashville this weekend. So I'm foaming at the mouth and 128 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: I can't believe my con So I sent her a 129 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: picture of them, like I have been safely stashed in 130 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: my covered like I don't a leg like thin shipping box. Yeah. 131 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: So I'm acting very casual about the finance that are 132 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: now in my freezer. If I could make it through 133 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: today without in the box, that's a really good sign. 134 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: There you go. It's like a goal. My goal is 135 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: to model today. Okay, Well, I actually love that you 136 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: just tied in a casual because that segues perfectly into 137 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: my what I'm going to talk about from my topic 138 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: of the week. UM. I had a branding conversation yesterday 139 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: with body Bones just ahead of my network for a 140 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: national podcast network, and our producer and just it was 141 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: like the team that works on my podcast, and I 142 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: was like, you know, it's just like I just feel 143 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: like I'm not fully connecting the Wednesday podcast to the 144 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: Friday podcast, and like my personality is both sides. Like 145 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: I feel very much like I'm this like deep thinker, 146 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: emotionally driven. UM. I love working about like talking about 147 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: like healing and trauma that we've experienced and how we 148 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 1: can get past that and people's stories and just diving 149 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: deep into like real stuff. That's like one of my 150 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: biggest passions. And then I also like to sit here 151 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: with you and drink and talk about stupid ships and 152 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: this left like shipping your ings and things like you know, 153 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: sex and daties that are just funny and it's like, 154 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: I just maybe they're uncomfortable for some people to talk 155 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: about that for us and for me specifically, like I 156 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: love to talk about the things that make other people 157 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: uncomfortable more. I mean, I think part of the goal 158 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: of that is to try to normalize some of this 159 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: conversation exactly, and it does. It's like that's the feedback 160 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: we keep getting. And so anyway we start talking about that, 161 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: and you know, Bobby was like, well, what is your 162 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: goal with Velvet Edge, And I was like, genuinely, I 163 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: just want to build this community where we can talk 164 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: about whatever it is, and we can talk about the 165 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: soft side of things, like the velvet side of things, 166 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: and we can also talk about the edgy side of things, 167 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: like people who like to have sex and with poop 168 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: or right, you know, we don't agree with that, but 169 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: like you know, it's just all of it. And he's like, 170 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: you already have a brain to Ben Kelly, you just 171 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: got to rename it. And I was like what And 172 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: he's like, Wednesday is the velvet and Friday is the edge. 173 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: It's so simple, it's so bad. I was so mad 174 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: that he came up with what I've been saying. It's 175 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: like years, and I why did I never think of that? 176 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: This is what I should be Like I said that 177 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, and so de just not you 178 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: were definitely drinking. But anyway, so we are going to 179 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: start kind of moving in that direction on this podcast. 180 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: We're not going to obey inon at casual. How could we? 181 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean we always have to remember that. Yeah, Like 182 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: I think the edgy side of things is trying to 183 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: figure out how to act casual in these really bizarre situations. 184 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: Are these really hard situations and funny topics and stuff 185 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: like that. But in my we we are working towards 186 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: kind of renaming some of the things and labeling them 187 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: because all of the new users coming in are like, 188 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: what's that casual? How does this tie in? Like that's 189 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: the feedback I get from people, and they're just kind 190 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: of confused, and so I really want to make it 191 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: clear for people and easy to understand. So you keep 192 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: showing up that we keep growing this community and that's 193 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: my And honestly, it's like you've come. It's you have 194 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: to sort of act casual and lean into the feedback 195 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: and if you want to grow and change and do 196 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: all the things that you need to do to keep 197 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: this community growing and thriving. And it's like you can't 198 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: have to be open to But the thing was, the 199 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: reason he even called the meeting is because it is 200 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: growing and thriving and he's seeing that, and so he's like, 201 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: this is working, and we need to just push further 202 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: because like, I want you to keep going to the 203 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: next level. And of course I hating too, and so 204 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: and that's been where I have been personally in my 205 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: own life is like I feel like the last couple 206 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: of years, I've really had to tap back into like 207 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: who am I? What is my goal? And like what 208 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: is my purpose here? And you know, there's been a 209 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: lot of really hard stuff I think all of us 210 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: have gone through that's opened up some deeper thinking stuff. 