WEBVTT - CZM Rewind: Shinzo Abe, the World's Most Assassinated Man

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to take it Happened here a podcast that is

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<v Speaker 1>not happening this week because we are on vacation, so

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<v Speaker 1>instead of normal episodes, you are getting this. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is our immediate reaction to the assassination of Shinzo Abbe,

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<v Speaker 1>which has turned out to be maybe the most successful

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<v Speaker 1>modern political assassination, at least, at the very least the

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<v Speaker 1>most successful modern political assassination that wasn't carried out with

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<v Speaker 1>the CIA. Now, one thing to keep in mind is

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<v Speaker 1>we recorded this episode before it was formerly known that

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<v Speaker 1>the reason that Abe was killed by the electric blunderbuss

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<v Speaker 1>was because of his connections to the Unification Church. Next week,

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<v Speaker 1>actually we are going to be getting more into that

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<v Speaker 1>side of things. But yeah, have fun with our initial

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<v Speaker 1>reaction and much rejoicing at one of the most dogshit

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<v Speaker 1>people who was alive, who is no longer alive. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to it can happen Here. A podcaster that, for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time ever, is being recorded on an Earth that

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<v Speaker 1>I no longer have to share with that fascist rat

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<v Speaker 1>bastard Chinzhwabe and with with me, with me to celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>this occasion is Garrison Davis. Hi, Hello, and James, have

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<v Speaker 1>we actually, have we like introduced you, introduced you yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think so, No, I just pop up talking

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<v Speaker 2>about three D printed guns and people who hate butterflies.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, this is This is truly a dark day

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<v Speaker 3>for democracy. I'm saddened by the horrible loss of a

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<v Speaker 3>great leader, a hero to feminism and women, and I

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<v Speaker 3>guess a hero to those who defend war crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess before we've heard before, before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into one of the funniest things that has happened in

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<v Speaker 1>maybe twenty years, James, do you want to like talk

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<v Speaker 1>about who you are because you are now one of

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<v Speaker 1>us and I'm really excited about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm one of Yeah, I'm now a podcast. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So who I am?

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<v Speaker 2>I am a journalist, I guess, and a historian. I

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<v Speaker 2>wrote a book about the first week of the Spanish

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<v Speaker 2>Civil War, and my PhD is in the history of

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<v Speaker 2>international anti fascism, building international anti fascist alliances through physical culture,

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<v Speaker 2>which is very nerdy. But yeah, I love that stuff

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<v Speaker 2>with US and British if that had not been made

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<v Speaker 2>abundantly clear by my accent. And I live in southern California.

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<v Speaker 3>Which means this is now. This episode is a Majority

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<v Speaker 3>Commonwealth episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right, really exciting. We made it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll be doing the national anthem in a minute

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<v Speaker 2>here and we'll all just stand up.

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<v Speaker 3>So ex Prime Minister kind of he's not around anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>is he? No?

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<v Speaker 1>He is dead as fuck? So all right we should

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<v Speaker 1>I get I guess we should explain who shinzo Abe is. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if if you want a really really long account of

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<v Speaker 1>what the Japanese Liberal Democratic Party is, because they are

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<v Speaker 1>some of the worst people who've ever existed democratic Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how can this be? So the very short version of

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<v Speaker 1>this is that the Liberal Democratic Party is a party

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<v Speaker 1>that was founded by Nobusuke Kishi, who is one of

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<v Speaker 1>history's worst war criminals, like personally responsible for enslaving hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands of people in China. He's the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>basically he's the guy who was in charge of the

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<v Speaker 1>economy of the fascist war machine, like like in Japan

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<v Speaker 1>World War two. He was the guy who ran like

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of fascist puppet state called Manchuqua that was

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<v Speaker 1>run by Japan after they conquered it. Real war criminal

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<v Speaker 1>also just like personally raped a like extremely large number

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<v Speaker 1>of people. I think that like I was almost never

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<v Speaker 1>discussed when people talk about him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeahs almost like like a shockingly high flight number. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's of sex crimes. It's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he's also mean. He's involved with the Japanese

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<v Speaker 1>military sex slave program, which you will here referred to

