Speaker 1: We recently got asked a question from the brah Meats
Speaker 1: World guys, and I know my answer, of course, but
Speaker 1: I don't know y'all's answer, either of you ever done
Speaker 1: media training?
Speaker 2: No, no, I don't even know what that really means.
Speaker 3: Is that different than astronaut training because I've done astronaut training.
Speaker 1: Wait, you've done astronaut training?
Speaker 2: Oh? No, wow, I was gonna believe you. I wish
Speaker 2: I wish I had. I mean, yes, I did three
Speaker 2: to media training.
Speaker 3: Like seriously, like sitting down and hey, here's how you
Speaker 3: addressed the camera, here's how you talked to I mean
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: I don't actually know. I don't really know. I haven't
Speaker 2: done it either. That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what media training is, but I
Speaker 1: think it's I think, yeah, I think it's I actually
Speaker 1: think it's kind of what we were talking about earlier off air,
Speaker 1: which was the way.
Speaker 2: And how you open up and responded to interviews as
Speaker 2: opposed to just started a podcast and reaching forward. Yeah
Speaker 2: we're not. We're not so good at that. No, just
Speaker 2: kind of figured it out. We just invite everybody on
Speaker 2: and see what happens. I know, but isn't that? What
Speaker 2: isn't that?
Speaker 3: The reason we started this is because we would sit
Speaker 3: down and have earnest, honest, completely open conversations. The problem
Speaker 3: is then we'll sit down with somebody from the press
Speaker 3: and still do that.
Speaker 2: We still do it.
Speaker 1: I know, I do think this is a good I
Speaker 1: and I think Will is this very much the same way.
Speaker 1: But writer, maybe you're not this way. I still when
Speaker 1: I know something, or even when I don't know, we
Speaker 1: are currently in a situation where we know something is
Speaker 1: going to be in the press, and I hate it.
Speaker 1: I don't like being in the press. I don't don't
Speaker 1: like articles.
Speaker 2: Being written about us.
Speaker 1: I knew it was going to happen when we started
Speaker 1: the podcast, because that's just the way this works.
Speaker 2: But I even going into it.
Speaker 1: That was the number one negative for me of starting
Speaker 1: the podcast was, Oh, gosh, we're going to be in
Speaker 1: the news.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was going to be this much. Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm honest with you.
Speaker 1: You have no idea we were going to be in
Speaker 1: the news this much. Now, never could have predicted, but
Speaker 1: I thought I knew it was going to happen. Ever,
Speaker 1: and even that idea bummed me out. But I don't
Speaker 1: think writer, I don't. Do you feel that way too,
Speaker 1: or are you the type who because you are so
Speaker 1: into social conversation and having those kind of dialogues more
Speaker 1: comfortable with Yeah, it's honest, I said it. I'm fine
Speaker 1: with it. Let's open up a discussion and put it
Speaker 1: out into the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's bad. And I think I'm just my problem.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think I'm a bad famous person. Like
Speaker 4: you guys are very good at being famous people. I
Speaker 4: feel like I'm pretty horrible at it in that I
Speaker 4: just hate it. I avoid it and so in a
Speaker 4: weird way. Yes that I think that makes me probably
Speaker 4: like like I can turn it off, do you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? Like, I just I shut off this part.
Speaker 4: I don't read about myself and don't google. But I
Speaker 4: don't try try out my public image or think about it,
Speaker 4: even to my detriment when I was acting, you know, like.
Speaker 2: It would have been good to You have to think strategically.
Speaker 4: About your image and how people perceive you capitalize on
Speaker 4: that for your projects, Like that's part of being a
Speaker 4: famous person, you know, you you know, create a hairline
Speaker 4: if that's what you're known for.
Speaker 2: Danielle and you you.
Speaker 4: Do good work with what you have, as you know,
Speaker 4: and I've never been able to do that. I've just
Speaker 4: run away from the spotlight. So yeah, I mean, but
Speaker 4: it's also completely different now than it used to be.
Speaker 3: Trying So I remember back in the day, we would
Speaker 3: be you know, you're you're on a show and you're
Speaker 3: probably doing movies in between, or you know, voice or
Speaker 3: whatever it is, and we all I know that I did.
Speaker 2: I'll speak for myself.
Speaker 3: At one point, you hire a publicist, and so I
Speaker 3: had a publicist for a few months. And by the
Speaker 3: fourth kind of weird photoshoot or you know, talk show
Speaker 3: that I didn't really belong on, I kind of I
Speaker 3: became friends with my publicist and I was like, dude,
Speaker 3: this is this is just not for me, wasn't it was, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it wasn't about branding so much back in the day.
Speaker 3: Now it's like you brand yourself all over the place
Speaker 3: in social media, which I don't do it all and
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. I mean, it's it's so
Speaker 3: different now that it's just it's very bizarre, and it's
Speaker 3: it's gotten worse for me where I'm the same way
Speaker 3: writer or I just like I don't want to think
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 3: And then you know, you read one bad thing about
Speaker 3: yourself and it's like my my weeks.
Speaker 2: Are ruined, and it's like, oh man, I don't want
Speaker 2: to do this anymore. We're in a weird time because
Speaker 2: in some ways we crave.
Speaker 4: Like it used to be that, you know, people would
Speaker 4: have parasocial relationships with musicians or actors or whatever, and
Speaker 4: that that relationship would be mediated by like editorial boards,
Speaker 4: you know, or like we're you know, publications that or
Speaker 4: talk shows. But now you can have a one on
Speaker 4: one relationship based on Instagram or Twitter or whatever a
Speaker 4: middle person, so that and and so that it's broken
Speaker 4: down that control and created in some ways a more
Speaker 4: authentic parasocial relationship where like you know, I know that
Speaker 4: Billie Eilish gets on stage or Tailor Switch gets on
Speaker 4: stage and they talk to their fans and there is
Speaker 4: like you know me and I know you, and there's
Speaker 4: like this one to But in other ways that just
Speaker 4: becomes that can just become a different performance of authenticity animals,
Speaker 4: and a more invasive one at that because then it's
Speaker 4: like you're you're you are always performing a version of
Speaker 4: who you are, you know, and that's something that I'm
Speaker 4: you know that this podcast is really interesting because we've
Speaker 4: invited people into our lives, you know, to a degree.
Speaker 4: But I feel very authentic, mostly because I'm with YouTube,
Speaker 4: you know. Like I think if I was sitting down
Speaker 4: with a talk show host and questions about Boy Meets World,
Speaker 4: I would be reticent to be as open as I
Speaker 4: am on our own podcast.
Speaker 1: Well, I've noticed, even for us, the difference between the
Speaker 1: way we used to respond at conventions in the Q
Speaker 1: and A versus the way sometimes.
Speaker 2: Now we all respond in the Q and A.
Speaker 1: That our old Q and A answers were usually very
Speaker 1: concise things that were mostly fan service oriented. It didn't
Speaker 1: make them not true. It was just what can I
Speaker 1: say that isn't going to take this too deep? That's
Speaker 1: going to give an answer that people will understand. And
Speaker 1: now when we do Q and AS, the questions we
Speaker 1: get that are much more tailored and adjusted. Because of
Speaker 1: podmets World, our answers have also become more truly authentic
Speaker 1: to who we are, and so it has It's been
Speaker 1: in some ways it's been nerve wracking to let people in.
Speaker 2: On the very very real, significantly.
Speaker 1: Less masked versions of ourselves that every celebrity or famous
Speaker 1: person has to put out there. This is much more,
Speaker 1: you know, just us nake it. Yeah, And it's in
Speaker 1: some ways been very freeing and very nice, and then
Speaker 1: in other ways still very nerve wracking.
Speaker 3: I mean I used to I know that for me,
Speaker 3: it was my my you know, security blanket. I used
Speaker 3: to just deflect everything with humor because you could do
Speaker 3: it very quickly. You know, somebody would say something, I'd
Speaker 3: shout out something that was funny, and then they move
Speaker 3: on to the next question.
Speaker 2: You can't do that when you're talking for an hour
Speaker 2: at a time, right, It can't just be yeah, exactly right,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: So it's it's you know, it's but to what you
Speaker 3: were saying, writer, that's that's the one of the good
Speaker 3: and bad things. It's mostly in my opinion, bad thing
Speaker 3: about social media. And you see it with bullying.
Speaker 2: It's like when kids used to leave school, the bullying
Speaker 2: would stop.
Speaker 3: They had a safe place at home. But now that
Speaker 3: there's social media, it never stops. It's with them all
Speaker 3: the time. It's the same thing with celebrities. You used
Speaker 3: to leave the stage, we would wave we would take
Speaker 3: our bow, we would get into our cars, we would
Speaker 3: drive home, and it would just be a quiet kind
Speaker 3: of ugh.
Speaker 2: But now with social media that never goes away.
Speaker 4: I would say though that I actually think the worst
Speaker 4: period of uh being famous was like two thousand to
Speaker 4: two thousand and eight ish, like before social media, because yeah, man,
Speaker 4: that was when the paparazzi like and that's when you're
Speaker 4: talking about Brady Spears and like the area of people's
Speaker 4: and teams era. That was when people's lives like I
Speaker 4: I mean, it's I think it was that reality TV
Speaker 4: era where it was still in the control of people
Speaker 4: who were publishing the magazines and publishing the TV shows,
Speaker 4: and they were exploitative to a degree and invasive to
Speaker 4: a degree. It was it was it was financially viable
Speaker 4: or they were incentivized to ruin people's lives and to
Speaker 4: invade people's lives in a way that now like we
Speaker 4: throw the door open, you know, because we can be
Speaker 4: the gatekeepers of our own privacy with social media. You know,
Speaker 4: it's interesting to me that like, im like I am available,
Speaker 4: like people can I'm on Twitter, Like if you want
Speaker 4: to send me a message, you can't and for the
Speaker 4: most part, people don't, you know, like people don't because
Speaker 4: and that's great, you know. I'm like, Okay, this door
Speaker 4: is always open, like you can contact me if you
Speaker 4: want to. I'm you know, but I feel like before
Speaker 4: social media there was more of a like uh it
Speaker 4: was privacy was sort of more valued and therefore more invaded,
Speaker 4: if that may like it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think like that period was way worse
Speaker 2: and I'm glad it's over.
Speaker 3: But I think it culminated in a large way with
Speaker 3: Princess Diana. I mean where the paparazzi were kind of
Speaker 3: responsible for killing this woman.
Speaker 2: I don't know the culminated. I think it got even
Speaker 2: I mean I think it got worse after that. I
Speaker 2: mean that was I think that was kind of head
Speaker 2: shaved moment.
Speaker 3: Was that was nuts the Britney head But I mean
Speaker 3: it was like they paparazzi helped to kill this woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It's getting was getting No.
Speaker 4: I think it's that this whole part of the same progression.
