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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to our number two of the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio and Matt Top of the Hour here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's dude's time for another mock draft.

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Speaker 3: They our last one really before we have some free

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Speaker 3: agency change. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Man, we may not do any mock drafts next week.

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Speaker 3: I would say Monday is not even worth it, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because stuff is going to happen. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Wednesday will be a flurry too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Maybe get back at it Friday.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll have plenty of stuff to talk about here.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna well, we're gonna do is go back to

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Speaker 3: a pro football focus here. Good.

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Speaker 2: I believe they've adjusted some of this stuff. So I

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Speaker 2: don't expect Jade Daniels to be Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's it. That's I would just hit restart. If he's

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Speaker 3: sitting there, I think that's crazy. I mean sometimes he

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Speaker 3: goes in the teams, so what I just.

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Speaker 2: Wanted to be gone. He should not be available, and

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Speaker 2: we're picking at twenty.

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Speaker 4: I'm getting impression he's like a lock.

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Speaker 3: At two.

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Speaker 2: He was my number one quarterback now, and he did

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Speaker 2: the rankings earlier this week.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a big commander.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a really really good prospect.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, he can't be available twenty, he cannot be available.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the picture in and the guy's available to us,

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Speaker 2: a pictur right ahead of us at sixteen. The Seahawks

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Speaker 2: took Verse seventeen, the Jaguars took Fuaga at eighteen, The

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Speaker 2: Bengals took Latham at nineteen. The Rams take Fashanu.

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Speaker 3: Wow. A little bit of run here, a little run.

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Speaker 2: On the tackles there. And so we are up at

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Speaker 2: twenty and the top players available Terry and Arnold.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, I mean that it's not insane.

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Speaker 2: No, he didn't run super he's I think he's a

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Speaker 2: better football player than he is an athlete.

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Speaker 3: And he's a little more lot And you know, I

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Speaker 3: could see someone liking Mitchell better.

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Speaker 2: Or I can play him in the slot, I can

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Speaker 2: play him outside. That's actually actually makes them more attractive

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Speaker 3: I mean, I bet on a board or two not mine,

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Speaker 3: Wiggans would be ahead of him just because he's an

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Speaker 3: outside speed merchant. You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if Arnold's a much tougher player for the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: He'd be my number one. He would be Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: would take him over Mitchell. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he is a tough guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Uh so he's available active Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Jackson Powers Johnson available, Okay? Lay two available? Are Marius

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Speaker 2: Mims available?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: Graham Barton, Tyler Newman, Peyton Wilson, Brian Thomas, JJ McCarthy, Tyler, Geiton,

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Speaker 3: We have seven.

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Speaker 4: I don't think McCarthy has had any chance to be there,

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Speaker 4: but that's fine.

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Speaker 3: We have seven trade offers. I'm always seven.

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Speaker 4: Arnold would be my pick though, of the guys you the.

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Speaker 2: Top team, the team with the highest pick here on

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Speaker 2: the phone is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at twenty six.

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Speaker 3: That's sound awful. There were a handful of names there.

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Speaker 3: I'm still interested in.

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Speaker 2: This is our crazy, this our Friday mark, so we

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Speaker 2: could do whatever we want.

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Speaker 3: We can trade crazy in this one. No lemon, all right,

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Speaker 3: no limit trades. So I'm I'm interested to talk to

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Speaker 3: the box the other teams on the on the phone,

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Speaker 3: or the Kansas City at thirty two, Tennessee at thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: I'm not even let's on the phone at seventy five.

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Speaker 3: Come on, Chicago, what are you throwing.

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Speaker 4: Next year's first and field players?

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Speaker 3: All kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Tampa Bay, let's see what we can do

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Speaker 2: with Tampa Bay. So obviously twenty six will being played.

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Speaker 2: They want twenty Can we get fifty eight? It's a

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Speaker 2: thirty two percent chance that they would take they would

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Speaker 4: What if we threw in one of those fours?

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Speaker 2: Let's see if I'll do it with one ninety eight

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Speaker 2: would make it a thirty nine percent chance.

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Speaker 3: You want to roll with ice and then go back

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Speaker 3: to driving work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see if they take Now they didn't take that, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we can. We can sweeten the pot there. But if

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Speaker 2: I give up one twenty one, which is be the

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Speaker 2: one that I would trade in that situation, I want

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Speaker 2: a little kicker.

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Speaker 3: I want a little kicker too, Yeah, your fifth or something.

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Speaker 3: Let's move from seven to five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So if we go twenty six and fifty eight

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Speaker 2: for twenty and one to twenty one mm hmm in

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Speaker 2: next year's fifth, that has a forty eight percent chance

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Speaker 4: Instead of next year's fifth. Though, what if we got

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Speaker 4: their fifth this year, and we gave them our seventh.

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Speaker 4: So we go one four to seven for one.

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Speaker 3: Two five. They don't have a fifth round pack. Oh

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Speaker 3: that's the problem. Okay, yeah, that's definitely problem.

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Speaker 2: What let's go a four next year.

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Speaker 3: We've got two fifths.

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Speaker 2: I don't want three fifths fifth, I'll give you the

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Speaker 2: rams fifth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that gives us a complete fifty to fifty chance

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Speaker 2: of being excepted.

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Speaker 3: Let's submit it. They accepted that, okay, so we got

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Speaker 3: twenty six fifty eight.

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Speaker 2: We got their fourth round pick next year for our

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Speaker 2: fifth round pick next year as well, twenty one twenty.

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Speaker 3: That's probably about a thirty pick swap. You know something

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Speaker 3: up you know.

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Speaker 2: Well there's some comp picks involved there as well, more

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Speaker 2: than that.

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Speaker 3: So I may have done it without the next year stuff.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's pretty fair.

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Speaker 2: You get fifty sixty spots, I'm going up seventy's Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I say that's nice.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're going to resume here.

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Speaker 2: Who do they come? They come up to get a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: They came up to get Peyton Wilson. Oh good, yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, So then it was Peyton Wilson, Terry and

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Speaker 2: Arnold went twenty one.

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Speaker 3: That didn't I think that when we did the trade down,

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Speaker 3: I figured he's a long wing.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Nuban went at twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Good, Yeah, I might like him, but good.

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Speaker 2: Graham Barton went at twenty three. Fine, Jackson Powers Johnson

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Speaker 2: went at twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Lay two went at twenty five. So Mims is still

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Speaker 2: on the board. Brian Thomas is still on the board. Wow,

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy still on the board. Tyler Geiton still on

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Speaker 2: the board. Lab McConkie, I love Lat mcconay, Zach Frazier,

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Speaker 2: Donnie Mitchell, bo Nicks, Troy Franklin. We still we have

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Speaker 2: seven more trade offers, Matt who is on the phone.

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Speaker 2: This is ought to be a team winning to come

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Speaker 2: up with. So it's the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: I was coming from accarthy.

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Speaker 3: But maybe did they take in the first I bet

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Speaker 3: they didn't take They took Marvin Harrison, So they're coming

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Speaker 3: up for a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So if that's the case.

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Speaker 4: So they're talking about you better give me.

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Speaker 3: Some serious stuff. If you're coming up the quarterback, would

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Speaker 3: a future pick from them? I'm trading up into the.

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Speaker 2: Out of the first round to get to do this.

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Speaker 4: If we stuck I would want Thomas or Mimsy.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't fight you on either one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but if they vanished, I'm not gonna cry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So if we go thirty four, let's just see

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Speaker 2: what we can get out of there. Twenty six. Their

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Speaker 2: next pick is at sixty eight. Obviously I want that.

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Speaker 2: They're saying there's a twenty forty seven percent chance that

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Speaker 3: I didn't know if that would be enough, given me

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Speaker 3: a second.

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Speaker 2: And a third for a first.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh, I'm not doing that. I mean we're going

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Speaker 3: back what six picks.

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Speaker 2: Going back eight spots, but I'm losing that year of

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Speaker 2: that fifty year of option.