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<v Speaker 1>as comfort women. And I refuse to call the comfort

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<v Speaker 1>women because that is a fucking horrifying euphemism for again,

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<v Speaker 1>a program of military sex slavery. Uh. He also was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the people who signed off on Unit seven

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one, which was Japan's chemical weapons testing unit where

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<v Speaker 1>they fucking like purposely invested in infected and tested chemical

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<v Speaker 1>weapons on prisoners.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's one of the worst people ever. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he got a bunch of CIA backing into backing from

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<v Speaker 1>the yakuza because the CIA is working with the yakuza

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<v Speaker 1>on early fifty and she's able basically to force all

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<v Speaker 1>of the other conservative like people to join his party,

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<v Speaker 1>and the sort of the merger of the of the

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<v Speaker 1>Liberal Party, Liberal Party and the Democratic Party is now

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<v Speaker 1>the Liberal Democratic Party. This is Kishi's party. He founded it,

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<v Speaker 1>he drags everyone else into it. He does an immense

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<v Speaker 1>amount of corruption. He tries to bring fascist m back.

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<v Speaker 1>He narrowly fails. Shinzo Abe is his grandson. Uh the

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<v Speaker 1>LDP Liberal Democratic Party, Yeah has Yeah, it sucks. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like like the way that I've been thinking about, like

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<v Speaker 1>how do you explain this to people who don't who

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<v Speaker 1>don't have like a background in like Japanese like war

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<v Speaker 1>crime stuff. Is like imagine if like one of Hitler's

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<v Speaker 1>generals had like survived World War Two and then the

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<v Speaker 1>CIA made him made him the fucking prime Minister of Germany,

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<v Speaker 1>and then.

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<v Speaker 3>And he got more fascist because people were saying mean

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<v Speaker 3>things about his grandpa. He's like, oh, I don't like

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<v Speaker 3>that they're calling him bad names. I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 3>more fascist now.

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<v Speaker 1>So like Abbe, Abbe himself, he he's carried he's been

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<v Speaker 1>carrying out a lot of the same things that that

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<v Speaker 1>Kishi was trying to do. Kishi was trying to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of restore the sort of full fascist power of the police.

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<v Speaker 1>Abe has been doing a whole bunch of shifts of

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<v Speaker 1>centralizing power in the executive and expatting the police's power

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<v Speaker 1>to just arrest whoever the fuck they want. So one

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<v Speaker 1>of one of the other things about Japan is that

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<v Speaker 1>like legally in their constitution, they can't go to war,

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<v Speaker 1>and like both Kishi and Abbe like this is like

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<v Speaker 1>they're big fucking things that they want. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>fully re armed Japan. They want Japan to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to go to war because they want to do the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking empire again. And you know, so this is like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Abe has been doing that. He also the thing he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably most famous for in terms of like the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>people think he's bad because he is he's like just

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<v Speaker 1>actually a monster. Is he's just like a like unfathomable

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<v Speaker 1>degree of war crimes denial, like he pulled. So Japan

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineties had admitted that they fucking kidnap enslaved

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<v Speaker 1>like an enormous number of people from of people from Korea,

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<v Speaker 1>people from China, and I think they also did they

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<v Speaker 1>did in the Philippines and Indonesia too, although there's less

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<v Speaker 1>sort of coverage of that, and like turn them into

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<v Speaker 1>military sex slaves, did things to them that are like

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking unspeakable And so the Japanese government the nineties

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<v Speaker 1>had admitted they did this and apologized for it, and

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<v Speaker 1>Abe was like, no, fuck that, that's that's wrong. He's

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<v Speaker 1>also a part of this group called Nipon Kagai, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like a fascist group. And okay, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is according to a US congressional report,

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<v Speaker 1>what they believe, quote Japan should be applauded for liberating

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<v Speaker 1>much of East Asia from western colonial powers, that the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty six nineteen forty eight Tokyo War crimes tribunals

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<v Speaker 1>were illegitimate, and that the killings by Japanese troops through

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen thirty seven Nanjing massacre were exaggerated or fabricated.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy. They also openly yeah, yeah, yeah, they also

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<v Speaker 1>so they're nudging denialists there there, they're sex slave denihilists.

