1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to check us out live every weekday from 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: four to seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio dot Com, or stream 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: us every day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: That's right, it is the Odd Couple. Kelvin Washington, carry 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: Rhodes in for Rob for a man who says, I 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: never take days on Alex. He's taking seven months off. 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: Not two. Four minutes. I thought it was pregnant, not 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: full man, not five. 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: I don't realize it was just all that turkey is 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: belly and bait, chicken a rounds. That's why we got 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: a lot going on on this Magic City Monday. We're 16 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: gonna have a great show lined up for you. We got, 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: of course, a bunch of football talk to get to. 18 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: We got Timothy Parker coming up in the next hour. 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: He is a reporter of a Spectrum Networks was covering 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: the Rams training. He was at the Dodgers padre one 21 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: of the games in this series. So we'll talk to 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 1: Timothy Parker about what's happening in the LA Sports area. 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: Looking forward to that Tyler Dragon the following hour. It 24 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: would be of course enter for a reporter for USA Today, 25 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: bunch of NFL topics to get with him, but also 26 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: for you and I to discuss throughout the day. Let 27 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: me welcome in my partner for the day or next 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: couple of days. That is Carrie Rose, what sub brother 29 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: I was the weekend man? The weekend is good man. 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: Right now I'm in film mode, so filming a movie 31 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 4: right now, but like long hours, yeah, obviously, but good 32 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 4: times on set, good vibes, and I'm happy to be 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 4: with you. 34 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: Man. 35 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 4: You know how that goes. You know, when we get 36 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 4: in the building, it's all First of all, we got 37 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 4: to settle down. 38 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: Coming in here in the same type of eye we 39 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: walked in all black, all black on black with our shades. 40 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: We look like the Blues brothers. I don't know, the 41 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: Black brother something. It's got to be another version. Yeah, 42 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: Ryan wanted to be down. I told him you could. 43 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 4: There's like one level of black that I was like, Ryan, 44 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 4: the you can get us with the clothes, but there's 45 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: one more level. Yeah, he's miss missing a shad. We 46 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: could be creole. He could be creole, a little creole. 47 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: In this family. 48 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's welcome in the eye couple crew. We couldn't 49 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: do this amazing show without them. 50 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 4: We got Ryan and for Rob d Now wait wait 51 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 4: wait wait stop the music, Alex, I know, wasn't even 52 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: no music going. 53 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: What happened? Is Rob g solely out because it's his birthday? 54 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: I believe so? 55 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: No, you got to be more. Steve Seger is on 56 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: the job. Find me something to updated some trending. This 57 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: better not be It is Rob G out strictly because 58 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: his birthday? 59 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: Are you a team? 60 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: It is my birthday? I'm taking off workday. No, I 61 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 4: was here on my birthday. So no, so I'm not 62 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 4: on board with robb G just because my tripping. 63 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: No. 64 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: Because number one, we're not a woman. Number two, we're 65 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: not in high school. Yeah we don't. We don't even 66 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: need number two. Let's just start with number one. What 67 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 3: the heck? Well? 68 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 4: Is it only a day or is it like a 69 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 4: birthday month type week type thing? 70 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: Like we did a whole segment on that. Okay, we 71 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: did do it things men shouldn't be doing. One of them. 72 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: This is it this is it. You got to show up. 73 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: But you know you can listen. 74 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: You can take a weekend like we're gonna go down 75 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: to blah blah blah for my birthday. Okay, cool, I'm 76 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: with that. But the idea I'm not coming into work. 77 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: Maybe it's an extension. Maybe he was off on the weekend. 78 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna find this out. Steve Sager's gonna get on 79 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: top of that. 80 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: I know. 81 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: He just looked at me like, that's not what I'm 82 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: doing today. He's like, he's like, we're gonna get to 83 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: the bottom of this. Speaking of Steve, of course, Steve 84 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: the Sager is here as well. He's gonna get you 85 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: updated on what's training. And Alex on the boards on 86 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: the ones and two. All right, color, you would you say, 87 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: sons out, buns out. One of us has to bring 88 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: the color to the show. Yeah, well, I can't say 89 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: the stand up. 90 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: Let me see. Okay, it's a red shirt from the 91 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: New York City Marathon. Look at that. I thought you 92 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 3: were talking about the runners on the shirt. 93 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look mellenated the Brown Brothers for they're melandated 94 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: for sure. Was this but a matter of fact, you're 95 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: here usually your son's out, buns out s four days 96 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: and I'm gone, Okay, figured two week's gone. 97 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: One day. 98 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna have the entire crew at the same time, 99 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: maybe like the literal start of the football week. We'll 100 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: all be here at the same time. All right, We 101 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: got some again, some football to get to him. Excited 102 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: to do that. Ryan is gonna get a set on 103 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: what has been happening with young Caleb Williams. 104 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: That's right. 105 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 5: Caleb Williams had a very strong performance in his preseason 106 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 5: debut on Sunday, went six of ten passing for one 107 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 5: hundred and seven yards in a touchdown. PFF had his 108 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 5: great at eighty eight point nine. Ben Johnson had a 109 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 5: couple of really nice things to say for him after 110 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 5: the game. This is what Ben Johnson had to say. 111 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 6: Caleb made a couple big time throws in my opinion, 112 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 6: to keep that drive going, and some explosive plays there, 113 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 6: and so it was good. 114 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: It was good to see. I thought, really the. 115 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 6: Three days of practice we had this week and this 116 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 6: game were the most he stacked up good days in 117 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 6: a row right now, and so the challenges can be 118 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 6: to keep pushing in that direction, all right. 119 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: So here's my thing. We talked about this, Carrie. I 120 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: feel like I've even had some Caleb conversations with you 121 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks. Sure, yeah, yeah, So 122 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: here's my thing. When you go to a really really 123 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: good school, right, and let's say at high school, really 124 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: top notch high school. I went to a top five 125 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: public school when I was back in my day, and 126 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: it was with all I knew, right, It's all I 127 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: knew is all. That's where I'm from from ann Arbor. 128 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: It just grew up. Okay, what's the big deal? Was 129 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: not a great student? Shut up? Was an average student 130 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: there as far as the work side of it. 131 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: But the actual brightness, the intelligence you have it. 132 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: I say this to say, while I was there and 133 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: you know, having fun, hanging out, prolready doing all that 134 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: and just you know, burd you know, making it by 135 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: what I learned as I started to move to other cities, 136 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: was that time five education that I was receiving and 137 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: just me being you know, average whatever put me well 138 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: above so many other people. Once I started being around 139 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: kids who went to some of the you know, rougher 140 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: schools and other areas outside of Flynn, outside of Detroit, 141 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: and it was like, Oh wow, me just being around 142 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: that type of education rubbed off. I say that to 143 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: say Caleb Williams is benefiting from being around Ben Johnson. 