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Speaker 3: On the sky.

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Speaker 4: I mean their third is really early.

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Speaker 2: You're coming up for a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's not a deal for me. I

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Speaker 3: don't think Mems or Thomas would be there. No, they're

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Speaker 3: not trading up for Thomas, but he's not gonna still

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Speaker 3: be there. No. If I don't do this, then I'm

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Speaker 3: then I'm looking at I'd be hopeful that mconkie would

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Speaker 4: I think I stick and take one of these two guys.

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Speaker 2: Which when do you like better? Mems or Thomas. They're

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Speaker 2: both really good.

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Speaker 3: Products, really really high upside for both of them. I

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Speaker 3: think the tackle is the bigger need, but I could

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Speaker 3: be persuaded for either. I think they're Since we traded down, let's.

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Speaker 2: Look and see what's still available at tackle and then

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Speaker 2: what's still I think wide receiver will be deeper. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so Mems is still there, Guidan is still there, Morgan

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Speaker 3: Uh, I find the Morgan interests me. It didn't tackle

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Speaker 3: Sethia does Yelle off?

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Speaker 2: Blake Fisher is still there, Patrick Paul.

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Speaker 4: So, I mean, receiver is going to be better?

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Speaker 3: Is really good?

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Speaker 2: We get fifty two and fifty eight, it's a good

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Speaker 2: chance we'll get one of those guys.

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Speaker 3: Corner receiver is gonna be nice in the fifties, it

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Speaker 3: will be tackle might be okay.

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Speaker 2: But Thomas is Thomas is.

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Speaker 4: Really a star, really attractive, like a in a lot.

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Speaker 2: In some drafts, Thomas will be the number one wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he lasts a twenty six. I don't

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Speaker 3: think he does either, but here he is in this because.

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Speaker 2: There was a run on some of the tackles and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a preference of those two? I really

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Speaker 3: won't fight you on either. There's nobody else in the

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Speaker 3: conversation for me.

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Speaker 2: So Thomas McConkie and Donnie Mitchell, Troy Franklin, Roman Wilson,

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Speaker 2: Rickey pearsall.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good. But they're gonna go quick too.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna go quick too. I mean to me, Thomas

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Speaker 2: stands way out above those guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean touchdown, Oh I think yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: he imagine how that's the beauty. He doesn't even have

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Speaker 3: to He could be a raw player for a little

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Speaker 3: while too. Who cares No. Him and mem are very

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Speaker 3: similar that way. I mean they have massive upside there,

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Speaker 3: maybe the two of the top three talented players their positions.

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Speaker 3: They haven't done it real long. I love them both.

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Speaker 3: Then we have extra picks.

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Speaker 2: We have extra picks.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to do Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking here. I don't hate it.

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Speaker 3: I mean both are. I'm thrilled with it to be

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Speaker 3: a twenty six and either one of those guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: They're both of my top twenty.

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Speaker 3: Well, they've flew by there. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So we want receivers, yeah right, yeah, we wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Jenkins, Jayden Hicks. The Eagles are one o'clock.

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Speaker 3: I hit that thing almost immediately it's impossible, and we're

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Speaker 4: Trading up I think just forget about trading up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not going to trade UW. So we're back

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Speaker 3: Yeah, would I knew there'd be a receiver liked, but

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Speaker 2: So Sue Mattia is still there.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's very attractive to me. Yeah, that was the

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Speaker 3: one that was keeping my fingers crossed on.

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Speaker 2: We do have two trade offers. Roman Wilson is their

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Speaker 2: Javon Bullard, Jonah Ellis or or Hero.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that wouldn't be terrible.

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Speaker 2: Keon Coleman, Kyrie Jackson.

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Speaker 3: We picked soon though, right, Yeah, we got fifty two

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Speaker 2: Okay, uh, Yale Tackle Neeland, Jalen Polk, Edgrian Cooper, Xavier Legette,

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Speaker 3: I'm falling in love with lyget by the way, Junior Coulson,

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Speaker 3: but we don't want look at anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Spencer Rattler, Xavi, you're worthy. Who's on the phone.

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Speaker 3: I'm listening to offers? But BYU tackle is gonna be

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the forty nine ers are on the phone, Okay,

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Speaker 2: there probably why there at sixty three?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's too far, that's too far.

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Speaker 2: That's too far. So you want to draft the player

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Speaker 2: I do you want to take.

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Speaker 3: A sea Mattiah Yep, yep, yep. He is really athletic.

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Speaker 3: He's really athletic.

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Speaker 2: Is a multiple piece of clay.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't have to play week one either.

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Speaker 2: He could be my move tight end on Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: Could be six though lineman, yeah right away. Maybe he

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Speaker 3: He's really talented.

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Speaker 2: Boom souemtie is the pick. All right, we're back up here.

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Speaker 2: So the picks between us, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, you know, I like Mems a lot, but he

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Speaker 3: didn't seem at tire aren't that much different? Not a

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Speaker 3: lot of difference than their profile.

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Speaker 2: Bullard went, Roman, Wilson went, a Hero went, Ellis went,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks went.

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Speaker 4: Okay, there were two linebackers still, Cooper are that was interesting.

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Speaker 2: We have four trade offers, all right? On the phone

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Speaker 2: is Kansas City? They pick at sixty four?

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Speaker 4: What numbers is like, we're fifty eighth.

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Speaker 3: That's not bad.

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Speaker 2: Uh so they're they're sixty four? Who else is on

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Speaker 2: the phone? You get the Chargers sixty nine, the Packers

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Speaker 2: at eighty eight, and the Titans at one oh seven. Okay,

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Speaker 2: the top players available Keon Coleman, Kyrie Jackson, Yale Ty Tackle,

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Speaker 2: Marshawn Neeland, Jalen Polk, Edgeran Cooper, Lagette, Christian Haynes, Junior Colson.

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Speaker 3: Those two linebackers are certainly attractive. Yeah, corner can you

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Speaker 3: sort by corner? It seems like they're starting to dry up?

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Speaker 3: Like his Melton still there? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Are you looking at cornerback here? Kyrie Jackson, Andrew Phillips, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Lenardo Green, Jerry and Jones, Max Melton is still there,

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Speaker 2: DJ James, Chris Abrams, dra and Jarvis Brownlee cam Hart,

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Speaker 2: Elijah Jones. I mean there's some dudes there.

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Speaker 4: I'm comfortable moving back to Casey neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: I think we'll get one if we want, we can

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Speaker 3: get one of the two corners or one of the

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Speaker 3: two line back one of the two linebackers. Yeah, any of

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Speaker 3: those would make me happy. Yeah, but we better do

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Speaker 3: corners soon if we don't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've made two picks with that.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what they'll Let's see what they'll give us

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Speaker 2: here Kansas City sixty four fifty eight.

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Speaker 3: Their next pick is at ninety five. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if they would give us that one.

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Speaker 4: We we definitely want dump that seventh rounder.

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Speaker 3: Thirty chance that would happen. What if we gave him

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Speaker 3: a seventh and the next year sixth or something. That's

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Speaker 3: where I'm the seventh pushing it to a thirty five

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Speaker 3: percent chance they would accept.

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Speaker 4: You want something better than this garbagejumps.

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Speaker 2: Out, I'll offer and just see I didn't dig it.

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Speaker 3: And a future pick because we got expers in two

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Speaker 3: thirty eight, we get to we have what we have

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Speaker 3: next year is did we get a fourth from ten.

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Speaker 2: For our trades? We got a one to two, A three,

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Speaker 2: two fourths because we traded one of our fifth for five,

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Speaker 2: we get a five and a seven.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't get us real far. No, okay, well, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean they also they have one thirty three. I'm sure yeah,

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Speaker 2: they would do fifty eight. They would do sixty four

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Speaker 2: and one thirty three for fifty eight and two thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: One chance.

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Speaker 2: So that's where we might be able to get.