Speaker 4: I just know that like for me, like part of
Speaker 4: the reason that I wanted to keep my head down
Speaker 4: and avoid anything in the public from two thousand on
Speaker 4: was because of that specific culture, Like it was so
Speaker 4: off to me, and I was not the type of
Speaker 4: person that was like okay with walking into parts of
Speaker 4: Like you were just that period. If you went anywhere
Speaker 4: in Los Angeles that was slightly populated by famous people,
Speaker 4: you just had to deal with being harassed and photographed
Speaker 4: and videoed everywhere you went.
Speaker 2: That's not really the case anymore. I don't think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I just I never dealt with that though,
Speaker 3: because you never went out I left my house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you.
Speaker 4: Went out, it was like those era, like if you
Speaker 4: went into West Hollywood or the Sunset Strip, you went,
Speaker 4: it was it was crazy, Like people would I would
Speaker 4: go shopping in the middle of the day in those
Speaker 4: parts of town and like cars would screech to a
Speaker 4: halt and some dude would jump out taking my photograph
Speaker 4: and I'd be like, Hi, do you want to talk
Speaker 4: to me?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: And they'd be just be yelling at me like yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: And I'm like but but like you could pull over
Speaker 4: and ask to take a photograph, like what do we
Speaker 4: do it here? We're playing this game of like gotcha?
Speaker 4: That is horrifying.
Speaker 2: It's a terrible feeling too.
Speaker 1: I remember being actually scared I had a photographer jump
Speaker 1: out at me at the parking lot at the Grove
Speaker 1: from like behind a car, and I was like ah,
Speaker 1: and then like now you want to talk to me
Speaker 1: and ask me a normal question? Like you just terrified me? No,
Speaker 1: I don't, what are you doing? Get away from me?
Speaker 1: But it's really interesting because this episode that we are
Speaker 1: recapping today made me. It was like, oh, what a
Speaker 1: timely episode for us. Yeah, so we can jump into it.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fishall, I'm Rider Strong,
Speaker 1: and I'm Wilfredell Orlando. In case you haven't heard, we
Speaker 1: are coming to you on September seventeenth at the hard
Speaker 1: Rock Live. Tony Quinn is going to be joining us,
Speaker 1: and we had previously been sold out, but there were
Speaker 1: just two hundred tickets released, so if you want to
Speaker 1: be there, you've got an opportunity, but not much. And
Speaker 1: we are also coming to Philly and New York. Tickets
Speaker 1: are available and guests are ready to be announced soon.
Speaker 1: We will be at the Met in Philadelphia on September thirtieth,
Speaker 1: and we will be at New York Town Hall in
Speaker 1: the New York Comedy Fest on November ninth. You can
Speaker 1: go to Podmeats worldshow dot com for tickets. Welcome to
Speaker 1: season three, episode number seven, Truth and Consequences. It originally
Speaker 1: aired November tenth, nineteen ninety five. The synopsis is that
Speaker 1: Sean and Corey are on the hunt for a juicy
Speaker 1: investigative report in their journalism class it's actually the media
Speaker 1: arts class, but their scoop ends up getting Janitor Bud fired. Also,
Speaker 1: Eric participates in a sleep study. It was directed by
Speaker 1: Jeff McCracken. It was written by Donna Truehiho trueO trueO
Speaker 1: t r U j I l l O.
Speaker 2: Do you guys remember I?
Speaker 3: Do I do? Remember?
Speaker 2: You remember?
Speaker 3: Do you?
Speaker 4: I can remember the name sounds so premilire. I swear
Speaker 4: I have an image of a person in my head
Speaker 4: if I but maybe wash she not on staff.
Speaker 1: I don't think she was on but because I don't
Speaker 1: remember the name. But also I have a terrible memory,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. Guest stars Alex de serraz Eli,
Speaker 1: will Williams Blake Soaper as Joey Joey They're at Epstein,
Speaker 1: Kathy Trajissar as Monique, and Bob Larkin as Janitor Budd.
Speaker 2: Who does some.
Speaker 1: Pretty impressive work in this episode. Before we jump into
Speaker 1: our recap, does anybody have any over arching thoughts? I
Speaker 1: can go first. I enjoyed this episode. I enjoyed it. Finally,
Speaker 1: I feel like Season three has been a little bit
Speaker 1: of a Season three has missed the mark for me
Speaker 1: in a lot of episodes. There have been some great moments,
Speaker 1: and I think some really funny moments.
Speaker 2: But I liked this episode a lot. Me too.
Speaker 4: I loved it. I did not think it was super funny, No,
Speaker 4: but I really I loved its complexity, the way it
Speaker 4: leans into ambiguity for the adults, and like so like thematically,
Speaker 4: I feel like this is the boy meets World sweet spot.
Speaker 4: As far as like the message, I loved it.
Speaker 2: Nobody agreed.
Speaker 4: I mean that that and Eli's or Alex is so
Speaker 4: good as it was cool to see him finally having
Speaker 4: a moment, and yeah, there's a lot of there's tons
Speaker 4: of fun stuff in here.
Speaker 2: I you know, the storyline was ridiculous.
Speaker 3: It's like it's it was just so unnecessary and plugged
Speaker 3: in that it's like, why even do it? Just add
Speaker 3: more to the a story and give me a week off?
Speaker 3: Because it's just really makes no sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It is comic relief, and it's it's
Speaker 2: a good comic relief.
Speaker 3: It's not in any way, shape or form adding to anything.
Speaker 3: It's not big Gafa laughs. It's just kind of like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's a page of kind of like, Okay, he's got
Speaker 3: no brain.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to see if this continues to set up
Speaker 1: the truly brain dead Eric.
Speaker 3: I think I think it will. I always say this
Speaker 3: is the genesis, this is the genesis. But this is
Speaker 3: where he started to get really ridiculous, where it's.
Speaker 2: Like the mouse.
Speaker 3: The mouse has brain activity and Eric doesn't. It's like
Speaker 3: that's this is when they just went crazy pants with it.
Speaker 3: I loved the A story. I thought the A story
Speaker 3: was great, but the BET story I thought was just ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It's also this pattern that is asserting itself of like
Speaker 2: the beautiful woman with authority that comes into the X life,
Speaker 2: which is not like the third time she can be
Speaker 2: the hairstylist. She can be yeah, she can.
Speaker 4: Obviously like a formula. I was like, well, let's get
Speaker 4: an attractive woman in here, and that's why.
Speaker 3: You know that will be They've also they set it
Speaker 3: up in one of the school classrooms.
Speaker 2: Nobody else is registered.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just the whole thing is so ridiculously
Speaker 3: stupid that it's like it's you just didn't need it.
Speaker 2: But he just did and you were having fun, and
Speaker 2: I think it is fun, right, Yeah, I mean I guess.
Speaker 3: I just it's one of those things where this is
Speaker 3: where it started to be to me, and I distinctly
Speaker 3: remember this week because it started to be to me like, oh,
Speaker 3: they're doing a good television show and occasionally they're going
Speaker 3: to cut me to do ridiculous stuff like That's where
Speaker 3: I remember thinking this. I remember this week like, oh,
Speaker 3: they're doing something like where they're acting and it's you know,
Speaker 3: they've got there's good story story lines.
Speaker 2: The parents have great storylines.
Speaker 3: Phoene's got a great storyline, the kids all have a
Speaker 3: great storyline.
Speaker 2: And now here's Eric being an idiot. Like that's what
Speaker 2: I remember.
Speaker 3: This is where it really set it up for me,
Speaker 3: where it's like, oh, I wonder if this is what
Speaker 3: it's going to be.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, I think it is. And I don't know
Speaker 2: if that's necessarily a horrible thing. I think it is.
Speaker 2: If you're the one constantly doing the ridiculus, you enjoyed it,
Speaker 2: you had fun. I would rather have been in the
Speaker 2: better storyline.
Speaker 3: I mean that's how I was every week is I
Speaker 3: always would rather have been in the better storyline where
Speaker 3: I got to act, I got to do stuff where
Speaker 3: the comedy came from that as opposed to again, I
Speaker 3: always thought it was like, we're doing this great show
Speaker 3: and while they run off and change wardrobe, we're gonna
Speaker 3: have you dance on on the stage rather than the
Speaker 3: show comes back on.
Speaker 2: And that's always what it started to be like to me.
Speaker 2: It's all about balance. You know.
Speaker 4: It's sort of like in cooking, and you know they
Speaker 4: talk about like there's five different flavors yea sweet. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so you feel like I feel like when the show
Speaker 4: starts to get too dramatic, they need just some geographs
Speaker 4: And like I came that like.
Speaker 3: Season I know, yeah great, but there's times I wanted
Speaker 3: to be the main course.
Speaker 2: I didn't just want to be the salt sprinkled on
Speaker 2: the top totally.
Speaker 3: That's so to use your analogy, it was, I was
Speaker 3: always watching these great shows happening, and then it was like,
Speaker 3: all right, now go dance for you know, a page
Speaker 3: and a half to make us laugh, and then we're
Speaker 3: going to get back into the real show.
Speaker 2: I don't remember.
Speaker 4: I know we've talked about this for years actually, like
Speaker 4: you know, but I don't remember you expressing any of
Speaker 4: that at the time.
Speaker 3: Of course, not because I wasn't expressing anything at the time.
Speaker 3: I didn't go up and I didn't go up into the.
Speaker 2: Producers and say here's what I want my character to be.
Speaker 3: I never was never doing that, So it was it
Speaker 3: wasn't until later where I started to assert myself a
Speaker 3: little bit where it was, you know, fifth, sixth, seventh season.
Speaker 2: You know, by we're still third season.
Speaker 3: I'm still doing what they tell me to do whenever
Speaker 3: they tell me to do it. And I wasn't arguing like, hey,
Speaker 3: wait a second, why am I you know, why is this?
Speaker 2: And again, this was just the start, so I didn't
Speaker 2: know what was going to happen.
Speaker 3: But I'm guessing by six or seven episodes of this,
Speaker 3: it's going to be like, oh, and let's cut to
Speaker 3: Eric for some wackiness while we, you know, then have
Speaker 3: the real show going on around him.
Speaker 2: After a while, it just got to be too much.
Speaker 2: It was like, no, see, I don't remember.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know you've expressed that retrospectively, But I
Speaker 4: remember the time you loving them like you just making
Speaker 4: people laugh.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'll never I'll never not love making people laugh
Speaker 3: for hamming it up. Of course I always loved doing that.
Speaker 3: But I would always sit there during the run throughs
Speaker 3: and stuff and be like, that's the show I want
Speaker 3: to be on, like watching your because again, this a
Speaker 3: storyline was great, and then it was just kind of
Speaker 3: cutting to which again in the classroom, made no sense.
Speaker 3: Then there's like all the doctors around him at the end,
Speaker 3: it's just kind of like, all right, this is this
Speaker 3: is this is my life.
Speaker 2: This is what I'm doing from now. You don't ever,
Speaker 2: I mean I always thought I always assumed that it
Speaker 2: was more of the opposite, that you were sort of
Speaker 2: rolling your eyes, that the sentimentality and the like.