144 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: Being around Ben Johnson, who is going to expose the 145 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: things that we knew his weaknesses were, but challenge him 146 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: to get better. Has an offense that is the reliance 147 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: upon him being better in order for this thing to work. 148 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: And you have a guy for his entire tenure with 149 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions was a top five offense, number one 150 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: last year, so he knows what he's doing. And so 151 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get the best version of Caleb Williams. 152 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: It's going to take time, because again, Caleb has been 153 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: able to benefit from being just gifted, being better, being faster, 154 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: more athletic, and all of that throughout middle school, high school, 155 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: into college where he was running around You're getting it 156 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: done and winning Heisman's and you know, having success in 157 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: that regard individually, not necessarily team. And I think all 158 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: of this is him benefiting from the curriculum of Ben Johnson, 159 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: from the curriculum of holding you to a standard, to 160 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: a curriculum of get off the team, first teamers, get 161 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: off the field. We this won't be acceptable. I'm burning timeouts. 162 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: You guys are taking for ever to get out the huddle, right, 163 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: And I think the expectations are going to be high 164 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: for him with specifically Ben Johnson, but he's going to 165 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: be able to extract the best of him and like 166 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: I said, he's going to learn so much from that 167 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: university of Ben Johnson that he'll go to another school, 168 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, and realize like wow, me being here has 169 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: benefited and elevated my game so much. But I still 170 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: think it's gonna take time. I still have still my concerns. 171 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the first thing you said is the 172 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 4: most I guess positive thing for Caleb Williams. Ben Johnson 173 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 4: is an a type like a type, a type of person, right, 174 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 4: so the attention to details matter. 175 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: You talked about it. Caleb has been gifted. 176 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: He's been one of the best players, I'm sure since 177 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 4: since he started playing right and so it's come easy 178 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 4: to him. 179 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: When you get to the NFL. 180 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 4: It may seem easy in preseason, it may seem easy 181 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 4: in practice sometimes because you know it just happens that 182 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 4: way sometimes. But when those live bullets started flying and 183 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: you see other people out there, trying to eat and 184 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: make money for their families. It's a different game, and 185 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: so or Caleb Williams. And I think for all the 186 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: detractors or even people on his side, calm down. This 187 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 4: is year two for this quarterback. And even with the 188 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 4: supposedly down year that he had last year, if you 189 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: look at his numbers for a rookie, you'll think it's 190 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 4: pretty impressive. And so obviously when you come with the 191 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: generational talent titles and you know, people saying that you're 192 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 4: the best prospect since whatever, like those expectations is going 193 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 4: to be high and unrealistic anyway. I mean, you look 194 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 4: at Peyton Manning when he came in, right, he had 195 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 4: all the tuols, he had the pedigree. Year one he 196 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: was trash. Cayleb Williams year one was better than Peyton Manning. 197 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 4: So calm down. What you're saying, He's gonna have a 198 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: better career than Peyton Manning. 199 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: I know, yes. 200 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: Parker did not say that, Rob, But what I'm saying 201 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 4: is the fact that people want to the Other thing 202 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 4: about all of this which really makes me upset, to 203 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 4: be honest, is the coverage. 204 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: I think we have too much coverage. 205 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 4: I know, we're in the business of coverage, but I 206 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 4: think there are some people, there are some people that 207 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 4: should not be covering, Like we don't need to know 208 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 4: that his teammates didn't step up for him when he 209 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 4: got bumped, and like some of that information needs to 210 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: be handled within. And so the fact that we're getting 211 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 4: so much information and we're you know, we're really like 212 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 4: lining this thing up day by day. You had a 213 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 4: good day day one, day two, he's in training camp. 214 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: You're supposed to struggle. The coach is gonna put you 215 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: in situations where you have to figure it out. And 216 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: if he hasn't figured it out yet, it's gonna be 217 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 4: a problem. 218 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: You know. 219 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 4: First of all, let me let me tell you what's 220 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 4: driving me crazy right now. You just brought that up 221 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 4: social media. 222 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: Let me let me just I want to slap everybody 223 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: here's but specifically, why remember the good old days when 224 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: Sports Center would post something on a on a page 225 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: or put something out there. It would actually be something 226 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: about basketball, football, baseball, a sport we all enjoy. Yes, 227 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: remember it be an incredible highlight. Now they'll just posts 228 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: a random kid shooting his uh, his boxes cereal and 229 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: a cart in a Walmart Top ten. 230 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: What what is going on? That's what I'm telling you. 231 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 2: Yo. 232 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: The standards, Yo, Yo, the standards. We gotta relax. 233 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: I understand the need to push content, especially if you're 234 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: a content creator like a regular person, but the standard 235 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: bear has got to come on. Now, let's get back 236 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: to bearing them standards. Because I go on my social 237 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: media and I see the most random. It'll be a 238 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: five year old in the backyard who put a spin 239 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: move on his friend, you know, and playing backyard sandline football, 240 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: and that'll make all that. I'm like, all right, why 241 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: are we showing that exactly? I say that to say 242 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: to your point, we do cover everything. We'll cover every throw. 243 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: You used to just know only in the preseason game. 244 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: That's it. Maybe if something huge or bad happened came out. 245 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: Now we know every throw, every nick, every I got 246 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: a scratch, I got a boo boo. Man, what teammate 247 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: yelled at them? And the things that are becoming. Things 248 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: were so regular. You played in the league and not 249 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: too far removed us bumping chest and us with that 250 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: was stand over. Not we all been seeing hard knocks 251 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: for twenty some years. That's so regular. 252 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 4: But now it's like, oh my gosh, yo, this is 253 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 4: happening in training cap he grabs some water and sprayed 254 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: it and they got okay. 255 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 3: But this has been happening guys. 256 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 4: Kelvin, he struggled in team blitz pick up against the 257 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 4: entral squad that they was going agat. I don't remember 258 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 4: who it was, but somebody reported that. I'm like, you 259 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: saw him in one period and said, this guy isn't 260 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 4: going to have a good year this year. Relax now, 261 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: he did look bad in basketball shorts and T shirts. 