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Speaker 3: Why don't we milk a future pick out of them

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Speaker 2: They would give us their four next year. Eighty one

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Speaker 2: percent chance that's accepted.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm doing that trade.

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Speaker 2: So then we would have three fours next year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's bad. Yeah, that could be very useful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah all right, I'm.

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Speaker 4: In on that.

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Speaker 3: I mean because one of those defensive players except yeah,

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Speaker 3: they accepted that. I don't mind me back six here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's we jumped up one hundred spots yeah,

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Speaker 2: we went from two thirty eight to one thirty three

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Speaker 3: That's very meaningful. I would say we moved up on

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Speaker 3: one hundred spots in next year's draft capital too. Yeah

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Speaker 3: throughout the course of this yeah, segment, but.

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Speaker 2: Moving up one hundred spots in this year's draft monster huge.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be out of that bottom nonsense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that worked out well.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so the picks were they came up to

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Speaker 3: get key On Coleman, which that makes it move for them.

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Speaker 3: That'd be super smart.

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Speaker 2: Get Yale tackle neland Jaylen pol Kyrie Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Those exactly we wanted to go.

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Speaker 2: Top player available, Edgar and Cooper.

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Speaker 3: When do we pick again?

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Speaker 2: We are back then at eighty four, so twenty picks,

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Speaker 2: one of those corners will be there. I feel pretty.

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Speaker 3: Considable with that. Melton is one of my faves. I

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Speaker 3: understand that. But Cooper Cooper is the best linebacker in

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Speaker 3: the draft. Yeah, take him.

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Speaker 2: You have one trade offer. It's Denver at seventy six.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to Cooper to me, is is no.

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Speaker 2: I think we're pretty happy.

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Speaker 3: I think it takes. He's still floating around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, Cooper's to pick.

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Speaker 3: I mean if you signed a linebacker. Yeah, okay, we

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Speaker 3: of mat. This is gonna be tough, all right. So

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Speaker 3: we got trade offers. Seven of themis seven.

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Speaker 2: You got Jacksonville ninety six is the highest, and you

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Speaker 2: get the Giants at one o eight, the Falcons at

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Speaker 2: one ten, Denver at one fourteen, and everybody else is

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Speaker 2: after that.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The top players available to us Michael Pratt, to Andre Sweat,

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Speaker 2: Cameron Kinchins, Jeremiah Trotter, Ronardo Green, Ceder Van Pran, Blake Corham,

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Speaker 2: Mason McCormick, Calen Bullock, Jerry and Jones, Bucky Irving, Dadrian Tyler, Demson, Marriss,

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Speaker 2: Leo Leof Who SIONI VACKI, Ray Davis. Thanks Mountain.

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Speaker 3: I was just saying, sweats gonuld be hard to pass up.

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Speaker 3: But I think Meltain's a gift.

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Speaker 2: I just can't disagree with you.

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Speaker 3: I can take them the We've been at a new corner

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Speaker 3: now because I'm having a hard time sleeping right.

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Speaker 4: Now with her.

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Speaker 2: Got to add something to the secondary. I might add two.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't have objected that at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Mountain wore another safety, Mountains a pick.

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Speaker 3: At eighty four.

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Speaker 4: I'm still looking d line Yep.

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Speaker 3: That's a tough passing on to Bundery. It was that late.

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Speaker 3: But the fact that Meltain was still available, if it

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Speaker 3: I'll think about it the Mountain. Okay that when we.

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Speaker 2: Are back up at one twenty and we have no

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Speaker 3: So we have a receiver, yeah, a tackle, yeah, a

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So at one twenty top players available as

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Speaker 4: Would interest it. He's a different type of d back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Trey Benson, Leonard Taylor, the other edge rusher out

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Speaker 2: of Alabama because name I can't pronounce it, Malik Washington,

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Speaker 2: Christian Jones, Mohammed Kamara, the edge rusher from Colorado State,

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Speaker 2: Chow Smith Wade the cornerback from Washington.

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Speaker 3: State, Masson Smith there by chance.

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Speaker 2: Not seeing him, Braylan Allen, McKinley, Jackson, Kayln Carson, will Shipley,

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Speaker 2: Isaac Garundo, Cedric Gray still available, Josh Newton, it's bad,

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Speaker 2: that's not bad, like the McKai wingle. Misson Smith is

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Speaker 2: still available.

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Speaker 4: Would you take him over like a Tykee Smith or

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Speaker 4: those early d backs we mentioned? I think I would.

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Speaker 2: Let me see what's available here at safety. How's that looking?

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Speaker 2: It's Tyke Smith, Bo Brady, Malik, Mustafa, James Williams. That

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Speaker 3: First, some good runglings about Mustapha lately. I haven't done

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Speaker 2: I have too. Yeah, not a bad football player at corner.

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Speaker 2: You're still looking at Wade Smith, Kayln Carson, Josh Newton,

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Speaker 2: Kayln King, Dwight mclothin Neamyah Pritchett, Taylor still so that's

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Speaker 2: starting to dry up. And defensive tackles we have we

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Speaker 2: pick again at one thirty three year, so we're kind

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Speaker 2: of rolling the dice, which this is one twenty. Leonard

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Speaker 2: Taylor is still there, McKinley, Jackson, Christian Boyd, McKay, Wingo, Myson, Smith,

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Speaker 2: Logan Lee, Logan Lee had.

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Speaker 3: A good car. My vote is Smith and then Chiswood

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Speaker 3: and Stone. Best defensive back available.

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Speaker 2: Massan Smith is a very interesting good steeler.

444
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Speaker 3: Yeah all right, Massan Smith is I was.

445
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 2: I just wrote those guys up last night and the

446
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,399
Speaker 2: thing that I didn't So, yeah, his his freshman years,

447
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 2: he's a top five or he's a five star coming

448
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,640
Speaker 2: in one of the top defensive line recruits in the country.

449
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 2: First seven games of his freshman year, true freshman like,

450
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 2: he had four or five sacks in.

451
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 3: The first first seven games.

452
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,120
Speaker 2: Injures his shoulder, ye misses the rest of the year,

453
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 2: comes back plays the first game of his sophomore year,

454
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 2: blows his knee out. So last year he's coming back

455
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 2: off of that was okay coming off, but he'll be

456
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,360
Speaker 2: two years removed from k the injury.

457
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 3: As a rookie. He's got all kinds of talent. This

458
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Speaker 3: is just hearing people talk on podcasts and things, but

459
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 3: several I've heard said his last three games were his

460
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 3: best last year, like he started to look like the

461
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 3: freshman guy. Yeah, finally he was a stud as a freshman, right,

462
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 3: and if you can get that version, that's the first

463
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Speaker 3: round pick.

464
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean your doctors would be involved.

465
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 2: Definitely worth the Yeah. Yeah, we just missed on Josh Newton.

466
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Speaker 3: He went to the Ravens at one is Tikey Smith there?

467
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 2: Still, let's let's take a look here. So it's safety.

468
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Speaker 2: I'm like, put up corners and see.

469
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I just want best defensive back. I

470
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 3: don't care if he's six 'y to two or slot.

471
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 2: So we got Charles Smith, Wade McKinley. Am I getting

472
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: defensive Smith? Wade's all right, cornerback and.

473
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 3: Safety? Give me safety? There we go?

474
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 2: Uh, Charles Smith, Wade, Kayln Carson Kayln King spelled differently.

475
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: Bo Brady Malik Mustafa, James Williams, White mclothin me and

476
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: my approach at Jalen Simpson.

477
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 3: James Williams really isn't a defensive back.

478
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 2: No, he's a one transition macker. Yeah, I'm looking here.

479
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 3: Miss Stapha. We're getting the D back neighborhood where I

480
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 3: need to know more? Y, I don't know as enough

481
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 3: as i'm smith. Wade's okay, Yeah, yeah he tested well,

482
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,679
Speaker 3: didn't he Yeah, five eleven, one seventy six.

