WEBVTT - Lamar Odom 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.360 Who gets back first? Kanye and Kim Chloy and Lamar, 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:10.600 Kim and Kanye, All my life, Running all my life? Sacrifice, 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:14.560 hustle back prison. Want a slice? Got the brona dice 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.279 to swap all my life? I've been grinding all my life, 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:21.920 all my life? Then running all my life? Sacrifice, hustle 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:25.400 back prison, Want a slice? Got the brona dice to 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:30.400 swap all my life? I've been running all my life. Hello, 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:32.519 welcome to another edition of the the Club Shasha. I am 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.199 your host, also the Proprieder Club Shasha and the guy 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.040 that's stopping by for a drinking conversation today. Is a 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.040 two time NBA champ, NBA sixth Man of the Year, 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:44.400 Olympic medalist, one of the best basketball players to come 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:46.640 out of the state of New York. New York Times 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:50.200 best selling author, and reality TV star Lamar Odom Lamar. 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.120 How you doing, Rock, I'm good, Bro' never been better. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:56.400 Good to see you. You look good, I'm healthy. You help, sir. 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.560 Let's talk about you had a big new purchase that 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.680 was friending and everybody was talking about it. The grill, 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:04.920 The grill, the grill talk. Tell us about the grill. 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:09.520 I don't know. Just moved back to California, right, So 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:13.880 I got you moved back from Cali from where? From Atlanta? 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:18.080 How was Atlanta and what was it like? It was cool? 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:24.200 It was cool. I like Atlanta. You like it? But 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.840 I mean I went to the strip club last night. 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:33.200 I was there magic. I don't know which one was 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:40.440 it strokers? It was one one and the honest half 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.520 of the strip club. Half of the dudes. They had 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.880 their pistols on their hip. Oh yeah, Jordan, the state 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.080 of George. Yes, they open carry, so everybody can carry 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.520 a piece absolutely where I don't come from. I'm gonna 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.960 comfortable when I say a pistol. Yeah. You want my 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:53.840 grandfather to say, boy, if you gotta take a gun 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.440 to go somewhere, you don't need to be in that place. Yeah. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.760 So yeah, oh yeah, everybody, everybody straps everybody. You know, 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.320 this ain't the place with me. Now I have these 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.680 young dudes on drugs. You know what I'm saying, right Like, 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:06.840 it's probably time to get out of here, right out 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:08.800 of here. So tell us about the teeth you decided 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.200 to get you managed. My manager wanted me to get 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.840 new chief to Gina Rod Right. She wanted you to 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:19.760 get the new teeth man new Lamar. Yeah, I would 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:27.600 reverse the rebth of Lamar. Yeah, NBA legend. Let's go 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.079 back to the beginning, New York City. What was it 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.960 like growing up in South Jamaica, Queens? What did Lamar 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:37.400 old him always aspire to be? Uh, the next manage Johnson. 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:42.160 I think that's what kind of stirred me in the 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.720 right path, because that's what that's what everybody was saying. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:48.160 Sixteen guy, lefty, but can handle the ball. He wasn't 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.679 a center, he wasn't a four. He's the point. I 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:52.760 was a guard, Yeah, a point guard. I wish I 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.280 would have got drafted as a I wish I had 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.600 in college. I wish I would have laid my position 0:02:58.040 --> 0:02:59.959 point guard, right, because that's what I got. That was 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.639 what I would have got drafted at, right, And that's 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.400 what everybody would have played me as that's played my career. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.959 But because well, I mean, I think the thing is 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.320 because you were so versatile. Yes, you could handle the ball, 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:13.400 but you're skilled. You could play with your back to 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:16.919 the basket, YEA saying the point guard is different. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:18.560 you know what I'm saying. And being a player on 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.760 a court that can handle the ball right, you know 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:25.880 what I mean, totally different positions. So but and I 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.200 always played the game point guards, point of view right, 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.600 no matter what position I was. So in other words, 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:33.880 you wanted the ball to be more in your hand 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.000 because you felt you got Yeah, you are a guy 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.320 that just getting. But I understand, I understand the tempo 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.320 right on how to you know speed? If we should 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.320 push it on, slow it down right? I think that's 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:44.960 where I was always one of the two guards and 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.480 of the train of offense right, either me or Kobe 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.400 on me and fish. So as highly recruited as you 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:53.800 were coming out of the state of New York, why 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.920 did you choose Rhode Out? Oh that was a long story. 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.160 Well I was supposed to go to you in nov Okay, 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.480 but they said I had cheated on my SAT tests. Okay, 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:08.400 did you how how somebody sixteen black man gonna cheat 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.119 on the SAT tests? Yeah, it sain't well five three 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:18.240 first year dude, dude scored too much? So what you scored? Two? 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.120 Way too high? Hold at your question? What you score? 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.840 It's like almost like an eighteen hundred and something. Hold 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:24.760 you got eighteen? So what were your grades like in 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:29.120 high schools, like, damn there seventy So it didn't match up. Yeah, 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:33.800 you know what I'm saying, You're gonna be an average 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:37.040 student and you damn the start him he saw it 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:40.840 too much. You don't blame him not you know what 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.680 I'm saying. You don't blame him sitting. I mean he 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:45.920 was supposed to miss a few more quifers. Huh. Yeah, 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:47.680 So you go to roll out and you make the 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.040 most of a situation that you didn't want. You didn't 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:51.520 think you were gonna be it, so I had to be. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.880 I had to sit out one year. Okay, I played 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.440 the next year. I had a big time shot to 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.960 beat Temple Right, I'm started going to NBA. Okay, you 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.600 go to the NBA. You high an agent, So what 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:06.360 what what are you hearing when you when you go 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.480 to the draft camp and when you go visit these teams? 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:12.240 What are they telling Lamorrow? Though I could have been 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:16.960 a number one pick, no doubt in my mind, if 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.200 you had gone back another year in college or that 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:22.680 that year, I could have been in numb on pick. 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.279 But I had my interview with the Chicago Bulls, Okay, 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:31.920 and they didn't really go too well, how you f 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:36.000 up a job interview? Now about the interview A mom? No, no, 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.320 you know it was something like a really really personal 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:45.920 Jerry Krauss called blessing. Yeah. I was having dinner with him, right, 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:53.400 and he was He asked me, did I did I 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.880 have problems on the court concentrate in? Because my father 0:05:56.000 --> 0:06:01.120 was HIV positive. My father never had a discussion with 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:06.680 me before, right, and so, like I ain't know whether 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:11.600 to be offended or like gave him the question he wanted. 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.560 So I kind of like just rushed it. It was 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.040 like a dickhead to him, though, Okay, and if you're 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.680 like blew it, Okay, you lose your mom at a 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:22.520 very young age and colon cancer. Your dad I think 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:27.120 it addicted to heroin. Yeah, so he ended up contracting HIV. Yeah, 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.480 you never You and your dad never had that discussion. 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:37.600 Did you feel were you ashamed? It's because do you 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.600 feel you always? Sam? What's he ashamed? Because I don't 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.320 I don't know. I don't know because I don't I 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.600 don't think he I don't know if he knew my father. 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:48.640 Me and my father never had that conversation, right know, 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.760 If you know what type of relationship did you have 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:56.360 with your father at that time? It was it was 0:06:56.400 --> 0:07:00.720 getting better, Okay, getting better. Did did you feel that 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.600 once your mother had passed away that did you think 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.720 your father probably should have liked dad? You need to 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.840 clean up your act. You need to. I don't know 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.920 if you had siblings that you have sling So did 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.680 you feel your did you feel some type of way because, uh, 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:16.920 towards your dad? But no, I never really I never 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.160 really blamed him at that point in time. At that 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.800 point in time, I didn't really understand addiction. But I 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:28.480 kind of like really didn't blame him for his addiction. Okay, right, 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.920 I'm saying almost like felt pitiful for Did you wish 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:36.120 you had had that discussion to have a understanding of addiction? Yeah? 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.520 You say you was kind of a rest is soul 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.680 Jared Cross. You said you was kind of a lack 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.280 of a better word, dick head to him. So what 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.640 did you say? So when he asked you, he asked you, 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.800 how did you feel about your dad being an HIV positive? Yeah? 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.280 Well you remember not you're on a job interview. You 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.480 try to get this job. That's what you're trying to do. 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.119 You try to get this job. I don't even remember 0:07:55.120 --> 0:08:00.520 if I answered the question right. Did you felt it was? 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.240 Did you feel it was too personal of a question? 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.280 At that time, I had no idea that the NBA 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.920 was that they'd ask questions like that, you know what 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.000 I mean? Like that involved you thought it was You 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.480 thought it was gonna be all basketball related questions. Hot, Yeah, 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.160 how old when you started playing basketball? Who is your 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.320 favorite basketball player? I didn't really think they was gonna 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.320 be asking me questions about this neighborhood drug deal or 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:28.200 this guy from my neighborhood rush? Did you get so? 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.120 Like in the NFL to give you what they call 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.319 the one to lick tests, it was just standardized tests 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.320 to see your corn, you see how well your function, 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.760 and they ask questions. Do they give you a test 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:42.679 like that in the NBA? No, not that, No, not 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.600 to I can't remember nothing like that. I think they 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.880 more feel like they just know you from recruiting me. Right, 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:53.840 so watching when you're not watching? When? How well were 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.640 you prepared to do those interviews? Because, like you said, 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:58.360 you're a very high You're gonna be a very high 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.400 draft pick. Yeah, and so obviously you're gonna go around 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.760 you're gonna go around to four or five different teams. Yeah, 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.480 were you prepared for some of the questions that they 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:11.640 potentially could ask? No, because I didn't. I didn't. I 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.400 didn't know it was. Did you take the process? Did 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:16.840 you take it serious? Did you take this process? Hell? Yeah? 