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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome in.

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Speaker 2: I'm Doug Gottlie.

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Speaker 1: This is all ball. We've got a great treat for you.

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Speaker 1: Victor Hoblin is going to join me.

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Speaker 3: And of course, if you know anything about golf, he

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Speaker 3: had two of the greatest weeks back to back in

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Speaker 3: the history of the sport, winning two straight tournaments, and

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Speaker 3: the second one, of course, culminated in a win of

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Speaker 3: the FedEx Cup, which means he won fifteen million dollars.

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Speaker 3: I believe it was like twenty two million and two weeks,

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Speaker 3: which is nothing short of incredible. But before we get

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Speaker 3: to that, I did want to kind of recap Team

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Speaker 3: USA and the semi final loss to Germany, not necessarily

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Speaker 3: in the game alone, although like, look, we could go

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Speaker 3: back and pick apart the fact that Steve Kerr has

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Speaker 3: been ikt of he's trying to force small ball with

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Speaker 3: Paula Banko playing a lot of the five, or it's

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Speaker 3: just a matter of the personnel that he has. The

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Speaker 3: biggest takeaway should be from this tournament is FIBA.

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Speaker 1: Is a different style of basketball.

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Speaker 2: It just is.

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Speaker 3: The officiating is very, very different, the physicality is very different.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean the NBA is not physical, but physical in

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Speaker 3: a different way. But in addition to the fact that

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Speaker 3: the NBA game doesn't reward a lot of the physicality

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Speaker 3: of the traditional center, we're just not producing them at

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Speaker 3: nearly the same rate. And you know, maybe that's an

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Speaker 3: US problem or maybe that's the game evolving. Now should

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Speaker 3: be pointed out that in the NBA there is kind

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Speaker 1: I don't know anyone called de evolution.

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Speaker 3: The If you notice this week Anthony Davis said he

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Speaker 3: wants to play power forward. Some of that is that's

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Speaker 3: what he says he wants to do, right, He doesn't

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Speaker 3: want to guard Yokich and some of those Steven Adams,

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Speaker 3: some of those monsters, although he should want to have

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Speaker 3: them guarding him. Some of that is out of necessity

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Speaker 3: because look, the team you're gonna have to.

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Speaker 2: Be the Nuggets.

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Speaker 1: They're awesome, and the thing that the Nuggets were able.

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Speaker 3: To do in the playoffs was not just play Jokic,

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Speaker 3: but also, I mean, across the board, there's six nine,

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Speaker 3: six ten.

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Speaker 1: You know, Michael Porter.

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Speaker 3: Junior's six nine, six ' ten, Aaron Gordon he's listed

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Speaker 3: six ' ten, but he's probably more in the six

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Speaker 3: but we just do not have a part of it

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Speaker 3: is even our wings. They're you know, three D guys.

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Speaker 3: They get posted up and they get I mean, look

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Speaker 3: at the games and which which we have lost, you know,

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Speaker 3: Austin Reeves getting posted up and Lithuania beasted us on

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Speaker 3: the boards. I do wonder why Steve Kerr hasn't given

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Speaker 3: Walker Kessler a chance. Obviously he's not as physically built

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Speaker 3: or maybe as physically gifted as Jared Jackson, who's really struggled.

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Speaker 3: But the an NBA center a Foeba center. They may

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Speaker 3: speel and sound like the same position to people, but

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Speaker 3: they're really not. It's a different sport. Has the world

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Speaker 3: caught up to us, Yeah, of course you haven't been

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Speaker 3: paying attention. On the other hand, we're not the only

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Speaker 3: ones who can sit here and say, hey, we have

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Speaker 3: a bunch of NBA players and we're getting beat by

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Speaker 3: non NBA players. Having to Canada, right, Canada, ten NBA players.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna play them in the third place game, so

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Speaker 3: you know, and it does feel like this is a

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Speaker 3: you know, next summer and play in the Olympics and

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Speaker 3: act like they save today. But the reality is that

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Speaker 3: we have we should have good enough players, We should

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Speaker 3: have good enough talent to win this tournament.