483
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 2: He could be a little bigger, kayln Carson. I think

484
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 2: he's a little Yeah, he's six one one ninety five.

485
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: More of a zone type guy though, Yeah, he runs

486
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 2: real well.

487
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 4: I mean if he's an outside guy, he might have

488
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 4: a hard time making the team.

489
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 2: Played some inside, but yeah, he might have a tough time.

490
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 3: How about if we don't go D back, I mean

491
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 3: we just said Chisel and Sow and it's gonna be

492
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 3: a D back. But whether if there's a quarterback we

493
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 3: like or yeah, we should probably take a look at that. Yeah,

494
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 3: let's let's see. We do have a trade off for

495
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 3: a center we like. We do have a trade offer here,

496
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 3: Ordolini's there, who's on the phone. Washington, who picks at

497
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 3: one thirty eight is on the phone.

498
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Speaker 4: Okay, I wouldn't mind a future pick from those guys.

499
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't mind that either.

500
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 2: Let's just take a look here at the center and

501
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 2: quarterback positions. Quarterback, you're looking at Austin Reed, Joe Milton,

502
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 2: h Tackle Vloa, Carter Bradley, Sam Hartman, keith On Slovas,

503
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 2: Devin Leary.

504
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I get the Milton the lore, but rarely

505
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 4: does he throw the football and it goes to a teammate, you.

506
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 3: Know what I mean? Like, yeah, he says a complete

507
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 3: many packs and he's got the big arm.

508
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 2: But I think I think he completed like twenty eight

509
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: percent of his throws down the field last year. He

510
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: I mean like he just throws it out there and hopes,

511
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: they hope.

512
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 4: And wow, not many people can do that. But he's

513
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Speaker 4: a complete be Any gain.

514
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: The ideas and you just throw the football as far

515
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 2: as you can.

516
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: If you remember from Hendon Hooker last year too, that's

517
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 3: a really weird offense too.

518
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 4: I mean it's going to take him a while.

519
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, I don't.

520
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 3: I mean I get that he's big and attractive and

521
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 3: throw him. So this is interesting. Man Zack Center is available.

522
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 4: Ooh, that's a great one. Just red shirt.

523
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: I mean I I don't even know if you'll have

524
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 2: the red shirt, but who knows, who knows? I mean,

525
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 2: he's just starting guard, one of your starting guards next year.

526
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 4: I mean, if you looked at way too early lists before.

527
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Speaker 3: The call of season, he's the first round z Enter

528
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: and Mason Smith the first round pair.

529
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Speaker 2: He was Michigan's best lineman last year before breaking his left.

530
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the best line in the league. And they're

531
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Speaker 3: going to have six linemen drafted this year. Yeah, I

532
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 3: think you do it right. James Daniel's up. I mean

533
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 3: I think Herbig's up too again, right, Yeah, he's probably

534
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 3: a two year deal. Yeah, you just take don't know

535
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,959
Speaker 3: if he's a guard only or not. I haven't studied him,

536
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 3: but he's he's a really good guard. Yeah. No, I

537
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: think that's it. All right. We're back up here now.

538
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 3: With all the trading down we did, I mean, our

539
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 3: needs kind of evaporated.

540
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so we're up at one ninety eight. This

541
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: is our final pick.

542
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 4: We have three trade offers though, I'm so interested in safety.

543
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 2: Safety, quarterback, center, center, if there's somebody there.

544
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I can with the list offers too.

545
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 2: Quarterback, let's go interior offensive line, let's go safety.

546
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: In the corner. Say, slot wouldn't be terrible either.

547
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: Okay, so the top players available, just looking at that,

548
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: Hunter Norsad the center at of Penn State State JV

549
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: and Cohen Tanner BORDERLINI.

550
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,239
Speaker 4: Oh, I think that's hard to pass up.

551
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Omar Brown the safety at Nebraska, Johnny Dixon, it's

552
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: kind of a slot type out of Penn State. Josh

553
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 2: yah Day Kwon Hardy another slot type out of Penn State.

554
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: They both they move those guys around a little bit.

555
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: Dylan McMahon the center at the NC State, Miles Harden

556
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: Trade Taylor A J.

557
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: Woods. You kind of sold me at Bortolini, I think Bordelini. Yeah,

558
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: he also can play some guard. But I mean we're

559
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: drafting three linemen that maybe don't even start this year,

560
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 3: but might all start next year. Yeah, I mean, which

561
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 3: I am not complaining about at all. I mean they're

562
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: all athletic dudes, and I think that's a pick unless

563
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 3: you want to take eventure of the trade down.

564
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 2: I already okay, yeah, I already took borderline.

565
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah in Wisconsin, Wisconsin Center does that's a supreme athlete, right,

566
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: sign me up.

567
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 4: Okay, so it's an interesting one. We were quite active.

568
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: We came out of this. We made our We traded down.

569
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 2: I got a future fifth from Tampa to move down

570
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: to twenty six, and we took Brian Thomas at twenty six.

571
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: I wonder that's stealing, That is steeling, but we were.

572
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: We really flipped a coin with him and Mims. You

573
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: wonder what the path would have looked like, because every

574
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: pick would have been different, of course, you know, but

575
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 3: I always like to think of that.

576
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: We then took it fifty two Kingsley Sua Mattia.

577
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 3: I don't think any chance he's there either. Yeah, that late. Uh.

578
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: Then we traded back again. Uh, we were supposed to

579
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 2: be at fifty eight if I remember, Yeah, they're just

580
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 2: in front of me.

581
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

582
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: So we got a future fourth rounder from Kansas City

583
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: and we drafted Edgaran Cooper at sixty four.

584
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 3: Nice. Nice those guys.

585
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: Then we took Max Melton at eighty four.

586
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it made me sleep a little better.

587
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 2: Massan Smith at one twenty.

588
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 4: Okay, hopefully it works out, but if it doesn't, it

589
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 4: doesn't kill you.

590
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: Zach Ziner at one thirty three for tomorrow and Tanner

591
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: Bordolini at one night.

592
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 3: Also could be for tomorrow. Yeah.

593
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: Overall, Gray was a B plus. We got d's on

594
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: Massan Smith and Zack Zenter because we took them ahead

595
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 2: earlier than earlier than they're like, that's the thing. I

596
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: don't care about that.

597
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 4: And what do we do next year? I know, we

598
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 4: traded we came out of that five for four.

599
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: We traded our five for a four we got, we

600
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 2: get we had two fourth round picks as well out

601
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Speaker 2: of this whole.

602
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought so.

603
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we cost us a five. We had two fives.

604
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 2: Now we have three fours.

605
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 3: Yes, it's awesome and once Kansas City's which is probably

606
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 3: gonna be late one's Tampa's, but they're still valuable fours.

607
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now now we have some ability to move

608
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: around next year.

609
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 3: Trade deadline if you need a guy or something like that.

610
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 3: I mean, one of those fours is going to go

611
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 3: do something. Yeah.

612
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 4: I like that. That's a good draft.

613
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 2: No, I like that.

614
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 3: I mean Brian Thomas, Brian Thomas will be a fun play.

615
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: I mean, how much campaign Cooper and Max Melton. Yeah,

616
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 3: I mean Pickens and Thomas having you know, crazy athletic

617
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 3: competitions against each other.

618
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: That's fun. You got some athletes there.

619
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might have the most athletic wide receiver group

620
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: in the league with size, no doubt. That looks like

621
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: a men's volleyball team.

622
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean we got one of the most athletic tackles.

623
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 3: We might have got the most athletic center. There's some

624
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: testers on that list. Yeah, that's a good draft. Now.

625
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 3: I like that one a lot, and I love putting

626
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 3: something in the bank for next year.

627
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

628
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 3: I know you always like that.

629
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Speaker 4: Yeah, collaborate. I can always do something with it, you know.

630
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 2: Anyways, that was our latest mock draft. We're gonna get

631
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Speaker 2: to a break. He is the Matt Williams and I'm

632
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Speaker 2: Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers

633
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Speaker 2: Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this.

