Speaker 1: Welcome to take it Happened here a podcast that is
Speaker 1: not happening this week because we are on vacation, so
Speaker 1: instead of normal episodes, you are getting this. And this
Speaker 1: is our immediate reaction to the assassination of Shinzo Abbe,
Speaker 1: which has turned out to be maybe the most successful
Speaker 1: modern political assassination, at least, at the very least the
Speaker 1: most successful modern political assassination that wasn't carried out with
Speaker 1: the CIA. Now, one thing to keep in mind is
Speaker 1: we recorded this episode before it was formerly known that
Speaker 1: the reason that Abe was killed by the electric blunderbuss
Speaker 1: was because of his connections to the Unification Church. Next week,
Speaker 1: actually we are going to be getting more into that
Speaker 1: side of things. But yeah, have fun with our initial
Speaker 1: reaction and much rejoicing at one of the most dogshit
Speaker 1: people who was alive, who is no longer alive. Welcome
Speaker 1: to it can happen Here. A podcaster that, for the
Speaker 1: first time ever, is being recorded on an Earth that
Speaker 1: I no longer have to share with that fascist rat
Speaker 1: bastard Chinzhwabe and with with me, with me to celebrate
Speaker 1: this occasion is Garrison Davis. Hi, Hello, and James, have
Speaker 1: we actually, have we like introduced you, introduced you yet.
Speaker 2: I didn't think so, No, I just pop up talking
Speaker 2: about three D printed guns and people who hate butterflies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is This is truly a dark day
Speaker 3: for democracy. I'm saddened by the horrible loss of a
Speaker 3: great leader, a hero to feminism and women, and I
Speaker 3: guess a hero to those who defend war crimes.
Speaker 1: So I guess before we've heard before, before we get
Speaker 1: into one of the funniest things that has happened in
Speaker 1: maybe twenty years, James, do you want to like talk
Speaker 1: about who you are because you are now one of
Speaker 1: us and I'm really excited about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm one of Yeah, I'm now a podcast. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So who I am?
Speaker 2: I am a journalist, I guess, and a historian. I
Speaker 2: wrote a book about the first week of the Spanish
Speaker 2: Civil War, and my PhD is in the history of
Speaker 2: international anti fascism, building international anti fascist alliances through physical culture,
Speaker 2: which is very nerdy. But yeah, I love that stuff
Speaker 2: with US and British if that had not been made
Speaker 2: abundantly clear by my accent. And I live in southern California.
Speaker 3: Which means this is now. This episode is a Majority
Speaker 3: Commonwealth episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, really exciting. We made it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be doing the national anthem in a minute
Speaker 2: here and we'll all just stand up.
Speaker 3: So ex Prime Minister kind of he's not around anymore,
Speaker 3: is he? No?
Speaker 1: He is dead as fuck? So all right we should
Speaker 1: I get I guess we should explain who shinzo Abe is. Okay,
Speaker 1: if if you want a really really long account of
Speaker 1: what the Japanese Liberal Democratic Party is, because they are
Speaker 1: some of the worst people who've ever existed democratic Yeah,
Speaker 1: how can this be? So the very short version of
Speaker 1: this is that the Liberal Democratic Party is a party
Speaker 1: that was founded by Nobusuke Kishi, who is one of
Speaker 1: history's worst war criminals, like personally responsible for enslaving hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousands of people in China. He's the guy who
Speaker 1: basically he's the guy who was in charge of the
Speaker 1: economy of the fascist war machine, like like in Japan
Speaker 1: World War two. He was the guy who ran like
Speaker 1: the sort of fascist puppet state called Manchuqua that was
Speaker 1: run by Japan after they conquered it. Real war criminal
Speaker 1: also just like personally raped a like extremely large number
Speaker 1: of people. I think that like I was almost never
Speaker 1: discussed when people talk about him.