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.360 Hell yeah? You do realize the interview was gonna be 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:24.160 more than own court or did you think it was 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:25.760 just gonna be Okay, they're gonna bring me in, I'm 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:27.760 gonna do you know, there's gonna be a workout or 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.120 from some questions, Right, they're gonna try to you don't 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:35.160 figure your personality out? Right? You you played against Ronald 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.280 tess elon Brand in high school? Yeah, I think t 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:42.760 you end up playing t Matt. What what was that like? 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.240 Did you DoD? I mean prior to you know, obviously 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.240 you're you're the a sixten lefty that can handle the 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:51.520 ball point guard. That's a that's an anomaly. Yeah. There 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.960 have been a lot of six ten guys powerful over 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.160 the sixteen Sandard things are back, but not a six 0:09:56.240 --> 0:10:02.920 ten point guard. Yeah, what's going through your mind? Well 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.040 that at that time in my life, I was just 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.800 hype just to play against the best dress, compete against 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:12.080 the best, right, I just want to gold against the best. 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.880 Were you destroying everybody in New York? So you wanted? 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:16.959 I mean Ron Ron was the only competition for me 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.680 and then outside of New York Tracy McGrady, Right, yeah, 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.079 but like for me, Ron Rand was my toughest competitions. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:28.400 It's like twelve years old for real. But you you 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.839 you you you trained and you played against Kobe in 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:32.679 high school? What was what was Kobe like as a 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:37.720 high school player? Same as he was in the NBA. 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.560 So he's always had that dog and he's all had 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.200 He's always had that. I got to get you always, 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:50.400 tonal vision. Are you basketball basketball, basketball, basketball, basketball, basketball, 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:56.600 basketball basketball in all your years high school, the year 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:01.280 in college the NBA? Have you ever seen a more 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:05.000 focused as or as focused as Kobe was to his crown? 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:09.600 The only man did I look up to is Jesus. 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:17.760 But stricture, get comfortable. I want to show you something. Okay, 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:28.560 that's Cookee on the net? Right is that Kobe? Yes? Sure, man, 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:32.319 that's look he is like, you know, to get to 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.120 get another man's tattooed on you. That's not a relative, 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:39.000 not a brother, not a son, not a dad. That's 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:40.559 a heck of an that's a heck of that's a 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.679 heck of an honor to bestow a man. Man. I mean, 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.559 my every day I live is like and you know, 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:53.319 try to my mentality. How why did be trying to 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:55.360 be the best? Why did Kobe have such a big 0:11:55.440 --> 0:12:01.360 impact on the bar? Because Kobe roll people? If you didn't, 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.440 if you're doing you think Kobe Kobe because he knew, 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:09.199 he knew in his heart that I wanted you. You 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.400 two wanted the same thing, but you just kind of 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:16.360 going about it a different way. Yes, yes, because I'm 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.120 growing up and buying stuff like that. I personalized. Wasn't 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.800 the same. But we had one thing and one thing 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:29.240 in mine. I believe purple and gold. You do, Okay, 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:33.000 so you get drafted? What's what's your what's your drafted 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.000 by the Clippers? Clippers? I still get a lot of 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:41.000 Clipper love to blip Clippers Lakers heat. Yeah, but you 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.360 bleed purple and gold. You, I mean you cool with 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.240 the Clippers. They base, they they're in the basement. Yeah yeah, 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.040 I mean we might let them out this year. We 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:52.839 might not go to to be They had a good 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:56.679 team last year. If Kawai and PG gonna stay healthy, 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.240 I don't know, but they're gonna be dressed like me 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:03.959 and you. I know Lebron and ADS. If Lebron a 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:07.040 d healthy, we all right. Yeah, yeah, Lebron. We gotta 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:11.640 get the triangle offense back though. I mean, Darvil have 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:15.240 mean you gotta have somebody that can coach it is. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.319 There's enough Lakers out there. Yeah, I don't see that. 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:25.480 I don't like. Let's preserve Lebron's career. Yeah. Let me 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.959 ask you this. You were so talented coming out of 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.120 high school, why didn't you go straight to the NBA 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:35.679 like TEMC, like Kobe, like Gardner? Because I told my 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:41.280 grandmother would go to college, but you went for one year, Lamar. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.800 I can see if you told your will get a degree, 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.880 I told her, I will give it a shot, I said, grandmother, 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:48.800 give it a shot. I know it's gonna stay long, right. 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.520 She know I was gonna stay long, right, She said, baby, 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.400 just go for me. So I went. You went. Yeah, 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.559 because she went back to school at fifty years old 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:02.200 and graduate, so her love of education with still happening. Georgia, 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.600 nineteen twenty three. Okay, you know what I'm saying, Ye 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.240 run late telling my grandmother let me ask you this. 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.960 Oh you know what, it's very interesting that you said 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.559 that because your grandmother raised you after your mother and 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.440 my grandmother raised me. So there there there's something about 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.960 hearing things from your grandmother and when you promised granded something, 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.520 it's something that resonates like Okay, I got I gotta 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:22.880 go through with this. I'm not gonna make this. It's 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.560 it's a huge advantage too, being raised by someone that 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.800 so much holding you. Yeah, that wisdom passed down to 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.320 I don't know what it is, but sometimes I feel 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:36.280 like grandparents love grandkids more than they love their own kids. 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.520 From me, I'm not a grandfather, saw no, but I'm 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.840 just saying you do you do you think your grand 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.640 your grandmother loved well. I think in our community, in 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.880 the black community, grandmother's you know, or something they're sacred 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:55.480 and mother's. Yeah. So so you're telling the story earlier 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.080 that you you were supposed to go to un LVY, 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:03.160 but the did you did you apply yourself in high 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:04.880 school or did you not? When my mother when my 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:12.000 mother passed away, Lucky, I was a good kid. I 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.240 never really offended anybody, right, And I had, uh you 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:22.040 know this huge, a massive talent, right or that people 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.640 were like, oh he fell four classes, passed the mold. 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.920 Let him play one more moth. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.520 let him finish the year. Let me finish the season now. 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.760 But I never really applied myself in school, right. My 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:38.760 mother passed around like from school, right? Yes? Do you 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.600 feel that that it haunts me now? Right? That's why 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:49.560 when I did this last reality show, College Hill, we 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.160 went back to an HBCU, Yes, went back to Texas 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:57.520 Southern Okay, and strays almaboutle huh Michael Stray hands almabout yes, 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:01.280 that straighthand something. Yeah. Wow, I didn't know that because 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.000 I was a pewee football legend too. You know that 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.200 you don't know about me? Hey, Holy First of all, 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.360 I don't know. I'm trying to tell you, man, Lamar, 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.240 you always been tall at quarterback. I was a problem 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:17.000 you probably in my last football game after the game 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.640 winning touchdown pass. Man, this is not no bullshit. Did 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.400 you did you ever want to play football? I did? 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:32.000 I went to football practice, won football practice. Next day. 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:36.320 In high school, coach coach Oliger calls Lamar old him 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.800 down to his office. So I'll go down to his 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:42.640 office be like, Lamar, we ain't bring you here to 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:46.480 play football. That was the end of That was it 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.200 because when I was going to school, it was a 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:54.080 capitol school, so it was tuition, right, So if your 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.800 tuition is paid for, the coach gonna have frank yeah, right, 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:03.920 So that was it for that. Obviously, as great a 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.479 high school players you were, you're on the AAU circuit. 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:10.040 What what's what's your thoughts on AU basketball and where 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.560 it's headed now? Do you think it's a help? Do 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:14.719 you think it's a detriment. I think it's I think 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:18.240 it's a help because you know, look at what they 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.000 do in Europe. A lot of those kids are turned 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:27.639 pro at fourteen, fifteen, sixteen. I love a basketball, right. 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:30.200 It's where I home my skills and where I was 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.399 able to play against all the best players in the country. Right. 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:38.639 I think it's incessant. I like AU basketball, I like 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.800 any UTH sports as long as the parents don't get involved. 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.000 We seeing parents, they're going to parents. They're doing too much. 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:47.320 Now they're fighting, they fighting other parents, they're fighting officials. 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:49.600 We just saw the we saw your referee just get 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.480 shot and killed in Texas. The parents, the parents be 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.520 doing too much Labar. There's there's a lot of Lavars 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:59.159 out there. But Labar was good. Labar fighting nobody, now, 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.320 it was good. But you know what I mean as 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.200 far as pushing his product right or thinking they my 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.720 boys the best, My boys the best, right. But sometimes 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.480 that's what it takes. So kudos to the VAW he 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:14.040 got two of them to the league. I respect that. 