Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio broadcasting from the Mercedes Man. Happy Halloween. This
Speaker 1: is Dan Patrick. Welcome to the program. I hope you're
Speaker 1: still with us after what happened at the end of
Speaker 1: last hour Todd gave us his Halloween sports names. I'm
Speaker 1: starting to hate Halloween. Oh come on, there's a few wids.
Speaker 1: I really wanted to sneak in there. No, because you
Speaker 1: sent me. You rattled off forty of them, and then
Speaker 1: you sent me another ten. Think there's something good. Okay,
Speaker 1: just for for instance, give the Dabbo Sweeney Halloween nickname
Speaker 1: or name. That would be Stabo Sweeney. Stabo laughed, But
Speaker 1: I know it's a real man's but it's Stabow and
Speaker 1: it's topical. With Trevor Lawrence and the COVID the Christmas,
Speaker 1: you got Saint Nick Saban. You can get that and
Speaker 1: do that dunking start. Sorry, I had Crawley Eastwick. Nobody
Speaker 1: knows it's a picture from the seventies, Did you do,
Speaker 1: Nick Satan? I had Cordell Slash Stewart. That's pretty good
Speaker 1: slash a slasher movie. Any any any athletes from this generation?
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill Buckner four place of the lotion in the basket,
Speaker 1: or it gets but you don't have any. But you
Speaker 1: don't have a Pennywise hard away from it, the clown
Speaker 1: Pennywise hardaway. Okay, Lamb okay, the others are bad. You
Speaker 1: just peeked like Kevin Costner. He went back to back
Speaker 1: duds on fire Man. Let's ride, Toddler, let it ride
Speaker 1: with pro quo clares. You tell me things, I tell
Speaker 1: you things. So creepy todd is gonna hit on nineteen
Speaker 1: Let's go. Whatever happened to your lamb? Let's go? You
Speaker 1: still hear the screaming of the lambs at night. You
Speaker 1: were with your uncle and ants for a month. Why
Speaker 1: did you stay at period of time which so short?
Speaker 1: Fumbling fingers in the backs of cons Just so you know,
Speaker 1: this is a four guest meet Friday for todd running
Speaker 1: running all the way to the f B. I oh, Governor,
Speaker 1: one more thing, love your suit? You sound I'm all
Speaker 1: out of here. Do you have any other sports names?
Speaker 1: Had Ron Jaws Jaworski? How mummy? You don't like the
Speaker 1: old ones though, Danny Tarns, Tartable, my show Tony. Look
Speaker 1: you know red rum red rum guy, Danny Tarn's tartable
Speaker 1: Delbert Grady little remember the manager, the red Grady, Little
Speaker 1: Delbert Grady. What's Delbert Grady? Delbert Grady was a scary
Speaker 1: guy from the shining that he ran into in the
Speaker 1: in the bathroom. There, your son is, We're good. We
Speaker 1: should just do this the rest of the show. I
Speaker 1: could do another ninety minutes of this easy. Perhaps your
Speaker 1: son's a little talking to, perhaps a bit more, if
Speaker 1: you don't mind me saying sir. When my wife tried
Speaker 1: to interfere, I had to correct her, And when my
Speaker 1: daughters tried to interfere with my duties here at the hotel,
Speaker 1: I had to correct them too. I fear there's no
Speaker 1: other way. You must deal with this in the most
Speaker 1: haustious way possible. Mister Torrens, can you stomach clen you're
Speaker 1: a creepy guy? Yeah, thank you are, Like, it's not
Speaker 1: it's not even a joke. You're you're a creepy guy.
Speaker 1: You ain't going anywhere, Windy, Go check out this. Go
Speaker 1: check it out. Ready, you ain't going away. Check it out.
Speaker 1: I said, I wasn't gonna hurt you. That's gonna bash
Speaker 1: your heading, that's gonna bad your Heaven? Do you have
Speaker 1: any other sports names? I had Saidel Treat, but I
Speaker 1: think it's a Dell three. That's back in the seventies too.
Speaker 1: I rereading Upshore Regan was the Exorcist. Girl was Daved Regan.
Speaker 1: I believe, Yeah, I think it's Reagan up show had
Speaker 1: T P C. Saw Grass like toilet paper TP toilet
Speaker 1: paper Sea saw Grass. That's not a name, that's a
Speaker 1: golf course. I had Tom six feet Underwood. Everyone loves
Speaker 1: Tom Underwood. That's also from like what the eighty seventies.
Speaker 1: I don't remember Tom Underwood. You don't, I guess you do.
Speaker 1: And I had Ray Knight of the Living Dead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: once again the seventies reference. Okay, silence of the uh
Speaker 1: if you if you stopped it, silence of the season.
Speaker 1: But that you guys encouraged me. But Pauli said no,
Speaker 1: Paulli said, don't do it. And you never listened to PAULI.
Speaker 1: Do you actually don't. It goes back to those days
Speaker 1: when I had like inappropriate ones, and he's smartly to
Speaker 1: protect me and the show and us getting lost to it.
Speaker 1: He said, no, you're not reading like any of her
Speaker 1: When when Paully would wave his arms like you know,
Speaker 1: he he was trying to help you, But I said,
Speaker 1: like twelve and like nine he said, you're not reading.