262 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: I did need more out of him. I did need 263 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 4: more out of him than five out seventeen. Carrie, Carrie 264 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 4: carry you see what happened in game one, well, the 265 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 4: game two of preseason when he got his snaps what 266 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 4: he did? 267 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: He looked good, right, he looked good. 268 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: Listen, I hope he looks to an extent as a 269 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: Detroit hold On, you can look good, but don't look good. 270 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: I need him to be like you know, I needed 271 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: to be somebody else. He can't be halle Berry looking 272 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: good like that. Held On, don't look like that. Okay, 273 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: you can be cool, don't look that good. My point is, 274 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: as you know, the preseason is gonna be too much 275 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: to try to go back and forth with right, like 276 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna because now he looks mid the next game 277 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: ile you and I got to come on here and 278 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: do that. That's why I, for me, was the larger 279 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: point of Ben Johnson is going to whatever's in there, 280 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to extract it the best out 281 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: of you. And you know this from a business or 282 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: entrepreneurial standpoint, one of the things you're supposed to do 283 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: is hire to your weaknesses. You want somebody that, hey, 284 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm not good at organization, will find someone who's organization 285 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: league spectacular. Hey I'm not good at math, or I'm 286 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: not good at my finances, go get a financial advisor, 287 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: somebody who can do all of that. I say that 288 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: to say this is why if you're a Bears fan, 289 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: you'd be hopeful that Ben Johnson, that's what he does. 290 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: If you looked at Jared Goff and the offense, it 291 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: was very precision oriented, right, because you know, Jared Golf 292 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: ain't rolling around and running every although every now and 293 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: again he did catch a pass, how he caught a 294 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: touchdown pass. 295 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 3: But they were so unexpected. 296 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 4: That's why he was open Thatath falls in the same 297 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 4: category as that little kid shooting the ball the siria 298 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 4: and the butt. 299 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah that does. He was wide open. 300 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: It was like when Peyton Manning used to play fake, 301 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: fake the handoff and keep running. 302 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 3: Everybody like what, man, he is not running? 303 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: He actually run. Yeah, I know that's a touchdown. We're 304 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to just give up because we did not 305 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: see that coming. But I said that to say I 306 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: just think Ben Johnson's gonna be if it's there, if 307 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: he can be good with timing, if he can be 308 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: on point on time, if he can be his processing 309 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: can be sped up. This is the guy that will 310 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: help him do it, and that their marriage needs to 311 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: be one that can go stand the test of time 312 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: because they can get the best out of each other. Hey, 313 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: these are the things you're great at, Ben Johnson. By 314 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: the way, you might be getting a guy who can 315 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: do the other things too, Meaning I can actually run 316 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: out of the pipe when when the play we have 317 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: design doesn't work. I can scramble that pass was supposed 318 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: to I know, but I got the armstrengts and talent 319 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: to get it to the other guy the second or 320 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: third look. 321 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 3: If it need be. 322 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: So if they can marriage and make that happen, and 323 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm expect it to be fireworks necessarily year two right 324 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: off the bat. Yeah, but if they can get that 325 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: thing Roland, that will be scary for that division for 326 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: sure and in the league as they continue to move forward. 327 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: But again, I think there's gonna be He's gonna it's 328 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: gonna take time because again, for his whole life, I've 329 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: just simply been better than you. I've just simply made 330 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: a way when there's been no way, and you subconsciously 331 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: become relying on that. And that is the difficulty with 332 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: people who are extremely talented. It's to rely right you 333 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: get to the NBA. I've always been faster, jump, higher, stronger, 334 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: And then, like you said, yeah do so have all 335 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: of us, and some of us are working alive. Kobe 336 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: Bryant every year, I'm I'm in my lab Lebron every year. 337 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm Michael Jordan, I'm coming back. I'm getting better, I'm better. 338 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm Steph Curry. I'm working on my left hand even more. 339 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm working on this shot. And dudes, just or I 340 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: can hoop, No, we all can hoop. 341 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 4: We all can do it. Kelvin the thing for Caleb, 342 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 4: and I'm gonna make it simple. If he's coachable this year, 343 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 4: he's gonna do his job and he's gonna do it 344 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 4: well because the tools are there. You him all the 345 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 4: things you said he's elusive. If he can make plays 346 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: happen off of off of the first read, right, if 347 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 4: he's accurate and no time with the first read, and 348 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: he's and he's coachable this year, this team's gonna be. 349 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 4: This team's gonna be right in the thick of that division. 350 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 4: And I'm sorry. I'm sorry for you Lions. If we 351 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 4: already got deal with the Packers and everybody, oh, I know. 352 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 4: But if he's coachable and he really takes in what 353 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 4: Ben Johnson's selling, they're gonna be they're gonna be dangerous. 354 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: No, you just made me not even I hope he's not. 355 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: I hope, I hope. 356 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: I hope Ben Johnson turns into Ben Johnson the track star. 357 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: There you be out here cheating, Steve. I wanted to 358 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: smile out of you on that one, Steve. No, Steve 359 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: ain't paying attention. He went right now, all right, eight seven, 360 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: seven ninety nine on Fox. Uh, let's let's get We'll 361 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: take a couple of calls on that. 362 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 3: If you are. 363 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: Like carrying on and still saying, pump the breaks a 364 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: little bit on just a preseason few drives. Yes, pump 365 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: the brakes. But where are you with Kayla Williams? Do 366 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: you believe this will be a breakout year? Do you 367 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: believe he is maybe had some of his issues will 368 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: never change. Maybe you're not, Maybe you feel he was 369 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: over hyped all these three years or so. 370 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 371 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 372 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 373 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 374 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: He's Mike Carmen, I'm Dan Bayern. 375 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 7: We have a fantasy football podcast called I Want Your Flexed. 376 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: That's right, Dan. 377 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 8: Every week we're gonna scour the waiver wire to find 378 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 8: the pickups to turbot boost your fantasy lineup six starts, 379 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 8: fantasy football players rankings to get you ready to dominate 380 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 8: the competition. 381 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 7: Listen to I Want Your flex with Mike Carmon and 382 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 7: meet Dan Byer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts and 383 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 7: wherever you get your podcasts. 384 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: That's right, I am him kelvin Washington. 385 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: It's the ot couple of my guy Carrie Rose in 386 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: for Rob on a Magic City Monday. Coming up a 387 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: little bit later bottom of the hour, my brother Timothy Parker, 388 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: who is with Spectrum Networks with me where I do 389 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: my morning show every. 