Speaker 3: Yeahs almost like like a shockingly high flight number. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's of sex crimes. It's wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's also mean. He's involved with the Japanese
Speaker 1: military sex slave program, which you will here referred to
Speaker 1: as comfort women. And I refuse to call the comfort
Speaker 1: women because that is a fucking horrifying euphemism for again,
Speaker 1: a program of military sex slavery. Uh. He also was
Speaker 1: one of the people who signed off on Unit seven
Speaker 1: thirty one, which was Japan's chemical weapons testing unit where
Speaker 1: they fucking like purposely invested in infected and tested chemical
Speaker 1: weapons on prisoners.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's one of the worst people ever. And then
Speaker 1: he got a bunch of CIA backing into backing from
Speaker 1: the yakuza because the CIA is working with the yakuza
Speaker 1: on early fifty and she's able basically to force all
Speaker 1: of the other conservative like people to join his party,
Speaker 1: and the sort of the merger of the of the
Speaker 1: Liberal Party, Liberal Party and the Democratic Party is now
Speaker 1: the Liberal Democratic Party. This is Kishi's party. He founded it,
Speaker 1: he drags everyone else into it. He does an immense
Speaker 1: amount of corruption. He tries to bring fascist m back.
Speaker 1: He narrowly fails. Shinzo Abe is his grandson. Uh the
Speaker 1: LDP Liberal Democratic Party, Yeah has Yeah, it sucks. It's
Speaker 1: like like the way that I've been thinking about, like
Speaker 1: how do you explain this to people who don't who
Speaker 1: don't have like a background in like Japanese like war
Speaker 1: crime stuff. Is like imagine if like one of Hitler's
Speaker 1: generals had like survived World War Two and then the
Speaker 1: CIA made him made him the fucking prime Minister of Germany,
Speaker 1: and then.
Speaker 3: And he got more fascist because people were saying mean
Speaker 3: things about his grandpa. He's like, oh, I don't like
Speaker 3: that they're calling him bad names. I'm going to get
Speaker 3: more fascist now.
Speaker 1: So like Abbe, Abbe himself, he he's carried he's been
Speaker 1: carrying out a lot of the same things that that
Speaker 1: Kishi was trying to do. Kishi was trying to sort
Speaker 1: of restore the sort of full fascist power of the police.
Speaker 1: Abe has been doing a whole bunch of shifts of
Speaker 1: centralizing power in the executive and expatting the police's power
Speaker 1: to just arrest whoever the fuck they want. So one
Speaker 1: of one of the other things about Japan is that
Speaker 1: like legally in their constitution, they can't go to war,
Speaker 1: and like both Kishi and Abbe like this is like
Speaker 1: they're big fucking things that they want. They want to
Speaker 1: fully re armed Japan. They want Japan to be able
Speaker 1: to go to war because they want to do the
Speaker 1: fucking empire again. And you know, so this is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Abe has been doing that. He also the thing he's
Speaker 1: probably most famous for in terms of like the reasons
Speaker 1: people think he's bad because he is he's like just
Speaker 1: actually a monster. Is he's just like a like unfathomable
Speaker 1: degree of war crimes denial, like he pulled. So Japan
Speaker 1: in the nineties had admitted that they fucking kidnap enslaved
Speaker 1: like an enormous number of people from of people from Korea,
Speaker 1: people from China, and I think they also did they
Speaker 1: did in the Philippines and Indonesia too, although there's less
Speaker 1: sort of coverage of that, and like turn them into
Speaker 1: military sex slaves, did things to them that are like
Speaker 1: a fucking unspeakable And so the Japanese government the nineties
Speaker 1: had admitted they did this and apologized for it, and
Speaker 1: Abe was like, no, fuck that, that's that's wrong. He's
Speaker 1: also a part of this group called Nipon Kagai, which
Speaker 1: is like a fascist group. And okay, so this is
Speaker 1: this is this is according to a US congressional report,
Speaker 1: what they believe, quote Japan should be applauded for liberating
Speaker 1: much of East Asia from western colonial powers, that the
Speaker 1: nineteen forty six nineteen forty eight Tokyo War crimes tribunals
Speaker 1: were illegitimate, and that the killings by Japanese troops through
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirty seven Nanjing massacre were exaggerated or fabricated.
Speaker 1: Oh boy. They also openly yeah, yeah, yeah, they also
Speaker 1: so they're nudging denialists there there, they're sex slave denihilists.