211 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: But then I'm also like, yeah, but I've also really 212 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: opened up into like this fun side of me and 213 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: like don't sucking fox me in. You know, I want 214 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: to be serious sometimes, but I also want to be 215 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: fun and funny and like laugh and um yeah, I 216 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: think you can do both. And so I think that 217 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: is something that people try to get labeled into one thing, 218 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: and I'm not one thing. So I just can't ever 219 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: live that way, right. So that's where Velvet's Edge has 220 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: always really worked for me as a brand, um with 221 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: my personality, and I need to just name it that 222 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more totally and a little the beauty 223 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 1: in the platform, you know, the fact that this is 224 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: a podcast and it's not just a radio show. The 225 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: fact that like that exists for us to go. Oh, 226 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: I wonder if my card is little because it's not recording. 227 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean, we have it. It's time to last right 228 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: here on camera, guys. Look who fund up, Look whip, 229 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm now I'm card of like, get this ship off me. 230 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: I can't use that clip, okay. So, in speaking of 231 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: tying to the velvet to the edge, which is what 232 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: we were just discussing, Um, I did a podcast earlier 233 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: this week. It's on the velvet side of things with 234 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: this wonderful musician. Kayle was sure, I'm get obsessed with her. 235 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: She's an ivy coming girl and she's awesome. It's a 236 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: bad act. I mean, let's just say she's both a 237 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: velvet and the edge, but she um. She was telling 238 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: me a story about her new song that's out now. 239 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: The reason they even released this song, it's called Amy. 240 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: It went viral on TikTok like immediately because the topic 241 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: is and it's true for Kaylee's life. One of her 242 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: best friends started dating or hooking up with her boyfriend 243 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: of six six years, like a couple of weeks after 244 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: they broke up. So we were talking about it. I'm like, 245 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, why do you think this like hits 246 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: about she goes Unfortunately. I think it's because so many 247 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: people could identify and they have gone through a similar 248 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: experience and it's just crazy. We should actually, let's just 249 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: play a clip from the song so people can kind 250 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: of get the vibe, because it's pretty like edgy that 251 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 1: what did you describe it as earlier? I said it 252 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: this is could go over a lot of people's heads, 253 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: but it's like nineties all sort of grunge rock. It 254 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: reminds me of like Julianna Hatfield and Liz Fair and 255 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: those kind of like the edgy like Balls to the 256 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: Wall women that last spoke the truth. I just love 257 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: that she just calls it out. It's Atlantis. It's got 258 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: some of that like, oh yeah, here it is. That's 259 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: gonna be my head all fucking night. I love how 260 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: to the point she is we watch, it's so specific. 261 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: That's what I think really makes it work because she 262 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: paints the perfect picture. You can walk through the trauma 263 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:46,239 Speaker 1: with her and there's no like dancing around the subject 264 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: like she is like goes right for the jugular. She 265 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: totally does. She calls the girl out. I mean we 266 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: watched the TikTok version of the video that she released 267 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: or whatever, and she gets because what happened is is 268 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: Amy is also a musician. And Kaylee said she knew 269 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: she had this like weird gut feeling, you know, like 270 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: something is weird, something is up, and um, she just 271 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: didn't trust her gut. And that was part of the 272 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: huge discussion that we had on the podcast, was like, 273 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: especially if you're an intuitive person, you just gotta figure 274 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: out how to trust that intuition versus your anxiety. You know, 275 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: which is very difficult balance. Like I really struggle with 276 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: that myself. But so she was like, my intuition knew 277 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: that something was up, and like Amy was kind of 278 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: avoiding me. But again, this girl is like borrowing my clothes, 279 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: borrowing my guitar. Baris just like she was like, and 280 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: then I guess she just borrowed my ex. But but 281 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: then to some time went by, I think Kaylee and 282 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: her ex kind of hooked up a couple more times, 283 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: as you do after a breakup sometimes, and she said 284 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: something was just off and she just felt it, and 285 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: sure enough she got the validation way later that like 286 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: Amy had released a whole album about this guy, using 287 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: his name, and so I think she was just like 288 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: on the TikTok she said something like, well, since using names, 289 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: this song is called I Love It. Yeah, I was 290 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: gonna ask you because that's a part of the story. 291 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: I didn't know. It was like how much time had 292 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: passed between the breakup and Amy's album and now this song. Okay, 293 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: So what she said in the podcast, and you guys 294 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: should go check out this podcast just because she's so awesome. Anyway, 295 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: She's gone through so many things. We talked about her 296 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: sister overdosing on heroin and how she got to the 297 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: other side of that. It's it's it's truly incredible story. 