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Speaker 1: That appreciate so um, because it's I guess this is
Speaker 1: a two part question because one last time you was here, uh,
Speaker 1: you was with with someone else. So but not only
Speaker 1: that I've been hearing room was that I feel like
Speaker 1: you want to address um about the origin of the source.
Speaker 1: So like the beginning the genesis? All right, um, so
Speaker 1: everybody knows that the source started um in Boston, Dave
Speaker 1: May's went to Harvard. I met Dave. I was in
Speaker 1: a group the Almighty Hours so doing my street thing.
Speaker 1: You didn't go to Harvard though, Let's just be clear.
Speaker 1: I lived around the corner from Harvard Street. That's Harvard.
Speaker 1: Harvard and Washington was four corners, so I had a
Speaker 1: little something to do with Harvard, but it was the
Speaker 1: school so so and then um ours before the Source, yeah,
Speaker 1: and already already managed by Flavor Unit. Um No, that
Speaker 1: came after. But I think the artist so got established
Speaker 1: in eighty five and the Arts was probably like eighty
Speaker 1: four maybe three, you know, I say, yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 1: we feel as long as I knew you, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. I thought the source came almighty so and
Speaker 1: then actually Dave the first time we met. How we
Speaker 1: met Dave was we was at a radio station that
Speaker 1: went that Wendy Williams graduated from Emerson College, like all
Speaker 1: the there's a lot of Yeah in Boston, Emerson College
Speaker 1: is where everybody went to college to be a radio
Speaker 1: DJ or whatever. Broadcast. Yeah, I think Stephen Hill went
Speaker 1: to think a few people went there. Um, so they
Speaker 1: would do this thing where um it was like what
Speaker 1: do you call those things when people pick up the
Speaker 1: phone and they get money for you, um telemarketing. So
Speaker 1: people were there telemarketing getting money, trying to raise it
Speaker 1: for the station. And Dave and Dave came down. We
Speaker 1: wish the all Souls down there performing live. And Dave
Speaker 1: came down the interview that that was the first time
Speaker 1: ever there was no source or nothing that interview you for.
Speaker 1: He interviewed us. He wanted to come meet us because
Speaker 1: he had his own radio show at Harvard And that's
Speaker 1: how the sort started because he had a radio show.
Speaker 1: They like they was playing um, you know, like violence
Speaker 1: and ship violent. You know what I'm saying, up papers
Speaker 1: real quick, you know what I'm saying. Listening this taste? Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that's nin a live family. You know what I'm saying. So, okay,
Speaker 1: you did this radio show? How does all right? So
Speaker 1: he has the radio show going, You do this radio
Speaker 1: You have your rs O thing going? How does it
Speaker 1: coming in? Because I believe the source was a pamphlet
Speaker 1: at first start, he started as a newsletter for the
Speaker 1: station basically what was going on a list of the
Speaker 1: top songs that week, what was happening in news and everything,
Speaker 1: And it was him and his buddies. He had four
Speaker 1: buddies that were college buddies that were you know, all
Speaker 1: college guys. You know what I'm saying. Um, they came
Speaker 1: up with the name of the source, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And when basically, my my, My, my DJ,
Speaker 1: who was deaf Jeff at the time, m Jeff two times,
Speaker 1: UM started DJ for his radio show on Saturdays. And
Speaker 1: then you know when when they made the newsletter, you know,
Speaker 1: Dave had to come to the hood because he's in Cambridge,
Speaker 1: so you know, you know what I mean. He gotta
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta go through the hood with somebody,
Speaker 1: you know, so, you know, we took him through the
Speaker 1: hood and he gotta, uh, he gotta add his first
Speaker 1: ad from Skippy White's music store for two hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Imagine that Skippy White, Skippy White. Okay, so now so
Speaker 1: goes from the playmphlet. It's pamphlet obviously comes out correct, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that sounded like right that the pamphlet obviously comes out
Speaker 1: like when does it become a business when it could
Speaker 1: what it could be. I really wasn't paying attention, honestly,
Speaker 1: I got it, you know, I was again the artist
Speaker 1: sold in my street ship. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I was hustling, So I wasn't that you know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention to the to the pamphlet. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I didn't. That was Dave's thing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was doing my thing.
Speaker 1: And then, um, you know I've seen it. And then um,
Speaker 1: I remember he made it into a book form. It
Speaker 1: was it was a small book, black and white. The
Speaker 1: first time it was like a book form. It was
Speaker 1: like like a paperback, very small. I think slick Rick
Speaker 1: might have been the first cover of the booklet, but
Speaker 1: it was black and white. And then I remember, this
Speaker 1: is a funny story. So he would always go back
Speaker 1: home Dave for two d C for the summer. So
Speaker 1: once somebody got locked up for the whole summer and ship,
Speaker 1: so Dave stated, in my apartment and that's where they
Speaker 1: were shipping. That was the office for the source. They
Speaker 1: were shipping out boxes and everything from my apartment that
Speaker 1: he stayed for the summer. She did a little sixty
Speaker 1: days or whatever. He states that curious what was sixty
Speaker 1: days for? Um? I got dragged to them all was
Speaker 1: using the credit card by police. The police credit card.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, my man Trev just got got home that
Speaker 1: we was going to mark this vineyard. I went to Macy,
Speaker 1: spent a whole bunch of money. I had had an
Speaker 1: American Express source card, had saw a song. It was
Speaker 1: a gold card. You know, I'm going in their braids
Speaker 1: half of you know, and so I charged up the stuff.
Speaker 1: I remember I bought my mother's song there I think
Speaker 1: it was. It was around February, around her birthday. So
Speaker 1: we ended up coming outside and I remember we was,
Speaker 1: you know, the police came say, hey, I want to
Speaker 1: see your license out and not. I said, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: you don't see my license for I've already bought it.
Speaker 1: The lady already gave and received it. We've already passed that.
Speaker 1: So I want to see a license. I said, I'm
Speaker 1: not giving you my license and rough me up with
Speaker 1: the mace. You know what I'm saying. So what happened
Speaker 1: was I had an old charge and this was in Quincy.
Speaker 1: So they made me cop out to the old charge
Speaker 1: and I had to do sixty days. Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some stupid ship you just got arrested for the like
Speaker 1: the same type of ship, right you flipped on the
Speaker 1: train flipped on the Chinese. What happened? You were right?
Speaker 1: You say, I was like, what I even say that?
Speaker 1: First of all, the rest of all it was the
Speaker 1: man who was who? You know? It was the man? Right?
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm just chilling at the crib where
Speaker 1: I live is like man se white people was quiet
Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon, eleven o'clock. Ain't nobody out there, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No dogs, nothing out there. It's just
Speaker 1: you know, it's just some beautiful day. Why is you
Speaker 1: running my plate? You know what I'm saying, What then
Speaker 1: is you running my plate for? And then he said,
Speaker 1: then I don't know, you know. So I got up,
Speaker 1: said said some things. You know what I'm sounding after while,
Speaker 1: you get tired of this ship, your whole life getting
Speaker 1: pulled over, profiled, harassed. That ship is whack man. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I just got fed up, man,
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm being honest. It's the true story.
Speaker 1: I went down to the station. So by then, you know,
Speaker 1: like when they take you down to the station, they
Speaker 1: knock you up before you do your fingerprints. So I said,
Speaker 1: I told him come here before he left, and ship
Speaker 1: I apologized to him, I did because you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, at the end of the day, at a
Speaker 1: point that I wasn't raised like that, and you know,
Speaker 1: I got kids, and at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: like I really ain't racist, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So I don't want to. I just was like, I've
Speaker 1: just seen the cop and I was just trying to
Speaker 1: make him mad. You know what I'm saying. Everybody's a
Speaker 1: little bit prejudice. No, I really Everybody'll be honest, everybody
Speaker 1: I'm prejudiced against prejudice. I'm prejudiced. Like I've really never
Speaker 1: just seen somebody and was like, yeah, fuck him because
Speaker 1: he's white, or fuck him because he's like looking about
Speaker 1: the stereotypes, Like yeah, that's really listen my grandpa. I
Speaker 1: have two of the most racist grandfathers, both of them.
Speaker 1: I got my my Spanish grandfather. He's racist. He only
Speaker 1: like Puerto Ricans hold like four ricons. And then I
Speaker 1: got my black grandfather. They both passed away only like
Speaker 1: black people. Nick as soon as mused to come and
Speaker 1: he's like, oh Spanish people is here, how, like yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my grandfather's And then my other grandfather he said
Speaker 1: to me this stereotype. Well, I guess it is Spanish
Speaker 1: Spanish people coming on. That was like, you know, so
Speaker 1: what I'm saying everybody is a little bit prejudice. Like,
Speaker 1: come on, I'm sorry to say this, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: tell me that if you see somebody right now in
Speaker 1: the car accident and one of the people was Asian,
Speaker 1: you ain't going on that biggase they've fall. Come on,
Speaker 1: you can laugh at that, nigga. Come on, come on
Speaker 1: a little bit, because it's a room one that the
Speaker 1: agent you know, you know, you know, like they got
Speaker 1: sucked up eyes. What No, I'm the only one that
Speaker 1: heard that they can't drink. I don't think the reason
Speaker 1: why you heard that he's real. That's the reason why
Speaker 1: they said they can drive. I thought that No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you got you to do se we want, we want,
Speaker 1: we want the gorilla bus. Jesus man, let me drinking
Speaker 1: that sweet ship. Come on, you're a brown drinker. You
Speaker 1: remember we drink with you and you can wound up
Speaker 1: in a wheel chair. Do you remember that one day
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm drinking with you today. You know,
Speaker 1: I was like where I like, but I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie I did not anticipate the wheelchair, but when it
Speaker 1: when it happens before instagram ship Instagram. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, when you drinking the wheel chair is there?
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do? You're wheelchairs? Definitely, definitely, And I
Speaker 1: apologize to any Asian people who took that the wrong way.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that because me tell you, let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. I get more. You know, it was
Speaker 1: heavy and my d MS like, yo're just the fucking mob.
Speaker 1: We're gonna kill you. Try to back up my d
Speaker 1: MS and was like, yo, bro, you know you're a legend. Bro,
Speaker 1: and man, listen, you know people look up. I wasn't see.
Speaker 1: I don't me. I'ma be honest, Like, it took me
Speaker 1: a while to understand social media. So a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff with social media with me, if I don't pay
Speaker 1: attention to it after the first three days is gone.
Speaker 1: So that's you know, stuff that that probably is good
Speaker 1: towards me. I won't even look at it, you know,
Speaker 1: because I don't want to react a certain way. This
Speaker 1: is what I mean. Everybody's prejudice. I'm so sorry dropping around.
Speaker 1: But like if you ever see like a person argue
Speaker 1: and then that person's fat. And the first thing they
Speaker 1: say is I'm not older, like you know what I'm Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not touching the person got glasses and ship calling
Speaker 1: for eyes like everyone's a little prejudice. Yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: not touching the fat ship because trust me, my dms
Speaker 1: will be filled with But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you people people sensitive, man, and you gotta
Speaker 1: be careful. We have Wayne he said, don't give a
Speaker 1: about people sensitivity. He said, yeah, he's a comedian. He
Speaker 1: really can't. You're gonna do his craft. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but that ship could fuck you up in business work.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He's already you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But you can get blacklisted. You say the
Speaker 1: wrong ship and Marlon Wayne's you know he won't be
Speaker 1: getting them big movies. You say the wrong ship, I
Speaker 1: bet you won't say no wrong ship about no Jews
Speaker 1: bant that. Yeah great? So when did you when when
Speaker 1: did this sword become a thing for you? When it
Speaker 1: was I gotta go back to the being dragged out
Speaker 1: the mall. Yeah, I'm just no, no, no, I mean look,
Speaker 1: I mean listen, the source thing was was was formed
Speaker 1: by Dave May's and his college graduate and his college
Speaker 1: guys as how many and how I got set up
Speaker 1: with the source was when um, you know, Daved like
Speaker 1: would have because he had the source, he would be
Speaker 1: connected to different people in the labels, so he would
Speaker 1: invite the A and oars when labels had A and oars,
Speaker 1: come down and come see the group we've opened up for.
Speaker 1: Tradrey opened up for L L, every B everybody that came,
Speaker 1: we would open up for and we'd be doing our
Speaker 1: own ship anywhere. So um, yeah, I mean ship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like it wasn't un tell that
Speaker 1: a story was put in about the RS. So where see,
Speaker 1: you gotta understand this is my theory. Maybe I'm prejudiced,
Speaker 1: O maybe your practice with this? All right, And I
Speaker 1: know I might take a lot of flak for this,
Speaker 1: but college people, college people like at the beginning, this
Speaker 1: is my own theory. I smoke and I come up
Speaker 1: with theories, and all right, we all do. All right.
Speaker 1: So college when when hip hop first came up? When
Speaker 1: when when you have a kid that's living in the
Speaker 1: hood and he goes to college, you know, sometimes the
Speaker 1: kid turns his back on the hood because he's living
Speaker 1: that college life now and he thinks automatically that it's
Speaker 1: not like a bad thing, but he thinks that's what
Speaker 1: he's supposed to do. I'm supposed to go to college
Speaker 1: and get the funk out of that life and get
Speaker 1: away from that life. But here's what happens when hip
Speaker 1: hop comes. There's a divide now when gangster music comes
Speaker 1: and street music comes now, because you know, college kids
Speaker 1: ain't with all that, but in their in their privacy
Speaker 1: of their rooms and everything they're listening to, you ain't
Speaker 1: put the hat on, and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because it gets them amped
Speaker 1: up because there's something about the streets, in the in
Speaker 1: the like the just that life that people are intrigued
Speaker 1: and they want to be right okay. So then well
Speaker 1: the street guy is like, oh man, well, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, funk that y'all ain't street. So y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all can't live you don't know what it is to
Speaker 1: live like you know what I'm saying that way, So
Speaker 1: there's always been like a you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Have you ever went to like a college party that
Speaker 1: you're saying. Good, at that time, college people didn't belong
Speaker 1: in hip hop at that I wouldn't say belong in
Speaker 1: hip hop. What I would say is this not running
Speaker 1: the magazine. What I would say, no, not even run
Speaker 1: the magazine. But like when Gangster Rap came, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying to me, You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it would have been more. You know, the more street
Speaker 1: guys you have rating music and writing, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: the problem is street guys don't. Aren't journalists back, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You got the college kids are,
Speaker 1: so it's always so it's like it's cool when you
Speaker 1: have like Q tipping them like that movement that you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like that's non violent and even
Speaker 1: Chuck D in them movement with pro Black. There was
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that was just made hip hop
Speaker 1: that was really for colleges. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like non violent, non but but but the street music
Speaker 1: is what We're not four colleges, but it was they
Speaker 1: were the ones that it was. Yeah, because it wasn't
Speaker 1: it was for everybody right, it was it was for
Speaker 1: everybody right. But when Gangster Rat came, it was like
Speaker 1: the streets whatever against the right to my iced tea,
Speaker 1: and yeah, man, like that's what we came up off.
Speaker 1: Because some people credit school e D was to do
Speaker 1: for school Philadelphia. School e D came out with the songs. No,
Speaker 1: you wasn't thinking school D was a gangster when you
Speaker 1: heard PS. You didn't think that. Now he might have
Speaker 1: been a real nigger in his hood, but the deception wasn't.