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<v Speaker 1>They openly call for the restoration of the monarchy and

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<v Speaker 1>the institution of Shinto as a state religion. Abbe like

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<v Speaker 1>abi like has continuously said that uh, the sex slaves

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<v Speaker 1>like did it, We're like did where they're voluntarily does

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<v Speaker 1>another thing?

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<v Speaker 3>But but but but Hillary Clinton just tweeted that was

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<v Speaker 3>a champion of democracy and a firm believer that no economy, society,

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<v Speaker 3>or country can achieve its full potential if you leave

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<v Speaker 3>women behind.

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<v Speaker 1>Why you know, to be fair, to be fair, to

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<v Speaker 1>be fair. Both Abbe and No she did, in fact

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<v Speaker 1>believe in using women to fuel the economy, just not

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<v Speaker 1>in that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He Also there's there's another thing that so probably the

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<v Speaker 1>most like famous, most controversial thing was. So there's the

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<v Speaker 1>shrine called the Yasukuni Shrine, which is is the shrine

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<v Speaker 1>that's dedicated to soldiers who like died serving the Japanese

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<v Speaker 1>emperor and in in this so there's this thing called

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<v Speaker 1>the Book of Souls that has like lists of names,

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<v Speaker 1>right of just like the people who died, and one

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and sixty eight of the people who were of

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<v Speaker 1>the people in that book are people who were convicted

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<v Speaker 1>of war crimes. And there are also fourteen Class A

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<v Speaker 1>war criminals who either died or were executed who are

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<v Speaker 1>considered martyrs. There and Abbe fucking like visited there and

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<v Speaker 1>like braid and shit, and this pissed off everyone. This

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<v Speaker 1>is like, there are lots of people who have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>mad at me already for celebrating Abbe's death. And my

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<v Speaker 1>official line on this is, if Abbe didn't want me

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate his fucking death, maybe he shouldn't have celebrated

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<v Speaker 1>the lives of people who killed my fucking family. So

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<v Speaker 1>fuck them. Yeah, so he's not a great dude. He

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<v Speaker 1>is real pack and automatic dude. So the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>we should mention too before we go into sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like the details of the shooting is that there is

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<v Speaker 1>an election. Actually, by by the time this episode drops,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the election will have happened where there is

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<v Speaker 1>a real chance that the Liberal Democratic Party is going

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of like just fucking sweep it. Because the

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<v Speaker 1>Liberal Democratic Party immediately starts to blame me the left

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<v Speaker 1>for this. There's a whole bunch of, i mean, just

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely horrifying stuff where they're blaming Korean people who live

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<v Speaker 1>in uh, live in Japan, which, if you know anything

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<v Speaker 1>about Japanese history, when that stuff starts happening, like in

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<v Speaker 1>ninte twenty three after the Canto earthquake, a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people just started blaming Koreans for the whole thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>they fucking literally exterminated almost the entire Korean population in

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<v Speaker 1>several major Japanese cities. And so this stuff is very scary. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible that this is going to set off like

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible right wing lursy Japanese politics, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>chance that this could be the actual thing that like

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<v Speaker 1>full on triggers Japan like re arming and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going back into sort of just being a pure fascist empire.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is not Yeah, that part is really bad.

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<v Speaker 3>The motivation for the assassination is still, at least at

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<v Speaker 3>time of recording, is still slightly unclear, very unclear. According

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<v Speaker 3>according to some politicians and news media, we do know

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<v Speaker 3>the suspect is Hdeo Kajima, so that you can you

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<v Speaker 3>can infer a little bit based on So yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 3>there's like French politicians and a Greek news channel who

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<v Speaker 3>are using pictures of video developer Hideo Kajima and passing

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<v Speaker 3>them off as the shooting suspect, which is really funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Pictures of Kajima like inside like a Russian like communist

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<v Speaker 3>hat fucking thing, pictures of him wearing a joker shirt

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<v Speaker 3>and standing in front of a Jakobara picture, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>using this as proof that it's by a left wing

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<v Speaker 3>terrorist and it's actually video game developer Kajima's.