298 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: This was just one of the pieces. But um, she 299 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: they broke up Kaylee and the boy broke up. A 300 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: couple of weeks went by, I guess before he started 301 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: hooking up with Amy, and he was also simultaneously still 302 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: hooking up with Kaylee. Like this guy too, sounds like 303 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: he was such a douche, Like he got abusive with Kaylee, 304 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: he was like cheating on her. Just not a good dude. 305 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: So like it's in like Amy knew all that, Like 306 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't like Amy was like, Oh, this guy's such 307 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: a catch, Like she's like of all guys you know. Um, So, 308 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: some time goes by and then she met up with 309 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: the X and just like she said, they were going 310 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: to have like a closure eating which is also just 311 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: such bullshit, and um she just said to him I 312 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: know about Amy and she just like knew she said 313 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: she she actually didn't, but so I'm not sure she 314 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: had the like exact validation. But so then he was like, 315 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: how do you know? So then he basically told rights, 316 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: yeah exactly. And so the whole thing was just like 317 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: and so then it was like, I think a year 318 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: went by before Amy put that album out. But then 319 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: that gave Kayleie because she said she held onto the story. 320 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: She had written some stuff about it, but it was 321 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: all just so emotionally charged and like angry, and she 322 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: was like, I just didn't want to throw her under 323 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: the bus, especially if I didn't have this like full 324 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: blown reasoning. She's like, I mean we were broken up, 325 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: like it's not really girl code, but I don't know, 326 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: I just felt like hateful. But then Amy wrote a 327 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: whole album about this guy, and she was just like seriously, 328 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: like there's a lyric in the song that's like I 329 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: had six years, you had six nights exactly. So I 330 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: mean assuming from how like point did all of the 331 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: other lyrics are, Like I'm hoping that is an exact 332 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: fact too, because if it is, it really just shows 333 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: the level of the betrayal. You know, I look, I 334 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: I one of my best friends is now married and 335 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 1: has two kids with one of her really good friends 336 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: ex really good friends ex boyfriends and um, and you know, 337 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: obviously when you're in the heat of that moment and 338 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: that's going down, like it feels like a betrayal. But 339 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: and I can remember like talking about it and her 340 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: being like, Okay, so if one of your best friends 341 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: sees amazing qualities and a guy, why wouldn't you think 342 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: that maybe I might see them? And which I totally get. 343 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: And obviously I was siding with my friend because I 344 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: was closer with her anyway, But like her justification is 345 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: is like, it's not that far fetched that I might 346 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: see some of those same qualities anyway that you saw. 347 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: And then look at the obviously the payout was the 348 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: payoff was different because they're married and they have two kids, 349 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: and it was like, you know who that old friend, 350 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: Like you need that anymore? But like in this case, 351 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: are you willing to throw away your friendship for six 352 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: nights of fucking well? I think that's I think that's 353 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: the big question, and we caught it girl code, But 354 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: I actually wonder if this is more like friend code 355 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: in general. Like I just so there's a couple of 356 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: things like what you said, so I think there's a 357 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: way to go about it, right, Like if you said, 358 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: like you say, see some really amazing qualities in a person, 359 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: and they maybe work more compatibly with your personality than 360 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: another person. Then okay, Like, but why wouldn't you go 361 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: talk to your friend first? That's where it gets shady 362 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: to me, Like if you could, if you could go 363 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: sit your friend down and be like, hey, look, I 364 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: think it's also a time thing, like maybe you let 365 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: some time go by. Maybe it's like because this was 366 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: clearly just like a rebound hookup, right, And look, sometimes 367 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: and I'm playing Devil's advocate here, sometimes it just happens. 368 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: You can still then go have the conversation be like 369 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: this is a really hard thing for me to say, 370 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: but this happened last night, right. You know it's tough, 371 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: but it is. It's a question you have to ask yourself, 372 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: is how valuable is the friendship? Right? Because like if 373 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: it's a valuable friendship, maybe it's just not worth it. 374 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: Like there's a bunch of fish in the sea. I mean, 375 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: I guess there'sn't really that many great guys, but like, sorry, 376 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: that's my person one mine too, um, but it's like 377 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: it just seems like there's so many other people. Like 378 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: is this guy really the only guy you can go 379 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: date or hook up with? I will say in my 380 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: friends instance, she did man up and go tell her friend, 381 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: which you know, that's when the whole thing imploded. You know. 382 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: How did the friend take it terribly? Yeah, terribly, and 383 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: I mean she hates my friend. Yeah. They just could 384 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: never Yeah, and they were really close, they were really good. Swallow. 