634
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Speaker 3: Nice.

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637
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Speaker 3: Welcome back.

639
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Speaker 2: I'm Dale LOLLI. He is the Matt Williamson and Matt

640
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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah who joined us on the show out in

641
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Speaker 2: on these nice visit. Yeah, he has his now updated

642
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: top fifty.

643
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: Okay, coming out of the combine. Okay, I was listening

644
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: to podcast where he teased Dad he was working on

645
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: it and he came out, so.

646
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Speaker 2: It's out there. He stills.

647
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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams number one, I get it, Marvin Harrison number two,

648
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: rote Macdonsday number three.

649
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 4: He's had a crush on a Doomsday since the start.

650
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: I get it. I mean I had no proquems with

651
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: that whatsoever.

652
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has Malik Neighbors four.

653
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: It's pretty strong.

654
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: Drake May five.

655
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: Okay, so Daniels hasn't been Jade and Daniels six. I'm in.

656
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 4: They're the top six in most boards.

657
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: He's brock Bauer seven.

658
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, still get it. I get it.

659
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: Terry and Arnold eight. Over any tackle, over any of

660
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: the tackles, I can't.

661
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 4: Say in that neighborhood. But Arnold's pretty impressive.

662
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: Talisi Fuaga is his number one tackle at nine. How

663
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: about that?

664
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 4: I assumed it would be an Old, but I know he's.

665
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: So he bumped him up a spot and moved all

666
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: down a spot. He is ald at ten, so he

667
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: flipped fluff Lips, I get it. At eleven Dallas Turner, Yeah,

668
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be the FIRSTFEST player off the board.

669
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 2: Probably.

670
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: He's a pass rusher and he tested well and yeah Bama.

671
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: At twelve up five spots, Troy Fatanu.

672
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: He's a tackle, he's a tackling. That's an arm length move. Yeah.

673
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: At thirteen up two spots, Quinnya Mitchell.

674
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: Okay, these are the normal names. But yeah, fourteen holding

675
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: Steadies Verse. Yeah, he did a really good combine too. Yeah.

676
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: At fifteen down three spots is Forshanu.

677
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: Small hands too, Yeah, that's weird. I mean he's not

678
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: a great run blocker. Yeah, and I think part of

679
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: it because he has small hands, can't grab guy. Yeah. Right.

680
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: At sixteen down three spots Latham Okay, I mean I

681
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: think it's more of this everybody else going up around him.

682
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what.

683
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

684
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: At seventeen down a spot, Brian Thomas.

685
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 4: That's who he is. I mean, I think he's a

686
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 4: top twenty player.

687
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. At eighteen up two spots, Lay two Sure. At

688
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: nineteen up three spots Byron Murphy. Yeah, I'm pretty confident

689
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: he's gonna be the first fense tackle off the board. Yeah,

690
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 3: and he won't be a Steeler.

691
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 4: No, hopefully he goes in top nineteen, which I think

692
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 4: is possible.

693
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: At twenty down a spot Amarius Mims.

694
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's most years he's a top three tackle.

695
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: At twenty one, up six spots. JJ McCarthy, I don't know.

696
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: I'd be moving him up, but that part doesn't matter

697
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: to me as much. If you're moving up or down.

698
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: At twenty two to go high, yeah, I think so too.

699
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: He's quarterback twenty two down four spots. Tyler Geiton. Okay,

700
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: there has been a ton of buzz since the Senior Bowl,

701
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: but I haven't really lost confidence in him.

702
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: People expected him to test like crazy, Like crazy didn't happen.

703
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: It was good, not great. Yeah. Yeah at twenty three,

704
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: up a spot, Chop Robinson, Yeah, aguy, And I'm hoping

705
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: he goes on the top nineteen. Yeah.

706
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 2: At twenty four down three spots Edger and Cooper.

707
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: Wow. He had Edgerrin Cooper higher than anybody for months now,

708
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: real close on, real quick on Chop. If Verse and

709
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 3: Turner are gone, that could be the people calling you

710
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: a twenty and go get guy. I mean that's a

711
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: position people will move up.

712
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: For absolutely At twenty five, up eight spots A Donnie Mitchell.

713
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: He's I've not done my receiver ranks, and I know

714
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: who my top four are going to be. They're the

715
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: four that were mentioned. I'm starting to really lean towards him.

716
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 3: At five.

717
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: I still like Leb Maconkey a lot.

718
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: I do too. I'm falling in love with Laget as well. Yeah,

719
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: I mean he looks like a J. Brown shorter though.

720
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but just rocked up and fast and good after catch.

721
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: And twenty six down three spots us Rakestraw.

722
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: Didn't excel at the combine. Yeah, I mean, I don't

723
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: know he's guaranteed to be the first round pick.

724
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: At twenty seven, up seven spots, Graham Barton, I gotta.

725
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: Have him over Rake Straw.

726
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 4: Just a solid prospect.

727
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: At twenty eight, up three spots, Cooper Dejene.

728
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: We don't talk about him anymore. But wrong is a thing, right, Yeah,

729
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: and the media is weird. I mean, I'm sure the

730
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: Steelers draft board has not changed one's bit where Degene

731
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: is good, bad or ugly, But I'd sure like him

732
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: to stay playing in black and gold. Yeah.

733
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: At nine, down three spots, Bo Nicks so.

734
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: Let's say you take it even better. Let's say you

735
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: trade from twenty to twenty five. You take one of

736
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: the tackles and Dejene's still sitting there when the first

737
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 3: round's over, you picked up some extra draft capital and

738
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: moved down. You got two forces already, but you try

739
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: to get to like thirty three thirty four for him,

740
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: I think, and kind of make it a two person draft.

741
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: I think he's a really good could be kind of fun.

742
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you left with Mims and him.

743
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: Or basically what you did is match last year's draft.

744
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 4: Right, you took at the top on a corner.

745
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: I mean, but those positions other than quarterback, that that's

746
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: phenomenal to do it with. Yeah.

747
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: Uh, Nick's at twenty nine, down three spots. Jackson powers

748
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: Johnson at thirty down a spot.

749
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 4: His combine didn't blow your doors off.

750
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. At thirty one, down six spots, Nate Wiggins, I

751
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: think it's a lean this. Yeah, he's skinny, he doesn't

752
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: look like a football player out there, and you know Spandex.

753
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: At thirty two, down four spots.

754
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: Jerson Newton. I don't know why they got a lot

755
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: of move up ahead.

756
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: At thirty three, up five spots.

757
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 3: Michael Pennix. He's off for everybody. But if he's if

758
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: he's protected.

759
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 4: And can sling it, I think he's gonna be a Seahawk.

760
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 4: I mean they signed Washington's yeah, I mean Washington's offense coordinators.

761
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 3: Now they're watfense coordinator.

762
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: At thirty four, up eight spots, lad Mconkey.

763
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's really good. I don't might give him.

764
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: Another The route runner good to me, like he ran fast, yes,

765
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 3: and he's a great route runner.

766
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 4: Like, I mean, he's going to be a good NFL player.

767
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh.

768
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: At thirty five, down three spots, Zach Frasier. Yeah, nothing

769
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: that he did another wrong, right right? The other guy's

770
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: bumped up ahead.

771
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 3: Yah, a little bit of momentum.

772
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: At thirty six, up four spots, Kamari Lassiter.

773
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: He had a good under under the radar, really good

774
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 4: combine too.

775
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 3: Yeah uh. At thirty seven, I'd be real happy to

776
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: see him in the second round. I don't think he'll last.

777
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 2: Up eight spots again. The matching. The biggest run here

778
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: up eight spots is Braden Fisk at thirty seven.

779
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: I understand that he scares me a little bit though,

780
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: as kind of a workout warrior. Yeah, I wouldn't bump

781
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: him up.

782
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: I don't know that he's this SI over this and

783
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: thirty eight down eight spots, Darius Robinson.