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<v Speaker 1>So away, like, I guess what we know about the

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<v Speaker 1>actual shooter. We don't know that much. Is a forty

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<v Speaker 1>two year old guy who was a a former veteran

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<v Speaker 1>of the of the the Japanese Self Defense Force. He was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a Navy guy, which I guess partially explains

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<v Speaker 1>why he can shoot a gun. But yeah, the details

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<v Speaker 1>are really murky. What we've got at time of recording

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<v Speaker 1>is the Japanese police saying that it wasn't because of

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<v Speaker 1>a political thing, and that it was because of a

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<v Speaker 1>group that he was that Abe was a member of.

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<v Speaker 1>Who the fuck knows what that means. That can mean

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<v Speaker 1>any number of things. I'm not going to speculate live

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<v Speaker 1>on here because I I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but also, it was extremely funny and we should

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<v Speaker 3>we should talk about the weapon that was This is why.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the reasons why it's extremely funny

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<v Speaker 1>and we should.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm probably gonna hand this over to James because James

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<v Speaker 3>is a bit a bit more of an expert in

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<v Speaker 3>this type of uh di i Y weaponry.

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<v Speaker 1>So what great, What the fuck is going off with

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<v Speaker 1>this homemade gun? Yeah? This ship? Yeah, this ship is

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<v Speaker 1>fucking this ship. This is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's extremely funny. It's extremely funny that all these

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<v Speaker 2>people with fifty thousands followers on Twitter who quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>do ocean like immediately label this is a three D

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<v Speaker 2>printed gun, which it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It does not printed. This gun is being held together

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<v Speaker 1>with duct tape like that is that that is the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weapon that we're dealing with you. This is

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<v Speaker 1>this is a homemade gun, like held together with fucking

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<v Speaker 1>duct tape. It is extremely It is like he got

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<v Speaker 1>blown up by an electric blunderbuss.

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<v Speaker 3>It is. Yeah, it's like there could very well be

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<v Speaker 3>three D printed parts in like around it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not it's not looking it's it's it's not

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<v Speaker 3>like it's not like an f juicy United or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's a weird like electronic pipe duct taped together

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<v Speaker 3>shot gun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I think perhaps if people don't understand, we

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<v Speaker 2>should like break down how fire around work broadly and

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<v Speaker 2>then how this one works specifically. Right, So, like, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's no reason why you should be familiar with this,

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<v Speaker 2>but like you need something to explode, something to make

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<v Speaker 2>it explode, and something to go out the end, and

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<v Speaker 2>a way to make sure it only goes in one direction. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So what this character has done is seemingly it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a blunderbuss or a musket in that it

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be like muzzle loaded from the front and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at it now and it really is just

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<v Speaker 2>covered in duct tape. I tweeted a picture of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's agay. Yeah, this shit is is very old fashioned.

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<v Speaker 2>He seems to have made his own powder too, like

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<v Speaker 2>it was very very smoky, which you can do. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to tell you how to do it, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's the thing that is possible. And so essentially from

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm seeing here, it looks like it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>piezo electric ignition which then ignites this homemade powder that

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<v Speaker 2>he had, and then he's put something in a shotgun,

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<v Speaker 2>means it doesn't have fling right, so it doesn't spin

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<v Speaker 2>on the projectile. So he's basically got two pipes, a

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<v Speaker 2>Pizzo electric igniter, some homemade powder, and then he could

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<v Speaker 2>have put nails in there. He could have put a

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<v Speaker 2>cast lead ball, anything, bolts.

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<v Speaker 3>And this wasn't the only homemade weapon he had. The

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<v Speaker 3>police raided his house, he had a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>supplies that looks it looks out of like it looks

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<v Speaker 3>like it's out of like fallout or something. It is

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<v Speaker 3>like there was one like Blunderbust that had nine different

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<v Speaker 3>barrels all duct taped together. It's like exposed wiring, exposed

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<v Speaker 3>circuit boards, like it's it's like it's extremely janky.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like I'm not entirely sure that the nine

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<v Speaker 2>barrel one, the central barrel isn't touched by the by

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<v Speaker 2>the structural duct tape, and I'm not sure that it

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have moved in one direction or the other.