Speaker 3: When it got ridiculous towards the end where like, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: when it was the Corey Tapanga stuff where it got
Speaker 3: to be like, you know, you could tell that it
Speaker 3: was kind of an unhealthy, obsessive relationship. It was like
Speaker 3: when it got to that, and then when it really
Speaker 3: got to stuff where it's like our little brother was
Speaker 3: born and.
Speaker 2: Everything's taking place in the knee que.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's when it was like, okay, I'll stick
Speaker 3: in my lane.
Speaker 2: But we weren't there yet. It wasn't by that point.
Speaker 3: I liked it because then it was like, all right,
Speaker 3: let's get the people laughing again.
Speaker 2: But we weren't there yet.
Speaker 3: This was now like I saw a really cool show
Speaker 3: being done around me, and I was just doing this stuff.
Speaker 3: And so I didn't dislike it because I knew I
Speaker 3: was going to be getting all the laughs.
Speaker 2: But I would.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're watching like Joey in there and Feenie
Speaker 3: and Eli and they're on different sets and you guys
Speaker 3: are doing it. It was just a better show that
Speaker 3: I was watching. Frankly, so yeah, that's again. Loved the
Speaker 3: a story of this one. Looked at mine and I
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, I get what I'm doing. It's it
Speaker 3: is what it is.
Speaker 1: So we did just get an update that Donna true heo.
Speaker 1: I think I'm saying that correctly. If I'm not, please
Speaker 1: forgive me. She wrote another episode in season three, so
Speaker 1: she must have been on staff for season three. So
Speaker 1: let's jump into our recap. We start in the school cafeteria.
Speaker 1: Slash and mister Williams classroom. Sean is filming Corey for
Speaker 1: a school news report, and we see the lunch lady,
Speaker 1: Bertha von Buloh. He says she is a former nanny
Speaker 1: for the Gorbachev family and now makes Russian treats at
Speaker 1: John Adams High. Her specialty is red square jello.
Speaker 4: So John with a news report and the handheld camera,
Speaker 4: we look at the show, which is so interesting that
Speaker 4: we didn't do that when the actual news team was like,
Speaker 4: we just used you can't see the cameras where it's here.
Speaker 4: It's a old camera talk giant window she's in. Was
Speaker 4: that always there in the cafeteria?
Speaker 1: No, although maybe I'm wondering if there had been a
Speaker 1: one of the like a poll down there before, But no,
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: That was all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because when Corey, like in the last episode, Corey
Speaker 4: was on, they created like a stage for a pep
Speaker 4: rally right there. Yeah, and there was just a wall
Speaker 4: behind him if I remember.
Speaker 2: So that so that was built for this episode.
Speaker 1: It could also be another cafeteria on the many many
Speaker 1: floors of the.
Speaker 2: Tower that is John Adams High. Is there.
Speaker 4: It has to be the one where there's a time
Speaker 4: punch a time card punch.
Speaker 2: There's a time card puncher there.
Speaker 1: There's also this sleep study room on another floor of
Speaker 1: the tower, so listen.
Speaker 2: Architects that built to Matthew's house, John Adams leaning Tower
Speaker 2: of Peace out.
Speaker 1: So Sean pans the camera over to two pretty girls
Speaker 1: at the vending machine and asks if they want to
Speaker 1: be in the pictures. They laugh, but Corey gets Sean's
Speaker 1: attention again, and he stuffs red jello in his mouth
Speaker 1: and says freedom never tasted so good. The video stops
Speaker 1: and we're now in mister Williams class and he calls
Speaker 1: on Corey and Sean to wake up. They fell asleep
Speaker 1: during their own assignment. Sean thinks the video stinks, but
Speaker 1: Corey tells him to shush because maybe mister Williams doesn't know.
Speaker 2: That, but Alex says he knows, he knows.
Speaker 1: Tapeka says students have the right to know how their
Speaker 1: food is prepared and compliments Corey's report, and mister Williams
Speaker 1: says Corey has himself a good woman, but questions how
Speaker 1: jello is news, and Sean says, when it's used for evil,
Speaker 1: so very funny. I'm already starting to pick up on
Speaker 1: the subtle themes, maybe not so subtle of when really
Speaker 1: what women do in relationships that are good.
Speaker 2: And that is one of them is.
Speaker 1: Defend your man, even when he's a maroone.
Speaker 2: Just gonna point that out there. Did you like your
Speaker 2: performance in this episode, Danielle, I was better in this
Speaker 2: one than I have been in ones. For sure. It
Speaker 2: was great.
Speaker 1: It was significantly better funny, you know, I felt like
Speaker 1: there was a character there.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's character development, and this is nice, Like you're
Speaker 2: like even a little bit of backstory.
Speaker 1: Katie cork and I say don't eat which I wish
Speaker 1: had been don't eat pork, because then maybe we could
Speaker 1: have tied.
Speaker 2: In the Little Cory. We're getting ahead of ourselves.
Speaker 1: Mister william says An, as a news reporter, you have
Speaker 1: to tell the truth and make it interesting, then tells
Speaker 1: the boys they have to redo their assignment.
Speaker 2: Sean says media art is supposed.
Speaker 1: To be an easy a and Corey says, maybe he
Speaker 1: doesn't know that, but mister Williams says, again, oh he knows.
Speaker 2: He knows that.
Speaker 1: They go on air in four days, but Corey doesn't
Speaker 1: seem too concerned. They go on after the Origami lady,
Speaker 1: but Tapenga says she's actually awesome and can fold herself
Speaker 1: up into a ship, and Sean slyly says, nothing.
Speaker 2: Wrong with that.
Speaker 1: It's the beginning of us figuring out Sean has some
Speaker 1: ship fetish.
Speaker 2: Or weird sexual the horn Dog this entire episode, which
Speaker 2: I was like, because even like me in the beginning,
Speaker 2: flirting with the girls, right the what is the point
Speaker 2: of it, Like they want to be in.
Speaker 3: Forgetting that voice, you want to help me find my puppy, Like,
Speaker 3: I'm glad you didn't.
Speaker 2: You didn't do that. I think it would have been funnier.
Speaker 2: Now I was grossed out by like Seawans horn Dog
Speaker 2: or just kind of bored. It's just like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just a remind I think.
Speaker 1: You know, they were appealing to the teen boy contingent
Speaker 1: of the nineties, and they needed to keep reminding you
Speaker 1: that they're all teen boys.
Speaker 2: Also playing to all our tropes.
Speaker 3: Now, Eric D Sean girl crazy to Payga, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of supporting Corey but don't eat veal Corey in
Speaker 3: the middle not knowing what's going on. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: like now we're all hitting our stride for exactly what
Speaker 3: our characters are, so it's kind of interesting that there
Speaker 3: were still there's still not a depth to them in
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of ways, but.
Speaker 2: We're at least hitting the what we're supposed to be
Speaker 2: or what we're going to become. Yeah, Sean, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think Sean is like the sort of ladies man
Speaker 4: is funnier, you know what I mean, like for better works,
Speaker 4: like when I flirted with the teacher in the beginning
Speaker 4: of second season, very first funny, Yeah, because it's like
Speaker 4: I'm sophisticated in all the wrong ways, right, Yeah, this
Speaker 4: this episode, I'm just like like a hitting on girls
Speaker 4: with a camera.
Speaker 2: It's just not clever, it's just kind.
Speaker 1: I also really liked it when like you had the
Speaker 1: thirty foot range where it was like we can't help it, man,
Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, yeah, ladies are just drawn to me.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think Sean is like the like it doesn't
Speaker 4: even have to worry about it, ladies. Man, it's funnier
Speaker 4: than this version of Sean, which is.
Speaker 3: Just and then when you did actually go after a woman,
Speaker 3: you did it wrong. Yes, that's always so funny. So
Speaker 3: you already go up and go I'm a cop, you know,
Speaker 3: like stuff like that that's hysterically funny. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 3: there's a there's a depth to it. Girls always flock
Speaker 3: to you, but the ones you want you didn't.
Speaker 5: Know how to.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, yeah, that's great. So yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Well, then we're in Turner's apartment. Corey walks in and
Speaker 1: Sean rushes Corey to the window to where a woman
Speaker 1: is dancing in a towel. Sean says she does it
Speaker 1: every day at five point thirty and starts filming. Turner
Speaker 1: walks in and sees the boys walks in.
Speaker 4: How about that music when she's It's like, it's like
Speaker 4: a fool music? Why are we hearing the music because
Speaker 4: we're like through too. We're across the street right filming
Speaker 4: somebody at another apartment. But when the camera is outside
Speaker 4: the window, we can hear the music that she's dancing
Speaker 4: to in her towel.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I didn't even think. I didn't even heard.
Speaker 2: It's so funny. Back to the apartment and we can't
Speaker 2: hear it. So it's like, oh, so the it says
Speaker 2: the windows open right, yes, and like so as an
Speaker 2: audience of the camera, we can hear it, but it's just,
Speaker 2: you know, funny check that it's not about that, but
Speaker 2: that's what I was thinking of, you know, clearly the
Speaker 2: music is in.
Speaker 1: So Turner walks in, sees the boys looking out the
Speaker 1: window and says, five thirty.
Speaker 2: Huh man, my watch must be slow. He then tells
Speaker 2: them funny joke.
Speaker 1: He then tells them to get away from the window
Speaker 1: and asks what they're doing with the camera. Corey responds
Speaker 1: saying it's homework and they're shooting a news report. Turner
Speaker 1: asks if they think the woman in the towel is news,
Speaker 1: and Corey says, we think she's up to no good.
Speaker 1: Turner tells them to turn the camera off, but as
Speaker 1: he's explaining why, he notices the towel fell off and
Speaker 1: the boys start fumbling all over themselves to keep recording.
Speaker 1: Turner grabs the camera, explains that exploiting someone's body is
Speaker 1: not news and tells them that they should watch the
Speaker 1: five thirty news on TV to see real journalism. He
Speaker 1: then turns on the TV and there's a news report
Speaker 1: about breast enlargements, and he turns the TV off again
Speaker 1: and Sean just looks at him, so great, It's great.
Speaker 4: After you know, like hearing you recap it after watching
Speaker 4: the rest of the episode. This sets up everything. It
Speaker 4: sets up the dynamic, which is you don't exploit somebody
Speaker 4: just for the sake of your you know, it's really
Speaker 4: clever that, you know, what's what is just a sort
Speaker 4: of horny boy scene actually thematically links exactly right to
Speaker 4: the skyline and then of course the cynas system of
Speaker 4: the television the actual news having gone here too is
Speaker 4: a great point.
Speaker 3: And Tony gives the best Tony Quinn face when he
Speaker 3: shuts off the TV. He just like and he's got
Speaker 3: his eyebrow going up and it's like the oh, it's
Speaker 3: it's so Tony.
Speaker 2: It's I also.