Speaker 1: I probably kept you employed seven or eight times, yes,
Speaker 1: because you'd go blue and then because you knew you
Speaker 1: weren't getting reaction from the other ones because they were
Speaker 1: lame references. And then I'd fight it a little bit
Speaker 1: and hit why don't you understand about why you can't
Speaker 1: say that on the air. Welcome to the program already
Speaker 1: in progress, as you could tell, Michael Wilbon is going
Speaker 1: to join us. Coming up, Chris Fowler for the Mother's Ship,
Speaker 1: and Dave Roberts, the Dodgers manager. Right now, the big
Speaker 1: news with college football is Trevor Lawrence has tested positive
Speaker 1: mild symptoms. But in the SEC a player has ten
Speaker 1: days in which to quarantine. Chris Howeler is coming on.
Speaker 1: That's perfect, followed Chris Owler. He just walked right into
Speaker 1: that one. Are you done? I can't promise you okay?
Speaker 1: Now I didn't think so go like we got like
Speaker 1: two full hours are to go, okay. Trevor Lawrence has
Speaker 1: ten days in which he has to quarantine and make
Speaker 1: sure that he passed the test to face Notre Dame
Speaker 1: because they have Boston College coming up this weekend, and
Speaker 1: they went from a thirty and a half point favorite
Speaker 1: for that game against BC without Trevor Lawrence, they are
Speaker 1: now down to a twenty three and a half point favorite.
Speaker 1: That's a seven point swing because of Trevor Lawrence. It's
Speaker 1: also impacted the Heisman Trophy odds. It's also impacted National
Speaker 1: Championship odds. Clemson is still the favorite for that and
Speaker 1: Trevor is still the favorite for the Heisman Trophy. But
Speaker 1: if he misses the Notre Dame game, how many games
Speaker 1: can you miss and still be eligible or that you
Speaker 1: would qualify for the Heisman Trophy. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I mentioned last hour that Ohio State and Michigan were
Speaker 1: in favor of Nebraska being able to play a game
Speaker 1: this weekend after the Wisconsin game got canceled, because I'm
Speaker 1: told by a source that Ohio State in Michigan realized
Speaker 1: they could be in that same situation in the next
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, where hey, all of the Big Ten
Speaker 1: presidents voted that you could not play any non conference
Speaker 1: games when this started. The season started, they were told
Speaker 1: nobody could play any games other than the Big Ten games.
Speaker 1: Now that you have a cancelation with Nebraska Wisconsin, Nebraska
Speaker 1: trying to schedule Tennessee Chattanooga and it felt like they
Speaker 1: were scheduling it and then asking for permission, and the
Speaker 1: Big Ten said no. Eight seven seven three DP show
Speaker 1: email address the DP at Dan Patrick dot com. Texas
Speaker 1: against Oklhoma State, Ohio State, Penn State. This weekend, the
Speaker 1: White Sox hired Tony Larusa. The Tigers quietly grabbed aj Hinch.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they did it on purpose, but
Speaker 1: if you're gonna hire a J. Hinch, you wait till
Speaker 1: the White Sox are hiring Tony LaRussa and you go,
Speaker 1: you know what, that's going to get all the headlines here,
Speaker 1: And it did. The reaction to Tony LaRussa Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer at age seventy six going to the White Song
Speaker 1: and the number of concerned opinions that, well, how's he
Speaker 1: gonna embrace you know, today's analytics. I go, I thought
Speaker 1: he was embracing analytics back in the eighties, nineties, two thousands.
Speaker 1: He's one of the first managers I remember who really
Speaker 1: managed the lefty versus lefty, righty versus righty bullpen. I
Speaker 1: always think it's funny, you know, when you see a manager,
Speaker 1: And this happened to us when we were playing you know,
Speaker 1: Little League or American Legion ball, Like the manager would
Speaker 1: say to the left field or you know, like hey, move,
Speaker 1: so you'd move like two steps and then he would go, okay,
Speaker 1: like you were in the perfect spot here in left
Speaker 1: field and moving that's exactly right there. That's good, right there,
Speaker 1: that's it. And I kept thinking, God that my manager
Speaker 1: is so smart. He knows where they're gonna hit the ball.
Speaker 1: He does his homeworking studies. He's eight nineteen year old. Yeah, Paully,
Speaker 1: how often And I really don't know because when I
Speaker 1: watch BASSI I'm not sure I could tell either way.
Speaker 1: How often is the manager or pitching coach calling the
Speaker 1: pitches pitch by pitch and the um the catcher because
Speaker 1: sometimes it seems all catcher, but a lot of times
Speaker 1: you see the catcher looking over to the dugout a lot,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's like I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I think it depends on how old is your catcher
Speaker 1: or pitcher or both. And some managers like to call
Speaker 1: all the pitches or you know, they want that catcher
Speaker 1: to check in with them. But I think it really
Speaker 1: depends on if I have a young catcher, then I
Speaker 1: might be trying to help him there. Yes, McLeman, I
Speaker 1: likes find it weird when an ace wants a special catcher,
Speaker 1: Like I was growing up, Carlton had to have McCarver
Speaker 1: instead of Bob Boone. Yeah, it's got to be because
Speaker 1: of some of that, right, like pitch calling, Well, it's
Speaker 1: also how you frame a pitch. It's also how you
Speaker 1: get down in your stance. There's certain catchers who set
Speaker 1: up in a different way. You may have a a
Speaker 1: taller catcher, a wider catcher. Manny Sangeean for the Pirates
Speaker 1: used to get down on one knee and you saw,
Speaker 1: you know, Benito Santiago when he was a catcher. They
Speaker 1: they got down differently into their crouch. And as a pitcher,
Speaker 1: you know, do you want somebody who's setting up lower?