390 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: Morning six to noon. 391 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: If you are in LA on Spectrum News one, get 392 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: a chance to uh see you boy, get a different 393 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: you know different like yep, appreciate it if you're in LA. 394 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: Timothy Parker, he's going to join us. He's been spending 395 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: some time with the Rams at the camp. He was 396 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: at the Dodgers Padres game as well, part of one 397 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: of the games during that series. So he'll give us 398 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: some inside what's been happening around LA sports scene. Looking 399 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: forward to that next hour, we will have Tyler Dragon 400 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: who's gonna join us. He is a reporter with USA Today. 401 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: The NFL reported there and he'll give us some updates 402 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: on a bunch of NFL headlines that have happened over 403 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: the last handful of days. So looking forward to talking 404 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: to both of them as well. With iHeartRadio app, you 405 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: can stream us wherever you happen to be. 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And on those days, luckily there's a lead. 416 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: With just one pill of lead provides up to two 417 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: hours of paying relief so you can keep it moving. 418 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: Make sure you use as directed. All right, So let's 419 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: talk some more NFL and some more younger quarterbacks were 420 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: talking about Kayle Williams last hour. Let's talk about Dylan 421 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: Gabriel and how he is. He had we got to 422 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: see him finally. You know, I've been dealing with that 423 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: hamstring injury for a little bit there, so we got 424 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: to see him perform in his preseason debut, and a 425 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: lot of folks kind of me he kind of I've 426 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: been saying that he had kind of been under the 427 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: radar because all of the conversations was about Shadure. 428 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he had one hundred and forty three yards. 429 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: He fumbled through an interception that kind of wasn't in 430 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: his interception, but you know, obviously he's gonna go in 431 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: his stats. But and by the way, I got to 432 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: give him some credit through some lasers, dough some darts. 433 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: He looked good throwing some of those passes in the 434 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: tight coverage and a lot of his I think you 435 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: you've been high on you do like that? Yeah, a 436 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: lot of folks who said, man, that's what he can do. 437 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: So he did the best that he could there. But 438 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: of course it wouldn't be sports in twenty twenty five 439 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for the other stuff. You thought we 440 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: was gonna talk about him. Man, it's a great players 441 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 1: performing at a good job. Yeah, he did a job here. 442 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 1: You look at him. 443 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 4: He was he was one hundred and forty three yards. 444 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 4: He was thirteen for eighteen seventy two percent. 445 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 3: Nah, na dah. It was what happened off the field 446 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 3: that everybody talking. Here's what he had to say. 447 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 9: You know, there's there's entertainers and there's competitors, and I 448 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 9: totally understand that. And My job is to compete, and 449 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 9: that's what I'm focused on doing. 450 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 3: Of course, we're. 451 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 9: Doing this big game, but you know it's something that 452 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 9: I'll get used to and just want to be the 453 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 9: best team that I can and create an environment where 454 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 9: we can all go do our best work. That's all 455 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 9: we want to do. 456 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: And social media lit your boy dealing Gabriel up. They 457 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: had a bunch to say about that. What you taking 458 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: shots at? Who should do? What we doing here? And 459 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 1: hold on dealing. Gabriel had to say, hold hold on, 460 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: this is what I meant by this. 461 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 3: Is what I meant all about thirteen. You know what 462 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 3: I mean in each other. 463 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 2: I would never make that and I've said it before. 464 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 9: It TWI. It's interesting, But for me, it's I've explained 465 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 9: that the entertainers are you all competitor, That's what. 466 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 5: I am and all my teammates and we both have 467 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 5: jobs to do. 468 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 9: So that's it. 469 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 470 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: And then social media debates have becut, Oh my god. 471 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: People wanted to know was he taking shots at your door? 472 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: Who he is competing with to be the number two? 473 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: If your name was Kevin Washington and you were the coach, 474 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: you'd be competing for maybe being the starter. That's just me. 475 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a minute. Because they also 476 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: named Joe Flacco as quarterback one. We'll talk about that 477 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: in a little bit. No surprise there. But I do 478 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: have my points. I love to get your thoughts on 479 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: that as well. But this is my thing with the 480 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel. Look, I do not believe that he was 481 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: talking about your door. I wish she was talking about 482 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: your door because I could light into him. 483 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 3: I could have a big old thing. 484 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: Oh, when the competition's on, you already throw your man 485 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: under the bus when the competition the lights are on. 486 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: This is how you handled I would have loved to 487 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: go on that route. But the more I have reason 488 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: to take a break and don't have to just go 489 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: by with social media you're telling me I gotta say. 490 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: And the more you dissect and god forbid, do a 491 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: little research, you realize Dylan Gabriel has said this before. 492 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: You know how folks have their mantras. This is my 493 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: thing I stand on, This is the thing I believe him. 494 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: Being a quarterback, you can tell he takes the position seriously. 495 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: You can tell he wants to be good at the podium, 496 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: and this is one of those things he's mentioned before. 497 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: And he was talking about entertainers. He was talking about 498 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: people like me and you. Yeah, because you on this 499 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: side now on the field, no more care. You ain't 500 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: if I did both, stay focused. 501 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: You ever hear it now? 502 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 4: Nobody want to hear about that. I'll bring it up 503 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 4: later when you played, But right now you ain't us. 504 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 4: And so this is him, say what you know? That's 505 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 4: that coach speak that QB once speak. Right well, locked in, 506 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 4: this is what we do. It's all about us. 507 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: We're only worried about our locker room and we can 508 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: only control the controllables and all those mantras and sayings 509 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: and cliches you say. 510 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: And so that's what he was doing. 511 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: But it was another lesson learned of you being podium 512 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: ready in high school. You being podium ready in college 513 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: is different than the pros. You being podium ready is 514 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: different than the pros. You being the guy you know 515 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:09,239 Speaker 1: historically in college is a lot. At Oregon and at 516 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: organ has been a very successful program in the last 517 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: twenty thirty years, but it's hit different than being in 518 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland and in the NFL, where there's already controversy. They've 519 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: been successful, but we don't know any of their players exactly. 520 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: And now you're in a position where we are waiting, 521 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: we are watching what Joe Flacco gonna say? Is he 522 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: gonna say, I don't care about these youngins. I'm trying 523 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: to do me what's Kenny Pick? No, actually nobody cares 524 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: about Kenny Pick? What is Dylan Gaber't gonna do? 525 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: Or say? What is Sho do? 526 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: Or Deon Sanders Gon say we're all watching this soap opera. 