Speaker 1: The music wasn't gangster in the image, like you didn't
Speaker 1: see it, you know what, n W way you you
Speaker 1: actually felt that right now, what then is going on?
Speaker 1: I'm not drinking. That's come up with a different so yeah,
Speaker 1: so so so so. Now Dave and his college guys,
Speaker 1: you know, David, his college guys are the ones up
Speaker 1: there doing the journalistic They're the ones rating the albums,
Speaker 1: and everyone huh Me and Dave's relationship was they were
Speaker 1: all the people up there would always look at it
Speaker 1: as you know, Dave's hanging around these street guys, and
Speaker 1: the rumor was that he was being stored and you
Speaker 1: was the guy who came and like stop their story
Speaker 1: that happened. No, no, no, no, not nobody was Nobody
Speaker 1: was stilled nobody at that time. The source wasn't even
Speaker 1: making a lot of money. I mean, it was doing decent,
Speaker 1: but like these kids already had, they all came for money,
Speaker 1: like they came from good parents and good homes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. They went to h
Speaker 1: Edward Young and James Bernard and you know, these guys
Speaker 1: were like, you know, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They wasn't, you know, fucked up in the game. So, um,
Speaker 1: they just to me automatically. They just didn't like me
Speaker 1: at all. I mean you could, but but let's let's
Speaker 1: just get to the why did Dave actually come to you?
Speaker 1: And I'm saying because because all right, so the financing
Speaker 1: so as no no, no, no no. As time went on, um,
Speaker 1: you know again, our relationship grew and he's he's he's
Speaker 1: not our manager because we've never signed nothing but exact
Speaker 1: and everything he's doing is like managerish. So he did
Speaker 1: a story on us. It tastes like Jesus pussy right here. Whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: it's phenomenous. He wasn't saying that with just this one, right,
Speaker 1: I'll take Jesus pussy back, man, Come on, come on,
Speaker 1: it's nice. It's it's nice. It's nice. It's nice. This
Speaker 1: is nice. It's nice. What we're talking about. You just
Speaker 1: we got with with Dave. So they they put all
Speaker 1: the core about the US in the magazine. Uh, this
Speaker 1: is when a ma he blew up the magazine that
Speaker 1: there was in New York at this time. They moved
Speaker 1: the office they put the article. Now they got a
Speaker 1: pretty big staff this time. When he did the article,
Speaker 1: the dude that he sent down to do the article
Speaker 1: was Bones Malone. Now, Bones Malone was in Remember Life,
Speaker 1: the movie Life Remember at the end Heavy Dan. The
Speaker 1: dude was shoveling Bones, Bones Malone, and the culture was
Speaker 1: like a hip hop guy writer you know. Later on Yeah,
Speaker 1: he went to funk with Vive. Okay, so um, they
Speaker 1: sent Bones to do the article. Bones is roding Russ
Speaker 1: and Boston. He's seeing how real it is. I actually
Speaker 1: got locked up with Bones. I got locked up warrant
Speaker 1: for something. But honotually got locked up with Bones and
Speaker 1: I got built out. Bones left. He was supposed to
Speaker 1: stay for three days. He didn't want to finish the story.
Speaker 1: The people like all that. I guess they all got
Speaker 1: together was like, nobody do that story. Because they didn't.
Speaker 1: They felt like we didn't deserve a story. Who's who's
Speaker 1: the people, all the staff, the whole staff other than they,
Speaker 1: the entire staff thought that we didn't deserve a story.
Speaker 1: And that remind you. At this point, we had been
Speaker 1: signed by easy Well that he had died, We had
Speaker 1: signed Tommy Boy Records, we got signed our c A,
Speaker 1: we had a few things out what and plus our
Speaker 1: man owned the magazine. Why can't we just get the
Speaker 1: little feature? We never that. We didn't have a feature
Speaker 1: up until then, I never had it. It was it
Speaker 1: was the red Man covered with the ARTISTI on his nose.
Speaker 1: So Dave ended up finishing the fucking article and article himself.
Speaker 1: I knew he wasn't gonna pass back, so I had
Speaker 1: another one ready. You know you're too long, man, This
Speaker 1: is all right now, I want real congradulations. So um,
Speaker 1: so they did the article and that's the first article
Speaker 1: came out. Next thing, you know, the whole staff a
Speaker 1: letter to Dave and said step down else we're all
Speaker 1: walking out. That's like everybody here writing a letter. You said,
Speaker 1: leave drinks, leave, fuck your percentage sucking money, just leave
Speaker 1: and go now right. They said that they broke the
Speaker 1: integrity of the magazine by putting the story in US,
Speaker 1: and you know, and that you know, I was this
Speaker 1: bad guy and all the ships. So they had put
Speaker 1: the letter around, sent it to everybody in the industry,
Speaker 1: radio stations, record labels like it just you know, so man,
Speaker 1: it kind of sucked us up. That was like the
Speaker 1: first time we started getting like, you know, like a
Speaker 1: bad rep in the industry because we wasn't from New York.
Speaker 1: You know, New York look out for New York back then,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We were right down the
Speaker 1: street New York. Wasn't working with Boston like that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So um as far as hip
Speaker 1: hop goes, so um. Yeah. Like and then you know,
Speaker 1: Dave and then firing all of them. He bought out
Speaker 1: the other three partners and then came to me because
Speaker 1: I stuck with him. You know, I had to go
Speaker 1: up to New York and kind of you know, stand
Speaker 1: by the side because you know, it was getting a
Speaker 1: little crazy. You know what I'm saying. They was threatening
Speaker 1: them and ship and it's all based and solely around
Speaker 1: because of that article period period. And it wasn't like
Speaker 1: it was an article saying the music is this good
Speaker 1: that just like days, these are days. Friends. They should
Speaker 1: not be in the magazine. They don't deserve it, they
Speaker 1: don't deserve a feature. And at that time you're not
Speaker 1: considered the partner. Correct, No, not okay, So this article
Speaker 1: comes out, they do this, you can come to New York.
Speaker 1: At that time, I was getting more money in the Source,
Speaker 1: you know Instry. That's like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It wasn't you know, I mean like they was doing
Speaker 1: their thing. But it just was just every time I
Speaker 1: would go, like I throughout my whole life, I never
Speaker 1: had an office in the Source. Ever, office. I would
Speaker 1: always just go up there Dave's country be and not
Speaker 1: just sit there smoking blunt. We would just talk about
Speaker 1: any meetings whatever. But I never had an office. I
Speaker 1: never felt comfortable at the Source. My whole time there
Speaker 1: with the staff felt like and then sometimes I would
Speaker 1: want to smoke weed with him, bring him to the
Speaker 1: fire escape and try to be cool. As time went
Speaker 1: on and ended up that you know, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: do you think you could talk to Dave Man about
Speaker 1: my pay? Do you think you could talk to that?
Speaker 1: Do you think you could? It was always them coming
Speaker 1: to me because Dave was always kind of like the
Speaker 1: mean one to kind of flipped. But back then, like
Speaker 1: they all walked out day fire, them came to me
Speaker 1: and said, Yo, it's just me and you. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'll give you half the magazine and
Speaker 1: half the percentage. And I was like, all right then
Speaker 1: then still see no money. It was not like you
Speaker 1: gave me some money and then you signed an actual
Speaker 1: cars tract. No, this is a handshake, just a handshake. Um,
Speaker 1: do we sign a contract? I don't know, that's a
Speaker 1: good question. Maybe maybe now I don't even remember. I
Speaker 1: just remember, like I do remember him saying, look, you
Speaker 1: want to get down, you know you want? I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: why not? You know what I'm saying. But I really
Speaker 1: didn't do anything for a while, Like I didn't do ship.
Speaker 1: It wasn't nothing. I was, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But as time went on, I learned more about the
Speaker 1: business and branding of it, and then finding other ways
Speaker 1: to get money outside just the pages, like the Source
Speaker 1: Awards had lot to do with me. And you also
Speaker 1: created onside hype right, No, no, unsigned happed. Wasn't mind
Speaker 1: that that was that was the source of Maddie Maddie
Speaker 1: see some run outside that. Yeah, not like I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't you know, Five Mix wasn't Hid did none
Speaker 1: of that. But the things like the Source hip Hop Hits,
Speaker 1: the Source Awards, Source All Access TV show with Lisa
Speaker 1: Ray and Tretch. You know what I'm saying, we had
Speaker 1: on syndication um and then like my presence, I always
Speaker 1: felt like this, do you do y'all know? Do y'all
Speaker 1: know anybody that XXL from the streets? Like can y'all
Speaker 1: like when you think Excel, do you think of any
Speaker 1: nigger from the street Vibe magazine. People wanna understand, hip
Speaker 1: hop wasn't made in colleges. Hip hop wasn't made in
Speaker 1: the boardrooms. Hip Hop was made in the ghettos and
Speaker 1: the streets. And that's and and people people take that
Speaker 1: for granted. But that's just what the funk it is,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The people from the streets,
Speaker 1: you know, that's like you know your whole dead, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But there is a room now nowadays,
Speaker 1: there is a place for this college map Like you
Speaker 1: have a Kanye West as example, It's involved and you
Speaker 1: have a Parole as an example, or lou Paper. But
Speaker 1: of course you're saying this is at the original, this
Speaker 1: is the origin of it. Yeah, okay, being part of
Speaker 1: the show, God damn it, Harry go Hey, alright, alright,
Speaker 1: so what were we talking about? A little clazy? You
Speaker 1: could argue the same thing that you're saying. That has
Speaker 1: to do with where the music comes from, and and
Speaker 1: these guys running the magazine is the same for the
Speaker 1: industry as a whole, like the record labels, guys that
Speaker 1: were marrying the music that weren't from that's always been places.
Speaker 1: My problem is they don't respect people that the industry
Speaker 1: never respected the streets. You know what I'm saying, They
Speaker 1: never respect the streets. And that's why I was what
Speaker 1: I brought to the source. I think I brought a
Speaker 1: credibility because after a while, you know, I started like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is my magazine. I started getting more involved
Speaker 1: with the covers and more involved with decision making. Like
Speaker 1: I hired Kim as the first female editor. Never never
Speaker 1: happened before, yet she got hired as the first editor.
Speaker 1: M Carlito Rodriguez, he came was locked up him right
Speaker 1: out of jail, Moras. Oh, listen, a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of these people from the soul. So are these guys.
Speaker 1: They were all doing amazing things with networks and everything, right,
Speaker 1: but but a lot of them was you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean that to Tari Over with TV producer over
Speaker 1: it growing up hip hop? He was I thought he
Speaker 1: was gonna be a part of growing up hip hop.
Speaker 1: What'll happened? Oh man, pip hop man, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of That's a whole other story, whole other story. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it was just you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: they wanted me and my daughter. They want to court.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, They wanted court. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: she's she's doing her thing. But you know, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, family things, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we didn't decide to do it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, you don't have to talk about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah definitely. But all right, so let's
Speaker 1: getting back to the sauce. So now he comes to
Speaker 1: you when he says fifty and so now there wasn't
Speaker 1: no money, I don't get no money nothing. Okay, but
Speaker 1: what time frame we're talking about so we couldn't understand what.
Speaker 1: You'll be honest with you, I still I still wasn't
Speaker 1: like I'm getting ready to get big money. Even when
Speaker 1: he made me a pardner, I still wasn't like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get millions of dollars like I didn't think about
Speaker 1: of that, you know what I'm saying. When the money came,
Speaker 1: it just was like a blood because it was just
Speaker 1: like what the funk man, Like after after they got
Speaker 1: fired and we cleaned house, that's when everything just started
Speaker 1: going crazy. Like I mean, it was just it was
Speaker 1: just too much money. And I didn't I didn't, you
Speaker 1: know what's like, because you just you just just you
Speaker 1: didn't think about money and didn't you because when he
Speaker 1: made me a partner, I'm like, you're like, why cool?
Speaker 1: Whatever you know I tried to do, I wasn't making
Speaker 1: money prior to that, right, I'm to out legally right,
Speaker 1: I was getting my street on. Okay, all right, that's
Speaker 1: not so about all right? So how long after when
Speaker 1: you became a partner the money actually come in. Let's
Speaker 1: see years, years, yeah, years, like ninety nine, Like I
Speaker 1: wasn't but you started at night? No, no, like no, no,
Speaker 1: I probably like ninety four, so years later I probably
Speaker 1: got started seeing money from the source of ninety nine,
Speaker 1: maybe around maybe, but from Nino oh three crazy. It's
Speaker 1: like the Wolf of Wall Street. You're sucking out, sucking
Speaker 1: anything out there. Stottle. Yeah, it was a good time
Speaker 1: because I mean we was getting twenty five thousand dollars
Speaker 1: and that, and we had eight eight ads every month. Correct.
Speaker 1: It was like I just look, I remember, I was like,
Speaker 1: I mean we would we would go to l A
Speaker 1: and we would just like spend hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 1: hotel rooms and just stayed it for months, like at
Speaker 1: the Beverly Hills and just sitting I wouldn't want to leave.
Speaker 1: They'll be like, yeah, we're gonna I'm not gonna stay
Speaker 1: here for a few more weeks and ship. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I just didn't have any like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I just thought that the money
Speaker 1: and see I never questioned Dave with the books or anything,
Speaker 1: you know, I just know that I had a couple
Speaker 1: of cards and I was tanying off to the film
Speaker 1: off the Motherfucker's you know what I'm saying, And all
Speaker 1: my niggas just like how you. That's why I love
Speaker 1: you because you all your niggas and it's the same
Speaker 1: faces I had. I was bringing my niggas all over
Speaker 1: the world, eating lobsters and stay. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you know I stayed at the Beverly Hills. I'd
Speaker 1: be in the bungalow, but they'd still be in the
Speaker 1: main spot, which is still beautiful. Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you know, no, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: so you know, but but I didn't save anything. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I didn't say nothing. Know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was supposed to supposed to like every
Speaker 1: night you got a little life man, You got a
Speaker 1: little life man. Yeah but yeah, but yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah but if if if I didn't, if I
Speaker 1: didn't know to invest some ship, then you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know I would invest the track right now?
Speaker 1: What is that open? That's open already? Or no? We
Speaker 1: got about a couple more weeks now we put a
Speaker 1: new hood and what was what southdcap all got to
Speaker 1: be soft? What South decap the cab South Decap the
Speaker 1: cab South South Decabb. You know what actually you trying
Speaker 1: to put on I try to South Cat. Why That's
Speaker 1: That's one thing I know about you. You really really
Speaker 1: know how to cook, like you really know how to cook.
Speaker 1: Like you had the best trimming grits I ever had.
Speaker 1: It's like you just came over that. That's because you
Speaker 1: you you know I'm talking about you know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. It just one day, were just at the
Speaker 1: crib and we were just bored. He was like, you
Speaker 1: went through my ship and it's like, oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: look this right now. And I was like, like it
Speaker 1: was just and you just you wasn't even prepared, like
Speaker 1: that's how and it was just so he gave me
Speaker 1: some shrimps right with that Tofu Yeah, yeah, yeah, just
Speaker 1: the funny ship. Right, it's just tofu. But they cut
Speaker 1: it like it's and they put two little black eyes,
Speaker 1: like what the fund is this? But but they put
Speaker 1: a bay on it, so like it tastes like you know,
Speaker 1: it tastes like slime on it. And he's also blacks
Speaker 1: in the first only person in the history of life
Speaker 1: to bring pork in my house, and he brings park
Speaker 1: in my house. He brought the park shoulder. I didn't
Speaker 1: even think a pink got a shoulder. My dude, like,
Speaker 1: how did you know that this thing I brought? I
Speaker 1: thought I was doing something right thanks Giving I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking he's porter we kid. I'm saying, we showder
Speaker 1: it's the truth. Just thinking maybe take the park show
Speaker 1: to put it in the liver room a punk show.