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:16.920 What what do you mean when you said AU coaches 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.240 in New York are inappropriately messing with some of these players, 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:34.200 oh man or until I got to college, my grandmother 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.080 always asks me tomorrow that coach I ever trying to 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.399 touch you, we try to ever put his into you, 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:45.520 because you know, in the AU world, we know like 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:49.800 that happens a lot, especially in New York. I'm not 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:51.840 gonna call it at the names or putting probably on 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.239 f street, right. I really never I I really never 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.639 knew that. I mean, you hear stories of like in 0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:00.159 swimming and tennis and gymnastics. You hear a lot with 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.800 sports like that. I don't, I don't. I can't recall 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.560 off the top of my head hearing anything with basketball 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:07.879 this is news to me. Yeah, my coach shoot I 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:11.320 played for Christy King, had a case like he was 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:16.159 touching kids that played right, And yeah I've seen some 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:22.159 he did some I seem crazy shit. You didn't think 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.200 to tell anybody? Or were you just like? No? I'm 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:27.600 you know what when you're so young, right, it goes 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.320 goes over your head. It's when you become much older 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:34.520 you realize, like, why would a man sit his seat 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:38.639 down where we're taking shotowers at right? Right? You know 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:47.520 what I mean? Uh? Weed? College? When did you first 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.040 start smoking weed? Was it college? Was it high school? 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.200 Where you you deal with? No? I would situation with 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:57.760 your mom? I started smoking weird like fifteen years old? 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:04.119 Just cards or whether your COVID mechanism. You don't just 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:09.159 hanging out smoking? Were smoking? We together? We're a smoke weed, right? 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.200 Have you smoking weir? I'm a smoke weed? Right. I 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.880 don't even think it was for a reason at that time, 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:18.960 maybe subconsciously. Right? What about drinking? I don't really drink 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:25.280 a lot. When did smoking weed graduate to something more? 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:33.160 When ambiance changes? You know what I'm saying? Friends having 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:40.000 different friends and places change? Did you think like I 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:41.960 mean they'd ever crossing my lap. I never think I 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:44.160 was gonna have no, you know, drug problem because from 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.920 ship that I've seen, right, you know, I've seen you 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.800 know that most most people say that ain't gonna happen 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:52.879 to me. I've seen mother's aunts and fathers come to 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.920 the park one day and then the next month you 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:01.240 see him toward Do you know what I'm saying, I've 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:03.520 seen it. Yeah. I mean you're in New York City, 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:07.119 so you know what the crack epidemic. And I'm an athlete, right, 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.639 so I thought, you know, I could probably overcome anything. 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:16.000 But I ain't never think one hit of cocaine was 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.800 gonna do that to me. Right, and one he got 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:22.800 you hooked? It was like that time, it was the 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:28.760 best all guys might have had. Wow. Did did the 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:32.800 drug addiction lead to other addictions like sex or gambling? 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:36.080 I've always liked women. Wow. You know it's so funny 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:41.000 when you say that, because I didn't really realize I 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:43.760 can have a sex addiction until I was in touch 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.040 with me having a drug addiction, right, you know what 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:49.320 I'm saying. And you submit to your drug addiction so 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:51.440 you can realize damn it. I think I might be 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:55.399 addicted to this, or when you when when you hear 0:21:55.440 --> 0:22:01.600 a sex addition addiction, because coke and sex came hand 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:04.720 in hand with with me. Really, if I wasn't having 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:07.600 sex with somebody else, I was having sex with myself 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:11.920 the whole night, the whole night. Right, So it was 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:17.080 bid women, bid watching porn, bid pleasure in yourself. It 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:23.280 had to be something damn their daily and you didn't think. 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:25.359 So you doing this daily, you don't think you got 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:28.280 an addiction. You think that's normal, but you ain't when 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:30.879 you caught it, you ain't really you don't really look 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:33.400 at it like that. You can't see the You can't 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:35.680 see somebody smoke a lot of weed, right, if you 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:40.320 smoke a lot of weed. If somebodys smoking a lot 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:41.440 of weed and they come in here, you're like, damn, 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:44.280 you smell like weed. If somebody that smoked smoke weed, like, 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:47.040 they may don't even smell it, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:49.400 So when you're on the inside, you can't see outside, 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:54.240 especially with addiction. So when did when did you realize? 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:56.800 So you go, Okay, which did you had? Which of 0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:59.119 you think you had first? The drug addiction or the 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:02.480 sex addiction or they happened simultaneous. I'm that was a 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:06.119 drug addiction first, okay for me, me realizing I had 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:09.800 a drug addiction, like damn sex to write it because 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:13.400 they was together in college obviously, if you're if you're 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:16.720 an athlete, the women gonna the women gonna comes. It's 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:21.000 easy and you're like, okay, this is cool. But then 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:24.440 you become a professional athlete, it's a whole it's a 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.639 whole different ball game and a whole different type of 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:31.640 woman isn't play for a Lamar Oldham or any professional athlete. 0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:36.840 And you like, hey, hey, but when you're on top 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:40.240 of you want a woman at the time, right what 0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:44.040 but her is the thay athlete me being the next 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.480 professional athlete. But yeah, you're right, you know what I'm saying, 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:49.399 And you I wish I had met my woman on 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:52.280 the way up so when I get there, I don't 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:54.560 have to worry about what damn I don't know, but 0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:57.040 that she worried about being at the top. But you 0:23:57.119 --> 0:24:00.080 can't really if you meet a woman now, you just 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:03.399 hopefully that she's driven just as much as you and 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:08.000 and she ain't it for all the right reasons that's 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:09.720 just like any other friend or anybody. You know what 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:11.919 I'm saying, right, it's hard for me to be new 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.520 friends because if you weren't here, like when I was 0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.720 coming up forgetting them, because I automatic what you want 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:22.280 from what you want, And sometimes I think that about 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:25.520 when what you want? I mean, but sometimes you just 0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:27.560 maybe you can give them what they want. Maybe you 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:33.200 can't because no one's a probably the best word and 0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:36.400 strongest word, and it is and it's gotten. And when 0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:38.159 the more you say, the more you say to somebody, 0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:42.280 it easier gets though. But here's the thing, Lamar, when 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:44.320 you're at the level that you will send to as 0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:48.800 a professional athlete, being vulnerable in love and weak are 0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:52.400 two different things. I think sometimes we look at vulnerability 0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:56.920 and weakness as together. Man, I can't, I can't. I 0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.000 can't be hint because it we're hint pet man, I 0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:02.240 can't let her just that whatever. Yeah, But being vulnerable 0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:04.360 in love, I mean you have to submit. Vulnerability means 0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:07.600 you will fall, and you don't have to you believe 0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:12.159 that she'll catch anybody wanted a woman like that. It's like, 0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:16.240 do you believe that that's the question will be in vulnerable? 0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:19.359 Do you believe that. I believe you hadn't you had 0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:21.119 a woman that would do that. I believe Cloyd was 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.480 that for you. You didn't realize that at the time. Yeah, 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.880 I didn't because after what you was going through. Let's 0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:29.119 talk about what you went through and the situation in 0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.760 Vegas the Bunny Ranch. Yeah, you know about that situation 0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:33.800 with get me so upsurd about that? What tell me 0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:38.440 about it? I didn't even do drugs at night. What 0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:41.680 so here, I'm gonna having a conversation with You're gonna 0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:44.400 write a book about my ups and downs with drugs. Shit, 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.840 I didn't do drugs at night because I was mad 0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:50.280 that night. I didn't have no cocaine to take to 0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:57.320 the Bronton. Okay, So how did you be your heart? 0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.760 Basically damn exploded? Lamar What happened? However they slipped me 0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:06.520 or gave me, the comedian says, and the drug acting 0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:08.760 he says, Tell me what it was, because that must 0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:10.560 have been some good ship to have me down for 0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.359 three days, right, ha ha ha ha. Hi. When I 0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:16.800 didn't do drugs that day, when did you did? Did you? 0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:19.000 When did you realize you were in trouble? When did 0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:22.600 you realize that, man, I feel different this whatever I 0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:24.840 was there was none of that. It was none of that. 0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:28.160 It was no oh oh oh oh okay. I went 0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:31.360 there then do what you have been doing, right, had 0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:37.959 a drink, girls around me. Woke up three days later, 0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:39.840 and you woke up there three days later in the hospital. 0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.280 Ten tubes got my neck. Yeah, I saw it. All 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:48.560 tubes for real. That's real, real rap. I don't got 0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:55.040 no reason not to ship. You go to the ranch. 0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:58.159 You wake up three days later in a hospital. You 0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:01.080 have no recollect all. You know you went there. You 0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:03.520 know you're looking around you. You chose X y Z 0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:06.960 and you're in the hospital. When you open your eyes, 0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:10.000 who's around you? Who? Who are some of the first 0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.640 people you see besides the doctors obviously the doctors there, 0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:17.800 Chloe clothes there. Now at the time, you and Chloe 0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:22.240 are not together, Am I correct? No? We I went 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:24.359 to well, y'all can't be together at the rate. I 0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:26.600 went to the brother because I signed the voice papers. 0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:28.879 That's what took me to the broth. That's let you 0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:32.479 know what place I was in, right, So you were 0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:36.359 so why you why did you Why did you signed 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.320 the divorce paper? Did you not try to make it work. 0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:41.000 Did you not go to couples therapy? We did all that. 0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:46.240 She wanted what she wanted, Okay, she wanted the divorce, 0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:50.080 but she showed up for you. Lamar, she did not, Lamar, 0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:51.840 not a whole lot of women would have done that. Bro. 0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:58.320 She did. She did, she did, she did. Do you 0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.080 believe you could have survived it without her? Somebody? What 0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:05.719 your situation? What that's a lonely place? What's you mean 0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:08.000 the situation? I think the thing is where you were, 0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.080 not that if you just if you had to go 0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:14.680 through that, what you went through alone, just you and 0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:20.280 the doctors. I don't want to take anything from her, 0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:23.359 but that that was it was God's plan. I'm how 0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.800 support of course help me. God put her there. So 0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.879 there you go, right, because it all comes back to him. Right, 0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:35.800 So Chloe shows up, Kobe shows up. When you're able 0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.320 to talk, and Kobe is there, you're talking. It took 0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:41.320 months when I first woke up, I couldn't walk or talk. 0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:47.480 You had to relearn all that again. So as you lag, 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:50.360 as you're lagging in your bed, you can't walk, you 0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:53.200 can't talk. What's going through your mind? You're like God 0:28:53.640 --> 0:29:02.040 to me, why? What? How? When the reason why? I healed? 