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<v Speaker 1>When he fired it.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, yeah, I think that's a there's like a yoga

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<v Speaker 2>I can't see what he's put something on that. He's

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<v Speaker 2>made a butt stock with that one, so like he

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<v Speaker 2>can shoulder it, I guess. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>that's like a piece of tire or what. But yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not a precision weapon wooden boards.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like some type of like reflect it looks almost

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<v Speaker 3>like a smartphone's attached to some of the wiring or

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<v Speaker 3>there's something reflective screen that looks like it's like like

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<v Speaker 3>an electronic control box, which could could just be like

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<v Speaker 3>an old smartphone or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wondered if he could, because that's what you

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<v Speaker 2>use for for an improvised explosive device, right, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>it's a cell phone to actuate it, So it could

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<v Speaker 2>be maybe he had a plan to just put it

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<v Speaker 2>near where are they was going to be and then call.

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<v Speaker 1>It and then have it.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be well, I mean, no, this is a

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<v Speaker 3>this is a much better It has the stock, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing I'm guessing being to hold it because otherwise

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<v Speaker 3>there's no reason to put the buttstock there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but who knows, Like this guy's operating on a

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<v Speaker 1>different level.

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<v Speaker 3>We have no way to what he was thinking, at

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<v Speaker 3>least at least at least not at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>What he was thinking was I want to kill shinzo

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<v Speaker 2>Abbe with my pipes and planks.

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<v Speaker 1>He did it. He's exactly whatever you think of him.

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<v Speaker 1>This man did successfully kill shinzo Abbey with a gun

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<v Speaker 1>held together by duct tape. It's yeah, pretty impressive, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I think the everything about this is kind of impressive,

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<v Speaker 1>is a he so so he there were there were

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<v Speaker 1>two barrels on it that each fired, and he he

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<v Speaker 1>managed to hit him from like a pretty good distance away.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we don't have there's there's no video of that directly,

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<v Speaker 1>well at least not that's out yet that like directly

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<v Speaker 1>shows the shooter. But we have a lot of video

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<v Speaker 1>because Abbe is giving a speech, right, so we have

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of video of like filming Abbe and it's

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<v Speaker 1>and because of where it is coming from off screen,

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<v Speaker 1>like that was a pretty good distance. And as best

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell, he only hit Abe. I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think. I haven't seen any reports of anyone else

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<v Speaker 1>getting hit, So I yeah, impressive.

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<v Speaker 3>That is Actually that is actually kind of slightly surprising.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was. There was no one else hit. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like he just the guy he was. That is that

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<v Speaker 1>is genuinely pretty rare and assassinated.

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<v Speaker 3>But like like basically like a homemade blunderbust cannon was

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<v Speaker 3>like surprisingly surprisingly controlled, it accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've just found a picture of it with the

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<v Speaker 2>Cyberpunk twenty twenty seventy seven logo underneath it, which is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty great.

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<v Speaker 1>Rules, yeah, it does.

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<v Speaker 2>Rule. Yeah, he did manage to cause it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>just put like a large, massive lead ball in it,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, and yeah whatever, because I don't think it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was one thing. So one of

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing I can say about the the that

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<v Speaker 1>you guess to me know about the EMMO was that

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<v Speaker 1>like there there were like a bunch of like they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're one of the bunch of the reports about the

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<v Speaker 1>injuries that he suffered. We're talking about like he got

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<v Speaker 1>hit in the back, but there were also holes in

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<v Speaker 1>his neck, So my guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was there was a lot of there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of blood from a lot of different places.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess it wasn't one thing then, But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Everything that's kind of interesting about this is

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<v Speaker 1>like the extent to which well, okay, so like he

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<v Speaker 1>was like ab was like very clearly dead. Like people

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<v Speaker 1>people had like reported him at the scene as having

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<v Speaker 1>no vitals and they were like, yeah, his heart stopped

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<v Speaker 1>and they had like opt out him to like what Tokyo, Yeah, Tokyo.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Japanese government did a very good job of

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<v Speaker 1>making sure the press had like no information, and so

