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Speaker 1: Who gets back first? Kanye and Kim Chloy and Lamar,

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Speaker 1: Kim and Kanye, All my life, Running all my life? Sacrifice,

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Speaker 1: hustle back prison. Want a slice? Got the brona dice

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Speaker 1: to swap all my life? I've been grinding all my life,

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Speaker 1: all my life? Then running all my life? Sacrifice, hustle

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Speaker 1: back prison, Want a slice? Got the brona dice to

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Speaker 1: swap all my life? I've been running all my life. Hello,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another edition of the the Club Shasha. I am

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Speaker 1: your host, also the Proprieder Club Shasha and the guy

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Speaker 1: that's stopping by for a drinking conversation today. Is a

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Speaker 1: two time NBA champ, NBA sixth Man of the Year,

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Speaker 1: Olympic medalist, one of the best basketball players to come

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Speaker 1: out of the state of New York. New York Times

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Speaker 1: best selling author, and reality TV star Lamar Odom Lamar.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, Rock, I'm good, Bro' never been better.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you. You look good, I'm healthy. You help, sir.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about you had a big new purchase that

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Speaker 1: was friending and everybody was talking about it. The grill,

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Speaker 1: The grill, the grill talk. Tell us about the grill.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Just moved back to California, right, So

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Speaker 1: I got you moved back from Cali from where? From Atlanta?

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Speaker 1: How was Atlanta and what was it like? It was cool?

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Speaker 1: It was cool. I like Atlanta. You like it? But

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Speaker 1: I mean I went to the strip club last night.

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Speaker 1: I was there magic. I don't know which one was

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Speaker 1: of the strip club. Half of the dudes. They had

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Speaker 1: their pistols on their hip. Oh yeah, Jordan, the state

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Speaker 1: a piece absolutely where I don't come from. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: comfortable when I say a pistol. Yeah. You want my

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Speaker 1: grandfather to say, boy, if you gotta take a gun

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Speaker 1: to go somewhere, you don't need to be in that place. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, oh yeah, everybody, everybody straps everybody. You know,

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Speaker 1: this ain't the place with me. Now I have these

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Speaker 1: it's probably time to get out of here, right out

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Speaker 1: of here. So tell us about the teeth you decided

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Speaker 1: to get you managed. My manager wanted me to get

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Speaker 1: new chief to Gina Rod Right. She wanted you to

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Speaker 1: get the new teeth man new Lamar. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: reverse the rebth of Lamar. Yeah, NBA legend. Let's go

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Speaker 1: back to the beginning, New York City. What was it

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Speaker 1: like growing up in South Jamaica, Queens? What did Lamar

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Speaker 1: old him always aspire to be? Uh, the next manage Johnson.

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Speaker 1: was a guard, Yeah, a point guard. I wish I

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Speaker 1: would have got drafted as a I wish I had

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Speaker 1: in college. I wish I would have laid my position

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Speaker 1: point guard, right, because that's what I got. That was

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Speaker 1: what I would have got drafted at, right, And that's

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Speaker 1: But because well, I mean, I think the thing is

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Speaker 1: but you're skilled. You could play with your back to

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Speaker 1: Well I was supposed to go to you in nov Okay,

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Speaker 1: but they said I had cheated on my SAT tests. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I had to sit out one year. Okay, I played

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Speaker 1: What are they telling Lamorrow? Though I could have been

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Speaker 1: But I had my interview with the Chicago Bulls, Okay,

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Speaker 1: up a job interview? Now about the interview A mom? No, no,

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Speaker 1: Jerry Krauss called blessing. Yeah. I was having dinner with him, right,

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Speaker 1: So I kind of like just rushed it. It was

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Speaker 1: Me and my father never had that conversation, right know,

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Speaker 1: how did you feel about your dad being an HIV positive? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well you remember not you're on a job interview. You

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Speaker 1: You try to get this job. I don't even remember

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Speaker 1: At that time, I had no idea that the NBA

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Speaker 1: Like in the NFL to give you what they call

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Speaker 1: the one to lick tests, it was just standardized tests

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Speaker 1: like that in the NBA? No, not that, No, not

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Speaker 1: to I can't remember nothing like that. I think they

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Speaker 1: more feel like they just know you from recruiting me. Right,

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Speaker 1: so watching when you're not watching? When? How well were

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Speaker 1: you prepared to do those interviews? Because, like you said,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna go around to four or five different teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: from some questions, Right, they're gonna try to you don't

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Speaker 1: figure your personality out? Right? You you played against Ronald

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Speaker 1: Were you destroying everybody in New York? So you wanted?

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Speaker 1: but like for me, Ron Rand was my toughest competitions.

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Speaker 1: It's like twelve years old for real. But you you

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Speaker 1: So he's always had that dog and he's all had

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Speaker 1: The only man did I look up to is Jesus.

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Speaker 1: But stricture, get comfortable. I want to show you something. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's Cookee on the net? Right is that Kobe? Yes? Sure, man,

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Speaker 1: that's look he is like, you know, to get to

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Speaker 1: get another man's tattooed on you. That's not a relative,

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Speaker 1: not a brother, not a son, not a dad. That's

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Speaker 1: a heck of an that's a heck of that's a

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Speaker 1: heck of an honor to bestow a man. Man. I mean,

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Speaker 1: strongest word, and it is and it's gotten. And when

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00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: the more you say, the more you say to somebody,

423
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: it easier gets though. But here's the thing, Lamar, when

424
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: you're at the level that you will send to as

425
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: a professional athlete, being vulnerable in love and weak are

426
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: two different things. I think sometimes we look at vulnerability

427
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: and weakness as together. Man, I can't, I can't. I

428
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: can't be hint because it we're hint pet man, I

429
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: can't let her just that whatever. Yeah, But being vulnerable

430
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 1: in love, I mean you have to submit. Vulnerability means

431
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: you will fall, and you don't have to you believe

432
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: that she'll catch anybody wanted a woman like that. It's like,

433
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: do you believe that that's the question will be in vulnerable?

434
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: Do you believe that. I believe you hadn't you had

435
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: a woman that would do that. I believe Cloyd was

436
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: that for you. You didn't realize that at the time. Yeah,

437
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: I didn't because after what you was going through. Let's

438
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: talk about what you went through and the situation in

439
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: Vegas the Bunny Ranch. Yeah, you know about that situation

440
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: with get me so upsurd about that? What tell me

441
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: about it? I didn't even do drugs at night. What

442
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 1: so here, I'm gonna having a conversation with You're gonna

443
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: write a book about my ups and downs with drugs. Shit,

444
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: I didn't do drugs at night because I was mad

445
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: that night. I didn't have no cocaine to take to

446
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: the Bronton. Okay, So how did you be your heart?

447
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: Basically damn exploded? Lamar What happened? However they slipped me

448
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: or gave me, the comedian says, and the drug acting

449
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: he says, Tell me what it was, because that must

450
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: have been some good ship to have me down for

451
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: three days, right, ha ha ha ha. Hi. When I

452
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: didn't do drugs that day, when did you did? Did you?

453
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: When did you realize you were in trouble? When did

454
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: you realize that, man, I feel different this whatever I

455
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: was there was none of that. It was none of that.

456
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: It was no oh oh oh oh okay. I went

457
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 1: there then do what you have been doing, right, had

458
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 1: a drink, girls around me. Woke up three days later,

459
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: and you woke up there three days later in the hospital.

460
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: Ten tubes got my neck. Yeah, I saw it. All

461
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: tubes for real. That's real, real rap. I don't got

462
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: no reason not to ship. You go to the ranch.

463
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: You wake up three days later in a hospital. You

464
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: have no recollect all. You know you went there. You

465
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: know you're looking around you. You chose X y Z

466
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: and you're in the hospital. When you open your eyes,

467
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: who's around you? Who? Who are some of the first

468
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: people you see besides the doctors obviously the doctors there,

469
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: Chloe clothes there. Now at the time, you and Chloe

470
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: are not together, Am I correct? No? We I went

471
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: to well, y'all can't be together at the rate. I

472
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: went to the brother because I signed the voice papers.