Speaker 1: They openly call for the restoration of the monarchy and
Speaker 1: the institution of Shinto as a state religion. Abbe like
Speaker 1: abi like has continuously said that uh, the sex slaves
Speaker 1: like did it, We're like did where they're voluntarily does
Speaker 1: another thing?
Speaker 3: But but but but Hillary Clinton just tweeted that was
Speaker 3: a champion of democracy and a firm believer that no economy, society,
Speaker 3: or country can achieve its full potential if you leave
Speaker 3: women behind.
Speaker 1: Why you know, to be fair, to be fair, to
Speaker 1: be fair. Both Abbe and No she did, in fact
Speaker 1: believe in using women to fuel the economy, just not
Speaker 1: in that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He Also there's there's another thing that so probably the
Speaker 1: most like famous, most controversial thing was. So there's the
Speaker 1: shrine called the Yasukuni Shrine, which is is the shrine
Speaker 1: that's dedicated to soldiers who like died serving the Japanese
Speaker 1: emperor and in in this so there's this thing called
Speaker 1: the Book of Souls that has like lists of names,
Speaker 1: right of just like the people who died, and one
Speaker 1: thousand and sixty eight of the people who were of
Speaker 1: the people in that book are people who were convicted
Speaker 1: of war crimes. And there are also fourteen Class A
Speaker 1: war criminals who either died or were executed who are
Speaker 1: considered martyrs. There and Abbe fucking like visited there and
Speaker 1: like braid and shit, and this pissed off everyone. This
Speaker 1: is like, there are lots of people who have gotten
Speaker 1: mad at me already for celebrating Abbe's death. And my
Speaker 1: official line on this is, if Abbe didn't want me
Speaker 1: to celebrate his fucking death, maybe he shouldn't have celebrated
Speaker 1: the lives of people who killed my fucking family. So
Speaker 1: fuck them. Yeah, so he's not a great dude. He
Speaker 1: is real pack and automatic dude. So the other thing
Speaker 1: we should mention too before we go into sort of
Speaker 1: like the details of the shooting is that there is
Speaker 1: an election. Actually, by by the time this episode drops,
Speaker 1: I think the election will have happened where there is
Speaker 1: a real chance that the Liberal Democratic Party is going
Speaker 1: to sort of like just fucking sweep it. Because the
Speaker 1: Liberal Democratic Party immediately starts to blame me the left
Speaker 1: for this. There's a whole bunch of, i mean, just
Speaker 1: absolutely horrifying stuff where they're blaming Korean people who live
Speaker 1: in uh, live in Japan, which, if you know anything
Speaker 1: about Japanese history, when that stuff starts happening, like in
Speaker 1: ninte twenty three after the Canto earthquake, a bunch of
Speaker 1: people just started blaming Koreans for the whole thing, and
Speaker 1: they fucking literally exterminated almost the entire Korean population in
Speaker 1: several major Japanese cities. And so this stuff is very scary. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's possible that this is going to set off like
Speaker 1: an incredible right wing lursy Japanese politics, and there's a
Speaker 1: chance that this could be the actual thing that like
Speaker 1: full on triggers Japan like re arming and you know,
Speaker 1: going back into sort of just being a pure fascist empire.
Speaker 1: So this is not Yeah, that part is really bad.
Speaker 3: The motivation for the assassination is still, at least at
Speaker 3: time of recording, is still slightly unclear, very unclear. According
Speaker 3: according to some politicians and news media, we do know
Speaker 3: the suspect is Hdeo Kajima, so that you can you
Speaker 3: can infer a little bit based on So yeah, there's
Speaker 3: there's like French politicians and a Greek news channel who
Speaker 3: are using pictures of video developer Hideo Kajima and passing
Speaker 3: them off as the shooting suspect, which is really funny.
Speaker 3: Pictures of Kajima like inside like a Russian like communist
Speaker 3: hat fucking thing, pictures of him wearing a joker shirt
Speaker 3: and standing in front of a Jakobara picture, and they're
Speaker 3: using this as proof that it's by a left wing
Speaker 3: terrorist and it's actually video game developer Kajima's.
Speaker 1: So away, like, I guess what we know about the
Speaker 1: actual shooter. We don't know that much. Is a forty
Speaker 1: two year old guy who was a a former veteran
Speaker 1: of the of the the Japanese Self Defense Force. He was.