Speaker 1: Do you want somebody who is a bigger target who
Speaker 1: frames the pitch better. But certain pitchers we brought that
Speaker 1: up with John Smoltz. You know, there's certain pictures that
Speaker 1: they want to throw to that guy. For whatever reason,
Speaker 1: phone calls are welcome. I think we have a poll question,
Speaker 1: don't we put up who would you rather have as
Speaker 1: a manager? Tony Lebusta or A J. Hinch? Very surprising
Speaker 1: results fifty fifty exactly fifty fifty and a lot of
Speaker 1: votes are in. Yeah, Okay, Tony's aholl of famer. If
Speaker 1: I say, now here's part of my problem with when
Speaker 1: it comes to coaches and managers. How many times did
Speaker 1: we go, oh, and uh, who did they hire? Jane Shoe,
Speaker 1: Dick Mada, And I go, these are the same coaches.
Speaker 1: They just go to another team and the Cavaliers hire
Speaker 1: Lenny Wilkins. After a while, you go, we got to
Speaker 1: get some younger, you know, opinions in here, younger people,
Speaker 1: younger voices in here. But if Tony, if I say
Speaker 1: you can hire the third winningest manager of all time
Speaker 1: and a manager who won three World championships, then wouldn't
Speaker 1: you do that no matter what his ages? I guess
Speaker 1: that's what you know. Jerry Reinstor from the White Sox
Speaker 1: are thinking. I was surprised just because I didn't know
Speaker 1: that Tony wanted to manage again. And I thought, with
Speaker 1: a really young clubhouse and they're a playoff team. That
Speaker 1: surprised me. Yeah, mcclubbing stan All back he was wearing Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: NBA had that Jim Lyneum from the Sixers. He's get around.
Speaker 1: It felt like there was about a twenty year period
Speaker 1: where they weren't bringing in, you know, new head coaches.
Speaker 1: They just kind of recycled them. Yeah, which team should
Speaker 1: I jump on the bandwagon? The Nets with three head
Speaker 1: coaches or the Sixers with three gms. I'm very confused by, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what is Elton brand doing if More's
Speaker 1: in there. I think Elton Brand might be just sort
Speaker 1: of he might be like public relations, And I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's the boss anymore. It feels like Daryl
Speaker 1: Morey's the boss with Doc Rivers, but Elton Bran is
Speaker 1: the president the seventy six ers. And in case you're
Speaker 1: just joining us, Mike D'Antoni has joined Steve Nash with
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets. He's joining Nash with the Brooklyn Nets.
Speaker 1: And we thought D'Antoni maybe he'd go to Philadelphia, maybe
Speaker 1: he'd go to New Orleans. So I think he was
Speaker 1: just the game of you know, musical chairs. He was
Speaker 1: left without a chair to sit in. But you know,
Speaker 1: D'Antoni with that style, I'm gonna guess they're going to
Speaker 1: embrace how they played with the Phoenix Suns, you know,
Speaker 1: and seconds of offense. Yeah, mcleven. Do you see Ben
Speaker 1: Simmons or Joe l Embiid moving not this year? No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think Doc Rivers wants to
Speaker 1: see what he has here, and I you don't have
Speaker 1: to play like everybody else plays. Not everybody's a three
Speaker 1: point shooting team, or shouldn't be a predominantly three point
Speaker 1: shooting team. In my opinion, if I have guys who
Speaker 1: were talented, I got to use their talents. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to make them into something that they're not. And
Speaker 1: I think that'll be the challenge for Doc Rivers here.
Speaker 1: You know, you got Horford's contract is not user friendly.
Speaker 1: Doc is reunited with Tobias Harris, who played well, you
Speaker 1: know with him with the Clippers. But you know, it
Speaker 1: comes down to Embead and Ben Simmons. Do they get along?
Speaker 1: Do they want to be great? And what do you
Speaker 1: add to every every star player? Every great player added
Speaker 1: something in their career, every one of them. Because you
Speaker 1: don't just come in and go, I'm a fish product.
Speaker 1: It's now what do you add? That's when the challenge starts.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'd like to see with Simmons and
Speaker 1: embed what do you add? Some phone calls here eight
Speaker 1: seven seven three D show Kyle in California. Hey Kyle,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Um? First, off with the
Speaker 1: h So the nets hiring, Yes I can, Kyle, Okay,
Speaker 1: sorry sorry, So Mike Dntoni with the nets. The offense.
Speaker 1: I bet they're going to do the offense where they
Speaker 1: get the ball to Tudie and Kyrie s they go
Speaker 1: score it. Man, you guys are pretty good, and I
Speaker 1: honestly think they've still got a move to make. You know,
Speaker 1: Katie Kyrie and there really three point suitors Katie in
Speaker 1: the mid range, especially Um. And then Fritzie's Halloween name
Speaker 1: is fantastic. Please go back and look at how his
Speaker 1: eyes set up within the middlesecond. Pray your approval post
Speaker 1: every name. I recorded it. I'm going to be watching
Speaker 1: it on Luke all weekend. It was past thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you? Were you craving my approval? Yes? I like
Speaker 1: when you're laughing when all you guys are laughing. That's
Speaker 1: I told you that many times I could book the
Speaker 1: greatest guest in the world when you when I make
Speaker 1: you guys laugh like that, or you're a beat d
Speaker 1: or Seaton's laugh, that's just that's just the greatest feeling
Speaker 1: for me, really is I'm just being honest. I love
Speaker 1: when you guys are cracking up about something else. What
Speaker 1: happens when we're not. It's very hurtful. And then I
Speaker 1: go drive home miserable, and then I talk to my
Speaker 1: wife all night about how everybody hates me at work.
Speaker 1: And that's basically how that goes. Not everybody, not everybody.