473
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: That's what took me to the broth. That's let you

474
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 1: know what place I was in, right, So you were

475
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: so why you why did you Why did you signed

476
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: the divorce paper? Did you not try to make it work.

477
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: Did you not go to couples therapy? We did all that.

478
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: She wanted what she wanted, Okay, she wanted the divorce,

479
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: but she showed up for you. Lamar, she did not, Lamar,

480
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: not a whole lot of women would have done that. Bro.

481
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: She did. She did, she did, she did. Do you

482
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: believe you could have survived it without her? Somebody? What

483
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 1: your situation? What that's a lonely place? What's you mean

484
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: the situation? I think the thing is where you were,

485
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: not that if you just if you had to go

486
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: through that, what you went through alone, just you and

487
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: the doctors. I don't want to take anything from her,

488
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: but that that was it was God's plan. I'm how

489
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: support of course help me. God put her there. So

490
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: there you go, right, because it all comes back to him. Right,

491
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: So Chloe shows up, Kobe shows up. When you're able

492
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: to talk, and Kobe is there, you're talking. It took

493
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: months when I first woke up, I couldn't walk or talk.

494
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: You had to relearn all that again. So as you lag,

495
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: as you're lagging in your bed, you can't walk, you

496
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: can't talk. What's going through your mind? You're like God

497
00:28:53,640 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: to me, why? What? How? When the reason why? I healed?

498
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: I think so fast and so quickly. We can go

499
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: to see the sign now, right now, and they'll treat

500
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: me like Jesus himself just walked in because I never

501
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: asked the question why honestly, and I knew I didn't

502
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: do drugs or I just like I don't believe it's

503
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: part of the book, right, it wouldn't. I'm here, right,

504
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: so what what's there? It gotta be something for me

505
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: to do now. So you I'm just asking what is it?

506
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: Give you godance, give you strength, Give you clarity. God. Okay,

507
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: you got me here. The strength is there, I already

508
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: now you want the clarity. I had twelve, twelve strokes

509
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: and six heart at texts MO. So you're talking about

510
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: how you feel like. I wake up every day like

511
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm in California. I got a little money in my pocket.

512
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: I feel good. So when the doctors tell you you

513
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: had twelve strokes and six heart attacks, they say, mister

514
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: walking miracles? What they say? Yeah? I was gonna say,

515
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: what's the probability? What's the likelihood slimming? None? I was

516
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: pronounced that, I think twice two times. It told my family,

517
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: say your finalis good, buys. I don't think he's gonna

518
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: make it tonight. Wow, but just to fight his spirit.

519
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: The shit is in me, you know what I mean?

520
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 1: It was in me before I met Kobe, and then

521
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: after meeting him and going to ride with him. What

522
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: was the conversation once you were able to talk, once

523
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: you were able to walk, If you don't want to

524
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: divorce too much you want to put in your book,

525
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: But what's some of the things that you and Kobe

526
00:30:54,240 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: talked about, Probably like don't never do that shit again?

527
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: Know how much I mean to people outside from the

528
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: Lakers and stuff like that, Just like a lot of

529
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: personal Big Brother shit. Right. He came to me. He

530
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: come to me in dreams too. The when I was

531
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: on the Big Brother House, right, I was there for

532
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: twenty six days. He came to me like in four

533
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: dreams and the the the the last dream. It was really,

534
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: it was real, vivid, and it was really he said

535
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: something to me, I'm not I'm never gonna ever ever forget.

536
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: Like we were having a shooting contest and Kobe was

537
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: so good at shooting the ball because he can step

538
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: into the ball with either foot left for right and

539
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: then we ll we get to the top of the

540
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: key and my feet are not right and it's a

541
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: little deeper, and we get to the three point line

542
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: right wing and uh. He looked back at me. He said, hello,

543
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: the after life thing where people make it up to be.

544
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm shit. I woke up. I ain't like

545
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to take that, Like, what do

546
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: you mean he missed the girls? His mission is not

547
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: done yet. Get it all in now, right cause we

548
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: don't we don't know what to expect. But that shit

549
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: stuck with me. So like right now, I'm like, I'm

550
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: in full throttle one hundred miles an hour. You show

551
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: me where the work is at, show me where I

552
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: need to put my focus. That's how I'm want you're

553
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: approaching you. And I was talking off camera about how

554
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: did you say you want to get into coaching? Is

555
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: your focus like Kobe was seniorly in nature basketball basketball?

556
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: Basketball is AMR focused coaching, coaching, coaching. If it was coaching, coaching, coaching,

557
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: then it would be basketbasketball, basketball, basketball, bastball ball. Gonna

558
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: have to switch. You said you want to coach in

559
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: the NBA. Are you willing to maybe do a Staton

560
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: College or you just figure like just I mean I would.

561
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I don't know if like I

562
00:33:52,200 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: have a you're getting high mans a coach, you know

563
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: a lot of basketball experience, you're a basketball rain man.

564
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: Huh yeah yeah, but like lived it though, Yeah yeah,

565
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean, but here's the thing. Let me ask you this.

566
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: Those there's a saying that you know, doctors and lawyers.

567
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: See yeah, those that can't teach, those that can do.

568
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: Everybody that played the game can't coach the game. And

569
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the great coaches never played the game.

570
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: Can you parlay lamar olda player and the two time champion,

571
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: sixth man of the year winning a medal because a

572
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: lot of times the greater the player of the hard

573
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: it is for him to coach. But if you if

574
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: you go to Kobe's book, I wish I would have

575
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: had the book, yeah, because it is. There's a segment

576
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: when he talked about me being a glue to the team,

577
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: made the team with Kobe Bryant and power the saw. Right,

578
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: he calls the mall old him the blue right. It

579
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with basketball, right, he was the

580
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: man we know he was taking the last shot right,

581
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: the ball was going to power and the post the

582
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: power first. Right. But he called them Alden the Blue

583
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: because I understand personality. Right. I can get up with

584
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: the guitar, play the game, shoot around with shoot the ship.

585
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: That's what Phil had. Let me ask you this, that's

586
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: what Pat Rowley has. A lot of times people think

587
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: if you just put the five best players out there,

588
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna win. But what we've seen it's more than that.

589
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: It's a it's the camaraderie, chemistry. Chemistry. You gotta have

590
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: guys that want to go out to eat that when

591
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: they're not playing, they're calling on each other, checking up.

592
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: Oh what's up? Good, I'm good, right, I see them

593
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: all all right. A lot of some people say chemistry

594
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: is just the class that you're taking high school. So

595
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: there's more to it than that. It's important. Of course

596
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: you play sports. Of course I understand it. You know that,

597
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it is? Is it more? I mean, I

598
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: just played football, and now I understand chemistry. You got

599
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: fifty three guys. You got level on the offense, that

600
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: the level on defense, and then you got special teams.

601
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: You got five. It's only like fifteen guys. Yeah, you

602
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: around each other all all the time. You own the

603
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: plane together, your meetings, you walked through you at the game.

604
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: So basically, I mean, you wake up, you walk past

605
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: each other. I'm gonna see you more than my kids, Yes,

606
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: more than my family. Yes, off the season. Yeah, that's

607
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: how the bond is supposed to be, right, That's why

608
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: I love the Miami Heat and the Lakers. Everything is.

609
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: You didn't want to you you were very upset when

610
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: they traded you from Miami. You didn't want to leave.

611
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: After year. Now, I didn't want to leave, but I

612
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: was coming back to La. I was a clipper, right,

613
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: so I knew how it looked right on the other side,

614
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: and I got seven million dollars to come back home, right.