385 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, especially if you've been with someone 386 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: for six years, and especially if the breakup was really 387 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: bad and he treated you poorly. Well, that wasn't the 388 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: case in this situation. And this was like she broke 389 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: up with him and kicked her, kicked him out of 390 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: the house and said we're over see. That to me 391 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: opens it up for like a different situation. It's like, 392 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: especially if she ended the relationship, It's like your friend said, 393 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I'm seeing these qualities that really work 394 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: well with mine, and um, I think if you were involved, 395 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: I would hope, if you were an evolved person, that 396 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: you could be like, Okay, go for it, you know, 397 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: or whatever. But I could see where you would need 398 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: to take some space too, because like I wouldn't be 399 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: able to be around that friend being like you're dating 400 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: my actually kidding, especially if like I just keep going 401 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: bag if it ended really bad, I think that would 402 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: be really hard. Um, Well, you also said like maybe 403 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: it's friend code. I think that, Um, And this is 404 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: obviously a blanket statement, but I think the reason why 405 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: you probably were thinking girl code is like you kind 406 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: of expect a dude to do that stuff like that, 407 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: like fortunately, yeah, and if you almost like kind of 408 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: think like a dude would high five his friend for 409 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: like banging his ex girlfriend, Like I don't know, like 410 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: guys are gross and and I guess it would depend 411 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: again on how the relationship ended, Like if he ended it, 412 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: he might be like I don't care, Um, that happened 413 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: my X. I remember him telling me a story once 414 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: about a dude kind of doing that, like being like, hey, 415 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: do you care, Like I'm with this girl right now 416 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna maybe try to take her home like 417 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: they had dated like six months, and my X was like, no, honestly, 418 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: my boyfriend now. Um. He he one of his best 419 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: friends in college or I guess grad school came approached 420 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: him about a girl he had dated for like five 421 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: years and was like, Hey, I'm really interested in X, 422 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: and um he was like like in what capacity? It 423 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: was like, he was like, because if you're going after 424 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: her just to like hook up like go after someone else, 425 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 1: but like if you really are interested and whatever, and 426 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: now those two are married with kids and like, yeah, 427 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: my boyfriend still like talks to them, and it's like 428 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: literally that that's how a friend, a respectful friend, goes 429 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: about it. But I would sometimes it just happens to 430 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: like because I don't want to take anything away from 431 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: my friend, and like the route that she because I 432 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: think it did like I think it caught her off 433 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: guard and then looking back, she was like, I mean 434 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: we were really good friends and I was like helping 435 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: him in a time of need, and we just got 436 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: closer and then things evolved. Yeah you know, yeah, I'm 437 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: just trying to put myself in that situation. The other 438 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: thing I would think about being the new person coming 439 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: in is how do you not think about them with 440 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: the X? Like I imagine over time that gets easier, 441 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: but like at the beginning, especially if you're your friend, 442 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: you're like, were they in this bed? Like I just 443 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: like could just get me cringe. Like, well, the good 444 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: news is like there were there was like a west coast, 445 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: East coast thing like he was living in all and 446 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: got sent back to New York, so they never it 447 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: was never the same bed. So yeah, so do you 448 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: buy into friend coat or do you think that's kind 449 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 1: of silly? Um No, I think it exists for a reason, 450 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: and you know, look for for me, I live away 451 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: from my family, so my friends are my family, and 452 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: um you know, they're my chosen family, and it's the 453 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: last thing I would rather die than, like I heard 454 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: a friend. Then again, I've never really been in a 455 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: situation where like, I have feelings for somebody that used 456 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: to date a friend of mine either, you know, so 457 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: I want to actually go on the record and say 458 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: I've never had feelings for a friend's man, husband anything. 