Speaker 1: He was a Navy guy, which I guess partially explains
Speaker 1: why he can shoot a gun. But yeah, the details
Speaker 1: are really murky. What we've got at time of recording
Speaker 1: is the Japanese police saying that it wasn't because of
Speaker 1: a political thing, and that it was because of a
Speaker 1: group that he was that Abe was a member of.
Speaker 1: Who the fuck knows what that means. That can mean
Speaker 1: any number of things. I'm not going to speculate live
Speaker 1: on here because I I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also, it was extremely funny and we should
Speaker 3: we should talk about the weapon that was This is why.
Speaker 1: This is one of the reasons why it's extremely funny
Speaker 1: and we should.
Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna hand this over to James because James
Speaker 3: is a bit a bit more of an expert in
Speaker 3: this type of uh di i Y weaponry.
Speaker 1: So what great, What the fuck is going off with
Speaker 1: this homemade gun? Yeah? This ship? Yeah, this ship is
Speaker 1: fucking this ship. This is crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's extremely funny. It's extremely funny that all these
Speaker 2: people with fifty thousands followers on Twitter who quote unquote
Speaker 2: do ocean like immediately label this is a three D
Speaker 2: printed gun, which it's not.
Speaker 1: It does not printed. This gun is being held together
Speaker 1: with duct tape like that is that that is the
Speaker 1: kind of weapon that we're dealing with you. This is
Speaker 1: this is a homemade gun, like held together with fucking
Speaker 1: duct tape. It is extremely It is like he got
Speaker 1: blown up by an electric blunderbuss.
Speaker 3: It is. Yeah, it's like there could very well be
Speaker 3: three D printed parts in like around it.
Speaker 2: But it is.
Speaker 3: But it's not it's not looking it's it's it's not
Speaker 3: like it's not like an f juicy United or anything.
Speaker 3: It's it's a weird like electronic pipe duct taped together
Speaker 3: shot gun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I think perhaps if people don't understand, we
Speaker 2: should like break down how fire around work broadly and
Speaker 2: then how this one works specifically. Right, So, like, and
Speaker 2: there's no reason why you should be familiar with this,
Speaker 2: but like you need something to explode, something to make
Speaker 2: it explode, and something to go out the end, and
Speaker 2: a way to make sure it only goes in one direction. Right,
Speaker 2: So what this character has done is seemingly it's yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like a blunderbuss or a musket in that it
Speaker 2: seems to be like muzzle loaded from the front and
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it now and it really is just
Speaker 2: covered in duct tape. I tweeted a picture of it.
Speaker 2: It's agay. Yeah, this shit is is very old fashioned.
Speaker 2: He seems to have made his own powder too, like
Speaker 2: it was very very smoky, which you can do. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to tell you how to do it, but
Speaker 2: it's the thing that is possible. And so essentially from
Speaker 2: what I'm seeing here, it looks like it's like a
Speaker 2: piezo electric ignition which then ignites this homemade powder that
Speaker 2: he had, and then he's put something in a shotgun,
Speaker 2: means it doesn't have fling right, so it doesn't spin
Speaker 2: on the projectile. So he's basically got two pipes, a
Speaker 2: Pizzo electric igniter, some homemade powder, and then he could
Speaker 2: have put nails in there. He could have put a
Speaker 2: cast lead ball, anything, bolts.
Speaker 3: And this wasn't the only homemade weapon he had. The
Speaker 3: police raided his house, he had a whole bunch of
Speaker 3: supplies that looks it looks out of like it looks
Speaker 3: like it's out of like fallout or something. It is
Speaker 3: like there was one like Blunderbust that had nine different
Speaker 3: barrels all duct taped together. It's like exposed wiring, exposed
Speaker 3: circuit boards, like it's it's like it's extremely janky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I'm not entirely sure that the nine
Speaker 2: barrel one, the central barrel isn't touched by the by
Speaker 2: the structural duct tape, and I'm not sure that it
Speaker 2: wouldn't have moved in one direction or the other.