615
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: Not bad, nah, but you have some bad memories because

616
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: you leave. The part of your addiction started in Miami,

617
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: dealing with the drug and to say, yeah, that was

618
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: my first time I about having cocaine or whatever, But

619
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: I don't really I'm I'm true to myself. It could

620
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: have been anywhere. It just happened to be in Miami.

621
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: It could have been La. It could have been you know, Oklahoma.

622
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: It could have bewhar wherever, the wherever, wherever it was,

623
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: it could have been, could have been anywhere. So no

624
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: hard people. So what what was it? What is what

625
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: is it about pat Riley? We hear heat culture? What

626
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: what what is heat culture? What is pat discipline? Everything

627
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: is about to what's best for the team. That's discipline, discipline, discipline.

628
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: When I first moved down there, he was like, I'm la,

629
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give this money, but you know you're gonna

630
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: have to move your your kids and their mother that

631
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: like it. I'm not gonna just give you this money

632
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: and have you in the streets. When I first started

633
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: to play for pat Riley, he was the coach. Still

634
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: I thought my name was motherfucker. The first one I

635
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: thought my name was motherfucker. Motherfucker. Get your ass on

636
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: the line. Huh huh wait, it's like like a pit

637
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: bull you want to leash, just like huh. Second, I

638
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: read a story. I don't want you. I want you

639
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: to confirm that for the oh four Olympics, Yeah, I

640
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: always wanted to play Olympics. You want to play an Olympics,

641
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: but you needed to do something first. You used the facetia,

642
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: you use the prosthetic. Yeah, I hope. I ain't blown. Yeah,

643
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: I got a piece on. I always wanted to play Olympics.

644
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: That was like one picks. How it was for me,

645
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: it was like it was David Stern called my name, Yeah, Olympics,

646
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: NBA Championship, Right, So how did you didn't nobody know? Nah?

647
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: But how you going? Man? How you go this? Lamar?

648
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: When you you're taking the picks, they ain't gonna they

649
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: decided doing it in the NFL, they'd be looking and

650
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: they make you drop your drawing because you can't be sixteen. Nah,

651
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna drop your drugs. I'm like this big

652
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: old black dude with a wood You sixteen wouldn't make

653
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: old look. I wanted to always play on the pispot.

654
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: So you did what you had to do to make

655
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: sure you pass. You had to have you ever had

656
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: somebody have to take a drug test for you. Nah?

657
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: So that was the only time that you used the prostatic,

658
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: the only time only time. He's like, I've seen you,

659
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: like you're like, look at here, checking through the glasses.

660
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: But I'm saying because I mean, you can understand how

661
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: people are gonna find that hard to believe because the

662
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: first in two thousand and four, you use like the

663
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: first thing you go to. Okay, I'm gonna do the prostatic.

664
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: So did somebody tell you about that? Man, I'm gonna

665
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: pass drug because I know I just knew. I knew

666
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: I was dirty, right, So if I know I'm dirty,

667
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give him this PI. No, heck, no way,

668
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: That's I'd have been crazy embarrassing, Right, you win the

669
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: you win Lebronze Lebron. That would have been more. That

670
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: was more embarrassing what happened. I don't question coaching, but

671
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: I don't understand how you don't use young Way, young

672
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: Lebron and young Carmelo to your advantage, right to switch

673
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: to pace maybe right at the time. Yeah, I don't know.

674
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: Five at a time. It's like ego first, young ego.

675
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It was disastrous when you

676
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: first you get traded, You get traded as a part

677
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: of the deal. Shot goes to Miami, you come to

678
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: LA and the first couple of years it wasn't It

679
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: wasn't glamorous. Yeah it was. It was tough, and you

680
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: know what the expectation is in Laker Nation? What was

681
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: that like? It was? I mean it It was tough

682
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: on h on the other players, being around eight. He

683
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: wasn't twenty four yet, but being around eight, because eight

684
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: was still like stubborn, selfishly stubborn, right and give a fuck,

685
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: and he would tell you didn't give a fuck. Twenty

686
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: four knew how to he knew how to talk to

687
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: people a little back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, do you

688
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? How should I approaches? Dude? You

689
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean? But eight, and you know what

690
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: the fuck if he wasn't on his page and get

691
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: the fuck out for real? You shot wins a title

692
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: for Kobe makes a little track that could have been

693
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: our title too, because they beat Dallas that year, right, yeah,

694
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: that year we had dallags. I mean the Sun's down

695
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: three one. Yeah, so we beat the Sun free one.

696
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: We were sweeping through. We'd probably played what happened in

697
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: that Sun series. It was almost like people was criticizing

698
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: Kobe and it was almost like he said, well, I'm

699
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: gonna show you y'all't want me to shoot. Y'll talk

700
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: about im shooting too much. It was almost like he

701
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,959
Speaker 1: wouldn't everything that we thought about Kobe. He went away

702
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: from that. It's like, damn if you do, damn if

703
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 1: you don't, right, really well, I'm damn doing what I do. Yeah,

704
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: I ain't damn doing what I don't. Yeah, and he

705
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: just I don't know, I don't know it was in

706
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: his mind because that's the game. He wudn't shoot ball.

707
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: People say he wan't shot the ball last game, right,

708
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: Who the fuck knows? What do you think is going

709
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: through his mind when Shot wins that title. I'm gonna

710
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: get me one. I know that was money, right, there's

711
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: just win. I'm gonna get me one. Two thousand and nine,

712
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 1: you guys breakthrough. Well, first you lose to the Celtics.

713
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: How painful was that because one of the games that

714
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: I think it was was a Game four that you

715
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: guys had the big lead and they come, they come

716
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: all the way back and they track you down. You

717
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: win game five, and then you go back and you

718
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: have that historic defeating the game six. Do you feel

719
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: do you feel that's one of the ones that got

720
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: away because you had the game well and that was

721
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: that could have been a three people. Yeah, yeah, no disrespect.

722
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: That's when my like my this like for Boston Celtics

723
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: fans like growl, right, because I'm y'all beat us by

724
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: like thirty almost faulty, right, yeah in the final Yeah,

725
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: I don't they might have been better than you, guys, lamar.

726
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: I don't think there were forty points better than you.

727
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: But it just snowballed on you. And then the fans

728
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: surrounded our bus and continuously was shot our bus. Yeah,

729
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, then y'all won the game. That go leave

730
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: me a lot giving yourself. Y'all got to think what

731
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: happened to be the one? Right? We don't have to

732
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: shoot that way out this motherfucker. You wip so two

733
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, you lose, two thousand and nine, you

734
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: come back. You guys on a mission. It's supposed to

735
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: be because they're running the commercial of the muppets Lebron

736
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: and Kobe. It's supposed to be Ron and Kobe cows like,

737
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: oh yeah, And then they lost to Atlanta. They lost

738
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: to Orlando, but Didas fucked that, Like he's keeping up right,

739
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard with a master in that their rich against

740
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: against the Calves. But you get Orlando and you guys

741
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: have to go to overtime. If I'm not mistaken in

742
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: the first game, But I knew they wasn't gonna I

743
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: knew they wasn't gonna They couldn't keep playing it that much.

744
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: And hence why I tell you why, no disrespect, but

745
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: Andrew buying him probably could contested this. Him and Dwight

746
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: Howard is like they lillygagging and shit at half court. Right,

747
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: So now you figured if you just beat them up

748
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 1: and down the court, you're gonna be straight. You caller,

749
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: you the only chance of them having a fucking shot

750
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: and the finals to beat Kobe Bryant and his Lakers,

751
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: and you joking around at half court, Well, I was

752
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: senter who wants to go at you? Matter of fact,

753
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 1: you gotta go get him and pound. You're right, I

754
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,479
Speaker 1: knew they I knew they wasn't gonna win a search.