Speaker 1: Was sitting by the team. He was madest man, so said,
Speaker 1: he gives you and what part would you started taking
Speaker 1: it serious when he was like, you know what, this
Speaker 1: can be my my ticket to get out of the streets. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't, man, I swear like they was just the
Speaker 1: time where I was just doing so much drugs or
Speaker 1: spending so much money and running around with females and
Speaker 1: just doing all kind of ships. It's like I really
Speaker 1: didn't like it was. It was a time where definitely
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't look at I didn't look at
Speaker 1: things for probably what the way I should have been
Speaker 1: looking at him. You know what I'm saying. I just
Speaker 1: the money was coming and I was just spending it.
Speaker 1: I wasn't writing articles in the magazine. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know, um, I think I think there
Speaker 1: was a period of time like maybe maybe, like oh maybe,
Speaker 1: like oh one where you know what I'm saying with
Speaker 1: the Source Awards and everything, doing a few of them.
Speaker 1: And you see, because with me, I always felt like
Speaker 1: nobody liked me. I felt like nobody like gave me
Speaker 1: credit anyways. Like anytime I felt like I did do something,
Speaker 1: I never got credit for it from the people at
Speaker 1: the staff. I never got credit from like you know,
Speaker 1: I already got a bad rep you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying with with everybody in the industry, like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's almost like I had to
Speaker 1: wear that ship where it's like what was man dahn?
Speaker 1: They don't like me anyway. So it was like a
Speaker 1: point where I was like, funky, I'm not gonna get
Speaker 1: the credit for anyway, So funk them, Funk everybody who cares.
Speaker 1: And I remember, I never forget it when we lost
Speaker 1: the Source, right we're in New York's New York's rough,
Speaker 1: like New York's rough on athletes, anybody like you could
Speaker 1: have just won three World Series and you sucked the
Speaker 1: last two years, get out, we don't even give a
Speaker 1: funk about it. I felt like that with the Source,
Speaker 1: and we lost that it was like I felt like
Speaker 1: the whole New York, in the whole industry was just like, yeah, nigga,
Speaker 1: you lost it. See lay to get the funk out
Speaker 1: of here. And it was like, you know, it was
Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was like it was when
Speaker 1: y'all was up. No, not me. I was never. I
Speaker 1: mean Dave Dyve used to rub you know a few
Speaker 1: because day it was like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like a real harsh type of guy, like you know
Speaker 1: business and you know, like the Hawk, But me, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Nah, Hell no, I was I'm
Speaker 1: the same nigga like and nigga's noticed, man, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you wouldn't even know whether I
Speaker 1: had money or not, because I'm just gonna be the
Speaker 1: same nigga. Like if you all around and we're together,
Speaker 1: we're gonna smoke eat. If I'm shopping with y'all, everybody
Speaker 1: gets something like, I don't you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I never really because I was always getting money in
Speaker 1: the streets anyway. So it's not like and even when
Speaker 1: I lost the source, I felt like ship I go
Speaker 1: back to the streets. I felt bad for Dave. But wait,
Speaker 1: wait before you lost it. You guys lost the sorce.
Speaker 1: Is there any truth to everybody saying that you were
Speaker 1: you're giving yourselves a mix and you was giving yourself No, no, not.
Speaker 1: The only time I gave myself the mix was the
Speaker 1: Eminem situation, and I had it. I felt like at
Speaker 1: that point because it was me against the staff, me
Speaker 1: against everybody. I felt like at that point, I was like,
Speaker 1: funk everybody. I just I was in a I was
Speaker 1: in a dark place where I felt like I'm standing
Speaker 1: up for something that's right. I know deep down what
Speaker 1: I'm standing for. It's just not rapping, but I just
Speaker 1: felt like nobody backed me. Nobody. I felt like the industry,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I had to learn
Speaker 1: it's the hallway, Like you can't look at the industry
Speaker 1: to be um righteous, loyal righteous. You know, you can't
Speaker 1: look at them to be revolution and it's about making
Speaker 1: money and you know what, I'm at that point that
Speaker 1: maybe because I was already making money, I just took
Speaker 1: it for granted people because I didn't have to answer
Speaker 1: to nobody, like I was at the top of the
Speaker 1: food change what you had, grditance to do it all
Speaker 1: over what you do the Eminem thing in the same way,
Speaker 1: it's hard to say that. It's hard. It's hard to
Speaker 1: go back and say what you do anything is over
Speaker 1: because because it's like, you know what I'm saying like that.
Speaker 1: You know, at that time I was I felt deep
Speaker 1: about my my what I was. You know what I
Speaker 1: was standing for. You know what I'm saying. My thing
Speaker 1: was hip hop. And I always said this and people
Speaker 1: have heard it before. Hip hop is the only thing
Speaker 1: that made white people come to the culture, buy into
Speaker 1: the culture, spend money, and also interact with the culture
Speaker 1: through hip hop. Nothing else has happened. Nothing's nothing else
Speaker 1: that brought white people to black people then that Okay,
Speaker 1: So I felt like once they get a white rapper
Speaker 1: and make him white where that white people want to
Speaker 1: buy him, then they then they funk with that balance
Speaker 1: because now white people, we'll just funk with him because
Speaker 1: because of the skin color. Before they had to come
Speaker 1: funk with us because that's the music. Like I didn't
Speaker 1: feel that way about the Beastie Boys, I didn't feel
Speaker 1: that way about Third Base. Out of it with Eminem,
Speaker 1: I just felt like, Okay, hip hop is big now.
Speaker 1: It's a pop. Now, now we need a white people
Speaker 1: are buying into it. Excuse me, Now we need a
Speaker 1: white person to represent the white people. And that's just
Speaker 1: what happened. What I said happened happened period, Like anybody
Speaker 1: that even tries to food himself, like like he came
Speaker 1: in and there was a whole there's a whole whole.
Speaker 1: There's a whole demographic of white people who just ain't
Speaker 1: fucking with niggas, period. I don't give a funk. They
Speaker 1: just ain't fuck Those are the guys who vote for
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. You know, no matter what fun policies, you
Speaker 1: don't funk with niggas, then we're fucking with you, all right.
Speaker 1: And it's just it's it's a it's a color thing,
Speaker 1: it's a tribe thing that that's That's just what it is.
Speaker 1: And since they outnumber black people, since white people out
Speaker 1: black people, they're gonna win, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So so I just felt like Eminem, and Eminem didn't
Speaker 1: even have to be the one I'm gonna say because
Speaker 1: it's necessarily his fault. But but but right, right, But
Speaker 1: but when you look at the Eminem siture, hip hop
Speaker 1: is more than just rap. It's a culture, it's a
Speaker 1: it's it's our life. It's just isn't rap, it is
Speaker 1: just this isn't wrap. You know what I'm saying, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's our life. So you know, to him, I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's wrap. You know what I'm saying. But unless
Speaker 1: you grew up in the culture, you could never know.
Speaker 1: I don't feel Eminem is of the culture himself. He's
Speaker 1: he raps of of the culture of of no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Eminem is not in the culture that I'm from. That's
Speaker 1: not a bad thing. I'm not mad at that. A
Speaker 1: lot of people ain't. But he's not. We're not from
Speaker 1: the same coaches. He grew up one way. I grew
Speaker 1: up a whole different way. That's where you come. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's what I mean culture, You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like he grew up where there
Speaker 1: was not too many black people and growing up around
Speaker 1: black people and how we live like like nor we said,
Speaker 1: it's funny are we talking about this? And you kind
Speaker 1: of started the conversations about prejudice. But the reason why
Speaker 1: it's prejudice because we all have our own ship the
Speaker 1: way we grew up each race of people. As long
Speaker 1: as we respect it, it's good. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you don't think like somebody trying to black dude in Nascar,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a hard time. Like if you see
Speaker 1: a Spanish dude and a white dude right now someone's staff,
Speaker 1: you immediately say the Spanish dude did he I I'm
Speaker 1: just saying. I'm just being honest, like, and I'm spanning,
Speaker 1: so it hurts me. If there's a knife involved and
Speaker 1: i see a Spanish doing the white dude, I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got him, that's true. I'm not agree with you. Now,
Speaker 1: Look if there was an a K forty seven, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that you know with five schools
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, We know so, but
Speaker 1: but this is the ship. So at one point, at
Speaker 1: one point it had to be you know, he was
Speaker 1: he was running the operation at one point, yeah, running it.
Speaker 1: Like everything had to go through me, like pretty much.
Speaker 1: I mean many years was that if you remember from
Speaker 1: I would say two thousand to two thousand four ish
Speaker 1: that when you had clubs Zeno out here, clubs zo
Speaker 1: I got Maston clubs zo clubs. They know it was
Speaker 1: not fun. Bro, it was not fun. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: the funny ship. Listen. This is the funny ship. That's
Speaker 1: what listen. Listen. So me, I was you and you
Speaker 1: both hit me like you'll come to the club. So
Speaker 1: I come to the club, my nigger. I walk in
Speaker 1: and this is I think it's Jarrold party, but it's
Speaker 1: your club if both my friends at the time. But
Speaker 1: I don't want to ask for no free bottles. So
Speaker 1: I went and I bought like five bottles about dude.
Speaker 1: As soon as my bottles come to Eller's fight breaks out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not leaving. I just want this ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I don't give a funk. The whole club left.
Speaker 1: I still didn't drink. I'm not just made for the ship.
Speaker 1: And then the dude came and just makes everybody. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I gotta deal with it. I gotta
Speaker 1: deal with that fish. My ship. This is a Pops
Speaker 1: with managing time. I mean, I just about the club
Speaker 1: because I was tired of getting fresh, going through problems,
Speaker 1: getting in mention everywhere. So I see know what we're
Speaker 1: gonna get this collected. I lost a lot of money
Speaker 1: in that club. I didn't make no money in that club.
Speaker 1: But we have we have fun. So let's let's let's
Speaker 1: stay on the source now. So you're sick. So everything
Speaker 1: was running through you. When you say everything was running
Speaker 1: through you, this is the covers, This is the mic
Speaker 1: I was started at this point. Yeah, I was like
Speaker 1: checking covers. I came up with the hip hop behind
Speaker 1: Boss cover. That was one of my most influential, biggest
Speaker 1: covers ever at that time. I think it was um Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I know, I remember a l I
Speaker 1: remember c murder. Um, I'm not sure it was. It was.
Speaker 1: It was a bunch it was, it was. It was
Speaker 1: a bunch of people, but it was no one's ever
Speaker 1: done that. Then I would do like the double covers.
Speaker 1: Then I was like I was coming with themed covers,
Speaker 1: like I was really you know, we were smoking, we
Speaker 1: were being the creative, very creative, very creative. We sit
Speaker 1: there smoke talk Dave and Dave as a monster with
Speaker 1: just writing everything down the notes. I mean, he's a
Speaker 1: monster with everything You're going this house, there's notes everywhere,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. So you ever spent
Speaker 1: money on um, that's stupid ass chain which one. I mean,
Speaker 1: buying all that juwilry and then only getting like a
Speaker 1: quarter of what you spend is the dumbest thing you
Speaker 1: could ever do. Like, that's just real ship. That's the
Speaker 1: biggest appreciation you could. You know, out of guns, some
Speaker 1: people invest in guns. You get more out of out
Speaker 1: of fire arms. Jesus, I don't know where we're going.
Speaker 1: There's people there, yes, I know people that just investment.
Speaker 1: I don't know where we're going because when laws changed,
Speaker 1: the press goes up the guns. Yeah, you gotta drink something.
Speaker 1: You're just pouring some more in but you ain't drinking
Speaker 1: none of that. Come on, brother, Come on, brother, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you know this. This is a platform
Speaker 1: where we celebrate our artists. There's so many people, there's
Speaker 1: so many places that you go after so many years,
Speaker 1: they say, after you have ten years in this game,
Speaker 1: you're over. You actually had you're going on, Like, damn
Speaker 1: there thirty years in this game. Over thirty years, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I would say, like, honestly, I
Speaker 1: would say when I was in my grandfather's basement and
Speaker 1: were spinning to be rail like that, you know, like
Speaker 1: your grandfather was racist too. Grand my grandmother works. Your
Speaker 1: grandmother wants was Puerto Rican? Okay, yeah, look like Puerto Ricans, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had a darker skins. You a little light skin too.
Speaker 1: You should get over for Becans of Africans representative. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: what you just said were like the Puerto Ricans of Africans.
Speaker 1: That with the Puerto Ricans. Yeah, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do like man. We gotta do one for Zeno. Let's
Speaker 1: not drinking time one and one strip. This is what
Speaker 1: the street stripes. I never seen you in a pair like.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. You're a real Bosston dude.
Speaker 1: I've never seen you in a pair of anything other
Speaker 1: than give us shot. It feels like shot god damnit.
Speaker 1: Yeah didas here. I ain't gonna lie. You got the
Speaker 1: Prince and ones on today. I respect those, but I've
Speaker 1: never seen you in lights. Come on ever, so I
Speaker 1: need one? I need one? Yeah, yeah, give one, give
Speaker 1: up anyone? Okay, leave, you're gonna take one with us?
Speaker 1: Come on, it's like with us. Leave. I gotta drink this.
Speaker 1: Le starts speaking English perfectly after take spoil the spoil
Speaker 1: tyger bone. Yeah, a little we celebrate your career. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're being up to Okay, this is gonna be just
Speaker 1: brands where just going all right? So you're from Overlacka,
Speaker 1: you know what where we're at kat Cheers Tree Lanka.
Speaker 1: Huh look that's bing bones love it hip hop Miami. Goddamn,
Speaker 1: let's him me late, hit me late, hit me late.
Speaker 1: You know what? Wh when did you come up with
Speaker 1: the tyger bone ship? I don't know. We've been drinking
Speaker 1: that forever too, Like you the only nigger on earth
Speaker 1: that they didn't put me onto it. We was all
Speaker 1: drinking at the same time. Side speed Jada kiss yeah,
Speaker 1: Jada kiss yeah yeah, and have the tiger you're back
Speaker 1: in the days. They should come with a tiger's bone
Speaker 1: in it. It's to be an actual bone. I see,
Speaker 1: I see some green but see green tiger bone. It's
Speaker 1: called Nike Weill. You know it's good for your yang,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, like it's like a natural viators
Speaker 1: were drinking around. You're not gonna walk around knocking it down.
Speaker 1: But if you if you show up to the game,
Speaker 1: you're ready. You read it. You I ain't got nothing
Speaker 1: to say, ain't no bla So so you start getting serious.
Speaker 1: Open smoke, bro, I got you Oprah every month. You
Speaker 1: know what was gonna cover of Oprah's magazine every month,
Speaker 1: Oprah Oprah. So why you didn't if you knew, if
Speaker 1: you knew that these guys were making a mutiny against you,
Speaker 1: these guys were saying that, why you didn't just go
Speaker 1: all out and put yourself on the because because I did?