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Speaker 1: The talent is not an issue.

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Speaker 3: I think a good portion of it is how we

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Speaker 3: teach the game, and the game is taught differently in

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Speaker 3: other parts of the world. And the biggest issue that

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Speaker 3: in the post and moving without the basketball least like

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Speaker 3: lost arts everybody times. The lost art of the mid range,

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Speaker 3: no lost art of the mid range. It's there, Plenty

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Speaker 3: of the great players shoot it. It's not analytically a

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Speaker 3: able to move without the basketball. That's what makes Steph

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Speaker 1: The season and oftentimes for the postseason.

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Speaker 3: The FEBA game is different. It's incredibly physical, it's incredibly

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Speaker 3: skilled with shooting, with passing, not as much for dribbling,

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Speaker 3: and those teams, I think it plays to their strengths

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Speaker 3: in terms of their athleticism and style, and it also

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Speaker 3: So we're not we were at the crossroads a long

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Speaker 3: time ago. And what happens is at the lower level oftentimes,

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Speaker 3: But we're way advanced. But it's a lot like quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: physically advanced and athletically advanced at a young age that

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Speaker 3: oftentimes we're skipping the skills needed when they play that

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Speaker 3: kid ourselves when we win at a lower level, a

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Speaker 3: with physicality, which is pretty obvious. We have some great

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Speaker 3: think you can you can glean a lot of things

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Speaker 3: from every different athlete and even business people. Let's start

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Speaker 3: with Victor Hoblin, of course, star golfer at Mile Mounter

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Speaker 3: He has has yet to win a major. But the

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Speaker 3: first step is he won the FedEx Cup. He joins

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Speaker 3: us now at All Ball. You kind of had like

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Speaker 3: this whirlwind week, you know, where you've been on so

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Speaker 3: taking your victory lap.

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Speaker 1: I know it's not your style.

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Speaker 3: But now that you've got of gotten a weekend to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it all happens so quickly in the last couple

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Speaker 4: of nice back to Oklahoma. I haven't been here in

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Speaker 4: like three months, and just to see everyone play some

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Speaker 4: it's starting to sink in a little bit more. But

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Speaker 4: now it's time to look at Ryder Cup.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: where did you go play?

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Speaker 1: Oak Tree?

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Speaker 4: So I've been going out to oak Tree National a bunch,

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Speaker 4: but I've been at Carson a couple of the days. It's, uh,

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Speaker 4: the holes are still open. The the fairways are just

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Speaker 3: Okay, So when you go down you're playing with your

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Because now now you got you got the Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you're obviously doing well financially, but now you got all

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Speaker 3: What's the trash talk?

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Speaker 4: Being like, yeah, they're that's That's what I like about

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Speaker 2: Usually just making fun of my clothes.

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Speaker 4: Or or you know, I didn't make enough money, or

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Speaker 2: So they're they're good at that. But it's it's good.

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Speaker 1: Fun even doing this.

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Speaker 3: Since you're what five years old, was there was there

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Speaker 1: A crisis and self confidence.

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Speaker 2: Hm.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, I don't quite know how to explain it it.

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Speaker 3: Well, is there like a process you go through when

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Speaker 3: I just always marvel at guys that are able to

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Speaker 3: Everybody has it, that self doubt, but guys like yourself

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Speaker 1: Prove it wrong.

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Speaker 3: Is there a trigger that you're able to or something

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Speaker 3: you say, is it what what is your process like

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Speaker 3: where you eliminate those doubts?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you can.

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Speaker 4: Instead of focusing on oh am I good enough or not,

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Speaker 4: And when you get there, well, are you still not

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Speaker 4: Because you know you might have something to worry about

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Speaker 3: You you mentioned in so many of these things, and

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Speaker 4: But over the over the summer, obviously he was he

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Speaker 4: And I think when you're gone so much and you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's going to be a blast.

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Speaker 4: and we face a tough team and team of us,

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Speaker 4: but I think our chances are looking pretty good as well.