0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:06.680 I think so fast and so quickly. We can go 0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.440 to see the sign now, right now, and they'll treat 0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:14.520 me like Jesus himself just walked in because I never 0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:22.240 asked the question why honestly, and I knew I didn't 0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:29.720 do drugs or I just like I don't believe it's 0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:37.520 part of the book, right, it wouldn't. I'm here, right, 0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:41.840 so what what's there? It gotta be something for me 0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:45.760 to do now. So you I'm just asking what is it? 0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:50.080 Give you godance, give you strength, Give you clarity. God. Okay, 0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:53.040 you got me here. The strength is there, I already 0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:58.120 now you want the clarity. I had twelve, twelve strokes 0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:03.920 and six heart at texts MO. So you're talking about 0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.160 how you feel like. I wake up every day like 0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.680 I'm in California. I got a little money in my pocket. 0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.720 I feel good. So when the doctors tell you you 0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.320 had twelve strokes and six heart attacks, they say, mister 0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.000 walking miracles? What they say? Yeah? I was gonna say, 0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:22.160 what's the probability? What's the likelihood slimming? None? I was 0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:26.680 pronounced that, I think twice two times. It told my family, 0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:28.840 say your finalis good, buys. I don't think he's gonna 0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:33.680 make it tonight. Wow, but just to fight his spirit. 0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.320 The shit is in me, you know what I mean? 0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:40.959 It was in me before I met Kobe, and then 0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:45.880 after meeting him and going to ride with him. What 0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:47.880 was the conversation once you were able to talk, once 0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:50.800 you were able to walk, If you don't want to 0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:52.400 divorce too much you want to put in your book, 0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:54.160 But what's some of the things that you and Kobe 0:30:54.240 --> 0:31:05.920 talked about, Probably like don't never do that shit again? 0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:11.240 Know how much I mean to people outside from the 0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:12.960 Lakers and stuff like that, Just like a lot of 0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:19.040 personal Big Brother shit. Right. He came to me. He 0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:25.800 come to me in dreams too. The when I was 0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.160 on the Big Brother House, right, I was there for 0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.120 twenty six days. He came to me like in four 0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:40.960 dreams and the the the the last dream. It was really, 0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:47.320 it was real, vivid, and it was really he said 0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:49.800 something to me, I'm not I'm never gonna ever ever forget. 0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:53.640 Like we were having a shooting contest and Kobe was 0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:56.160 so good at shooting the ball because he can step 0:31:56.240 --> 0:32:03.040 into the ball with either foot left for right and 0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.520 then we ll we get to the top of the 0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.440 key and my feet are not right and it's a 0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:20.320 little deeper, and we get to the three point line 0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:31.280 right wing and uh. He looked back at me. He said, hello, 0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:34.360 the after life thing where people make it up to be. 0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:38.800 I'm like, I'm shit. I woke up. I ain't like 0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:41.640 I didn't know how to take that, Like, what do 0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:46.120 you mean he missed the girls? His mission is not 0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:53.080 done yet. Get it all in now, right cause we 0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:57.520 don't we don't know what to expect. But that shit 0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:00.360 stuck with me. So like right now, I'm like, I'm 0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:06.160 in full throttle one hundred miles an hour. You show 0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.560 me where the work is at, show me where I 0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:14.280 need to put my focus. That's how I'm want you're 0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:17.680 approaching you. And I was talking off camera about how 0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.600 did you say you want to get into coaching? Is 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:26.000 your focus like Kobe was seniorly in nature basketball basketball? 0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:32.040 Basketball is AMR focused coaching, coaching, coaching. If it was coaching, coaching, coaching, 0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:38.280 then it would be basketbasketball, basketball, basketball, bastball ball. Gonna 0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:41.080 have to switch. You said you want to coach in 0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:45.440 the NBA. Are you willing to maybe do a Staton 0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:49.440 College or you just figure like just I mean I would. 0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.080 I'm gonna be honest, I don't know if like I 0:33:52.200 --> 0:34:00.160 have a you're getting high mans a coach, you know 0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:07.840 a lot of basketball experience, you're a basketball rain man. 0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:15.719 Huh yeah yeah, but like lived it though, Yeah yeah, 0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:17.800 I mean, but here's the thing. Let me ask you this. 0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:23.560 Those there's a saying that you know, doctors and lawyers. 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:27.440 See yeah, those that can't teach, those that can do. 0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:32.239 Everybody that played the game can't coach the game. And 0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.680 a lot of the great coaches never played the game. 0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:39.560 Can you parlay lamar olda player and the two time champion, 0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.880 sixth man of the year winning a medal because a 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:44.560 lot of times the greater the player of the hard 0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:46.839 it is for him to coach. But if you if 0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:48.440 you go to Kobe's book, I wish I would have 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:52.040 had the book, yeah, because it is. There's a segment 0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:56.480 when he talked about me being a glue to the team, 0:34:56.600 --> 0:35:01.239 made the team with Kobe Bryant and power the saw. Right, 0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:03.360 he calls the mall old him the blue right. It 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.640 had nothing to do with basketball, right, he was the 0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:08.400 man we know he was taking the last shot right, 0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:10.520 the ball was going to power and the post the 0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:12.800 power first. Right. But he called them Alden the Blue 0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:17.719 because I understand personality. Right. I can get up with 0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:21.839 the guitar, play the game, shoot around with shoot the ship. 0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.759 That's what Phil had. Let me ask you this, that's 0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:29.000 what Pat Rowley has. A lot of times people think 0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:31.560 if you just put the five best players out there, 0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:36.080 you're gonna win. But what we've seen it's more than that. 0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:40.279 It's a it's the camaraderie, chemistry. Chemistry. You gotta have 0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:44.160 guys that want to go out to eat that when 0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:45.960 they're not playing, they're calling on each other, checking up. 0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.719 Oh what's up? Good, I'm good, right, I see them 0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:52.560 all all right. A lot of some people say chemistry 0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:54.680 is just the class that you're taking high school. So 0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.400 there's more to it than that. It's important. Of course 0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.840 you play sports. Of course I understand it. You know that, 0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:04.200 Oh yeah, it is? Is it more? I mean, I 0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:06.440 just played football, and now I understand chemistry. You got 0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:08.560 fifty three guys. You got level on the offense, that 0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.280 the level on defense, and then you got special teams. 0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:14.800 You got five. It's only like fifteen guys. Yeah, you 0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:18.880 around each other all all the time. You own the 0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:22.680 plane together, your meetings, you walked through you at the game. 0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:27.080 So basically, I mean, you wake up, you walk past 0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:29.799 each other. I'm gonna see you more than my kids, Yes, 0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:34.640 more than my family. Yes, off the season. Yeah, that's 0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:36.440 how the bond is supposed to be, right, That's why 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.400 I love the Miami Heat and the Lakers. Everything is. 0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:41.799 You didn't want to you you were very upset when 0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:43.480 they traded you from Miami. You didn't want to leave. 0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:45.759 After year. Now, I didn't want to leave, but I 0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.799 was coming back to La. I was a clipper, right, 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.080 so I knew how it looked right on the other side, 0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:55.040 and I got seven million dollars to come back home, right. 0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:59.000 Not bad, nah, but you have some bad memories because 0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:01.880 you leave. The part of your addiction started in Miami, 0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:03.759 dealing with the drug and to say, yeah, that was 0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:07.279 my first time I about having cocaine or whatever, But 0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.879 I don't really I'm I'm true to myself. It could 0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:12.640 have been anywhere. It just happened to be in Miami. 0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:15.440 It could have been La. It could have been you know, Oklahoma. 0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.560 It could have bewhar wherever, the wherever, wherever it was, 0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.840 it could have been, could have been anywhere. So no 0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.759 hard people. So what what was it? What is what 0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:27.080 is it about pat Riley? We hear heat culture? What 0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:32.400 what what is heat culture? What is pat discipline? Everything 0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:36.960 is about to what's best for the team. That's discipline, discipline, discipline. 0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:38.640 When I first moved down there, he was like, I'm la, 0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:40.799 I'm gonna give this money, but you know you're gonna 0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:43.080 have to move your your kids and their mother that 0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:44.640 like it. I'm not gonna just give you this money 0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:49.560 and have you in the streets. When I first started 0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.560 to play for pat Riley, he was the coach. Still 0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:57.200 I thought my name was motherfucker. The first one I 0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:01.279 thought my name was motherfucker. Motherfucker. Get your ass on 0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:04.239 the line. Huh huh wait, it's like like a pit 0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:13.239 bull you want to leash, just like huh. Second, I 0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.520 read a story. I don't want you. I want you 0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:20.719 to confirm that for the oh four Olympics, Yeah, I 0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.000 always wanted to play Olympics. You want to play an Olympics, 0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:26.760 but you needed to do something first. You used the facetia, 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:30.600 you use the prosthetic. Yeah, I hope. I ain't blown. Yeah, 0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.960 I got a piece on. I always wanted to play Olympics. 0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:35.960 That was like one picks. How it was for me, 0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:43.600 it was like it was David Stern called my name, Yeah, Olympics, 0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:52.879 NBA Championship, Right, So how did you didn't nobody know? Nah? 0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:56.520 But how you going? Man? How you go this? Lamar? 0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:59.759 When you you're taking the picks, they ain't gonna they 0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.400 decided doing it in the NFL, they'd be looking and 0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:05.839 they make you drop your drawing because you can't be sixteen. Nah, 0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:07.520 I ain't gonna drop your drugs. I'm like this big 0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:14.799 old black dude with a wood You sixteen wouldn't make 0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:22.560 old look. I wanted to always play on the pispot. 