459 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: I dropped that. Mike had to go ahead and put 460 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: that one out there. You know, every now and again, 461 00:23:54,800 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: I still have to stick it. Speaking of girls, um, 462 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: so I was reading I've found I've found some articles 463 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: because I was like, what actually is girl code? And 464 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: this is a definition I found on this thing called 465 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: gin twenty, which made me feel really fucking old, and 466 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: I was like, this is the website I'm gonna get 467 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: a topic from. But it said girl code is the 468 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: unwritten and often unspoken set of rules ethics that exist 469 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: between a girl and her best friends. Simply stated, girl 470 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: codes are the commandments that outline the dudes and don't 471 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: have a good friendship. Whether the rules are implicit or explicit, 472 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: they're generally what can make or break a friendship. So 473 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: under this they have like a list of the dudes 474 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, like, do you support your friends hobby, hobbies 475 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: and passions. Don't deliberately try to outshine your friends. Do 476 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: you support your friends dating lives, but don't let them 477 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: date someone who treats her poorly. Do you confide in 478 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: your friends for any problems. Don't go blab this problems 479 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 1: to other friends. This is the one where is it? 480 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: It says, of course I can't find it when I 481 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: need it. Gosh, we are so professional here. I was 482 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: going to say on that casual but on the edge anyway, 483 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: it was. It's it's literally the one that says do 484 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: not hook up with your friends. Out here we go. 485 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: Do comfort your friend when she goes through a bad 486 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: breakup or relationship. Don't date, hook up, become best friends 487 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: with the jerk who broke her heart. Instead, find someone else. 488 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: There plenty offficient to see why go for someone who 489 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: has proved to be the king of jerkovs and who 490 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: hurt your friend. So that's what's interesting about Kaylee's story. 491 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: It's like this girl Amy goes and writes this whole 492 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: album about this dude, right, and she's like, what did 493 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: you think he was going to do to you? Like 494 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: he literally was abusive, He was like an asshole, he 495 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: cheated on me. Why would that be the guy that 496 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: you're like, Oh, this is a good idea, that just 497 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. I think there's a line in 498 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: her song where she says like, um, he like something 499 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: about the guy was trying to get over me while 500 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: you were under him. Oh god, it's so good. There's 501 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: also a line about saying that you know I'm gonna 502 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: butcher it, like for the rhyme, but it's she says 503 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: something about like I hear you said the sex was 504 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: good while he learned it from me, And it's like 505 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: such a great sweet kill. It's so good. People don't 506 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: know what a sweet kill is. That's the term we use. Really, 507 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: I mean, do you want to explain it? A sweet kill? 508 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: People know that term? I don't know. I mean that 509 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: was Dirk's band, So really I feel like that's funny. 510 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: It's well, a sweet kill is like when you like 511 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: basically slap someone in a nice way. It's right, you know, 512 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: I don't really know. It's I feel like if you 513 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: hear the term sweet kill, you know all right. I 514 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean I just assumed it was a 515 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: popular thing. I guess I need to ask the people. 516 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: Can we is it on Urban Dictionary? If it's one 517 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: Urban Dictionary, they have some problems because they t med it. 518 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: But I don't know is it one word or two words? 519 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: I always do it as one word sweet kill. It 520 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: was also a movie. Oh wow, they've got some big issues. 521 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: I need to talk to their trademark people. Yeah, anyway, 522 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: sweet kill. I mean it was a movie in nineteen 523 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: seventy two, So I don't know who's TM. They got 524 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: a t M. Maybe the TM's a joke. You never 525 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: know what this has. Anyway, it's it's it's yeah, it's 526 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: when you say something in a semi nice manner, but 527 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: it's actually like an insult. Well, it's like, bless your 528 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: Heart is a sweet kill. Yeah. I actually don't know 529 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: if Kaylee's song is a sweet killer or a street kill. 530 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: I mean it's pretty straightforward, like anyway. She does not 531 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: mince any words. And it's very well played. That's all 532 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: I have to say. Um, Okay, you guys could check 533 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: out the song Amy. Actually, go listen to the podcast 534 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: with Kaylie Shore. She was awesome and I loved having 535 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: her on UM. She's also on the Nashville Podcast Network. 536 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: She also has a podcast called Too Much to Say 537 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: that's really interesting and funny, So go check her out. 538 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: Are you ready for some listener messages, chick? Yes, a 539 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: lot of them had to do with your pants, great shucker, 540 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: or any of them from like, um, you know, like 541 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,479 Speaker 1: it depends or anything like saying they want to sponsor us. 542 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: I love the Hustle always out for a sponsorship, no 543 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: matter who it is. It's like depends. He's like, is 544 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: there a Maxi Patty adult diaper? If you pay me? 545 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: Who are you? Lisa Rima like she does like anything 546 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: and every anything and everything. I mean, I really do 547 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: respect the Hustle, but I'm not going to probably take 548 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: a sponsorship from depends. I think that's like calling it 549 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: too soon. I mean, is there anything more acting casual 550 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: than like wearing an adult diaper in your forties? No, 551 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 1: that's actually depressing, that's not and that's not it By 552 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: the way. We're not going there with the opposite of 553 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: edge wearing depends. Okay, so let's try to stay on 554 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: brand here. Okay, shif we just I'm like slipping out 555 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: of a diaper, let me just go slip into something 556 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: more comfortable and out of this type. So this comes 557 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: from Jenny Ray and she says, my husband should his 558 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: pants at work. Fortunately I wasn't too far away and 559 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: could take him clean clothes. It was like an undercover 560 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: ops getting him the clothes. He would text me if 561 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: someone walked in and left the bathroom. I had to 562 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: toss in the clean clothes in a grocery bag while 563 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: he was in the stall. Of course, he was in 564 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: the furthest stall, so I ran out of his office 565 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: building and so no one would see me. It's pretty funny. 566 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: There's like an undercover ops to bring him new clothes 567 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: because he should. She had to like sneak him into 568 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: the bedroom. Like what's the message? The husband sends to 569 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: the wife, Hey, babe, I'm hiding in the stall on 570 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: the third floor, hiding in the stall. You're at home. 571 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: Can you get some clothes? Put him in like an 572 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: inconspicuous bag and bring them to me. Put on a 573 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: mustache and a nose glasses and speak into the men's room. Yeah, well, 574 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean, good thing he had a cell phone in 575 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: the bathroom with him, right, What if he hadn't at 576 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: the wattle out, he'd be like he'd be doing that 577 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: trick that girls have to do when they started their 578 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: period in public. We have to take paper towels and 579 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: like our toilet paper and like stuff. I'm in your underwears, 580 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: beleet all over yourself. It's fucking disgusting. You homemade pad, 581 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: You wouldn't need that if he had to depend on 582 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: exactly then just really does cover so many basics you 583 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: just never know. Okay, this is from Christina, She said, yep, 584 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: never trust a fart. I thank god I was in 585 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: the bathroom at my own home standing over a rugg 586 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: Or Matt and wearing athletic shorts without the built in underwear. 587 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: Such a proud moment. Wow. I hope it didn't stay 588 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: in that rug Or she s She said, Rugger Matt 589 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: slash Matt. Yeah, I guess it's a bath Matt. You 590 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: can just yeah, Nicole says, real life, never trust a 591 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: fart happened this this week to yours truly. I'm working 592 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: from home though, but still fun. I feel so seen 593 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: right now, you guys, like, God, what a community. You 594 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: started shout out to Chip in the v podcast for 595 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: keeping it real and actually acting casual while it's literally 596 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: shooting your pants. I mean, it's just so good. I mean, 597 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: this is how I'm going to be remembered. This is 598 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: your legacy. This is from warrant hearra. I'm sorry, Hey, Kelly. 599 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: I was listening to the podcast about Chip shooting his 600 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 1: pants today and was laughing out loud. Haven't we as 601 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: adults all been there. I was driving in my car 602 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: at that moment, laughing along and sweating, simultaneously hoping I 603 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: made it home to poop in the toilet instead of 604 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: joining Chip and having to recount this story. Well, I 605 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: told you anyway, bodies are so fucking weird. What do 606 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: you mean? They're also amazing. They're amazing, but it's like 607 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: they like I love it every now and then they 608 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: need to show up and be like, you ain't in control, 609 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: you don't drove me. That's literally your asshole talking to you. 610 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my god. I'm gonna have that 611 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: in my head. Every reason I have to go to 612 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: the bathroom. Um, okay, So remember last week we read 613 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: that message from Billy, and it was this whole thing 614 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: about that, there was all the pieces of that that 615 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: layered relationship. Like her fiance, we thought, we think he's 616 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: her fiance, has a baby mama and an ex wife. 617 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: He has two children with the ex wife. The baby 618 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: mama has one and the baby mama is not okay 619 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: with him with new people, and and moved away kind 620 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: of threatens his relationship with the kid. So he was 621 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: like kind of not telling her or whatever. Well, so 622 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: Billy wrote back the lady that initially sent us the 623 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: email because she didn't put a date in the email 624 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: about when they got engaged, and so remember we talked 625 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: about that. We were like, it just kind of depends 626 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: and like maybe he's just trying to find the right time. 627 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: And like she'd said December, so I thought, oh, I mean, 628 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: maybe he's like trying to figure it out. Well, she 629 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: wrot me back and said, Hey, Kelly, I was your 630 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: email last week. I just wanted to clarify that we 631 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: got engaged in twenty nineteen and I'm still waiting on 632 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: him to tell her. I wish I believed it was 633 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: about his son, as I'm as much as I think 634 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: it's about her feelings. Man, I mean ship, I would 635 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: be like, you have until Monday to tell her, or 636 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to well, or it depends on how much 637 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: she wants to marry him. That's my point is is 638 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: I don't know that it's Billy's place to go tell 639 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: this baby mama, but I would have some big hang 640 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: ups on that relationship, big time. Like I think she's 641 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: setting a bad precedent by not pushing the issue, Like 642 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: you know, if she plans on marrying him, she needs 643 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: to force this issue. My point is is, I don't 644 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: know that it's her place to go tell baby mama, 645 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: but it is her place to be, like, either you 646 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: tell her or this relationship is over kind of thing, 647 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: Like I don't feel like an ultimatum, especially this is 648 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: over a year later. Yeah, but you might as well. 649 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: Like if I were in her shoes and I really 650 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: wanted to marry him, I would say I would give 651 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: the ultimatum and be like, well, we'll find out how 652 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: she's going to react, because I'm going to tell her 653 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: on Monday if you don't, and it will either go 654 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: well or they won't get married, and it's the same outcome. 655 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: You know. I will tell you this. When I had 656 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: a hunch that my ex fiance was cheating on me, 657 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: I knew it in my gut. Like I finally got 658 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: to a place and I literally I went like, you know, 659 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: you just like have something in your gut and someone 660 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: is gaslighting you in lines and you're like you just 661 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: fucking know, though, but you don't have the proof necessarily. 662 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: I got to this place where I was like, if 663 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: you There was one night where I just like knew 664 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: and I couldn't sleep, and I remember going into the 665 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: room that he was in and saying to him at 666 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: six a him, I am called like I knew one 667 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: of the girls in my head for some reason, like 668 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: I had this is such a strong gut feeling. I 669 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: was like, if you don't tell me something, I'm calling 670 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: this person at six am. And at five five he 671 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: walked into the room that I was because I was 672 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 1: not sleeping in the same room with that fucking asshole, 673 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: he watched in the room I was in and said, Okay, 674 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: I cheated on you. Once I found out it later, 675 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: it was like seven times. Yeah, But like I lie there, buddy, 676 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: because that's what everyone says, right at least say twice, 677 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: it sounds like you're actually telling the he would do 678 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: it on the road. So yeah, but like I just 679 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: knew it was like it was the most sad and 680 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 1: also validating. It was like both emotions to me because 681 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I knew I wasn't crazy, and I 682 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: felt so fucking crazy, but then it was like, it's 683 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: really sad obviously. But like my point is is that 684 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: does work. What you're saying is to be like to 685 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: like if Billy, like, if there's any part of this 686 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: equation where Bill it's not about feeling and it's about 687 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: he's just scared of losing his kid, then as a 688 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: unified front, Billy can be like and bitch, if you 689 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: think this information is going to give you any AMMO 690 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: to take that child away, you've got two people coming 691 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: for you. Like that ain't happening now, what I mean, like, 692 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: be on his side a little bit, but I think 693 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: you have there. There's only one way to get to 694 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: the bottom of it. Create an ultimatum something in sitting 695 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: right with me that he's waited every year. Yeah, that's weird. 696 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean he's either lying or the biggest pussy I've 697 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: ever heard of, literally, Right, So do you want to 698 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: marry that? I don't know, because if you really love 699 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: your kid and you're so conflicted. But I think if 700 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: Billy's like, I'm in this fight with you, fuck this bitch, 701 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 1: she's not taking your kid. Yeah, yeah, then maybe he'll 702 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: man up and be like, you know what, we can 703 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: win this fight. Yeah. I mean I think I think 704 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: it's like hard because if it was December, I would 705 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, he's still just trying to figure it out. 706 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: And I know this is the deal with a lot 707 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: of dudes. If they don't have the tools to do something, 708 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: like they don't know how to say it or do it, 709 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: they just shut down. And so we think we said 710 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: that a little bit of that last week was just 711 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, guys get overwhelmed and then 712 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 1: they're just like, Oh, I just don't want to deal. 713 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: I just don't want to deal. I just don't want 714 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: to deal. But this has been over a year, and 715 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: so in that time he could have done a lot 716 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: of things. Gone to talk to a therapist, gone to 717 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: talk to a fucking lawyer, gone to talk to like 718 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of options if it really is as 719 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: cut and dry as this is about the kids. So 720 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: that's what Billy is saying, Like I really want to 721 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: think that, but like I just it's not adding up 722 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: and I can't say that I don't side with her, right, 723 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just know why I'm I think 724 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: we're both siding with her if she stayed in it 725 