Speaker 1: You did. I did that cover with was Shug kiss
Speaker 1: Nas and me and it made the American flag. It
Speaker 1: was a but I just again, I did that because
Speaker 1: it's like, you don't want to go by yourself. No,
Speaker 1: but no exactly, but niked with a motherfucking rainbow. Make
Speaker 1: excuses up. Like I always again, I always felt like
Speaker 1: my music never guy to just do. I always felt
Speaker 1: like because it's like, oh, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: like this, it's the source is the gift and the
Speaker 1: curse for me. You know what I'm saying, Because really
Speaker 1: I always wanted to do music like I wasn't a magazine.
Speaker 1: I always knew that about you ever since I've met you.
Speaker 1: I know that your music, music is your passion is
Speaker 1: That's that's what I love. Your path, that's what I love.
Speaker 1: That's what I started doing, like, but it always that's
Speaker 1: what I would do over. I'd be like I stayed
Speaker 1: the funk away. I wouldn't know it made the source
Speaker 1: and the staff and the college kids and all that ship,
Speaker 1: and I'll just stay stead the streets of my music
Speaker 1: because to be honest with you, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: that's where I'm more comfortable anyways. Now, now the great
Speaker 1: thing is I did learn business. I didn't learn how
Speaker 1: to be business oriented. And I got to sit in
Speaker 1: something and you guys impacted the culture heavily. That was dope.
Speaker 1: But look at me ship like that. I don't even
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I swear to God like you're a
Speaker 1: legend year that ship. Listen. I'm happy that I could still,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, still be kind of relevant,
Speaker 1: still make music still, you know, be you know, a
Speaker 1: part of hip hop, you know what, cause I don't
Speaker 1: want to leave it. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: still want to be a part of hip hop. So
Speaker 1: when I go places, whether it's through love and hip
Speaker 1: hop ship, I mean, people know me from the source. Um, Auntie,
Speaker 1: that's about forty fifty and all the way down to
Speaker 1: you know, eleven twelve year old like her daughter and
Speaker 1: everybody in between now from loving hip hip hop like
Speaker 1: the gangster. I'll be sure. No, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be there. I mean, did you say something else? I
Speaker 1: want to be that, But I was saying I was
Speaker 1: shooting there. Got to be a better. He's got to
Speaker 1: realize your light skin. We try to act dark skin
Speaker 1: for you trying to do you got you gotta relax
Speaker 1: this lit be like the gangster like that's why you
Speaker 1: put the dead drops like it's different. I don't want
Speaker 1: to listen. Listen. I'll never even consider myself light skin.
Speaker 1: I didn't see all that ship. I've never seen the
Speaker 1: light skin. But I've never seen that ship like light skin.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like any time I went
Speaker 1: to school, it was black white other because I got
Speaker 1: my friend. For years, I've been seeing like you've been
Speaker 1: acting Bobby Brown brown, and I just always wanted to
Speaker 1: tell you, nig I never was like ever. That's why
Speaker 1: you can say that. I'd be like, man, I don't
Speaker 1: act like that. You're seeing act like I don't act
Speaker 1: like that. Oh my god, So I um suck ft
Speaker 1: sunny spot that so oh ship, oh, ship get five
Speaker 1: mis was he the first one to get five mics outcast?
Speaker 1: The first? The verse five Mike's had to be before that. Um,
Speaker 1: I believe the outcast first. A good question. It's a
Speaker 1: good question. Yeah, that's a good question. So he normy
Speaker 1: thought that, you know, he thought that I was the
Speaker 1: one given mix. He never liked me, I would see
Speaker 1: nor I didn't like to see. He never really was
Speaker 1: up expect with what time we see, we see you
Speaker 1: talking about the show. They'd be a little short head
Speaker 1: bob like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: He told me he was like I thought he was
Speaker 1: the one to give him. I was like no fun.
Speaker 1: There was the bad articles like like like like, um,
Speaker 1: I used to always think that because that's what people
Speaker 1: told me. It was like like like those years that
Speaker 1: you named where you felt like it was in all
Speaker 1: be all see people didn't know that. People thought that.
Speaker 1: Once he was involved with the source, it was everything
Speaker 1: was you you know what I'm saying. So every time
Speaker 1: I ever got a bad review, absolutely was. I would
Speaker 1: read it and people like that MAGAZINEO what he got
Speaker 1: against me and the crazy ship. I never actually went
Speaker 1: down and actually wrote to see that there was somebody
Speaker 1: who put their name to the actual article. I never
Speaker 1: paid that till I got older, and I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: that might not be After all, I had my old
Speaker 1: I had, I had like I love hip hop, and
Speaker 1: of course I had people, you know, like I was
Speaker 1: a fan of Sartain artist, fan of a of a lot,
Speaker 1: but um, I just never was the one to be
Speaker 1: reading about motherfucker's And you started to beat between trialal
Speaker 1: quest and tupop, I started to beatould get so you
Speaker 1: just said the source awards was all you that that
Speaker 1: that's crazy because the people would if he thought like that,
Speaker 1: how many other start like No, I definitely thought that.
Speaker 1: I definitely said he thought I'm guilty? Who PRIs yo?
Speaker 1: He said, Yo? Nobody was because because man I thought
Speaker 1: you was, I was like, no nigger because because they
Speaker 1: thought they should have got a five, I thought they
Speaker 1: should have got a five? Who the fujila they should
Speaker 1: have got a five? I ain't I should have got
Speaker 1: a four and a half. I got a four for
Speaker 1: any nor I take a personal four. Four. You got
Speaker 1: two fous. I'm your two fous, But I know SIOK.
Speaker 1: The shock paid you off and ships. To be honest,
Speaker 1: he was motherfucker. So yeah, so we can't give silk
Speaker 1: shocking them blow ratings. They buy and s like twelve ads.
Speaker 1: Look at we did like twelve ads, So so okay,
Speaker 1: we'll give you twelve for twenty piece. Like come on.
Speaker 1: Pete was like, would you've seen him? You would? It
Speaker 1: would be a partner source where it would just be
Speaker 1: all that, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, who
Speaker 1: the fund does that? Shout to master people. He sat
Speaker 1: in that same chip you're sitting that right now. We
Speaker 1: gotta shout out title check us at title dot com,
Speaker 1: Forward slast dream Champ, shout to massive Peal revolt, Yes,
Speaker 1: got to check us out. This mine's gonna be on
Speaker 1: TV because I never get on TV. Well this we
Speaker 1: don't know what it was because I noticed that mine's
Speaker 1: never get on TV. Is this one't gonna be on TV?
Speaker 1: Or I'm gonna be like back in the room again,
Speaker 1: like we are you talking about? Saying? Man? I like
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, damn, I did one of the
Speaker 1: first ones. It was pretty dope. And then he gets
Speaker 1: then he gets the revote joint right and I'm looking
Speaker 1: at all the revote ones and I'm like and then
Speaker 1: I'm seeing all the you know what I'm saying, all
Speaker 1: the ads and everything. I'm like, this, ain't this a
Speaker 1: well we stepped it up? Saying this the fucking we
Speaker 1: don't get you know what you're saying, Just like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, is this one getting on? You know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, what's the excuse we don't get paid off
Speaker 1: that as? We definitely don't get. But is this one
Speaker 1: getting on revote? This one? This one is going to
Speaker 1: be on? Yes, we have we have a different you
Speaker 1: watch title Internet. Yeah I haven't done that yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm still TV now will be on YouTube? Reard to
Speaker 1: YouTube and I know it's on YouTube, but you want
Speaker 1: to be on there? But what about TV? It's not
Speaker 1: gonna be hip hop level? It's not hip it's not
Speaker 1: you think? Did you don't want me on revote? Not
Speaker 1: to do it? That I can you can do? Say
Speaker 1: that means whole Coo signs you brother. So so at
Speaker 1: one point, Height lives the game. Everybody you gotta go
Speaker 1: through bus you. Zeno also has a love life. He's
Speaker 1: knocking a lot of these girls down. It's crazy, man,
Speaker 1: I mean you know, those are some good years. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. Those are some great years, phenomenal. I mean,
Speaker 1: those are some good years, you know. But you know
Speaker 1: I don't kiss and tell, yeah, because you know why,
Speaker 1: because there's somebody on the other end of that that
Speaker 1: you gotta respect, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: they might not want beyond blast like that. I mean me,
Speaker 1: I'd love to sit here and tell you intricate details
Speaker 1: and all that ship, you know what I'm saying, But
Speaker 1: you gotta respect people one the other end, on the
Speaker 1: other side who ain't here to speak up for them.
Speaker 1: So I don't kiss and tell. But you know, those
Speaker 1: are phenomenal years. We could say that, But did you
Speaker 1: give away mikes or some pussy? I mean, you don't
Speaker 1: gotta answer that. You ain't got a lot of got
Speaker 1: a lot of technts. You look like you're sitting there ready,
Speaker 1: it ain't it ain't nothing wrong with that, Like if
Speaker 1: that's what it was back then, Like listen, right, match
Speaker 1: your question. Right, So if you won the magazine, and
Speaker 1: if this female artists out there, and if you you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, have a situation where you and
Speaker 1: the female artist is talking, and you'll have a relationship
Speaker 1: and everything, and then she has an album coming out.
Speaker 1: What would you do? Sound? This is sound a little
Speaker 1: hobby Wine stage. Where are you going? No, I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I would listen to her album.
Speaker 1: What would you do? Pass it off to the journalist,
Speaker 1: to y'all mad y'all gotta say some ship, but you
Speaker 1: gotta live. What would y'all do? Yeah? Tell you made
Speaker 1: a whole new mic system. I know you a trick.
Speaker 1: I see him have no money around. What did happens?
Speaker 1: You get your snicker? Just tell my show? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you got to use your influence sometimes the ways
Speaker 1: that's just how stuff happens. It's never a Harvey watch
Speaker 1: the situation because you know what I'm saying. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying that still too. You carry yourself a certain way,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The intrigue is on is
Speaker 1: in their mind and their hearts also, so you never
Speaker 1: had to Bill Cosby. Now come on, oh man, like
Speaker 1: I would never do no ship like that. I don't
Speaker 1: you know. My thing is if I can't, if she
Speaker 1: don't want me, I don't you know you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? If she don't want me. Then that takes
Speaker 1: out you know a lot, like you want like part
Speaker 1: of you wanting her is her want you? That was hard?
Speaker 1: It was hard. That was that's the name of your book?
Speaker 1: What like? She looked good saying that that was all
Speaker 1: That was a ball. That was a ball. So um.
Speaker 1: But you had a lot of fun. Did you have
Speaker 1: a lot of fun? You had a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: You had j album. Yes, I have a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: I was the fun would you have? I was a horror?
Speaker 1: That was a horror. Yes, that was a whore. I
Speaker 1: was next, but I ran across the same. But I
Speaker 1: started to realize I was easy. So then I started
Speaker 1: to realize I can't be easy out here on these holes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was easy that I talked to the ship. I
Speaker 1: was drinking. Yeah. At nineteen, I realized I was a joke.
Speaker 1: Bof I was like, it was just leasy. I said,
Speaker 1: hold up, I'm gonna think about it. I'm gonna about it.
Speaker 1: You wanted a threesome. They to training. Think about the
Speaker 1: two girls the tricks train zone training. But it's two bitches.
Speaker 1: But what was happening? This is about you today. Ask
Speaker 1: you a question, have you have you ever data celebrity,
Speaker 1: uh not dated smashed the celebrity. I think that's what
Speaker 1: you really meant. I was trying. I was trying. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: imagine your question. Did you fall in love with him? No,
Speaker 1: you didn't fall in up? Have you ever fall in
Speaker 1: up with with a celebrity? No, there wasn't a celebrity
Speaker 1: or not what I was dealing with. It was pre
Speaker 1: celebrity celebrity. Yeah, I knocked a couple of down. If
Speaker 1: that's what you're trying to get that I knocked a
Speaker 1: couple of them down. I ain't knocked down and give
Speaker 1: ads or like you know, because yeah, no, no, I
Speaker 1: mean listen listen to mean that. I mean it's not
Speaker 1: like you know, but I would have if I would
Speaker 1: have had listening, I would have put myself in a
Speaker 1: couple of the magazine every two months? Is the piston
Speaker 1: niggers off? No, I'm saying, if you got the magazine
Speaker 1: and the Source Awards and like, there's a certain celebrity
Speaker 1: you're liking, and somehow, some ways she's interested in hosting
Speaker 1: it because you can sliding the d in, but you
Speaker 1: was sliding in the idea. Is it fair to said
Speaker 1: everybody here has a celebrity that like a celebrity crush.
Speaker 1: All right, So if you had the opportunity and like
Speaker 1: to let her host the Social Awards, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, would you do that? That's the Social Wards now, Okay?
Speaker 1: Lisa Ray hosted the Sound Lab, Little Kim hosted the
Speaker 1: Social Wards. Right, No Kim host Social She gave out
Speaker 1: a water something. She was a part of everything. No,
Speaker 1: I'm She's gonna be on here soon. That'll be dope.
Speaker 1: And Foxy Brown too as well. That'll be dope. That'll BEP,
Speaker 1: That'll be dope. Definitely. I'm gonna watch those. Yeah, definitely, man, definitely.
Speaker 1: So where's your favorite? Bevot? But I bet you y'all laughing.
Speaker 1: Watch watch y'all can see that. As for a little
Speaker 1: kid things, y'all gonna laugh. Y'all't be sitting there watch
Speaker 1: the TV with your girls. She to be sitting in
Speaker 1: the argo. Come up, you're like that crazy, So you
Speaker 1: know you can't get me three months of title. So
Speaker 1: what's the favorite what's your favorite part of the game?
Speaker 1: The music studio niggas, you know what I'm saying. Smoking,
Speaker 1: everybody like positive, happy, having a good time, like all
Speaker 1: on one page like this, this is the most dopest part.
Speaker 1: That's why I come in for this because niggas don't
Speaker 1: do this, like you know what I'm saying, Like you
Speaker 1: like like you actually take your niggas and make them
Speaker 1: a part of it and that's the fun of it.
Speaker 1: Like that's that's that's that's that's what I love about
Speaker 1: hip hop and the game, like like the fun saying
Speaker 1: the money makes you crazy? You ever? You ever m
Speaker 1: because we all go through this, but you ever like
Speaker 1: you know when you miss understood, like like how do
Speaker 1: you go about that? Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because like I remember when you first um started using
Speaker 1: the internet, you would actually try to meet people like
Speaker 1: somebody say something and I just want to stay away
Speaker 1: from my fucker's I felt like again I was I
Speaker 1: felt like again all these years of going through the
Speaker 1: ship with the industry. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: just you know what I'm saying, Like I go get
Speaker 1: with the streets, you know, Like once I get with
Speaker 1: niggas in the streets, they don't judge me. The streets
Speaker 1: don't judge. That's what I'm saying about the streets, like
Speaker 1: wherever the fund you're going through, you can go to
Speaker 1: that block and no one's not gonna say nothing, even
Speaker 1: if you tell them about a lost seven million dollars
Speaker 1: my home kid, and motherfucker's just like you're passing me
Speaker 1: things for display, some second smoke, some weird motherfucker's don't
Speaker 1: care about that. And that's why I like that to me,
Speaker 1: is like you need that in life, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You need that because you know, you know,
Speaker 1: because you see me money, losing money, losing source losing. Look,
Speaker 1: I had games, you have losses. You have games, But
Speaker 1: why I come from ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I feel like, what the funk? This ain't that bad anyways,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So when you go back there,
Speaker 1: you just once you always go back then want you
Speaker 1: because I stay in the hood wherever I live, wherever
Speaker 1: I go, I stay with hood niggas. I just want
Speaker 1: to be in the hood with hood niggas because that's
Speaker 1: what the most most comfortable. But that's because you don't
Speaker 1: if you take these losses, you don't. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: what is anybody gonna think? What is it? Like? I
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed you know, I had a good run, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So you know, you up, you down,
Speaker 1: you hustle, you know what I'm saying. You know that
Speaker 1: we talked about it. So let's so let's address the
Speaker 1: elephant in the room. What is you and Dave May's
Speaker 1: relationship standing at this very moment? Where's the elephant that
Speaker 1: you know imaginary? Um? I mean, you know me and Dave,
Speaker 1: Me and Dave was together since seven. Dave's the god
Speaker 1: well the supposed godfather of Coy. Dave knew me when
Speaker 1: I had no kids, I mean, Dave, the federal indictments, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, all the fun asks, all the problems, the beefs,
Speaker 1: the guns, the shootings that there's that the day has
Speaker 1: been a part of my life almost every day of
Speaker 1: my life. Four or five different cities we don't lived in.