Speaker 1: There's there's a couple of people who like you. You're there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the big German likes you. You could probably count on
Speaker 1: one hand, and there's about fifteen of us. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's it's a big German, big Germans dog Penny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys, stop bringing it. Pets involved to count, get
Speaker 1: up to three or four more than anybody. We do.
Speaker 1: We come here, the woman who cleans the studio, She
Speaker 1: and Todd shatted up. I try to try to try
Speaker 1: to be friendly. It's nice. She invited us all to
Speaker 1: her wedding, as though she's she wants to be part
Speaker 1: of the DP show family. God bless her. It's nice,
Speaker 1: that's all. That's all I got. If it was a
Speaker 1: guy who was cleaning, you would not say her. I'm
Speaker 1: far too busy. Oh I know. Oh. When she comes
Speaker 1: in right after the show on Thursday, Todd just wants
Speaker 1: to talk to me. Usually I leave right after the show.
Speaker 1: But what is cleaning lady? The like, what did you
Speaker 1: dinner at four o'clock every after? That's weird. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when when Olivia comes in you you don't even know
Speaker 1: her name, right, I just found out. Yes, I'm sure
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop that. Yeah, But Todd goes, hey, she
Speaker 1: invited us to her wedding. I'm gonna go. I go.
Speaker 1: You don't really know her. I mean, I really get
Speaker 1: invited to stuff. So that's the night out, you know,
Speaker 1: with the pandemic, and may have to be put on
Speaker 1: hold the wedding, but I'd like to attend on. Yes,
Speaker 1: when she's here cleaning and Todd's talking to her, I
Speaker 1: usually step out to give them some private time. He
Speaker 1: does do that, but every once in a while I'll
Speaker 1: walk back in and I'll hear and I just bought
Speaker 1: this appointment, and then I hear we get cinemax for
Speaker 1: free working for Dirk Teeth. It's weird. I start reaching
Speaker 1: for things and topics that she's gotten. No, he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to hear from them with that awkward what kind
Speaker 1: of vacuum cleaners? I I just love, I forget, I'm
Speaker 1: just looking for you are the greatest small talker I've
Speaker 1: ever been around, to a certain extent. But then after
Speaker 1: a while you're like no, because you'll say, how long
Speaker 1: does it take you to get here? Yea, what route
Speaker 1: do you take? What kind of gas moneys do you get?
Speaker 1: How are your tires? And then the outside On the inside,
Speaker 1: they're like, this guy's really weird. She's a very sweet woman,
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Speaker 1: Michael Wilbond will join us. More phone calls coming up
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Speaker 1: in the iHeart Radio app. Trevor Lawrence won't play against
Speaker 1: Boston College coming up this weekend, and he's had a
Speaker 1: big impact on the point spread. They were favored by
Speaker 1: thirty and a half over BC, and that's down to
Speaker 1: twenty three and a half right now. Trevor Lawrence thirty
Speaker 1: one and one in his career Clemson. His only loss
Speaker 1: was last year in the National title game to LSU.
Speaker 1: By the way, Clemsons never had a player selected higher
Speaker 1: than fourth overall in the draft. The only Clemson quarterback
Speaker 1: ever drafted in the first round. There's two of them, obviously,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. PAULI, would you like to take a guess
Speaker 1: on the other Clemson quarterback taken in the first round
Speaker 1: from the seventies? Yes, oh, man, I'm blanking Steve Tannehill
Speaker 1: from South Carolina. I love that Fuller. Oh nice, Steve Fuller. No,
Speaker 1: it did not I told Michael Wilbon years ago, I said,
Speaker 1: if you start this part in the Interruption show, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be stuck with Kornheiser for twenty years. Well we're
Speaker 1: on nineteen years, Mike. Can you make it another year
Speaker 1: with Kornheiser? I though we can go longer than that.
Speaker 1: By the way, Steve Fuller, I actually knew that answer.
Speaker 1: Steve Fuller quarterback the Bears, and he actually won a
Speaker 1: playoff game because Jim McMahon was hurt in nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 1: the year before the fel super team in the shuffle
Speaker 1: and all that, even before they won. He's in the
Speaker 1: shuffle video. Steve Fuller, Yeah, yeah, he beat U. I
Speaker 1: think he was. I'm pretty sure he was the starting quarterback,
Speaker 1: beat the Redskins, crushed the Redskins, and they would defending
Speaker 1: NFC champions in Washington. I'm sorry, I'm not supposed to
Speaker 1: say that anymore. The Washington football team. Yes, of course, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty much. Fuller was number four, was
Speaker 1: in the video and won that game. Growing up in Chicago,
Speaker 1: did you go as an athlete on Halloween? Wow? Damn no,
Speaker 1: I don't think I ever did that. With his boring
Speaker 1: stuff like scarecrows and skeletons. I don't think I ever
Speaker 1: like got you know, like, yeah you mean like I
Speaker 1: got dressed up as Gail Sayers or Ernie Banks or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I must have done it once. I but
Speaker 1: you know what, you know this, You just couldn't get
Speaker 1: a uniform anywhere back then when we were kids, right,
Speaker 1: you had a hat like he was a big deal.
Speaker 1: You got a batting helmet, you went on went to
Speaker 1: a game of batting helmet day. But we didn't have
Speaker 1: uniforms and jerseys and stuff, did we. I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: They weren't into marketing like that back then, and you
Speaker 1: would get you could get those plastic batting helmets that
Speaker 1: they would you know, strongly suggest you don't use this
Speaker 1: in a real game. I don't think. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think. I think Scarecrow and Skeleton was as good
Speaker 1: as it got for me. All right, let me start
Speaker 1: with Tony LaRussa going to the White Sox and aj
Speaker 1: Hinge to the Tigers. I was prized that the negative
Speaker 1: reaction was more towards LaRussa coming back to the White
Speaker 1: Sox than aj Hinch going to the Tigers. Why is
Speaker 1: that because we have a generation divide. We have a
Speaker 1: generation gap, you know, I mean you look, you and
Speaker 1: I grew up in what was called the originally the
Speaker 1: original generation gap right between us and our sort of
Speaker 1: slightly post World War two parents. That was supposed to
Speaker 1: be the big generation gap. That's nothing, that is nothing.
