WEBVTT - Episode 179 w/ Benzino 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.880 And it's Drinks, motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper. 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.200 He's like Green is your Boy in no R He's 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:23.240 a Miami hippop pioneer up his dj e FN together 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.320 they drinking up with some of the biggest players in 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:31.000 the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one sorts 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:35.120 for drunk drinks mother every day is New Year's Less 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:45.320 time for drink Champs, trink up for the Yo would 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.000 it good? Beat? Hopefully? This would it should be? This 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:48.880 is your Boy and O R eight What up is 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.720 d j e f N And this is drink Champs Realitatement, 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:57.720 Crazy Boar Happy Hour makes up right now when you 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.680 talk about legends, this man stand in front of us 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.320 right now has been in the game relentless, repeatedly. It 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.360 was a part of when we talk about media rappers 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:10.839 being media. This guy had what they considered the hip 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:15.959 hop bible. He's with a part of legendary groups like 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:21.400 rs So Made Men. He's produced records for people like Prodigy, 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.520 for people like Nas And I've heard that he got 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:28.119 his plaques and I didn't get minds. I'm offended. He 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.880 has been out here monkey foot stopping didn't. He transition 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:36.360 on y'all and did a whole another career and started 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:41.000 going more on live on Live, and he he sort 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:45.160 of felt loving and and I don't even know, but 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.080 he's still here. He's one of my closest friends. I 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:51.840 speak to him almost every other day. We disagree, we argue, 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.320 but we are brothers. He is one of the most genuine, 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:58.160 most loyalists people, most stubborn, but loyal to the car 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:01.560 and I accepted he's one of my closest friends. If 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:03.280 case you don't know what I'm talking about, I'm talking 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:10.080 about bus Zino. Make you forgot to drink Chance alumni. 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.560 It is a drink Chance alumni. Now we gotta address 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:20.680 we gotta address my bag, specially after that. That's good. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:28.280 That appreciate so um, because it's I guess this is 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:33.080 a two part question because one last time you was here, uh, 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:37.280 you was with with someone else. So but not only 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.560 that I've been hearing room was that I feel like 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:46.720 you want to address um about the origin of the source. 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:51.400 So like the beginning the genesis? All right, um, so 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:56.360 everybody knows that the source started um in Boston, Dave 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.560 May's went to Harvard. I met Dave. I was in 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.160 a group the Almighty Hours so doing my street thing. 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.040 You didn't go to Harvard though, Let's just be clear. 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.840 I lived around the corner from Harvard Street. That's Harvard. 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:13.120 Harvard and Washington was four corners, so I had a 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:14.880 little something to do with Harvard, but it was the 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:20.480 school so so and then um ours before the Source, yeah, 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.040 and already already managed by Flavor Unit. Um No, that 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.960 came after. But I think the artist so got established 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:30.079 in eighty five and the Arts was probably like eighty 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.240 four maybe three, you know, I say, yeah, yeah, like 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:34.600 we feel as long as I knew you, I didn't 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:38.640 know that. I thought the source came almighty so and 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.280 then actually Dave the first time we met. How we 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.920 met Dave was we was at a radio station that 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:47.839 went that Wendy Williams graduated from Emerson College, like all 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.640 the there's a lot of Yeah in Boston, Emerson College 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.120 is where everybody went to college to be a radio 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.080 DJ or whatever. Broadcast. Yeah, I think Stephen Hill went 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.320 to think a few people went there. Um, so they 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.000 would do this thing where um it was like what 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:03.600 do you call those things when people pick up the 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:08.480 phone and they get money for you, um telemarketing. So 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.280 people were there telemarketing getting money, trying to raise it 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:15.000 for the station. And Dave and Dave came down. We 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.960 wish the all Souls down there performing live. And Dave 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.040 came down the interview that that was the first time 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.240 ever there was no source or nothing that interview you for. 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.120 He interviewed us. He wanted to come meet us because 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.560 he had his own radio show at Harvard And that's 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.479 how the sort started because he had a radio show. 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:35.880 They like they was playing um, you know, like violence 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.480 and ship violent. You know what I'm saying, up papers 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:45.640 real quick, you know what I'm saying. Listening this taste? Yes, yes, yes, 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:52.000 that's nin a live family. You know what I'm saying. So, okay, 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.960 you did this radio show? How does all right? So 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.679 he has the radio show going, You do this radio 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.920 You have your rs O thing going? How does it 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.120 coming in? Because I believe the source was a pamphlet 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:06.159 at first start, he started as a newsletter for the 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.680 station basically what was going on a list of the 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:13.240 top songs that week, what was happening in news and everything, 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.960 And it was him and his buddies. He had four 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.600 buddies that were college buddies that were you know, all 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.960 college guys. You know what I'm saying. Um, they came 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:24.680 up with the name of the source, you know what 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:29.559 I'm saying. And when basically, my my, My, my DJ, 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.599 who was deaf Jeff at the time, m Jeff two times, 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:37.480 UM started DJ for his radio show on Saturdays. And 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:41.960 then you know when when they made the newsletter, you know, 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.160 Dave had to come to the hood because he's in Cambridge, 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:45.960 so you know, you know what I mean. He gotta 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:47.920 you know, you gotta go through the hood with somebody, 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:49.560 you know, so, you know, we took him through the 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.440 hood and he gotta, uh, he gotta add his first 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.600 ad from Skippy White's music store for two hundred dollars. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.880 Imagine that Skippy White, Skippy White. Okay, so now so 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:05.440 goes from the playmphlet. It's pamphlet obviously comes out correct, Yes, yes, 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.159 that sounded like right that the pamphlet obviously comes out 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.760 like when does it become a business when it could 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.440 what it could be. I really wasn't paying attention, honestly, 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.880 I got it, you know, I was again the artist 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:20.640 sold in my street ship. You know what I'm saying. 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:22.680 So I was hustling, So I wasn't that you know, 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.120 I wasn't paying attention to the to the pamphlet. You 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.200 know what I'm saying. I didn't. That was Dave's thing. 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:28.599 You know what I'm saying. I was doing my thing. 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.800 And then, um, you know I've seen it. And then um, 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.520 I remember he made it into a book form. It 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:38.039 was it was a small book, black and white. The 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:39.640 first time it was like a book form. It was 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.560 like like a paperback, very small. I think slick Rick 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.640 might have been the first cover of the booklet, but 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.800 it was black and white. And then I remember, this 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.080 is a funny story. So he would always go back 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.520 home Dave for two d C for the summer. So 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.960 once somebody got locked up for the whole summer and ship, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.160 so Dave stated, in my apartment and that's where they 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.560 were shipping. That was the office for the source. They 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.520 were shipping out boxes and everything from my apartment that 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.839 he stayed for the summer. She did a little sixty 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.520 days or whatever. He states that curious what was sixty 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.920 days for? Um? I got dragged to them all was 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:17.360 using the credit card by police. The police credit card. 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:25.400 Wait wait, my man Trev just got got home that 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.480 we was going to mark this vineyard. I went to Macy, 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.720 spent a whole bunch of money. I had had an 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.200 American Express source card, had saw a song. It was 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.600 a gold card. You know, I'm going in their braids 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:39.800 half of you know, and so I charged up the stuff. 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.800 I remember I bought my mother's song there I think 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.600 it was. It was around February, around her birthday. So 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.320 we ended up coming outside and I remember we was, 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:50.280 you know, the police came say, hey, I want to 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.440 see your license out and not. I said, wait a minute, 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:53.960 you don't see my license for I've already bought it. 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.200 The lady already gave and received it. We've already passed that. 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:58.400 So I want to see a license. I said, I'm 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.120 not giving you my license and rough me up with 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.800 the mace. You know what I'm saying. So what happened 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.640 was I had an old charge and this was in Quincy. 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:08.920 So they made me cop out to the old charge 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:12.720 and I had to do sixty days. Oh my god. Yeah, 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.240 some stupid ship you just got arrested for the like 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.200 the same type of ship, right you flipped on the 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:23.640 train flipped on the Chinese. What happened? You were right? 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:29.280 You say, I was like, what I even say that? 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.480 First of all, the rest of all it was the 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.920 man who was who? You know? It was the man? Right? 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.240 So you know, I'm just chilling at the crib where 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.679 I live is like man se white people was quiet 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:46.319 Saturday afternoon, eleven o'clock. Ain't nobody out there, you know 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.600 what I'm saying. No dogs, nothing out there. It's just 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.360 you know, it's just some beautiful day. Why is you 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.079 running my plate? You know what I'm saying, What then 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.160 is you running my plate for? And then he said, 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.360 then I don't know, you know. So I got up, 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.600 said said some things. You know what I'm sounding after while, 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.920 you get tired of this ship, your whole life getting 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.599 pulled over, profiled, harassed. That ship is whack man. You 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:08.120 know what I'm saying. I just got fed up, man, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.360 you know, but I'm being honest. It's the true story. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.520 I went down to the station. So by then, you know, 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:15.920 like when they take you down to the station, they 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.200 knock you up before you do your fingerprints. So I said, 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:19.920 I told him come here before he left, and ship 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.880 I apologized to him, I did because you know what 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:24.719 I'm saying, at the end of the day, at a 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:31.400 point that I wasn't raised like that, and you know, 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.520 I got kids, and at the end of the day, 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:35.400 like I really ain't racist, you know what I'm saying, 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.679 So I don't want to. I just was like, I've 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.160 just seen the cop and I was just trying to 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:40.719 make him mad. You know what I'm saying. Everybody's a 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:45.400 little bit prejudice. No, I really Everybody'll be honest, everybody 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.360 I'm prejudiced against prejudice. I'm prejudiced. Like I've really never 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.080 just seen somebody and was like, yeah, fuck him because 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:53.800 he's white, or fuck him because he's like looking about 0:09:53.840 --> 0:10:05.960 the stereotypes, Like yeah, that's really listen my grandpa. I 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:09.079 have two of the most racist grandfathers, both of them. 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.200 I got my my Spanish grandfather. He's racist. He only 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:16.880 like Puerto Ricans hold like four ricons. And then I 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:21.480 got my black grandfather. They both passed away only like 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.480 black people. Nick as soon as mused to come and 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:27.480 he's like, oh Spanish people is here, how, like yeah, 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:34.560 that's my grandfather's And then my other grandfather he said 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:39.199 to me this stereotype. Well, I guess it is Spanish 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:45.160 Spanish people coming on. That was like, you know, so 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.719 what I'm saying everybody is a little bit prejudice. Like, 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.080 come on, I'm sorry to say this, but you're gonna 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.959 tell me that if you see somebody right now in 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:58.840 the car accident and one of the people was Asian, 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.800 you ain't going on that biggase they've fall. Come on, 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.400 you can laugh at that, nigga. Come on, come on 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.480 a little bit, because it's a room one that the 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:16.000 agent you know, you know, you know, like they got 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:22.959 sucked up eyes. What No, I'm the only one that 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.720 heard that they can't drink. I don't think the reason 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:31.439 why you heard that he's real. That's the reason why 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.480 they said they can drive. I thought that No, no, no, no, 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.200 you got you to do se we want, we want, 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:41.520 we want the gorilla bus. Jesus man, let me drinking 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.199 that sweet ship. Come on, you're a brown drinker. You 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.040 remember we drink with you and you can wound up 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:50.800 in a wheel chair. Do you remember that one day 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:52.439 he was like, I'm drinking with you today. You know, 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:54.800 I was like where I like, but I'm not gonna 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.800 lie I did not anticipate the wheelchair, but when it 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.439 when it happens before instagram ship Instagram. You know what 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:05.640 I'm saying, when you drinking the wheel chair is there? 