Speaker 1: I mean, so it was over twenty some years. So
Speaker 1: it was just and we went through a lot together.
Speaker 1: It was just the time that Dave do him and
Speaker 1: me do me, you know what I'm saying, and just
Speaker 1: give each other, give each other break, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because again, we were together a lot, and
Speaker 1: you know, was it hip hop weekly? Because like, um,
Speaker 1: you guys, you know after the Hip Hop Weekly was
Speaker 1: just because you know, like once once we lost the Source,
Speaker 1: I just had an idea for like Dave still want
Speaker 1: to really be in the magazine game. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Not so much people you don't understand. You know,
Speaker 1: the source was lost if they heard the story, but
Speaker 1: a bad investment with the internet in the early nineties
Speaker 1: with Source dot com and it crashed and you know,
Speaker 1: took out a massive bank. Yeah, crashed because all the
Speaker 1: early cala the whole thing. But the idea, they were
Speaker 1: just before their time, all right, So you know you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like we just put the magazine
Speaker 1: out and had an idea. But at that point it
Speaker 1: was just like magazines was falling anyways, Vibe fell, Excel,
Speaker 1: every all the magazines was following Print wasn't you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Everything is on the phone now. So
Speaker 1: you know, we did Hip Hop Weekly, paid the bills
Speaker 1: or whatever, but it wasn't It was just like a
Speaker 1: quick patch up. You know, I could say this about Dave.
Speaker 1: When we lost the Source, Dave a piece of that
Speaker 1: piece of Dave went with it, Like you know, I
Speaker 1: could I could I could see that that hit Dave
Speaker 1: way harder than it hit me, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So that I feel for Dave for that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you can't take away anything now,
Speaker 1: I know when people go their separate ways. Dave's gonna
Speaker 1: want to do his side of the story, right, and
Speaker 1: I got my side of the story. You know, it's
Speaker 1: unfortunate that we could. We couldn't tell listen to staffords
Speaker 1: who want to Everybody wants the Source story. Everybody, everybody,
Speaker 1: everybody wants to do the Source story. And it's gonna come.
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be like from what I say, it's
Speaker 1: gonna it's like how like the Tupacs. It's like a
Speaker 1: hundred different Tupacs. That's what's gonna happen with the Source.
Speaker 1: And I feel like this. I feel like without me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. There's no story without without me,
Speaker 1: without me, without me, It's it's just it's just um.
Speaker 1: So you're saying that there's a story being made right
Speaker 1: now or a film or something. No, I mean, everybody's
Speaker 1: trying to make their own. Everybody's trying to make their own,
Speaker 1: you know, everyone eventually wants to put out the Source story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it absolutely can't be without you, But they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to tell it. You know, Dave has his side and
Speaker 1: show that the couple of the editors have their side perspectives.
Speaker 1: I mean, that never happens. A lot of things should happen,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. What I'm saying, but but
Speaker 1: the reality is that's not gonna happen. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell my side, you know, you know, I gotta. And
Speaker 1: it's not just the Source, Like my life story has
Speaker 1: a lot more chapter because after the Source, I went on,
Speaker 1: after hip Hop Weekly, I'm still moving this different things
Speaker 1: and before the Source there was a lot so um,
Speaker 1: you know, but the Source was because that was a
Speaker 1: big part of the culture. Those eighteen years we had.
Speaker 1: It was an amazing eighteen years because it was ups
Speaker 1: and years years. We got a long time. You think,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, and we got good, we got we gotta
Speaker 1: remind people this is pre internet. The Source was the
Speaker 1: lifeline for hip hop. Source was amazing. I can see
Speaker 1: a big piece of magazine like that with the writing
Speaker 1: and everything. I mean, there was some amazing pieces in there,
Speaker 1: and that's why I don't want people to think of college. No, no, No,
Speaker 1: they did some amazing stuff. I just think that there's
Speaker 1: a split between the streets in college that kind of
Speaker 1: hip hop had a lot to do with. It was
Speaker 1: a split, and I just felt like, you know, I
Speaker 1: tell the story again all the time, you know, like
Speaker 1: a little brother. They gave them four and a half
Speaker 1: and then they gave Jesus First album three, and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: how how could you give them three? Because they didn't
Speaker 1: understand trap music. They don't understand the streets. So it's
Speaker 1: not fair for people to rate something that you don't
Speaker 1: understand it. And that's just what I always felt like,
Speaker 1: that's you know what I'm saying. You know, so I
Speaker 1: probably deserved five because the college niggas I knew, I
Speaker 1: just couldn't hind pointed. Now, So, um, you got got
Speaker 1: the sauce. You moved to Miami, Miami, start, you started
Speaker 1: hip hop weekly, then all of a sudden, pack your bags,
Speaker 1: you moved to Atlanta, which is um not abnormal for
Speaker 1: people in our industry. But what was abnormal was for
Speaker 1: us to see Miss you know who we looked at
Speaker 1: as street guy, gangster to go on a reality television show,
Speaker 1: but not only going to get you got the other lighter?
Speaker 1: Come on, you ain't come my lighters over here? All right,
Speaker 1: let's do it. So come on, actually got the other
Speaker 1: one right there and watching watching on your light of thieves,
Speaker 1: my nigger, I'm on point, thank you. So um so,
Speaker 1: what makes you even not only get into a reality show?
Speaker 1: I mean I know, but okay recently, but you actually
Speaker 1: it looked like from where the peers from the outside
Speaker 1: of looking in, um, it appeared. Look, he was actually
Speaker 1: looking for love like when you first joined. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think you know, I was, I was single,
Speaker 1: so you know what I'm you know, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: getting up there in age, so yeah, you know, definitely
Speaker 1: looking for someone that I can rock out. I think
Speaker 1: like having the right partner, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: especially now in this industry, I think you could do
Speaker 1: amazing things, you know what I'm saying. And I felt
Speaker 1: like being on TV who slipped in the tangle. Let's
Speaker 1: be ready? You know he was ready? Yeah? All right,
Speaker 1: come on, are we ready? Baby? Saw a little another
Speaker 1: one another one at another one right there right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: part of the show. We're putting this Zeno feature in
Speaker 1: the y'all slow solo. I hate It, love it Okay,
Speaker 1: Now I got that. Um were talking about gotta do
Speaker 1: it my left hand. So so the hip hop yea
Speaker 1: love and hip hop? He was looking he was looking
Speaker 1: for love or was that for cameras? I mean you no,
Speaker 1: I was. I was actually like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I felt like, first I didn't go on, they're looking
Speaker 1: for like I went on and just giving Stevie advice.
Speaker 1: They heard me talk. I was driving Stevie to the set.
Speaker 1: He had his mike mike on on. They were still listening.
Speaker 1: He came. We smoking weed in the car between his takes,
Speaker 1: and he was at that time he was like he
Speaker 1: was caught between the two. And I'm like, say it
Speaker 1: with me. I could be a monoga come from Like,
Speaker 1: so that's so, so you started and then so your
Speaker 1: first love interest was Carlie rad got your question. I
Speaker 1: mean this was on the show. I was like your questions. No,
Speaker 1: but you wanted to be talking about loving hip hop.
Speaker 1: Drink of course. Man. Yeah, I'm the biggest love of
Speaker 1: hip hop fan. I'm gonna be honest. We had our
Speaker 1: whole episode. That's just the new Jerry Springer. You know,
Speaker 1: I stopped watching Jerry Springer because I watched Love of
Speaker 1: Hip Hop Let's go, and I'll be watching Jerry Springer
Speaker 1: for eighteen years. How about that? You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying to the spot ahead. So um, yeah, so that
Speaker 1: was your first love interest right now? That was not
Speaker 1: for the camera like that was like, well we started
Speaker 1: dating before I got on Love and Hip Hop. I
Speaker 1: was again bringing Stevie to the mean Stevie staying together uplana,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, bringing them to the set
Speaker 1: because Carlie was cool with Johnson at the time. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just met her off set and she
Speaker 1: was like, you know, we was hoppling and then we
Speaker 1: hooked up and then and then know next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: I get a call like what if your day? And
Speaker 1: Momona had called on like if your day in somebody
Speaker 1: from the you know, you should come on. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's how that's how, that's how it happened. And
Speaker 1: then I felt like I felt like, I'm on TV.
Speaker 1: She's cool. Why not? I felt like maybe she's at
Speaker 1: the age where she didn't want to bullshit no more.
Speaker 1: Because I'm at the age whe I don't want to bullshit.
Speaker 1: I feel see, I feel like if I feel like,
Speaker 1: it's not like, you know, you have to find that
Speaker 1: special person. But I'm so grounded and I know what
Speaker 1: I want and what I don't want now is that
Speaker 1: I feel like, if you know, I could get with
Speaker 1: a person, if they just have a good heart and everything,
Speaker 1: it's not too like I can get along with anybody
Speaker 1: at this point in my life. At that point, I
Speaker 1: was ready. You know what I'm saying. She wasn't ready.
Speaker 1: So what made you not because she wasn't ready? You no, No,
Speaker 1: you didn't give her a ring? Yeah, because she cheated?
Speaker 1: Oh on an episode in real life too, but I
Speaker 1: was very real. Hold on, hold on, she didn't set
Speaker 1: on the show though in real life she cheated. Oh,
Speaker 1: but you didn't say that on the show, because on
Speaker 1: the show you just closed. Well. I just remember. I
Speaker 1: just remember it, like I remember you was staying together.
Speaker 1: She coming in mad early. I'm like, listen, you just
Speaker 1: can't be coming in mad early. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you think just for TV, but I'm just not gonna
Speaker 1: keep going with this, you know what I'm saying. In
Speaker 1: real life, coming in early, like like five and five,
Speaker 1: six in the morning. Then after that there was some
Speaker 1: ship on the blogs that she was sucking niggers. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, I like when I wasn't. I
Speaker 1: wasn't devastated though, so so I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: I just I just was like, okay, hold up, hold up,
Speaker 1: since you're not ready, then I just want to break
Speaker 1: this off. It wasn't no disrespect against her. I just
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to look like no fool
Speaker 1: if we're not on the same page, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so that's when I was I told
Speaker 1: the producers, I'm not doing the ring thing. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I probably was gonna get engaged to
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and try to try to
Speaker 1: do something with her. Have our own show, do our
Speaker 1: own know what I'm saying. We're on TV. Let's you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's like people want to see love.
Speaker 1: You know why I love and hip hop is probably popular,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because people are going through
Speaker 1: these things. Man, you know what I'm saying. When and
Speaker 1: when I came on, I didn't mess with two women
Speaker 1: at a time on love and hip hop ever ever, Okay,
Speaker 1: so women looked at that, and you know, because I
Speaker 1: didn't want I wasn't gonna do that, Like I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna go on and date two different chicks on it
Speaker 1: was a little bit of a little bit of bandy
Speaker 1: at one point. No, it was Callie. Carlie was out
Speaker 1: of the picture. Me and baby started days. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was gone after No there no, no, there isn't
Speaker 1: there isn't there no, there isn't. But I love it
Speaker 1: hip hop. See but I love it hip hop. They'll
Speaker 1: set it up now to where you're chilling at dinner. Yeah, baby,
Speaker 1: the here she comes. No, like, I'm just not with that.
Speaker 1: I love you that, I don't you know me, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not with that all day. Right, I'm not with
Speaker 1: the face out here knocking too chicks down. No, but
Speaker 1: look at look at no No, no, I gota front.
Speaker 1: We are entering a different zone right now where a
Speaker 1: lot of ships being tolerated. I just I just I
Speaker 1: just know me. I don't mean where I'm at now.
Speaker 1: I only have them for one Yeah, I can't, I can't, okay, right,
Speaker 1: all right, right, all right, right, right right, there's nothing
Speaker 1: at all. Wait what did she say? I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: the main one? And then woman right, woman, right right,
Speaker 1: tell me I'm a woman, our bird down, but you
Speaker 1: still want some side playing. No, I think you're talking
Speaker 1: about female all right, right, damn, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: still much to enjoy your fucking hip you know, still
Speaker 1: like yeah, so you're gonna let him get That's what
Speaker 1: my authority as your woman. You don't make you fun? Right,
Speaker 1: that's oh right right right now, kidding she got got
Speaker 1: sunny whisper something like, just got real he crilly never
Speaker 1: that's dope. So I just don't me. I don't have
Speaker 1: look here, look I don't I never was a nigger
Speaker 1: while I wanted chicks fighting on me. In real life,
Speaker 1: I'm just a real low key nigger, like I've messed
Speaker 1: with a lot of celebrities. The reason why people don't
Speaker 1: know because I was a low key nigga. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like so on on on on love
Speaker 1: and hip hop. I'm not gonna put myself in positions
Speaker 1: to be getting popped upside the head and who you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm not I'm not all right,
Speaker 1: we got an accident. I don't want that. Yeah that
Speaker 1: I got you. That was real, man, baby, because drinking.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm drinking. Brother, I'm not drinking. I'm ready
Speaker 1: for another shot to you. Ready, three dreams, lucky number
Speaker 1: that we can split that up. Let's lose. Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, you might just stick chams. Don't be having
Speaker 1: like mad tiger bone. Yeah my crib. I don't like
Speaker 1: to bring it. Yeah, yes, split with your girl, split
Speaker 1: with checker out, yes, spit, split it half and half
Speaker 1: with girt. Okay, yeah, a woman? Sorry? So what's your
Speaker 1: name again? From New York? Okay, my name is Anika Na.
Speaker 1: That's like Nicki Mina's real name too, right now from
Speaker 1: Hustling So okay, okay, all right, I'm an artist, artist,
Speaker 1: and I'm already gonna feel bulls because I already seen
Speaker 1: in a future. So that being sad, yea, it's a
Speaker 1: good day. All right, let me get some I'll take
Speaker 1: a shot with y'all with man, motherfucking long time. No
Speaker 1: other one. You don't you know? You know the other one?
Speaker 1: The other one? Yeah, yes, yeah, the other one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there we go. There. It's a Colombian white. Yeah, bad,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling the saucy right now. I'm gonna lie as
Speaker 1: you should. Yeah, I'm doing this shot with y'all. Y'all smoke. No,
Speaker 1: he just harry on the weekend. On the weekend, I
Speaker 1: got no tracks though, Salo, Salo, where's yours? You took it?