Speaker 1: We came around ultimately to you know, I would say
Speaker 1: to my father, is all you want to do? Listen
Speaker 1: to Nat King Cole and Frank Sinatra. And then in
Speaker 1: thirty years I listened to the NAT game calling Frank
Speaker 1: Sinatra right, And then my parents said, oh yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: try some Marvin gall Have, I'll have some more Marvin Gay,
Speaker 1: I'll have someone that is not happening, that is not happening.
Speaker 1: Now we have a generation gap, which is frightening. And
Speaker 1: these these I'm sure these there were I'm I'm told
Speaker 1: there are people in the organization, not to mention players,
Speaker 1: who just look at LaRussa as some fossil and they
Speaker 1: don't want anybody who's not their age look at an
Speaker 1: Instagram all day. We have a really serious, uncrossable making
Speaker 1: a word now not spannable generation gap in the world.
Speaker 1: And this higher that's why I think we're hearing so
Speaker 1: much's negativity about Larusa. Well, a couple of things came
Speaker 1: to mind when I saw the higher I was like,
Speaker 1: of all the people available, why Tony LaRussa, And why
Speaker 1: does Tony want to come back and manage now at
Speaker 1: his age? That's a young team, that's a playoff team.
Speaker 1: And then you also had this, oh, he's not going
Speaker 1: to embrace analytics, and I go, wait a minute, that's
Speaker 1: what you're bothered by, that Tony won't embrace analytics. We
Speaker 1: just railed on Kevin Cash with Tampa embracing analytics. Now
Speaker 1: we want to make sure that Tony Ruse is gonna
Speaker 1: embrace analytics. I'm thinking Tony was embracing analytics before I
Speaker 1: think any other manager was. Yeah, to a degree. And
Speaker 1: that's the problem with today's baseball. You know, you have
Speaker 1: so many people who just want to be They don't
Speaker 1: want to embrace. They want to They want somebody to
Speaker 1: be slavishly devoted to it. They'd rather have a mathematician.
Speaker 1: They want all the business guys. They want guys who
Speaker 1: study in favor probability. They don't give a damn about
Speaker 1: having a manager who understands, you know, just a human element,
Speaker 1: human condition, the fact that a guy might and his
Speaker 1: wife might be having a baby and he's going through
Speaker 1: something for two or three weeks at home. They don't
Speaker 1: want no, no, just straight numbers. We don't want to
Speaker 1: have you actually manage people. I thought baseball took a
Speaker 1: massive step back to a couple of nights ago. Massive
Speaker 1: step back. I thought it was a bad night for
Speaker 1: sport that we had a picture removed while he was
Speaker 1: trying to become Sandy Kofax or Bob gives him for
Speaker 1: his team. I thought it was awful. I asked Johnny
Speaker 1: Bench about that. You know the role that the catcher
Speaker 1: can play, because that's who I want to hear from. Yes,
Speaker 1: the catcher is going to say skip. They're not even
Speaker 1: close on these pitches, or they're catching up to him.
Speaker 1: His you know, his curveball doesn't have bite. You know
Speaker 1: that fastball it's getting up a little bit. Now. If
Speaker 1: you tell me that, that's what I want to hear.
Speaker 1: Not this guy when he gets into third time around
Speaker 1: in the lineup, he gets roughed up. I would have
Speaker 1: just left him in for Mookie Betts. I wouldn't to
Speaker 1: see how he got through that because he has struck
Speaker 1: him out twice. But Dan, they don't give a damn
Speaker 1: about what the catcher has to say. They're just studying cards.
Speaker 1: Just think about think about the Okay, baseball is the worst,
Speaker 1: the most offensive at it right now, but think about
Speaker 1: pro football. You have coaches they're not thinking about the
Speaker 1: logic at the in the moment of going for two
Speaker 1: and what their team's moralities or what the option. No,
Speaker 1: they got a card and look at its statistical probability.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, you know, it's just it's but
Speaker 1: this is where pitching staffs are headed, which I don't
Speaker 1: like it, but you know, you're just you're looking at
Speaker 1: you know what this is going to be. Is this
Speaker 1: just a phase? Nope? No, this is where they This
Speaker 1: is no. This is why so many people are up
Speaker 1: in arms about the RUSSA. It's not a phase. If
Speaker 1: it's a phase, Dan, this is one that you and
Speaker 1: I are not going to be on the other side
Speaker 1: of the end of the phase. Yeah. But I think
Speaker 1: we're looking at I think we're looking at this is
Speaker 1: the way the sport has gone, and I can't anticipate
Speaker 1: what trend might replace it. Twenty years from now, and
Speaker 1: I get it. I don't want to spend three hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars on Garrett Cole if I can spend seven
Speaker 1: million dollars a piece on ten relievers who throw one
Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour, and that's what their job is
Speaker 1: going to be. I mean, we're not going to see
Speaker 1: a contract like Garrett Coles again in baseball because you
Speaker 1: don't need a starting pitcher. You might see those contracts
Speaker 1: for hitters, but you're not gonna see it for a
Speaker 1: starting pitcher. The Yankees or look, unless somebody's a wild
Speaker 1: card and they so, out of thirty teams, how many
Speaker 1: are going to not be everybody has embraced and analytics.