Speaker 4: Love I love the Turner relationship with Sean and Corey,
Speaker 4: which is this authority figure, but with what he's not
Speaker 4: shaming them for right, Like he's not walking in and
Speaker 4: being like, how dare you look at a girl? It's like,
Speaker 4: I get it, I understand why you want to look
Speaker 4: at a naked woman. Let's just be smart and appropriate
Speaker 4: about this. It's not like a you know, it's a
Speaker 4: perfectly appropriate it's a perfect father figure vibes where he's
Speaker 4: not judging them for having feelings. He's just you know,
Speaker 4: telling them to be more responsible about those feelings, and
Speaker 4: it's just it's really well put.
Speaker 3: So I don't we don't have to harp on this,
Speaker 3: and I don't know if this is in fact true
Speaker 3: or not. And this is pure speculation on my point,
Speaker 3: on my part, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: But the more I'm watching.
Speaker 3: Tony, the more it makes no sense that he wasn't
Speaker 3: brought back to the show. Something else had to be
Speaker 3: going on that we don't know about. Had to because
Speaker 3: he's perfect, and the relationship with everybody is so good.
Speaker 3: He fits in seamlessly. He's perfect for Sean. He's now
Speaker 3: spending more time with Corey. We do not know the
Speaker 3: story of why Tony left. I'm convinced of that because
Speaker 3: it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: Well, we I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I would love because I love this idea and I
Speaker 1: love this theory, and I want to I want to
Speaker 1: be like, yes, let's get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1: I don't remember anything leading up to what actually happens
Speaker 1: story wise for him to go away, so.
Speaker 2: I want to we will. We will uncover it in
Speaker 2: live time, because I because it doesn't make any sense
Speaker 2: where we are right now.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that he's just till the end of
Speaker 1: the season and then got it.
Speaker 5: So yeah.
Speaker 1: So then we're in the school cafeteria. Janitor Bud is
Speaker 1: chasing a student, Leonard, saying that a nervous stomach is
Speaker 1: nothing to be ashamed of. Phoene comes up and tells
Speaker 1: Janitor Budd he shouldn't embarrass a student like that, but
Speaker 1: he says they're tight as the student runs away.
Speaker 2: Janitor Budd is Leonard one of Michael's kids, sus that
Speaker 2: I thought, so too, is it really?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: Is it David? It might be David, because it's really
Speaker 2: I didn't recognize him. Oh.
Speaker 4: I was like, why is there somebody under eighteen as
Speaker 4: an extra in the scene? It makes no sense? And
Speaker 4: then I was like, oh, that's one of the Jacob's kids,
Speaker 4: but I couldn't recognize which one was.
Speaker 2: I said this same thing, it's one of the Jacob's
Speaker 2: kids in an uncredited sort of appearance, because there's no
Speaker 2: reason why there would be a kid in an extra
Speaker 2: position like that. Didn't Bud also mention the name Leonard
Speaker 2: before that? Rang in my ears?
Speaker 3: Isn't there an episode where he says something about Leonard.
Speaker 1: I also thought one of our original nerds from the
Speaker 1: beginning of season two was named Leonard. But then Jensen
Speaker 1: reminded me that Lenny Spinelli is technically a Leonard, so
Speaker 1: maybe Leonard's just in our head from there too.
Speaker 3: But I feel like Bud Jenner Budd has said said
Speaker 3: the name Leonard before.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, they brought this character back. Was the
Speaker 2: first thing I thought, Well, I agree with you. I
Speaker 2: think it is David. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I think you're stupid. I didn't even put it in
Speaker 1: my notes because I said it out loud. And then
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, and I'm not really
Speaker 1: sure I care to spend the I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: have a way to figure it out. And then I
Speaker 1: forgot about it because you said it as a character.
Speaker 1: Because he doesn't okay, so janitor Bud then chases him
Speaker 1: out and says, I still love the chase that poor
Speaker 1: kid with ibs. And then Foene joins Turner and Williams
Speaker 1: for lunch, and Turner asks about all the beautiful women
Speaker 1: outside Phoene's office. Turns out Phoene is interviewing secretaries because
Speaker 1: Missus Wooley is moving to Florida to be with her
Speaker 1: grand grandkids. The littlest one just turned fifty, which I
Speaker 1: thought is a great joke, funny Joe joke. And then
Speaker 1: he says a couple of people chipped into buy Missus
Speaker 1: Wooly and oxygen tank. And when Turner says that isn't funny,
Speaker 1: Phoene explains she's a certified scuba diver. Foene sure does
Speaker 1: love him some scuba.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, he's a teacher at the local school of school.
Speaker 3: Love scuba yep, big fan of scuba.
Speaker 1: Sean says there is nothing out there to do their
Speaker 1: news report on then suggest this story.
Speaker 4: We just ran through that joke like like it doesn't
Speaker 4: get a laugh, but the idea that there's because that's funny, Like, oh,
Speaker 4: there's nothing else out there. Now we've been told not
Speaker 4: to do no one, We're to order the lunch lady.
Speaker 4: Like that could have been funny if I had hit
Speaker 4: it harder, but I was just like, there's nothing else
Speaker 4: out there, just blue right through it.
Speaker 2: But you know what, I don't know that it was
Speaker 2: I don't know that it was meant to be a joke.
Speaker 1: It is funny as an adult who like looks at
Speaker 1: kids and goes, there's a billion topics in the world,
Speaker 1: and the only two you can think of is the
Speaker 1: cafeteria lady or of a naked woman. But I do
Speaker 1: think that they were trying to set up this idea
Speaker 1: of man, we're going to have to scramble for something
Speaker 1: because I'm out of ideas. So I don't necessarily know
Speaker 1: that it was supposed to get a laugh, but I
Speaker 1: know what you mean.
Speaker 2: I know it is.
Speaker 1: It is certainly a place where you could have found
Speaker 1: a laugh, right had you played it.
Speaker 3: This is a whole new shirt for Sean, by the way,
Speaker 3: this whole this black and white shirt that he's wearing
Speaker 3: is a whole new, whole new get up. Wow.
Speaker 1: I mean, we we have seen that Vlure shirt. I
Speaker 1: remember so well, the one with the striped allures. We've
Speaker 1: seen I think I think it's in this episode again,
Speaker 1: and it was in the last one.
Speaker 2: I remember it, and remember you.
Speaker 3: Got the vest and everything. But this is a whole
Speaker 3: new They're trying a whole new thing here. I was like, Wow,
Speaker 3: that's it. That's a different look for Sean right now.
Speaker 2: So interesting.
Speaker 1: Sean suggests they could do a story on his uncle
Speaker 1: Vic who was set up, but it may not work
Speaker 1: because there's a good chance he'd kill them killed.
Speaker 2: It makes me wonder whether or not he was set up.
Speaker 1: Corey suggests they find a scandal at school, but Sean
Speaker 1: says there is no scandal at school. Right then, Joey
Speaker 1: comes into the cafeteria trying to sell stolen tires, and
Speaker 1: Corey has an idea that if they followed Joey, they
Speaker 1: find a story.
Speaker 2: And now this begins what is probably the greatest blake
Speaker 2: performance of any episode.
Speaker 3: On It is bend something four times.
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: I hope it's you suck I pulled.
Speaker 2: The clip is a clip, but it's perfect.
Speaker 4: But even in this beat, he shows up the tires tires,
Speaker 4: and then he shows up with the tubes saw and
Speaker 4: then did you guys notice his look of disgust at us? Yes,
Speaker 4: not buying the tube socks or not even responding him
Speaker 4: because we were so caught up at OAR.
Speaker 2: He just plays it perfectly. Is this the only time
Speaker 2: he's alone? I feel like this is one of the
Speaker 2: only times I remember him being alone on it. No,
Speaker 2: but he carries an entire storyline and.
Speaker 4: It's beautiful blaze through this episode with so much confidence
Speaker 4: in humor.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4: I was like, and then I remember that, because I
Speaker 4: didn't remember this episode at all except for pontificating from
Speaker 4: your tukus and you suck like I remember those very clearly.
Speaker 2: It's incredible. Yeah, yeah, so great. I love it.
Speaker 3: So Joey's the dialog? I'm sorry, very quick acting question.
Speaker 3: Do you think the dialogue for Joey is so good?
Speaker 2: And so Chris?
Speaker 3: Because he came up with his character so early and
Speaker 3: it was so solid that writing for him was a
Speaker 3: lot easier then they were writing for us. But we
Speaker 3: hadn't established our characters the way he had, so they're
Speaker 3: trying to help us find our character.
Speaker 2: Where he actually showed them what the care character was, well,
Speaker 2: a voice. He gave it a voice right before. It'd
Speaker 2: be so much easier than it's like, we don't really
Speaker 2: know what Eric is.
Speaker 1: Also, the to the writer's credit, it's a lot easier
Speaker 1: to give a character who you don't have to focus
Speaker 1: an entire show around a really specific voice, because no
Speaker 1: matter what situation you drop them in, they're going to
Speaker 1: be that thing all the time.
Speaker 2: And then you can pop them out.
Speaker 1: When you're trying to like build a universe around characters
Speaker 1: who you know, you need to think.
Speaker 2: Of things like they got to be likable, they got
Speaker 2: to be this.
Speaker 1: It's so much more fun to write for a Joey
Speaker 1: who you know can be all of these things so good.
Speaker 1: In this episode, someone who's very good at jackting. Joey
Speaker 1: opens his jacket to flash all the tube socks he's selling.
Speaker 1: He has like twenty four pairs of socks in there.
Speaker 1: And if I had taken anything from the set of
Speaker 1: Boy Meets World, I wish I took that tube sox jacket.
Speaker 2: I'd love to just have it.
Speaker 1: You could wear that everywhere. And then we're in the
Speaker 1: school hallway slash lab. Eric runs over to see if
Speaker 1: it's true. There's a science lady looking for students to
Speaker 1: be a part of a research study. Monique says she's
Speaker 1: doing a thesis on psychology with.
Speaker 2: A hot lady. Name was Monique. Also the name of
Speaker 2: the woman at the hairdresser. That's what I thought, it's Monique.
Speaker 2: I think it's the same the short haired, pretty lady
Speaker 2: named Monique, and we were I was like, it's either
Speaker 2: so similar to I.
Speaker 1: Think it's Monique, and we have a Lenny Spinelli, a
Speaker 1: possible other Leonard, and then this poor Leonard. It's like, guys,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of names out there.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's just Monique again. So she's doing a thesis
Speaker 2: on psycho neeurology.
Speaker 1: But then and then asks Eric if he's interested in
Speaker 1: dream research. Eric says, heck no, but he is a
Speaker 1: fan of the flyer that says you can earn cash
Speaker 1: while you sleep. He introduces himself and says he's an
Speaker 1: amateur sleeper ready to turn pro, which I thought was
Speaker 1: very cute. Also, I love sleeping. I'd be I would
Speaker 1: for sure sign up for this. There was a place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love sleeping too. But the older I'm getting,
Speaker 3: the worse I'm getting at it.