0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:24.480 So you did what you had to do to make 0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:26.879 sure you pass. You had to have you ever had 0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:28.799 somebody have to take a drug test for you. Nah? 0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.320 So that was the only time that you used the prostatic, 0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:40.520 the only time only time. He's like, I've seen you, 0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:42.160 like you're like, look at here, checking through the glasses. 0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:45.520 But I'm saying because I mean, you can understand how 0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:47.600 people are gonna find that hard to believe because the 0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:49.560 first in two thousand and four, you use like the 0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:51.640 first thing you go to. Okay, I'm gonna do the prostatic. 0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:53.919 So did somebody tell you about that? Man, I'm gonna 0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:56.239 pass drug because I know I just knew. I knew 0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:58.839 I was dirty, right, So if I know I'm dirty, 0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:02.920 I'm not gonna give him this PI. No, heck, no way, 0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:07.239 That's I'd have been crazy embarrassing, Right, you win the 0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:10.400 you win Lebronze Lebron. That would have been more. That 0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:24.840 was more embarrassing what happened. I don't question coaching, but 0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:28.239 I don't understand how you don't use young Way, young 0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:37.600 Lebron and young Carmelo to your advantage, right to switch 0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:41.080 to pace maybe right at the time. Yeah, I don't know. 0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:45.160 Five at a time. It's like ego first, young ego. 0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:50.400 You know what I mean? It was disastrous when you 0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.440 first you get traded, You get traded as a part 0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:55.840 of the deal. Shot goes to Miami, you come to 0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:59.239 LA and the first couple of years it wasn't It 0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:02.000 wasn't glamorous. Yeah it was. It was tough, and you 0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:05.360 know what the expectation is in Laker Nation? What was 0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:10.040 that like? It was? I mean it It was tough 0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:17.840 on h on the other players, being around eight. He 0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:24.399 wasn't twenty four yet, but being around eight, because eight 0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:28.799 was still like stubborn, selfishly stubborn, right and give a fuck, 0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:31.600 and he would tell you didn't give a fuck. Twenty 0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:34.640 four knew how to he knew how to talk to 0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:37.840 people a little back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, do you 0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:40.440 know what I'm saying? How should I approaches? Dude? You 0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:42.480 know what I mean? But eight, and you know what 0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:45.200 the fuck if he wasn't on his page and get 0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:54.520 the fuck out for real? You shot wins a title 0:41:55.840 --> 0:42:00.480 for Kobe makes a little track that could have been 0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:06.160 our title too, because they beat Dallas that year, right, yeah, 0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:14.960 that year we had dallags. I mean the Sun's down 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:21.000 three one. Yeah, so we beat the Sun free one. 0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:26.000 We were sweeping through. We'd probably played what happened in 0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:29.839 that Sun series. It was almost like people was criticizing 0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:31.520 Kobe and it was almost like he said, well, I'm 0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:33.040 gonna show you y'all't want me to shoot. Y'll talk 0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.200 about im shooting too much. It was almost like he 0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:38.959 wouldn't everything that we thought about Kobe. He went away 0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:43.799 from that. It's like, damn if you do, damn if 0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:47.919 you don't, right, really well, I'm damn doing what I do. Yeah, 0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:49.840 I ain't damn doing what I don't. Yeah, and he 0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:51.520 just I don't know, I don't know it was in 0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:53.799 his mind because that's the game. He wudn't shoot ball. 0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:55.440 People say he wan't shot the ball last game, right, 0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:00.719 Who the fuck knows? What do you think is going 0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:04.600 through his mind when Shot wins that title. I'm gonna 0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:08.279 get me one. I know that was money, right, there's 0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:11.799 just win. I'm gonna get me one. Two thousand and nine, 0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:15.280 you guys breakthrough. Well, first you lose to the Celtics. 0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.080 How painful was that because one of the games that 0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:21.520 I think it was was a Game four that you 0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:23.879 guys had the big lead and they come, they come 0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.880 all the way back and they track you down. You 0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:28.920 win game five, and then you go back and you 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:34.160 have that historic defeating the game six. Do you feel 0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:36.000 do you feel that's one of the ones that got 0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:38.680 away because you had the game well and that was 0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:49.120 that could have been a three people. Yeah, yeah, no disrespect. 0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:55.360 That's when my like my this like for Boston Celtics 0:43:55.440 --> 0:44:00.640 fans like growl, right, because I'm y'all beat us by 0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:05.839 like thirty almost faulty, right, yeah in the final Yeah, 0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:10.360 I don't they might have been better than you, guys, lamar. 0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:12.480 I don't think there were forty points better than you. 0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:17.040 But it just snowballed on you. And then the fans 0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:23.759 surrounded our bus and continuously was shot our bus. Yeah, 0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.759 I'm saying, then y'all won the game. That go leave 0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:29.960 me a lot giving yourself. Y'all got to think what 0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:31.759 happened to be the one? Right? We don't have to 0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:37.440 shoot that way out this motherfucker. You wip so two 0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.120 thousand and eight, you lose, two thousand and nine, you 0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:43.600 come back. You guys on a mission. It's supposed to 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:46.520 be because they're running the commercial of the muppets Lebron 0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:50.080 and Kobe. It's supposed to be Ron and Kobe cows like, 0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:53.279 oh yeah, And then they lost to Atlanta. They lost 0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:56.920 to Orlando, but Didas fucked that, Like he's keeping up right, 0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:00.760 Dwight Howard with a master in that their rich against 0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:04.319 against the Calves. But you get Orlando and you guys 0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:06.200 have to go to overtime. If I'm not mistaken in 0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:10.160 the first game, But I knew they wasn't gonna I 0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:15.359 knew they wasn't gonna They couldn't keep playing it that much. 0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:24.520 And hence why I tell you why, no disrespect, but 0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:28.359 Andrew buying him probably could contested this. Him and Dwight 0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:32.719 Howard is like they lillygagging and shit at half court. Right, 0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:37.920 So now you figured if you just beat them up 0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:39.720 and down the court, you're gonna be straight. You caller, 0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:46.240 you the only chance of them having a fucking shot 0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:49.680 and the finals to beat Kobe Bryant and his Lakers, 0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:56.600 and you joking around at half court, Well, I was 0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:59.440 senter who wants to go at you? Matter of fact, 0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:03.800 you gotta go get him and pound. You're right, I 0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:05.479 knew they I knew they wasn't gonna win a search. 0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:11.480 Now you win that title, you come back because I 0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:14.160 believe in order in any sport to be especially especially 0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:16.960 football the basketball, if you want to be remembered as 0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:18.880 his story, to win it again, you gotta do it 0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:20.680 back to back. They've been a lot of teams that 0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:24.920 won won in a row and they forget, Yeah you won, congratulations, 0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:28.680 but to repeat when you're not because the first one 0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:34.839 you were hunting. Now you're being hunted. You get Boston again. 0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:38.040 They just they just fumped you by almost four in 0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:41.680 the game six. Now you getting them back now. And 0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:44.960 you know Boston, Boston, La go way back to the sixties, 0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:48.920 all the way and they they owned Magic, got him 0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:50.640 a couple. Let me tell you something, how I knew 0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:54.440 he was gonna win Game seven two because we won 0:46:55.440 --> 0:47:00.440 We had home court, right, so I'm remember being a room. 0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:07.400 I'm like, y'all, motherfucker's gonna let poor piss La Native 0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:13.919 walk out of here the Staples Center with our shit. 0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:22.799 Y'all buck it, let's go. But that was a game. 0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:28.239 When you say the chemistry, because Kobe might have had 0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:31.680 one of his worst shooting Custos games, that's that's a 0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:35.919 football game. Yeah, that's football mentality. Pole. I think third 0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:38.200 and goal, every player's third and goal. Pole have a 0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:41.680 double double. Ron Art has hit the shot. He'll never 0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:44.200 hit him. He never hit a shot before cutting it out. 0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:48.759 Every player defense, defense were just scoring like seventy nine eighty. Yeah, 0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:50.200 it was. It was a very it was a very 0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:53.120 very low scoring game. You get into the fourth quarter, 0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:56.560 you know, a it's not never now and I think 0:47:56.600 --> 0:48:00.359 you guys are behind, but it's a very very type 0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:05.200 ball game. What's the what's what's the arena? Like, what's 0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:08.640 the what's the mood in the huddle? When Bill calls 0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:11.200 time out and you know, you look up there start 0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:13.680 the quarter, it's twelve minutes. All of a sudden, time out, 0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:15.840 it's nine minutes. You look up, it's five minutes, and 0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:20.160 all of a sudden, it's two minutes. With like, it's 0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:23.120 really really it's hard to explain, but because it's hard, 0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:27.919 it's really what you all you hold at your whole life. Yeah, 0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:32.560 to feel that moment, right, I wish I could feel 0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:34.960 that moment right now, right, you know what I'm saying, right, 0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:45.520 I guess intense joy. I never wasn't gonna cry when 0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:51.879 when when Meta lines that three up. It's funny because 0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:53.160 I thought he was gonna swing it to the corner. 0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:56.280 I was ready to jack it up. I was shooting 0:48:56.280 --> 0:49:00.440 that bitch already coming out about I was thinking, I 0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:02.040 think Kobe at the top of the key, at the 0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:07.600 top of the key, he swinging, use his body language, 0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:10.400 why why are you? Why are you first? We probably 0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:13.719 take it matter what the shooting. If you don't know 0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:15.759 to do it it, you gotta pass it, shoot it, 0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:19.600 or dribble it, but don't hold it. Don't hold him. 0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:24.080 That's the wrong basketball that's the wrong basketball player. Let't 0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:26.400 ask your question. A few questions about you mentioned the 0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:30.640 White Howard earlier. Y'all beat the Magic with the White 0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:37.320 in the NBA Finals. I personally believe Dwight Howard should 0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:41.560 have been on the seventy fifth anniversary team. I'm not 0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:43.719 talking okay, you want to say Houston or you want 0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:46.120 to say La and he bounced around to Atlantic. But 0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:48.839 if you look at those eight years that he had 0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:52.080 an Orlando, he was a top five player. He finished 0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:54.920 second in the MVP, three time Defensive Player of the Year, 0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:56.880 he was like three or four time first team All 0:49:57.000 --> 0:49:59.640 NBA and a lot of these guys that got on 0:49:59.760 --> 0:50:02.520 there had never been the de facto leader and taking 0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:04.880 a team to the finals. He was the best player 0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:07.400 on the team and he should have definitely been there. 