Speaker 1: How many are not gonna be slavishly devoted. Who's gonna
Speaker 1: be a thinker, Who's gonna be an outlier? I mean,
Speaker 1: there'll be somebody. But the Dodgers, even with that payroll.
Speaker 1: They took Andrew Friedman from Tampa, so they took that
Speaker 1: philosophy and attached it to a big payroll. But the
Speaker 1: fact that we went the Dodgers are this is a
Speaker 1: bullpen game. They have two starters. If two starters would matter,
Speaker 1: I know, but just the fact that you go, this
Speaker 1: is the World Series. We always got caught up in
Speaker 1: those pitching matchups, like who's starting Game two? The bullpen
Speaker 1: is But that's what I mean. They only the Dodgers
Speaker 1: only have two starters? What I should have been saying,
Speaker 1: only have two? I mean who's gone into who's gone
Speaker 1: into a postseason? Being fined with that? Well, not having
Speaker 1: David Price too, because he opted out. He would have
Speaker 1: been there. Third, he's Michael Wilbond from Pardon the interruption.
Speaker 1: And then you had the situation with Justin Turner and
Speaker 1: Baseball investigating the Dodgers. I think Baseball should investigate baseball first, Mike,
Speaker 1: because how does this happen that it's inconclusive? And then
Speaker 1: it is conclusive and then you take him out? Now
Speaker 1: where does he go? And then he's not cordoned off?
Speaker 1: Why are we allowing results when a game starts? Should
Speaker 1: we be allowing for test results? They've been around everybody,
Speaker 1: and then you had what happened after the game as well,
Speaker 1: which I understand your teammates are fine with you. I'm
Speaker 1: not fine with Justin Turner being around the wives or
Speaker 1: girlfriends because they did not sign up for this they
Speaker 1: the players did, but we had no positives for fifty
Speaker 1: eight days or whatever it was. And you have women.
Speaker 1: I think there was one woman who was pregnant. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're out there and everybody's you know, intermingling, and
Speaker 1: you know, I had a real problem with baseball. And
Speaker 1: then Justin Turner was extremely selfish. He was, And I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out I might hold the Dodgers more
Speaker 1: accountable because they knew Dan once. And I agree with
Speaker 1: you about why are you having results brought down the
Speaker 1: middle of a game? What they couldn't have gotten that
Speaker 1: done at six fifty eight before the team Eastern, before
Speaker 1: the teams took the field. But I'm I mean the
Speaker 1: Dodgers have to have some accountability, I mean a large
Speaker 1: a lot of accountability, at least once I presume it
Speaker 1: was Baseball told the Dodgers yea at that point that
Speaker 1: obviously there's gonna be more protocols. If if you need
Speaker 1: more protocols, well apparently you do. But I don't know
Speaker 1: the Dodgers in Turner, and I wonder where this is going.
Speaker 1: I mean, they may investigate, this is gonna be I
Speaker 1: asked Tony this yesterday. It's gonna be like the NHL,
Speaker 1: where you know, if it hit results in a broken jaw,
Speaker 1: the guy's got to be out for two or three
Speaker 1: weeks or as long as he's had. But if there
Speaker 1: are no consequences, you know, I could be back the
Speaker 1: next night. What happens to Charner, who particularly is a
Speaker 1: free agent. Is it based on consequences suffered by others? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because of his actions. I don't know that I want
Speaker 1: to see that. But this is hard. This is I
Speaker 1: think you you even brought up like a sliding scale.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes our reaction or the punishment has to
Speaker 1: fit the crime. Well, what's the crime? If nobody tests
Speaker 1: positive here, is he fine? Is his find not as large?
Speaker 1: Or if somebody happens to test positive, And he might
Speaker 1: have said, hey, I'm a free agent, I may never
Speaker 1: get to this point again. I may not be with
Speaker 1: the Dodgers next year. I'm going out and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sit there in the photo and I'm gonna be part
Speaker 1: of history. He just didn't realize what part of history
Speaker 1: he's going to be involved in. And there could be
Speaker 1: you know, you hope, you hope, just in terms of
Speaker 1: health and safety that this Peter's out. But but it
Speaker 1: might not the NBA And what is it the NBA
Speaker 1: talking about Christmas? And if they start on Christmas, the
Speaker 1: amount of money I guess the rough estimate is a
Speaker 1: round and a half a billion dollars yea. If not
Speaker 1: they wait another month, what do you do if there's
Speaker 1: no fan? What if does this come down to if
Speaker 1: Lebron says I'm spending Christmas at home this year, I'm
Speaker 1: not playing until January, well, you know it could come
Speaker 1: down to him saying that, damn, because obviously we know
Speaker 1: the influence he has. But I'm told yesterday last night,
Speaker 1: they're quite a few players. Now are the star players
Speaker 1: all aligned here? Look if the star players are in
Speaker 1: lockstep and they just say, we're not doing this is crazy.
Speaker 1: We're not doing this. And here's why. I right now,
Speaker 1: if you tell me over under December twenty second, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say beyond. I don't see it. It's not just
Speaker 1: because Lebron. But again, it's the word influencer and basketball
Speaker 1: starts with Lebron James. And I don't blame them. Now.