Speaker 2: That is the problem. Have you tried uns? I have not.
Speaker 3: I can't take stuff because then yeah, yeah, I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was trying to sleep and it's not working.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Monique shows Eric her makeshift laboratory, and Eric smiles and says,
Speaker 1: I've got a job. And then this is where I
Speaker 1: realized how many floors are there on this Tower of
Speaker 1: John Adams, Because we're in the like Turner classroom, we're
Speaker 1: also in the media arts classroom, and now this is
Speaker 1: a sleep study classroom, so you know we've got.
Speaker 3: At least yeah, it is, it is. There's different wings
Speaker 3: maybe yeah wing, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That makes sense. Okay.
Speaker 1: Then we are in the newsroom. Tapanga anxiously gets ready
Speaker 1: for her news segment, repeating to herself Katie Corek, Katie Corek,
Speaker 1: Katie Couric, and I thought that was a nice little
Speaker 1: callback to who Tapanga wanted to write her report on.
Speaker 1: So we're getting some good character development there. Then Sean
Speaker 1: brings over tissues because she is sweating, and Tapega says
Speaker 1: she doesn't sweat, she glistens, and Sean says, you're glistening
Speaker 1: like a pig. And I remember everything about this scene
Speaker 1: and this moment and filming this with you, and I
Speaker 1: still to this day find any opportunity I can to
Speaker 1: say I don't sweat, I glisten, I'm listening like a pig.
Speaker 4: I remember those lines, but I didn't remember doing it,
Speaker 4: Like I didn't remember the actual scene. But the second
Speaker 4: I heard those lines, maybe it was because I've heard
Speaker 4: you say that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've said it a lot.
Speaker 1: And also we had a lot of fun, even even
Speaker 1: though that was only a small interaction for us. You
Speaker 1: and I had a lot of fun being able to
Speaker 1: do this and share this little interaction. I remember, I
Speaker 1: remember actually acting together, and I remember shooting it with
Speaker 1: you and being in We were in good spirits, unlike
Speaker 1: the way when we watched Little Corey and there was
Speaker 1: like that underlying tension of like anger, something was going
Speaker 1: on on the set and on our lives, and it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's probably mostly pig, but also maybe
Speaker 1: some bad stuff in our lives. Like I remember the
Speaker 1: opposite during this, which was like there was a very
Speaker 1: lighthearted fun at least in this scene between you and
Speaker 1: I that I.
Speaker 3: You also noticed, feel sentimental about, like typical actors you
Speaker 3: because we have makeup on you.
Speaker 2: You were listening like a pig.
Speaker 3: You took the napkins, but you didn't actually do anything
Speaker 3: because it's like makeup.
Speaker 2: That my makeup. Yep, so funny.
Speaker 1: Well, mister Williams is in full producer mode and Amy
Speaker 1: and Allen are watching the monitor and say the OREGONI
Speaker 1: lady looks like the Queen Mary right down to the
Speaker 1: deck chairs.
Speaker 2: Sean says, ain't nothing wrong to that? Like a rusty
Speaker 2: doing some great donut, acting wonderful adocting what what is
Speaker 2: the bit with the food?
Speaker 1: Though, I'm curious, like because the way they're both holding it,
Speaker 1: I was like, is it just supposed to be Is
Speaker 1: it a joke about there's craft service at this newsroom
Speaker 1: and they are or is it just funny to just
Speaker 1: see them with a Danish or something?
Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's it's part of when
Speaker 4: you're watching somebody watch something, it's see them eating. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it like redirects the focus. It's like a way for
Speaker 4: them to just be a set of eyes looking away
Speaker 4: and it's like giving them something to do that. It
Speaker 4: reminds you that they're in the room, but then redirects
Speaker 4: your focus away from that. I don't know, it's like
Speaker 4: watching somebody eat popcorn, right, they're watching more interesting?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the fact that they are watching something suddenly becomes
Speaker 4: a choice because they're doing something with their own right,
Speaker 4: but their attention is not.
Speaker 2: On the thing you're doing. Right.
Speaker 1: It gives the audience watching them something to watch, yes,
Speaker 1: while they're just watching.
Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, it's really important. It's like actually an essential thing.
Speaker 4: You know, if you're not going to see what somebody's
Speaker 4: looking at it because.
Speaker 2: Otherwise this exactly yeah, right, okay again, he's so funny.
Speaker 2: He's so funny.
Speaker 1: So when mister Feenie tells mister Williams his project has
Speaker 1: really come together, he asks what he can look forward to,
Speaker 1: and mister Williams says a lot, including a feature on
Speaker 1: Janitor Bud that Corey is editing right now. Mister Feenie
Speaker 1: is concerned, saying mister Williams is airing student reports that
Speaker 1: haven't yet been seen, but mister Williams says they're good kids.
Speaker 1: They haven't let him down yet. And mister Feeney says,
Speaker 1: this is high school join Us.
Speaker 3: Which I loved, and they had to do because it
Speaker 3: wouldn't make any sense that he wouldn't be looking at
Speaker 3: the thing for I mean exact, you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 3: straight up put up put something on the air that
Speaker 3: he hasn't looked at as the teacher the students, right right, exactly,
Speaker 3: so that doesn't so at least they addressed it or
Speaker 3: tried to address it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's and it's it's they you know. Eli
Speaker 2: is saying I trust them, and Phoene's like, you're an idiot, essentially,
Speaker 2: But yeah it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it has that logic need, right, but it also
Speaker 4: sets up his culpability, like he is responsible and he
Speaker 4: does make a mistake, he should have made it, and
Speaker 4: so it ends up working, it ends.
Speaker 2: Up being helpful. But yeah, it is kind of a cheat. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but no, they they they at least wrote it in.
Speaker 2: They didn't just do it and then not do it.
Speaker 1: It was set up earlier with the fact that they
Speaker 1: had to redo it. They were on a time, you know.
Speaker 2: They're then of course, having Corey open with the spinach
Speaker 2: in his teeth reemphasizes like we ran out of times
Speaker 2: is not a polished thing exactly. So they want to
Speaker 2: say the lot and this is kind of airtight.
Speaker 1: So mister Williams counts down into Panga panics and says
Speaker 1: she can't do this right right now. She says that
Speaker 1: right up until the time that Tapanga is live, and
Speaker 1: once the camera is rolling, she's totally calm.
Speaker 2: One of the top news stories is about the stolen tube.
Speaker 1: Sock ring, which I thought was a funny little callback
Speaker 1: to what they had talked about. And then we're in
Speaker 1: the newsroom continuing Topanga. Thanks Bob, Thank you, Bob. And
Speaker 1: promotes his book skid Marks Confessions of a Crossing Guard,
Speaker 1: and then before they cut to a commercial, she does that.
Speaker 1: Right before they cut to a commercial break. Amy and
Speaker 1: Allan Telfeeni Topanga has a natural poise as a news anchor.
Speaker 1: Then Topega starts giving notes, panicking like she's in a
Speaker 1: high stressed newsroom and calls out the poor kid Leonard
Speaker 1: with the IBS for having the Q cards facing him.
Speaker 2: She says, I can't work like this, and I which,
Speaker 2: why didn't you do a lead R? I know, I
Speaker 2: can't believe I didn't do you. I wanted to go
Speaker 2: back and be like we used to say, I can't can't.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe because I was I don't know.
Speaker 2: I want it so bad, but I said it, and
Speaker 2: then I went back. I was like, I didn't do
Speaker 2: I didn't do it. A machine, the time machine, you guys,
Speaker 2: I want it, okay.
Speaker 1: Corey runs in with his tape right before Tapega starts
Speaker 1: her final news story, which is on Janitor Bud. They
Speaker 1: start playing Corey's video where he says everyone at school
Speaker 1: is trapped like deer until three thirty, but asks if
Speaker 1: some are less trapped than others he films Janitor Bud
Speaker 1: coming out of his office, and he leaves for school
Speaker 1: at two fifty five, even though he gets paid until
Speaker 1: five pm. Then at five pm, Joey comes over takes
Speaker 1: money out from behind Janitor Bud's time card and.
Speaker 3: The way he's holding the A, the way he's holding
Speaker 3: the card and b how does nobody see the two
Speaker 3: guys there from the ft away with a camera?
Speaker 4: So you're having the time punch, the time punch, the
Speaker 4: time card puncher and all the time cards raise in
Speaker 4: the hole.
Speaker 2: Anyone to do, Like, no kid's gonna go grab and
Speaker 2: start punching time cards. I mean all this was so ridiculous,
Speaker 2: literally wish leaving like Dylan's like, yeah, okay, nobody knows
Speaker 2: our secret.
Speaker 1: Plank maybe my airtight logic statement.
Speaker 2: This was terrible. This was pretty terrible. This defies that. Okay,
Speaker 2: it just becomes a cartoon at this point. How do
Speaker 2: they not see the guy a foot away from that?
Speaker 1: It's like what So Tapanga signs off from the day's
Speaker 1: newscast and ends it with don't eat veal, And that's
Speaker 1: where I really wish you would have said don't eat pork,
Speaker 1: so we could have had a little little Corey call back,
Speaker 1: but still waiting on that time machine. Corey and Shawn
Speaker 1: come over to mister Williams, excited about their report. Corey
Speaker 1: asks if Alan and Amy are proud, but they ask
Speaker 1: if everything is true, and Corey says, well, you saw
Speaker 1: not a dramatization.
Speaker 2: Not a dramatization.
Speaker 1: Mister Feeney says, that's unfortunate because now he has the
Speaker 1: unfortunate task of firing janitor Bud.
Speaker 2: I love this because it's like your Corey's not sure
Speaker 2: how to feel, you know. And I love that Corey
Speaker 2: and Sean sort of walk over like tada, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: and it has the error is sort of sucked out
Speaker 2: of the room and the way the adults are unsure
Speaker 2: how to react, because it's like if.
Speaker 4: That's you know, and that's this is a cool vibe.
Speaker 4: It's not like an immediate you guys did something wrong,
Speaker 4: and it's also not like you did something great. It's
Speaker 4: more complicated than that. And suddenly it's no one's quite
Speaker 4: sure how to react. And that is the essence of
Speaker 4: to me, good drama and yeah, what meets worldwriting. And
Speaker 4: I loved it and loved it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is great. This, this whole scene was great.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: And then we're in the school hallway after some girls
Speaker 1: ignore them. Corey doesn't understand why people are acting weird
Speaker 1: around them when they finally did a good job on
Speaker 1: a project. But Sean says, the big deal is that
Speaker 1: no one wants Janitor Bud fired. He's been in Phoene's
Speaker 1: office for an hour. Corey says, Feenie is a fair man,
Speaker 1: he will give him a second chance, and then Janitor
Speaker 1: Bud walks out of Phoene's.
Speaker 2: Office and says, what no second chance? Just hey, ties
Speaker 2: it all in.
Speaker 1: Really, Janitor Bud tells Phoenie there's history between them and
Speaker 1: that they're like brothers, to which Phoene says, no.