Speaker 1: When he fired it.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, I think that's a there's like a yoga
Speaker 2: I can't see what he's put something on that. He's
Speaker 2: made a butt stock with that one, so like he
Speaker 2: can shoulder it, I guess. And I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's like a piece of tire or what. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is not a precision weapon wooden boards.
Speaker 3: There's like some type of like reflect it looks almost
Speaker 3: like a smartphone's attached to some of the wiring or
Speaker 3: there's something reflective screen that looks like it's like like
Speaker 3: an electronic control box, which could could just be like
Speaker 3: an old smartphone or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wondered if he could, because that's what you
Speaker 2: use for for an improvised explosive device, right, it's a
Speaker 2: it's a cell phone to actuate it, So it could
Speaker 2: be maybe he had a plan to just put it
Speaker 2: near where are they was going to be and then call.
Speaker 1: It and then have it.
Speaker 3: That would be well, I mean, no, this is a
Speaker 3: this is a much better It has the stock, so
Speaker 3: I'm guessing I'm guessing being to hold it because otherwise
Speaker 3: there's no reason to put the buttstock there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but who knows, Like this guy's operating on a
Speaker 1: different level.
Speaker 3: We have no way to what he was thinking, at
Speaker 3: least at least at least not at the moment.
Speaker 2: What he was thinking was I want to kill shinzo
Speaker 2: Abbe with my pipes and planks.
Speaker 1: He did it. He's exactly whatever you think of him.
Speaker 1: This man did successfully kill shinzo Abbey with a gun
Speaker 1: held together by duct tape. It's yeah, pretty impressive, Like
Speaker 1: I think the everything about this is kind of impressive,
Speaker 1: is a he so so he there were there were
Speaker 1: two barrels on it that each fired, and he he
Speaker 1: managed to hit him from like a pretty good distance away.
Speaker 1: Like we don't have there's there's no video of that directly,
Speaker 1: well at least not that's out yet that like directly
Speaker 1: shows the shooter. But we have a lot of video
Speaker 1: because Abbe is giving a speech, right, so we have
Speaker 1: a bunch of video of like filming Abbe and it's
Speaker 1: and because of where it is coming from off screen,
Speaker 1: like that was a pretty good distance. And as best
Speaker 1: I can tell, he only hit Abe. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think. I haven't seen any reports of anyone else
Speaker 1: getting hit, So I yeah, impressive.
Speaker 3: That is Actually that is actually kind of slightly surprising.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was. There was no one else hit. It's
Speaker 1: like he just the guy he was. That is that
Speaker 1: is genuinely pretty rare and assassinated.
Speaker 3: But like like basically like a homemade blunderbust cannon was
Speaker 3: like surprisingly surprisingly controlled, it accurate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've just found a picture of it with the
Speaker 2: Cyberpunk twenty twenty seventy seven logo underneath it, which is
Speaker 2: pretty great.
Speaker 1: Rules, yeah, it does.
Speaker 2: Rule. Yeah, he did manage to cause it kind of
Speaker 2: just put like a large, massive lead ball in it,
Speaker 2: I guess, and yeah whatever, because I don't think it.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was one thing. So one of
Speaker 1: the one thing I can say about the the that
Speaker 1: you guess to me know about the EMMO was that
Speaker 1: like there there were like a bunch of like they're
Speaker 1: they're one of the bunch of the reports about the
Speaker 1: injuries that he suffered. We're talking about like he got
Speaker 1: hit in the back, but there were also holes in
Speaker 1: his neck, So my guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was there was a lot of there's a
Speaker 3: lot of blood from a lot of different places.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it wasn't one thing then, But I
Speaker 1: don't know. Everything that's kind of interesting about this is
Speaker 1: like the extent to which well, okay, so like he
Speaker 1: was like ab was like very clearly dead. Like people
Speaker 1: people had like reported him at the scene as having
Speaker 1: no vitals and they were like, yeah, his heart stopped
Speaker 1: and they had like opt out him to like what Tokyo, Yeah, Tokyo.