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<v Speaker 1>there was just like there was like many many many

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<v Speaker 1>hours where they were like pretending that he wasn't dead

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<v Speaker 1>and like wouldn't confirm that he was dead. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>like this, this man is clearly dead as shit, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he has gotten blown up by a blunderbuss like in

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<v Speaker 1>the back. His neck's gone. He's like, I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not not gone, like his neck. His neck's been shot,

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<v Speaker 1>his heart has stopped, and they just sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>keep it there for for a pretty impressively long wi time.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the other thing. We know very little about

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<v Speaker 1>what happened and why the press has been keeping the

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<v Speaker 1>government's been keeping a very tight lid on information about

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<v Speaker 1>the shooting so far. Are Yeah, I guess we want

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<v Speaker 1>to pivot into the gun control side of this, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So the I mean like there was a mayor

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<v Speaker 3>shot a few years ago, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven a Yaki is a guy shot the mayor of Nagasaki,

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<v Speaker 1>so like, and like there's a there's been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people, like journalists, people who are like supposedly japan

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<v Speaker 1>experts who are like, oh, this is really rare in

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese culture. Is like, no, it's not. People get assassinated,

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<v Speaker 1>like like the Japan has a very low rate of

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<v Speaker 1>gun violence, but oh that gun violence. The number of

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<v Speaker 1>politicians got to get assassinated is like unbelievably high. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean like that there have been there

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<v Speaker 1>have been a lot of I mean like Abe's like

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<v Speaker 1>grandfather Wasishi like got stabbed right after we left office,

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<v Speaker 1>like and he only didn't die because the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>stabbed him claimed that he wasn't trying to kill him,

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<v Speaker 1>he was just stabbing him, which is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>weirdest things I've had heard. I don't know, I I

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<v Speaker 1>suspect some of yakaza bullshit was going on there, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I Japan has assassinations. It there's there's this weird

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<v Speaker 1>thing where people think Japan is this place that's like

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<v Speaker 1>like no violence happens, like it's a completely orderly society.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like all this all this like weird stuff fas Japan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like like this, this is a country like this,

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<v Speaker 1>This is a country where people like like even in

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<v Speaker 1>like the seventies and like if you through the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>people would charge like RB convoys with sticks and like

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<v Speaker 1>fight them. Like this is a country that like like

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<v Speaker 1>people they have a sort of ape shit switch that.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like yeah, they have their fair share of like

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<v Speaker 3>cults that do acts of violence like this, fair share

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<v Speaker 3>of political streamists that do violence like this, and like

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<v Speaker 3>everywhere else in like like everywhere else in the world,

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<v Speaker 3>stuff just happens sometimes. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it is interesting that like Japan has

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<v Speaker 2>extremely strict gun control, right, like licenses tests, background checks,

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<v Speaker 2>prohibitions of most people learning and carrying. But like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of interesting that this is more of a like

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<v Speaker 2>a First Amendment question, I guess in American terms, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're on the internet enough, I'm sure it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like this person has just googled how to make gun

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<v Speaker 2>and like this is what came up. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's kind of fascinating that that that this person

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<v Speaker 2>has been like aside from their possible connection to any

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<v Speaker 2>criminal networks, but like, I know the Yakiza were selling

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<v Speaker 2>guns to people in me and mar pretty recently, so

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<v Speaker 2>they have access to this pace.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And like and the mayor who got whacked by

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<v Speaker 1>yakrazy guy, Like if the Orkisa is going to do

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know if the is going to do

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<v Speaker 1>a killing like they they like they they have access

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<v Speaker 1>to weapon.

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<v Speaker 4>They would use a real gun the Arctic together, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>So like probably, but also so like I wouldn't completely

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<v Speaker 4>rule it out because I wouldn't rule out them just

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<v Speaker 4>finding some guy and doing this thing the FBI does

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like, hey, you're gonna go do an attack now,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it wouldn't It wouldn't surprise me if that, if

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<v Speaker 4>if they did that, I was like a plusile an

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<v Speaker 4>ideally thing, but like we don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I still don't think we can rule out that HEADA.