0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:11.000 Why do you why don't you think he was on it? 0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:14.520 Do you think, like what you're saying, it was left off? Yes, 0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:18.279 because what you said the man jogging, he laughing and 0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:21.960 joking at half court only the only way I could say. 0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:28.960 Because they compared him to Shock ye engaged nobody and 0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:30.680 he ain't played, but he ain't played with the same 0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:36.640 tenactity right the sha right, he wasn't nasty the hell 0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:42.160 of a player, but Shack was like, but but you 0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:43.440 know what I'm saying, And I think that's the only 0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:46.200 because it's only comparison. You can compare the White Howard's 0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:49.040 game too. I think there's a secure on that his 0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:53.440 style right back down, back down, back down, dunk right. 0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:57.320 Do you do you believe the White worked on his 0:50:57.400 --> 0:51:02.080 game because athletic about I mean, you look, but even 0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:03.440 if he worked on his game or not, that I 0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:06.240 shouldn't have anything because he did what he did without 0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:07.919 working on the game. If it would say he didn't 0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:10.319 work on his game. He got those three Defensive Player 0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:12.879 of the Year, he got those all NBA. He has 0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:17.200 thirteen thousand red, fourteen thousand rebounds. He did all of that. 0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:19.560 So no matter what you think of him and how 0:51:19.680 --> 0:51:22.880 serious he took the game, he did that. There are 0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:26.120 a lot of guys that made it off. There are 0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:28.440 a lot of guys that took the game more serious 0:51:28.480 --> 0:51:31.840 than the White. Doesn't have the resume as the White 0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:35.239 that made that team. And so that's what That's that's 0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:37.080 my problem. I got a problem. Well it's not. Yeah, 0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:39.439 but you gotta understand, well, why are you putting people 0:51:39.480 --> 0:51:41.800 on the team? Then what's your reasons for having somebody 0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:45.160 on the teams for what they didn't leave right? Right? 0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:47.239 And whether you like or just like, well he didn't 0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:49.160 take the game serious enough. Well, he took it serious 0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:55.240 enough to get those awards. That's stupid whoever makes that decisions. 0:51:55.640 --> 0:51:58.560 You played for pat Rilett and you played for Phil Jackson. 0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:02.560 Give me some similarities and some some craps, some some 0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:10.400 stark contrast to the coaching style. That's just like O 0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:15.600 in vinegar, Now I on the sandwich. How you getting inovated? Yeah, 0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:17.319 it make it taste good, right, right? But you put 0:52:17.400 --> 0:52:19.839 them together like are they supposed to go together? Right? Nah? 0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:30.279 One is gonna guide you to the water, right, the 0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:31.880 other one gonna tell you how to fun to get there? 0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:36.759 You know what I'm saying, field guide field, God, Pat 0:52:36.840 --> 0:52:40.399 is gonna tell you how to get there. Just different style, right, 0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:47.760 different man? But how the NBA is vastly different today 0:52:47.920 --> 0:52:49.759 that it was when you first came the league and 0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:53.120 you had How would pat riley coaching style be received? 0:52:53.200 --> 0:53:12.160 Today with today's NBA player, come all the bull what 0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:16.160 They wouldn't ben to take that shit, cause they would 0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:18.600 probably feel like some motherfucking making me feel like I'm 0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:22.160 six years old. Right, But it's just to break you 0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:24.320 down and build you back up, right, you know what 0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:27.480 I mean. They wouldn't bay take that. They won't bay 0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:35.879 take back. You had uh a reality you reality show 0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:42.800 with the Kardashians. What was that light? That was the 0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:48.880 best time of my adult life, besides beating those strokes, 0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:51.759 those heart attacks. Right, because I'm already a king right 0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:55.000 in La. So I'm went to I'm not the problem 0:53:55.000 --> 0:54:00.200 of my career and I'm married into TV royalty right right. 0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:06.200 It was like red carpet, red carpet. I mean, you 0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:08.560 were probably more well known for being married to one 0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:11.719 of the Kardashians. It's funny because I can tell when 0:54:11.760 --> 0:54:13.080 people come up to me. I can tell if they 0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:16.920 come up to me because Oldham or Lammy Lammy was 0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:19.239 like my name on a brad Dasha, Right, I can 0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:21.759 tell a difference. So where they know me from him, 0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:27.879 I mean that's an extreme, that's a big crossover. Yeah, 0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:32.280 of course I want a six minute a year award. 0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:41.200 When I was filming Chloe and Lamar, Wow, can I 0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:44.279 get my number? Retire Jennie Buss please for that. I mean, 0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:48.920 I don't know what's more laker than that getting married 0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:52.520 on TV? Yeah you did that man from his craft 0:54:53.920 --> 0:54:56.399 on the court. And I don't know if it's raciality TV. 0:54:56.480 --> 0:54:59.400 We could say that acting or I mean you was 0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:01.759 being Lamar, that was being La Mom. But I mean 0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:03.520 that's like, come on, that's like if that don't get 0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:10.200 your number? Words tired as a laker? Come on? Would 0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:12.560 you do another reality show? If somebody says, okay, let's 0:55:12.560 --> 0:55:15.040 just say you get married again or you start dating 0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:16.800 and they said, Lamar, we want you, we want we 0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:19.360 want to put this on you down with that a 0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:23.960 reality show? Yeah? Yeah, because I know how to you 0:55:24.040 --> 0:55:28.440 know maximize does did that? Did the reality show? Did 0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:32.839 it hurt your marriage to Chloe? Oh? It made us 0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:38.640 at the time when I was no, it wasn't losing 0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:42.000 to my addiction, right, and it made us closer? Did 0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:43.640 she did she? Did she know you had it? Did 0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:48.000 she know? You know? Not until I know? So you 0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:51.640 hit it. But that's when you're an addict, You're gonna 0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:53.600 you can hide things you're gonna you're a liar, right 0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:56.120 because you lie to yourself. She did. She asked you 0:55:56.160 --> 0:56:01.120 about it, ask me like, what, lamar, are you doing drugs? Mola? No, no, no. 0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:03.239 I had to bring it to her, like fuck it 0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:06.120 because you're gonna find out and you rather you rather 0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:07.719 for her to hear it from you than someone else 0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:09.680 to see it. You know, I want to see it, right, 0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:14.439 because you know, I understand they were stand up side 0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:18.040 social contradiction in my thoughts sometimes, but I understood with 0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:20.720 some things, like I can't bring it to her because 0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:23.239 I'm bringing it to the whole family. Right, you feel 0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:29.120 what I'm saying? Yes? Yes? How does being married, doing 0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:33.319 a reality show and then being on social media? How 0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:37.560 does one navigate that? You give it? You submit? I 0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:40.960 never even really fucked with the social media. I still 0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:44.840 don't know how to post on Instagram, right, you know 0:56:44.880 --> 0:56:46.839 what I'm saying. I still I'm honestly, I still don't 0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:48.799 know how to post. But I just I never really, 0:56:50.160 --> 0:56:53.160 that's y'all. I don't I know how crazy social media is. 0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:55.560 I don't want to do with it. Do you think 0:56:55.600 --> 0:57:00.520 it's impossible for someone to be as active on social 0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:05.680 media as they are being a relationship because I think 0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:07.640 when you become on social media, you just open up 0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:09.840 your life, especially when you like all the time and 0:57:09.920 --> 0:57:13.000 you talk it's so funny because I don't it's your 0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:15.520 because it's so funny because you So everything I say 0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:18.760 is like contracted myself because you ask me what I 0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:24.080 do reality TV Again, I'm like, oh so, but I 0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:26.400 don't really mess with my social media, like I'm not 0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:28.440 on there, right, Like, let me see you on my 0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:30.919 DM so let me see what these people talking about. 0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:33.000 I'm not. I don't really don't. You don't rock with it, like, 0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:35.680 don't move me, you know what I mean. I'm still 0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:41.880 Lamar right, no matter how close I am to my 0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:46.480 starting a walk with Fan, Right, I'm still lamar Oden 0:57:46.520 --> 0:57:50.200 from my thirty first year. Right. So do you do 0:57:50.320 --> 0:57:52.400 you feel like it's some things I still want to 0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:55.080 like simplify right as much as I can write, you know, 0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:57.520 without people being because you know what you're on social 0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:00.360 media when you do a reality show, you you're you're 0:58:00.520 --> 0:58:04.280 opening and I'm six right, you're opening your open head, 0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:07.920 You're opening your life to be critiqued. Yeah, but that's 0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:10.960 some things that you just you submit to you know that, Like, 0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:12.560 so I'm talking along with it. If I do that, 0:58:12.600 --> 0:58:16.240 I'm not gonna be checking for the comments. Bro, you 0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:19.040 dated Holdong, How do you get married thirty days? That 0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:21.720 was the reality show in it up itself, getting married 0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:25.960 thirty days, getting married thirty days after day. It's so crazy. 0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:32.120 It's like you submitting like that. I don't know, but 0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:35.000 it's like me, I always you know, talking to my 0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:39.240 assistant order that's it's my gut. Like with my gut 0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:43.120 to me, that's like God talking to me. So my 0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:47.520 gut says something, I just go with it. And that 0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:48.880 was like I said, it was the most it was 0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:51.560 the best time of my adult life. So I did 0:58:51.640 --> 0:58:55.000 something right. Yeah, I enjoyed it right. I remember you 0:58:55.160 --> 0:59:03.840 was dating Taraji before Chloe. That's why I preyea Taragi Taragi. 0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:06.000 She's a real one. She took me to go see 0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:12.000 Prince performing his crib when night we haven't dinner with 0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:16.120 Angela Jolie and Brad Pitt and farmers with it right, 0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:21.080 I was like, damn, this Laker ship is crazy. Yeah, no, no, 0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:25.640 that's that's that Garagi shit, I think me. Yeah, but 0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:27.600 even in that, you think that you like the Laker. 0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:29.960 You think Lamar Oldham pulls up for the Laker pulled 0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:33.480 that up. I'm both both because the Laker, me being 0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:38.280 a Laker, put me in uh contact. Yeah, so you go. 0:59:38.800 --> 0:59:42.120 So you go see Prince just chicken in his crib. 0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:45.160 And then it was crazy about is that it was 0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:49.240 real dark room. But whenever you got up on somebody, 0:59:49.240 --> 0:59:50.880 it was like somebody that you know by name of face, 0:59:54.480 --> 1:00:02.320 I'm here, you miss do you miss that? What going 1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:04.000 to Prince career? Obviously he's I can get it. I 1:00:04.040 --> 1:00:05.280 can get it. I'm gonna be honest. That's why i 1:00:05.320 --> 1:00:08.240 love La because because you still Lamar, you still went. Jeff, Yeah, 1:00:09.000 --> 1:00:10.920 I went out I swear to yesterday. I was like, man, 1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:13.160 I could easily coach or have something to do with 1:00:13.240 --> 1:00:16.439 this Lakers in this place because I went to mister 1:00:16.560 --> 1:00:20.240 child yesterday. Yeah, it was like I felt like it 1:00:20.440 --> 1:00:23.920 was twenty ten. Wow, Like damn, it felt good to 1:00:24.000 --> 1:00:27.320 be out here. The wedding was on the show, it 1:00:27.440 --> 1:00:34.000 was on TV, so what were normal? Obviously you have jitters. 