755
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: Now you win that title, you come back because I

756
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: believe in order in any sport to be especially especially

757
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: football the basketball, if you want to be remembered as

758
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: his story, to win it again, you gotta do it

759
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: back to back. They've been a lot of teams that

760
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: won won in a row and they forget, Yeah you won, congratulations,

761
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: but to repeat when you're not because the first one

762
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: you were hunting. Now you're being hunted. You get Boston again.

763
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: They just they just fumped you by almost four in

764
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: the game six. Now you getting them back now. And

765
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: you know Boston, Boston, La go way back to the sixties,

766
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: all the way and they they owned Magic, got him

767
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: a couple. Let me tell you something, how I knew

768
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: he was gonna win Game seven two because we won

769
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: We had home court, right, so I'm remember being a room.

770
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all, motherfucker's gonna let poor piss La Native

771
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 1: walk out of here the Staples Center with our shit.

772
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: Y'all buck it, let's go. But that was a game.

773
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: When you say the chemistry, because Kobe might have had

774
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: one of his worst shooting Custos games, that's that's a

775
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: football game. Yeah, that's football mentality. Pole. I think third

776
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: and goal, every player's third and goal. Pole have a

777
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: double double. Ron Art has hit the shot. He'll never

778
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: hit him. He never hit a shot before cutting it out.

779
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: Every player defense, defense were just scoring like seventy nine eighty. Yeah,

780
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: it was. It was a very it was a very

781
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: very low scoring game. You get into the fourth quarter,

782
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: you know, a it's not never now and I think

783
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: you guys are behind, but it's a very very type

784
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: ball game. What's the what's what's the arena? Like, what's

785
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: the what's the mood in the huddle? When Bill calls

786
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: time out and you know, you look up there start

787
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: the quarter, it's twelve minutes. All of a sudden, time out,

788
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: it's nine minutes. You look up, it's five minutes, and

789
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's two minutes. With like, it's

790
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: really really it's hard to explain, but because it's hard,

791
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 1: it's really what you all you hold at your whole life. Yeah,

792
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: to feel that moment, right, I wish I could feel

793
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: that moment right now, right, you know what I'm saying, right,

794
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: I guess intense joy. I never wasn't gonna cry when

795
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: when when Meta lines that three up. It's funny because

796
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna swing it to the corner.

797
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: I was ready to jack it up. I was shooting

798
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: that bitch already coming out about I was thinking, I

799
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: think Kobe at the top of the key, at the

800
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: top of the key, he swinging, use his body language,

801
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: why why are you? Why are you first? We probably

802
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: take it matter what the shooting. If you don't know

803
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: to do it it, you gotta pass it, shoot it,

804
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: or dribble it, but don't hold it. Don't hold him.

805
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: That's the wrong basketball that's the wrong basketball player. Let't

806
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: ask your question. A few questions about you mentioned the

807
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: White Howard earlier. Y'all beat the Magic with the White

808
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals. I personally believe Dwight Howard should

809
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: have been on the seventy fifth anniversary team. I'm not

810
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: talking okay, you want to say Houston or you want

811
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: to say La and he bounced around to Atlantic. But

812
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: if you look at those eight years that he had

813
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: an Orlando, he was a top five player. He finished

814
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: second in the MVP, three time Defensive Player of the Year,

815
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: he was like three or four time first team All

816
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: NBA and a lot of these guys that got on

817
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: there had never been the de facto leader and taking

818
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: a team to the finals. He was the best player

819
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: on the team and he should have definitely been there.

820
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: Why do you why don't you think he was on it?

821
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: Do you think, like what you're saying, it was left off? Yes,

822
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: because what you said the man jogging, he laughing and

823
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: joking at half court only the only way I could say.

824
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: Because they compared him to Shock ye engaged nobody and

825
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: he ain't played, but he ain't played with the same

826
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: tenactity right the sha right, he wasn't nasty the hell

827
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: of a player, but Shack was like, but but you

828
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And I think that's the only

829
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: because it's only comparison. You can compare the White Howard's

830
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: game too. I think there's a secure on that his

831
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: style right back down, back down, back down, dunk right.

832
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: Do you do you believe the White worked on his

833
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: game because athletic about I mean, you look, but even

834
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: if he worked on his game or not, that I

835
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: shouldn't have anything because he did what he did without

836
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 1: working on the game. If it would say he didn't

837
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: work on his game. He got those three Defensive Player

838
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: of the Year, he got those all NBA. He has

839
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: thirteen thousand red, fourteen thousand rebounds. He did all of that.

840
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: So no matter what you think of him and how

841
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: serious he took the game, he did that. There are

842
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that made it off. There are

843
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that took the game more serious

844
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: than the White. Doesn't have the resume as the White

845
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: that made that team. And so that's what That's that's

846
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: my problem. I got a problem. Well it's not. Yeah,

847
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 1: but you gotta understand, well, why are you putting people

848
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: on the team? Then what's your reasons for having somebody

849
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: on the teams for what they didn't leave right? Right?

850
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: And whether you like or just like, well he didn't

851
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: take the game serious enough. Well, he took it serious

852
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 1: enough to get those awards. That's stupid whoever makes that decisions.

853
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: You played for pat Rilett and you played for Phil Jackson.

854
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: Give me some similarities and some some craps, some some

855
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: stark contrast to the coaching style. That's just like O

856
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: in vinegar, Now I on the sandwich. How you getting inovated? Yeah,

857
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: it make it taste good, right, right? But you put

858
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: them together like are they supposed to go together? Right? Nah?

859
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: One is gonna guide you to the water, right, the

860
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: other one gonna tell you how to fun to get there?

861
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, field guide field, God, Pat

862
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: is gonna tell you how to get there. Just different style, right,

863
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: different man? But how the NBA is vastly different today

864
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: that it was when you first came the league and

865
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: you had How would pat riley coaching style be received?

866
00:52:53,200 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: Today with today's NBA player, come all the bull what

867
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: They wouldn't ben to take that shit, cause they would

868
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: probably feel like some motherfucking making me feel like I'm

869
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: six years old. Right, But it's just to break you

870
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: down and build you back up, right, you know what

871
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean. They wouldn't bay take that. They won't bay

872
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: take back. You had uh a reality you reality show

873
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: with the Kardashians. What was that light? That was the

874
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: best time of my adult life, besides beating those strokes,

875
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: those heart attacks. Right, because I'm already a king right

876
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: in La. So I'm went to I'm not the problem

877
00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: of my career and I'm married into TV royalty right right.

878
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: It was like red carpet, red carpet. I mean, you

879
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: were probably more well known for being married to one

880
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: of the Kardashians. It's funny because I can tell when

881
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: people come up to me. I can tell if they

882
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: come up to me because Oldham or Lammy Lammy was

883
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: like my name on a brad Dasha, Right, I can

884
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: tell a difference. So where they know me from him,

885
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 1: I mean that's an extreme, that's a big crossover. Yeah,

886
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 1: of course I want a six minute a year award.

887
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: When I was filming Chloe and Lamar, Wow, can I

888
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: get my number? Retire Jennie Buss please for that. I mean,

889
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what's more laker than that getting married

890
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: on TV? Yeah you did that man from his craft

891
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 1: on the court. And I don't know if it's raciality TV.

892
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: We could say that acting or I mean you was

893
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: being Lamar, that was being La Mom. But I mean

894
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: that's like, come on, that's like if that don't get

895
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: your number? Words tired as a laker? Come on? Would

896
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: you do another reality show? If somebody says, okay, let's

897
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: just say you get married again or you start dating

898
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: and they said, Lamar, we want you, we want we

899
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: want to put this on you down with that a

900
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: reality show? Yeah? Yeah, because I know how to you

901
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: know maximize does did that? Did the reality show? Did

902
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: it hurt your marriage to Chloe? Oh? It made us

903
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: at the time when I was no, it wasn't losing

904
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: to my addiction, right, and it made us closer? Did

905
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: she did she? Did she know you had it? Did

906
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: she know? You know? Not until I know? So you

907
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: hit it. But that's when you're an addict, You're gonna

908
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: you can hide things you're gonna you're a liar, right

909
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: because you lie to yourself. She did. She asked you

910
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: about it, ask me like, what, lamar, are you doing drugs? Mola? No, no, no.