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<v Speaker 3>Kajima is the mastermind behind this.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's all I know right is it's it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a ployee to plug his next game.

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<v Speaker 3>Just have to add a few like nonsense names to

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<v Speaker 3>all the people involved, like blunderbustmen, and then it's just

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's easy, easy.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's fascinating that this person was seemingly like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe had other plans or had tried several other like

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 2>craft firearms, and settled on this one. But yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>have access to a lot of pipes, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you guys see the yakas a guy who was

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<v Speaker 2>arms dealing to me and mar No no oh for

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<v Speaker 2>fucking wild So he was like extensively stung by the Feds.

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<v Speaker 1>So this guy, he was Yakaza, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was part of it like an ongoing sting operation for

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<v Speaker 2>like several years where he was selling like basically like

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<v Speaker 2>trading guns for drugs, trading guns to buy drugs. He

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<v Speaker 2>was selling to a couple of groups in Me and MA.

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<v Speaker 2>He was two groups in like the Tamil region and

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of other people and he uh, he was

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<v Speaker 2>at least one of the people he thought was a

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<v Speaker 2>buyer was actually a FED. And they've captured all of

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<v Speaker 2>these amazing conversations where they call the guns like cake

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<v Speaker 2>and ice cream and like one of the one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things in the in the criminal could play. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a picture of him just with like a law like

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<v Speaker 2>an anti tank weapon and he's just like if you

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<v Speaker 2>get like the V sign and he's wearing these like

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<v Speaker 2>yellow aviators and a leather jacket. Like the way they

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<v Speaker 2>arrested him was at a steakhouse I think either in

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<v Speaker 2>New York or New Jersey, but like they they lured

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<v Speaker 2>him into a steakhouse meeting and then he got busted

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<v Speaker 2>by the FED. But yeah, these guys were trafficking like

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<v Speaker 2>serious stuff like surface to M missiles and things. They

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<v Speaker 2>have access to some pretty heavy equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a that's a pretty old like the OAS

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<v Speaker 1>has been sort of like I don't know how you

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<v Speaker 1>describe it, like a kind of like pera arm of

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<v Speaker 1>the Japanese state in a lot of ways for a

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<v Speaker 1>very very long time, Like there are there have been

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<v Speaker 1>like Yakasa people with basically special forces training. They they

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<v Speaker 1>at one point like kidnapped and killed the Empress of

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<v Speaker 1>Korea as part of like a thing to like justify

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<v Speaker 1>starting a war. So they are they're very well hooked up.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, It's still unclear to me because like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the obviously everything again, like they're the the LDP

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot of Yakuza connections because kind of okay,

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<v Speaker 1>partially kind of everything is connections, but a partially also

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<v Speaker 1>because the Deacosa were like a sort of founding like

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<v Speaker 1>political block of the LDP in the first place. So

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<v Speaker 1>who knows, Like LDP people have gotten like attacked by

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<v Speaker 1>people before. It could be that, it could be something else.

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<v Speaker 1>We sort of just don't know yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's nothing identifying this guy, Like I'm just looking

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<v Speaker 2>at a picture of him and there's nothing particularly sort

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<v Speaker 2>of identifying his clothing or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess, I guess that's the death of Shinzo

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Hobby extremely funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Critical support to Hideo Kajima and all of the other

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<v Speaker 3>freedom fighters.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess I guess we could talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about the international response to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because people have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>What's ethnic. Yeah, I mean, like so like all the

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Americans are sorry of like are doing the all American

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>liberals that sort of doing like, oh my god, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a good guy. It's like, no, it wasn't. This

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 1>guy was a monster. Okay. I I will say this,

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<v Speaker 1>Both the Chinese and the Korean embassies are being surprisingly

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<v Speaker 1>diplomatic about it, as in, no one they haven't no

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:29.639
<v Speaker 1>one has actively insulted him yet social media wise.

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<v Speaker 3>Politically, that's a good move for like inter country relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but like I okay, like Japanese relationships with Korea.