1:00:34.040 --> 1:00:35.560 I don't have enough. But that's why I knew. That's 1:00:35.600 --> 1:00:38.080 why I knew like it was right and and for 1:00:38.240 --> 1:00:40.240 at that point my life. I knew it was right 1:00:40.240 --> 1:00:46.280 because I had women bad ones. Yeah you know what 1:00:46.320 --> 1:00:48.920 I'm saying, and I ain't. I gave all of it up. 1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:59.640 That's you. You have to submit, broh. And you gave faith? 1:00:59.760 --> 1:01:02.000 Is like that too, right? But that's what I was 1:01:02.040 --> 1:01:04.480 talking about, me surviving and being able to walk and 1:01:04.600 --> 1:01:07.760 talk and all that. My faith is strong. That's what 1:01:07.920 --> 1:01:10.840 made me not question question whether I was gonna walk 1:01:10.960 --> 1:01:13.920 or talk. Okay. I was just like, well, but let 1:01:13.960 --> 1:01:19.440 me ask you this. It felt right. You believe Chloyd 1:01:19.600 --> 1:01:22.520 was right? Then how could you do what you did? 1:01:22.720 --> 1:01:26.080 I was doing drugs, So you believe if you were 1:01:26.120 --> 1:01:28.480 sold with you to never h? Hell yeah, I'll still 1:01:28.480 --> 1:01:30.880 be married now. That would be two thousand and seven, 1:01:31.160 --> 1:01:37.520 twenty two years. Easy that because you got when you 1:01:37.560 --> 1:01:41.040 didn't on somebody got the same temperament too, right? Is that? 1:01:41.360 --> 1:01:43.200 Is that one of your biggest regrets of your career, 1:01:44.440 --> 1:01:47.000 your life as a man. But I gave him a 1:01:47.080 --> 1:01:49.640 vine in front of guard. Right. I would rather just 1:01:50.680 --> 1:01:53.680 not said anything, just yeah, it just hung out and 1:01:53.760 --> 1:01:55.360 see if we can get to fifteen years or something. 1:01:55.840 --> 1:01:59.160 Didn't do it like that, then lie right in God's 1:01:59.160 --> 1:02:02.160 face Why do you think the show was canceled after 1:02:02.200 --> 1:02:05.600 two seasons? Because I was I wasn't prepare, I wasn't 1:02:05.640 --> 1:02:09.160 married no more, or wasn't living a married man's life. 1:02:10.320 --> 1:02:13.240 How are you? How were you able to keep that secret? Though? Man? 1:02:20.840 --> 1:02:26.600 I don't know how old are you? Not? Lamarty forty two? 1:02:27.360 --> 1:02:30.200 Go back forty two year old Lamar, go back and 1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:32.640 talk to twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty year 1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:36.200 old Lamar? What would you tell it? Take your time? 1:02:38.120 --> 1:02:43.480 I think saint no, especially to the flesh. You know 1:02:43.480 --> 1:02:46.480 what I'm saying that five minutes of feeling good or whatever, 1:02:48.800 --> 1:02:52.080 M not one. You can have a lifetime of happiness, right, 1:02:53.760 --> 1:02:56.919 Sometimes you just throw it all away risk reward. Blow 1:02:56.960 --> 1:03:00.919 at your question? There was ah Chloe wanted another baby, 1:03:01.960 --> 1:03:04.320 and I'm assuming that way she did it. This way 1:03:04.440 --> 1:03:08.560 is that she wanted her kids to have the same father. True. 1:03:08.720 --> 1:03:10.440 And I don't know what this new baby's name is. 1:03:11.040 --> 1:03:13.560 I don't know if it's been released yet. But you 1:03:13.760 --> 1:03:16.880 said should have hit your boy up the mother? Yeah, 1:03:17.000 --> 1:03:19.040 I'm because I don't like I'm trying to think of it. Right. 1:03:19.920 --> 1:03:22.000 Why didn't y'all have kids? Why you do y'all was 1:03:22.000 --> 1:03:25.200 getting high. My sperm was probably way of trap. I 1:03:25.280 --> 1:03:29.360 was definitely I was in there. I was you know 1:03:29.360 --> 1:03:31.840 what I'm saying. But yeah, my whole thing with that 1:03:32.040 --> 1:03:34.520 was like, will you be serious of but you just 1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:36.880 throw it out there, you just like ky, you call 1:03:36.920 --> 1:03:38.440 you boy if your boy could No, I don't know. 1:03:38.480 --> 1:03:40.280 I'm not being sure because I'm trying to find the 1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:44.320 psychology about it, Like, Okay, you want to have the 1:03:44.480 --> 1:03:48.200 same baby with the same father, but he don't want 1:03:48.200 --> 1:03:51.800 to be with you, right because I thought because you 1:03:51.840 --> 1:03:54.920 look at Kim Kim, Kim has all our kids are 1:03:54.960 --> 1:03:58.320 from Kanye kindly all our kids are from Travis Scott, 1:03:58.560 --> 1:04:00.720 kid of the baby girl doesn't have any kids, Chloe, 1:04:00.920 --> 1:04:03.080 She's like, hey, I gotta keep the traying going. Yeah, 1:04:03.080 --> 1:04:06.560 I get it, but that bit me may all the same, 1:04:07.400 --> 1:04:09.280 like you better getting rid of that. But I he 1:04:09.360 --> 1:04:11.120 don't want to be if he I can get it. 1:04:11.640 --> 1:04:14.560 If that man is saying I'm here, I want to 1:04:14.640 --> 1:04:17.280 raise my children with you have sea, Yeah, I get it, 1:04:17.600 --> 1:04:21.320 but if he ain't checking in on you, that don't 1:04:21.360 --> 1:04:26.960 make sense to me. Like sister, yeah, and that's says hell, brother, 1:04:27.040 --> 1:04:28.480 I'm not her lover with no more. I'm saying that 1:04:28.480 --> 1:04:30.600 as your friend, Lamar. Yeah, if he's saying that he 1:04:30.640 --> 1:04:32.760 don't want to be with you, I'm gonna you know 1:04:33.000 --> 1:04:35.280 them better than I will ever know them. So just 1:04:35.360 --> 1:04:40.240 taking a take it from me. You're a big bro. Yeah, 1:04:41.040 --> 1:04:43.040 so that's that's your relationship. Now you're more like a 1:04:43.040 --> 1:04:45.320 big brother. Like that's so yeah, I can't really you know. 1:04:45.400 --> 1:04:49.240 That's why I could be at this point in time. 1:04:49.480 --> 1:04:52.000 You have to be none else would you? Would you 1:04:52.080 --> 1:04:53.960 take when if he's like, you know what, Lamar, let's 1:04:54.000 --> 1:04:58.880 trying to work this thing out. Who Chloe? If you say, 1:04:58.960 --> 1:05:01.120 lamrlet's trying to work it. We did have it your 1:05:01.160 --> 1:05:03.400 own drugs. We did have a great time. It was 1:05:03.440 --> 1:05:06.080 a great little run that we had. Let's let's let's 1:05:06.160 --> 1:05:08.280 let's let's give it a let's go, let's try it again. 1:05:13.360 --> 1:05:16.760 Sounds print up right here. Nah, but I got all 1:05:16.800 --> 1:05:18.680 that bread, she got braided. Nah. You know, but sometimes 1:05:18.720 --> 1:05:20.480 you know when you do it like you do damage 1:05:20.480 --> 1:05:22.080 to a woman and all that stuffing, might Anteres have 1:05:22.160 --> 1:05:24.200 to let it go, yeah, because she's gonna be looking 1:05:24.200 --> 1:05:26.560 at you the corner her eye. Right. You feel every 1:05:26.600 --> 1:05:29.040 woman that walked bold every woman that give you a 1:05:29.120 --> 1:05:32.120 compliment and all that it would be too much, too much, 1:05:32.160 --> 1:05:36.320 too much of amount on the clock, too high amount 1:05:36.320 --> 1:05:38.360 of the clock, right, I think at that point, Okay, 1:05:38.520 --> 1:05:43.080 last one who gets back first? Kanye and Kim, Chloe 1:05:43.160 --> 1:05:47.560 and Lamar? That's it because Kindl and Travis are together. 1:05:47.640 --> 1:05:51.560 Every people kindled are together? Who gets back? That's a 1:05:51.640 --> 1:05:56.280 reality show. That's a bread I'll be working on left 1:05:56.320 --> 1:06:02.000 behind the scenes of viol You Kim and Kanye, I bean, 1:06:03.400 --> 1:06:06.479 that'd be a good reality show too, right for Chloe Lamar? 1:06:06.560 --> 1:06:09.080 Reality show? Yeah? Or even if they're doing a reality 1:06:09.120 --> 1:06:11.400 show like it wouldn't even have to be us like 1:06:11.480 --> 1:06:13.920 being a lover. Let's just put them in a in 1:06:14.000 --> 1:06:16.560 a house together, see if they could be friends. Who 1:06:16.640 --> 1:06:18.800 Kim and Kanye? Are you and Chloe? Because you and Clode, 1:06:18.880 --> 1:06:21.600 you Ecloye got a good relationship, right men, Chloe, I 1:06:21.680 --> 1:06:25.000 mean yeah, I would think it was good. Well you, 1:06:25.160 --> 1:06:28.760 I mean you hadn't talked to it an how you 1:06:28.920 --> 1:06:31.720 won sixth Man of the Year. Let's talk about this, uh, 1:06:31.960 --> 1:06:34.080 because I don't think this team gets enough credit. The 1:06:34.200 --> 1:06:39.400 twenty eleven Mavericks. They swept you the defending two time champs. 1:06:39.920 --> 1:06:43.040 They blew the doors off the ok S thunder they 1:06:43.200 --> 1:06:47.320 beat Miami. We just got tired, man, If y'all don't 1:06:47.360 --> 1:06:50.200 get ben it beat the breaks off you lamar. But 1:06:50.400 --> 1:06:55.120 like you said, oh eight, we shouldn't won a championship. Yeah, right, finals, 1:06:55.400 --> 1:06:57.560 we get it done old nine. Yeah, we get it 1:06:57.640 --> 1:07:05.720 done in ten eleven. But I think they were really 1:07:05.800 --> 1:07:09.920 good that year too though. No, no, they had to 1:07:10.000 --> 1:07:12.920 be really good. Yeah, because it's not okay, let's just 1:07:13.040 --> 1:07:16.800 say you guys got tired. Okay, see one tired because 1:07:16.840 --> 1:07:20.680 they're young. That's young Kevin Duran, that's young surgeon, that's 1:07:20.760 --> 1:07:23.440 young Russ. Them being us probably gave them that. Oh 1:07:23.560 --> 1:07:26.240 we just beat the defeating champ. You know what I'm saying? 1:07:26.760 --> 1:07:30.280 Because one place were they in that Dallas? They were 1:07:30.400 --> 1:07:32.560 they't have the first see that they don't have to 1:07:32.600 --> 1:07:34.680 win L six or they were they were they were 1:07:34.720 --> 1:07:38.320 seeding low. I think if they played us, yeah, so 1:07:38.440 --> 1:07:40.280 we had the second seed that they had to be seventh, 1:07:40.480 --> 1:07:45.280 right and they did, were y'all the second seed? Then 1:07:46.360 --> 1:07:50.520 fourth maybe? Yeah? I think it's four maybe, but then 1:07:50.560 --> 1:07:52.600 they'd be like the mental the mental state. We are 1:07:52.680 --> 1:07:55.520 team that shit just propelled them like we ain't gonna lose. Yeah, 1:07:55.520 --> 1:08:00.320 we just beat the Lagers because even though we probably 1:08:00.320 --> 1:08:01.640 one of the best team in the regular season, we 1:08:02.040 --> 1:08:05.880 were the favorites to come out to West that Yeah, 1:08:05.880 --> 1:08:08.520 I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure Dallas one of the favorites. 1:08:08.560 --> 1:08:11.680 That is. Yeah, cause they beat swept you guys. They 1:08:11.800 --> 1:08:14.120 beat russ they beat Roughing and four one and beat 1:08:14.200 --> 1:08:18.400 the four three four two. You got a pretty good team. 1:08:18.400 --> 1:08:20.720 I understand. Look, I understand Jason Kidd was not the 1:08:20.840 --> 1:08:24.360 Jason Kidd of eight years earlier, but Dirt was at 1:08:24.360 --> 1:08:28.120 the apex of his power, playing extremely well. Uh, Sean Marion, 1:08:28.560 --> 1:08:34.000 they had h Stevenson man get them to get that 1:08:34.080 --> 1:08:37.519 team Cray. No, I'm giving them credit. I'm giving them 1:08:37.560 --> 1:08:40.240 credit because they beat us, beat the breaks off, they 1:08:40.320 --> 1:08:42.560 beat us. They we didn't get it, dub and we 1:08:42.720 --> 1:08:45.439 lost game one. We had Game one one, Yeah, NLA 1:08:47.040 --> 1:08:48.600 and they just rolled down momentum and took it to 1:08:48.640 --> 1:08:53.080 the house. I was a pebe legend though, Shannon, Oh, 1:08:53.160 --> 1:08:55.600 I'm gonna give you that take. Let me ask you 1:08:55.680 --> 1:09:00.920 this news break the Lake. They're trying to trade for 1:09:01.000 --> 1:09:05.519 CP three, but they're gonna include lamar Oder. Why when 1:09:05.560 --> 1:09:08.240 you know trades are part of the game, why did 1:09:08.280 --> 1:09:15.360 that upset you so much? That was two thousand and 1:09:18.520 --> 1:09:27.040 probably eleven twelve, thir twelve. I don't know. It's just 1:09:27.160 --> 1:09:30.920 like when your girlfriend tell you, shi't like that. We 1:09:31.120 --> 1:09:33.080 sh don't like you know more. You know that's part 1:09:33.120 --> 1:09:34.880 of the game. But I like that. Damn. I don't 1:09:34.960 --> 1:09:36.920 did so much for you. But you know what I mean, 1:09:37.960 --> 1:09:40.800 don't sacrifice for y'all. I could have left, oh, I 1:09:40.880 --> 1:09:44.720 could have left right a year or two ago when 1:09:44.840 --> 1:09:46.760 y'all asked me to come off the bench my free 1:09:46.840 --> 1:09:51.600 agent year, right, and you said, okay, chill cool. No, 1:09:51.720 --> 1:09:55.040 I didn't say that at first. I say, you know 1:09:55.080 --> 1:09:57.439 what I'm saying getting the set, Yeah, I say, y'all 1:09:57.439 --> 1:09:59.599 gonna talk to somebody. Gotta talk to me into that ship, 1:10:00.720 --> 1:10:03.560 Phil Kobe, I better sit me down or something, have 1:10:03.680 --> 1:10:05.599 a one on one with me and tell me why 1:10:06.240 --> 1:10:08.640 I need to give up this thirty million dollars or 1:10:08.760 --> 1:10:15.640 twenty million to come off y'all bench. So what did 1:10:15.720 --> 1:10:19.840 Kobe tell you, because that's what they said they sit 1:10:20.040 --> 1:10:27.160 the clothes there. That the closest deal. What Kobe tell you, yello, 1:10:27.800 --> 1:10:30.680 we can't do it without your brother. I ain't. No, 1:10:30.720 --> 1:10:32.040 we ain't know what we're gonna be able to do 1:10:32.080 --> 1:10:40.400 with out you. Just like that, that's all you needed 1:10:40.439 --> 1:10:44.000 to hear. So you got me all right, You got 1:10:44.080 --> 1:10:50.679 me on the back, all right. But that's twenty Maine man. Yeah, 1:10:51.360 --> 1:10:55.040 I could still be spending some of that money. Brother. 1:10:55.720 --> 1:10:59.200 Where you where you went to the Lakers? Did you 1:10:59.280 --> 1:11:02.720 lose your love for basketball? Back to the Lakers? Know 1:11:02.800 --> 1:11:04.240 when you went to them? Excuse me? With the MAVs. 1:11:04.320 --> 1:11:05.920 When you went, when you went, when you went to 1:11:06.000 --> 1:11:11.800 the MAVs, what happened? It just seemed like I didn't 1:11:11.800 --> 1:11:15.640 want to be there. And then this man, one of 1:11:15.680 --> 1:11:18.320 the most powerful men in basketball. I told him when 1:11:18.320 --> 1:11:20.760 I went through, that's some of my couch cousin got killed. Yeah, 1:11:20.760 --> 1:11:22.960 I was in a real fucked up Spike Minster, So 1:11:23.040 --> 1:11:26.200 I told him I keep my sisters. I had a 1:11:26.400 --> 1:11:29.519 real good situation in LA. I don't really want to 1:11:29.560 --> 1:11:32.960 come to your team. This is what I'm going through mentally. 1:11:33.120 --> 1:11:40.439 My closest cousin just got killed. Right first game, I'm 1:11:40.479 --> 1:11:43.880 playing bad. What the fuck are you doing? The owner's 1:11:44.040 --> 1:11:47.040 yelling at me from the sideline from the sidelof from 1:11:47.080 --> 1:11:51.320 the bench. Yeah, because he's sitting next to He's sitting 1:11:51.320 --> 1:11:55.680 next to the team. So I'm like, I'm just I 1:11:55.760 --> 1:11:58.600 started comparing the situation. I'm like, Joe, worst wouldn't be 1:11:58.600 --> 1:12:00.559 doing this shit. The fuck the word. The worst thing 1:12:00.640 --> 1:12:02.360 you can do is compare. You feel what I'm saying. 1:12:02.479 --> 1:12:06.639 In any relationship, you gotta lead the bags, whatever, whatever, whatever, 1:12:06.760 --> 1:12:10.760 whatever's sue a queer lead at lead out of the door. 1:12:11.000 --> 1:12:13.360 They come into a totally new, a new, a new bag. 1:12:13.400 --> 1:12:15.479 I start calling my agent like, Yo, this nigga miss 1:12:15.520 --> 1:12:19.599 my fucking screaming at me for playing bad after everything 1:12:19.640 --> 1:12:21.240 I told him. I've been through the summer knowing my 1:12:21.280 --> 1:12:23.679 head and out of the game. Yeah, mister jumped Charlotte. 1:12:23.680 --> 1:12:30.000 Mister Lap did too. It was just a bad fit. 1:12:30.840 --> 1:12:48.720 And then he then were playing in Memphis whatever, I'm 1:12:48.800 --> 1:12:55.479 shipping all over the court, playing bad, and he tries 1:12:55.520 --> 1:13:01.400 to get me in the game, right mark human, Yeah, 1:13:02.680 --> 1:13:06.400 this white man. Yeah, he goes get in the game. 1:13:07.320 --> 1:13:09.320 Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa whoa? That man kick you 1:13:18.320 --> 1:13:21.320 dieting the game, and it would hello, what did you do? 1:13:22.040 --> 1:13:23.840 I was about to fuck him up. But Vince Carter 1:13:24.000 --> 1:13:27.720 was sitting right here, like sitting and Vince see me, 1:13:28.600 --> 1:13:30.200 and Vince just got up and set him on chill 1:13:30.200 --> 1:13:33.280 out because he put his feet on me. I was 1:13:33.320 --> 1:13:36.000 gonna fuck him up. Yeah, he supposed to it. I 1:13:36.000 --> 1:13:39.479 wouldn't even felt bad. I wouldn't even I wouldn't even 1:13:39.520 --> 1:13:43.120 felt bad. I ain't gonna lie. You only kick a dog. 1:13:43.520 --> 1:13:45.120 I ain't been letting him man. Putting no feet on me, 1:13:45.640 --> 1:13:47.439 that was. I would have wrapped him if he would 1:13:47.439 --> 1:13:48.920 have smacked me, saying if he'd just say kick your 1:13:48.960 --> 1:13:51.160 asking him out to be okay? Oh yeah, I'll have 1:13:51.160 --> 1:13:54.080 got him with that too. It. You gotta wear asks 1:13:54.080 --> 1:13:57.360 with it either way. But you definitely not gonna pat 1:13:57.360 --> 1:13:59.559 your feet on me. Your feet made for walking. Clearly 1:13:59.560 --> 1:14:01.519 you don't like walking. Because you put your feet on me, 1:14:01.600 --> 1:14:05.760 you're not walking. So that was the end of it. 1:14:05.840 --> 1:14:09.560 Once he did that, that was it. Did you have 1:14:09.640 --> 1:14:13.320 a conversation Did you have a conversation with it after that? Yeah? No, 1:14:14.600 --> 1:14:16.800 you gotta talk to him. Man. You gotta say, Mark, Bro, 1:14:16.920 --> 1:14:18.600 you can't put your feet on I mean, it's I 1:14:18.760 --> 1:14:23.880 almost feel bad telling that story publicly, but I've said 1:14:23.920 --> 1:14:28.760 it before publicly because I understand power. He ain't got 1:14:28.760 --> 1:14:30.720 that much power, and I understand how powerful he is 1:14:30.760 --> 1:14:32.519 in the world. That's okay, you know what I'm saying. 