784
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 3: I had a bunch of other Robinson I would much rather.

785
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 3: I mean, numbers were better, but Robinson fits the three four.

786
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: I mean the arm length in itself, I think is

787
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 4: the tiebreaker in his favor. Because it's day, we have.

788
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: A new highest riser here up nine spots at thirty

789
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: nine Ricky Pearsoll.

790
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 4: Well, he did tear it up. Would you consider him

791
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 4: in the second round?

792
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, you're just happy he's there and take him absolutely.

793
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 3: I think that's about where he goes maybe earlier. Yeah,

794
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: I mean he's not much different than Maccaon's I was

795
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: just going to say.

796
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: There's not a lot of difference. But they're both about

797
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: the same size. They both ran in the four fours.

798
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 4: Yep, they're not just quick guys, not fast.

799
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: They both run good routes and catch everything.

800
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's wrong with that? Yeah?

801
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: At forty up seven spots, Peyton Wilson.

802
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if the medicals truly are clean, I

803
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: think there's a chance he could be in the first round.

804
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 3: Randy would win.

805
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's six to four, forty one, holding steadies Avier Worthy.

806
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have bumped them massively like some people will.

807
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we knew he was fast.

808
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: At forty two down seven spots, kool aid mckinstrey.

809
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 4: Did Worthy even consider your top five receivers? No, I'm

810
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 4: not sure he make my top ten.

811
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 2: No.

812
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: No, Like all the guys mentioned so far, I like

813
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: to get better. I might like Franklin better.

814
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: You know, mckinstree down seven spots.

815
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he better run better run. Well, if he doesn't,

816
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: then you think about him and he's just steal on

817
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 3: the second round.

818
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, at forty three down six spots, Troy Franklin, did

819
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: he I.

820
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 4: Don't remember his combat. I remember I think he was

821
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: slow four fours.

822
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can check it here real quick.

823
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 4: I don't think he'll be a steeler, but he came.

824
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: In at six two one seventy six, so he is lean.

825
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: Yeah he's lean.

826
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: Uh he ran four to four to one.

827
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is fine, right, I mean, which is amazing

828
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 4: that goes under reported.

829
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: It's really fast, dude, really fast? Yeah.

830
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: Uh, forty four down five spots.

831
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: Jordan Morgan, Yeah, he might be a guard, but he's

832
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: a good movement guy at forty five down nine spots,

833
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: Keon Coleman.

834
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 4: I don't see it that way.

835
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 3: We knew he wasn't fast, Yeah, and he didn't run

836
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 3: terribly always, drill work was really good. I'd consider him

837
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: in the second round. He's a really physical yeah specimen.

838
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's being harshly criticized.

839
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: At forty six down three spots Junior Colson.

840
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I think he's a top fifty player.

841
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 2: At forty seven down three spots Malachai Corley.

842
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, did he feel like we talked about him in

843
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 4: a while either?

844
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't remember his workouts. I mean they must

845
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: not have been tremendous or terrible.

846
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: Ah, he did not work out.

847
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 4: Okay, that adds up.

848
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there you go.

849
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, but again I'm considering in the second you.

850
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: Hurts yourself by not working on.

851
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 4: I think certainly in our circles.

852
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like I don't know if the chiefs

853
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: all of a sudden don't like them, you know, but

854
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 3: we're not talking about them.

855
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: You're only giving yourself one chance, though. So let's say

856
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: let's say you skip the combine. I'm not going to

857
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: work out at the Combine. Right, you go to your

858
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: pro day.

859
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 3: And you pull a hammy at Western Kentucky and half

860
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: the teams are there and you pull a hammy, Yeah,

861
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 3: or you're sick than I And now you didn't run

862
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: at all. Yeah, and then you got trouble. And I

863
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 3: will say, and I'm not just saying, it's because the media.

864
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 3: The world's smaller. Now, teams listen to media more than

865
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 3: the other way around. You know, Like.

866
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 4: This draftnick thing isn't just a joke, you know what

867
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: I mean?

868
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: Now I say it like it used to be guys

869
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: didn't want to run at the Combine because the track

870
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: at in Indianapolis wasn't fast. Well they changed that.

871
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 4: It's definitely fast.

872
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: It might not be as fast as Ohio States, you know,

873
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 3: but I mean there's others that are faster.

874
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 4: But it's not a slow track.

875
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: No, not at all at all.

876
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: At forty eight up a spot, Marshaw Kneeland.

877
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about this neighborhood.

878
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: At forty nine up a spot, Roman Wilson.

879
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 3: I might like him better than a couple guys we mentioned.

880
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then at fifty moving in he was unranked

881
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: Massan Smith really, we ended up with like four guys

882
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 2: off a DJ's list, So Melton wasn't on the Melton's

883
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: not on there, but he probably didn't miss that much.

884
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 3: He must be hearing really good stuff about Smith. Yeah,

885
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: seef any nuggets in his right up about Smith.

886
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: Is a tall, long, and athletic defensive tackle. Had a

887
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: very productive freshman campaign for LSU before suffering a season

888
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: and a knee injury in the first game of his

889
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: sophomore season. Didn't look like the same player in twenty

890
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: twenty three, but he didn't prove throughout the season. As

891
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: a pass rusher, he flashes quick hands and feet to

892
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: win on the edge of blockers. His power hasn't fully

893
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: returned yet, and he doesn't have a solid pass rush plan.

894
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: Against the run, he uses his length to hold the

895
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: point attack, and he is above average range. Overall, there

896
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 2: is risk here, but the upside should be very appealing

897
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 2: to teams with a strong defensive line.

898
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 3: Coach. Yeah, yeah, that's up. Yeah on our teams a

899
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: lot in max that's one hundred per Yeah.

900
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: Interesting, So that's uh Daniel Jeremiah's new top fifty.

901
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: Did you do your top thts? I haven't thought about it.

902
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: I did just right now, I did my top two. Okay,

903
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 3: Murphy and Newton will be my top two and me

904
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: Smith ends up four or five, Robinson ahead of Newton

905
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 3: really okay, I don't know if Sweat will be in

906
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 3: it or not. He didn't make.

907
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 4: It okos and detractive to me.

908
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: I had Yeah, I had Rook in there, and I

909
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: had Yeah, and I had miss On Smith. They were

910
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 2: my four and fives.

911
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm thinking rut now for the first time. Yeah,

912
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 3: I definitely have Newton, but.

913
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: I tend I tend to look at things because I've

914
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 2: done it for so long. Out of three Steelers lens.

915
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 3: Right, which is much different forget Yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah,

916
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: probably will have somewhere five if he keep Sweat out

917
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 3: of the top five or not.

918
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: Kevin kick kick these things right.

919
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: He's a pure nose top down. Yeah. How many snaps

920
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: are you gonna go? Right? That bothers me a lot. Yeah.

921
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: So anyways, that's Daniel Jeremiah's top top fifty. We're gonna

922
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: take another break. We'll be back to finish up the

923
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: show right after this.

924
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale, Lolly and Matt

925
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

926
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: Black and Gold in Steelers Nation, Radio.

927
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: Fulcome back on Dale, LOLLI. He is the Matt Williamson

928
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: and you can probably get yourself a Matt Williamson Jersey

929
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: Steelers Jersey if you if you go online to the

930
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,560
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931
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932
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933
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: I had to get that you need to get a

934
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 3: Williamson along those lines, and then when you're has one.

935
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 3: When Avery was here that was not an easy one

936
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: to get and pulled a favor at the Steeler headquarters.

937
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: And then during my pit years there was a wide out.

938
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 3: I think he was from New Jersey. I forget his

939
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: first name. He never ended up, you know, being great

940
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: in college because really fast, unlike me. And when they

941
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 3: come in for their official visit, you build a locker

942
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: form with their jersey, and that one never made it

943
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 3: back to the Prins.

944
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 4: That's floating around my house somewhere. I got to dig

945
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 4: that up for my son.