Speaker 1: You took it already, it's Done's gonna make talkable. Let's
Speaker 1: take a shout and do say that other There you go, girl,
Speaker 1: that's a riding right there. Actually gonna let you smash
Speaker 1: other people. God, damn man good rible solid. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, well manahay, I'm not I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: You know this is stove yea. And even though it's
Speaker 1: a third time, right because the second time, the third
Speaker 1: time we went to the fourth time, I was h
Speaker 1: for the for the baby niggas, damn you broke yep. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're drink champel. You gotta get your chain next time.
Speaker 1: The documentary already said, give me a chain. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be the Dominican chain like this gonna be like I
Speaker 1: just want to get out the vote one time. Come on,
Speaker 1: you don't want Yeah, pick up the cool in the
Speaker 1: building as well. Google yeah, I mean that's my come on,
Speaker 1: my boy, my Boston family nugs without nugs, he drink
Speaker 1: cancer dugs should have a T shirt going ten years strong?
Speaker 1: Wait what do you say? Inside? So alright? So not
Speaker 1: I loving hip hop? Now you become adapted because TV
Speaker 1: famous different from you know, the magazine World World telling you, man,
Speaker 1: it is nothing to me. I'll just be like I
Speaker 1: like to smoke weed, I like to talk. Said, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't even that ship is. I don't. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I don't be seeing it. It's cool when people know you.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a pain of ask I'm saying, But it's
Speaker 1: love always, So I don't look at it. Man, telling
Speaker 1: you I'd be I'd be always thinking the next way
Speaker 1: to get the next bag. I always got things to
Speaker 1: him do I got bills, court payments, child support? You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean that celebrities ship is, um,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a mirage. That's a fucking mirage.
Speaker 1: You know, that's like it's not there. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, it's cool if you want to feel special,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because people think it's special.
Speaker 1: But if they already think you special? Then why you
Speaker 1: gotta feel special? Why don't you just be cool and
Speaker 1: just be the way you are. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be like a because when you look at the real
Speaker 1: type of celebrities, like the attitudes fund up. I don't
Speaker 1: want to put the poxide in. He didn't do this
Speaker 1: to nas. Now you're shout out to nas man, but
Speaker 1: damn left right, just what it's real. It's real. Like
Speaker 1: you know, I know for years, bro, you have you
Speaker 1: had the dump paste on too when you first sposed
Speaker 1: to the bench and he was like, yeah, I said,
Speaker 1: thinking like Derek zu Land and I called you too,
Speaker 1: and that's how I knew I could talk you out
Speaker 1: of it. He was like, you see, I'm killing him.
Speaker 1: I about to say he did kill He said, you see,
Speaker 1: I'm killing him, young swag. I say, see, I can't
Speaker 1: out of it. Look, I just reworded. I forgot, I
Speaker 1: forget who I seen I was. I've seen somebody. I
Speaker 1: was like, Yeah'm gonna try to hmm. It had to
Speaker 1: be like Chris Brown. Caye think it might have been
Speaker 1: Chris Brown told you you tell kinetically. I think it was, yeah, tellically, tellically.
Speaker 1: Chris Brown shout of Chris Brown, man, Chris Brown, greed
Speaker 1: and everything, and then nigger changes next day. It hurt me.
Speaker 1: Hurt me, It hurt me. Chris row it up. But okay,
Speaker 1: so now you you're going through this transition and you
Speaker 1: isn't the time we had to choose? Like you can't
Speaker 1: say something? When you start talking like that, that's when
Speaker 1: you're like, you're serious CNN Mari Shaffer like like when
Speaker 1: you just did that, I know as you do that,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, time gets seriously, Yeah, I got your
Speaker 1: back like that. So so because because you know, the
Speaker 1: thing is it's a facade, like you know, the love
Speaker 1: of hip hop crowd like that's that's that's a six
Speaker 1: seven million people watching per week. Correct my numbers off,
Speaker 1: you're absolutely correct. So so you're going from that where
Speaker 1: you're basically behind the scenes in the sauce partner, still
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, going from behind the scenes going straight
Speaker 1: to the front line. How was the difference from that?
Speaker 1: And then how did you do? What about? What about?
Speaker 1: I had a couple of hit records. He's talking about
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, even the music, it's music I don't know,
Speaker 1: but even the music, even the TV fame is different
Speaker 1: from music fame. You can't compare video or hit record
Speaker 1: to love and hip hop fame was big. That's the
Speaker 1: biggest that the TV fame was. I didn't even expect
Speaker 1: that's going seven million every day, I think seven millions
Speaker 1: to this day. To this day, I can't go no
Speaker 1: hood nowhere, like everybody's auntie trying to holler at me,
Speaker 1: trying to take you down. Everybody's auntie. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I love it wherever I go to his
Speaker 1: auntie's all over America. What I'm saying America dot Com.
Speaker 1: I'm talking older women sixties and seventies and Walmart would
Speaker 1: be like, I love you with Walker, you know how
Speaker 1: like you know what the oldest lady ever took thet
Speaker 1: keep it real, keeping the oldest lady you ever took down?
Speaker 1: You like you took down a seventy nine year old
Speaker 1: nothing night year old. My god, I'm gonna keep it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it one. What's the oldest I like
Speaker 1: younger women, okay, but what's the oldest you had an
Speaker 1: old night? Um? Everyone had an old night? Maybe forty something,
Speaker 1: forty Come on, I'm telling disappointment have you have you
Speaker 1: have you you? You have scraped the sixty ye old.
Speaker 1: I had a big night. I have an old night.
Speaker 1: I had a big night. I had a big night
Speaker 1: one night, six biggest size a biggert age. Had to
Speaker 1: take one for the team, had to take one team
Speaker 1: didn't know but you're forty. How old were you when?
Speaker 1: When it was forty? Probably was like, like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I've been old a long time, been a while, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Like I just don't you know, there's
Speaker 1: nothing like you know what I'm saying. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't. There's some beautiful the women out there,
Speaker 1: some Cruger's Cruger's out there, A cougar. I just I
Speaker 1: just you prefer um, younger woman. What is the male
Speaker 1: version of Kruger? The male version of cougar? Um? I
Speaker 1: guess I'm the black panther. That's definitely not any cause
Speaker 1: Daddy Sugar Daddy should Daddy Sugar Daddy is somebody who
Speaker 1: takes care to young chick. You can't be taking care.
Speaker 1: I'm done with that. If you listen, let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. I've given gifts. I've done a lot for women.
Speaker 1: If we heard you, boy, cars and all that. That
Speaker 1: was a real nigger ship. I bought cars and juice.
Speaker 1: Make some noise for godjam. That's so, that's all for
Speaker 1: the record, that's all. If your mom, if your month,
Speaker 1: if you're queen, you nothing you can't get. There's nothing
Speaker 1: you can't get. But as far as just to be
Speaker 1: like just dating and just like you know what I
Speaker 1: mean now, like because the worst thing is you spend
Speaker 1: all this money and then she's gone, come on, the
Speaker 1: worst part is, yeah, you're stuff. Ain't you gonna have anything?
Speaker 1: Somebody else? And then tell you about it? And you
Speaker 1: know how she's supposed to go tell me about that wife? No?
Speaker 1: How right and right, don't don't don't, don't do it.
Speaker 1: Don't do it right, Sonny ten Mike's cri crill, crill.
Speaker 1: That's whatever he's going going that way, Tim, Mike, take
Speaker 1: another shot on the SA No, no, no, we got
Speaker 1: Let's do at can you for the moment with some
Speaker 1: surrid Yes, come on, I got surprised is the best.
Speaker 1: Let's go to class sold their guys, can they take
Speaker 1: a shot. Ain't gonna do with you? Nig Let do
Speaker 1: it good? It's about you about about about yes, I
Speaker 1: got saloo about. Come on, we have come to you. Listen, man,
Speaker 1: we are celebrating you tonight. We are celebrating you, Tonite
Speaker 1: and Anika. Let's he's a real slow slow slow. That's
Speaker 1: clear being around the legend. That's right, so zeno so
Speaker 1: she'll night. Damn that escalated quickly he comes on, come on,
Speaker 1: are you are you bringing up old ship? He's like,
Speaker 1: no revolt, I'm not here. You did I'll swim with
Speaker 1: cool never they never had beef, always love just did
Speaker 1: you know me? And did he? This song together it's
Speaker 1: called Who's Been Seen Him? Yeah? And what he? No? No,
Speaker 1: you did the ad lit but it jog that's did
Speaker 1: he falls? That's the diddy cam. Right. They get to
Speaker 1: see every episode and they get the big which ones
Speaker 1: they picked up? But this is the watermelon is like
Speaker 1: the greatest. Let me tell you about surrock. Remember on
Speaker 1: the first summer day, on the frest summer day, noticed
Speaker 1: that ship. That's that ship. Can can we do a safety?
Speaker 1: We need to know another one. So now all right,
Speaker 1: let's go to Sugar Night. Then I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: rock the party. But sure knight, you guys are throwing
Speaker 1: this award show right, we're in New York City. Suge
Speaker 1: Knight is told to present the award or he's giving
Speaker 1: an award. I forget how that's going. Then they win
Speaker 1: an award. He didn't over year or something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not sure. I just remember him just
Speaker 1: going up there and saying what he said, niggas don't
Speaker 1: remember about the award. That's what's so iconic about the moment.
Speaker 1: Nobody remembers nothing about that. You just remember the moment.
Speaker 1: The moment was during New York. They had about forty
Speaker 1: bloods and crypts and in the audience it probably was
Speaker 1: probably was the first time that's ever happened in New York,
Speaker 1: New York. So you know, you you automatically thinking it's
Speaker 1: going down at some point, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's just when That's why I was like, it's just
Speaker 1: a matter of time. But when he once he said that,
Speaker 1: then that's when I was like, oh, yeah, it's going down.
Speaker 1: But I think I think I think Snoop. I think
Speaker 1: Snoop's moment was the moment because because when Snoop grabbed it,
Speaker 1: people thought his attitude and his demeanor was that he
Speaker 1: was getting ready to say fun New York. He was
Speaker 1: like he foxed with New York. I don't know where
Speaker 1: I'm at, like right there, and then it kind of confused.
Speaker 1: At that moment, it was like wait a minute, that
Speaker 1: was ready to like and it was like, oh ship,
Speaker 1: like he just he just kind of you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was almost like he's so so so
Speaker 1: I think that moment. I think that moment was I
Speaker 1: think I think because of Snoop. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It didn't it didn't go crazy. It didn't get to
Speaker 1: where probably could have. Um, I was backstage when it happened.
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, think about it. These niggas
Speaker 1: just haven't made your beef. So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When you think about it, it was kind of light.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I've seen worse. Ship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, those words are famous when you know, all
Speaker 1: up in the videos. But I don't want to say
Speaker 1: that because I funk with did he No, No, that's okay.
Speaker 1: He enjoys the history. He spoke about this on him. Yeah, really,
Speaker 1: what do you say about it? He actually said that
Speaker 1: it was Jermaine Duprit that he thought he was talking
Speaker 1: about that. He said that we could go flat on
Speaker 1: and said, that's not exactly different thing about did he did.
Speaker 1: He's a motherfucker what he did. He could say some
Speaker 1: ship like that, like everybody was talking about. Let me,
Speaker 1: let me retract my statement. He said. He said that
Speaker 1: he stepped the show, and Shook said that to him.
Speaker 1: He said, Shook said, I was not talking about you,
Speaker 1: I was talking about Jamaine dupri Oh. He said that
Speaker 1: that's what said. Wow, that's a big piece I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, that's what he said. We could flash back.
Speaker 1: That's a big piece of news right there, because yeah,
Speaker 1: if he's if that's what if that happened, then you know.
Speaker 1: But then Jamine dupri was saying that wasn't the case.
Speaker 1: He don't know what if they spoke. You know, his story,
Speaker 1: my story, everybody's story. You know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, this is why I
Speaker 1: got out of it. That but we had bad Boy
Speaker 1: that did they hold set with all their groups and
Speaker 1: we had motherfucker death Row with all this ship that
Speaker 1: was iconic. The other ship just made it a little,
Speaker 1: you know, because listen, the east and West will kind
Speaker 1: of be from at that time, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you know, it could have went a lot worse.
Speaker 1: I think, I think when you think about it and
Speaker 1: you put in perspective, it really wasn't ship. It was cool.
Speaker 1: What do you miss or if if you do at all,
Speaker 1: what do you what do you what do you miss
Speaker 1: most about being part owner of the source? Um? The money? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, back then, just the time,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like the time. I mean,
Speaker 1: we live in a different time, you know. You know that,
Speaker 1: you know if if you're of age, you know, back
Speaker 1: then it was just it was without computers. Life was
Speaker 1: dope for to meat, you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: was just we was in the streets. People were out
Speaker 1: in the streets. You had things to do. People were
Speaker 1: out in the hoods. People were working with each other
Speaker 1: in the hoods. Everybody's like you could be always like
Speaker 1: was like this. So it's you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just different. I looked at the Rocketfeller Tree one
Speaker 1: day and they like put like these names and they
Speaker 1: put how many people that got put on through Rocketfeller.
Speaker 1: If we could name people that got put on through
Speaker 1: the source. We're talking about Elliott Wilson, We're talking about
Speaker 1: Mike Elliott, other basketball, Chimo Sarrio, We're talking mis uh Rigs,
Speaker 1: the guy that did the Tupac thing. Uh Frank Frank
Speaker 1: he just did the Tupac Uh, the Tupac story, that
Speaker 1: Tupac documentary on A and E. Frank something, Frank Something, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he produced their um tatari we TV producer. You go
Speaker 1: on and on all over the place. I was like,
Speaker 1: if you had sauce on your resume. Look. Hip hop
Speaker 1: then got so big. These corporations, they only want to
Speaker 1: take them on who they feel is non violent and
Speaker 1: you know, you know college and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So they're the ones, and God bless them, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But Frank Frank, Now, so I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't remember Frank Frankie Frank, one of them. Goddamn it, Lisa,
Speaker 1: Frank Alexander, Now, what was your worst cover? You ever made?
Speaker 1: The worst cover ever? One of them was, um, I
Speaker 1: remember we put Gotti on the cover because at that
Speaker 1: that point, everybody so we was already losing the source.
Speaker 1: At that point we knew it. It was just amount
Speaker 1: of time. So one of our last covers was the
Speaker 1: Earth and um at that point phenomenal. Now I didn't
Speaker 1: do too well only because then nobody was you know,
Speaker 1: at that point. See when the Eminem beef, hap was
Speaker 1: saying they smell pussy, when Eminem beef was happening, right,
Speaker 1: so I got cool with y'all and murder, ain't you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying because we was basically neighbors, Our
Speaker 1: kids grew up together. My niggas and especially a lot
Speaker 1: not just not just job, but it's it's it's all murder.
Speaker 1: Ain't a bunch of niggas, So you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of niggas. So yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: So um, you know, I felt like I'm beefrom with Eminem.