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: this long she wants it to work. I think you're right, 726 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: so I'm trying to give her advice to make it 727 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: work where I think you're also you're kind of being 728 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: like he got the goat. Well, the reason I feel 729 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: like this is maybe a bigger like because marriage is 730 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 1: a big deal obviously, and I look at this fact 731 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: and like if he's not being truthful or there's something shady, 732 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: like something isn't adding up in my gut about it, 733 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: and so I'm kind of like, do you really want 734 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: to walk into a marriage with a person that you 735 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: might not that's not really trustworthy like at whatever capacity, 736 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: Like I don't know what's happening, and maybe it is. 737 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: He's just like overwhelmed it doesn't know how to handle it. 738 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: But like that's not gonna be the only time in 739 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: life that that happens like life is fucking hard. Yeah, 740 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: I mean that's that. That's a really good point. Like 741 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: you cannot, like you could walk out and get hit 742 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: by a bus tomorrow resolve ship, Like why is it 743 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: taking this long to resolve it? Right? You need you 744 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: need a man that like snaps into action, yeah, or 745 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: just that like if he doesn't know how to do something, 746 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: can communicate that and then maybe go find tools. Yeah, 747 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: Like I don't know how to do a lot of ships, 748 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: so then I go ask for help and that's hard 749 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,479 Speaker 1: to do for a lot of people. But I think 750 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: like once you get into adulthood, you're like, yeah, I 751 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: don't know what the funk I'm doing? How do I 752 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: get help? And how do I, you know, navigate this 753 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: relationship or this dynamic or this conversation. And that's just 754 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: life and that's also a key to a healthy relationship. 755 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: I think, like that's those are big things that I 756 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: look into in people in my adult relationships, not even 757 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 1: just romantic now friendships too, because I've been burned there too, 758 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: and you just start to be like, wait, if you 759 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: can't do this or you react this way, like how 760 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: does that manifest in other aspects of our relationship and 761 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: it always ends up being true, like unfortunately, so anyway, 762 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: somebody shows you who they are believing. People say that 763 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: all the time, all the time. It's so true. We're 764 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm I'm gullible into trusting and I've 765 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: caught myself like not listening to that advice too many times. 766 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: And it's you got it's there are good people out 767 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: there of that you're so much better spending your time with. 768 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: You know, whether it's a friendship or relationship whatever, trust 769 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: that gut. But it is hard when it's emotionally like, 770 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: when you're emotionally connected and your love, you've told your 771 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: family you're engaged. There's like there's been there. There's a 772 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: lot to unravel with something like that. Absolutely so Billy 773 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: Well wishes to you, sending you all the love and 774 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: light in this decision. Let us know what happens, because 775 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: I don't want we got your bad girl. Do we 776 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: need to go take someone out because we're not We're not. 777 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: This is the edge. Okay, we won't wear our depends 778 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: one day and we will literally take this guy out 779 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: with ship. There we go. We can mail them our depends. Yeah, 780 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: we got you, boo. Anyway, you guys, please keep the 781 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: messages coming. I love them so much. You can message 782 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: us or email us at casual slow burn. Are we 783 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: going to have to change that? Probably the Edge at 784 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,280 Speaker 1: dot com. I guess so before now it's at casually 785 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: at vel Edge. This is going to be a slow process. 786 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: It's a slow unraveling, slow renaming, a slow rebranding. It's 787 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: not rebranding though, it's renaming. It's a slowing slow come 788 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: to Jesus, transitioning, transitioning. Chip's gonna start wearing depens. I mean, 789 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things happening on the Edge. Anyway. 790 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: From the meantime, email us at casual at Velvet Edge 791 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 1: dot com. I'll keep you guys updated on that email name. 792 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: As a change. Well, we can always forward it too 793 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: true true, Um, you can always just message us on 794 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: Instagram to at Velvet Edge is mine and Chip is 795 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: at chips And what's our new tagline going to be? 796 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: How am I going to? I mean, you know what 797 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: is funny? I really always struggled with and always remember 798 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: casual ill maybe we should crowdsource that. What do you 799 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: guys think our new tagline should be? Like? How should 800 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: we end it. How about when you find the edge, 801 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: act casual? Wait what when you're on the edge. When 802 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: you find the edge, remember when you hit the edge, 803 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: act casually. You guys, help us out. I love processing 804 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: out loud to our people because you know that they're 805 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: listening to us. Like these idiots, just put on your 806 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: fucking opens and call it a day. Okay, Well, if 807 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 1: you're living on the edge, you should always remember act 808 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 1: casual sense. Okay, we gotta