911
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: I had to bring it to her, like fuck it

912
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: because you're gonna find out and you rather you rather

913
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: for her to hear it from you than someone else

914
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: to see it. You know, I want to see it, right,

915
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 1: because you know, I understand they were stand up side

916
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: social contradiction in my thoughts sometimes, but I understood with

917
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 1: some things, like I can't bring it to her because

918
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm bringing it to the whole family. Right, you feel

919
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Yes? Yes? How does being married, doing

920
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: a reality show and then being on social media? How

921
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: does one navigate that? You give it? You submit? I

922
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: never even really fucked with the social media. I still

923
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: don't know how to post on Instagram, right, you know

924
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I still I'm honestly, I still don't

925
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: know how to post. But I just I never really,

926
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: that's y'all. I don't I know how crazy social media is.

927
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to do with it. Do you think

928
00:56:55,600 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: it's impossible for someone to be as active on social

929
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: media as they are being a relationship because I think

930
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: when you become on social media, you just open up

931
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: your life, especially when you like all the time and

932
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: you talk it's so funny because I don't it's your

933
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: because it's so funny because you So everything I say

934
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: is like contracted myself because you ask me what I

935
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: do reality TV Again, I'm like, oh so, but I

936
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: don't really mess with my social media, like I'm not

937
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: on there, right, Like, let me see you on my

938
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 1: DM so let me see what these people talking about.

939
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't really don't. You don't rock with it, like,

940
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: don't move me, you know what I mean. I'm still

941
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: Lamar right, no matter how close I am to my

942
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: starting a walk with Fan, Right, I'm still lamar Oden

943
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: from my thirty first year. Right. So do you do

944
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: you feel like it's some things I still want to

945
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: like simplify right as much as I can write, you know,

946
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: without people being because you know what you're on social

947
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: media when you do a reality show, you you're you're

948
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: opening and I'm six right, you're opening your open head,

949
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: You're opening your life to be critiqued. Yeah, but that's

950
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: some things that you just you submit to you know that, Like,

951
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: so I'm talking along with it. If I do that,

952
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be checking for the comments. Bro, you

953
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: dated Holdong, How do you get married thirty days? That

954
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: was the reality show in it up itself, getting married

955
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: thirty days, getting married thirty days after day. It's so crazy.

956
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: It's like you submitting like that. I don't know, but

957
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: it's like me, I always you know, talking to my

958
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: assistant order that's it's my gut. Like with my gut

959
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: to me, that's like God talking to me. So my

960
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: gut says something, I just go with it. And that

961
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: was like I said, it was the most it was

962
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: the best time of my adult life. So I did

963
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: something right. Yeah, I enjoyed it right. I remember you

964
00:58:55,160 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: was dating Taraji before Chloe. That's why I preyea Taragi Taragi.

965
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: She's a real one. She took me to go see

966
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: Prince performing his crib when night we haven't dinner with

967
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: Angela Jolie and Brad Pitt and farmers with it right,

968
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, this Laker ship is crazy. Yeah, no, no,

969
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: that's that's that Garagi shit, I think me. Yeah, but

970
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: even in that, you think that you like the Laker.

971
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: You think Lamar Oldham pulls up for the Laker pulled

972
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: that up. I'm both both because the Laker, me being

973
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: a Laker, put me in uh contact. Yeah, so you go.

974
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: So you go see Prince just chicken in his crib.

975
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: And then it was crazy about is that it was

976
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: real dark room. But whenever you got up on somebody,

977
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: it was like somebody that you know by name of face,

978
00:59:54,480 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm here, you miss do you miss that? What going

979
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: to Prince career? Obviously he's I can get it. I

980
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: can get it. I'm gonna be honest. That's why i

981
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: love La because because you still Lamar, you still went. Jeff, Yeah,

982
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: I went out I swear to yesterday. I was like, man,

983
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: I could easily coach or have something to do with

984
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,439
Speaker 1: this Lakers in this place because I went to mister

985
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: child yesterday. Yeah, it was like I felt like it

986
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: was twenty ten. Wow, Like damn, it felt good to

987
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: be out here. The wedding was on the show, it

988
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: was on TV, so what were normal? Obviously you have jitters.

989
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't have enough. But that's why I knew. That's

990
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: why I knew like it was right and and for

991
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: at that point my life. I knew it was right

992
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: because I had women bad ones. Yeah you know what

993
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I ain't. I gave all of it up.

994
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: That's you. You have to submit, broh. And you gave faith?

995
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: Is like that too, right? But that's what I was

996
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: talking about, me surviving and being able to walk and

997
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: talk and all that. My faith is strong. That's what

998
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: made me not question question whether I was gonna walk

999
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 1: or talk. Okay. I was just like, well, but let

1000
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: me ask you this. It felt right. You believe Chloyd

1001
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: was right? Then how could you do what you did?

1002
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: I was doing drugs, So you believe if you were

1003
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: sold with you to never h? Hell yeah, I'll still

1004
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: be married now. That would be two thousand and seven,

1005
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: twenty two years. Easy that because you got when you

1006
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: didn't on somebody got the same temperament too, right? Is that?

1007
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: Is that one of your biggest regrets of your career,

1008
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: your life as a man. But I gave him a

1009
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: vine in front of guard. Right. I would rather just

1010
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: not said anything, just yeah, it just hung out and

1011
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: see if we can get to fifteen years or something.

1012
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: Didn't do it like that, then lie right in God's

1013
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: face Why do you think the show was canceled after

1014
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: two seasons? Because I was I wasn't prepare, I wasn't

1015
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: married no more, or wasn't living a married man's life.

1016
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: How are you? How were you able to keep that secret? Though? Man?

1017
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how old are you? Not? Lamarty forty two?

1018
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: Go back forty two year old Lamar, go back and

1019
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: talk to twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty year

1020
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: old Lamar? What would you tell it? Take your time?

1021
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: I think saint no, especially to the flesh. You know

1022
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that five minutes of feeling good or whatever,

1023
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: M not one. You can have a lifetime of happiness, right,

1024
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just throw it all away risk reward. Blow

1025
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 1: at your question? There was ah Chloe wanted another baby,

1026
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: and I'm assuming that way she did it. This way

1027
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: is that she wanted her kids to have the same father. True.

1028
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: And I don't know what this new baby's name is.

1029
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's been released yet. But you

1030
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: said should have hit your boy up the mother? Yeah,

1031
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm because I don't like I'm trying to think of it. Right.

1032
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: Why didn't y'all have kids? Why you do y'all was

1033
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: getting high. My sperm was probably way of trap. I

1034
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: was definitely I was in there. I was you know

1035
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But yeah, my whole thing with that

1036
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: was like, will you be serious of but you just

1037
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: throw it out there, you just like ky, you call

1038
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: you boy if your boy could No, I don't know.

1039
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm not being sure because I'm trying to find the

1040
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: psychology about it, Like, Okay, you want to have the

1041
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: same baby with the same father, but he don't want

1042
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: to be with you, right because I thought because you

1043
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: look at Kim Kim, Kim has all our kids are

1044
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: from Kanye kindly all our kids are from Travis Scott,

1045
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: kid of the baby girl doesn't have any kids, Chloe,

1046
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: She's like, hey, I gotta keep the traying going. Yeah,

1047
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: I get it, but that bit me may all the same,

1048
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: like you better getting rid of that. But I he

1049
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: don't want to be if he I can get it.