Speaker 1: But the Japanese government did a very good job of
Speaker 1: making sure the press had like no information, and so
Speaker 1: there was just like there was like many many many
Speaker 1: hours where they were like pretending that he wasn't dead
Speaker 1: and like wouldn't confirm that he was dead. And he's
Speaker 1: like this, this man is clearly dead as shit, Like
Speaker 1: he has gotten blown up by a blunderbuss like in
Speaker 1: the back. His neck's gone. He's like, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: not not gone, like his neck. His neck's been shot,
Speaker 1: his heart has stopped, and they just sort of like
Speaker 1: keep it there for for a pretty impressively long wi time.
Speaker 1: And that's the other thing. We know very little about
Speaker 1: what happened and why the press has been keeping the
Speaker 1: government's been keeping a very tight lid on information about
Speaker 1: the shooting so far. Are Yeah, I guess we want
Speaker 1: to pivot into the gun control side of this, sure,
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 3: Okay, So the I mean like there was a mayor
Speaker 3: shot a few years ago, yeah.
Speaker 1: Seven a Yaki is a guy shot the mayor of Nagasaki,
Speaker 1: so like, and like there's a there's been a lot
Speaker 1: of people, like journalists, people who are like supposedly japan
Speaker 1: experts who are like, oh, this is really rare in
Speaker 1: Japanese culture. Is like, no, it's not. People get assassinated,
Speaker 1: like like the Japan has a very low rate of
Speaker 1: gun violence, but oh that gun violence. The number of
Speaker 1: politicians got to get assassinated is like unbelievably high. And
Speaker 1: you know, I mean like that there have been there
Speaker 1: have been a lot of I mean like Abe's like
Speaker 1: grandfather Wasishi like got stabbed right after we left office,
Speaker 1: like and he only didn't die because the guy who
Speaker 1: stabbed him claimed that he wasn't trying to kill him,
Speaker 1: he was just stabbing him, which is one of the
Speaker 1: weirdest things I've had heard. I don't know, I I
Speaker 1: suspect some of yakaza bullshit was going on there, but yeah,
Speaker 1: like I Japan has assassinations. It there's there's this weird
Speaker 1: thing where people think Japan is this place that's like
Speaker 1: like no violence happens, like it's a completely orderly society.
Speaker 1: It's like all this all this like weird stuff fas Japan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like like this, this is a country like this,
Speaker 1: This is a country where people like like even in
Speaker 1: like the seventies and like if you through the eighties,
Speaker 1: people would charge like RB convoys with sticks and like
Speaker 1: fight them. Like this is a country that like like
Speaker 1: people they have a sort of ape shit switch that.
Speaker 3: Just like yeah, they have their fair share of like
Speaker 3: cults that do acts of violence like this, fair share
Speaker 3: of political streamists that do violence like this, and like
Speaker 3: everywhere else in like like everywhere else in the world,
Speaker 3: stuff just happens sometimes. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is interesting that like Japan has
Speaker 2: extremely strict gun control, right, like licenses tests, background checks,
Speaker 2: prohibitions of most people learning and carrying. But like, it's
Speaker 2: kind of interesting that this is more of a like
Speaker 2: a First Amendment question, I guess in American terms, right, Like,
Speaker 2: if you're on the internet enough, I'm sure it looks
Speaker 2: like this person has just googled how to make gun
Speaker 2: and like this is what came up. And so I
Speaker 2: think it's kind of fascinating that that that this person
Speaker 2: has been like aside from their possible connection to any
Speaker 2: criminal networks, but like, I know the Yakiza were selling
Speaker 2: guns to people in me and mar pretty recently, so
Speaker 2: they have access to this pace.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like and the mayor who got whacked by
Speaker 1: yakrazy guy, Like if the Orkisa is going to do
Speaker 1: like I don't know if the is going to do
Speaker 1: a killing like they they like they they have access
Speaker 1: to weapon.
Speaker 4: They would use a real gun the Arctic together, Okay,
Speaker 4: So like probably, but also so like I wouldn't completely
Speaker 4: rule it out because I wouldn't rule out them just
Speaker 4: finding some guy and doing this thing the FBI does
Speaker 4: and it's like, hey, you're gonna go do an attack now,
Speaker 4: Like it wouldn't It wouldn't surprise me if that, if
Speaker 4: if they did that, I was like a plusile an
Speaker 4: ideally thing, but like we don't know.
Speaker 3: I still don't think we can rule out that HEADA.
Speaker 3: Kajima is the mastermind behind this.