946
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, only Lolly that that I can get is a

947
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: Joe Lolly Jersey he's a soccer player, English soccer player.

948
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 4: There was a pitcher lolly at some point.

949
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 3: No, no, they don't spell it the same way, right.

950
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 3: I think my son is a Zion Williamson jersey too, Yeah,

951
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: pretty sure.

952
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: None a much Fisher m Williamson on the back of

953
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: your jersey.

954
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: You could do that. It's a Steelers pro shop.

955
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 4: So I'm sure that's all a lot of those.

956
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the thirty thirteen changing gears here for oh yeah,

957
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: from the AFT a little bit. I love talking draft

958
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: this time here, and hopefully we're getting everybody up to

959
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: speed on some of these.

960
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, as we learned. We want you guys to learn.

961
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's what That's what we great feel for the first, second,

962
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: third rounders.

963
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 4: But now we're digging in taking right right.

964
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 2: So Derek Clawson, whose work we reference on occasion here

965
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: on the on the thirty third team, he does.

966
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: The quarterbacks stuff, right.

967
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: Uh, He has ranked every NFL offensive play caller entering

968
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four season.

969
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, this might shock you.

970
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: The Steelers have a new offensive play caller.

971
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 4: He's on the list.

972
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: He's on the list here, and let's see where Arthur

973
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: Smith ranks and Derek Clawson's ranked.

974
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: I haven't looked at these a long time, but I'm

975
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 3: we're gonna start at the bottom or the Topah, let's

976
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 3: start a top on this one, something different because those

977
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 3: bottom guys are going to be a lot of quarterback

978
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: offensive coordinat knows right.

979
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: So at number one is Kyle Shanahan.

980
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kevin McVeigh and Reed are going to dominate this

981
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 4: thing too.

982
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 3: He has McVeigh. Okay, okay.

983
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,479
Speaker 2: At three, Andy Reid.

984
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 3: There you go, Okay.

985
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 4: I figured they'd be the top three in some shape

986
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 4: or form.

987
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: I think Andy Reid would be number one if he

988
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: would stop all the trick play stuff in the red zone.

989
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: That might be coming to an end by the way,

990
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 3: I mean, bring around the rosie and yeah yeah.

991
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: Having Travis Kelsey take direct snaps and then flipping like

992
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 2: you do. It's all cute and fun when it works.

993
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: But it doesn't work, it's disaster. Yeah yeah.

994
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 4: At four.

995
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: At four, I think it starts to be a conversation he.

996
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: Has Mike McDaniel. I don't agree with that innovative. I

997
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: think he is a good offensive play caller, yeah, but

998
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: I don't.

999
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: Know that he is great. I think he's a September

1000
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: October collar, you know what I mean. And that's fine

1001
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: when you're in Miami. It's not fine when you're in

1002
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 3: Kansas City and it's three below or thirty below. Yeah.

1003
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, And there's just don't think there's a lot of

1004
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 4: physicality to it.

1005
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: No, there's no physical But I like the creativity and

1006
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: it's used to speaking. Yeah, yeah, there's some cool stuff

1007
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 3: without question.

1008
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: At five, Matt Lafleur.

1009
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: Doesn't get addit for that because I put La Flora

1010
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: ahead of.

1011
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 4: I think I would too.

1012
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think Laflora does a really good job.

1013
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 3: And I think he kind of Oh he's Aaron Rodgers,

1014
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: you know, look what he didn't post that.

1015
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I think he's an underrating guy.

1016
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: And let's not forget where Arthur who Arthur Smith worked under.

1017
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: Right, I mean he took over, he took over, right,

1018
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: there's some tendencies there. Yeah. Uh. At six, Sean Payton, Yeah,

1019
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: there's a time he would have been one, you know,

1020
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 3: I mean when he was last year. Didn't do him

1021
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: any favors, No, yeah, he really didn't. But I've been

1022
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: told basically the duration of Sean Payton's career that people

1023
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 3: study him in the office, especially back a couple of

1024
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 3: years ago.

1025
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: Seven Kevin O'Connell last year didn't do him any favors

1026
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: in terms of the play cat.

1027
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: I'm impressed with him as a yeah yeah, at the podium.

1028
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 3: As a coach, I think he's a keeper.

1029
00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: At eight Shane Steichen, Okay, I don't know if it's anything.

1030
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess that goes back to some

1031
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 3: of the Eagles stuff too, But okay.

1032
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 2: Nine Kevin Stefancy slash Ken Dorsey with Cleveland. I don't

1033
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 2: know why Stefanski's the play caller.

1034
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: Maybe he didn't know at that time that they.

1035
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 2: Were now not calling the plays.

1036
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: He's not going to Okay, I don't think Stefan is

1037
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: giving that up. I mean this was a month or

1038
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: so ago.

1039
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 2: Is a great play call?

1040
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 4: No, I mean I think we're getting into the good

1041
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: not great.

1042
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 3: At ten is Ben Johnson.

1043
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 4: I thought he'd be higher. Yeah, I mean I thought

1044
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: he'd be five.

1045
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if I put this guy aside eleven

1046
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 2: Todd Monkin.

1047
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 4: They had a really good year on offense. He has

1048
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 4: a track record.

1049
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: Most of his track record, though, is not good. Talked

1050
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 2: about it when when they were hired him. It was

1051
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: just going to be different than what they did before,

1052
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: and in the grand scheme of things at the end

1053
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 2: of the season, was it really all that different. Their

1054
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 2: leading rusher was still Lamar Jackson.

1055
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I expect did more sweeping changes, but he was

1056
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: the MVP and they were one of the best offenses

1057
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 3: in the league. I'd have him in that neighborhood.

1058
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: At twelve, Drew Petsing with the Cardinals.

1059
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 4: They were really creative. I didn't study their offense.

1060
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know people were excited about that coaching staff,

1061
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 3: where I thought it was not going to be the case.

1062
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 3: After one year.

1063
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: Thirteen he has Dave Canalis. Brad Iaac with the Panthers, did.

1064
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: Really good things with the Bucks, which is why he

1065
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 3: got higher. R resurrected Baker's career. He was kind of

1066
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 3: one year wonder.

1067
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 2: One year yeah, right, one year fourteen Arthur Smith.

1068
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought people would think he's twenty fifth by

1069
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 3: the tone of Steeler day.

1070
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 2: Why didn't they go get one of these hot young guys.

1071
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 3: He's forty one and three years ago he was the

1072
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: hot young guy.

1073
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: That's why he got hired as a head.

1074
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 4: Coach, right, right, what do they say about him.

1075
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: A majority of Arthur Smith's play calling history is impressive.

1076
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: His work with Tennessee the Tennessee Titans was impressive enough

1077
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: to convince the Atlanta Falcons to hire him as a

1078
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: head coach.

1079
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, in twenty.

1080
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: Smith got everything out of a decaying Matt Ryan and

1081
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: somehow steered Marcus Mariota to a top ten offense in

1082
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two.

1083
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: I mean his hit his stint in Atlanta was probably

1084
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: the worst group of quarterbacks in the league for a

1085
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: three year over three year stratch.

1086
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: Things fell apart in twenty twenty three, of course, but

1087
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: I'm willing to blame that on Smith being over in

1088
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: over his head as a head coach, not being a

1089
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: poor play caller in a vacuum.

1090
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of truth to that.

1091
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 3: Now that Smith has just has to hand quarterbacks, yeah,

1092
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 3: now that.

1093
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: Smith just has to handle the offense, expect the Pittsburgh

1094
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: Steelers to quickly have one of the best run games

1095
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: in the league in a lethal play action attack off

1096
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: of it.

1097
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 3: That's my expectations, which is why you might not want

1098
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 3: to sign Russell Wilson too. Yeah, okay, fifteen Yeah, Bobby

1099
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 3: Slowick Yeah. I mean he's sort of the Ben Johnson

1100
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 3: hot coordinator, new head coach.