1050
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: If that man is saying I'm here, I want to

1051
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: raise my children with you have sea, Yeah, I get it,

1052
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: but if he ain't checking in on you, that don't

1053
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: make sense to me. Like sister, yeah, and that's says hell, brother,

1054
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm not her lover with no more. I'm saying that

1055
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: as your friend, Lamar. Yeah, if he's saying that he

1056
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: don't want to be with you, I'm gonna you know

1057
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: them better than I will ever know them. So just

1058
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: taking a take it from me. You're a big bro. Yeah,

1059
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: so that's that's your relationship. Now you're more like a

1060
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: big brother. Like that's so yeah, I can't really you know.

1061
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: That's why I could be at this point in time.

1062
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: You have to be none else would you? Would you

1063
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: take when if he's like, you know what, Lamar, let's

1064
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: trying to work this thing out. Who Chloe? If you say,

1065
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: lamrlet's trying to work it. We did have it your

1066
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: own drugs. We did have a great time. It was

1067
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: a great little run that we had. Let's let's let's

1068
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: let's let's give it a let's go, let's try it again.

1069
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: Sounds print up right here. Nah, but I got all

1070
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: that bread, she got braided. Nah. You know, but sometimes

1071
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: you know when you do it like you do damage

1072
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: to a woman and all that stuffing, might Anteres have

1073
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: to let it go, yeah, because she's gonna be looking

1074
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: at you the corner her eye. Right. You feel every

1075
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: woman that walked bold every woman that give you a

1076
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: compliment and all that it would be too much, too much,

1077
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: too much of amount on the clock, too high amount

1078
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: of the clock, right, I think at that point, Okay,

1079
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: last one who gets back first? Kanye and Kim, Chloe

1080
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: and Lamar? That's it because Kindl and Travis are together.

1081
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: Every people kindled are together? Who gets back? That's a

1082
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: reality show. That's a bread I'll be working on left

1083
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: behind the scenes of viol You Kim and Kanye, I bean,

1084
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,479
Speaker 1: that'd be a good reality show too, right for Chloe Lamar?

1085
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: Reality show? Yeah? Or even if they're doing a reality

1086
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: show like it wouldn't even have to be us like

1087
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: being a lover. Let's just put them in a in

1088
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: a house together, see if they could be friends. Who

1089
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: Kim and Kanye? Are you and Chloe? Because you and Clode,

1090
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: you Ecloye got a good relationship, right men, Chloe, I

1091
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I would think it was good. Well you,

1092
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: I mean you hadn't talked to it an how you

1093
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: won sixth Man of the Year. Let's talk about this, uh,

1094
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: because I don't think this team gets enough credit. The

1095
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: twenty eleven Mavericks. They swept you the defending two time champs.

1096
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: They blew the doors off the ok S thunder they

1097
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: beat Miami. We just got tired, man, If y'all don't

1098
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: get ben it beat the breaks off you lamar. But

1099
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: like you said, oh eight, we shouldn't won a championship. Yeah, right, finals,

1100
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: we get it done old nine. Yeah, we get it

1101
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: done in ten eleven. But I think they were really

1102
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: good that year too though. No, no, they had to

1103
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: be really good. Yeah, because it's not okay, let's just

1104
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: say you guys got tired. Okay, see one tired because

1105
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: they're young. That's young Kevin Duran, that's young surgeon, that's

1106
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: young Russ. Them being us probably gave them that. Oh

1107
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 1: we just beat the defeating champ. You know what I'm saying?

1108
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: Because one place were they in that Dallas? They were

1109
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: they't have the first see that they don't have to

1110
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: win L six or they were they were they were

1111
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: seeding low. I think if they played us, yeah, so

1112
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: we had the second seed that they had to be seventh,

1113
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: right and they did, were y'all the second seed? Then

1114
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: fourth maybe? Yeah? I think it's four maybe, but then

1115
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: they'd be like the mental the mental state. We are

1116
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: team that shit just propelled them like we ain't gonna lose. Yeah,

1117
01:07:55,520 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: we just beat the Lagers because even though we probably

1118
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: one of the best team in the regular season, we

1119
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: were the favorites to come out to West that Yeah,

1120
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure Dallas one of the favorites.

1121
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: That is. Yeah, cause they beat swept you guys. They

1122
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: beat russ they beat Roughing and four one and beat

1123
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: the four three four two. You got a pretty good team.

1124
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: I understand. Look, I understand Jason Kidd was not the

1125
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: Jason Kidd of eight years earlier, but Dirt was at

1126
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: the apex of his power, playing extremely well. Uh, Sean Marion,

1127
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: they had h Stevenson man get them to get that

1128
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: team Cray. No, I'm giving them credit. I'm giving them

1129
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: credit because they beat us, beat the breaks off, they

1130
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,560
Speaker 1: beat us. They we didn't get it, dub and we

1131
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: lost game one. We had Game one one, Yeah, NLA

1132
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 1: and they just rolled down momentum and took it to

1133
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: the house. I was a pebe legend though, Shannon, Oh,

1134
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you that take. Let me ask you

1135
01:08:55,680 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: this news break the Lake. They're trying to trade for

1136
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: CP three, but they're gonna include lamar Oder. Why when

1137
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: you know trades are part of the game, why did

1138
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 1: that upset you so much? That was two thousand and

1139
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: probably eleven twelve, thir twelve. I don't know. It's just

1140
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: like when your girlfriend tell you, shi't like that. We

1141
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: sh don't like you know more. You know that's part

1142
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: of the game. But I like that. Damn. I don't

1143
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: did so much for you. But you know what I mean,

1144
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: don't sacrifice for y'all. I could have left, oh, I

1145
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: could have left right a year or two ago when

1146
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 1: y'all asked me to come off the bench my free

1147
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 1: agent year, right, and you said, okay, chill cool. No,

1148
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: I didn't say that at first. I say, you know

1149
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying getting the set, Yeah, I say, y'all

1150
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: gonna talk to somebody. Gotta talk to me into that ship,

1151
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,560
Speaker 1: Phil Kobe, I better sit me down or something, have

1152
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: a one on one with me and tell me why

1153
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 1: I need to give up this thirty million dollars or

1154
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 1: twenty million to come off y'all bench. So what did

1155
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: Kobe tell you, because that's what they said they sit

1156
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: the clothes there. That the closest deal. What Kobe tell you, yello,

1157
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: we can't do it without your brother. I ain't. No,

1158
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: we ain't know what we're gonna be able to do

1159
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: with out you. Just like that, that's all you needed

1160
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: to hear. So you got me all right, You got

1161
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 1: me on the back, all right. But that's twenty Maine man. Yeah,

1162
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: I could still be spending some of that money. Brother.

1163
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: Where you where you went to the Lakers? Did you

1164
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: lose your love for basketball? Back to the Lakers? Know

1165
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: when you went to them? Excuse me? With the MAVs.

1166
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: When you went, when you went, when you went to

1167
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: the MAVs, what happened? It just seemed like I didn't

1168
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: want to be there. And then this man, one of

1169
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: the most powerful men in basketball. I told him when

1170
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: I went through, that's some of my couch cousin got killed. Yeah,

1171
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 1: I was in a real fucked up Spike Minster, So

1172
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 1: I told him I keep my sisters. I had a

1173
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: real good situation in LA. I don't really want to

1174
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: come to your team. This is what I'm going through mentally.

1175
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: My closest cousin just got killed. Right first game, I'm

1176
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: playing bad. What the fuck are you doing? The owner's

1177
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: yelling at me from the sideline from the sidelof from

1178
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: the bench. Yeah, because he's sitting next to He's sitting

1179
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 1: next to the team. So I'm like, I'm just I

1180
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 1: started comparing the situation. I'm like, Joe, worst wouldn't be

1181
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: doing this shit. The fuck the word. The worst thing

1182
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: you can do is compare. You feel what I'm saying.