527 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: And he threw out a little fuel to add to 528 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: the fire. And there is a lesson to be learned 529 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: with that. And I think again, while he was well groomed, 530 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: and you know, and and was ready to be again 531 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: that podium ready guy at at Oregon, welcome to the pros. 532 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: And just like the pro game is different, and the 533 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: speed is different, and the pace in which they play 534 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: is different. And that that linebacker I used to escape 535 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: for is running a four to three. Now it hit different. 536 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: So does all the drama and everything that comes with it. 537 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: So he was trying to avoid entertainers, and by the 538 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: little Freudian slip there, he threw some fuel to the entertainers. 539 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: And now we're having these conversations and instead of what's 540 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: on the field, And we're gonna get back to that 541 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: what's on the field, because I do want to talk 542 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: about Joe fla o QB one. 543 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: But what's your thoughts on Dylian? 544 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, you said you said a lot there about 545 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 4: the vacuum that's the NFL. 546 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 3: And the vacuum that's Cleveland right now. It's insane. 547 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 4: So anything that happens or anything that's said, obviously it's 548 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 4: going to be amplified, right, And so I don't think 549 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 4: you have to watch what you say. I think I 550 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 4: think there's like a misconception with that for athletes, right, 551 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 4: as long as you're yourself, I think people are gonna 552 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 4: love you or hate you regardless. Take for example, Marson 553 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 4: Lynch his interviews and stuff he did when he was 554 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 4: talking to the media, he was solely himself. Either you 555 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 4: liked it or you hated it, right, But being in 556 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 4: between and doing the politically correct thing, when especially nowadays 557 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 4: with the coverage that they have in the NFL, you're 558 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: not gonna win anyway. So for me, I would tell 559 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 4: any player that's going through training if I was giving 560 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 4: them training, obviously there are things in their team principles 561 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 4: that your team stands by. So there are things you 562 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 4: have to operate when it comes to that. But when 563 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 4: it comes to you and you trying to get yourself 564 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 4: or get your point across to whoever it is outside 565 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 4: of your team, just be you because everything you say 566 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 4: is going to be picked apart anyway. So if as 567 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 4: long as you're being yourself and you can live with 568 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 4: what you're saying and what's going on, do that you 569 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 4: don't have to worry about having the Freudian slip at 570 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 4: that point, right, Like, no, I meant what I said, 571 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 4: and I don't have to go back on and you 572 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 4: know I've said that this is who I am. So 573 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 4: I think that's the part about media and kids and 574 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 4: these guys, this new age NFL with so much coverage 575 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 4: around it. 576 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: Well, I think that what happens though, I think that 577 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: comes with getting burned a couple of times like this, 578 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: where you start to say, screw it. Yeah, I say 579 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: I love Sy y'all can say no, you don't exactly. 580 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 3: I say I hate Sha. You say, see he hate her. 581 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: So I might as well stand on business and say 582 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: what I believe, and I believe and stand on that 583 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: and I think that comes from getting burned. So I 584 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: think he's gonna learn that I'm gonna say what I 585 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: mean and mean what I say regardless, and obviously he 586 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: did in his case, but I ain't gonna be doing 587 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: a lot of backtracking, right And honestly it took you 588 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: know me, you I may be different because like maybe 589 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: for you, it was being the player and they were 590 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: interviewed you you're a player now again you're a former player. 591 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: I'm a player now, okay. 592 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: And maybe they were asking you questions and you were 593 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: trying to do the perfect little thing, or maybe it's 594 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: now you on this side of things or being interviewed 595 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: as an artist and whatnot, and I had to learn that, 596 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: you know we're doing this on a mic. Well, I 597 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: don't want to offend. And maybe it's like, man, this, hey, 598 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: this is how I feel, This is what I believe. 599 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: This is my opinion. And you have to be comfortable 600 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: because right now somebody's gonna say, man, you're crazy to 601 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: hate you. Somebody else is gonna say, man, you one 602 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: thousand zica rate. You want to be exactly saying what 603 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: you believe, standing on that and it be what it is, 604 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: say what you so nobody else can take it out 605 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: of context one hundred percent. So with that being said, though, Dylan, 606 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: Gabriel and now Shaud Dour as well both look solid. 607 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: Gabriel throwing an interception of pick six and also fumbling 608 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: which was absolutely his fault, but overall played pretty well, 609 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: as did Shaduur. 610 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 3: He played really well. 611 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: So now you come out after that when both the 612 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: week prior Shadur, this week is Gabriel Dylan, and now 613 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: they say Joe Flacco's QB one, which was to be expected. 614 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: We all thought that. My thought intake has been this. 615 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: This is where Rob and I disagree, and you can 616 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on it. I'm straight 617 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: on the recyclables. I'm straight on going back to my 618 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: old girl that on the left started again, left them 619 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: passed on, and now I'm going back to her again. 620 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: When I know what it's gonna be, We're gonna have 621 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: a good six weeks and then I'm gonna be pulling 622 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: my hair out again and wanting to get on and 623 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: move on. That's Joe Flacco. You're gonna have a good 624 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: six weeks. You're gonna be six and eleven with Joe Flacco. 625 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: And he'll have three weeks in a row where. 626 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:08,719 Speaker 4: You like see it. 627 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: So what I'm talking about baby playoffs And then you're 628 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: gonna go, why is this dude starting similar to Indianapolis? 629 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: And then you can to me, my whole point is, 630 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: i'd rather start if it's Dylan. Fine, let's get the 631 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel train rolling. 632 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 4: If it's your door, which i'd rather be because you 633 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 4: just from the fan. 634 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: I don't know why to not. 635 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: I'd be embracing the fan fare. Fans are all in. Well, 636 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: he's got the number two. 637 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: Jersey. 638 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: Ratings were up, more people to watch the preseason game 639 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: than ever for the Browns. I'm rolling into that. I'm 640 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: loving it. We got a guy and he's young, so 641 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: that there's potential as long as he's progressing Carrie throughout 642 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: the season, and even if we only go six and eleven, 643 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: but I see where we're going. 644 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 3: Allah. 645 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: You mentioned Peyton Manning last hour, and say be Peyton. 646 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: But my point is to me, I'd rather that with 647 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: the young guy. And let's say Chador sucks and he 648 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: goes oh for six and just looking horrible. Yeah, yep, Dylan, 649 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: you out, buddy. I don't get to recycling Joe old Coole. 650 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: I already know what that is. Well, and he's two 651 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: years removed from taking y'all the postseason. He took you 652 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: to postseason. You let him go, y'all said, thanks for 653 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: note things, get out of here, and then you spun 654 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: the block back and you want to get that to me. 655 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: I don't see what the advantage is when I don't 656 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: see it's going to be a winning scenario. 