Speaker 2: We're not.
Speaker 4: I can't believe that I didn't remember this whole thing,
Speaker 4: because do you remember when we were recapping season two
Speaker 4: and Jander Bud was so funny and the dynamic in
Speaker 4: the love it between Feenie and Bud. I didn't remember
Speaker 4: this episode, but we brought was like, I just want
Speaker 4: to see a whole thing about the two and this
Speaker 4: is it, and this is and you can still tell
Speaker 4: Phoene really doesn't like him.
Speaker 2: Which is the kind so awesome like this man, he's
Speaker 2: so funny.
Speaker 1: It's in this moment when Bud reveals that he retires
Speaker 1: in two months with a full pension.
Speaker 2: Janitor.
Speaker 1: Bud asks Feenie if he remembers when he saved his life,
Speaker 1: which Phoenie does not remember. Bud says, Phoenie was walking
Speaker 1: around the hall when Bud noticed a build up of
Speaker 1: wax and he had no choice but to throw himself
Speaker 1: on the wax so that Phoene didn't slip.
Speaker 2: Phoene says he thought he was just sleeping, and but admits, well,
Speaker 2: once I was down here, down there, Phoene shakes his hand,
Speaker 2: and I know so good.
Speaker 1: Phoene shakes his hand and thanks him for his service.
Speaker 1: But Bud says, Ammonia's in my blood. No, really, it is, really,
Speaker 1: he says, it's all he knows. Phoenie just says godspeed, Janitor.
Speaker 2: Bud looks around the hallway and then walks off.
Speaker 1: Corey says they have nothing to feel bad about because
Speaker 1: he told they told the truth, and Bud should feel
Speaker 1: bad for goofing off. And then if we could give posthumous,
Speaker 1: which I guess means dead not dead, just time machine,
Speaker 1: Emmys to people to temmy's. I would like to give
Speaker 1: a temmy to Blake Salt for this next little run.
Speaker 1: Joey comes out and questions if they think leaving early
Speaker 1: is considered goofing off.
Speaker 2: He asks if they knew where Janitor Bud was going.
Speaker 1: Every day at two fifty five. Joey says he visits
Speaker 1: a place where others are less fortunate than him. He
Speaker 1: throws on more and more gilt, talking about what a
Speaker 1: sweet giving man Bud is, and then Corey's stomach starts
Speaker 1: bubbling like that poor child Leonard with ibs. Finally, Joey
Speaker 1: reveals Bud gives to the track playing the ponies. It's
Speaker 1: a total misdirect from thinking he was charitable, which is amazing.
Speaker 1: And before he leaves, Joey gives us this beautiful quote.
Speaker 1: Let's play the clip.
Speaker 2: Well, next time you go stick in your nose someplace
Speaker 2: where it don't belong, you remember this, You suck? That's
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, though, here's what's so interesting. We specifically
Speaker 3: had to cut you suck from season two.
Speaker 2: So what has changed now to where now we can
Speaker 2: say you suck? Who says it again? So much that
Speaker 2: we don't. You know, people, people tell us what you mind?
Speaker 2: Everybody what we're talking about. There's a U stink moment
Speaker 2: when we're banned on the band. Yeah, what an idea.
Speaker 2: We specifically had to cut it out and changed it
Speaker 2: to you sir. Sorry, No, that's very valid.
Speaker 1: So we all we get sometimes a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: people don't like how sometimes we'll go over a point
Speaker 1: and the reality of it and and the truth is
Speaker 1: one of the reasons we do it is because we
Speaker 1: know that's actually what networks and executives do.
Speaker 2: They still do it to this day.
Speaker 1: You could have a show with a total fantastical storyline
Speaker 1: where there's magic or fairies or whatever, and someone, an
Speaker 1: executive will say, so, what's the what's the reality.
Speaker 2: Of this moment?
Speaker 3: Is it? You know?
Speaker 2: And they'll want to talk about that. In this situation.
Speaker 1: One of the things that can be very important is
Speaker 1: the likability of the characters. And when we talk about
Speaker 1: stakes and and all those things, somebody saying you suck
Speaker 1: and who they say it to. So I wonder how
Speaker 1: much of it is just that it's Joey saying it, maybe, and.
Speaker 2: He's older than the girls were when they were saying it.
Speaker 2: Everybody's older, and I wonder what it means. I wonder
Speaker 2: if culturally too, things have been changing, like it's been
Speaker 2: a year and like the idea of like, I don't
Speaker 2: think anybody would censor you suck now now, No, I
Speaker 2: don't remember. I mean even when like the Simpsons first
Speaker 2: came out, Bart Simpson was for saying my shorts was
Speaker 2: a big deal.
Speaker 4: It was like, Wow, how dare a cartoon have such
Speaker 4: a braddy kid these offensive things? And then of course
Speaker 4: you have South Park doing the same thing. You're always
Speaker 4: pushing the envelope as far as language and what's offensive
Speaker 4: or not. And I think pretty much by the mid nineties,
Speaker 4: suck had lost any connotation that was sexual. Maybe it
Speaker 4: just became you suck, Like just became like you're stay
Speaker 4: had person.
Speaker 2: It was equivalent was like, man, now we're allowed to
Speaker 2: say that now apparently. Yeah. Oh, but this is such
Speaker 2: a legendary moment, so great, it's so so good.
Speaker 1: Sean says, poor Bud, but Corey says, Saint Bud skips
Speaker 1: work to bless the ponies. Bud comes back to tell
Speaker 1: Corey and Sean he knows it was them, and he
Speaker 1: puts the Janitor's curse on them by doing an incredible
Speaker 1: little dance. And I would watch the Janitor Bud and
Speaker 1: Joey spin off for sure. I'm right now, I'm calling.
Speaker 2: It, Joey, I'm your Bud. I would watch that spin Wow.
Speaker 2: I like it, right, I like it. I like those two.
Speaker 1: I also love at the end of his little dance
Speaker 1: that he does the real almost break that both you
Speaker 1: and Ben have those Any of those moments that get
Speaker 1: captured on tape when we watch these episodes are just
Speaker 1: literally my heart like gets lit up from the inside
Speaker 1: of so they're still personal and I remember them so well,
Speaker 1: so it's a I really those little moments that just
Speaker 1: light me up inside.
Speaker 2: And then we're in the lab.
Speaker 1: Eric is asleep in Monique's lab with wires strapped to
Speaker 1: his head. She wakes him up and Eric asks where
Speaker 1: his money is. Monique says she needs to ask Eric
Speaker 1: some questions, but he says that wasn't part of the deal.
Speaker 1: She assures him that he will get paid, but asks
Speaker 1: if he remembers any of his dreams, and Eric says,
Speaker 1: how could I I was asleep. Monique says that while
Speaker 1: he was asleep, he had a serene, almost goofy look
Speaker 1: on his face, but.
Speaker 2: He registered absolutely no brain activity.
Speaker 1: She calls it remarkable, and Eric says, well, I've been
Speaker 1: sleeping since I was five.
Speaker 4: Now, somewhere in here, I'm not sure which line it
Speaker 4: is exactly, but you can clearly hear our writers laugh. Yeah,
Speaker 4: oh really, yes, it's like the regular audience laugh. And
Speaker 4: then you can hear from down the hall by the monitors,
Speaker 4: a group of guys laughing extra at your reaction. I
Speaker 4: think it's when she says something about no brain activity
Speaker 4: and you're like smiling at the monitor. It's so funny.
Speaker 4: But I was like, because we've talked about that, how
Speaker 4: we can hear our specim our writers losing it over you,
Speaker 4: which is what they all did.
Speaker 2: I just I you didn't want to think.
Speaker 3: I know it sounds ridiculous, but one of the things
Speaker 3: I remember so much about this episode was how much
Speaker 3: I loved the blocking because really I was laying there
Speaker 3: like the whole episode.
Speaker 2: It was so easy. It was just like you just
Speaker 2: just lie there like, Okay, that's great.
Speaker 5: Great.
Speaker 1: So Monique wants to do more tests, but Eric says,
Speaker 1: mister remarkable is going to cost her. He wants to renegotiate.
Speaker 1: He wants half of what she's saying today, then double it,
Speaker 1: then double it. Monique agrees. Then Eric walks out with
Speaker 1: everything still strapped to his head.
Speaker 3: Again, it's funny. It is funny, and I liked being funny.
Speaker 3: I just and I think what the problem is is
Speaker 3: I know where it's going. So if I had just
Speaker 3: seen this and this was kind of a one off,
Speaker 3: I would have been like, Okay, this is a funny
Speaker 3: Eric thing.
Speaker 2: But this started to going.
Speaker 1: There's like a middle part where you don't like it,
Speaker 1: but then really where it goes goes you actually do
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 2: I do correct, okay, because.
Speaker 3: It gets so absurd by that point that but it's
Speaker 3: also it's not only becomes so absurd, but we're also
Speaker 3: all to together in the college, so it's like we're
Speaker 3: doing scenes where it's all of us and Eric is
Speaker 3: just one of the absurd. I mean to bring it
Speaker 3: to friends, It's like it would be different if five
Speaker 3: of them were doing one episode and then they cut
Speaker 3: to Joey being stupid, like that makes it a completely
Speaker 3: different show. Whereas when we were all together and you know,
Speaker 3: it's everything's going on and Eric is there being stupid.
Speaker 3: I not only was fine with that, I love that.
Speaker 3: I thought that was great because it was just another
Speaker 3: flavor to an entire ensemble cast. I didn't like it
Speaker 3: when it was like there was one show going on
Speaker 3: and then it was just cut to Eric for a
Speaker 3: couple pages being stupid.
Speaker 2: That I was not.
Speaker 3: That's where that started to grind to me, where it
Speaker 3: then was incorporated into the rest of the show and.
Speaker 2: Basically once Madeland and Matt got into the show, because
Speaker 2: it might have actually happened even a little bit before that,
Speaker 2: but it's really giving you your own like crew, you know,
Speaker 2: like they've tried it with with Jason, you know, yes,
Speaker 2: but like, yeah, it's interesting that they didn't actually pair
Speaker 2: you with Tony. I mean, well, they paired you with Tony.
Speaker 3: That's why they tried to do it with Bill and
Speaker 3: a lot of and when they did it worked, but
Speaker 3: it was but they can't it can't be Eric and
Speaker 3: Feenie can't be the crew. You know, it's it's you've
Speaker 3: got Phoene is kind of playing the floater. So that
Speaker 3: was my that was my only problem. Again, again, I
Speaker 3: look at it and I think it's funny. It just
Speaker 3: came to a point where Eric was by himself doing
Speaker 3: random funny things while the rest of the show was
Speaker 3: taking place. So when that changed, I was I was
Speaker 3: happier with it where it was just you know, it
Speaker 3: made more sense to me. It was just incorporated kind
Speaker 3: of into the show more so. Yeah, I mean, Jason's
Speaker 3: gone and it's kind of it's he's just on an
Speaker 3: island saying jokes. Yeah, So it was just that that
Speaker 3: will change, and I know it'll change, and I'm happy
Speaker 3: when it changes. There's I think there's a kind of
Speaker 3: a mid section here where they're trying to figure out
Speaker 3: what Eric's going to do. And to the writer's credit,
Speaker 3: that's why they brought in Matt and Maitland. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like, all right, let's give especially Matt, let's give
Speaker 3: Eric somebody to bounce off of all the time.