Speaker 1: The situation Eminel, they're beefrom with fifty you know, it's
Speaker 1: looking like your enemies. My Yeah, it was weird because
Speaker 1: you know when that should happened. This is that's how
Speaker 1: weird shit is. It's how weird shit is. This. This
Speaker 1: is some weird ships. On fifty fourth Street there was
Speaker 1: the Hit factory where they were fifty gone to the
Speaker 1: Beef with job right, I'm at Sony Music. That's on
Speaker 1: fifty four Falso, these are two huge studios in New
Speaker 1: York at the time they both closed down. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: on the same street. It was on the saying you've
Speaker 1: been to both. Remember the Sony hip Hop room was
Speaker 1: downstairs in the basement. Alright, so cool, Jesus said of
Speaker 1: made men smoked cigarettes. So you gotta go outside and
Speaker 1: do everybody shot. When you said get a shot at
Speaker 1: for everybody, you don't be us to leave right now,
Speaker 1: let me to leave it last. I got my look yeah,
Speaker 1: yea yeah continue so so so I guess so Jesus
Speaker 1: is upstairs. Now he brought fifty downstairs to the room
Speaker 1: and I'm playing John Madden when fifty comes up and
Speaker 1: it was like, yo, now what fifty is this? This
Speaker 1: is prior to it was whatever the time that they
Speaker 1: got to the beef at Factory. Yeah, that was after
Speaker 1: the That was after that. Yeah, but I you know,
Speaker 1: I had I had fun with Red Hot Love of
Speaker 1: Tone them you master Tone. Did you know that ninety
Speaker 1: one we was on tour and Niggas was gonna funk
Speaker 1: Red Hot Love of Tone up in North Carolina. And
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I think I was the
Speaker 1: only one with a blink with on tour. Had to
Speaker 1: pull it out and save his life. And he'll tell
Speaker 1: you that, but that's before he was track masters. Saved
Speaker 1: his life. Okay, when we could get around of applause
Speaker 1: for that, save his life, come out, come on, as
Speaker 1: long as that news. You know that, nigga, do not
Speaker 1: pass the blunt, bro. He'll look at that. He'll look look,
Speaker 1: you got another one. He'll look at you and just
Speaker 1: talk to you too, like yo, listen, man, you're like yo,
Speaker 1: pass the fucking weed. You're a bad guy. Give it
Speaker 1: to give it up. She needs it. Come on. So
Speaker 1: so so he got so whatever happened at Hit Factory,
Speaker 1: he ended up running down to the end up ended
Speaker 1: up down at Sony with us who were talking about
Speaker 1: right now. I didn't know John him then. Back then
Speaker 1: it was like you, I'd see we maybe because I
Speaker 1: had rocked the party and you had what what? John
Speaker 1: probably had a song, He got a bunch of them,
Speaker 1: he had all right. So so we're doing a little shows. Holla.
Speaker 1: So we're doing shows and we might see each other
Speaker 1: and we're giving these up the shorthead Bob. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you say we don't like each other, you got your
Speaker 1: so Me and Rud wasn't even cool, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And then um when he came down, and
Speaker 1: I was like, let's say, fifty was standing over there
Speaker 1: and I'm playing and I'm looking at Jesus like the
Speaker 1: sniggers just bringing Niggs down into the fuse. But it
Speaker 1: was cool, you know what I'm saying. We we kicked it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. For him, And he showed
Speaker 1: me where I guess he had got stabblished something on
Speaker 1: the side or whatever. And he showed he had a
Speaker 1: little three two or thirty eight and it didn't have
Speaker 1: any shells in it. And he said the nigger he
Speaker 1: was wet, had the gun and the gun fell, but
Speaker 1: it didn't have no bullets in it. And he was
Speaker 1: explaining the situation. And then I ended up calling him
Speaker 1: a car service and I got him, and I think
Speaker 1: he went to Bellevue. He might he might have went
Speaker 1: to the hospital. I really don't know where he went
Speaker 1: after that, right, And that was that was the story.
Speaker 1: But then fast forward, I moved to side the river
Speaker 1: and our kids, my son is with y'all's son, my
Speaker 1: daughters with Joab's daughter, growing up together. I'm beat from
Speaker 1: whatever them he's beat from. So it's just weird how
Speaker 1: ship there's like growing up hip hop real life. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. How how how ship happens? Because me and
Speaker 1: fifty never had no beef, right, you know it was
Speaker 1: with eminem seeing each other in the club the other day, Right,
Speaker 1: I think I seal some footage I was. He actually
Speaker 1: shouted you out. He actually said Benzino's in the building,
Speaker 1: I see you, nigger or something. Yeah, seen footage online.
Speaker 1: I'm on point at my point. Yeah, yeah, nah, no,
Speaker 1: it was you know what I'm saying. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know it was you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: I never really had beef with fifty. It was no
Speaker 1: beef with fifty. You know what I'm saying. It's just
Speaker 1: that job was beetrom with fifty and me and job's
Speaker 1: cool a right, you know what I'm saying. All Right,
Speaker 1: that's some real production ship you just did, like why
Speaker 1: we're doing back? Yeah, he just told me to put
Speaker 1: just a real production the other one. What's this? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You just said it's great, So I was great. The
Speaker 1: afternoon when it's time. You can't turn about around. Listen, listen,
Speaker 1: turn about no joke, no joke on a summer afternoon,
Speaker 1: like like all jokes aside, right on summer afternoon when
Speaker 1: it's fun with some concala with a beautiful woman with
Speaker 1: a string bikini on on a beautiful beach. We got
Speaker 1: some of this right, and we got we got what
Speaker 1: we got, so we got right. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: cocaine involved as well, a little bit. You can come now,
Speaker 1: it's gonna keep my ship. I gotta take my some
Speaker 1: on the cameras want to kill you know what, y'all
Speaker 1: need drink champ coasters, the drink so right, that's all right.
Speaker 1: Just just take the stickers and put them on something.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Drink camp stuff. That'sh you
Speaker 1: fuck me up, ship, let's you know, Pep the smoke champ. Yeah,
Speaker 1: another one. No, you gotta pick this one. You gotta
Speaker 1: smoke this, light that up. That's all. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't do what I'm backwards. Don't do no, No, that's okay.
Speaker 1: They never tape of backwards. This is tobacco freed backward.
Speaker 1: Come on, this is this is our ship. Come on
Speaker 1: the whole boy, trusty house. It's not a dirty right there,
Speaker 1: the catip to the coat. But we're just gonna try
Speaker 1: to trick you. But let that up. Light that up.
Speaker 1: I remember one time I did an interview with Trick. Right, so,
Speaker 1: Trick is next to me and Ship. I'm in Miami
Speaker 1: and he's smoking and we just smoke. Were just just
Speaker 1: smoking and I'm smelling the weed. I'm like, I'm smoking, believe,
Speaker 1: But I noticed that the blunt was real thin, and
Speaker 1: Ship I was like, probably just doing like a lot
Speaker 1: of weeding this blunt. That motherfucker. Let that bitch up.
Speaker 1: I was like, new check New Jack City. Remember the
Speaker 1: part of the basement right there, giving you like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep it one tho. I don't smoke back It's okay.
Speaker 1: Just take a couple of hits. How about that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's we didn't there were dude, give us a commercial.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what it tastes like, the Polar smooth.
Speaker 1: I can't front backwood. I'm kno gonna lie. And there's
Speaker 1: not a backwood. It's a fact of wood. It's a
Speaker 1: fake backwood. And I don't feel dizzy and it's sweet.
Speaker 1: It's because no tobacco. I have little hints of like honey,
Speaker 1: I have hints of sugar, sugar. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I can't I can't take too many hits in that
Speaker 1: darns on the front. Back to the regular bunk. Let
Speaker 1: get that with my ship. I'm gonna take that back.
Speaker 1: I'm dizzy as fun from that ship right there. Man,
Speaker 1: that commercial that was dope. That was dope. I was
Speaker 1: fucked up. That ain't gonna lie. I got one more
Speaker 1: shot left in me. You crazy. No, he's not even
Speaker 1: drunk livers like. Man, please, we got this. You can
Speaker 1: drink my nigga. No, man, it's all good. Man. So listen.
Speaker 1: You've been throughout the whole industry, right, You've been inside
Speaker 1: backside and hold on, I forgot, hold hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold hold on. Forgot. I meanted to say inside outside.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I said backside. No, No, I just gonna
Speaker 1: get my serious face. You've been in you've been in
Speaker 1: culinary arts. If you had to pick one, and I
Speaker 1: don't know we answered that in a different way. You
Speaker 1: said music before, but if you had to it was reality.
Speaker 1: If you had the top, you know, reality person uh
Speaker 1: to produce a show for you right now, or you
Speaker 1: had the top person to uh put you your restaurants.
Speaker 1: I'm just it just like if you had you had
Speaker 1: a choice between what you question, you had the choice
Speaker 1: were doing could be some questions and restaurant or music
Speaker 1: to I would want music. I wouldn't want reality show,
Speaker 1: reality show, reality show over a restaurant. Yeah, because because
Speaker 1: the reality show is gonna show me at my restaurant.
Speaker 1: Ray Kwon voice good kuam voices, because like we'll be
Speaker 1: talking to Ray Kwan, like Ray be serious. They'll be
Speaker 1: like every time we do that, we'd be like boys.
Speaker 1: And where you getting cocaine? Cocaine? Don't you know? You listen,
Speaker 1: you're falling off. Yeah. Oh, let's make some noise for
Speaker 1: that shop. I got out of the gut of I
Speaker 1: got the because you know, man, we celebrate people careers here. Man,
Speaker 1: you know what you've been up here for thirty years?
Speaker 1: Who help wrong? That was a big bigger That wasn't
Speaker 1: a bigger years. It's but today it's about you and
Speaker 1: I'm bigging you up. I'm just saying that there's a
Speaker 1: lot a lot of people who can stand the test
Speaker 1: of time, like you. A lot of people there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of people who can transition pass it back though,
Speaker 1: but just the last one, Listen, there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of people who can transition like you, who can stayd
Speaker 1: tall and not complain and just sit there and just
Speaker 1: find a different way, to find another huss to find
Speaker 1: another way, to find another fucking outlet to eat from.
Speaker 1: From you being a culinary expert, from you know, cooking too,
Speaker 1: you know, being the reality TV to running the whole magazine,
Speaker 1: to running groups, to motherfucking you know doing music, from
Speaker 1: rock the Party to Mario Winners and all that. You've
Speaker 1: got Mario Winers, you know what I mean to to
Speaker 1: he smokes weed and all that. Like the first nig
Speaker 1: to turn me on. The seven different types of weeks
Speaker 1: we went. We went up to the cat skills different
Speaker 1: We went up to cats skill Mountains and stayed there
Speaker 1: for like a month. But NAS recorded there. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: it's a it's it's it's a it's about man. Man,
Speaker 1: that's not cat skills at all. Right, what's right? What's so? So?
Speaker 1: I just held my other student on the day, you
Speaker 1: know that was that? Listen. We did a video and
Speaker 1: we got like thirty shoes, Rendez vous girls up there,
Speaker 1: Me and Mario playing paintball with us for the video
Speaker 1: to Mario free is afraid? What I can't wait to
Speaker 1: tell doing no no listen man, real yeah, real, yeah,
Speaker 1: beast man. Cocaine to the way you look, the way
Speaker 1: you say, way you look that we were sponsible. That's
Speaker 1: how we know. You know you think cocaine? See is
Speaker 1: that your name is Jose I never did. I did
Speaker 1: a lot of Molly though, kind of like you know,
Speaker 1: takes up for it. You never did cocaine never in
Speaker 1: my life. Never did comde my life Puerto Rican not
Speaker 1: even that's you don't like shorter of cocaine. You're not PoCA? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I like, but but I like teaching on and I
Speaker 1: like Molly. How about that? Even Molly is a black drug.
Speaker 1: Hey man, that's your black that's also prejudiced as well.
Speaker 1: It's a black and it was Yeah, I did, he
Speaker 1: did the Cadillacs. You like momyving did. I haven't did
Speaker 1: Molly in three years. But I'm gonna looking at you
Speaker 1: in your face out of a man and man and
Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna tell you Anna not gonna do
Speaker 1: one again no, I like it. I like, how do
Speaker 1: you feel off a Molly? I performed how Star? I
Speaker 1: love it? I love it, I love it. I'm you
Speaker 1: know you do you want eat? No? I don't. You've
Speaker 1: never ate ate around it. I've seen you ate around.
Speaker 1: You ate around the around around what is eating around?
Speaker 1: You know? That's yeah? No, I eat that as on
Speaker 1: the internet. I eat But how did you guys? How
Speaker 1: did that? If it's check that out with how did
Speaker 1: that you eat? As? Never you signed your lot? You
Speaker 1: dirty motherfucker? Do you put barbecue on that episode? You
Speaker 1: never that. I'm not gonna lie. He always said, he don't.
Speaker 1: He asked, but you're putt Yeah, there's no way your
Speaker 1: face like a like about prejudice, I didn't say. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not being credit because of who you are. We
Speaker 1: already knew you man. You oldre your the bottle just
Speaker 1: against Haitians. He's right, that was him. No, No, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about sunny. I'm pretty to getting sunny. You're automatically
Speaker 1: well whatever they say. But I'm just I've never bo
Speaker 1: It's really obviously that you would ask pregatory. No, hold on,
Speaker 1: I ain't hold on. I ain't never heard it yet
Speaker 1: he's your right, your soul. You asked everybody out here,
Speaker 1: weats as put the answer. Come on, let's come man,
Speaker 1: here we go. You probably you got a lot of
Speaker 1: one with you tonight. So I'm going right, human, right, right,
Speaker 1: fucking right. Yea, that's right, that's right. She might eat
Speaker 1: your ask tonight. I think that's good time you out.
Speaker 1: Yet we're about done anyway. I don't mind that. No,
Speaker 1: we don't want that. No, actually smoking and no, just
Speaker 1: ad that's big, that's big. Come on, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: another shot. Come oh ship y'all just sneaking shot. So
Speaker 1: you ready ready? Yeah, I'm not ready. I'm that's your question.
Speaker 1: That's your questions. I mean when when when um TEO
Speaker 1: and Y came out right yes, and and the streets
Speaker 1: was buzzing, the streets, was you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: did you fail like this is what you've always dreamed about?
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. Was that the moment where music? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but what I'm just I'm you finish your question. I'm sorry, no,
Speaker 1: because but no, no, no, but you answered it way
Speaker 1: too fast, okay, because yeah, just tell me that when
Speaker 1: I just want because that was. That was my choint,
Speaker 1: not nigger like that was. I was like, who is
Speaker 1: this nigger? Everybody said, And his voice sounded like a
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican nigga. You know what I'm saying. He sounded.
Speaker 1: He didn't sound like a straight nun. He came in
Speaker 1: like pocan also prejudice because I'm not a straight nigger.
Speaker 1: He just he just said somebodations. Okay, we all prejudice. No,
Speaker 1: you shot your shot. Stop wanting that down the dry
Speaker 1: ass couple do say that. You do not even picsh
Speaker 1: that purpose of the mic. That's drink Champs drink Solottle
Speaker 1: Slottle so a drink, Yes it is. You can find
Speaker 1: him on eight nine dot com. You like you can
Speaker 1: ask you a question when when y'all give me something?
Speaker 1: Drying a T shirt? Nothing, no saying no T shirt?
Speaker 1: We got we gave speaks to me every every time
Speaker 1: it sends me nothing. Yeah, found like, I don't say nothing.