1:14:34.240 --> 1:14:38.040 But yeah, that's when I was just like, you know, 1:14:39.680 --> 1:14:43.519 it would be best if you just yeah, just Oakley 1:14:43.600 --> 1:14:46.400 tells a story about at the Clippers. I believe you 1:14:46.479 --> 1:14:50.800 were at the Clippers and he came into your Jeff 1:14:50.840 --> 1:14:55.040 mcinners pus, Jeff McGinnis. He is that true. Yeah, he 1:14:55.200 --> 1:14:59.640 did that. Y'all ain't do nothing. Let me tell you something, man, 1:14:59.720 --> 1:15:01.720 you wouldn't say with Debo that say would riding call 1:15:01.760 --> 1:15:03.880 him with Debo when they're rolling dice and Debo jumped over. 1:15:03.920 --> 1:15:05.840 They didn't help if y'all father had to help it. 1:15:06.160 --> 1:15:08.280 I know I was. I was with the ships. I 1:15:08.400 --> 1:15:11.679 was talking ship and Charles Oley was his big ass chest. 1:15:11.720 --> 1:15:14.840 He was like, hello, I told him, motherfucker, I had 1:15:14.880 --> 1:15:18.920 punishment waiting for him, he said, I told him, I 1:15:19.000 --> 1:15:21.519 have punishment waiting for I'm like doing the purpose punishment. 1:15:23.560 --> 1:15:25.519 I'm gonna back. Yeah, I'm gonna chill out on that. 1:15:26.520 --> 1:15:28.320 I've seen we just did them, my man, I'm gonna sill. 1:15:28.920 --> 1:15:33.599 He's a big dude. Okay, dude, he's okay being fast 1:15:33.680 --> 1:15:36.960 forward All Star Games in DC. If I'm not mistaken, 1:15:37.040 --> 1:15:40.439 your guys at the hotel, I heard about this one. 1:15:40.439 --> 1:15:46.080 He's lying. He lying that never happened. That didn't happened. No, 1:15:46.880 --> 1:15:51.280 because he said he said that he walked in an elevator. Yeah, 1:15:51.320 --> 1:15:53.240 and I was on there with my boys. Yeah, and 1:15:53.320 --> 1:15:58.880 they walked off. Y'all got off. I mean, it's not 1:16:00.000 --> 1:16:03.240 It isn't his book, but I I'm gonna I'm gonna 1:16:03.320 --> 1:16:07.720 take that ass. You ain't wanting no confrontation, you like, 1:16:07.800 --> 1:16:10.519 you know what, But that ain't happened though, Okay, I 1:16:10.600 --> 1:16:13.320 believe I ain't. That didn't happen. I believe you know 1:16:13.360 --> 1:16:16.240 what happened, because I'm gonna keep it. I probably would 1:16:16.240 --> 1:16:19.040 have had to have them to stop him, them from 1:16:19.120 --> 1:16:22.599 them from whipping oaks ass. If they feel like somebody's 1:16:22.640 --> 1:16:25.040 threatening me, right old him. I'm gonna finck who you are, 1:16:25.200 --> 1:16:30.519 NBA player, If you're feeling they threatened, Lamar oldham Mercer 1:16:30.760 --> 1:16:32.599 right from my you know what I'm saying, ain't nobody 1:16:32.680 --> 1:16:34.920 gonna know. But he I don't remember that. But he 1:16:35.040 --> 1:16:38.120 did walk into shoot around and put he did that 1:16:38.400 --> 1:16:41.840 walk right up to it that he that happened, y'all 1:16:41.840 --> 1:16:44.160 did ain't nobody jump o yall, y'all have ain't that 1:16:44.160 --> 1:16:49.640 shit happened so fast and he and it was like 1:16:49.680 --> 1:16:51.640 a chart you ain't knowing and cart him somebody get 1:16:51.680 --> 1:16:55.439 hit the spinning around like spun around. I looked at 1:16:55.439 --> 1:16:58.439 his feeling like, damn, jeff you right there like he 1:16:58.479 --> 1:17:06.800 had a dentness face. But yeah, so Jeffers Jeffer is 1:17:06.880 --> 1:17:10.360 a real thorough dude, though, But didn't nobody did you did? Nobody? 1:17:10.560 --> 1:17:13.400 Didn't nobody see him as didn't nobody see him coming? 1:17:14.920 --> 1:17:16.680 How about it walked from one year y'all at the 1:17:16.760 --> 1:17:19.040 other end, and don't nobody see nothing? Oak didn't want 1:17:19.040 --> 1:17:22.120 none of that smoke from Jefferson people, though they had 1:17:22.200 --> 1:17:27.320 some people on his ass. You know that, You know that? 1:17:29.040 --> 1:17:33.240 How close do you follow the current NBA? Watch as 1:17:33.280 --> 1:17:38.639 many games the reck TV allows me to Obviously you're 1:17:38.640 --> 1:17:45.400 a laker. But Luca, Luca, how Luca do that? Luca? Luca? 1:17:45.520 --> 1:17:48.760 Luca probably can't bitch, probably can't bitch that glass. Luca 1:17:48.840 --> 1:17:53.639 probably gonna run like a ten flat forty. He's probably 1:17:53.680 --> 1:17:57.439 the antithesis of everything a great basketball players should look like. 1:17:57.880 --> 1:18:00.320 But he busted people. You know what. That's why I 1:18:00.360 --> 1:18:04.280 love him so much, because he shows this game like 1:18:05.479 --> 1:18:07.599 and while I really like watching him is because anybody 1:18:07.640 --> 1:18:12.040 be like so hyped the player and he just they'd 1:18:12.040 --> 1:18:14.640 be trying to speed him up and he'd be going, Now, 1:18:14.880 --> 1:18:16.160 I don't want to go that I don't want to 1:18:16.200 --> 1:18:18.080 go that fast. I'm gonna stay right here in first gear. 1:18:18.520 --> 1:18:19.960 You can't get me to go to see of the third. 1:18:19.960 --> 1:18:22.720 I'mously gonna stay in first. But because speed is exceptive. 1:18:23.680 --> 1:18:25.320 And then when he do like put on the gear, 1:18:25.360 --> 1:18:33.639 you way off cause I'd like Luca braun Ah of course, 1:18:34.120 --> 1:18:38.360 Greek free, James Harden. I like the way they played 1:18:38.360 --> 1:18:45.960 the game, especially players that see the game of step 1:18:46.040 --> 1:18:52.280 ahead CP three feel me making players better? Right? You 1:18:55.920 --> 1:18:59.240 came up the bitch one sixth man of the year. 1:19:00.479 --> 1:19:04.840 Do you think that would be a role Rush should 1:19:05.520 --> 1:19:08.799 or could embrace or does I don't think Russell Westbrook 1:19:08.800 --> 1:19:12.240 should come off the bench for whoever, for what? But 1:19:12.439 --> 1:19:14.559 I don't like I don't Russell. I don't know why 1:19:14.800 --> 1:19:18.320 people like while he getting a bad because the legers 1:19:18.360 --> 1:19:20.760 didn't do well and Ship he didn't do well either. 1:19:21.080 --> 1:19:24.880 A d played the ad Harley played. Yeah, Lebron missed. 1:19:25.640 --> 1:19:28.280 Broun played fifty four fifty five games, so he missed. 1:19:28.360 --> 1:19:37.519 The offense is terrible. Don't have no there's nothing fluid 1:19:37.560 --> 1:19:41.200 about your offense. You're giving a ball Lebron. And let 1:19:41.200 --> 1:19:42.920 me say this is let me tell you how stupid 1:19:43.160 --> 1:19:47.920 NBA team so right, really right? They give the ball 1:19:48.000 --> 1:19:52.000 to their best player, right right. They put that play 1:19:52.120 --> 1:19:55.760 in the pick and roll that player most of the times, 1:19:55.800 --> 1:19:58.519 he handles the ball almost to the shot clocks at 1:19:58.520 --> 1:20:03.000 the end. Right then he's passionate to a player that's 1:20:03.120 --> 1:20:06.720 not as good as him and has to make or 1:20:06.800 --> 1:20:09.519 take a shot and less it's time as he had 1:20:09.560 --> 1:20:15.599 the ball. So he's getting the ball to your best player. 1:20:15.960 --> 1:20:17.680 He's dripping the ball in to pick and roll. He's 1:20:17.720 --> 1:20:19.559 just handling it to half the end of the clock, 1:20:19.600 --> 1:20:22.040 and he's given it to a player less caliber to 1:20:22.160 --> 1:20:23.639 make the player at the end of the shot clock. 1:20:23.840 --> 1:20:28.800 Right now, I'm mostly all officers like that. Yeah, I 1:20:28.840 --> 1:20:30.360 don't mind that, But you know what, I want to 1:20:30.400 --> 1:20:32.280 put it in a shooter's hand that's not as good 1:20:32.280 --> 1:20:34.559 as me, but that can shoot. But even if it's 1:20:34.560 --> 1:20:37.920 just a shooter. The shooter is not as good as Yeah, 1:20:38.360 --> 1:20:43.160 the player that was handling the ball, that's as But 1:20:43.320 --> 1:20:45.960 I just don't look. I think Russ is a phenomenal player. 1:20:46.080 --> 1:20:50.479 I just think he'll be a better player as the leads. No, no, 1:20:51.040 --> 1:20:53.840 as it started somewhere else. You think Russ can never 1:20:53.920 --> 1:20:56.720 be Russ as the third option because that's what the 1:20:57.000 --> 1:20:59.000 that's what he is on the lake. How Yeah, because 1:20:59.000 --> 1:21:00.800 he's had the ball his whole If that's what you 1:21:00.960 --> 1:21:05.439 have to be. Good players adjust to their situation when 1:21:05.600 --> 1:21:07.479 you know if well, if you don't adjust, then you 1:21:07.479 --> 1:21:09.559 he has to leave it. If you're not gonna adjust 1:21:09.600 --> 1:21:11.519 to being the third best player when you're right, then 1:21:11.560 --> 1:21:13.160 you have to leave because you're the third best playing 1:21:13.160 --> 1:21:15.639 on the team. Right. And that's my only point. I'm 1:21:15.640 --> 1:21:17.559 not saying that he's not a good player, but I'm 1:21:17.600 --> 1:21:20.920 saying what he's always been at Okay, see what he 1:21:21.160 --> 1:21:23.479 was at Washington, what he was at Houston. Yeah, because 1:21:23.479 --> 1:21:25.240 they look at him the ball and just said, no, 1:21:25.280 --> 1:21:27.120 you have to play off the ball now, right, if 1:21:27.160 --> 1:21:30.439 you want to win. He's never won a championship, right, 1:21:31.080 --> 1:21:33.320 And so how do you after after fifteen years of 1:21:33.439 --> 1:21:36.280 playing it this way. Well, I guess Russi and ad 1:21:36.360 --> 1:21:38.600 To just should have asked down and say Broun and 1:21:41.000 --> 1:21:42.640 I think that's what they thought when they when they 1:21:42.680 --> 1:21:44.639 signed off, when they were talking in the beginning about 1:21:44.720 --> 1:21:47.600 him coming. I'm sure everybody had a clear idea of 1:21:47.760 --> 1:21:49.840 what the situation was gonna be. What did you watch 1:21:49.840 --> 1:21:53.320 the Lakers A lot? I did every single freaking game. 1:21:53.760 --> 1:21:56.040 What do you what would you think their problem was? 1:21:56.400 --> 1:21:59.599 Because the problem was definitely defense? But dat what defense? 1:22:00.439 --> 1:22:02.680 Because you had guys that have never played defense at 1:22:02.680 --> 1:22:04.679 any point in time in their career, and the guys 1:22:04.720 --> 1:22:08.040 that had played defense were old Trevor REESA is old 1:22:08.400 --> 1:22:12.640 defensive team game, but they had older ad Okay. A 1:22:12.760 --> 1:22:15.160 D is the best defensive player, but A D was 1:22:15.280 --> 1:22:17.360 in street clothes, dressed like you and I right now. 1:22:17.600 --> 1:22:19.880 So he can't help you defensively, and you don't have 1:22:20.040 --> 1:22:22.800 anybody that can really stay in front of anybody. So 1:22:23.040 --> 1:22:25.679 now it's a it's a layup line to the basket. 1:22:26.960 --> 1:22:29.720 Lebron can Lebron can give you spurts some defense, but 1:22:29.760 --> 1:22:32.720 I don't I'm not expecting Lebron to play defense like 1:22:32.800 --> 1:22:36.479 he did in Cleveland, in Miami in your nineteen you're eighteen, 1:22:36.720 --> 1:22:39.479 definitely not in your twenty. I stopped watching them when 1:22:39.520 --> 1:22:44.880 I realized that. I didn't give up, but I gave up. Yeah, 1:22:46.680 --> 1:22:49.080 And because it's I started. It started the freshman when 1:22:49.120 --> 1:22:53.920 it frustrate me, and I realized that was pushing Lebron. 1:22:55.160 --> 1:22:59.240 It'sn't pushing the rest of their players, right, And like 1:22:59.280 --> 1:23:01.760 when people come yeah Lebron and Kobe, I would say, 1:23:02.360 --> 1:23:08.280 the only difference is what Kobe had inside of him 1:23:08.439 --> 1:23:13.000 rubbed off on all of us. So Bron should grab 1:23:13.120 --> 1:23:15.000 people by the throat. I don't. I don't. Whatever you 1:23:15.080 --> 1:23:18.720 gotta do like that will to make them that's not. 1:23:19.040 --> 1:23:22.040 That's not it's not it's not. It's not him personally, films, 1:23:22.080 --> 1:23:23.639 it's not him. So I can you know. I don't 1:23:23.960 --> 1:23:26.400 fought him for that, but I thought that would happen. 1:23:27.439 --> 1:23:31.680 I saw what you said, Kareem is to go if Lebron. Now, 1:23:31.720 --> 1:23:33.400 I don't know if you said that because you believe it, 1:23:33.479 --> 1:23:35.040 or you said that because he's a New York native. 1:23:35.040 --> 1:23:36.800 I mean, y'all guys stick together, all in New York 1:23:36.840 --> 1:23:40.559 can stick together. But if no, I love basketball, Yeah, 1:23:40.680 --> 1:23:44.960 That's why I say that from from the eighth grade two, 1:23:48.000 --> 1:23:50.559 let's say age thirty five. Ye, another body was better 1:23:50.560 --> 1:23:53.920 in Kareem. He went to college and you know about 1:23:53.920 --> 1:23:56.680 the story. Yeah, beat the beat me slay. Yeah, he 1:23:56.720 --> 1:23:58.920 was a freshman freshman, couldn't play back there. Yeah, but 1:23:59.000 --> 1:24:01.960 his freshman team beat the defending national champions. Other players 1:24:02.040 --> 1:24:04.519 can dunk. I don't know no other player that can 1:24:04.600 --> 1:24:10.439 take that seventeen foot Scott hook. Do you think Kareem 1:24:10.439 --> 1:24:12.439 getting the credit that he deserved because he's never thought 1:24:12.439 --> 1:24:14.880 of it? No, no, no, no, no, he don't. He 1:24:15.040 --> 1:24:17.160 changed his name to a Muslim name in the sixties 1:24:18.800 --> 1:24:25.840 in America because he has the most MVPs. Everything was 1:24:26.000 --> 1:24:29.400 six titles. He has third most. He had the most points. 1:24:29.400 --> 1:24:33.040 I think he has the third most rebounds. I mean Milwaukee, Milwaukee, 1:24:33.120 --> 1:24:36.559 Kareem Alu Alcinder. He was putting on the floor boom 1:24:36.560 --> 1:24:39.280 boom boom stuff. That's what they called it. Stuff. Yeah, 1:24:40.040 --> 1:24:42.200 you know what I mean. He he has the most 1:24:42.320 --> 1:24:45.280 unstoppable shot ever created exactly. I mean, you could talk 1:24:45.320 --> 1:24:47.880 about Jordan and Kobe's fade away, you can talk about 1:24:47.960 --> 1:24:50.439 Kevin Durant. You know how you said you said Jordan 1:24:50.600 --> 1:24:54.000 or Kobe's fadeaway. Yeah, I mean you don't say. You 1:24:54.080 --> 1:24:57.759 don't say Kareem or Scott. No, no, no, no, Scott 1:24:57.760 --> 1:25:00.280 hook is the most unstoppable shop it were created, shot 1:25:00.320 --> 1:25:03.000 ever created. It's not even close. It's so funny. I 1:25:03.000 --> 1:25:05.080 don't I don't even remember like me taking some of 1:25:05.120 --> 1:25:08.679 those when I was like little like being just like practicing. 1:25:09.640 --> 1:25:12.880 Because you think about it. I mean, normally, when you 1:25:12.920 --> 1:25:15.040 shoot the ball, you're looking at the rim. He's throwing 1:25:15.080 --> 1:25:18.680 the sky hooked the ball tover. Hey he looking at 1:25:18.720 --> 1:25:20.720 the rim. But the balls over here, I take an 1:25:20.960 --> 1:25:27.479 enormous amount of like skilled though. Yeah, flipping. It's crazy 1:25:27.520 --> 1:25:32.000 because Kareem was damned that's sixty years old. Were playing 1:25:32.200 --> 1:25:36.360 we're here we uh uh. He was coaching with us 1:25:36.400 --> 1:25:38.800 on the Clippers. Yeah, with Mike all little Candy, and 1:25:39.040 --> 1:25:41.360 he like her. He working out all little Candy, all 1:25:41.400 --> 1:25:44.840 little Candy like. It was kind of like and Karree 1:25:45.000 --> 1:25:48.760 was like, oh hold up, bring that shit down here, 1:25:49.520 --> 1:25:55.080 bring that ball down here? What bust his ass? What for? 1:25:55.200 --> 1:25:59.360 We're like two poopers after the room. What bust his ass? Like? Yeah, 1:25:59.439 --> 1:26:01.639 young fella, take some of this. I was like yeah, 1:26:01.640 --> 1:26:09.360 a cat but busted. That's true story too. Kareb at 1:26:09.439 --> 1:26:13.879 sixty years old giving it gay candy man the business 1:26:13.920 --> 1:26:20.040 giving it to him. How's your sobriety going? Well, I 1:26:20.120 --> 1:26:23.160 do a smoke a little weed. I don't even drink though, 1:26:25.680 --> 1:26:30.759 very rack. You're good facts every day fact. But lamar, 1:26:31.040 --> 1:26:35.120 you know every thing to do. But you know you 1:26:35.160 --> 1:26:37.800 gotta walk. You gotta walk by. You got by pack 1:26:37.840 --> 1:26:40.240 your store, You go to a restaurant and people already 1:26:40.360 --> 1:26:43.200 drinks every day. You got this right here, that this 1:26:43.280 --> 1:26:46.760 one dude, get me to do no cocaine? Do you 1:26:46.840 --> 1:26:49.720 want to bottom? Hell? Yeah, I don't. I don't get it. 1:26:49.800 --> 1:26:52.160 Just a stunt and I'll share it. But I don't 1:26:52.200 --> 1:26:55.240 really drink a lot Like yeah, I don't don't drik 1:26:55.280 --> 1:27:01.439 a lot. Say say shay, that's they call you? Probably 1:27:01.439 --> 1:27:07.000 say right, that's what they call me. Man. I'm proud 1:27:07.040 --> 1:27:09.599 of you. I'm happy you. Appreciates for sharing your story. 1:27:09.880 --> 1:27:11.920 Thanks for sharing a lot of some of the NBA stories. 1:27:12.320 --> 1:27:15.160 But your life is what you've been able to overcome. 1:27:16.000 --> 1:27:19.120 Have to be convenient appreciated, must success, bro, you know 1:27:19.160 --> 1:27:25.439 what's all my life running? All my life sacrifice hustle, 1:27:25.479 --> 1:27:29.280 bad pricing, Want a slice? Got the broller dice swath 1:27:29.479 --> 1:27:32.280 all my life. I've been grinding all my life, all 1:27:32.360 --> 1:27:36.920 my life, and running all my life. Sacrifice, hustle, bad pricing, 1:27:37.479 --> 1:27:40.760 Want a slice? Got the broller dice swath all my life. 1:27:40.800 --> 1:27:42.120 I've been grinding all my life.