Speaker 2: And that I think changed the whole ball game. But
Speaker 2: it's while till we get there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, then we're in the school hall school cafeteria.
Speaker 1: Even Bertha is giving Corey and Shawn a dirty look
Speaker 1: over Janitor Bud's firing. Sean says she hates them. Corey
Speaker 1: says the word hate is a strong word. Sean then
Speaker 1: tells him to turn over his bun and it says
Speaker 1: I hate you, I hate you. Cory says he's a reporter.
Speaker 1: It's his job to get the story, no matter the consequences.
Speaker 1: Suddenly Sean falls over a plunger. He picks it up
Speaker 1: and says Janitor's curse man, but Corey says, there's no
Speaker 1: such thing and they should enjoy I know there is
Speaker 1: going to.
Speaker 4: Be a runner, whereas Shawn's constantly getting you know, screwed
Speaker 4: by the Janitor's Curse.
Speaker 2: I thought that would have been funny.
Speaker 4: And this is also a weird like why does Sean
Speaker 4: have no responsibility for the rest of the episode at
Speaker 4: this point, Like the two of them have done this
Speaker 4: thing together, and then it just becomes a quiry issue
Speaker 4: for the rest of the episode. Like even in this
Speaker 4: scene it becomes Eli and Turner talking about how bad
Speaker 4: Matthews is taking a beating.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Sean, it's interesting.
Speaker 3: I think it's because they wrote it in such a
Speaker 3: way where Corey is now he still doesn't know if
Speaker 3: he did something good or he did something bad, where
Speaker 3: Sean has made up his mind.
Speaker 2: Jane or Bud, should I feel bad? We shouldn't have
Speaker 2: done that.
Speaker 3: Like, he's picked a side, and so everybody who's picked
Speaker 3: a side, I think, you know what they're thinking, whereas
Speaker 3: Corey is still wishy washy and trying to figure out
Speaker 3: did I do something good? Did I do something bad?
Speaker 3: I don't even know what's happening. So they're following that
Speaker 3: all because everyone picked a side.
Speaker 1: Already they were they're kind of separating it, like it
Speaker 1: was Corey's idea to follow Joey to find a story,
Speaker 1: so it was his idea of how to get to
Speaker 1: this place. And then he's the one who did the reporting,
Speaker 1: and you're kind of the camera guy, so even though
Speaker 1: it's your class project, it's a little more. Kory's the
Speaker 1: one who said, let's follow this guy and get to
Speaker 1: the source of this whatever the whatever they can find.
Speaker 2: So I think that's a little part of it.
Speaker 1: And then I think the other half of it is
Speaker 1: what Will said that you're you're very much on the
Speaker 1: side of like, man, that sucks.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that was going to happen.
Speaker 3: And then they go try to sit down and have
Speaker 3: their lunch with two fifty year old Men's exactly what
Speaker 3: I wrote.
Speaker 2: They try to sit at the table.
Speaker 1: But the other student, a forty seven year old man
Speaker 1: we've never seen in school before, knocks the chair over.
Speaker 2: Is this guy he's my age now, I mean seriously
Speaker 2: seen him earlier. I had actually written down a note
Speaker 2: in the first cafeteria scene. He's the first extra wall
Speaker 2: really right before you see Leonard, you see this guy
Speaker 2: that exact guy cross frame, and I was like, whoa,
Speaker 2: why is the fifty year old I literally wrote that
Speaker 2: down and then it pays off here that he's like
Speaker 2: this tough guy, so I guess that's why they had
Speaker 2: him there.
Speaker 3: But he looks like every high school student in the
Speaker 3: nineteen eighties movie where they're in their forties.
Speaker 1: Yes, so Sean says that was the last table and
Speaker 1: they should get out of there, but Corey says it's
Speaker 1: going to take someone a lot bigger to push Corey
Speaker 1: Matthews around. And then a really tall, also forty seven
Speaker 1: year old man stands up in front of Corey, and
Speaker 1: Corey says, we have a winner. The boys run out
Speaker 1: of the cafeteria. Why is the Calf so busy with
Speaker 1: old men today? It's old men day. It's old men
Speaker 1: day at the Calf, and we've been in this calf
Speaker 1: unless this is on a different floor. We've been in
Speaker 1: this calf a lot to Penga's never there. Where does
Speaker 1: the panga in the quad on the grass with the
Speaker 1: flowers right.
Speaker 2: Next to the pigs.
Speaker 1: I just don't understand where where all these people came from.
Speaker 1: But anyway, mister Williams says, Corey is really taking a beating,
Speaker 1: but mister Turner says he had it coming at the
Speaker 1: cost of Janitor Bud's firing. Turner says, that's the assignment
Speaker 1: and he did what he was given. It's the news business.
Speaker 1: But william says, this is school and their kids, and
Speaker 1: Turner just says, exactly.
Speaker 2: Oh, now, so good.
Speaker 4: It is so cool to see, you know, the progression
Speaker 4: of teachers learning how to be teachers that we've had,
Speaker 4: where we have Feenie in second season teaching Turner, and
Speaker 4: now we get to see Turner teaching yeah. And he's
Speaker 4: never been a teacher. Yeah, And and and have him
Speaker 4: sort of walk into this trap, and to have Tony
Speaker 4: just sort of be like exactly and not hit it
Speaker 4: too hard to just be It's so good. It is
Speaker 4: such smart writing and smart acting and I loved it.
Speaker 2: I loved this whole beat.
Speaker 1: I did too, And I also love that at the end,
Speaker 1: Alex the sayer just does lets his eyebrows do the talking.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I also think we need to possibly start a new
Speaker 3: category coming up, because there was two in this episode
Speaker 3: of Eli's Ties.
Speaker 2: Ah, I know I have a note about that. Is
Speaker 2: it the beatles the bit? I don't know it looks
Speaker 2: but it's awesome whatever it is?
Speaker 1: Cool? Yeah, Well, then we're in the Matthew's kitchen. Corey
Speaker 1: is telling his parents when he's doing the report. When
Speaker 1: he was doing the report, it seemed like the right
Speaker 1: thing to do, and part of him still thinks it is,
Speaker 1: but everyone at school thinks he's a jerk. He asks
Speaker 1: Amy and Allan if he was right or wrong, and
Speaker 1: at the exact same time, Alan says right, but Amy
Speaker 1: says wrong, And again love it.
Speaker 4: Has there ever been a more perfect beat to describe
Speaker 4: boy meets World awesomeness? No, go to your parents with
Speaker 4: a quandary and the two of them look at you
Speaker 4: and say the exact opposite thing at the same time.
Speaker 2: That is like, Yes, that's what I want.
Speaker 4: I want to see everybody being human and struggling and parents, father,
Speaker 4: does not know best right board just has an opinion
Speaker 4: and is figuring it out. And like later we have
Speaker 4: Eli say adults don't know either. I just love this aspect.
Speaker 4: That's why this episode went right to like top of
Speaker 4: my list. Same good because it's so cool to not
Speaker 4: shy away from that complexity and ambiguity and really just
Speaker 4: that's the point their characters figuring it out.
Speaker 2: I love it. Love couldn't agree with you more, just agree.
Speaker 2: That's why I wanted to be a part of it.
Speaker 2: Damn it. Amy and Allen start debating.
Speaker 1: Amy and Allen start debating about the topic. Corey says
Speaker 1: he's getting mixed signals from them. Alan says, this isn't.
Speaker 2: About you, Cory, which I love. Again, They're now like,
Speaker 2: hold on, forget you. I got to talk to you.
Speaker 2: Why do you think that? But for two seconds, just
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, very very quickly, and it has to be
Speaker 2: very brief.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: Do you think he did something wrong? Of course? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean not wrong. He didn't do anything wrong. I think.
Speaker 1: I think if you are, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: people are allowed a certain amount it. Yeah, it is,
Speaker 1: it's complex. I think that people.
Speaker 2: It's funny though.
Speaker 1: Later when we had when he has the scene with Eli,
Speaker 1: it's actually the thing that you know, sparked what kind
Speaker 1: of what we talked about in our pre show chatter,
Speaker 1: which was I feel very similarly about this episode as
Speaker 1: I do even.
Speaker 2: About our podcast MMM. I have had a certain amount of.
Speaker 1: Concern, anxiety or guilt around just sharing people's truths and
Speaker 1: how sometimes one person's truth makes somebody else sound bad
Speaker 1: or and I truly don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't That's never been our intention.
Speaker 1: And I think, what's If there's anything I've learned through
Speaker 1: doing the podcast, it's that we are all bad, we
Speaker 1: are all good, we have all been right, we have
Speaker 1: all hurt people. We have all been living in our own,
Speaker 1: you know, myopic universes where we don't realize how our
Speaker 1: universes interact with other people's universes, and and and so
Speaker 1: that this episode really speaks to some of the anxiety
Speaker 1: I have around giving a platform to people sharing their stories.
Speaker 1: I think it's important, and I think it's it's very
Speaker 1: eye opening, and I hope it has sparked conversations about
Speaker 1: everyone's own childhoods, teenagehoods, friendships, romantic relationships, and has maybe
Speaker 1: made people look back on some of their lives and go, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe I wasn't a victim there, maybe I was, maybe
Speaker 1: I did have a hand in this, or maybe you
Speaker 1: know what, this thing I took responsibility for I shouldn't
Speaker 1: have taken responsibility for or any of those things.
Speaker 2: So that's my long winded answer to your question.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Interesting, Yeah, I think I think it's it's a question
Speaker 4: of uh scale, right, Like, if they had like the
Speaker 4: idea of doing a report exposing something bad that an
Speaker 4: employee is doing it at school, it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 4: It's the fact that they're rushed and they do it
Speaker 4: right to television, right, Like, that is the problem. If
Speaker 4: you if if they were to do this report, go
Speaker 4: to ELI and say, mister Williams, we have this, it
Speaker 4: would have gone to Bud to get his response, right
Speaker 4: to defend himself or explain himself or not, and it
Speaker 4: would have gone through. Like, but the problem is that
Speaker 4: it just gets instantly put into the world. It's just televised,
Speaker 4: and so that's and that's Eli's fault, right, So I
Speaker 4: think I don't think that there's a problem.
Speaker 2: With exposing this.
Speaker 4: They they just didn't need to publicly shame but they
Speaker 4: could have just done their report and gone to mister
Speaker 4: Feenie and said, did you know your employee is doing this?