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:13.839 What you're gonna do? You're wheelchairs? Definitely, definitely, And I 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.280 apologize to any Asian people who took that the wrong way. 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.040 I'm just saying that because me tell you, let me 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.480 tell you something. I get more. You know, it was 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.719 heavy and my d MS like, yo're just the fucking mob. 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:30.199 We're gonna kill you. Try to back up my d 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.920 MS and was like, yo, bro, you know you're a legend. Bro, 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.760 and man, listen, you know people look up. I wasn't see. 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.520 I don't me. I'ma be honest, Like, it took me 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.719 a while to understand social media. So a lot of 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.920 stuff with social media with me, if I don't pay 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.679 attention to it after the first three days is gone. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.800 So that's you know, stuff that that probably is good 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.760 towards me. I won't even look at it, you know, 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:53.839 because I don't want to react a certain way. This 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.120 is what I mean. Everybody's prejudice. I'm so sorry dropping around. 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.360 But like if you ever see like a person argue 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.200 and then that person's fat. And the first thing they 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:09.319 say is I'm not older, like you know what I'm Yeah, 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:13.600 I'm not touching the person got glasses and ship calling 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.079 for eyes like everyone's a little prejudice. Yeah, but I'm 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.160 not touching the fat ship because trust me, my dms 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.160 will be filled with But you know what I'm saying. 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.440 I'm telling you people people sensitive, man, and you gotta 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.280 be careful. We have Wayne he said, don't give a 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:31.280 about people sensitivity. He said, yeah, he's a comedian. He 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.319 really can't. You're gonna do his craft. Yeah, but yeah, 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.480 but that ship could fuck you up in business work. 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.079 You know what I'm saying. He's already you know what 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.120 I'm saying. But you can get blacklisted. You say the 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.880 wrong ship and Marlon Wayne's you know he won't be 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.319 getting them big movies. You say the wrong ship, I 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.319 bet you won't say no wrong ship about no Jews 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:59.360 bant that. Yeah great? So when did you when when 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.439 did this sword become a thing for you? When it 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:03.400 was I gotta go back to the being dragged out 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:14.440 the mall. Yeah, I'm just no, no, no, I mean look, 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.160 I mean listen, the source thing was was was formed 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.800 by Dave May's and his college graduate and his college 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:23.880 guys as how many and how I got set up 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:27.960 with the source was when um, you know, Daved like 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.720 would have because he had the source, he would be 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.040 connected to different people in the labels, so he would 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.680 invite the A and oars when labels had A and oars, 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.880 come down and come see the group we've opened up for. 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:42.360 Tradrey opened up for L L, every B everybody that came, 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:43.680 we would open up for and we'd be doing our 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.280 own ship anywhere. So um, yeah, I mean ship. You 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.880 know what I'm saying. Like it wasn't un tell that 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:55.000 a story was put in about the RS. So where see, 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.360 you gotta understand this is my theory. Maybe I'm prejudiced, 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:05.840 O maybe your practice with this? All right, And I 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:07.400 know I might take a lot of flak for this, 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:13.360 but college people, college people like at the beginning, this 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.760 is my own theory. I smoke and I come up 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.280 with theories, and all right, we all do. All right. 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:22.280 So college when when hip hop first came up? When 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.360 when when you have a kid that's living in the 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:28.240 hood and he goes to college, you know, sometimes the 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.560 kid turns his back on the hood because he's living 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:35.160 that college life now and he thinks automatically that it's 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:36.920 not like a bad thing, but he thinks that's what 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.240 he's supposed to do. I'm supposed to go to college 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:40.760 and get the funk out of that life and get 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:42.800 away from that life. But here's what happens when hip 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:46.760 hop comes. There's a divide now when gangster music comes 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:50.480 and street music comes now, because you know, college kids 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:54.480 ain't with all that, but in their in their privacy 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:57.040 of their rooms and everything they're listening to, you ain't 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:58.840 put the hat on, and you know what I'm saying, 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:00.360 you know what I mean, because it gets them amped 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.560 up because there's something about the streets, in the in 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.880 the like the just that life that people are intrigued 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.000 and they want to be right okay. So then well 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.720 the street guy is like, oh man, well, you know 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.040 what I'm saying, funk that y'all ain't street. So y'all, 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:16.800 y'all can't live you don't know what it is to 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:18.160 live like you know what I'm saying that way, So 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.440 there's always been like a you know what I'm saying. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:21.920 Have you ever went to like a college party that 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.720 you're saying. Good, at that time, college people didn't belong 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:26.760 in hip hop at that I wouldn't say belong in 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:28.800 hip hop. What I would say is this not running 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:30.800 the magazine. What I would say, no, not even run 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:34.560 the magazine. But like when Gangster Rap came, you know 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.440 what I'm saying to me, You know what I'm saying, 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.160 it would have been more. You know, the more street 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:44.120 guys you have rating music and writing, you know, I mean, 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.760 the problem is street guys don't. Aren't journalists back, you 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.000 know what I'm saying. You got the college kids are, 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.320 so it's always so it's like it's cool when you 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.040 have like Q tipping them like that movement that you 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.360 know what I'm saying, like that's non violent and even 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:58.880 Chuck D in them movement with pro Black. There was 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.800 a lot of stuff that was just made hip hop 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.120 that was really for colleges. You know what I'm saying, 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:07.000 like non violent, non but but but the street music 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.119 is what We're not four colleges, but it was they 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.920 were the ones that it was. Yeah, because it wasn't 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:14.639 it was for everybody right, it was it was for 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.920 everybody right. But when Gangster Rat came, it was like 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:20.480 the streets whatever against the right to my iced tea, 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.359 and yeah, man, like that's what we came up off. 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:28.200 Because some people credit school e D was to do 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:32.399 for school Philadelphia. School e D came out with the songs. No, 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.280 you wasn't thinking school D was a gangster when you 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:35.920 heard PS. You didn't think that. Now he might have 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.280 been a real nigger in his hood, but the deception wasn't. 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.800 The music wasn't gangster in the image, like you didn't 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.440 see it, you know what, n W way you you 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.639 actually felt that right now, what then is going on? 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:58.080 I'm not drinking. That's come up with a different so yeah, 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:02.159 so so so so. Now Dave and his college guys, 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:06.119 you know, David, his college guys are the ones up 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:10.360 there doing the journalistic They're the ones rating the albums, 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:15.080 and everyone huh Me and Dave's relationship was they were 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:17.359 all the people up there would always look at it 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.040 as you know, Dave's hanging around these street guys, and 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.480 the rumor was that he was being stored and you 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.480 was the guy who came and like stop their story 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.639 that happened. No, no, no, no, not nobody was Nobody 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.560 was stilled nobody at that time. The source wasn't even 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:33.240 making a lot of money. I mean, it was doing decent, 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.320 but like these kids already had, they all came for money, 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.360 like they came from good parents and good homes. Yeah, 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:41.359 like you know what I'm saying. They went to h 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.160 Edward Young and James Bernard and you know, these guys 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.000 were like, you know, like you know what I'm saying. 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.600 They wasn't, you know, fucked up in the game. So, um, 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.920 they just to me automatically. They just didn't like me 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:54.760 at all. I mean you could, but but let's let's 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:58.359 just get to the why did Dave actually come to you? 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.480 And I'm saying because because all right, so the financing 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.679 so as no no, no, no no. As time went on, um, 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:10.680 you know again, our relationship grew and he's he's he's 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.960 not our manager because we've never signed nothing but exact 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:18.760 and everything he's doing is like managerish. So he did 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:24.440 a story on us. It tastes like Jesus pussy right here. Whoa, whoa, 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:38.320 it's phenomenous. He wasn't saying that with just this one, right, 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.879 I'll take Jesus pussy back, man, Come on, come on, 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:47.119 it's nice. It's it's nice. It's nice. It's nice. This 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:50.800 is nice. It's nice. What we're talking about. You just 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:56.320 we got with with Dave. So they they put all 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.440 the core about the US in the magazine. Uh, this 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.440 is when a ma he blew up the magazine that 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:02.960 there was in New York at this time. They moved 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.840 the office they put the article. Now they got a 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:09.639 pretty big staff this time. When he did the article, 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:11.720 the dude that he sent down to do the article 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.560 was Bones Malone. Now, Bones Malone was in Remember Life, 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.639 the movie Life Remember at the end Heavy Dan. The 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:24.600 dude was shoveling Bones, Bones Malone, and the culture was 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:28.880 like a hip hop guy writer you know. Later on Yeah, 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:34.560 he went to funk with Vive. Okay, so um, they 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:38.600 sent Bones to do the article. Bones is roding Russ 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:40.560 and Boston. He's seeing how real it is. I actually 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:48.000 got locked up with Bones. I got locked up warrant 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:51.960 for something. But honotually got locked up with Bones and 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.520 I got built out. Bones left. He was supposed to 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:57.160 stay for three days. He didn't want to finish the story. 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:01.239 The people like all that. I guess they all got 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.600 together was like, nobody do that story. Because they didn't. 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:07.720 They felt like we didn't deserve a story. Who's who's 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:11.200 the people, all the staff, the whole staff other than they, 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:14.640 the entire staff thought that we didn't deserve a story. 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:16.840 And that remind you. At this point, we had been 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.480 signed by easy Well that he had died, We had 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:23.080 signed Tommy Boy Records, we got signed our c A, 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.399 we had a few things out what and plus our 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.359 man owned the magazine. Why can't we just get the 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:30.480 little feature? We never that. We didn't have a feature 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:33.760 up until then, I never had it. It was it 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.359 was the red Man covered with the ARTISTI on his nose. 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:42.200 So Dave ended up finishing the fucking article and article himself. 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:45.800 I knew he wasn't gonna pass back, so I had 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:48.680 another one ready. You know you're too long, man, This 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:52.719 is all right now, I want real congradulations. So um, 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:56.960 so they did the article and that's the first article 0:21:57.040 --> 0:22:00.240 came out. Next thing, you know, the whole staff a 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:04.840 letter to Dave and said step down else we're all 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:09.000 walking out. That's like everybody here writing a letter. You said, 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:16.880 leave drinks, leave, fuck your percentage sucking money, just leave 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:20.800 and go now right. They said that they broke the 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.879 integrity of the magazine by putting the story in US, 0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:26.720 and you know, and that you know, I was this 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:30.080 bad guy and all the ships. So they had put 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:32.440 the letter around, sent it to everybody in the industry, 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:36.479 radio stations, record labels like it just you know, so man, 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:38.119 it kind of sucked us up. That was like the 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:40.280 first time we started getting like, you know, like a 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.960 bad rep in the industry because we wasn't from New York. 