Speaker 1: I got you. He's in charge of the merch. He's
Speaker 1: in charge. I'm not in charge of the merch. Don't
Speaker 1: put that on me. I'm not ready. I put it
Speaker 1: on with a blood a man. Jesus, Come on, you
Speaker 1: are the blood cat you are catching save a Blood.
Speaker 1: Did you know that I produced a song with him
Speaker 1: and p on priz h and not c with him,
Speaker 1: and that song is fire? Yes? Specific can you? Can
Speaker 1: you play that song on your podcast as I'm talking
Speaker 1: about that, because we have to actually own a material
Speaker 1: that we play. That's because Jeff two times JP that
Speaker 1: for that. Um No, but I'm going to get my
Speaker 1: my NOS plaque in that plaque. Wasn't we all in
Speaker 1: Vegas when Prodigy passed away? We'll all have just seen you,
Speaker 1: just ran on stage with you and just seeing you,
Speaker 1: and that's when I happened, and you did my my
Speaker 1: food show before that or after that, after that week
Speaker 1: after that, because that's why you have flew me down there.
Speaker 1: And I came from the airport straight to the concert,
Speaker 1: and I've seen Havoc halways p he had already left,
Speaker 1: and then that I could and you know what's crazy,
Speaker 1: because that's why God made listen listen, just so you know,
Speaker 1: I was fighting the whole time from New Orleans or
Speaker 1: Las Vegas to where I would filmed that so and
Speaker 1: I knew that's where I was going to bring you to.
Speaker 1: So God made me pick Las Vegas to see p
Speaker 1: for his last time. I know, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be conspiracy theoriest God made you God, because it was
Speaker 1: like it was like Vegas or New Orleans. I actually
Speaker 1: like New Orleans cuisine more than I like Vegas a cuisine,
Speaker 1: but I like Vegas as a whole. God and something
Speaker 1: reasons I was telling me, like, yo, go to Vegas.
Speaker 1: So I took Vegas and I brought you with me
Speaker 1: to Vegas. And there's the last time question we all
Speaker 1: see products when when God tells you these things like
Speaker 1: when does it happen? And how did it happen? Like
Speaker 1: I just felt it like it was something that um
Speaker 1: that it was like it was like I'll make a
Speaker 1: break the show, like there was actually this because they
Speaker 1: really want was pushing in New Orleans. So this was
Speaker 1: like something that I piste off the crew. That's crazy
Speaker 1: because he was when he died, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that It was even crazier when I pulled up
Speaker 1: and I got it on video. When I pulled up right,
Speaker 1: they was doing shook ones on stage, but I stayed
Speaker 1: out there smoking and we on the camera because my
Speaker 1: niggas that picked me up. And then when I went
Speaker 1: That's when I went out. I see nor anything. I
Speaker 1: went on stage with Norway know you brought me on
Speaker 1: stage at you and and prod of you. The man
Speaker 1: already left, but across the street was addressing room. So
Speaker 1: I've seen half half what I see them. Mob D
Speaker 1: was the first niggas to really do songs with with
Speaker 1: I was so naughty for and we shot a video
Speaker 1: of the wards on with P. He was on a
Speaker 1: new tribe right, So like when we kept a relationship
Speaker 1: after that, Like I always felt like P was special
Speaker 1: at I can't I'm telling you, yeah, I always felt
Speaker 1: like Prodigy was special. He was. He was a different
Speaker 1: like and even now, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I meet a lot of people, so some people stand out.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I don't want that ship
Speaker 1: like you keep passing that ships you keep passing? Why
Speaker 1: you even smoking that? That's it is harsh, bro, she
Speaker 1: just killing me. Yeah, it's not good at But at
Speaker 1: the last time we got ut se Prodigy and it's
Speaker 1: crazy we got to see him together, man, And then
Speaker 1: then we did the song with you Down Down No
Speaker 1: non no no, you killed that. That song is hot
Speaker 1: there's not that ship is hot and you know the crazy.
Speaker 1: That was the first song we actually recorded after we
Speaker 1: actually squashed our beat and it was on your beat
Speaker 1: that for those who don't know what's have a song?
Speaker 1: What you wrapp got? That song is crazy. Just ordered
Speaker 1: my plaque um this week because I lost all my
Speaker 1: plaques and pun one not know. That's the only plaque
Speaker 1: I got And that's the only because I left it
Speaker 1: in somebody's house. But um yeah, yeah, if you left
Speaker 1: the plaque in somebody, that's only the only ways I
Speaker 1: have my punting plaque. I have super dumb and I
Speaker 1: have somebody's career. You are doing? You just car like
Speaker 1: you out. It's like holding plaque for me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So um yeah, because remember the Hood Lab.
Speaker 1: Remember I had all my plaques in the Hood Lab
Speaker 1: and the Hood Lab when he was leaving it had
Speaker 1: got robbed, so they took all the plaques. I don't
Speaker 1: know why people still plaques. You had a bunch of
Speaker 1: plaques show. Yeah, it's just work a hundred dollars like
Speaker 1: people think that it's really they cost money, especially of
Speaker 1: history though first someone who Yeah, yeah, but you can't
Speaker 1: really sell them though I got a double platinum nos plaque,
Speaker 1: still that I didn't go get I got a seven
Speaker 1: million Kelly Black. Come on, man, it's not that's not
Speaker 1: really worth that. What you think about Dr Kelly situation.
Speaker 1: I think Kelly is guilty. He should get sucked in
Speaker 1: his ass every day and jail. But I also think
Speaker 1: O J is innocent. How do you used to date
Speaker 1: O J's daughter? I think you gotta make noise for that.
Speaker 1: That was he black old J? Or this is white
Speaker 1: old J? Which was I never met? You never met
Speaker 1: old J? I met him? He him stating his daughter,
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, like when all that
Speaker 1: was going on, everything back while that was going on,
Speaker 1: why he was? Why he was? I mean it was,
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't too far from no it was
Speaker 1: you know, the trial like a you know, he was following,
Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, that was that was interesting. His daughter,
Speaker 1: what's her name? Laurenthal now Laura are Now that's all.
Speaker 1: That's all. You knocked a lot of things down, yo. Man, Listen,
Speaker 1: you know you gotta it's either it's either you say
Speaker 1: it here. You know you can't be super hand man,
Speaker 1: shouldn't be judged by by the things that he's knocked down. No, man, listen, man,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Man, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Man shouldn't be tell you something. You know how many
Speaker 1: other people that your age, that don't look like pause,
Speaker 1: that don't look as good as you look, as young
Speaker 1: as you? You know what you should be. You should
Speaker 1: be bragging about this ship me I'll be telling anybody
Speaker 1: me exactly. It's not me no more. It's not me
Speaker 1: no more. I bet you remember you you now now
Speaker 1: had your ship, you know what I mean? Like, there's
Speaker 1: some games that you'd be surprised, you'd be like you
Speaker 1: past the blood. The reason you're doing with the blood?
Speaker 1: Come on, you can tell who at this man, I'm
Speaker 1: surprised that yours that is that's the one that this is,
Speaker 1: this is, this is this is diego o g God
Speaker 1: damnit makes him to diego? Were almost done? Now, what'sn't
Speaker 1: that you're rushing? We're trying to get you. Now, what's
Speaker 1: next for zeno? Man, you can't get the rest of
Speaker 1: us next taking her down to night. We know that
Speaker 1: some as going on now on both ends. Let's go
Speaker 1: get comfortable. You know you know what I am. I
Speaker 1: see you know what I'm saying. I'm saying nobody should
Speaker 1: be left rack. He can't help lights niggas a blockhead
Speaker 1: gotta be done. It's in the Geneva Convention. I gotta
Speaker 1: got each other, that bad girl watch it back. So
Speaker 1: so what so so what's next to me? Um? Like,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna open up the restaurant. Yes, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, get back to my passion cook and
Speaker 1: try to open up a few more around the country.
Speaker 1: Still hosting, you know what I'm saying, Still still ripping
Speaker 1: the mic. I got some hot music that I'm just
Speaker 1: holding on too, and to put it out. Um um,
Speaker 1: got some offers to go back on TV. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And you know, you know, big fishing
Speaker 1: them niggas a little bit I got. I got relaxed one.
Speaker 1: That's what they love about you, because if he knows
Speaker 1: you gotta relax himself. I gotta relax. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what say, I got some opportunities and I think it'll
Speaker 1: be good because at the end of the day, like
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like there's a big demographic out there.
Speaker 1: I want to see me back on TV. I like
Speaker 1: being on TV. You know what I'm saying, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not gonna portray myself or nothing that
Speaker 1: I'm not on TV. When it comes to women, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, like I've been the streets and I've
Speaker 1: been through it all. But when it comes to women,
Speaker 1: it's nothing the matter with being romantic and being respectful
Speaker 1: him being and having something. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: there would be just because you you know you're wild
Speaker 1: in the street, don't mean you have to be wild
Speaker 1: with a woman as far as we treat it right.
Speaker 1: So I think I've always maintained that. I think that's
Speaker 1: like what I would want to pass on to my sons.
Speaker 1: Because how about marriage bootcamp? Because marriage bootcamp, we're talking
Speaker 1: about marriage. Let me about something right now that I
Speaker 1: believe his wife, I believe Jocelyn, I believe all of them.
Speaker 1: Is I believe corrupt. They're all out there for filming
Speaker 1: secretly a marriage bootcamp right now and you had a
Speaker 1: period of marriage bootcamp and through that again, word that
Speaker 1: I would do it, I'd go to six months in
Speaker 1: prison before I do it. Maybe stuff, But what is like, look,
Speaker 1: give me the money. I don't do six months. If
Speaker 1: TV is still black and white, you don't watch no TV,
Speaker 1: You're not listen. I'm not gonna be locked up in
Speaker 1: the crib with anybody no more. But you can't leave.
Speaker 1: I was. I was sneaking off to the side. The
Speaker 1: production team was always like, where's Benzino? Benzino, I'm in
Speaker 1: the woods, Like, yo, listen, give me, give me my space,
Speaker 1: give my space. That was crazy because yeah, because with
Speaker 1: the camera the scenes go off, I'd be mad as
Speaker 1: fun because I hate being played. You're like, yo, just
Speaker 1: give my space, Get my fucking space. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They'd be like, okay, okay, they don't hurt you.
Speaker 1: It's not like you would rehab. Listen. I would rather
Speaker 1: go to prison, you know I'm saying that. Say let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. Let me tell you kid, like
Speaker 1: I know you. You wouldn't be able to be locked
Speaker 1: up in there two weeks with your WIFEI going through
Speaker 1: the ship that they put you through, all right, it's
Speaker 1: a social experience of what they put you through. This
Speaker 1: is what they this this cameras everywhere, every wearing the
Speaker 1: bathroom and they're looking at your balls. And looking at
Speaker 1: your fucking they're looking at your fucking uh kissing your
Speaker 1: girl if you want to looking at that. They're looking
Speaker 1: at everything, every bedroom fucking tallest. There's tons of sex
Speaker 1: tapes out right now that can be out. That's real ship, bro,
Speaker 1: that's real ship. All right, that's real ship. And I'm
Speaker 1: always wondering, like they ain't that some six ship. And
Speaker 1: then they sit in the fucking room with fucking TV
Speaker 1: screens looking at everything has some six ship, But me
Speaker 1: seat don't ain't no shame't my game with that motherfucker
Speaker 1: out cameras. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, because what
Speaker 1: the funk we meant? You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was supposed to. Don't give a funk about that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you want to see it?
Speaker 1: Ship show? Ain't one show a conversive looking ship? We
Speaker 1: got one, man, you got one more shot man, Zeno. Man,
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you, man, I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want you know, so many people they want
Speaker 1: to tell people how much this Okay, we ain't gotta
Speaker 1: more good. We thought as the ago, we got blunts
Speaker 1: in the car. That's another pack. Yeah, yeah, those shine blunts.
Speaker 1: Shine blunts definitely. Well, I like the other shoe blunts,
Speaker 1: the ones we could roll up, the ones we were stuff.
Speaker 1: Um what was he saying? Oh, listen, man, our final
Speaker 1: our yeah, our platform as it give people their flowers
Speaker 1: while they're here, give people their roses while they here.
Speaker 1: So many people want to say, how dope. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: give you some flowers to girl. Yeah, but listen. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is so many people in our industry
Speaker 1: they want to diss you when you when you when
Speaker 1: you got so many years in this game. And the
Speaker 1: thing is the thing is and why is that hold
Speaker 1: on me? Finish? The thing is a rock and roll
Speaker 1: they say that your season the more years you have,
Speaker 1: and jazz they say that you season, the more years
Speaker 1: you have, even in wrestling, you become even the more
Speaker 1: of an iconic figure. And hip hop is the only
Speaker 1: genre is the only place where when you're older they
Speaker 1: say that you're washed up. I want to change that narrative.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why we got drink Chance. We want
Speaker 1: to give people that's older, that's a statesman, and people
Speaker 1: that season have been in this game forever. We want
Speaker 1: to give them their flowers and tell them how great
Speaker 1: they are while they're alive. So I wanted to do
Speaker 1: that out. You got shot right there, and how the
Speaker 1: funky thing is. Let's just what, yo? Did you be
Speaker 1: doing that off for the top of the hand. Well
Speaker 1: do you be writing that down? It's hard, you know why?
Speaker 1: You My brother and I know that you don't understand
Speaker 1: how you see the shot? Come on, you want to
Speaker 1: try this? Come on, try this, take a shot. Take
Speaker 1: a shot with you. Take a shot of this with me.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's take a shot with that. Cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want the summer's afternoon. Yes ahead, try it
Speaker 1: out you too, Okay, all right, I got it. You
Speaker 1: take one with a small let's go. Come on, like
Speaker 1: I put a little bit more from you there, Here
Speaker 1: you go, Here you go, sunny, want sunny? So you
Speaker 1: work at G five, G five right, trick daddy Tuesdays Thursdays.
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of dirties, A lot of
Speaker 1: dirties in the baby. Yeah, thank you? Busy? You know man?
Speaker 1: You think that wait before we go, before we go,
Speaker 1: is there anybody want to shout out? You want to
Speaker 1: get up? I just want to shout out. Definitely, you e. Um.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, everybody, all the fellas. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The energy be dope. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Um, And I'm definitely proud of you.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean because I know you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I know that you know, we know the
Speaker 1: insides of each we know stories that we will and
Speaker 1: even share drink champs of each other. So you know,
Speaker 1: like you know, we we we we we got a
Speaker 1: relationship down in between and and I don't even know
Speaker 1: how it happened like it ended up to where is that?
Speaker 1: Like I love nor you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: we we talked more than I mean, like we talked
Speaker 1: all the time. Checks on me, I check on him,
Speaker 1: and it's a It's like and you know, the industry
Speaker 1: is hard to find ship like that, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, to see you shine like
Speaker 1: this and work hard and not only do that, but
Speaker 1: bringing niggas what you You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: ship is Come on, that's a guy, that's God and
Speaker 1: you're the nigger man. I'm telling you want the most
Speaker 1: loyalists down to earth. You're stopping you stuck in your ways.
Speaker 1: When you're in your ways, that's who you are. And
Speaker 1: I learned not to talk you out of it sometimes
Speaker 1: learn to just ride with you. But this bottom line
Speaker 1: is every man in this room needs to ask this
Speaker 1: question right now. Are you eating Anika's ass tonight? Look
Speaker 1: at look at look look at that. We can't handed
Speaker 1: on that. Take a print,