1183
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: In any relationship, you gotta lead the bags, whatever, whatever, whatever,

1184
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: whatever's sue a queer lead at lead out of the door.

1185
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: They come into a totally new, a new, a new bag.

1186
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: I start calling my agent like, Yo, this nigga miss

1187
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 1: my fucking screaming at me for playing bad after everything

1188
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: I told him. I've been through the summer knowing my

1189
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 1: head and out of the game. Yeah, mister jumped Charlotte.

1190
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: Mister Lap did too. It was just a bad fit.

1191
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: And then he then were playing in Memphis whatever, I'm

1192
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 1: shipping all over the court, playing bad, and he tries

1193
01:12:55,520 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 1: to get me in the game, right mark human, Yeah,

1194
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: this white man. Yeah, he goes get in the game.

1195
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa whoa? That man kick you

1196
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: dieting the game, and it would hello, what did you do?

1197
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: I was about to fuck him up. But Vince Carter

1198
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: was sitting right here, like sitting and Vince see me,

1199
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: and Vince just got up and set him on chill

1200
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: out because he put his feet on me. I was

1201
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: gonna fuck him up. Yeah, he supposed to it. I

1202
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 1: wouldn't even felt bad. I wouldn't even I wouldn't even

1203
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 1: felt bad. I ain't gonna lie. You only kick a dog.

1204
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: I ain't been letting him man. Putting no feet on me,

1205
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: that was. I would have wrapped him if he would

1206
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: have smacked me, saying if he'd just say kick your

1207
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: asking him out to be okay? Oh yeah, I'll have

1208
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: got him with that too. It. You gotta wear asks

1209
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: with it either way. But you definitely not gonna pat

1210
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: your feet on me. Your feet made for walking. Clearly

1211
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: you don't like walking. Because you put your feet on me,

1212
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: you're not walking. So that was the end of it.

1213
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,560
Speaker 1: Once he did that, that was it. Did you have

1214
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: a conversation Did you have a conversation with it after that? Yeah? No,

1215
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: you gotta talk to him. Man. You gotta say, Mark, Bro,

1216
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 1: you can't put your feet on I mean, it's I

1217
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: almost feel bad telling that story publicly, but I've said

1218
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 1: it before publicly because I understand power. He ain't got

1219
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: that much power, and I understand how powerful he is

1220
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: in the world. That's okay, you know what I'm saying.

1221
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's when I was just like, you know,

1222
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: it would be best if you just yeah, just Oakley

1223
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: tells a story about at the Clippers. I believe you

1224
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: were at the Clippers and he came into your Jeff

1225
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: mcinners pus, Jeff McGinnis. He is that true. Yeah, he

1226
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 1: did that. Y'all ain't do nothing. Let me tell you something, man,

1227
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: you wouldn't say with Debo that say would riding call

1228
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: him with Debo when they're rolling dice and Debo jumped over.

1229
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: They didn't help if y'all father had to help it.

1230
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: I know I was. I was with the ships. I

1231
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 1: was talking ship and Charles Oley was his big ass chest.

1232
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: He was like, hello, I told him, motherfucker, I had

1233
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: punishment waiting for him, he said, I told him, I

1234
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: have punishment waiting for I'm like doing the purpose punishment.

1235
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna back. Yeah, I'm gonna chill out on that.

1236
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: I've seen we just did them, my man, I'm gonna sill.

1237
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: He's a big dude. Okay, dude, he's okay being fast

1238
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: forward All Star Games in DC. If I'm not mistaken,

1239
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: your guys at the hotel, I heard about this one.

1240
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 1: He's lying. He lying that never happened. That didn't happened. No,

1241
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: because he said he said that he walked in an elevator. Yeah,

1242
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: and I was on there with my boys. Yeah, and

1243
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 1: they walked off. Y'all got off. I mean, it's not

1244
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: It isn't his book, but I I'm gonna I'm gonna

1245
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 1: take that ass. You ain't wanting no confrontation, you like,

1246
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: you know what, But that ain't happened though, Okay, I

1247
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: believe I ain't. That didn't happen. I believe you know

1248
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: what happened, because I'm gonna keep it. I probably would

1249
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: have had to have them to stop him, them from

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01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 1: them from whipping oaks ass. If they feel like somebody's

1251
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: threatening me, right old him. I'm gonna finck who you are,

1252
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: NBA player, If you're feeling they threatened, Lamar oldham Mercer

1253
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: right from my you know what I'm saying, ain't nobody

1254
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: gonna know. But he I don't remember that. But he

1255
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: did walk into shoot around and put he did that

1256
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 1: walk right up to it that he that happened, y'all

1257
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 1: did ain't nobody jump o yall, y'all have ain't that

1258
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 1: shit happened so fast and he and it was like

1259
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 1: a chart you ain't knowing and cart him somebody get

1260
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: hit the spinning around like spun around. I looked at

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01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: his feeling like, damn, jeff you right there like he

1262
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: had a dentness face. But yeah, so Jeffers Jeffer is

1263
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 1: a real thorough dude, though, But didn't nobody did you did? Nobody?

1264
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: Didn't nobody see him as didn't nobody see him coming?

1265
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 1: How about it walked from one year y'all at the

1266
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 1: other end, and don't nobody see nothing? Oak didn't want

1267
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: none of that smoke from Jefferson people, though they had

1268
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 1: some people on his ass. You know that, You know that?

1269
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: How close do you follow the current NBA? Watch as

1270
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 1: many games the reck TV allows me to Obviously you're

1271
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: a laker. But Luca, Luca, how Luca do that? Luca? Luca?

1272
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: Luca probably can't bitch, probably can't bitch that glass. Luca

1273
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 1: probably gonna run like a ten flat forty. He's probably

1274
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: the antithesis of everything a great basketball players should look like.

1275
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: But he busted people. You know what. That's why I

1276
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: love him so much, because he shows this game like

1277
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: and while I really like watching him is because anybody

1278
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 1: be like so hyped the player and he just they'd

1279
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 1: be trying to speed him up and he'd be going, Now,

1280
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to go that I don't want to

1281
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: go that fast. I'm gonna stay right here in first gear.

1282
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: You can't get me to go to see of the third.

1283
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 1: I'mously gonna stay in first. But because speed is exceptive.

1284
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: And then when he do like put on the gear,

1285
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 1: you way off cause I'd like Luca braun Ah of course,

1286
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: Greek free, James Harden. I like the way they played

1287
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 1: the game, especially players that see the game of step

1288
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: ahead CP three feel me making players better? Right? You

1289
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: came up the bitch one sixth man of the year.

1290
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: Do you think that would be a role Rush should

1291
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,799
Speaker 1: or could embrace or does I don't think Russell Westbrook

1292
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: should come off the bench for whoever, for what? But

1293
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 1: I don't like I don't Russell. I don't know why

1294
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: people like while he getting a bad because the legers

1295
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 1: didn't do well and Ship he didn't do well either.

1296
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: A d played the ad Harley played. Yeah, Lebron missed.

1297
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 1: Broun played fifty four fifty five games, so he missed.

1298
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: The offense is terrible. Don't have no there's nothing fluid

1299
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 1: about your offense. You're giving a ball Lebron. And let

1300
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 1: me say this is let me tell you how stupid

1301
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: NBA team so right, really right? They give the ball

1302
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: to their best player, right right. They put that play

1303
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 1: in the pick and roll that player most of the times,

1304
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 1: he handles the ball almost to the shot clocks at

1305
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: the end. Right then he's passionate to a player that's

1306
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 1: not as good as him and has to make or

1307
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: take a shot and less it's time as he had

1308
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 1: the ball. So he's getting the ball to your best player.

1309
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 1: He's dripping the ball in to pick and roll. He's

1310
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 1: just handling it to half the end of the clock,

1311
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: and he's given it to a player less caliber to

1312
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 1: make the player at the end of the shot clock.