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:45.560 You know, New York look out for New York back then, 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:47.480 you know what I'm saying. We were right down the 0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:49.720 street New York. Wasn't working with Boston like that, you 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:52.760 know what I'm saying. So um as far as hip 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:56.399 hop goes, so um. Yeah. Like and then you know, 0:22:57.160 --> 0:23:00.160 Dave and then firing all of them. He bought out 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:02.920 the other three partners and then came to me because 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:04.280 I stuck with him. You know, I had to go 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:05.960 up to New York and kind of you know, stand 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:07.440 by the side because you know, it was getting a 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:09.000 little crazy. You know what I'm saying. They was threatening 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:12.480 them and ship and it's all based and solely around 0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:16.119 because of that article period period. And it wasn't like 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:18.640 it was an article saying the music is this good 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:23.920 that just like days, these are days. Friends. They should 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.359 not be in the magazine. They don't deserve it, they 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.200 don't deserve a feature. And at that time you're not 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.800 considered the partner. Correct, No, not okay, So this article 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:33.920 comes out, they do this, you can come to New York. 0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:36.720 At that time, I was getting more money in the Source, 0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.320 you know Instry. That's like you know what I'm saying. 0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:41.080 It wasn't you know, I mean like they was doing 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:43.480 their thing. But it just was just every time I 0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:45.600 would go, like I throughout my whole life, I never 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:49.320 had an office in the Source. Ever, office. I would 0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:51.159 always just go up there Dave's country be and not 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:53.280 just sit there smoking blunt. We would just talk about 0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:55.520 any meetings whatever. But I never had an office. I 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.520 never felt comfortable at the Source. My whole time there 0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:01.360 with the staff felt like and then sometimes I would 0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:03.200 want to smoke weed with him, bring him to the 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:05.720 fire escape and try to be cool. As time went 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.359 on and ended up that you know, hey, you know, 0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:10.200 do you think you could talk to Dave Man about 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:11.480 my pay? Do you think you could talk to that? 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:13.360 Do you think you could? It was always them coming 0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:15.040 to me because Dave was always kind of like the 0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:17.200 mean one to kind of flipped. But back then, like 0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:19.560 they all walked out day fire, them came to me 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:21.879 and said, Yo, it's just me and you. You know 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:23.960 what I'm saying. I'll give you half the magazine and 0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:27.359 half the percentage. And I was like, all right then 0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:29.119 then still see no money. It was not like you 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:31.080 gave me some money and then you signed an actual 0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:35.479 cars tract. No, this is a handshake, just a handshake. Um, 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:37.560 do we sign a contract? I don't know, that's a 0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:39.840 good question. Maybe maybe now I don't even remember. I 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:42.240 just remember, like I do remember him saying, look, you 0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:44.040 want to get down, you know you want? I was like, yeah, 0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:46.240 why not? You know what I'm saying. But I really 0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:48.520 didn't do anything for a while, Like I didn't do ship. 0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:50.360 It wasn't nothing. I was, you know what I'm saying. 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:53.000 But as time went on, I learned more about the 0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:55.920 business and branding of it, and then finding other ways 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:59.400 to get money outside just the pages, like the Source 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.480 Awards had lot to do with me. And you also 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:04.480 created onside hype right, No, no, unsigned happed. Wasn't mind 0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:07.000 that that was that was the source of Maddie Maddie 0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:10.800 see some run outside that. Yeah, not like I didn't. 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.280 I didn't you know, Five Mix wasn't Hid did none 0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:15.960 of that. But the things like the Source hip Hop Hits, 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:19.520 the Source Awards, Source All Access TV show with Lisa 0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:20.840 Ray and Tretch. You know what I'm saying, we had 0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:25.879 on syndication um and then like my presence, I always 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:29.720 felt like this, do you do y'all know? Do y'all 0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:33.200 know anybody that XXL from the streets? Like can y'all 0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:35.120 like when you think Excel, do you think of any 0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:45.000 nigger from the street Vibe magazine. People wanna understand, hip 0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:47.680 hop wasn't made in colleges. Hip hop wasn't made in 0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.760 the boardrooms. Hip Hop was made in the ghettos and 0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.840 the streets. And that's and and people people take that 0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:57.080 for granted. But that's just what the funk it is, 0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:58.959 you know what I'm saying. The people from the streets, 0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:04.280 you know, that's like you know your whole dead, you 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.800 know what I'm saying. But there is a room now nowadays, 0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:10.200 there is a place for this college map Like you 0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:12.399 have a Kanye West as example, It's involved and you 0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:16.200 have a Parole as an example, or lou Paper. But 0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:18.800 of course you're saying this is at the original, this 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:26.000 is the origin of it. Yeah, okay, being part of 0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:32.800 the show, God damn it, Harry go Hey, alright, alright, 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.320 so what were we talking about? A little clazy? You 0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:40.719 could argue the same thing that you're saying. That has 0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:43.000 to do with where the music comes from, and and 0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:46.040 these guys running the magazine is the same for the 0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.760 industry as a whole, like the record labels, guys that 0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:52.200 were marrying the music that weren't from that's always been places. 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:56.160 My problem is they don't respect people that the industry 0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.480 never respected the streets. You know what I'm saying, They 0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:00.480 never respect the streets. And that's why I was what 0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.399 I brought to the source. I think I brought a 0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:06.000 credibility because after a while, you know, I started like, yeah, 0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:08.919 so this is my magazine. I started getting more involved 0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.000 with the covers and more involved with decision making. Like 0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:16.400 I hired Kim as the first female editor. Never never 0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:19.000 happened before, yet she got hired as the first editor. 0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:24.560 M Carlito Rodriguez, he came was locked up him right 0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:28.359 out of jail, Moras. Oh, listen, a lot of a 0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.280 lot of these people from the soul. So are these guys. 0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:32.879 They were all doing amazing things with networks and everything, right, 0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:36.639 but but a lot of them was you know, you know, 0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:46.480 I mean that to Tari Over with TV producer over 0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.960 it growing up hip hop? He was I thought he 0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:50.320 was gonna be a part of growing up hip hop. 0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.239 What'll happened? Oh man, pip hop man, there's a lot 0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:56.880 of That's a whole other story, whole other story. I mean, 0:27:57.920 --> 0:27:59.920 you know, it was just you know what I'm saying, 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:01.960 they wanted me and my daughter. They want to court. 0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:07.160 You know what I'm saying, They wanted court. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man, 0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:09.639 she's she's doing her thing. But you know, you know 0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:13.200 what I'm saying, family things, you know what I'm saying. 0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:16.639 So we didn't decide to do it, you know what 0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.399 I'm saying. Yeah, you don't have to talk about that. 0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.400 Yeah you know, yeah definitely. But all right, so let's 0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:23.760 getting back to the sauce. So now he comes to 0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:27.880 you when he says fifty and so now there wasn't 0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:29.639 no money, I don't get no money nothing. Okay, but 0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:32.200 what time frame we're talking about so we couldn't understand what. 0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:34.840 You'll be honest with you, I still I still wasn't 0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.320 like I'm getting ready to get big money. Even when 0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:39.440 he made me a pardner, I still wasn't like I'm 0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:41.640 gonna get millions of dollars like I didn't think about 0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:44.400 of that, you know what I'm saying. When the money came, 0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:47.360 it just was like a blood because it was just 0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:50.560 like what the funk man, Like after after they got 0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.120 fired and we cleaned house, that's when everything just started 0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.760 going crazy. Like I mean, it was just it was 0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.040 just too much money. And I didn't I didn't, you 0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.160 know what's like, because you just you just just you 0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:04.280 didn't think about money and didn't you because when he 0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:06.800 made me a partner, I'm like, you're like, why cool? 0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.560 Whatever you know I tried to do, I wasn't making 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.280 money prior to that, right, I'm to out legally right, 0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.400 I was getting my street on. Okay, all right, that's 0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:18.320 not so about all right? So how long after when 0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:22.360 you became a partner the money actually come in. Let's 0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:29.440 see years, years, yeah, years, like ninety nine, Like I 0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.720 wasn't but you started at night? No, no, like no, no, 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.920 I probably like ninety four, so years later I probably 0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.440 got started seeing money from the source of ninety nine, 0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:44.000 maybe around maybe, but from Nino oh three crazy. It's 0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:47.040 like the Wolf of Wall Street. You're sucking out, sucking 0:29:47.080 --> 0:30:08.440 anything out there. Stottle. Yeah, it was a good time 0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.560 because I mean we was getting twenty five thousand dollars 0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:16.280 and that, and we had eight eight ads every month. Correct. 0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:21.000 It was like I just look, I remember, I was like, 0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:22.480 I mean we would we would go to l A 0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:24.880 and we would just like spend hundreds of thousands of 0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.320 hotel rooms and just stayed it for months, like at 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.280 the Beverly Hills and just sitting I wouldn't want to leave. 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.240 They'll be like, yeah, we're gonna I'm not gonna stay 0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:33.600 here for a few more weeks and ship. You know 0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:35.760 what I'm saying. I just didn't have any like you 0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.240 know what I'm saying. I just thought that the money 0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.440 and see I never questioned Dave with the books or anything, 0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.000 you know, I just know that I had a couple 0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:46.640 of cards and I was tanying off to the film 0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.160 off the Motherfucker's you know what I'm saying, And all 0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:50.680 my niggas just like how you. That's why I love 0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:52.680 you because you all your niggas and it's the same 0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:55.160 faces I had. I was bringing my niggas all over 0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:57.800 the world, eating lobsters and stay. You know what I'm saying, 0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.440 Like you know I stayed at the Beverly Hills. I'd 0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:02.040 be in the bungalow, but they'd still be in the 0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.640 main spot, which is still beautiful. Like you know what 0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:06.520 I'm saying. So you know, no, you know what I mean. Like, 0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:10.280 so you know, but but I didn't save anything. You 0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:12.240 know what I'm saying. I didn't say nothing. Know what 0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.440 I'm saying. It was supposed to supposed to like every 0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:21.880 night you got a little life man, You got a 0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.160 little life man. Yeah but yeah, but yeah, but yeah, 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.440 but yeah but if if if I didn't, if I 0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.360 didn't know to invest some ship, then you know what 0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.920 I'm saying. You know I would invest the track right now? 0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:34.160 What is that open? That's open already? Or no? We 0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:35.880 got about a couple more weeks now we put a 0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:39.520 new hood and what was what southdcap all got to 0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:43.720 be soft? What South decap the cab South Decap the 0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:49.840 cab South South Decabb. You know what actually you trying 0:31:49.880 --> 0:32:01.000 to put on I try to South Cat. Why That's 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.280 That's one thing I know about you. You really really 0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.800 know how to cook, like you really know how to cook. 0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:09.680 Like you had the best trimming grits I ever had. 0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.160 It's like you just came over that. That's because you 0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.320 you you know I'm talking about you know what I'm 0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:15.840 talking about. It just one day, were just at the 0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:17.800 crib and we were just bored. He was like, you 0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:19.640 went through my ship and it's like, oh, I'm gonna 0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.200 look this right now. And I was like, like it 0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:24.880 was just and you just you wasn't even prepared, like 0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.240 that's how and it was just so he gave me 0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:31.760 some shrimps right with that Tofu Yeah, yeah, yeah, just 0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.640 the funny ship. Right, it's just tofu. But they cut 0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:37.520 it like it's and they put two little black eyes, 0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:43.600 like what the fund is this? But but they put 0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:47.840 a bay on it, so like it tastes like you know, 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:53.760 it tastes like slime on it. And he's also blacks 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.560 in the first only person in the history of life 0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:00.840 to bring pork in my house, and he brings park 0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:03.320 in my house. He brought the park shoulder. I didn't 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:06.000 even think a pink got a shoulder. My dude, like, 0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.960 how did you know that this thing I brought? I 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.800 thought I was doing something right thanks Giving I'm saying. 