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<v Speaker 1>South Korea are well and North Korea are really bad,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of the reason why they're really bad

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<v Speaker 1>is specifically because of Changzawabe and because of all of

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>his bullshit. But they're not gonna like a rubb it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not clear to me that they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have done this if this had happened in like the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand tens, like instink, these guys really hate each other. Yeah,

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>there's been some sort of like people don't know, people

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to do a Taiwan angle on this because Abbey

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>is like a Taiwan supporter, But I don't. I don't

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>think there's actually that much. People want this to have

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>much more geopolitical like significance than it probably actually will. Yeah, yeah,

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.640
<v Speaker 1>well it's in the meantime. Yeah, fascist is dead. That's

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 1>always funny.

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<v Speaker 3>It happened, Uh yeah, it did in fact happen here. Well,

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 3>it happened over there.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what I mean, it could happen here.

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<v Speaker 1>Sta statistically, we are we are about to do based

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<v Speaker 1>on Yeah, you wouldn't need.

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<v Speaker 2>To resort to deductate model in America.

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<v Speaker 3>No, with the amount of firearms here, it is kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a little it is sometimes a little surprising how

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 3>little stuff like this actually happens. There's obviously a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of work that goes into like preventing it, but but

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<v Speaker 3>still sometimes it's kind of it's kind of shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, like I think, I think. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the last twenty years, I think more

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Japanese politicians have been assassinated American politicians. Like I'm trying,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of an American politician.

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<v Speaker 3>Because weird, because they is a lot more American politicians

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of guns.

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<v Speaker 1>They they they killed, they killed when they went after

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<v Speaker 1>Gabby Giffords. They killed someone, I think, but yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of anyone else other than.

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<v Speaker 2>That, not in recent memory. The guy who shot Reagan

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<v Speaker 2>is now touring.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he didn't even kill him. That's not even assassination.

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>That's just an assassination attempt, like a very botched to one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, crossover between John Hinckley and Hideo Kajima's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>That will be the game.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna keep referring to the suspect as Hideo Kajima.

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<v Speaker 2>It's worth noting that, like he did have armed guards,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're armed. God's present that you can see their

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 2>guns in health serious is they take down the person

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 2>who shot him, but they they were not on their

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<v Speaker 2>A game that day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that you can see in the video. There's like

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<v Speaker 1>one of the guys is I think, trying to like

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<v Speaker 1>get a bulletproof briefcase in between Abe and the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't work. It just it just doesn't. It

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<v Speaker 1>just fails completely.

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<v Speaker 3>Its one job they Yeah, like the operation meat Shield,

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 3>they weren't just on they weren't just not on their

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<v Speaker 3>A game.

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<v Speaker 1>They completely failed at their own Yeah, it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>the guy even tried to run away. He just like

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<v Speaker 1>stood there and got arrested. Yeah. Yeah, he did not

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<v Speaker 1>really put much of it, did not put up much

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<v Speaker 1>of a fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah he No, he didn't. I think, Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>he went down pretty fast. I guess he went with

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<v Speaker 2>like this smaller game maybe to conceal it, because it

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>looks like he was pretty close.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is that is very likely. Well, a very

0:30:56.000 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 3>dark day for democracy, dark day for feminism, as Hillary

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 3>Clinton said, Uh anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Luckily they have ram and Manuel as a bastard

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 2>to pan to come to them and as.

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<v Speaker 1>Difficult the the l d P are the only people

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<v Speaker 1>on earth who does who actually deserve Rama Manual. So look,

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<v Speaker 1>if you, if you, if if you didn't want to

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>have to deal with Rama Manual, you should have taken

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<v Speaker 1>all that money. This is this is this is now

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<v Speaker 1>their curse.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm sure we'll talk more about these types of

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<v Speaker 3>home made weapons and all that kind of stuff in

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<v Speaker 3>the future, because it is it is interesting, and you

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<v Speaker 3>know places where places where like actual firearms are hard

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 3>are harder to get. We're seeing more and more ship

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<v Speaker 3>like this popping up. Yeah, yeah, and that that will

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<v Speaker 3>definitely be worth be worth getting into along with three

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<v Speaker 3>D printed weapons. All right, anything else to add or

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<v Speaker 3>does that?

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Does it? Does that?

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think that's a wrap. All right.

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