Speaker 1: I understand though, that there are obligations. This is this
Speaker 1: is being driven by my bosses and the bosses at Turner.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is being driven by them. I mean,
Speaker 1: and I understand that everybody's every no one wants to
Speaker 1: lose hundreds of millions of dollars, But what about the
Speaker 1: rank and file players who outnumber the stars ten to
Speaker 1: one in the NBA? What about the rank and file
Speaker 1: players for whom you know, I think it's five hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars on average. So what about the
Speaker 1: average n NBA player who has that salary? Yeah, because
Speaker 1: they're splitting the five hundred million yes with the owners, yes,
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million dollars, and I think I
Speaker 1: figured out it's about five hundred and sixty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a piece on average. Are those guys going to be
Speaker 1: in lockstep? Ye? Well, by the way, what are you
Speaker 1: up to these days? Now? Nothing? I got it's those
Speaker 1: sports and night have no nothing, No, you know, it's um.
Speaker 1: Are you watching anything good? Not yet? So the week
Speaker 1: the week after the NBA playoffs, maybe two weeks out now,
Speaker 1: I just sort of, you know, putsed around and tried
Speaker 1: to act like a father and help a twelve year
Speaker 1: old with homework that I don't understand. But that's gonna
Speaker 1: end quickly, so it's like you're on your own kid.
Speaker 1: So I'm waiting, like, are we gonna get scripted dramas back?
Speaker 1: I'm not a reality TV person. I don't care about
Speaker 1: reality TV. We're gonna get scripted dramas. I know this
Speaker 1: is us was on a We're gonna get like all
Speaker 1: my shows back? Am I gonna have that? Am I
Speaker 1: gonna be forced to read? You know? This is going? Dan?
Speaker 1: This goes back to when you and I were young
Speaker 1: in high school and there wasn't sports every night that
Speaker 1: we could see and we had to do. We had
Speaker 1: to be engaged by other things. Yes there was sports,
Speaker 1: but not every night. There was Monday Night football and
Speaker 1: then you had to skip out so Saturday, right, we
Speaker 1: didn't have stuff Tuesday through Friday. Well that's why I
Speaker 1: think the invention of Big Monday on ESPN A STAB
Speaker 1: established ESPN Sports Center because you had big names and
Speaker 1: then you had the Big Twelve and Big the Big
Speaker 1: East and it led into Sports Center. And back then
Speaker 1: you didn't know what the end result was or you
Speaker 1: didn't see the highlight and you have a build in audience.
Speaker 1: I think that played a large part in being able
Speaker 1: to carry those games, and they went right into sports Center,
Speaker 1: and then sports Center sort of took off and became
Speaker 1: a thing. But when we were grown up, you got
Speaker 1: three minutes local and then you got Howard Cosell on
Speaker 1: Monday Night, who might show a highlight of your team
Speaker 1: half done. That was it. You were done. You know,
Speaker 1: you were done. It was it was like a referendum
Speaker 1: or whether your team fell. If Howard got in there,
Speaker 1: you were in that three minutes. You got like thirty
Speaker 1: seconds of Walter Payton goose stepping in it for me,
Speaker 1: but you know, so, yeah, we got We got all
Speaker 1: this time, and I get why. Look remember a year
Speaker 1: ago there was all this talk about all the Atlanta owner,
Speaker 1: one of the Atlanta owners, that we should shift the
Speaker 1: season had ended in the summer. How quickly has that
Speaker 1: been knocked down? Right? I mean, the NBA can't wait
Speaker 1: to get out there. We have, the NHL hasn't weighed
Speaker 1: in yet loudly, and the NHL season would be going
Speaker 1: on they have been. They have been three weeks in
Speaker 1: by now. Yeah, so what are we gonna have in
Speaker 1: that way? We don't have college basketball for a while
Speaker 1: until January, So it's it's what Man, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is not it's not early pandemic dearth of sports, but
Speaker 1: it feels pretty empty. It feels like we're gonna be
Speaker 1: stuck in this for at least another year. As far
Speaker 1: as affecting sports, when you can play, how long you
Speaker 1: can play? What are the safety protocols? We're finding this
Speaker 1: out with the Big Ten, the Big Ten, it feels
Speaker 1: like fragile right now because of what happened with Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: Does this happen so? How long are they out? How
Speaker 1: many games do they miss? That affects all these other schools.
Speaker 1: And the PAC twelve hasn't even started yet, Mike and
Speaker 1: the Pac twel and look, I mean the whole just
Speaker 1: in California and the fragile nature of the state and
Speaker 1: the number of teams they've got foot four I know
Speaker 1: they haven't. And so the Big Ten situation is fascinating
Speaker 1: because they decided not to build in time. He said,
Speaker 1: this is what we're going to do. And remember Dan,
Speaker 1: those Wisconsin quarterbacks have to sit if those positives were
Speaker 1: confirmed twenty one days. This they like the acc well,
Speaker 1: they're trying to change it though, Mike. They're trying to
Speaker 1: say that they didn't have enough data for the twenty
Speaker 1: one days. Therefore, they want to kind of resend the
Speaker 1: fourteen or something. I think it feels like an amendment's happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and addendum is happening soon here right now. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: whole college football season. You just scared. I didn't know
Speaker 1: so very late last night. Um, you want to know
Speaker 1: what I'm watching. I'm watching Law and Order reruns. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get thro the whole four hundred and fifty again.
Speaker 1: So I'm watching Law and Order reruns last night on Sundance.
Speaker 1: I can tell you off the top of my head
Speaker 1: which which nights are on which networks. And that's something
Speaker 1: just said. Even though there were no games. My son said, Dad,
Speaker 1: aren't you gonna check Sports Center before we And I said, no,
Speaker 1: there's no games. He goes, why don't you just check?
Speaker 1: You always talk about news, And I said, there's no news.