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Speaker 2: So I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: Let's just be honest, are the American when it's playing

443
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Speaker 3: in American soil and the Americans are playing, we're kind

444
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Speaker 3: of a bouches, right.

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Speaker 2: It's like.

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Speaker 1: Like out, I'll admit it, and I'm sure most of

447
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Speaker 1: the guys admit it. What what what is the is there?

448
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Speaker 3: Like? What's the decorum going to be like? From the

449
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Speaker 3: European style on the European soil?

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Speaker 2: You know, I'd like to think we're a little bit

451
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Speaker 2: classer than you guys, So uh no, I put it

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Speaker 2: this way.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we'll be chugging beers on the first hole,

454
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Speaker 4: slamming him into the ground, put it that way.

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Speaker 2: But now there there'll there'll be some hostilities going back

456
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Speaker 2: and forth. That's just a part of it. But h

457
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Speaker 2: I at least hope it's again.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what we're going into, but obviously they're

459
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Speaker 4: going to be cheering for us. But if the other

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Speaker 4: team starts making putts and playing great golf, then hey,

461
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Speaker 4: you know, hats off to him. That's that's that's good playing.

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00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 4: But uh, you know, still still think there will be

463
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Speaker 4: a significant home home court advantage.

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Speaker 1: Who's the best hang? Who's the best hang on that

465
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Speaker 1: European team?

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Speaker 4: I really like Shane Lowry. He has a great personality.

467
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Speaker 4: Uh Yrrell Hatton too, is is awesome. You know, he

468
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Speaker 4: can get Matt on the course, but I just think

469
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Speaker 4: I find him so entertaining. And Ludwig Aberg the the

470
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Speaker 4: youngest kid on the team that just graduated from Texas

471
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Speaker 4: Tech and and has played awesome.

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Speaker 2: He's he's a really nice kid.

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Speaker 4: I don't know him that well, but he's from Sweden

474
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Speaker 4: and and closer to my age, so I think we

475
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Speaker 4: have a lot in common, but still need some time

476
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Speaker 4: to get to know him. Other than that, I mean,

477
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Speaker 4: the whole team is is is just a bunch of

478
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Speaker 4: great guys. So I'm just looking forward to hang out

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Speaker 4: with him.

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Speaker 1: For you personally.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, winning you know, two weeks in a row, winning

482
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Speaker 3: the fed X Cup is amazing, But what's still left

483
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Speaker 3: is those those majors.

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Speaker 1: The PGA was right within your grasp. What is that like?

485
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Speaker 3: Because you know, Ricky won the players but hasn't broken

486
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Speaker 3: through there. What's that like to be now probably considered,

487
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Speaker 3: you know, the best player to yet to win one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that stuff kind of shifts all the time,

489
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Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean those it seems like now I've taken.

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Speaker 2: A bigger step.

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Speaker 4: Every single year I started out, went in the Puerto

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Speaker 4: Rico Open, and then I won a regular event in

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Speaker 4: my Coba, and then I won some in Europe, and

494
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Speaker 4: then finally I won in the United States and then

495
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Speaker 4: the FedEx Cup at the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: It's like I'm kind of.

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Speaker 4: Moving up the ladder and it feels like a major

498
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Speaker 4: is the next step. But it's and I came close

499
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Speaker 4: a couple of times this year, and I feel like

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Speaker 4: I'm taking I'm a way better golfer than I was

501
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 4: last year, and I feel like my time is gonna

502
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 4: come in those championships. But you can't. I try not

503
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Speaker 4: to focus on it that way. It's like, Okay, next

504
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 4: one's a major championship. Man, I'd really love to win.

505
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 4: Of course, I'd like to win, but you know, it's

506
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Speaker 4: it sounds cliche, but I just gotta work on the

507
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 4: things that I'm I'm working on and stay calm, and

508
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Speaker 4: I think I can pop one off eventually.

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Speaker 1: Number one thing you're working on currently is.