0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:25.360 I'm thinking he's porter we kid. I'm saying, we showder 0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:31.880 it's the truth. Just thinking maybe take the park show 0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:35.480 to put it in the liver room a punk show. 0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:48.080 Was sitting by the team. He was madest man, so said, 0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:52.000 he gives you and what part would you started taking 0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:53.560 it serious when he was like, you know what, this 0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:57.600 can be my my ticket to get out of the streets. Man, 0:33:58.400 --> 0:33:59.880 I don't, man, I swear like they was just the 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:03.280 time where I was just doing so much drugs or 0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:06.560 spending so much money and running around with females and 0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.200 just doing all kind of ships. It's like I really 0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.440 didn't like it was. It was a time where definitely 0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.520 I didn't I didn't look at I didn't look at 0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:16.680 things for probably what the way I should have been 0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:18.160 looking at him. You know what I'm saying. I just 0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:19.920 the money was coming and I was just spending it. 0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:23.320 I wasn't writing articles in the magazine. You know what 0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:28.400 I'm saying. You know, um, I think I think there 0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:33.080 was a period of time like maybe maybe, like oh maybe, 0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:35.440 like oh one where you know what I'm saying with 0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.640 the Source Awards and everything, doing a few of them. 0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:39.960 And you see, because with me, I always felt like 0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:43.239 nobody liked me. I felt like nobody like gave me 0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:46.160 credit anyways. Like anytime I felt like I did do something, 0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:47.960 I never got credit for it from the people at 0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:50.719 the staff. I never got credit from like you know, 0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.160 I already got a bad rep you know what I'm 0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.520 saying with with everybody in the industry, like you know 0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:57.080 what I'm saying. So it's almost like I had to 0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:00.560 wear that ship where it's like what was man dahn? 0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:02.719 They don't like me anyway. So it was like a 0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:04.120 point where I was like, funky, I'm not gonna get 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:07.000 the credit for anyway, So funk them, Funk everybody who cares. 0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.759 And I remember, I never forget it when we lost 0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.520 the Source, right we're in New York's New York's rough, 0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:16.640 like New York's rough on athletes, anybody like you could 0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:19.400 have just won three World Series and you sucked the 0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:21.840 last two years, get out, we don't even give a 0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:24.239 funk about it. I felt like that with the Source, 0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.440 and we lost that it was like I felt like 0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.600 the whole New York, in the whole industry was just like, yeah, nigga, 0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:31.440 you lost it. See lay to get the funk out 0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:33.480 of here. And it was like, you know, it was 0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:36.120 it was, it was. It was like it was when 0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:38.880 y'all was up. No, not me. I was never. I 0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.520 mean Dave Dyve used to rub you know a few 0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:43.080 because day it was like, you know what I'm saying, 0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:45.239 like a real harsh type of guy, like you know 0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.160 business and you know, like the Hawk, But me, you 0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:49.960 know what I'm saying. Nah, Hell no, I was I'm 0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.520 the same nigga like and nigga's noticed, man, you know 0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:54.120 what I'm saying, Like you wouldn't even know whether I 0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.560 had money or not, because I'm just gonna be the 0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:58.640 same nigga. Like if you all around and we're together, 0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:02.560 we're gonna smoke eat. If I'm shopping with y'all, everybody 0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:04.520 gets something like, I don't you know what I'm saying. 0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:07.160 I never really because I was always getting money in 0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:09.080 the streets anyway. So it's not like and even when 0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:10.719 I lost the source, I felt like ship I go 0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.719 back to the streets. I felt bad for Dave. But wait, 0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:16.040 wait before you lost it. You guys lost the sorce. 0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.799 Is there any truth to everybody saying that you were 0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:23.160 you're giving yourselves a mix and you was giving yourself No, no, not. 0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:24.960 The only time I gave myself the mix was the 0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.719 Eminem situation, and I had it. I felt like at 0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.120 that point because it was me against the staff, me 0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:32.960 against everybody. I felt like at that point, I was like, 0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:35.480 funk everybody. I just I was in a I was 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.840 in a dark place where I felt like I'm standing 0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.000 up for something that's right. I know deep down what 0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.279 I'm standing for. It's just not rapping, but I just 0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:47.040 felt like nobody backed me. Nobody. I felt like the industry, 0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:48.719 you know what I'm saying, And I had to learn 0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.080 it's the hallway, Like you can't look at the industry 0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:55.839 to be um righteous, loyal righteous. You know, you can't 0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.680 look at them to be revolution and it's about making 0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:00.840 money and you know what, I'm at that point that 0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.440 maybe because I was already making money, I just took 0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:05.279 it for granted people because I didn't have to answer 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.120 to nobody, like I was at the top of the 0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:11.200 food change what you had, grditance to do it all 0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.200 over what you do the Eminem thing in the same way, 0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:15.719 it's hard to say that. It's hard. It's hard to 0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:17.319 go back and say what you do anything is over 0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:21.120 because because it's like, you know what I'm saying like that. 0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:25.000 You know, at that time I was I felt deep 0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:28.880 about my my what I was. You know what I 0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:31.319 was standing for. You know what I'm saying. My thing 0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.520 was hip hop. And I always said this and people 0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.080 have heard it before. Hip hop is the only thing 0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.120 that made white people come to the culture, buy into 0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:43.640 the culture, spend money, and also interact with the culture 0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:47.000 through hip hop. Nothing else has happened. Nothing's nothing else 0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:50.280 that brought white people to black people then that Okay, 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:55.280 So I felt like once they get a white rapper 0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:57.560 and make him white where that white people want to 0:37:57.600 --> 0:37:59.920 buy him, then they then they funk with that balance 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.560 because now white people, we'll just funk with him because 0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:06.279 because of the skin color. Before they had to come 0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:09.520 funk with us because that's the music. Like I didn't 0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.919 feel that way about the Beastie Boys, I didn't feel 0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:14.200 that way about Third Base. Out of it with Eminem, 0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:17.600 I just felt like, Okay, hip hop is big now. 0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.080 It's a pop. Now, now we need a white people 0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:22.880 are buying into it. Excuse me, Now we need a 0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:25.560 white person to represent the white people. And that's just 0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:29.160 what happened. What I said happened happened period, Like anybody 0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:32.919 that even tries to food himself, like like he came 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:35.200 in and there was a whole there's a whole whole. 0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:39.640 There's a whole demographic of white people who just ain't 0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:42.600 fucking with niggas, period. I don't give a funk. They 0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:44.960 just ain't fuck Those are the guys who vote for 0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:49.360 Donald Trump. You know, no matter what fun policies, you 0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:52.160 don't funk with niggas, then we're fucking with you, all right. 0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.200 And it's just it's it's a it's a color thing, 0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.480 it's a tribe thing that that's That's just what it is. 0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.640 And since they outnumber black people, since white people out 0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:02.040 black people, they're gonna win, you know what I'm saying. 0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:06.439 So so I just felt like Eminem, and Eminem didn't 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:07.960 even have to be the one I'm gonna say because 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:11.160 it's necessarily his fault. But but but right, right, But 0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:14.600 but when you look at the Eminem siture, hip hop 0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.120 is more than just rap. It's a culture, it's a 0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:20.120 it's it's our life. It's just isn't rap, it is 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:21.879 just this isn't wrap. You know what I'm saying, it's 0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:24.759 it's it's our life. So you know, to him, I'm 0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:28.320 sure it's wrap. You know what I'm saying. But unless 0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:31.279 you grew up in the culture, you could never know. 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:34.359 I don't feel Eminem is of the culture himself. He's 0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:40.200 he raps of of the culture of of no, no, no, no. 0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:42.839 Eminem is not in the culture that I'm from. That's 0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:44.680 not a bad thing. I'm not mad at that. A 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.759 lot of people ain't. But he's not. We're not from 0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.120 the same coaches. He grew up one way. I grew 0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:52.600 up a whole different way. That's where you come. You 0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:54.840 know what I'm saying. That's what I mean culture, You 0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:57.359 know what I'm saying, Like he grew up where there 0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:00.919 was not too many black people and growing up around 0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:03.680 black people and how we live like like nor we said, 0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:05.239 it's funny are we talking about this? And you kind 0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:08.879 of started the conversations about prejudice. But the reason why 0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:11.759 it's prejudice because we all have our own ship the 0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.520 way we grew up each race of people. As long 0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:18.360 as we respect it, it's good. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:21.720 you don't think like somebody trying to black dude in Nascar, 0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:24.239 he's gonna have a hard time. Like if you see 0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:27.720 a Spanish dude and a white dude right now someone's staff, 0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:34.200 you immediately say the Spanish dude did he I I'm 0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.040 just saying. I'm just being honest, like, and I'm spanning, 0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.719 so it hurts me. If there's a knife involved and 0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:42.239 i see a Spanish doing the white dude, I'm like, oh, yeah, 0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:50.000 you got him, that's true. I'm not agree with you. Now, 0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:52.400 Look if there was an a K forty seven, you 0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:58.840 know what I'm saying that you know with five schools 0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:01.759 and you know what I'm saying, We know so, but 0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:15.120 but this is the ship. So at one point, at 0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:19.719 one point it had to be you know, he was 0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.680 he was running the operation at one point, yeah, running it. 0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:24.799 Like everything had to go through me, like pretty much. 0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:27.839 I mean many years was that if you remember from 0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:33.960 I would say two thousand to two thousand four ish 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:36.600 that when you had clubs Zeno out here, clubs zo 0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:41.000 I got Maston clubs zo clubs. They know it was 0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:44.440 not fun. Bro, it was not fun. I'll tell you 0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:46.759 the funny ship. Listen. This is the funny ship. That's 0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:51.560 what listen. Listen. So me, I was you and you 0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:53.400 both hit me like you'll come to the club. So 0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:56.080 I come to the club, my nigger. I walk in 0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.279 and this is I think it's Jarrold party, but it's 0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:00.279 your club if both my friends at the time. But 0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:02.239 I don't want to ask for no free bottles. So 0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:04.959 I went and I bought like five bottles about dude. 0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:08.439 As soon as my bottles come to Eller's fight breaks out. 0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:13.319 I'm like, I'm not leaving. I just want this ship. Yeah, 0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:15.560 I think I don't give a funk. The whole club left. 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:22.279 I still didn't drink. I'm not just made for the ship. 0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:26.320 And then the dude came and just makes everybody. So 0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:30.200 I'm like, oh, I gotta deal with it. I gotta 0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:34.920 deal with that fish. My ship. This is a Pops 0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:39.200 with managing time. I mean, I just about the club 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:42.200 because I was tired of getting fresh, going through problems, 0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.160 getting in mention everywhere. So I see know what we're 0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:46.000 gonna get this collected. I lost a lot of money 0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:47.319 in that club. I didn't make no money in that club. 0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.560 But we have we have fun. So let's let's let's 0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:52.200 stay on the source now. So you're sick. So everything 0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.360 was running through you. When you say everything was running 0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:56.839 through you, this is the covers, This is the mic 0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:58.680 I was started at this point. Yeah, I was like 0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:02.200 checking covers. I came up with the hip hop behind 0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:04.800 Boss cover. That was one of my most influential, biggest 0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:11.759 covers ever at that time. I think it was um Um, 0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:15.080 I'm not sure. I know, I remember a l I 0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:20.160 remember c murder. Um, I'm not sure it was. It was. 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:21.800 It was a bunch it was, it was. It was 0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:23.640 a bunch of people, but it was no one's ever 0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.080 done that. Then I would do like the double covers. 0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.080 Then I was like I was coming with themed covers, 0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:30.040 like I was really you know, we were smoking, we 0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:33.719 were being the creative, very creative, very creative. We sit 0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:36.600 there smoke talk Dave and Dave as a monster with 0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:38.440 just writing everything down the notes. I mean, he's a 0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.840 monster with everything You're going this house, there's notes everywhere, 0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:44.000 Like you know what I'm saying. So you ever spent 0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:51.560 money on um, that's stupid ass chain which one. I mean, 0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:54.000 buying all that juwilry and then only getting like a 0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:56.520 quarter of what you spend is the dumbest thing you 0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.480 could ever do. Like, that's just real ship. That's the 0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:04.000 biggest appreciation you could. You know, out of guns, some 0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:05.920 people invest in guns. You get more out of out 0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:08.319 of fire arms. Jesus, I don't know where we're going. 0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:18.200 There's people there, yes, I know people that just investment. 