657 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: And again, these. 658 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks are coming in with a bunch of starts, yep, 659 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: coming in ready, Shadoor is about is I'm not saying 660 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: he's going to be great right off the bet. What 661 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying is experience wise, well, Kelvin, it's a lot 662 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: of things, right. So number one, number one, Flocko. They 663 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: sent Flucko away at the demand of Deshaun Watson's team, 664 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: so they didn't want to get rid of him. They 665 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: wanted to keep him milk. There was a reason for that. 666 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: So that's number one, white left number two. All that 667 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: sounds good throwing those guys in there, But and I 668 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: think the expectations for the Cleveland Browns on the outside 669 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: is pretty low because they're in a tough, tough division. 670 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: You know they had a down season last year, huh, 671 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: But I think the core of that team is really 672 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: good and I think they can compete and I think 673 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: they can win a lot of games this year. Debate, right, 674 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: but I think they have that talent. So you have 675 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: a quarterback that took you to the playoffs a year 676 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: and had two years ago, and you know what you're 677 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: gonna get from him with the team that's. 678 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you do. 679 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 4: You know you already said he's gonna he's gonna be 680 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 4: he's gonna have three weeks where he's playing great and 681 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 4: he's gonna win three games for you and maybe he 682 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 4: loses one, but you know he can win games for you. 683 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: So you have a team that's ready. 684 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 4: You have a team that's ready, and they're gonna give 685 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 4: them themselves the best chance to win. And also we 686 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 4: don't know the least for their head coach Kevin Stefanski either. 687 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 688 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 689 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 690 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: listen live. 691 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: That's right, Kevin Washington, carry Rose, we already odd couple. 692 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: He is in for Rob on this Magic City Monday. 693 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: Big thank you to Timothy Parker from Spectrum Sport Networks. 694 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: I should say, joined us moments ago check out the podcast. 695 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: Got a chance to talk to him about things that 696 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: happened in LA sports wise, especially Matthew Stafford Carrey showing 697 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: up to practice and practicing, and I like the way 698 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: Timothy said it. He said, maybe just kind of you know, 699 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: saving face, just kind of hey, going out there a 700 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: little bit, and you know, because we still don't know 701 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: what the heck's going on there. Coming up a little 702 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: bit later bottom of the hour, about six thirty on 703 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: the West, nine to thirty on the East, we will 704 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: have Tyler Dragon. 705 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 4: NFL reporter for USA. Today's gonna join us. We'll talk 706 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: some more NFL headlines with him. Looking forward to that. 707 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 4: Afterwards we'll do last Call. Get a chance to hear 708 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 4: from you as well. 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A lead provides 724 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: up to twelve hours of paying relief so you can 725 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: keep on moving. Use as directed get to our Big 726 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: ten conversation. One bit, I just wanted to give you props. Well, 727 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: you've been fighting through what I've been fighting through. I 728 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: know that you're sick that you lost or broke or whatever. 729 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: You did some cool, pretty some pretty cool shade you had. 730 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: And more importantly than the shades that were just right, dude. 731 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 4: When you find those pair of shades that fit, you 732 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 4: want to hold on near and dear to them. You 733 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 4: almost suffocate them. Yeah, you know, keep them really close 734 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 4: and uh yeah, I set them down and set them 735 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 4: down in the theater man, And Okay, I was so 736 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 4: tired and just wanted to get out of there right 737 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 4: and in the haste, I just left out and left 738 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 4: them in the cup holder at the theater. Oh, never 739 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 4: to be seen again. Did we call them? We called, 740 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 4: We went back, We did call. Okay, they weren't there. 741 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 4: How long between the leaving and the callback it was 742 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 4: probably it was like a day and a half. 743 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: Oh, them big, gone big. I'm so glad this ain't 744 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: the nineties. And you would have wasted your minutes. Remember 745 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: we had minutes for ourselves. You'd have wasted minutes. I 746 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: thought you were gonna say, like two three hours. Okay, 747 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: there's hope, Nah, Alex, give me the glow real of 748 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: seven seven. Let me tell you it is so fly. 749 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: It's some fly person working in that theater right now, Alex. 750 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: They're right around, right now with Carrie shades on feeling 751 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: good on this summer day, right now, while I'm nice 752 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: right man, while I'm in my feelings over here, while 753 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: you were in your feeling dropping songs, they're feeling good 754 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: righting around your shades. 755 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 3: Boy, I tell you you're right though. 756 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: When you get it, when you get a perfect fit, dude, 757 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: I don't care if they cost I was telling you 758 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: and Ryan, yeah, costs a dollar or twenty thousand dollars. 759 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 9: Right? 760 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 3: When are the ones you like fit? Right? 761 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: You know you like the ten and just to make 762 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: you feel good when you wear Man prices and we've 763 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: all lost a pair two. I had to call a 764 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: hotel I had. It was an award show. Left them 765 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: on the table. I called, hey, hello, big hotel. Hey, yeah, 766 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: they're like, they're here and they I had to pay 767 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: like twenty five dollars for them to mail them to me. 768 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 4: But dang it, you got them. It was worth And no, 769 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 4: I don't know where they are. Let's stay focused. I 770 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 4: have no idea whe they are, to be honest, I 771 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 4: think my daughter's tossing them somewhere, all right. 772 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 3: By Kerry Rhoades shades. 773 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 4: Ooh, shaded ooh, noted, noted, just let me get it, 774 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 4: let me get let me get eight bars on it, 775 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 4: all right, Ryan Man, there's a Big ten floating idea 776 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 4: about twenty eighteen college football playoff breaking down. 777 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 5: Yes, So this was a report that came out from 778 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 5: Pete Thamill over the weekend. He said the Big Ten 779 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 5: has considered an idea of massive expansion to the college 780 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 5: football playoff that would grow the postseason to twenty four 781 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 5: or twenty eight teams. While the idea is in the 782 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 5: very early stages, the proposal eliminates conference title games and 783 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 5: offers a large number of auto bids for all four 784 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 5: Power leagues, sources said. For example, in the twenty eight 785 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 5: team model, the Big Ten and SEC would each get 786 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 5: seven auto bids, while the ACC and Big twelve would 787 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 5: each receive five. There would be two auto bids for 788 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 5: the non Power four conferences and two at large teams. 789 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 5: Big Big Ten commissioner Tony Petiti ran the idea by 790 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 5: his conference last Wednesday, and it has begun being shared 791 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 5: by others. 