Speaker 4: But instead they're sort of profiting off of it, not really,
Speaker 4: but they're benefiting by like it's right. It becomes about
Speaker 4: them as opposed to the issue, which is, you know,
Speaker 4: the problem with a lot of media is that becomes
Speaker 4: about like the personality of the person.
Speaker 2: It's sensationalized more than you yes, yeah, yeah, what do
Speaker 2: you think will? I don't know? Again, I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's why this episode is so good and that so
Speaker 2: well written.
Speaker 3: It's I you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: they caught a guy who was doing something pretty wrong,
Speaker 3: and they didn't and they I because I didn't remember
Speaker 3: the episode. I was expecting Joey to be like, do
Speaker 3: you know where he's going? He's going to you know,
Speaker 3: like a hospital, or he's going he's got a friend,
Speaker 3: he's sick.
Speaker 2: I thought that's but they didn't. They took it to
Speaker 2: where he's going.
Speaker 3: So this guy's skipping out on work four or three
Speaker 3: and a half hours, four hours early.
Speaker 2: To go to the track every day. I bet you,
Speaker 2: I will, I will bet anything. No, Michael.
Speaker 4: That was the original script if the original draft of
Speaker 4: the script or the original draft of the pitch was that,
Speaker 4: you know, they get the buzzy he's going for and
Speaker 4: then it's just going to get cancer treatments orstic Yeah, right,
Speaker 4: And Michael, to his credit, as he would always have done,
Speaker 4: it's like, that's the easy thing.
Speaker 2: Let's make it more complicated, more complicated.
Speaker 4: And it doesn't that be a joke that j always
Speaker 4: sets that up, but then move completely away from that
Speaker 4: and make helping Janitor Bud a saving grace for Feeni
Speaker 4: in this like really interesting way. Yeah, that that is
Speaker 4: total Michael Jacob's magic to me, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me.
Speaker 3: To me, the answer was this entire episode was actually
Speaker 3: about Eli. Yeah, and that's what that's where. So that's
Speaker 3: where I was looking was this is a whole lesson
Speaker 3: for Eli more than anything else, and so looking at
Speaker 3: it that way, it's really not about Corey at all.
Speaker 3: But it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very, very very good a story, really,
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Eric runs in at the last minute and says he
Speaker 1: got a letter from the University of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: Amy asks if he was accepted.
Speaker 1: But Eric says, better, they want to study me, and
Speaker 1: he runs upstairs, and then we're in the school hallway
Speaker 1: to Pega tells Corey she hopes everyone starts giving stops
Speaker 1: giving him a hard time, and Corey says, people have
Speaker 1: short memories. Then he opens his locker to see a
Speaker 1: giant dead fish hanging inside.
Speaker 2: To Pengo, your reaction to this dead fish is one
Speaker 2: of my favorite things I have ever seen. Oh I
Speaker 2: love it so good.
Speaker 4: I watched it like five times where she's just like that,
Speaker 4: she like shutters and I did you do you think
Speaker 4: it was your actual reaction?
Speaker 3: Do you think?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I think I thought it was over the top.
Speaker 1: But I also I could put myself in the shoes
Speaker 1: of myself in that moment, and I think what bummed
Speaker 1: me out watching it was that I react before the
Speaker 1: audience sees it. But that is real because the locker
Speaker 1: opens toward to pegu see the door, so the camera
Speaker 1: from the camera POV you wouldn't see it until topegat
Speaker 1: already seen it. So my first thought was, what is
Speaker 1: she reacting to? Oh, that's what she's reacting to. It
Speaker 1: felt a little big to me, but it was great. Mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's hysterical. I almost thought that they had
Speaker 1: that we had a real fish and that.
Speaker 2: I do you think it may have been a real fish.
Speaker 2: I do, seem.
Speaker 4: Realises how to close it, and he's like at the end,
Speaker 4: we had probably been rehearsing all week without anything, so
Speaker 4: I thought maybe they'd actually shocked you by maybe it
Speaker 4: being the first time, and you were like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: it's real, you know, like you have such a good reaction.
Speaker 3: You knew something was coming just the way that Ben like, oh,
Speaker 3: you open the locker. So it's like, hey, I'm on
Speaker 3: this side to make sure everybody.
Speaker 2: Can see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Tabanka kisses Corey and then walks off, and
Speaker 1: there's a big lady from the audience. Quickly she's already
Speaker 1: out out of there. Mister Williams walks over in a
Speaker 1: tie that gives mister Turner a run for his money.
Speaker 2: Is it like the Beetles?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 2: The face was looking it looked like it looked like
Speaker 2: the Beatles to me.
Speaker 1: It was so mister Williams sees the big old fish
Speaker 1: and Corey's soccer big old fish coversus.
Speaker 2: His nose, and I pulled that clip as well, because
Speaker 2: I love it. It's it that's a big old fish.
Speaker 2: I such a that's a big old fish. That's a
Speaker 2: big old fish.
Speaker 5: Oh man.
Speaker 1: So Corey tries to push the fish into the locker,
Speaker 1: but he can't really quite figure out how to do that,
Speaker 1: and he just leaves it. And then we're in the
Speaker 1: newsroom and mister Williams asked Corey, how's life? But Corey
Speaker 1: says he doesn't know. Mister Williams says Corey doesn't deserve
Speaker 1: all the grief over Janitor Bud, and Corey agrees, saying, I.
Speaker 2: Was just wondering where's Sean?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Sean getting harassed in his locker, I guess
Speaker 4: because Corey was in the face of was was the
Speaker 4: But But then wouldn't Eli be talking to Corey and
Speaker 4: Sean like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, got their assignment? Yeah, you're right, you think I
Speaker 2: just had this? Like why why am I not part
Speaker 2: of this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't no offense, I didn't miss you. But I
Speaker 1: but you're right, you should have as part of the
Speaker 1: as part of the assignment.
Speaker 4: Yes, And I feel like this is typical Corey Sean Right,
Speaker 4: we do a radio show, we a rise in It together,
Speaker 4: and we did do this thing together and it's it's
Speaker 4: bizarre to me that I'm just not even. It would
Speaker 4: also add to the humor. I think, like if Sean
Speaker 4: were you could have a couple one off stupid Sean
Speaker 4: jokes in this and.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, it's weird, it's a it's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a missed opportunity there. Corey agrees, saying he was
Speaker 1: just a reporter doing his job, and mister william says
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a job. He's in school and that's
Speaker 1: where he messed up. Mister Williams says he's supposed supposed
Speaker 1: to teach Corey about the news business, not put him
Speaker 1: in it, but Corey is still asking if he was
Speaker 1: right or wrong. Corey says he is proud of his
Speaker 1: report but feels bad for Bud. He didn't mean for
Speaker 1: him to lose his job, and mister william says, welcome
Speaker 1: to the news business. It's a tough game when you care,
Speaker 1: but there isn't always a clear right or.
Speaker 2: Wrong, and Corey says, but I'm a kid, I want
Speaker 2: it both ways, and mister Williams reveals that the adults
Speaker 2: do too perfect and that's perfect. It's awesome set of laws. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: this great writing, writing, right acting, yep, so perfect, just beautiful, straight.
Speaker 4: Out of season one. It's it's like all the themes
Speaker 4: of the show. Ben throwing his hands up and being like,
Speaker 4: somebody please give me an easy answer, and an adult
Speaker 4: saying it's not you can't.
Speaker 2: That is such thing. Yeah, in a nutshell, that is
Speaker 2: is great our show. So then we're in mister Feeney's office.
Speaker 1: Poene is repeatedly buzzing his secretary for another cup of
Speaker 1: coffee when mister Williams and Corey walk in. Mister Williams
Speaker 1: starts to nicely talk about janitor buds firing, but Corey
Speaker 1: jumps in and says, just give the old gambler his
Speaker 1: job back.
Speaker 4: I Pene's not understand what Ben said. He said gamblers
Speaker 4: so far. I thought he was like saying some slang
Speaker 4: term for like an old geezer or gamble. He's like,
Speaker 4: what is this word?
Speaker 2: I went back and a gambler, gambler.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Phoene says they should save their breath and the
Speaker 1: matter is closed. Mister Williams says it's his fault and
Speaker 1: he should have screened the videos, but Phoene says it
Speaker 1: did go on air. And to the entire school board.
Speaker 1: He had no choice but to do what he did.
Speaker 1: Mister william says, in only two months, Bud would retire
Speaker 1: with a full pension. Cory asks Feoene how he can
Speaker 1: do that to a man who saved his life, but
Speaker 1: Phoene says, for the love of God, I saw the wax.
Speaker 1: Corey says he always thought Feoene had a heart of gold.
Speaker 1: But and before he can finish, Janitor Bud comes in
Speaker 1: and hands Feeney his cup of coffee.
Speaker 2: Bud tells him go easy on the buzz on the buzzer.
Speaker 1: And obviously Phoene hired Bud as his secretary, who now
Speaker 1: dresses very fancy to be a secretary.
Speaker 2: Tapperman dress it up to be a secretary means also,
Speaker 2: is that what he wears to the race track? This
Speaker 2: is gambling pony hat. You would put that on with
Speaker 2: the nice hat. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: Mister Williams says two months, huh, before Bud pops back
Speaker 1: in and reminds Phoene to use a coaster, and Phoene says, blast,
Speaker 1: my heart of gold.
Speaker 2: This is the payoff for those looks that they get too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's great. And then we're back in the lab.
Speaker 1: A bunch of multicultural scientists from all over the world
Speaker 1: are watching Monique monitor.
Speaker 2: Eric their hats case we don't get it, putting on
Speaker 2: a sombrero, and you know, she also flat out says
Speaker 2: from all over the world.
Speaker 1: Yep, they are watching Monique monitor Eric's brain while he sleeps,
Speaker 1: showing there is no brain activity.
Speaker 2: She assures everyone Eric is not dead and then wakes
Speaker 2: him up.
Speaker 1: Monique says he is the most content person without a
Speaker 1: care in the world, calling him one of a kind.
Speaker 1: Eric asks how the mouse is doing, who is showing
Speaker 1: brain activity while he sleeps. Monique says he has fears, hopes, dreams, goals,
Speaker 1: and Eric says, poor little guy.
Speaker 2: And that's it. That's that's our show, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I I love this episode. I know will
Speaker 1: I love the to me, I know, I actually still
Speaker 1: like your story too. I think it's cute and it's
Speaker 1: not it doesn't I don't know, I love it. It's
Speaker 1: I think it's funny and I think it helps set
Speaker 1: up I just think it's kind of a crazy idea
Speaker 1: that there's no brain activity, but it's funny.
Speaker 2: It's funny for what we come to know igat Eric,
Speaker 2: I get it just kind of on an island. You know,
Speaker 2: It's just how it is for a little while. I'm
Speaker 2: okay with it for now. Well, thank you.
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Speaker 2: Spanish?
Speaker 1: Well, you guys can join us also for our next
Speaker 1: episode recap, which will be season three episode eight, rave
Speaker 1: on It originally aired November.
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