Speaker 1: And it's all I know right is it's it's just
Speaker 1: a ployee to plug his next game.
Speaker 3: Just have to add a few like nonsense names to
Speaker 3: all the people involved, like blunderbustmen, and then it's just
Speaker 3: it's it's easy, easy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's fascinating that this person was seemingly like
Speaker 2: maybe had other plans or had tried several other like
Speaker 2: craft firearms, and settled on this one. But yeah, they
Speaker 2: have access to a lot of pipes, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Did you guys see the yakas a guy who was
Speaker 2: arms dealing to me and mar No no oh for
Speaker 2: fucking wild So he was like extensively stung by the Feds.
Speaker 1: So this guy, he was Yakaza, he.
Speaker 2: Was part of it like an ongoing sting operation for
Speaker 2: like several years where he was selling like basically like
Speaker 2: trading guns for drugs, trading guns to buy drugs. He
Speaker 2: was selling to a couple of groups in Me and MA.
Speaker 2: He was two groups in like the Tamil region and
Speaker 2: a couple of other people and he uh, he was
Speaker 2: at least one of the people he thought was a
Speaker 2: buyer was actually a FED. And they've captured all of
Speaker 2: these amazing conversations where they call the guns like cake
Speaker 2: and ice cream and like one of the one of
Speaker 2: the things in the in the criminal could play. It's
Speaker 2: a picture of him just with like a law like
Speaker 2: an anti tank weapon and he's just like if you
Speaker 2: get like the V sign and he's wearing these like
Speaker 2: yellow aviators and a leather jacket. Like the way they
Speaker 2: arrested him was at a steakhouse I think either in
Speaker 2: New York or New Jersey, but like they they lured
Speaker 2: him into a steakhouse meeting and then he got busted
Speaker 2: by the FED. But yeah, these guys were trafficking like
Speaker 2: serious stuff like surface to M missiles and things. They
Speaker 2: have access to some pretty heavy equipment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a pretty old like the OAS
Speaker 1: has been sort of like I don't know how you
Speaker 1: describe it, like a kind of like pera arm of
Speaker 1: the Japanese state in a lot of ways for a
Speaker 1: very very long time, Like there are there have been
Speaker 1: like Yakasa people with basically special forces training. They they
Speaker 1: at one point like kidnapped and killed the Empress of
Speaker 1: Korea as part of like a thing to like justify
Speaker 1: starting a war. So they are they're very well hooked up.
Speaker 1: I don't know, It's still unclear to me because like
Speaker 1: that's the obviously everything again, like they're the the LDP
Speaker 1: has a lot of Yakuza connections because kind of okay,
Speaker 1: partially kind of everything is connections, but a partially also
Speaker 1: because the Deacosa were like a sort of founding like
Speaker 1: political block of the LDP in the first place. So
Speaker 1: who knows, Like LDP people have gotten like attacked by
Speaker 1: people before. It could be that, it could be something else.
Speaker 1: We sort of just don't know yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing identifying this guy, Like I'm just looking
Speaker 2: at a picture of him and there's nothing particularly sort
Speaker 2: of identifying his clothing or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, I guess that's the death of Shinzo
Speaker 1: Hobby extremely funny.
Speaker 3: Critical support to Hideo Kajima and all of the other
Speaker 3: freedom fighters.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess I guess we could talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about the international response to this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because people have no idea.
Speaker 1: What's ethnic. Yeah, I mean, like so like all the
Speaker 1: Americans are sorry of like are doing the all American
Speaker 1: liberals that sort of doing like, oh my god, he
Speaker 1: was a good guy. It's like, no, it wasn't. This
Speaker 1: guy was a monster. Okay. I I will say this,
Speaker 1: Both the Chinese and the Korean embassies are being surprisingly
Speaker 1: diplomatic about it, as in, no one they haven't no
Speaker 1: one has actively insulted him yet social media wise.
Speaker 3: Politically, that's a good move for like inter country relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like I okay, like Japanese relationships with Korea.