792 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: All Right, we went from four to twelve, not four 793 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: to eight, four to twelve, and now not twelve to 794 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,959 Speaker 1: sixteen and twenty two twenty four. 795 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 3: We're jumping at twenty eight. Now. 796 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 1: There's a lot to break down here, Kerrie, So let's 797 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: get into this, all right. So first of all, is 798 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: this march madness in the fall? 799 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: What are we doing? 800 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 3: It's crazy? And I'm assuming you I don't know, So 801 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, Wryan, because I don't. You might 802 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 3: love the. 803 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: Idea, I don't know So this is what you're setting 804 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: up for. You're setting up for the big ten one 805 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: seven teams in whatever it is. You're gonna have a 806 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: four loss Indiana team or a four loss Iowa team 807 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: actually competing and having a chance, you never know, to 808 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: get to the national championship game. And this is what 809 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: you have when you start to think about money over tradition, 810 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: right when you start to picture everything is about a dollar, 811 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: which we know that it is. But Dan Get, the 812 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: illusion is gone. It's gone. They ain't even trying to 813 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: hide it anymore. And to stop selling me, by the way, 814 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: Ryan carry, stop selling me on safety of the collegiate athlete. 815 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 3: He's a scholar athlete. 816 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,959 Speaker 1: Stop that, because I mean there's gonna be more because 817 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 1: you gotta go round around right other than the four teams, 818 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: but they'll get a bye. We gotta go round around 819 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: city to city, more traveling. 820 00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 3: And this is. 821 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: Exactly why these kids should get the money they can. 822 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: Now. 823 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: I think there's some parameters in some ways to do 824 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: it better, but you should because you never know, dud, 825 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: You've got more games, less time, you focusing on your academics, 826 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: which some aren't. And I want to put say all 827 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: work there's a lot who are understand I ain't going pro, 828 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: but there's some who believe they are and ain't caring 829 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: right now, So let's start with the idea they're the 830 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: student athlete, because that clearly is not the case here. 831 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: And to put money over tradition again, and this is 832 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: greed when you're talking about from the Big ten and 833 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: the SEC. Right, so we already know that coud both 834 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: these teams will get seven bids, which you mean seven 835 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: teams in and so on and so forth, more popularity, 836 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: more television, and then this is just gonna be something 837 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: where we already had to blow out this last go round, right, 838 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: the average you know what the first round was, the 839 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: average margin of victory almost twenty was nineteen points a game. 840 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 3: Okay, you had more. 841 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: Now you have more games where the possibility of these 842 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: blowouts and it's whereas a waste of time and we're 843 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: not really watch it. And again I go back to 844 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: the becoming the meaningless games college football would made it 845 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: different than other ones is there's about twenty teams or so, 846 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,439 Speaker 1: who hey, we can't lose more than two? 847 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, max three? But two? 848 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: Really is it to really have a chance to compete? 849 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: Now you can lose three, four, maybe five if we 850 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: go to this twenty eight game model. So college football 851 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: is perfect because it's not like the other sports programs, 852 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,919 Speaker 1: and the moment we actually make it to get where it's, 853 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, easier to get in, we're gonna lose. What 854 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: makes it special for those Again, there's a lotment of 855 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: teams who actually have a shot a shot at it, 856 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: and sometimes bigger than necessarily mean better. In this case, 857 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: it means greedier. And I'm saying, guys, like, where's the 858 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: point of it all when you have a chance to 859 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: be in it? Even if you lose, Skip two, three weeks, 860 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 1: lose again, skip another couple weeks, lose again, don't. 861 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 3: Worry about the fans. We still got a shot. Yeah. 862 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 4: All this is doing, Kelvin is taking the urgency out 863 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 4: of college football, right, Like, if you can lose that 864 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 4: amount of games, I don't have to tune in as 865 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 4: much to watch because it doesn't matter as much. Like 866 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 4: if you lose a game two games now, like you're 867 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 4: still in the hunt. 868 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 3: When I played, if you lost one game, you're done. 869 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 4: Like the importance that each game, each game meant for 870 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 4: college collegiate athletes at the time was a big deal 871 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 4: and that's why people tuned in because any get the 872 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 4: whole any given Saturday, I know it's any given Sunday, 873 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 4: any given Saturday. If your top team loses, they're done. 874 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 4: And so you're taking that element out of it. It'll 875 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 4: make it'll make college football less enjoyable. But also you're 876 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 4: also setting up for just bad football. Yes, you just 877 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 4: said it that it was only it was a twelve. 878 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 3: It was twelve last year, and it was bad football 879 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 3: with the twelve. So imagine if you go to twenty eight. 880 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to. I don't want to 881 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 3: watch that. 882 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: You're not because you're here's the thing you're bringing in 883 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: twenty eight teams. It's not as if you're bringing the 884 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: best teams. No, you're gonna have probably twenty bad, maybe 885 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: eighteen bad teams, five pretty good, and then five really good, 886 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: and you're gonna get them all mixed matched in this 887 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: one because they happen to win the champions and you 888 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: get and then you're gonna get a bunch of blots. 889 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 3: And we just had that. 890 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: I just told you the average margin of victory was 891 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: twenty yep. So now it's not as if you're getting me, 892 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 1: these games are gonna be good. And if you want 893 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: to use the March Madness equation, we love the Cinderella 894 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: a little bit, but we ultimately get the powerhouses. 895 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 4: We're getting Dukes, the Yukons and North Carolina's yeah, and 896 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 4: you know, the the Gonzagas or something that's we're getting 897 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 4: the blue bloods in there, and that's what we're getting, 898 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 4: and we're gonna ultimately get the same teams and the 899 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 4: college football playoff team at the end of it all. 900 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 4: And March Madness is totally different because it's five players 901 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 4: on the court. One guy can go off in the 902 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 4: game and steal you a game. We're in football. It 903 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 4: just doesn't work that way. You're not beating Ohio State. 904 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 4: If you're you know, you're some bad team. 905 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: No, No, Kansas is not beating Alabama. 906 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 4: You went Kansas. You just threw Kansas out there. I 907 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 4: did throw under the bus. Well, they got the basketball 908 00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 4: side stick with that. 909 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 3: Okay. 910 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: So this idea that yeah, let's just make it twenty 911 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: eight teams. We'll get seven and you'll get seven and 912 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: the rest of y'all fighting for your life. 913 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the crazy part. 914 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: And what they're trying to do carry is keep the 915 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 1: hope alive for a little team that you know, oh man, 916 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: you got a chance to do something you don't and 917 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: it can maybe be a payday for these other teams. Right, 918 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: you got to because if you mess around, and uh 919 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: there's also Ryan correct me if I'm wrong. The way 920 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 1: it's going to work is a lot of teams will 921 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: get home field advantage. 