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:22.040 I don't know where we're going because when laws changed, 0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:26.600 the press goes up the guns. Yeah, you gotta drink something. 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:28.439 You're just pouring some more in but you ain't drinking 0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:31.200 none of that. Come on, brother, Come on, brother, I 0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.360 don't know if you know this. This is a platform 0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:35.799 where we celebrate our artists. There's so many people, there's 0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:38.080 so many places that you go after so many years, 0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:39.879 they say, after you have ten years in this game, 0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:43.200 you're over. You actually had you're going on, Like, damn 0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:50.560 there thirty years in this game. Over thirty years, you 0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:52.320 know what I'm saying. I would say, like, honestly, I 0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:55.360 would say when I was in my grandfather's basement and 0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:59.320 were spinning to be rail like that, you know, like 0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:02.759 your grandfather was racist too. Grand my grandmother works. Your 0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:07.239 grandmother wants was Puerto Rican? Okay, yeah, look like Puerto Ricans, right, Yeah, 0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:10.799 I had a darker skins. You a little light skin too. 0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:17.200 You should get over for Becans of Africans representative. Okay, okay, okay, 0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:20.920 what you just said were like the Puerto Ricans of Africans. 0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:28.640 That with the Puerto Ricans. Yeah, I don't want to 0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:31.799 do like man. We gotta do one for Zeno. Let's 0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:35.160 not drinking time one and one strip. This is what 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:38.000 the street stripes. I never seen you in a pair like. 0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:41.680 Let me tell you something. You're a real Bosston dude. 0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:43.440 I've never seen you in a pair of anything other 0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:48.520 than give us shot. It feels like shot god damnit. 0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:52.560 Yeah didas here. I ain't gonna lie. You got the 0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:56.759 Prince and ones on today. I respect those, but I've 0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:00.200 never seen you in lights. Come on ever, so I 0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:02.120 need one? I need one? Yeah, yeah, give one, give 0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:06.719 up anyone? Okay, leave, you're gonna take one with us? 0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:09.840 Come on, it's like with us. Leave. I gotta drink this. 0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:13.920 Le starts speaking English perfectly after take spoil the spoil 0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:17.440 tyger bone. Yeah, a little we celebrate your career. Okay, 0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:20.400 you're being up to Okay, this is gonna be just 0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:24.520 brands where just going all right? So you're from Overlacka, 0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:36.240 you know what where we're at kat Cheers Tree Lanka. 0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:49.240 Huh look that's bing bones love it hip hop Miami. Goddamn, 0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:55.839 let's him me late, hit me late, hit me late. 0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:58.000 You know what? Wh when did you come up with 0:46:58.040 --> 0:46:59.759 the tyger bone ship? I don't know. We've been drinking 0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:03.279 that forever too, Like you the only nigger on earth 0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:08.279 that they didn't put me onto it. We was all 0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:12.680 drinking at the same time. Side speed Jada kiss yeah, 0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:18.359 Jada kiss yeah yeah, and have the tiger you're back 0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:20.520 in the days. They should come with a tiger's bone 0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:22.160 in it. It's to be an actual bone. I see, 0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:24.920 I see some green but see green tiger bone. It's 0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:28.160 called Nike Weill. You know it's good for your yang, 0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:30.640 you know, you know, like it's like a natural viators 0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:33.680 were drinking around. You're not gonna walk around knocking it down. 0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:35.560 But if you if you show up to the game, 0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:43.799 you're ready. You read it. You I ain't got nothing 0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:56.760 to say, ain't no bla So so you start getting serious. 0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:04.320 Open smoke, bro, I got you Oprah every month. You 0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:06.799 know what was gonna cover of Oprah's magazine every month, 0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:10.400 Oprah Oprah. So why you didn't if you knew, if 0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:12.880 you knew that these guys were making a mutiny against you, 0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:16.120 these guys were saying that, why you didn't just go 0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:18.560 all out and put yourself on the because because I did? 0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:22.520 You did. I did that cover with was Shug kiss 0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:24.880 Nas and me and it made the American flag. It 0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:28.320 was a but I just again, I did that because 0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:30.120 it's like, you don't want to go by yourself. No, 0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:37.080 but no exactly, but niked with a motherfucking rainbow. Make 0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:39.840 excuses up. Like I always again, I always felt like 0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:42.719 my music never guy to just do. I always felt 0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:44.640 like because it's like, oh, you know what I'm saying 0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:46.880 like this, it's the source is the gift and the 0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:48.839 curse for me. You know what I'm saying, Because really 0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:51.800 I always wanted to do music like I wasn't a magazine. 0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:55.680 I always knew that about you ever since I've met you. 0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:58.480 I know that your music, music is your passion is 0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:00.920 That's that's what I love. Your path, that's what I love. 0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:05.680 That's what I started doing, like, but it always that's 0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:07.880 what I would do over. I'd be like I stayed 0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:10.080 the funk away. I wouldn't know it made the source 0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:13.359 and the staff and the college kids and all that ship, 0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:16.600 and I'll just stay stead the streets of my music 0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:19.560 because to be honest with you, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:23.600 that's where I'm more comfortable anyways. Now, now the great 0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:26.200 thing is I did learn business. I didn't learn how 0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:28.040 to be business oriented. And I got to sit in 0:49:28.160 --> 0:49:30.959 something and you guys impacted the culture heavily. That was dope. 0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:33.040 But look at me ship like that. I don't even 0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:35.759 I'm telling you, I swear to God like you're a 0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:40.319 legend year that ship. Listen. I'm happy that I could still, 0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:42.360 you know what I'm saying, still be kind of relevant, 0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:45.800 still make music still, you know, be you know, a 0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:47.680 part of hip hop, you know what, cause I don't 0:49:47.680 --> 0:49:49.360 want to leave it. You know what I'm saying. I 0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:50.880 still want to be a part of hip hop. So 0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:53.279 when I go places, whether it's through love and hip 0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:57.200 hop ship, I mean, people know me from the source. Um, Auntie, 0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.520 that's about forty fifty and all the way down to 0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:03.480 you know, eleven twelve year old like her daughter and 0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:06.600 everybody in between now from loving hip hip hop like 0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:11.120 the gangster. I'll be sure. No, I don't want to 0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:14.000 be there. I mean, did you say something else? I 0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:16.080 want to be that, But I was saying I was 0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:19.200 shooting there. Got to be a better. He's got to 0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:24.440 realize your light skin. We try to act dark skin 0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:29.000 for you trying to do you got you gotta relax 0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:32.800 this lit be like the gangster like that's why you 0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:38.600 put the dead drops like it's different. I don't want 0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:41.120 to listen. Listen. I'll never even consider myself light skin. 0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:43.920 I didn't see all that ship. I've never seen the 0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:48.080 light skin. But I've never seen that ship like light skin. 0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:49.920 You know what I'm saying, Like any time I went 0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:52.680 to school, it was black white other because I got 0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:55.120 my friend. For years, I've been seeing like you've been 0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:59.160 acting Bobby Brown brown, and I just always wanted to 0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:06.000 tell you, nig I never was like ever. That's why 0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:07.480 you can say that. I'd be like, man, I don't 0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:11.000 act like that. You're seeing act like I don't act 0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:16.680 like that. Oh my god, So I um suck ft 0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:24.839 sunny spot that so oh ship, oh, ship get five 0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:27.160 mis was he the first one to get five mics outcast? 0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:31.359 The first? The verse five Mike's had to be before that. Um, 0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:34.160 I believe the outcast first. A good question. It's a 0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:37.040 good question. Yeah, that's a good question. So he normy 0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:38.640 thought that, you know, he thought that I was the 0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:40.839 one given mix. He never liked me, I would see 0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:43.800 nor I didn't like to see. He never really was 0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:47.440 up expect with what time we see, we see you 0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:49.319 talking about the show. They'd be a little short head 0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:54.080 bob like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know I'm saying that. 0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:56.800 He told me he was like I thought he was 0:51:56.840 --> 0:51:59.799 the one to give him. I was like no fun. 0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:02.839 There was the bad articles like like like like, um, 0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:05.160 I used to always think that because that's what people 0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:07.480 told me. It was like like like those years that 0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:10.279 you named where you felt like it was in all 0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:12.840 be all see people didn't know that. People thought that. 0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:16.040 Once he was involved with the source, it was everything 0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:18.200 was you you know what I'm saying. So every time 0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:21.359 I ever got a bad review, absolutely was. I would 0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:25.759 read it and people like that MAGAZINEO what he got 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:30.239 against me and the crazy ship. I never actually went 0:52:30.360 --> 0:52:33.440 down and actually wrote to see that there was somebody 0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:36.879 who put their name to the actual article. I never 0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:38.719 paid that till I got older, and I was like, damn, 0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:41.600 that might not be After all, I had my old 0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:44.040 I had, I had like I love hip hop, and 0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:46.360 of course I had people, you know, like I was 0:52:46.440 --> 0:52:48.879 a fan of Sartain artist, fan of a of a lot, 0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:52.160 but um, I just never was the one to be 0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:56.360 reading about motherfucker's And you started to beat between trialal 0:52:56.480 --> 0:53:05.680 quest and tupop, I started to beatould get so you 0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:08.759 just said the source awards was all you that that 0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:12.360 that's crazy because the people would if he thought like that, 0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:14.200 how many other start like No, I definitely thought that. 0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:18.799 I definitely said he thought I'm guilty? Who PRIs yo? 0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:22.719 He said, Yo? Nobody was because because man I thought 0:53:22.760 --> 0:53:26.320 you was, I was like, no nigger because because they 0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:28.000 thought they should have got a five, I thought they 0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:33.160 should have got a five? Who the fujila they should 0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:34.480 have got a five? I ain't I should have got 0:53:34.560 --> 0:53:37.040 a four and a half. I got a four for 0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:43.719 any nor I take a personal four. Four. You got 0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:45.799 two fous. I'm your two fous, But I know SIOK. 0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:51.920 The shock paid you off and ships. To be honest, 0:53:53.000 --> 0:54:05.719 he was motherfucker. So yeah, so we can't give silk 0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:10.720 shocking them blow ratings. They buy and s like twelve ads. 0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:13.680 Look at we did like twelve ads, So so okay, 0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:17.920 we'll give you twelve for twenty piece. Like come on. 0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:21.120 Pete was like, would you've seen him? You would? It 0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:22.840 would be a partner source where it would just be 0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:25.359 all that, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, who 0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:28.640 the fund does that? Shout to master people. He sat 0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:35.279 in that same chip you're sitting that right now. We 0:54:35.360 --> 0:54:37.960 gotta shout out title check us at title dot com, 0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:40.839 Forward slast dream Champ, shout to massive Peal revolt, Yes, 0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:44.880 got to check us out. This mine's gonna be on 0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:47.640 TV because I never get on TV. Well this we 0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:50.759 don't know what it was because I noticed that mine's 0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:53.000 never get on TV. Is this one't gonna be on TV? 0:54:53.160 --> 0:54:55.480 Or I'm gonna be like back in the room again, 0:54:55.600 --> 0:55:00.640 like we are you talking about? Saying? Man? I like 0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:02.880 you know, I'm like, damn, I did one of the 0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:05.080 first ones. It was pretty dope. And then he gets 0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:07.600 then he gets the revote joint right and I'm looking 0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:09.480 at all the revote ones and I'm like and then 0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:11.000 I'm seeing all the you know what I'm saying, all 0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:13.160 the ads and everything. I'm like, this, ain't this a 0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:16.480 well we stepped it up? Saying this the fucking we 0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:18.960 don't get you know what you're saying, Just like, man, 0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:22.600 I'm like, well, is this one getting on? You know, 0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:25.239 I'm saying, what's the excuse we don't get paid off 0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:28.040 that as? We definitely don't get. But is this one 0:55:28.080 --> 0:55:30.239 getting on revote? This one? This one is going to 0:55:30.280 --> 0:55:33.320 be on? Yes, we have we have a different you 0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:38.200 watch title Internet. Yeah I haven't done that yet. Yeah, 0:55:38.680 --> 0:55:42.320 I'm still TV now will be on YouTube? Reard to 0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:46.799 YouTube and I know it's on YouTube, but you want 0:55:46.840 --> 0:55:52.400 to be on there? But what about TV? It's not 0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:55.360 gonna be hip hop level? It's not hip it's not 0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:58.640 you think? Did you don't want me on revote? Not 0:56:00.000 --> 0:56:13.239 to do it? That I can you can do? Say 0:56:13.280 --> 0:56:21.920 that means whole Coo signs you brother. So so at 0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:28.600 one point, Height lives the game. Everybody you gotta go 0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:34.399 through bus you. Zeno also has a love life. He's 0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:48.319 knocking a lot of these girls down. It's crazy, man, 0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:52.200 I mean you know, those are some good years. I 0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:55.759 ain't gonna lie. Those are some great years, phenomenal. I mean, 0:56:56.120 --> 0:56:58.560 those are some good years, you know. But you know 0:56:58.600 --> 0:57:02.080 I don't kiss and tell, yeah, because you know why, 0:57:02.640 --> 0:57:04.560 because there's somebody on the other end of that that 0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:08.680 you gotta respect, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, because 0:57:08.719 --> 0:57:12.480 they might not want beyond blast like that. I mean me, 0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:14.640 I'd love to sit here and tell you intricate details 0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:16.000 and all that ship, you know what I'm saying, But 0:57:16.720 --> 0:57:18.760 you gotta respect people one the other end, on the 0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:20.640 other side who ain't here to speak up for them. 0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:22.880 So I don't kiss and tell. But you know, those 0:57:22.880 --> 0:57:24.800 are phenomenal years. We could say that, But did you 0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:34.080 give away mikes or some pussy? I mean, you don't 0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:38.040 gotta answer that. You ain't got a lot of got 0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:40.520 a lot of technts. You look like you're sitting there ready, 0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:49.280 it ain't it ain't nothing wrong with that, Like if 0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:54.160 that's what it was back then, Like listen, right, match 0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:59.240 your question. Right, So if you won the magazine, and 0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:03.400 if this female artists out there, and if you you 0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:05.480 know what I'm saying, have a situation where you and 0:58:05.560 --> 0:58:08.040 the female artist is talking, and you'll have a relationship 0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:10.680 and everything, and then she has an album coming out. 0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:16.280 What would you do? Sound? This is sound a little 0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:20.280 hobby Wine stage. Where are you going? No, I don't 0:58:20.280 --> 0:58:24.840 know what I'm saying. I would listen to her album. 