1313
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm mostly all officers like that. Yeah, I

1314
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 1: don't mind that, But you know what, I want to

1315
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 1: put it in a shooter's hand that's not as good

1316
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 1: as me, but that can shoot. But even if it's

1317
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 1: just a shooter. The shooter is not as good as Yeah,

1318
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 1: the player that was handling the ball, that's as But

1319
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: I just don't look. I think Russ is a phenomenal player.

1320
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: I just think he'll be a better player as the leads. No, no,

1321
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 1: as it started somewhere else. You think Russ can never

1322
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: be Russ as the third option because that's what the

1323
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: that's what he is on the lake. How Yeah, because

1324
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: he's had the ball his whole If that's what you

1325
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: have to be. Good players adjust to their situation when

1326
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: you know if well, if you don't adjust, then you

1327
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: he has to leave it. If you're not gonna adjust

1328
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: to being the third best player when you're right, then

1329
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: you have to leave because you're the third best playing

1330
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 1: on the team. Right. And that's my only point. I'm

1331
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 1: not saying that he's not a good player, but I'm

1332
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: saying what he's always been at Okay, see what he

1333
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: was at Washington, what he was at Houston. Yeah, because

1334
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 1: they look at him the ball and just said, no,

1335
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: you have to play off the ball now, right, if

1336
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: you want to win. He's never won a championship, right,

1337
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: And so how do you after after fifteen years of

1338
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 1: playing it this way. Well, I guess Russi and ad

1339
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 1: To just should have asked down and say Broun and

1340
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 1: I think that's what they thought when they when they

1341
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 1: signed off, when they were talking in the beginning about

1342
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 1: him coming. I'm sure everybody had a clear idea of

1343
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: what the situation was gonna be. What did you watch

1344
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: the Lakers A lot? I did every single freaking game.

1345
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: What do you what would you think their problem was?

1346
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 1: Because the problem was definitely defense? But dat what defense?

1347
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 1: Because you had guys that have never played defense at

1348
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 1: any point in time in their career, and the guys

1349
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 1: that had played defense were old Trevor REESA is old

1350
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 1: defensive team game, but they had older ad Okay. A

1351
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 1: D is the best defensive player, but A D was

1352
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 1: in street clothes, dressed like you and I right now.

1353
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: So he can't help you defensively, and you don't have

1354
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 1: anybody that can really stay in front of anybody. So

1355
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 1: now it's a it's a layup line to the basket.

1356
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 1: Lebron can Lebron can give you spurts some defense, but

1357
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not expecting Lebron to play defense like

1358
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 1: he did in Cleveland, in Miami in your nineteen you're eighteen,

1359
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: definitely not in your twenty. I stopped watching them when

1360
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 1: I realized that. I didn't give up, but I gave up. Yeah,

1361
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: And because it's I started. It started the freshman when

1362
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: it frustrate me, and I realized that was pushing Lebron.

1363
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: It'sn't pushing the rest of their players, right, And like

1364
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 1: when people come yeah Lebron and Kobe, I would say,

1365
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: the only difference is what Kobe had inside of him

1366
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: rubbed off on all of us. So Bron should grab

1367
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: people by the throat. I don't. I don't. Whatever you

1368
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 1: gotta do like that will to make them that's not.

1369
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: That's not it's not it's not. It's not him personally, films,

1370
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 1: it's not him. So I can you know. I don't

1371
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 1: fought him for that, but I thought that would happen.

1372
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 1: I saw what you said, Kareem is to go if Lebron. Now,

1373
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you said that because you believe it,

1374
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: or you said that because he's a New York native.

1375
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 1: I mean, y'all guys stick together, all in New York

1376
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 1: can stick together. But if no, I love basketball, Yeah,

1377
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: That's why I say that from from the eighth grade two,

1378
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 1: let's say age thirty five. Ye, another body was better

1379
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: in Kareem. He went to college and you know about

1380
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 1: the story. Yeah, beat the beat me slay. Yeah, he

1381
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: was a freshman freshman, couldn't play back there. Yeah, but

1382
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: his freshman team beat the defending national champions. Other players

1383
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: can dunk. I don't know no other player that can

1384
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 1: take that seventeen foot Scott hook. Do you think Kareem

1385
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 1: getting the credit that he deserved because he's never thought

1386
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: of it? No, no, no, no, no, he don't. He

1387
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 1: changed his name to a Muslim name in the sixties

1388
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 1: in America because he has the most MVPs. Everything was

1389
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 1: six titles. He has third most. He had the most points.

1390
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: I think he has the third most rebounds. I mean Milwaukee, Milwaukee,

1391
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 1: Kareem Alu Alcinder. He was putting on the floor boom

1392
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 1: boom boom stuff. That's what they called it. Stuff. Yeah,

1393
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He he has the most

1394
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: unstoppable shot ever created exactly. I mean, you could talk

1395
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: about Jordan and Kobe's fade away, you can talk about

1396
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. You know how you said you said Jordan

1397
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 1: or Kobe's fadeaway. Yeah, I mean you don't say. You

1398
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,759
Speaker 1: don't say Kareem or Scott. No, no, no, no, Scott

1399
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: hook is the most unstoppable shop it were created, shot

1400
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 1: ever created. It's not even close. It's so funny. I

1401
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: don't I don't even remember like me taking some of

1402
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 1: those when I was like little like being just like practicing.

1403
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 1: Because you think about it. I mean, normally, when you

1404
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 1: shoot the ball, you're looking at the rim. He's throwing

1405
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 1: the sky hooked the ball tover. Hey he looking at

1406
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 1: the rim. But the balls over here, I take an

1407
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 1: enormous amount of like skilled though. Yeah, flipping. It's crazy

1408
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 1: because Kareem was damned that's sixty years old. Were playing

1409
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 1: we're here we uh uh. He was coaching with us

1410
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 1: on the Clippers. Yeah, with Mike all little Candy, and

1411
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 1: he like her. He working out all little Candy, all

1412
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 1: little Candy like. It was kind of like and Karree

1413
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 1: was like, oh hold up, bring that shit down here,

1414
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: bring that ball down here? What bust his ass? What for?

1415
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 1: We're like two poopers after the room. What bust his ass? Like? Yeah,

1416
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 1: young fella, take some of this. I was like yeah,

1417
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: a cat but busted. That's true story too. Kareb at

1418
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:13,879
Speaker 1: sixty years old giving it gay candy man the business

1419
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 1: giving it to him. How's your sobriety going? Well, I

1420
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: do a smoke a little weed. I don't even drink though,

1421
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:30,759
Speaker 1: very rack. You're good facts every day fact. But lamar,

1422
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: you know every thing to do. But you know you

1423
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 1: gotta walk. You gotta walk by. You got by pack

1424
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 1: your store, You go to a restaurant and people already

1425
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 1: drinks every day. You got this right here, that this

1426
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 1: one dude, get me to do no cocaine? Do you

1427
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 1: want to bottom? Hell? Yeah, I don't. I don't get it.

1428
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: Just a stunt and I'll share it. But I don't

1429
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: really drink a lot Like yeah, I don't don't drik

1430
01:26:55,280 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: a lot. Say say shay, that's they call you? Probably

1431
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: say right, that's what they call me. Man. I'm proud

1432
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 1: of you. I'm happy you. Appreciates for sharing your story.

1433
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: Thanks for sharing a lot of some of the NBA stories.

1434
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 1: But your life is what you've been able to overcome.

1435
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: Have to be convenient appreciated, must success, bro, you know

1436
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: what's all my life running? All my life sacrifice hustle,

1437
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: bad pricing, Want a slice? Got the broller dice swath

1438
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 1: all my life. I've been grinding all my life, all

1439
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 1: my life, and running all my life. Sacrifice, hustle, bad pricing,

1440
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: Want a slice? Got the broller dice swath all my life.

1441
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life.