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Speaker 4: Well, I wouldn't say it's just one thing. It's like

511
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 4: my short game has gotten a lot better. And I

512
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 4: wouldn't say there's any technique thing that I have to

513
00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 4: get a lot better with. It's just kind of maintain everything.

514
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 4: And I would say it's more mental at this point,

515
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 4: just making better decisions whatever that entails, and then just

516
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 4: doing a good job of staying calm when I hit

517
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Speaker 4: a bad shot, because I've let bad shots bother me

518
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 4: way too much, and then I let that escalate a

519
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 4: little bit and I just don't seem to play my

520
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 4: best golf instead of you know, the last couple of

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Speaker 4: weeks have been a great lesson in that, man, I

522
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 4: don't have to be leading the tournament after the first

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Speaker 4: round to still have a chance to win a golf tournament.

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Speaker 2: I think in Memphis, I finished.

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Speaker 4: Thirteen, almost had a chance to win, and I was

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Speaker 4: after twenty four holes, I was second to last in

527
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Speaker 4: the field. Wow, And I think that's just that's a

528
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 4: cool lesson to think that Okay, instead of losing to

529
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Speaker 4: your crap when you're in that spot, you know, just

530
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 4: just focus on Okay, if I just get on the

531
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Speaker 4: roll here, I can actually make up a lot of ground.

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Speaker 3: That's that Tiger style grind right there, right, that was

533
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Speaker 3: the magical Tiger was he would find a way to

534
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: grind in the top ten when it didn't didn't appear

535
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 3: possible after the you know, after the first day exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, last thing.

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Speaker 3: You know, you've changed your golf swing, but your body

538
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 3: has changed over the years.

539
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: What's for the better?

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00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: Right You're like fitness to become a huge part of

541
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Speaker 3: what's allowed you to continue to rise.

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00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: What percentage of it is diet, What percentage of it

543
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: is your workout?

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00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 4: That's yeah, it's it's hard to say, but I just

545
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 4: I've kind of if it hasn't been so much for golf,

546
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 4: I've always just wanted to experiment a little bit, see

547
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 4: see what it's going to help me feel better, be

548
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 4: a better athlete. And I remember, just out of school,

549
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 4: I tried a bunch of different stuff. I tried like

550
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 4: fasting and stuff. I ran a lot for a while

551
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: there right out of school, and I got kind of

552
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: addicted to running, and then I kind of stopped doing

553
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 4: that because it wasn't all that great for my golf.

554
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 4: So I started eating a little bit more, change my

555
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 4: diet and and started lifting a bit more weights. And yeah,

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00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 4: it's just still trying to figure out what's what's the

557
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 4: best way to work out for me and for my golf,

558
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 4: but also try to I just want to try to

559
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 4: be very healthy and be the best athlete that I

560
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 4: can I can be outside of golf.

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Speaker 1: So what's the what's what's the hardest thing you had

562
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Speaker 1: to cut out? Dial?

563
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 4: Uh, like not well, I try to not eat that

564
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 4: much like fast food and stuff, so I've never really

565
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 4: had a problem with that. But chips and just you know,

566
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 4: the occasional ice cream here and there. I mean, that's

567
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 4: that's hard to get rid of. And for me, I

568
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 4: got a very addictive personality, so I can't. Once that start,

569
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: there's no going back. So I kind of have to, yeah,

570
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 4: be pretty strict.

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Speaker 2: With on that on that stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, So what's the what are you currently addicted to.

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Speaker 2: Golf? Golf?

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00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 4: I guess and Okay, I'll play poker at the end

575
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: of the night and listen to podcasts, so I'm just

576
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 4: I'm kind of addicted to new information and learning mores,

577
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: push myself, challenge myself.

578
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: I think that's that's fun.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome stuff. Hey man, we'll keep it going.

580
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: And obviously represent the same school that I went to,

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Speaker 3: so it's a great pride to catch up with you.

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Speaker 3: And thanks so much for joining me, and good luck

583
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: in the Ryder Cup. Regardless of planning for the other side,

584
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 3: doesn't matter to me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, I appreciate you having me on.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's it for this edition of All Ball.

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