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00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, candidate Sixteen Brian ball Slash Mike Kofka with the Giants.

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00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 3: We've been a lot higher year ago. Yeah.

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00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: Seventeen Doug Peterson's Press Taylor with the Jaguars.

1104
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 4: I guess, I guess that's average.

1105
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Eighteen Mike McCarthy At the bottom ten are all

1106
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: going to be unknowns, Yeah, well not necessarily.

1107
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: Eighteen is Brian Mike McCarthy. Brian Schottenheimer with the Cowboys.

1108
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a track record there.

1109
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: Nineteen Callum Moore, who somehow keeps getting jobs he's not

1110
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: with the Eagles. I think he's overrated.

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00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 3: I do too.

1112
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 4: I haven't seen a lot there that blows my doors off.

1113
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: Twenty Shame Waldron with the Bears.

1114
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 4: Solid.

1115
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: Twenty one Greg Roman with the Chargers. I don't think

1116
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: that's a good marriage at all.

1117
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 3: I mean, they're going to run the ball like crazy,

1118
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 3: but I hope Herbert's not doing ten carries a game.

1119
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 2: Twenty two Brian Callahan Nickolts with the Titans.

1120
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 3: He just don't know. He didn't plays with the plays.

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00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 3: That's what I said. These bottom guys how do you

1122
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 3: even rack them?

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00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: Twenty three Joe Brady at the Bills.

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00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 3: He did good things when he took over. Yeah, getting

1125
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 3: the ball to Kincaid and Cook I think is promising.

1126
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: But he also flamed out in his other spot right right?

1127
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: Is his tracker is not tremendous.

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00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: Twenty four Liam Cohen with the Buccaneers.

1129
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 3: I don't know he's except he's new. Yeah.

1130
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: Twenty five Ryan Grubb with the Seahawks.

1131
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: These are all the yea guys.

1132
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 2: Well this one's not. And people in Pittsburgh wanted this guy.

1133
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: I guess I know you're gonna talk about now.

1134
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 2: Twenty six is Cliff Kingsbury, and that's who he is.

1135
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 3: Yay, right.

1136
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: He is not a good offensive coordinator, He's not.

1137
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 3: It's a spread, it's a really weird approach. He doesn't

1138
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 3: get much out of really good players. I don't see it.

1139
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would that offense would not have flown in Pittsburgh. No, literally, no,

1140
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: say that.

1141
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 3: It's a bad match too for what this team wants

1142
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 3: to do, what this organization wants to do.

1143
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 2: Twenty seven Luke gets with the Raiders.

1144
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 3: Saw Luke at the combine. Good to see you, Luke. Yeah,

1145
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: hope you move on up the list. Best of luck.

1146
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: Twenty eight Zach Robinson with the Falcons.

1147
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 4: I was that was the.

1148
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 3: Guy that I would have been very happy if they

1149
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 3: signed him, not over Smith or an record, right, No, yeah,

1150
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 3: but I liked what I did, the homework I did

1151
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: on him.

1152
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: Twenty nine Alex Van Pelt with the Patriots.

1153
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. I kind of think we know that story by now, right. Yeah,

1154
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 3: he's been around a long time.

1155
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: Uh thirty Clint Kubiak with the Saints.

1156
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 4: He's ever gotten a shot just so muy Kubiak.

1157
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 2: I thought he did in Minnesota for a year or

1158
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: something like that.

1159
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: It's possible.

1160
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: Maybe it's hard to keep it.

1161
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of Kubiak, but he was another hot

1162
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 3: name that people wanted. Yeah, just because he was a

1163
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: Niner his loan year.

1164
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: Yeah he had. In twenty twenty one, he called plays

1165
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: for the Viking. Okay, yeah, so there is a They

1166
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 2: finished thirteenth in offensive DVO that year, largely thanks largely

1167
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 2: to their top ten passing offense.

1168
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: Yeah okay, okay, I mean yeah, they good good weapons

1169
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: to thirty one Nathaniel Hackett with the Jets. Yeah, he's

1170
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: there for one reason, and he was really bad with them,

1171
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: really bad.

1172
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 2: Uh and then thirty two Dan Pitcher with the Bengals. Well,

1173
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: he does call the plays.

1174
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Zach Taylor should be Zach Taylor should be there. Yeah. Yeah,

1175
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 3: he definitely should be on that list. And he reads

1176
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 3: on that list. Yeah right, maybe Zach Taylor should be fifteenth.

1177
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: Actually, like Zach Taylor the way he calls the game

1178
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: better than it like what Stefanski calls the game.

1179
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 3: I would say the three other AFC North ones would

1180
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 3: be a conversation how you rank? Yeah, you know, they

1181
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 3: all pretty much track record that they're it's not unknown. Yeah,

1182
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 3: although Stefanski got a lot better when he got the

1183
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 3: number one overall pick a quarterback and then added the

1184
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 3: top five wide receiver Taylor did Taylor? Taylor? I don't

1185
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 3: say Stefanki's not getting much out of his no, his

1186
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: expensive quarterback, that's the thing. Yeah, right, I know Sefanski

1187
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: won Coach of the Year.

1188
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: And twice one of twice, he hasn't won a division

1189
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: He hasn't won a division title, and he's won of

1190
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: coach of the Year twice.

1191
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 3: If he doesn't do something with Watson this year, though,

1192
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 3: he's getting fired. I think he gets fired, right, I mean,

1193
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 3: if Watson's the twenty first best quarterback, there's a.

1194
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: Better chance he gets fired in he gets something out

1195
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: of Deshaun Watson.

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00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 3: I kind of think so too. I mean, yeah, I

1197
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 3: mean he went through a lot of court I'd love

1198
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 3: to see watching stayed healthy for seventeen games and we

1199
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 3: can finally say is he could or not?

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00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: I think Cleveland would too.

1201
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 4: Callywould. I think we know the answer though, or we

1202
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 4: have a strong I'm.

1203
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 2: Pretty strong about Yeah, he's not going to be a

1204
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: top ten quarterback.

1205
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think so at this stage.

1206
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 3: I mean, he hasn't been in five years.

1207
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: I think they'd be fortunate if he became a top

1208
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: fifteen quarterback.

1209
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, I think they'd take that right now for

1210
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 3: what they're paying, which is a terrible deal, but right.

1211
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 3: I mean I think i'd take that if I were them. Yeah.

1212
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 4: So yuck.

1213
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: But that is the that's the list of play that's

1214
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 2: according to Derek Colossa, how he sees Arthur Smith fourteenth

1215
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: in the league.

1216
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't think that's crazy at all. And frankly,

1217
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: if it was a year ago, I bet he'd be ninth.

1218
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, coming off the seasons that he had had in Atlanta.

1219
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and with Tyler Algier and quarter O Patterson and

1220
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 4: mary Oda.

1221
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: Patterson into a legit NFL weapon, right right, Nobody had

1222
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 3: been able to unlock that clear that Falcons offense, not

1223
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: this past year, two years ago, wasn't very talented and

1224
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 3: they were tough to play against.

1225
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 4: They were really tough to play against.

1226
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Pitch was in his second year, London

1227
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 3: was in his first, Bijon wasn't there yet. Bergeron wasn't

1228
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: there yet. Quarterbacks were even as bad as ever. Yeah.

1229
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: Again made Marcus Mariota top.

1230
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 4: Then he's really bad.

1231
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 3: He has a hard time completing passage. Yeah.

1232
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 2: So anyways, that's that list that's going to do it

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Speaker 2: for the show to they met, all right, that's our week.

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Speaker 3: Next week we're going.

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Speaker 2: To be we come back next week. Oh, it is

1236
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: going to be hitting hot and heavy here. We'll be

1237
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 2: probably breaking end up breaking some news as the show

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Speaker 2: goes on.

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00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 4: We're on for two hours. There will be news next week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So for my partner Matt Williamson for CJ. Wolfly here

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Speaker 2: insight keeping us on the air, I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: We Thank you for listening to this edition of The

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