Speaker 1: South Korea are well and North Korea are really bad,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the reason why they're really bad
Speaker 1: is specifically because of Changzawabe and because of all of
Speaker 1: his bullshit. But they're not gonna like a rubb it. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not clear to me that they wouldn't
Speaker 1: have done this if this had happened in like the
Speaker 1: two thousand tens, like instink, these guys really hate each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's been some sort of like people don't know, people
Speaker 1: trying to do a Taiwan angle on this because Abbey
Speaker 1: is like a Taiwan supporter, But I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's actually that much. People want this to have
Speaker 1: much more geopolitical like significance than it probably actually will. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's in the meantime. Yeah, fascist is dead. That's
Speaker 1: always funny.
Speaker 3: It happened, Uh yeah, it did in fact happen here. Well,
Speaker 3: it happened over there.
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, it could happen here.
Speaker 1: Sta statistically, we are we are about to do based
Speaker 1: on Yeah, you wouldn't need.
Speaker 2: To resort to deductate model in America.
Speaker 3: No, with the amount of firearms here, it is kind
Speaker 3: of a little it is sometimes a little surprising how
Speaker 3: little stuff like this actually happens. There's obviously a lot
Speaker 3: of work that goes into like preventing it, but but
Speaker 3: still sometimes it's kind of it's kind of shocking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like I think, I think. I think if
Speaker 1: you look at the last twenty years, I think more
Speaker 1: Japanese politicians have been assassinated American politicians. Like I'm trying,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of an American politician.
Speaker 3: Because weird, because they is a lot more American politicians
Speaker 3: and a lot of guns.
Speaker 1: They they they killed, they killed when they went after
Speaker 1: Gabby Giffords. They killed someone, I think, but yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of anyone else other than.
Speaker 2: That, not in recent memory. The guy who shot Reagan
Speaker 2: is now touring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he didn't even kill him. That's not even assassination.
Speaker 1: That's just an assassination attempt, like a very botched to one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, crossover between John Hinckley and Hideo Kajima's possible.
Speaker 2: That will be the game.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna keep referring to the suspect as Hideo Kajima.
Speaker 2: It's worth noting that, like he did have armed guards,
Speaker 2: so we're armed. God's present that you can see their
Speaker 2: guns in health serious is they take down the person
Speaker 2: who shot him, but they they were not on their
Speaker 2: A game that day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that you can see in the video. There's like
Speaker 1: one of the guys is I think, trying to like
Speaker 1: get a bulletproof briefcase in between Abe and the guy.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't work. It just it just doesn't. It
Speaker 1: just fails completely.
Speaker 3: Its one job they Yeah, like the operation meat Shield,
Speaker 3: they weren't just on they weren't just not on their
Speaker 3: A game.
Speaker 1: They completely failed at their own Yeah, it's not like
Speaker 1: the guy even tried to run away. He just like
Speaker 1: stood there and got arrested. Yeah. Yeah, he did not
Speaker 1: really put much of it, did not put up much
Speaker 1: of a fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah he No, he didn't. I think, Yeah, he
Speaker 2: he went down pretty fast. I guess he went with
Speaker 2: like this smaller game maybe to conceal it, because it
Speaker 2: looks like he was pretty close.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is that is very likely. Well, a very
Speaker 3: dark day for democracy, dark day for feminism, as Hillary
Speaker 3: Clinton said, Uh anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luckily they have ram and Manuel as a bastard
Speaker 2: to pan to come to them and as.
Speaker 1: Difficult the the l d P are the only people
Speaker 1: on earth who does who actually deserve Rama Manual. So look,
Speaker 1: if you, if you, if if you didn't want to
Speaker 1: have to deal with Rama Manual, you should have taken
Speaker 1: all that money. This is this is this is now
Speaker 1: their curse.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure we'll talk more about these types of
Speaker 3: home made weapons and all that kind of stuff in
Speaker 3: the future, because it is it is interesting, and you
Speaker 3: know places where places where like actual firearms are hard
Speaker 3: are harder to get. We're seeing more and more ship
Speaker 3: like this popping up. Yeah, yeah, and that that will
Speaker 3: definitely be worth be worth getting into along with three
Speaker 3: D printed weapons. All right, anything else to add or
Speaker 3: does that?
Speaker 1: Does it? Does that?
Speaker 3: Do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that's a wrap. All right.
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