Speaker 1: Click Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, And I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: you know what is this gonna what is this really
Speaker 1: gonna mean? Now? Somehow he'll be available I think for
Speaker 1: the Notre Dame game. Yeah, just somehow somehow. Yeah, Hey,
Speaker 1: great to talk to you. Congrats again for nineteen years
Speaker 1: putting up with Tony. Thanks for joining us, well, thank
Speaker 1: you and thanks you were there at the beginning, like
Speaker 1: you said you. I remember at one point I said, Dan,
Speaker 1: should I be doing this? I know? He said, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Has your brain died while we're sitting here talking? I know?
Speaker 1: I said, you got your own show? They're giving you
Speaker 1: a show? And Tony said the same thing. He goes,
Speaker 1: they want us to just get our big fat heads
Speaker 1: on TV and YAP. And then he goes, quote, does
Speaker 1: anybody care? And I go, they're giving you a show, Tony,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we all use something at least golf, we
Speaker 1: all use something, So thank you. Let me co host
Speaker 1: one time. I love that. You're gonna have to twist
Speaker 1: our arms for that. Yeah, I think the Mothership. I
Speaker 1: think i'd have to You're fine with the Mothership. Now.
Speaker 1: I would have to clear it with them. Okay, So
Speaker 1: we wouldn't be great if I just showed up one
Speaker 1: day and I didn't I didn't connect with anybody the Mothership?
Speaker 1: What would I last the whole half hour? Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we love. I just want to make sure,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm ready. I let's just plant the seed
Speaker 1: one day, mister Tony is on vacation and I just
Speaker 1: show up. I'll be in his attic. I'll just show
Speaker 1: up from his attic. Thank you, my thanks, Dan appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Search FSR to listen live. Some interesting matchups in the
Speaker 1: NFL this weekend. Not a lot of great college football matchups.
Speaker 1: Patriots at the Bills is interesting because Buffalo doesn't normally
Speaker 1: beat New England. You have the Cam Newton situation. How
Speaker 1: tenuous is that? Could he lose his starting job if
Speaker 1: he doesn't play well against Buffalo? Rams at Miami you
Speaker 1: get to see the debut of TUA San Francisco at Seattle.
Speaker 1: Is San Francisco for real? And is this going to
Speaker 1: be a scoring slugfest between the two? Dallas at Philly
Speaker 1: is interesting just because they're two damaged teams. But you
Speaker 1: know one of those two is probably winning the division.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and Ball Baltimore, that's the marquee matchup I want
Speaker 1: to see Baltimore in a big moment here. I want
Speaker 1: them to win a big game here because I've seen
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh go to Tennessee and win. That's a big game.
Speaker 1: Vegas at Cleveland is interesting as well. And I know
Speaker 1: that Baker Mayfield was a little sensitive this week, and
Speaker 1: understandably so, because I think he was asked by the
Speaker 1: local media, you know, will the Browns be better without
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham? And I don't know if they'll be better.
Speaker 1: They're going to be different, and it's not a fair
Speaker 1: question to Baker. I said that Baker will be different,
Speaker 1: the team will be different, and that might mean that
Speaker 1: they have better success as a team. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're a better team without him. I think they're a
Speaker 1: different team without him, and they were playing well with him,
Speaker 1: and he's not the cause of all their problems. Well
Speaker 1: that I know. We like to focus on him. He's
Speaker 1: a lightning rod. But you know, there's other things that
Speaker 1: play with the Cleveland Browns. You know, they were blown
Speaker 1: out twice in games. You know, have they beaten anybody
Speaker 1: where you go? Boy? Now, I got a pretty good
Speaker 1: idea of how good they are. I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where in Las Vegas. Is you know
Speaker 1: how good the Raiders are? Because I feel like they're
Speaker 1: going to be on the cusp of the playoffs, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're a playoff team. I want
Speaker 1: to see them in a big spot and going to
Speaker 1: Cleveland and winning in Cleveland. That would be a big
Speaker 1: spot there. I think that would be an impressive win
Speaker 1: for them. But if you're looking at a primetime game,
Speaker 1: you got Dallas at Philly, Tampa Bay at the Giants.
Speaker 1: Ouch Dallas Philly because the two big markets and the
Speaker 1: fan base for the Cowboys, they probably still do a
Speaker 1: good number. Tampa Bay at the Giants. Is this the
Speaker 1: kind of game the Giants win? Yeah, mccleveland they have
Speaker 1: some COVID issues too, Yes, So I mean if Tom
Speaker 1: Brady might have gotten lucky here might sneak away we won,
Speaker 1: But the Giants actually were in it with the Eagles,
Speaker 1: and they were in it with the Cowboys. They have
Speaker 1: gotten better. They're not winning, but they have gotten They're
Speaker 1: not out of games. They played pretty well. Yeah, MC club.
Speaker 1: I saw one set John Harbaugh. The Ravens is awesome
Speaker 1: after the bye and they're coming off a bye against Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: You know the Clemson Boston College game this weekend. With
Speaker 1: no Trevor Lawrence, Paully has been spending the better part
Speaker 1: of the last day trying to learn how to pronounce
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback for Trevor Lawrence. Have you mastered it yet?
Speaker 1: Paully mastered Yes. No. I His first name is really easy,
Speaker 1: isn't it dj DJ? Was he from Bosco Don Bosco
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles? Yes? Saint John Bosco? Oh, John Bosco?
Speaker 1: Not done? Is his brother John's brother Don not as
Speaker 1: much of a saint by the way, his name is
Speaker 1: David John. Isn't there Don Bosco in Jersey? Yes? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's his brother, but it was Saint John. I don't
Speaker 1: think he was Saint done. My final hour coming up.
Speaker 1: Dave Roberts from the Dodgers and Chris Fowler stops by.