0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:29.800 What would you do? Pass it off to the journalist, 0:58:30.640 --> 0:58:34.520 to y'all mad y'all gotta say some ship, but you 0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:40.400 gotta live. What would y'all do? Yeah? Tell you made 0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:42.439 a whole new mic system. I know you a trick. 0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:50.000 I see him have no money around. What did happens? 0:58:50.120 --> 0:59:00.560 You get your snicker? Just tell my show? Yeah, I 0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:03.000 mean you got to use your influence sometimes the ways 0:59:03.040 --> 0:59:05.520 that's just how stuff happens. It's never a Harvey watch 0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:09.000 the situation because you know what I'm saying. What I'm 0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:13.320 saying that still too. You carry yourself a certain way, 0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:15.400 you know what I'm saying. The intrigue is on is 0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:19.840 in their mind and their hearts also, so you never 0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:24.520 had to Bill Cosby. Now come on, oh man, like 0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:26.400 I would never do no ship like that. I don't 0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:29.040 you know. My thing is if I can't, if she 0:59:29.120 --> 0:59:31.040 don't want me, I don't you know you know what 0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:33.520 I mean? If she don't want me. Then that takes 0:59:33.560 --> 0:59:36.680 out you know a lot, like you want like part 0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:40.040 of you wanting her is her want you? That was hard? 0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:42.160 It was hard. That was that's the name of your book? 0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:52.000 What like? She looked good saying that that was all 0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:55.480 That was a ball. That was a ball. So um. 0:59:55.840 --> 0:59:57.800 But you had a lot of fun. Did you have 0:59:57.880 --> 0:59:59.800 a lot of fun? You had a lot of fun. 1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:02.200 You had j album. Yes, I have a lot of fun. 1:00:02.240 --> 1:00:04.040 I was the fun would you have? I was a horror? 1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:06.840 That was a horror. Yes, that was a whore. I 1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:10.760 was next, but I ran across the same. But I 1:00:10.800 --> 1:00:13.560 started to realize I was easy. So then I started 1:00:13.560 --> 1:00:19.120 to realize I can't be easy out here on these holes. Yeah, 1:00:19.120 --> 1:00:21.080 I was easy that I talked to the ship. I 1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:29.200 was drinking. Yeah. At nineteen, I realized I was a joke. 1:00:29.240 --> 1:00:31.360 Bof I was like, it was just leasy. I said, 1:00:31.400 --> 1:00:35.800 hold up, I'm gonna think about it. I'm gonna about it. 1:00:36.160 --> 1:00:41.720 You wanted a threesome. They to training. Think about the 1:00:41.920 --> 1:00:51.960 two girls the tricks train zone training. But it's two bitches. 1:00:52.040 --> 1:00:56.520 But what was happening? This is about you today. Ask 1:00:56.600 --> 1:00:58.760 you a question, have you have you ever data celebrity, 1:00:59.600 --> 1:01:03.360 uh not dated smashed the celebrity. I think that's what 1:01:03.480 --> 1:01:08.640 you really meant. I was trying. I was trying. Yeah, okay, okay, 1:01:08.720 --> 1:01:11.800 imagine your question. Did you fall in love with him? No, 1:01:12.600 --> 1:01:14.680 you didn't fall in up? Have you ever fall in 1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:18.200 up with with a celebrity? No, there wasn't a celebrity 1:01:18.320 --> 1:01:19.840 or not what I was dealing with. It was pre 1:01:20.000 --> 1:01:23.400 celebrity celebrity. Yeah, I knocked a couple of down. If 1:01:23.440 --> 1:01:25.120 that's what you're trying to get that I knocked a 1:01:25.160 --> 1:01:28.240 couple of them down. I ain't knocked down and give 1:01:28.320 --> 1:01:32.320 ads or like you know, because yeah, no, no, I 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:34.320 mean listen listen to mean that. I mean it's not 1:01:34.480 --> 1:01:36.880 like you know, but I would have if I would 1:01:36.880 --> 1:01:39.480 have had listening, I would have put myself in a 1:01:39.520 --> 1:01:41.840 couple of the magazine every two months? Is the piston 1:01:41.880 --> 1:01:45.480 niggers off? No, I'm saying, if you got the magazine 1:01:45.800 --> 1:01:48.960 and the Source Awards and like, there's a certain celebrity 1:01:49.000 --> 1:01:52.720 you're liking, and somehow, some ways she's interested in hosting 1:01:52.760 --> 1:01:59.120 it because you can sliding the d in, but you 1:01:59.280 --> 1:02:02.640 was sliding in the idea. Is it fair to said 1:02:02.680 --> 1:02:05.320 everybody here has a celebrity that like a celebrity crush. 1:02:05.960 --> 1:02:09.480 All right, So if you had the opportunity and like 1:02:09.640 --> 1:02:12.360 to let her host the Social Awards, you know what 1:02:12.400 --> 1:02:19.840 I'm saying, would you do that? That's the Social Wards now, Okay? 1:02:21.760 --> 1:02:26.040 Lisa Ray hosted the Sound Lab, Little Kim hosted the 1:02:26.080 --> 1:02:30.680 Social Wards. Right, No Kim host Social She gave out 1:02:30.720 --> 1:02:34.960 a water something. She was a part of everything. No, 1:02:35.640 --> 1:02:38.880 I'm She's gonna be on here soon. That'll be dope. 1:02:39.080 --> 1:02:42.720 And Foxy Brown too as well. That'll be dope. That'll BEP, 1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:46.520 That'll be dope. Definitely. I'm gonna watch those. Yeah, definitely, man, definitely. 1:02:46.600 --> 1:02:53.280 So where's your favorite? Bevot? But I bet you y'all laughing. 1:02:53.360 --> 1:02:55.919 Watch watch y'all can see that. As for a little 1:02:55.960 --> 1:03:00.160 kid things, y'all gonna laugh. Y'all't be sitting there watch 1:03:00.200 --> 1:03:02.040 the TV with your girls. She to be sitting in 1:03:02.080 --> 1:03:08.720 the argo. Come up, you're like that crazy, So you 1:03:08.800 --> 1:03:18.480 know you can't get me three months of title. So 1:03:18.560 --> 1:03:20.200 what's the favorite what's your favorite part of the game? 1:03:21.880 --> 1:03:25.920 The music studio niggas, you know what I'm saying. Smoking, 1:03:26.080 --> 1:03:29.600 everybody like positive, happy, having a good time, like all 1:03:29.680 --> 1:03:31.840 on one page like this, this is the most dopest part. 1:03:32.080 --> 1:03:33.880 That's why I come in for this because niggas don't 1:03:33.920 --> 1:03:35.440 do this, like you know what I'm saying, Like you 1:03:35.560 --> 1:03:37.720 like like you actually take your niggas and make them 1:03:37.760 --> 1:03:39.480 a part of it and that's the fun of it. 1:03:39.640 --> 1:03:42.120 Like that's that's that's that's that's what I love about 1:03:42.360 --> 1:03:46.240 hip hop and the game, like like the fun saying 1:03:47.040 --> 1:03:50.280 the money makes you crazy? You ever? You ever m 1:03:52.040 --> 1:03:54.080 because we all go through this, but you ever like 1:03:55.040 --> 1:03:59.120 you know when you miss understood, like like how do 1:03:59.200 --> 1:04:00.840 you go about that? Like you know what I'm saying, 1:04:01.400 --> 1:04:04.760 because like I remember when you first um started using 1:04:04.760 --> 1:04:07.120 the internet, you would actually try to meet people like 1:04:07.320 --> 1:04:10.800 somebody say something and I just want to stay away 1:04:10.840 --> 1:04:13.280 from my fucker's I felt like again I was I 1:04:13.360 --> 1:04:15.200 felt like again all these years of going through the 1:04:15.200 --> 1:04:17.040 ship with the industry. You know what I'm saying. I 1:04:17.200 --> 1:04:19.120 just you know what I'm saying, Like I go get 1:04:19.160 --> 1:04:21.640 with the streets, you know, Like once I get with 1:04:21.760 --> 1:04:24.000 niggas in the streets, they don't judge me. The streets 1:04:24.040 --> 1:04:26.440 don't judge. That's what I'm saying about the streets, like 1:04:26.480 --> 1:04:27.960 wherever the fund you're going through, you can go to 1:04:28.080 --> 1:04:30.280 that block and no one's not gonna say nothing, even 1:04:30.320 --> 1:04:32.680 if you tell them about a lost seven million dollars 1:04:32.760 --> 1:04:35.640 my home kid, and motherfucker's just like you're passing me 1:04:35.800 --> 1:04:38.919 things for display, some second smoke, some weird motherfucker's don't 1:04:38.960 --> 1:04:41.640 care about that. And that's why I like that to me, 1:04:42.240 --> 1:04:43.800 is like you need that in life, you know what 1:04:43.840 --> 1:04:48.160 I'm saying. You need that because you know, you know, 1:04:48.240 --> 1:04:52.240 because you see me money, losing money, losing source losing. Look, 1:04:52.280 --> 1:04:54.320 I had games, you have losses. You have games, But 1:04:54.360 --> 1:04:56.840 why I come from ship, you know what I'm saying. 1:04:56.960 --> 1:04:59.880 I feel like, what the funk? This ain't that bad anyways, 1:05:00.400 --> 1:05:02.280 you know what I mean? So when you go back there, 1:05:02.400 --> 1:05:04.360 you just once you always go back then want you 1:05:04.360 --> 1:05:06.720 because I stay in the hood wherever I live, wherever 1:05:06.720 --> 1:05:08.520 I go, I stay with hood niggas. I just want 1:05:08.560 --> 1:05:10.080 to be in the hood with hood niggas because that's 1:05:10.120 --> 1:05:12.680 what the most most comfortable. But that's because you don't 1:05:13.280 --> 1:05:16.080 if you take these losses, you don't. Oh my god, 1:05:16.160 --> 1:05:19.040 what is anybody gonna think? What is it? Like? I 1:05:19.200 --> 1:05:21.240 wasn't supposed you know, I had a good run, you 1:05:21.320 --> 1:05:22.919 know what I mean. So you know, you up, you down, 1:05:23.040 --> 1:05:24.520 you hustle, you know what I'm saying. You know that 1:05:24.600 --> 1:05:27.880 we talked about it. So let's so let's address the 1:05:27.960 --> 1:05:30.840 elephant in the room. What is you and Dave May's 1:05:30.880 --> 1:05:35.360 relationship standing at this very moment? Where's the elephant that 1:05:36.280 --> 1:05:43.080 you know imaginary? Um? I mean, you know me and Dave, 1:05:44.120 --> 1:05:49.360 Me and Dave was together since seven. Dave's the god 1:05:49.840 --> 1:05:53.520 well the supposed godfather of Coy. Dave knew me when 1:05:53.520 --> 1:05:58.400 I had no kids, I mean, Dave, the federal indictments, uh, 1:05:58.680 --> 1:06:01.920 you know, all the fun asks, all the problems, the beefs, 1:06:02.000 --> 1:06:04.560 the guns, the shootings that there's that the day has 1:06:04.600 --> 1:06:07.320 been a part of my life almost every day of 1:06:07.400 --> 1:06:10.640 my life. Four or five different cities we don't lived in. 1:06:11.160 --> 1:06:14.040 I mean, so it was over twenty some years. So 1:06:14.120 --> 1:06:15.760 it was just and we went through a lot together. 1:06:16.520 --> 1:06:20.440 It was just the time that Dave do him and 1:06:21.000 --> 1:06:23.040 me do me, you know what I'm saying, and just 1:06:23.080 --> 1:06:25.680 give each other, give each other break, you know what 1:06:25.720 --> 1:06:29.000 I'm saying. Because again, we were together a lot, and 1:06:29.160 --> 1:06:31.560 you know, was it hip hop weekly? Because like, um, 1:06:31.640 --> 1:06:35.280 you guys, you know after the Hip Hop Weekly was 1:06:35.360 --> 1:06:39.600 just because you know, like once once we lost the Source, 1:06:39.680 --> 1:06:41.560 I just had an idea for like Dave still want 1:06:41.640 --> 1:06:43.800 to really be in the magazine game. You know what 1:06:43.800 --> 1:06:46.520 I'm saying. Not so much people you don't understand. You know, 1:06:46.720 --> 1:06:49.400 the source was lost if they heard the story, but 1:06:50.160 --> 1:06:52.560 a bad investment with the internet in the early nineties 1:06:52.840 --> 1:06:55.320 with Source dot com and it crashed and you know, 1:06:55.720 --> 1:06:59.360 took out a massive bank. Yeah, crashed because all the 1:06:59.440 --> 1:07:03.640 early cala the whole thing. But the idea, they were 1:07:03.680 --> 1:07:07.280 just before their time, all right, So you know you 1:07:07.320 --> 1:07:09.520 know what I'm saying, Like we just put the magazine 1:07:09.560 --> 1:07:11.840 out and had an idea. But at that point it 1:07:11.920 --> 1:07:16.320 was just like magazines was falling anyways, Vibe fell, Excel, 1:07:16.600 --> 1:07:20.600 every all the magazines was following Print wasn't you know 1:07:20.640 --> 1:07:22.480 what I'm saying. Everything is on the phone now. So 1:07:22.600 --> 1:07:24.840 you know, we did Hip Hop Weekly, paid the bills 1:07:24.920 --> 1:07:27.000 or whatever, but it wasn't It was just like a 1:07:27.080 --> 1:07:30.120 quick patch up. You know, I could say this about Dave. 1:07:30.200 --> 1:07:32.960 When we lost the Source, Dave a piece of that 1:07:33.200 --> 1:07:35.480 piece of Dave went with it, Like you know, I 1:07:35.560 --> 1:07:38.080 could I could I could see that that hit Dave 1:07:38.680 --> 1:07:40.720 way harder than it hit me, you know what I'm saying, 1:07:40.800 --> 1:07:43.840 So that I feel for Dave for that, you know 1:07:43.880 --> 1:07:47.840 what I'm saying. But you can't take away anything now, 1:07:47.920 --> 1:07:52.360 I know when people go their separate ways. Dave's gonna 1:07:52.400 --> 1:07:55.080 want to do his side of the story, right, and 1:07:55.160 --> 1:07:58.520 I got my side of the story. You know, it's 1:07:58.600 --> 1:08:01.920 unfortunate that we could. We couldn't tell listen to staffords 1:08:01.960 --> 1:08:06.040 who want to Everybody wants the Source story. Everybody, everybody, 1:08:06.240 --> 1:08:09.360 everybody wants to do the Source story. And it's gonna come. 1:08:09.480 --> 1:08:11.520 But it's gonna be like from what I say, it's 1:08:11.520 --> 1:08:13.320 gonna it's like how like the Tupacs. It's like a 1:08:13.440 --> 1:08:16.360 hundred different Tupacs. That's what's gonna happen with the Source. 1:08:16.600 --> 1:08:19.080 And I feel like this. I feel like without me, 1:08:19.880 --> 1:08:24.160 you know what I'm saying. There's no story without without me, 1:08:24.360 --> 1:08:28.880 without me, without me, It's it's just it's just um. 1:08:29.200 --> 1:08:31.800 So you're saying that there's a story being made right 1:08:31.840 --> 1:08:33.759 now or a film or something. No, I mean, everybody's 1:08:33.760 --> 1:08:35.840 trying to make their own. Everybody's trying to make their own, 1:08:35.920 --> 1:08:39.559 you know, everyone eventually wants to put out the Source story. Yeah, 1:08:39.640 --> 1:08:43.519 it absolutely can't be without you, But they're gonna have 1:08:43.600 --> 1:08:45.640 to tell it. You know, Dave has his side and 1:08:45.800 --> 1:08:51.720 show that the couple of the editors have their side perspectives. 1:08:52.120 --> 1:08:57.920 I mean, that never happens. A lot of things should happen, 1:08:58.080 --> 1:09:00.160 you know what I'm saying. What I'm saying, but but 1:09:00.280 --> 1:09:03.400 the reality is that's not gonna happen. So I'm gonna 1:09:03.439 --> 1:09:06.519 tell my side, you know, you know, I gotta. And 1:09:06.600 --> 1:09:08.800 it's not just the Source, Like my life story has 1:09:08.840 --> 1:09:12.920 a lot more chapter because after the Source, I went on, 1:09:13.400 --> 1:09:16.439 after hip Hop Weekly, I'm still moving this different things 1:09:16.720 --> 1:09:19.120 and before the Source there was a lot so um, 1:09:20.040 --> 1:09:21.920 you know, but the Source was because that was a 1:09:22.000 --> 1:09:24.439 big part of the culture. Those eighteen years we had. 1:09:24.520 --> 1:09:27.599 It was an amazing eighteen years because it was ups 1:09:27.680 --> 1:09:36.479 and years years. We got a long time. You think, 1:09:36.880 --> 1:09:42.160 hell yeah, and we got good, we got we gotta 1:09:42.160 --> 1:09:45.360 remind people this is pre internet. The Source was the 1:09:45.479 --> 1:09:50.800 lifeline for hip hop. Source was amazing. I can see 1:09:50.840 --> 1:09:53.200 a big piece of magazine like that with the writing 1:09:53.240 --> 1:09:55.680 and everything. I mean, there was some amazing pieces in there, 1:09:55.720 --> 1:09:58.120 and that's why I don't want people to think of college. No, no, No, 1:09:58.520 --> 1:10:01.160 they did some amazing stuff. I just think that there's 1:10:01.200 --> 1:10:04.040 a split between the streets in college that kind of 1:10:05.120 --> 1:10:07.360 hip hop had a lot to do with. It was 1:10:07.400 --> 1:10:10.240 a split, and I just felt like, you know, I 1:10:10.320 --> 1:10:11.960 tell the story again all the time, you know, like 1:10:12.120 --> 1:10:13.880 a little brother. They gave them four and a half 1:10:13.880 --> 1:10:16.679 and then they gave Jesus First album three, and I'm like, wow, 1:10:16.800 --> 1:10:19.000 how how could you give them three? Because they didn't 1:10:19.040 --> 1:10:22.479 understand trap music. They don't understand the streets. So it's 1:10:22.520 --> 1:10:25.599 not fair for people to rate something that you don't 1:10:25.680 --> 1:10:28.320 understand it. And that's just what I always felt like, 1:10:28.479 --> 1:10:31.760 that's you know what I'm saying. You know, so I 1:10:31.840 --> 1:10:41.240 probably deserved five because the college niggas I knew, I 1:10:41.360 --> 1:10:46.680 just couldn't hind pointed. Now, So, um, you got got 1:10:46.760 --> 1:10:53.759 the sauce. You moved to Miami, Miami, start, you started 1:10:53.800 --> 1:10:57.960 hip hop weekly, then all of a sudden, pack your bags, 1:10:58.840 --> 1:11:03.080 you moved to Atlanta, which is um not abnormal for 1:11:03.360 --> 1:11:08.040 people in our industry. But what was abnormal was for 1:11:08.240 --> 1:11:11.120 us to see Miss you know who we looked at 1:11:11.240 --> 1:11:15.800 as street guy, gangster to go on a reality television show, 1:11:16.200 --> 1:11:18.160 but not only going to get you got the other lighter? 1:11:18.200 --> 1:11:20.360 Come on, you ain't come my lighters over here? All right, 1:11:20.439 --> 1:11:22.320 let's do it. So come on, actually got the other 1:11:22.320 --> 1:11:24.840 one right there and watching watching on your light of thieves, 1:11:24.920 --> 1:11:30.920 my nigger, I'm on point, thank you. So um so, 1:11:31.680 --> 1:11:35.519 what makes you even not only get into a reality show? 1:11:36.040 --> 1:11:40.200 I mean I know, but okay recently, but you actually 1:11:40.439 --> 1:11:42.639 it looked like from where the peers from the outside 1:11:42.680 --> 1:11:45.960 of looking in, um, it appeared. Look, he was actually 1:11:46.000 --> 1:11:49.519 looking for love like when you first joined. Uh yeah, 1:11:49.600 --> 1:11:52.000 I think I think you know, I was, I was single, 1:11:52.920 --> 1:11:54.280 so you know what I'm you know, I mean, I'm 1:11:54.280 --> 1:11:56.960 getting up there in age, so yeah, you know, definitely 1:11:57.080 --> 1:12:00.519 looking for someone that I can rock out. I think 1:12:00.640 --> 1:12:03.439 like having the right partner, you know what I'm saying, 1:12:03.520 --> 1:12:06.200 especially now in this industry, I think you could do 1:12:06.280 --> 1:12:09.320 amazing things, you know what I'm saying. And I felt 1:12:09.360 --> 1:12:12.760 like being on TV who slipped in the tangle. Let's 1:12:13.080 --> 1:12:14.640 be ready? You know he was ready? Yeah? All right, 1:12:14.680 --> 1:12:22.080 come on, are we ready? Baby? Saw a little another 1:12:22.120 --> 1:12:27.439 one another one at another one right there right there. Yeah, 1:12:27.439 --> 1:12:29.519 part of the show. We're putting this Zeno feature in 1:12:29.680 --> 1:12:49.360 the y'all slow solo. I hate It, love it Okay, 1:12:49.439 --> 1:12:57.640 Now I got that. Um were talking about gotta do 1:12:57.680 --> 1:13:06.280 it my left hand. So so the hip hop yea 1:13:06.360 --> 1:13:08.519 love and hip hop? He was looking he was looking 1:13:08.560 --> 1:13:12.720 for love or was that for cameras? I mean you no, 1:13:13.000 --> 1:13:14.960 I was. I was actually like, you know what I'm saying. 