922 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 3: It's not going to be like a lot of neutral sites. 923 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 3: So you got to So. 924 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 1: If you're a smaller school and you get a game 925 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: or two, that's a big that's a big money for 926 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: those schools. We got an extra couple of playoff games 927 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: that we can charge big money for parking and concessions. 928 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: And sure, mess around and make seven, eight, ten million 929 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: a game or whatever the number would be for these games. 930 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: You know, sure that's great for them, but ultimately the 931 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: quality of the football is going to be horrible. And again, 932 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,240 Speaker 1: it's just rewarding mediocrity for teams that we have higher 933 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: expectations for. If you're Georgia and you lose three or four, 934 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: Alabama lose three or four, Yeah, we don't necessarily that 935 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: we have high expectations for you Michigan, right, and you 936 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: can't just oh man, I lost four or five games 937 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 1: and I got a shot like, no, the season should 938 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: be over for you, and we'll see you next year. 939 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 4: Recruit better, get better schematics and play the better quarterback, 940 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 4: and we'll see you next fall and get more money 941 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 4: and get more bread. Throw that in there, because that's 942 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 4: that's this is the new that you forgot. Give money, 943 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 4: the new college, will get more money, go get some 944 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 4: better play exactly that part, because you know they'll be 945 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 4: available because God, by God forbid you stick around. They 946 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 4: were just talking, Oh my gosh, who's the man the 947 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 4: quarterback who was behind? 948 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 2: Uh? 949 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 1: Who was the quarterback that was supposed to be next 950 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: up when Caleb left? Looked that up for me real quick. 951 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: Ryan forgot his name. 952 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 4: Miler Moss. Miler Moss was Miler Ross Moss was at USA. Yeah, yeah, 953 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 4: but I think he actually got this spot, but looking 954 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 4: up for it. So they did the whole thing on 955 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 4: breakdown of how where this kid is now? And he 956 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 4: just kept transferring and leaving schools, and he was the 957 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 4: number one in his class and then he's number two, 958 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 4: and now he's like the five hundre than thirteenth ranked 959 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 4: player in college football. 960 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: And my point is I always use it as man. 961 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm all for look these kids being able to have 962 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: power over their lives because because coaches can look you 963 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: in your eye and being your mom and daddy living room. 964 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna leave. I'm here with them to the end. 965 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: First thing smoking. Hey, it's your agent. They offered you 966 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: an extra five hundred thousand a year. We out right, 967 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: First thing, First thing smoking. So I do love the 968 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 1: idea that these players can have more power and control 969 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: of their their their lives. But what I don't like 970 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 1: is you not having the the wear a thought to 971 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: understand sometimes the best situation is there and you just 972 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: might have to outplay somebody. 973 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 3: You might have to beat somebody out. 974 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: You might Hey, I knew I was supposed to be 975 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: the starting cornerback, not quarter corner it sports starting dB. 976 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 3: But this other kid is balling instead. What do they do? 977 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 3: They keep transferring. 978 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: Then you go to small school just because you can start, 979 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,919 Speaker 1: and it's like, all right, but you're not playing the best, 980 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: You're not nobody's challenging you not to. Dude, you might 981 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: have to work in Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, these two. 982 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 3: But you start for your junior and senior year. That's 983 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 3: all you give me a beast, that's all you need. 984 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,720 Speaker 1: What you need is that one year and a half 985 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: on film and you can be a top whatever pick 986 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 1: and get in the league. 987 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 3: But all new starting. I'm transferring, right. 988 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: And then you go to the other school and you 989 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: do start, but you don't like the coaches approach. I'm transferring. 990 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: That's the thing I don't like. If it's a real 991 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: situation that you know, you would feel the need, great, 992 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: but I don't like the idea. 993 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 3: Things didn't go my way. I don't like it. I'm transferring. 994 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 4: Sometimes the best version of you is getting better and 995 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 4: realizing I'm not as good as I thought, and I 996 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 4: got to push through. 997 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: And you have years to do. It's not like you 998 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 1: got one year. Get better. Man up, young man up, 999 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: preach outwork this dude. Yeah no, I'm everybody's just transferring, going, 1000 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Yo, that doesn't mean you're gonna be 1001 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 1: better just because you put on some good take because 1002 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: you went to Wichita State and with the best defensive 1003 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: back there. 1004 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 3: Don't run from the grind. 1005 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 4: Ever, those be the wisest words you ever hear, don't 1006 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 4: run from the grind. I mean I had similar situation 1007 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 4: like that in college myself. I came in as a 1008 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 4: as a college quarterback, and for me to get playing 1009 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 4: time on the field, the coach is like, you're gonna 1010 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 4: have to switch the safety and I was like, nope, 1011 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 4: I'm out the same mentality at first. My dad was like, no, no, no, 1012 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 4: you're not running from the grind. You're gonna You're gonna 1013 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 4: stay here. You can do anything they ask you to do. 1014 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 4: You're talented enough. Like he gave me that confidence and 1015 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 4: was like, no, you face, you don't. As a man, 1016 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 4: you do not run from your commitment. I made the 1017 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 4: commitment to come to Louisville. So you're here, you're in 1018 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 4: the building, you got the scholarship, you do the work, 1019 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 4: put my head down grind. Didn't run from the grind, 1020 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 4: and here it is now like I completed the task, 1021 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And it. 1022 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: Had a good pro career. Good career there obviously was 1023 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,399 Speaker 1: turned into a good pro career. And so yeah, that's 1024 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,280 Speaker 1: my thing. I'm not saying you have to stay somewhere 1025 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: if it's a horrible situation, but the idea that a 1026 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: minute it doesn't go my way. I'm anna bell. I'm 1027 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 1: not a fan of that right because all of us. 1028 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't care what field of work you're in. You 1029 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 1: got to push through. You gotta push through, man, you 1030 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 1: gotta go through it. You got a boss. I ain't 1031 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: believing in you. You got to make them believe you. 1032 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,439 Speaker 1: Got to co work. It has been hard. I ain't 1033 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: show them what's up. Put them hands on that color. 1034 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you heard me? Right next to me too, he's close. 1035 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:12,959 Speaker 3: He's close enough. 1036 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:13,359 Speaker 2: You heard. 1037 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 4: You must sit in here with me and Rob every 1038 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 4: now and again we want to put hands on Rob. 1039 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 4: I want the lottoed up the ticket. I don't run 1040 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 4: no grind. 1041 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: There you go like the lotto though, that's what it is. 1042 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: Then they say that the odds are you gonna be 1043 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 1: broken like a handful of heads? 1044 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 3: What they say? Because I like the grind? Yeah, good point.