1:13:14.960 --> 1:13:17.200 I felt like, first I didn't go on, they're looking 1:13:17.200 --> 1:13:19.000 for like I went on and just giving Stevie advice. 1:13:19.080 --> 1:13:21.400 They heard me talk. I was driving Stevie to the set. 1:13:22.080 --> 1:13:25.719 He had his mike mike on on. They were still listening. 1:13:25.880 --> 1:13:28.880 He came. We smoking weed in the car between his takes, 1:13:29.439 --> 1:13:31.240 and he was at that time he was like he 1:13:31.400 --> 1:13:36.400 was caught between the two. And I'm like, say it 1:13:36.479 --> 1:13:55.200 with me. I could be a monoga come from Like, 1:13:56.520 --> 1:14:00.280 so that's so, so you started and then so your 1:14:00.320 --> 1:14:05.800 first love interest was Carlie rad got your question. I 1:14:05.840 --> 1:14:13.320 mean this was on the show. I was like your questions. No, 1:14:13.439 --> 1:14:16.240 but you wanted to be talking about loving hip hop. 1:14:16.479 --> 1:14:19.120 Drink of course. Man. Yeah, I'm the biggest love of 1:14:19.200 --> 1:14:21.559 hip hop fan. I'm gonna be honest. We had our 1:14:21.560 --> 1:14:23.800 whole episode. That's just the new Jerry Springer. You know, 1:14:23.840 --> 1:14:25.600 I stopped watching Jerry Springer because I watched Love of 1:14:25.680 --> 1:14:29.320 Hip Hop Let's go, and I'll be watching Jerry Springer 1:14:29.320 --> 1:14:31.120 for eighteen years. How about that? You know what I'm 1:14:31.120 --> 1:14:34.760 saying to the spot ahead. So um, yeah, so that 1:14:34.840 --> 1:14:37.280 was your first love interest right now? That was not 1:14:37.439 --> 1:14:41.040 for the camera like that was like, well we started 1:14:41.120 --> 1:14:45.080 dating before I got on Love and Hip Hop. I 1:14:45.240 --> 1:14:48.879 was again bringing Stevie to the mean Stevie staying together uplana, 1:14:49.479 --> 1:14:51.120 you know what I'm saying, bringing them to the set 1:14:51.520 --> 1:14:53.439 because Carlie was cool with Johnson at the time. I 1:14:53.560 --> 1:14:55.519 don't know. I just met her off set and she 1:14:55.680 --> 1:14:57.439 was like, you know, we was hoppling and then we 1:14:57.920 --> 1:15:01.080 hooked up and then and then know next thing, you know, 1:15:01.120 --> 1:15:02.479 I get a call like what if your day? And 1:15:02.640 --> 1:15:05.559 Momona had called on like if your day in somebody 1:15:05.560 --> 1:15:08.160 from the you know, you should come on. I was like, Okay, 1:15:08.280 --> 1:15:10.880 that's that's how that's how, that's how it happened. And 1:15:10.960 --> 1:15:13.599 then I felt like I felt like, I'm on TV. 1:15:14.240 --> 1:15:17.840 She's cool. Why not? I felt like maybe she's at 1:15:17.880 --> 1:15:19.599 the age where she didn't want to bullshit no more. 1:15:19.600 --> 1:15:21.360 Because I'm at the age whe I don't want to bullshit. 1:15:21.720 --> 1:15:24.920 I feel see, I feel like if I feel like, 1:15:25.000 --> 1:15:26.640 it's not like, you know, you have to find that 1:15:26.720 --> 1:15:29.040 special person. But I'm so grounded and I know what 1:15:29.120 --> 1:15:30.720 I want and what I don't want now is that 1:15:31.160 --> 1:15:33.880 I feel like, if you know, I could get with 1:15:34.000 --> 1:15:36.120 a person, if they just have a good heart and everything, 1:15:36.520 --> 1:15:38.439 it's not too like I can get along with anybody 1:15:38.520 --> 1:15:40.920 at this point in my life. At that point, I 1:15:41.080 --> 1:15:43.519 was ready. You know what I'm saying. She wasn't ready. 1:15:43.560 --> 1:15:46.800 So what made you not because she wasn't ready? You no, No, 1:15:46.920 --> 1:15:49.200 you didn't give her a ring? Yeah, because she cheated? 1:15:49.640 --> 1:15:56.760 Oh on an episode in real life too, but I 1:15:59.400 --> 1:16:04.599 was very real. Hold on, hold on, she didn't set 1:16:04.640 --> 1:16:07.120 on the show though in real life she cheated. Oh, 1:16:07.160 --> 1:16:08.720 but you didn't say that on the show, because on 1:16:08.760 --> 1:16:11.680 the show you just closed. Well. I just remember. I 1:16:11.800 --> 1:16:15.360 just remember it, like I remember you was staying together. 1:16:16.280 --> 1:16:18.519 She coming in mad early. I'm like, listen, you just 1:16:18.600 --> 1:16:20.280 can't be coming in mad early. I don't know if 1:16:20.280 --> 1:16:23.000 you think just for TV, but I'm just not gonna 1:16:23.080 --> 1:16:24.640 keep going with this, you know what I'm saying. In 1:16:24.760 --> 1:16:27.200 real life, coming in early, like like five and five, 1:16:27.320 --> 1:16:29.560 six in the morning. Then after that there was some 1:16:29.600 --> 1:16:31.519 ship on the blogs that she was sucking niggers. Now, 1:16:31.520 --> 1:16:34.880 I'm gonna be honest, I like when I wasn't. I 1:16:35.000 --> 1:16:38.280 wasn't devastated though, so so I was like, oh my god. 1:16:38.360 --> 1:16:40.840 I just I just was like, okay, hold up, hold up, 1:16:41.000 --> 1:16:43.280 since you're not ready, then I just want to break 1:16:43.320 --> 1:16:46.120 this off. It wasn't no disrespect against her. I just 1:16:46.320 --> 1:16:48.240 was like, I don't want to look like no fool 1:16:48.800 --> 1:16:50.920 if we're not on the same page, you know what 1:16:50.960 --> 1:16:54.840 I'm saying. And so that's when I was I told 1:16:55.160 --> 1:16:57.640 the producers, I'm not doing the ring thing. You know 1:16:57.640 --> 1:16:59.880 what I'm saying. I probably was gonna get engaged to 1:17:00.360 --> 1:17:01.680 you know what I'm saying, and try to try to 1:17:01.760 --> 1:17:04.200 do something with her. Have our own show, do our 1:17:04.240 --> 1:17:06.280 own know what I'm saying. We're on TV. Let's you 1:17:06.320 --> 1:17:08.680 know what I'm saying. That's like people want to see love. 1:17:08.720 --> 1:17:10.639 You know why I love and hip hop is probably popular, 1:17:10.960 --> 1:17:14.680 you know what I'm saying, because people are going through 1:17:14.720 --> 1:17:16.840 these things. Man, you know what I'm saying. When and 1:17:16.920 --> 1:17:20.479 when I came on, I didn't mess with two women 1:17:20.560 --> 1:17:23.400 at a time on love and hip hop ever ever, Okay, 1:17:24.080 --> 1:17:25.760 so women looked at that, and you know, because I 1:17:25.840 --> 1:17:28.040 didn't want I wasn't gonna do that, Like I'm not 1:17:28.080 --> 1:17:30.880 gonna go on and date two different chicks on it 1:17:31.280 --> 1:17:33.080 was a little bit of a little bit of bandy 1:17:33.160 --> 1:17:35.479 at one point. No, it was Callie. Carlie was out 1:17:35.479 --> 1:17:38.840 of the picture. Me and baby started days. Okay, Yeah, 1:17:39.040 --> 1:17:43.800 she was gone after No there no, no, there isn't 1:17:43.840 --> 1:17:52.920 there isn't there no, there isn't. But I love it 1:17:53.000 --> 1:17:55.559 hip hop. See but I love it hip hop. They'll 1:17:55.600 --> 1:17:59.120 set it up now to where you're chilling at dinner. Yeah, baby, 1:17:59.200 --> 1:18:05.320 the here she comes. No, like, I'm just not with that. 1:18:05.680 --> 1:18:12.680 I love you that, I don't you know me, I'm like, 1:18:14.320 --> 1:18:16.519 I'm not with that all day. Right, I'm not with 1:18:16.600 --> 1:18:20.840 the face out here knocking too chicks down. No, but 1:18:20.920 --> 1:18:22.639 look at look at no No, no, I gota front. 1:18:22.680 --> 1:18:24.920 We are entering a different zone right now where a 1:18:24.960 --> 1:18:28.320 lot of ships being tolerated. I just I just I 1:18:28.479 --> 1:18:31.680 just know me. I don't mean where I'm at now. 1:18:32.200 --> 1:18:40.960 I only have them for one Yeah, I can't, I can't, okay, right, 1:18:41.120 --> 1:18:49.240 all right, right, all right, right, right right, there's nothing 1:18:49.520 --> 1:18:51.320 at all. Wait what did she say? I'm sorry, I'm 1:18:53.600 --> 1:18:59.840 the main one? And then woman right, woman, right right, 1:19:00.080 --> 1:19:08.200 tell me I'm a woman, our bird down, but you 1:19:08.280 --> 1:19:11.200 still want some side playing. No, I think you're talking 1:19:11.200 --> 1:19:17.479 about female all right, right, damn, I don't know. I 1:19:17.600 --> 1:19:23.280 still much to enjoy your fucking hip you know, still 1:19:23.840 --> 1:19:30.160 like yeah, so you're gonna let him get That's what 1:19:32.320 --> 1:19:39.240 my authority as your woman. You don't make you fun? Right, 1:19:41.000 --> 1:19:56.920 that's oh right right right now, kidding she got got 1:20:02.240 --> 1:20:13.559 sunny whisper something like, just got real he crilly never 1:20:14.680 --> 1:20:18.360 that's dope. So I just don't me. I don't have 1:20:18.560 --> 1:20:20.719 look here, look I don't I never was a nigger 1:20:20.720 --> 1:20:22.720 while I wanted chicks fighting on me. In real life, 1:20:22.760 --> 1:20:25.360 I'm just a real low key nigger, like I've messed 1:20:25.360 --> 1:20:27.200 with a lot of celebrities. The reason why people don't 1:20:27.240 --> 1:20:29.240 know because I was a low key nigga. You know 1:20:29.240 --> 1:20:31.760 what I'm saying, like so on on on on love 1:20:31.840 --> 1:20:34.400 and hip hop. I'm not gonna put myself in positions 1:20:34.760 --> 1:20:37.920 to be getting popped upside the head and who you 1:20:37.960 --> 1:20:41.160 know what I'm saying, I'm not I'm not all right, 1:20:41.160 --> 1:20:47.800 we got an accident. I don't want that. Yeah that 1:20:51.320 --> 1:21:08.559 I got you. That was real, man, baby, because drinking. 1:21:08.840 --> 1:21:11.080 Oh yeah, I'm drinking. Brother, I'm not drinking. I'm ready 1:21:11.080 --> 1:21:15.880 for another shot to you. Ready, three dreams, lucky number 1:21:15.920 --> 1:21:21.680 that we can split that up. Let's lose. Oh no, no, no, 1:21:21.760 --> 1:21:23.920 no no, you might just stick chams. Don't be having 1:21:24.000 --> 1:21:26.640 like mad tiger bone. Yeah my crib. I don't like 1:21:26.720 --> 1:21:30.519 to bring it. Yeah, yes, split with your girl, split 1:21:30.640 --> 1:21:35.439 with checker out, yes, spit, split it half and half 1:21:35.479 --> 1:21:43.840 with girt. Okay, yeah, a woman? Sorry? So what's your 1:21:43.920 --> 1:21:46.719 name again? From New York? Okay, my name is Anika Na. 1:21:47.800 --> 1:21:49.840 That's like Nicki Mina's real name too, right now from 1:21:49.920 --> 1:21:57.080 Hustling So okay, okay, all right, I'm an artist, artist, 1:21:57.560 --> 1:21:59.479 and I'm already gonna feel bulls because I already seen 1:21:59.520 --> 1:22:11.439 in a future. So that being sad, yea, it's a 1:22:11.520 --> 1:22:13.280 good day. All right, let me get some I'll take 1:22:13.320 --> 1:22:17.680 a shot with y'all with man, motherfucking long time. No 1:22:20.479 --> 1:22:23.559 other one. You don't you know? You know the other one? 1:22:23.720 --> 1:22:30.720 The other one? Yeah, yes, yeah, the other one. Yeah, 1:22:30.760 --> 1:22:35.760 there we go. There. It's a Colombian white. Yeah, bad, 1:22:36.240 --> 1:22:38.720 I'm feeling the saucy right now. I'm gonna lie as 1:22:38.760 --> 1:22:43.960 you should. Yeah, I'm doing this shot with y'all. Y'all smoke. No, 1:22:45.400 --> 1:22:49.280 he just harry on the weekend. On the weekend, I 1:22:49.360 --> 1:22:53.160 got no tracks though, Salo, Salo, where's yours? You took it? 1:22:53.240 --> 1:22:56.840 You took it already, it's Done's gonna make talkable. Let's 1:22:56.840 --> 1:22:58.800 take a shout and do say that other There you go, girl, 1:22:59.360 --> 1:23:01.800 that's a riding right there. Actually gonna let you smash 1:23:01.880 --> 1:23:14.400 other people. God, damn man good rible solid. Oh yeah, 1:23:15.000 --> 1:23:24.559 all right, well manahay, I'm not I'm not gonna lie. 1:23:24.600 --> 1:23:28.200 You know this is stove yea. And even though it's 1:23:28.240 --> 1:23:30.880 a third time, right because the second time, the third 1:23:30.920 --> 1:23:35.560 time we went to the fourth time, I was h 1:23:36.760 --> 1:23:42.160 for the for the baby niggas, damn you broke yep. Yeah, yeah, 1:23:42.720 --> 1:23:44.960 you're drink champel. You gotta get your chain next time. 1:23:46.120 --> 1:23:51.360 The documentary already said, give me a chain. It's gonna 1:23:51.360 --> 1:23:56.439 be the Dominican chain like this gonna be like I 1:23:56.520 --> 1:23:59.000 just want to get out the vote one time. Come on, 1:24:00.000 --> 1:24:07.000 you don't want Yeah, pick up the cool in the 1:24:07.040 --> 1:24:12.040 building as well. Google yeah, I mean that's my come on, 1:24:13.160 --> 1:24:20.200 my boy, my Boston family nugs without nugs, he drink 1:24:20.280 --> 1:24:23.880 cancer dugs should have a T shirt going ten years strong? 1:24:26.080 --> 1:24:31.800 Wait what do you say? Inside? So alright? So not 1:24:31.800 --> 1:24:36.200 I loving hip hop? Now you become adapted because TV 1:24:36.400 --> 1:24:40.640 famous different from you know, the magazine World World telling you, man, 1:24:41.360 --> 1:24:42.960 it is nothing to me. I'll just be like I 1:24:43.080 --> 1:24:45.599 like to smoke weed, I like to talk. Said, I don't. 1:24:45.640 --> 1:24:47.479 I don't even that ship is. I don't. I'm telling you, 1:24:47.520 --> 1:24:49.920 I don't be seeing it. It's cool when people know you. 1:24:50.120 --> 1:24:52.960 Sometimes it's a pain of ask I'm saying, But it's 1:24:53.000 --> 1:24:55.880 love always, So I don't look at it. Man, telling 1:24:55.920 --> 1:24:59.040 you I'd be I'd be always thinking the next way 1:24:59.080 --> 1:25:01.240 to get the next bag. I always got things to 1:25:01.360 --> 1:25:05.640 him do I got bills, court payments, child support? You know, 1:25:05.680 --> 1:25:07.559 I don't know. I mean that celebrities ship is, um, 1:25:08.400 --> 1:25:14.479 that's a that's a that's a mirage. That's a fucking mirage. 1:25:15.120 --> 1:25:17.320 You know, that's like it's not there. You know what 1:25:17.360 --> 1:25:19.839 I'm saying. Like, it's cool if you want to feel special, 1:25:20.280 --> 1:25:22.120 you know what I'm saying, Because people think it's special. 1:25:22.240 --> 1:25:24.640 But if they already think you special? Then why you 1:25:24.680 --> 1:25:27.960 gotta feel special? Why don't you just be cool and 1:25:28.080 --> 1:25:30.000 just be the way you are. I don't want to 1:25:30.040 --> 1:25:32.000 be like a because when you look at the real 1:25:32.080 --> 1:25:36.280 type of celebrities, like the attitudes fund up. I don't 1:25:36.280 --> 1:25:47.800 want to put the poxide in. He didn't do this 1:25:47.920 --> 1:25:55.320 to nas. Now you're shout out to nas man, but 1:25:55.479 --> 1:26:06.360 damn left right, just what it's real. It's real. Like 1:26:06.520 --> 1:26:10.800 you know, I know for years, bro, you have you 1:26:10.880 --> 1:26:12.759 had the dump paste on too when you first sposed 1:26:12.760 --> 1:26:14.400 to the bench and he was like, yeah, I said, 1:26:14.520 --> 1:26:19.920 thinking like Derek zu Land and I called you too, 1:26:19.920 --> 1:26:21.320 and that's how I knew I could talk you out 1:26:21.360 --> 1:26:23.040 of it. He was like, you see, I'm killing him. 1:26:25.080 --> 1:26:27.320 I about to say he did kill He said, you see, 1:26:27.400 --> 1:26:32.679 I'm killing him, young swag. I say, see, I can't 1:26:33.320 --> 1:26:35.840 out of it. Look, I just reworded. I forgot, I 1:26:35.920 --> 1:26:37.840 forget who I seen I was. I've seen somebody. I 1:26:37.880 --> 1:26:41.519 was like, Yeah'm gonna try to hmm. It had to 1:26:41.520 --> 1:26:43.519 be like Chris Brown. Caye think it might have been 1:26:43.560 --> 1:26:52.599 Chris Brown told you you tell kinetically. I think it was, yeah, tellically, tellically. 1:26:53.120 --> 1:26:57.920 Chris Brown shout of Chris Brown, man, Chris Brown, greed 1:26:58.080 --> 1:27:03.439 and everything, and then nigger changes next day. It hurt me. 1:27:03.680 --> 1:27:06.679 Hurt me, It hurt me. Chris row it up. But okay, 1:27:07.040 --> 1:27:13.560 so now you you're going through this transition and you 1:27:15.240 --> 1:27:17.719 isn't the time we had to choose? Like you can't 1:27:17.760 --> 1:27:20.760 say something? When you start talking like that, that's when 1:27:20.760 --> 1:27:23.800 you're like, you're serious CNN Mari Shaffer like like when 1:27:23.840 --> 1:27:25.479 you just did that, I know as you do that, 1:27:25.520 --> 1:27:27.680 it's like, okay, time gets seriously, Yeah, I got your 1:27:27.720 --> 1:27:35.240 back like that. So so because because you know, the 1:27:35.320 --> 1:27:37.920 thing is it's a facade, like you know, the love 1:27:37.960 --> 1:27:40.280 of hip hop crowd like that's that's that's a six 1:27:40.439 --> 1:27:45.800 seven million people watching per week. Correct my numbers off, 1:27:46.120 --> 1:27:48.960 you're absolutely correct. So so you're going from that where 1:27:49.000 --> 1:27:56.000 you're basically behind the scenes in the sauce partner, still 1:27:56.080 --> 1:27:58.679 behind the scenes, going from behind the scenes going straight 1:27:58.720 --> 1:28:00.920 to the front line. How was the difference from that? 1:28:00.960 --> 1:28:02.760 And then how did you do? What about? What about? 1:28:02.800 --> 1:28:04.720 I had a couple of hit records. He's talking about 1:28:05.000 --> 1:28:09.760 what I'm saying, even the music, it's music I don't know, 1:28:16.320 --> 1:28:19.240 but even the music, even the TV fame is different 1:28:19.240 --> 1:28:22.719 from music fame. You can't compare video or hit record 1:28:22.760 --> 1:28:24.960 to love and hip hop fame was big. That's the 1:28:25.040 --> 1:28:27.719 biggest that the TV fame was. I didn't even expect 1:28:27.800 --> 1:28:30.439 that's going seven million every day, I think seven millions 1:28:30.520 --> 1:28:32.160 to this day. To this day, I can't go no 1:28:32.439 --> 1:28:36.760 hood nowhere, like everybody's auntie trying to holler at me, 1:28:37.240 --> 1:28:40.000 trying to take you down. Everybody's auntie. You know what 1:28:40.040 --> 1:28:42.080 I'm saying, I love it wherever I go to his 1:28:42.160 --> 1:28:49.280 auntie's all over America. What I'm saying America dot Com. 1:28:51.800 --> 1:28:56.240 I'm talking older women sixties and seventies and Walmart would 1:28:56.240 --> 1:28:57.920 be like, I love you with Walker, you know how 1:28:58.040 --> 1:29:00.120 like you know what the oldest lady ever took thet 1:29:00.200 --> 1:29:03.120 keep it real, keeping the oldest lady you ever took down? 1:29:03.160 --> 1:29:04.800 You like you took down a seventy nine year old 1:29:04.920 --> 1:29:09.560 nothing night year old. My god, I'm gonna keep it. 1:29:11.080 --> 1:29:13.240 I'm gonna keep it one. What's the oldest I like 1:29:13.400 --> 1:29:15.640 younger women, okay, but what's the oldest you had an 1:29:15.680 --> 1:29:21.160 old night? Um? Everyone had an old night? Maybe forty something, 1:29:21.880 --> 1:29:28.280 forty Come on, I'm telling disappointment have you have you 1:29:28.360 --> 1:29:30.760 have you you? You have scraped the sixty ye old. 1:29:31.120 --> 1:29:33.280 I had a big night. I have an old night. 1:29:33.320 --> 1:29:34.559 I had a big night. I had a big night 1:29:34.640 --> 1:29:39.680 one night, six biggest size a biggert age. Had to 1:29:39.720 --> 1:29:41.840 take one for the team, had to take one team 1:29:41.880 --> 1:29:43.840 didn't know but you're forty. How old were you when? 1:29:44.000 --> 1:29:48.000 When it was forty? Probably was like, like, I mean, 1:29:48.000 --> 1:29:53.680 I've been old a long time, been a while, so 1:29:53.800 --> 1:29:56.160 it doesn't matter. Like I just don't you know, there's 1:29:56.200 --> 1:29:57.679 nothing like you know what I'm saying. I'm not saying 1:29:57.680 --> 1:30:00.800 that I wouldn't. There's some beautiful the women out there, 1:30:00.920 --> 1:30:03.760 some Cruger's Cruger's out there, A cougar. I just I 1:30:03.840 --> 1:30:08.559 just you prefer um, younger woman. What is the male 1:30:08.720 --> 1:30:13.000 version of Kruger? The male version of cougar? Um? I 1:30:13.120 --> 1:30:27.720 guess I'm the black panther. That's definitely not any cause 1:30:30.040 --> 1:30:37.240 Daddy Sugar Daddy should Daddy Sugar Daddy is somebody who 1:30:37.240 --> 1:30:39.880 takes care to young chick. You can't be taking care. 1:30:40.240 --> 1:30:42.680 I'm done with that. If you listen, let me tell 1:30:42.680 --> 1:30:46.320 you something. I've given gifts. I've done a lot for women. 1:30:46.360 --> 1:30:48.360 If we heard you, boy, cars and all that. That 1:30:48.479 --> 1:30:50.920 was a real nigger ship. I bought cars and juice. 1:30:50.960 --> 1:30:56.680 Make some noise for godjam. That's so, that's all for 1:30:56.760 --> 1:30:59.599 the record, that's all. If your mom, if your month, 1:30:59.640 --> 1:31:03.200 if you're queen, you nothing you can't get. There's nothing 1:31:03.280 --> 1:31:05.519 you can't get. But as far as just to be 1:31:05.720 --> 1:31:07.800 like just dating and just like you know what I 1:31:07.880 --> 1:31:10.559 mean now, like because the worst thing is you spend 1:31:10.600 --> 1:31:14.320 all this money and then she's gone, come on, the 1:31:14.439 --> 1:31:26.320 worst part is, yeah, you're stuff. Ain't you gonna have anything? 1:31:26.520 --> 1:31:29.160 Somebody else? And then tell you about it? And you 1:31:29.240 --> 1:31:32.240 know how she's supposed to go tell me about that wife? No? 1:31:33.200 --> 1:31:40.800 How right and right, don't don't don't, don't do it. 1:31:41.800 --> 1:31:54.120 Don't do it right, Sonny ten Mike's cri crill, crill. 1:31:55.000 --> 1:31:59.280 That's whatever he's going going that way, Tim, Mike, take 1:31:59.320 --> 1:32:01.760 another shot on the SA No, no, no, we got 1:32:02.160 --> 1:32:04.160 Let's do at can you for the moment with some 1:32:04.240 --> 1:32:07.800 surrid Yes, come on, I got surprised is the best. 1:32:09.479 --> 1:32:12.400 Let's go to class sold their guys, can they take 1:32:12.400 --> 1:32:14.600 a shot. Ain't gonna do with you? Nig Let do 1:32:14.640 --> 1:32:29.880 it good? It's about you about about about yes, I 1:32:30.000 --> 1:32:41.800 got saloo about. Come on, we have come to you. Listen, man, 1:32:43.040 --> 1:32:50.400 we are celebrating you tonight. We are celebrating you, Tonite 1:32:50.800 --> 1:32:57.479 and Anika. Let's he's a real slow slow slow. That's 1:32:57.560 --> 1:33:14.640 clear being around the legend. That's right, so zeno so 1:33:15.120 --> 1:33:21.320 she'll night. Damn that escalated quickly he comes on, come on, 1:33:22.120 --> 1:33:26.479 are you are you bringing up old ship? He's like, 1:33:26.600 --> 1:33:30.120 no revolt, I'm not here. You did I'll swim with 1:33:30.160 --> 1:33:34.960 cool never they never had beef, always love just did 1:33:35.000 --> 1:33:37.120 you know me? And did he? This song together it's 1:33:37.160 --> 1:33:40.720 called Who's Been Seen Him? Yeah? And what he? No? No, 1:33:40.800 --> 1:33:44.120 you did the ad lit but it jog that's did 1:33:44.240 --> 1:33:50.519 he falls? That's the diddy cam. Right. They get to 1:33:50.560 --> 1:33:52.439 see every episode and they get the big which ones 1:33:52.479 --> 1:33:58.560 they picked up? But this is the watermelon is like 1:33:58.600 --> 1:34:01.360 the greatest. Let me tell you about surrock. Remember on 1:34:02.760 --> 1:34:06.360 the first summer day, on the frest summer day, noticed 1:34:06.400 --> 1:34:17.240 that ship. That's that ship. Can can we do a safety? 1:34:17.280 --> 1:34:21.920 We need to know another one. So now all right, 1:34:22.080 --> 1:34:23.439 let's go to Sugar Night. Then I'm gonna go to 1:34:23.560 --> 1:34:26.800 rock the party. But sure knight, you guys are throwing 1:34:26.840 --> 1:34:32.400 this award show right, we're in New York City. Suge 1:34:32.439 --> 1:34:35.960 Knight is told to present the award or he's giving 1:34:35.960 --> 1:34:37.760 an award. I forget how that's going. Then they win 1:34:37.760 --> 1:34:41.960 an award. He didn't over year or something like that. 1:34:42.240 --> 1:34:44.960 Oh no, I'm not sure. I just remember him just 1:34:45.080 --> 1:34:47.760 going up there and saying what he said, niggas don't 1:34:47.760 --> 1:34:51.080 remember about the award. That's what's so iconic about the moment. 1:34:51.240 --> 1:34:54.880 Nobody remembers nothing about that. You just remember the moment. 1:34:54.960 --> 1:34:58.759 The moment was during New York. They had about forty 1:35:00.040 --> 1:35:04.040 bloods and crypts and in the audience it probably was 1:35:04.120 --> 1:35:06.400 probably was the first time that's ever happened in New York, 1:35:06.439 --> 1:35:11.000 New York. So you know, you you automatically thinking it's 1:35:11.040 --> 1:35:14.240 going down at some point, you know what I'm saying, 1:35:14.680 --> 1:35:16.400 it's just when That's why I was like, it's just 1:35:16.520 --> 1:35:18.880 a matter of time. But when he once he said that, 1:35:19.000 --> 1:35:20.840 then that's when I was like, oh, yeah, it's going down. 1:35:21.560 --> 1:35:24.720 But I think I think I think Snoop. I think 1:35:24.800 --> 1:35:28.519 Snoop's moment was the moment because because when Snoop grabbed it, 1:35:28.640 --> 1:35:32.400 people thought his attitude and his demeanor was that he 1:35:32.960 --> 1:35:34.760 was getting ready to say fun New York. He was 1:35:35.720 --> 1:35:39.000 like he foxed with New York. I don't know where 1:35:39.000 --> 1:35:41.919 I'm at, like right there, and then it kind of confused. 1:35:43.040 --> 1:35:45.479 At that moment, it was like wait a minute, that 1:35:45.640 --> 1:35:46.960 was ready to like and it was like, oh ship, 1:35:47.080 --> 1:35:48.519 like he just he just kind of you know what 1:35:48.520 --> 1:35:51.240 I'm saying. It was almost like he's so so so 1:35:51.400 --> 1:35:54.640 I think that moment. I think that moment was I 1:35:54.760 --> 1:35:57.320 think I think because of Snoop. You know what I'm saying. 1:35:57.439 --> 1:35:59.640 It didn't it didn't go crazy. It didn't get to 1:35:59.720 --> 1:36:03.799 where probably could have. Um, I was backstage when it happened. 1:36:04.280 --> 1:36:06.519 And you know, I mean, think about it. These niggas 1:36:06.520 --> 1:36:09.439 just haven't made your beef. So you know what I'm saying. 1:36:09.439 --> 1:36:12.240 When you think about it, it was kind of light. 1:36:12.720 --> 1:36:14.800 You know what I'm saying. I've seen worse. Ship. You 1:36:14.840 --> 1:36:17.400 know what I'm saying. You know you know what I mean, Like, 1:36:17.560 --> 1:36:20.000 I mean, those words are famous when you know, all 1:36:20.120 --> 1:36:22.320 up in the videos. But I don't want to say 1:36:22.360 --> 1:36:25.160 that because I funk with did he No, No, that's okay. 1:36:25.240 --> 1:36:30.599 He enjoys the history. He spoke about this on him. Yeah, really, 1:36:31.520 --> 1:36:33.240 what do you say about it? He actually said that 1:36:33.360 --> 1:36:35.040 it was Jermaine Duprit that he thought he was talking 1:36:35.040 --> 1:36:41.160 about that. He said that we could go flat on 1:36:41.320 --> 1:36:47.760 and said, that's not exactly different thing about did he did. 1:36:47.800 --> 1:36:49.840 He's a motherfucker what he did. He could say some 1:36:49.920 --> 1:36:54.720 ship like that, like everybody was talking about. Let me, 1:36:54.800 --> 1:36:58.519 let me retract my statement. He said. He said that 1:36:58.640 --> 1:37:01.800 he stepped the show, and Shook said that to him. 1:37:02.360 --> 1:37:04.960 He said, Shook said, I was not talking about you, 1:37:05.240 --> 1:37:07.880 I was talking about Jamaine dupri Oh. He said that 1:37:08.200 --> 1:37:13.080 that's what said. Wow, that's a big piece I didn't 1:37:13.080 --> 1:37:15.439 know that. Yeah, that's what he said. We could flash back. 1:37:16.040 --> 1:37:18.880 That's a big piece of news right there, because yeah, 1:37:18.880 --> 1:37:20.920 if he's if that's what if that happened, then you know. 1:37:21.080 --> 1:37:23.599 But then Jamine dupri was saying that wasn't the case. 1:37:24.920 --> 1:37:28.400 He don't know what if they spoke. You know, his story, 1:37:28.520 --> 1:37:31.760 my story, everybody's story. You know what I'm saying. You know, 1:37:32.000 --> 1:37:33.280 at the end of the day, this is why I 1:37:33.320 --> 1:37:35.720 got out of it. That but we had bad Boy 1:37:35.880 --> 1:37:38.320 that did they hold set with all their groups and 1:37:38.439 --> 1:37:40.960 we had motherfucker death Row with all this ship that 1:37:41.120 --> 1:37:43.559 was iconic. The other ship just made it a little, 1:37:43.640 --> 1:37:46.000 you know, because listen, the east and West will kind 1:37:46.040 --> 1:37:48.120 of be from at that time, you know what I'm saying. 1:37:48.479 --> 1:37:50.840 So you know, it could have went a lot worse. 1:37:51.000 --> 1:37:52.760 I think, I think when you think about it and 1:37:52.800 --> 1:37:56.639 you put in perspective, it really wasn't ship. It was cool. 1:37:57.320 --> 1:38:00.360 What do you miss or if if you do at all, 1:38:00.680 --> 1:38:02.040 what do you what do you what do you miss 1:38:02.080 --> 1:38:11.120 most about being part owner of the source? Um? The money? No? No, no, 1:38:12.479 --> 1:38:14.200 I mean, like I said, back then, just the time, 1:38:14.280 --> 1:38:15.439 you know what I mean, like the time. I mean, 1:38:15.479 --> 1:38:17.479 we live in a different time, you know. You know that, 1:38:17.960 --> 1:38:20.240 you know if if you're of age, you know, back 1:38:20.320 --> 1:38:22.960 then it was just it was without computers. Life was 1:38:23.080 --> 1:38:25.160 dope for to meat, you know what I'm saying. It 1:38:25.240 --> 1:38:27.120 was just we was in the streets. People were out 1:38:27.160 --> 1:38:29.559 in the streets. You had things to do. People were 1:38:29.600 --> 1:38:31.880 out in the hoods. People were working with each other 1:38:31.960 --> 1:38:34.920 in the hoods. Everybody's like you could be always like 1:38:35.360 --> 1:38:36.760 was like this. So it's you know what I mean, 1:38:37.160 --> 1:38:40.320 it's just different. I looked at the Rocketfeller Tree one 1:38:40.400 --> 1:38:44.280 day and they like put like these names and they 1:38:44.320 --> 1:38:47.120 put how many people that got put on through Rocketfeller. 1:38:47.479 --> 1:38:49.320 If we could name people that got put on through 1:38:49.320 --> 1:38:52.120 the source. We're talking about Elliott Wilson, We're talking about 1:38:53.240 --> 1:39:00.439 Mike Elliott, other basketball, Chimo Sarrio, We're talking mis uh Rigs, 1:39:03.120 --> 1:39:06.920 the guy that did the Tupac thing. Uh Frank Frank 1:39:07.160 --> 1:39:10.400 he just did the Tupac Uh, the Tupac story, that 1:39:10.479 --> 1:39:16.880 Tupac documentary on A and E. Frank something, Frank Something, Yeah, yeah, 1:39:16.960 --> 1:39:21.880 he produced their um tatari we TV producer. You go 1:39:22.040 --> 1:39:23.720 on and on all over the place. I was like, 1:39:23.800 --> 1:39:26.000 if you had sauce on your resume. Look. Hip hop 1:39:26.040 --> 1:39:29.320 then got so big. These corporations, they only want to 1:39:29.360 --> 1:39:31.960 take them on who they feel is non violent and 1:39:32.160 --> 1:39:34.000 you know, you know college and you know what I'm saying. 1:39:34.040 --> 1:39:36.000 So they're the ones, and God bless them, you know 1:39:36.000 --> 1:39:41.000 what I'm saying. But Frank Frank, Now, so I don't. 1:39:41.040 --> 1:40:04.479 I don't remember Frank Frankie Frank, one of them. Goddamn it, Lisa, 1:40:04.600 --> 1:40:10.679 Frank Alexander, Now, what was your worst cover? You ever made? 1:40:11.960 --> 1:40:17.160 The worst cover ever? One of them was, um, I 1:40:17.320 --> 1:40:19.800 remember we put Gotti on the cover because at that 1:40:19.840 --> 1:40:22.559 that point, everybody so we was already losing the source. 1:40:22.600 --> 1:40:24.880 At that point we knew it. It was just amount 1:40:24.880 --> 1:40:26.600 of time. So one of our last covers was the 1:40:26.720 --> 1:40:31.599 Earth and um at that point phenomenal. Now I didn't 1:40:31.600 --> 1:40:33.800 do too well only because then nobody was you know, 1:40:33.840 --> 1:40:37.560 at that point. See when the Eminem beef, hap was 1:40:37.600 --> 1:40:41.120 saying they smell pussy, when Eminem beef was happening, right, 1:40:41.840 --> 1:40:44.400 so I got cool with y'all and murder, ain't you 1:40:44.439 --> 1:40:46.080 know what I'm saying because we was basically neighbors, Our 1:40:46.160 --> 1:40:49.360 kids grew up together. My niggas and especially a lot 1:40:49.760 --> 1:40:53.280 not just not just job, but it's it's it's all murder. 1:40:53.360 --> 1:40:55.120 Ain't a bunch of niggas, So you know, you know, 1:40:55.160 --> 1:40:57.600 I mean a lot of niggas. So yeah, yeah, you know. 1:40:58.040 --> 1:41:03.360 So um, you know, I felt like I'm beefrom with Eminem. 1:41:03.479 --> 1:41:06.680 The situation Eminel, they're beefrom with fifty you know, it's 1:41:06.760 --> 1:41:11.360 looking like your enemies. My Yeah, it was weird because 1:41:11.439 --> 1:41:13.400 you know when that should happened. This is that's how 1:41:13.479 --> 1:41:18.120 weird shit is. It's how weird shit is. This. This 1:41:18.240 --> 1:41:22.519 is some weird ships. On fifty fourth Street there was 1:41:22.560 --> 1:41:24.920 the Hit factory where they were fifty gone to the 1:41:25.000 --> 1:41:29.320 Beef with job right, I'm at Sony Music. That's on 1:41:29.439 --> 1:41:32.479 fifty four Falso, these are two huge studios in New 1:41:32.560 --> 1:41:35.479 York at the time they both closed down. Yeah, it's 1:41:35.520 --> 1:41:37.559 on the same street. It was on the saying you've 1:41:37.600 --> 1:41:40.360 been to both. Remember the Sony hip Hop room was 1:41:40.439 --> 1:41:43.800 downstairs in the basement. Alright, so cool, Jesus said of 1:41:43.880 --> 1:41:46.600 made men smoked cigarettes. So you gotta go outside and 1:41:46.680 --> 1:41:49.400 do everybody shot. When you said get a shot at 1:41:50.600 --> 1:41:57.160 for everybody, you don't be us to leave right now, 1:41:57.320 --> 1:41:59.800 let me to leave it last. I got my look yeah, 1:41:59.840 --> 1:42:05.160 yea yeah continue so so so I guess so Jesus 1:42:05.280 --> 1:42:09.599 is upstairs. Now he brought fifty downstairs to the room 1:42:10.040 --> 1:42:13.400 and I'm playing John Madden when fifty comes up and 1:42:13.479 --> 1:42:15.760 it was like, yo, now what fifty is this? This 1:42:15.920 --> 1:42:21.120 is prior to it was whatever the time that they 1:42:21.200 --> 1:42:24.960 got to the beef at Factory. Yeah, that was after 1:42:25.080 --> 1:42:28.600 the That was after that. Yeah, but I you know, 1:42:28.720 --> 1:42:30.400 I had I had fun with Red Hot Love of 1:42:30.479 --> 1:42:35.479 Tone them you master Tone. Did you know that ninety 1:42:35.560 --> 1:42:38.160 one we was on tour and Niggas was gonna funk 1:42:38.200 --> 1:42:40.840 Red Hot Love of Tone up in North Carolina. And 1:42:41.040 --> 1:42:42.200 you know what I'm saying. I think I was the 1:42:42.280 --> 1:42:45.439 only one with a blink with on tour. Had to 1:42:45.479 --> 1:42:47.280 pull it out and save his life. And he'll tell 1:42:47.320 --> 1:42:50.719 you that, but that's before he was track masters. Saved 1:42:50.760 --> 1:42:53.880 his life. Okay, when we could get around of applause 1:42:53.920 --> 1:43:03.120 for that, save his life, come out, come on, as 1:43:03.160 --> 1:43:04.720 long as that news. You know that, nigga, do not 1:43:04.840 --> 1:43:07.920 pass the blunt, bro. He'll look at that. He'll look look, 1:43:07.960 --> 1:43:10.560 you got another one. He'll look at you and just 1:43:10.680 --> 1:43:13.200 talk to you too, like yo, listen, man, you're like yo, 1:43:13.320 --> 1:43:17.240 pass the fucking weed. You're a bad guy. Give it 1:43:17.240 --> 1:43:19.560 to give it up. She needs it. Come on. So 1:43:20.200 --> 1:43:23.400 so so he got so whatever happened at Hit Factory, 1:43:23.920 --> 1:43:27.080 he ended up running down to the end up ended 1:43:27.160 --> 1:43:29.400 up down at Sony with us who were talking about 1:43:29.439 --> 1:43:33.960 right now. I didn't know John him then. Back then 1:43:34.040 --> 1:43:36.800 it was like you, I'd see we maybe because I 1:43:36.840 --> 1:43:39.840 had rocked the party and you had what what? John 1:43:39.920 --> 1:43:41.640 probably had a song, He got a bunch of them, 1:43:41.720 --> 1:43:47.080 he had all right. So so we're doing a little shows. Holla. 1:43:47.520 --> 1:43:50.160 So we're doing shows and we might see each other 1:43:50.200 --> 1:43:53.439 and we're giving these up the shorthead Bob. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:43:53.439 --> 1:43:55.240 you say we don't like each other, you got your 1:43:56.120 --> 1:43:59.400 so Me and Rud wasn't even cool, you know what 1:43:59.400 --> 1:44:02.439 I'm saying. And then um when he came down, and 1:44:02.520 --> 1:44:04.960 I was like, let's say, fifty was standing over there 1:44:05.320 --> 1:44:08.840 and I'm playing and I'm looking at Jesus like the 1:44:08.880 --> 1:44:12.000 sniggers just bringing Niggs down into the fuse. But it 1:44:12.120 --> 1:44:13.880 was cool, you know what I'm saying. We we kicked it, 1:44:14.120 --> 1:44:15.479 you know what I'm saying. For him, And he showed 1:44:15.479 --> 1:44:18.800 me where I guess he had got stabblished something on 1:44:18.880 --> 1:44:21.240 the side or whatever. And he showed he had a 1:44:22.640 --> 1:44:25.519 little three two or thirty eight and it didn't have 1:44:25.560 --> 1:44:28.040 any shells in it. And he said the nigger he 1:44:28.200 --> 1:44:30.200 was wet, had the gun and the gun fell, but 1:44:30.280 --> 1:44:32.640 it didn't have no bullets in it. And he was 1:44:32.680 --> 1:44:36.559 explaining the situation. And then I ended up calling him 1:44:36.560 --> 1:44:39.760 a car service and I got him, and I think 1:44:39.800 --> 1:44:41.280 he went to Bellevue. He might he might have went 1:44:41.320 --> 1:44:42.800 to the hospital. I really don't know where he went 1:44:42.840 --> 1:44:45.880 after that, right, And that was that was the story. 1:44:46.000 --> 1:44:49.280 But then fast forward, I moved to side the river 1:44:49.439 --> 1:44:52.960 and our kids, my son is with y'all's son, my 1:44:53.080 --> 1:44:56.720 daughters with Joab's daughter, growing up together. I'm beat from 1:44:56.720 --> 1:44:59.519 whatever them he's beat from. So it's just weird how 1:44:59.640 --> 1:45:02.719 ship there's like growing up hip hop real life. It's crazy. 1:45:02.760 --> 1:45:05.240 It's crazy. How how how ship happens? Because me and 1:45:05.320 --> 1:45:08.320 fifty never had no beef, right, you know it was 1:45:08.400 --> 1:45:10.559 with eminem seeing each other in the club the other day, Right, 1:45:10.600 --> 1:45:13.599 I think I seal some footage I was. He actually 1:45:13.640 --> 1:45:16.320 shouted you out. He actually said Benzino's in the building, 1:45:16.760 --> 1:45:19.679 I see you, nigger or something. Yeah, seen footage online. 1:45:19.720 --> 1:45:22.560 I'm on point at my point. Yeah, yeah, nah, no, 1:45:22.720 --> 1:45:24.640 it was you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, 1:45:24.680 --> 1:45:25.800 you know it was you know what I mean, Like, 1:45:26.080 --> 1:45:27.800 I never really had beef with fifty. It was no 1:45:27.880 --> 1:45:29.680 beef with fifty. You know what I'm saying. It's just 1:45:29.800 --> 1:45:32.759 that job was beetrom with fifty and me and job's 1:45:32.800 --> 1:45:35.000 cool a right, you know what I'm saying. All Right, 1:45:35.439 --> 1:45:37.320 that's some real production ship you just did, like why 1:45:37.360 --> 1:45:43.280 we're doing back? Yeah, he just told me to put 1:45:45.920 --> 1:45:50.439 just a real production the other one. What's this? Yeah? 1:45:53.640 --> 1:45:57.320 You just said it's great, So I was great. The 1:45:57.840 --> 1:46:02.840 afternoon when it's time. You can't turn about around. Listen, listen, 1:46:02.960 --> 1:46:07.160 turn about no joke, no joke on a summer afternoon, 1:46:07.560 --> 1:46:11.640 like like all jokes aside, right on summer afternoon when 1:46:11.680 --> 1:46:16.519 it's fun with some concala with a beautiful woman with 1:46:16.640 --> 1:46:25.040 a string bikini on on a beautiful beach. We got 1:46:25.120 --> 1:46:27.040 some of this right, and we got we got what 1:46:27.240 --> 1:46:31.599 we got, so we got right. I feel like it's 1:46:31.640 --> 1:47:06.960 cocaine involved as well, a little bit. You can come now, 1:47:07.000 --> 1:47:09.479 it's gonna keep my ship. I gotta take my some 1:47:09.560 --> 1:47:11.280 on the cameras want to kill you know what, y'all 1:47:11.320 --> 1:47:16.640 need drink champ coasters, the drink so right, that's all right. 1:47:17.840 --> 1:47:19.639 Just just take the stickers and put them on something. 1:47:19.720 --> 1:47:23.479 You know what I'm saying. Drink camp stuff. That'sh you 1:47:23.640 --> 1:47:36.160 fuck me up, ship, let's you know, Pep the smoke champ. Yeah, 1:47:36.240 --> 1:47:38.320 another one. No, you gotta pick this one. You gotta 1:47:38.360 --> 1:47:42.160 smoke this, light that up. That's all. I don't I 1:47:42.200 --> 1:47:44.599 don't do what I'm backwards. Don't do no, No, that's okay. 1:47:44.680 --> 1:47:47.320 They never tape of backwards. This is tobacco freed backward. 1:47:47.600 --> 1:47:49.519 Come on, this is this is our ship. Come on 1:47:50.520 --> 1:47:59.519 the whole boy, trusty house. It's not a dirty right there, 1:48:01.560 --> 1:48:08.040 the catip to the coat. But we're just gonna try 1:48:08.040 --> 1:48:10.080 to trick you. But let that up. Light that up. 1:48:10.680 --> 1:48:13.920 I remember one time I did an interview with Trick. Right, so, 1:48:14.120 --> 1:48:16.120 Trick is next to me and Ship. I'm in Miami 1:48:16.600 --> 1:48:20.320 and he's smoking and we just smoke. Were just just 1:48:20.360 --> 1:48:23.040 smoking and I'm smelling the weed. I'm like, I'm smoking, believe, 1:48:23.040 --> 1:48:24.800 But I noticed that the blunt was real thin, and 1:48:24.880 --> 1:48:27.120 Ship I was like, probably just doing like a lot 1:48:27.160 --> 1:48:30.120 of weeding this blunt. That motherfucker. Let that bitch up. 1:48:30.360 --> 1:48:36.880 I was like, new check New Jack City. Remember the 1:48:36.960 --> 1:48:42.200 part of the basement right there, giving you like, I'm 1:48:42.200 --> 1:48:44.479 gonna keep it one tho. I don't smoke back It's okay. 1:48:44.560 --> 1:48:50.280 Just take a couple of hits. How about that? Yeah, 1:48:56.240 --> 1:49:02.280 that's we didn't there were dude, give us a commercial. 1:49:03.560 --> 1:49:07.559 I'm gonna tell you what it tastes like, the Polar smooth. 1:49:07.600 --> 1:49:10.240 I can't front backwood. I'm kno gonna lie. And there's 1:49:10.240 --> 1:49:11.600 not a backwood. It's a fact of wood. It's a 1:49:11.640 --> 1:49:15.759 fake backwood. And I don't feel dizzy and it's sweet. 1:49:15.960 --> 1:49:21.479 It's because no tobacco. I have little hints of like honey, 1:49:22.000 --> 1:49:24.519 I have hints of sugar, sugar. You know what I'm saying. 1:49:46.920 --> 1:49:48.439 I can't I can't take too many hits in that 1:49:48.520 --> 1:49:51.200 darns on the front. Back to the regular bunk. Let 1:49:51.320 --> 1:49:56.439 get that with my ship. I'm gonna take that back. 1:49:56.520 --> 1:50:01.000 I'm dizzy as fun from that ship right there. Man, 1:50:02.960 --> 1:50:06.880 that commercial that was dope. That was dope. I was 1:50:06.960 --> 1:50:08.840 fucked up. That ain't gonna lie. I got one more 1:50:08.880 --> 1:50:12.280 shot left in me. You crazy. No, he's not even 1:50:12.360 --> 1:50:18.599 drunk livers like. Man, please, we got this. You can 1:50:18.680 --> 1:50:21.320 drink my nigga. No, man, it's all good. Man. So listen. 1:50:22.400 --> 1:50:26.040 You've been throughout the whole industry, right, You've been inside 1:50:27.080 --> 1:50:31.640 backside and hold on, I forgot, hold hold on, hold on, 1:50:31.800 --> 1:50:35.320 hold hold on. Forgot. I meanted to say inside outside. 1:50:35.320 --> 1:50:37.240 I'm sorry, I said backside. No, No, I just gonna 1:50:37.280 --> 1:50:39.040 get my serious face. You've been in you've been in 1:50:39.200 --> 1:50:43.000 culinary arts. If you had to pick one, and I 1:50:43.040 --> 1:50:44.800 don't know we answered that in a different way. You 1:50:44.880 --> 1:50:48.240 said music before, but if you had to it was reality. 1:50:48.320 --> 1:50:53.200 If you had the top, you know, reality person uh 1:50:54.040 --> 1:50:55.960 to produce a show for you right now, or you 1:50:56.040 --> 1:50:59.120 had the top person to uh put you your restaurants. 1:50:59.640 --> 1:51:01.880 I'm just it just like if you had you had 1:51:01.920 --> 1:51:07.479 a choice between what you question, you had the choice 1:51:07.479 --> 1:51:12.920 were doing could be some questions and restaurant or music 1:51:13.000 --> 1:51:17.679 to I would want music. I wouldn't want reality show, 1:51:18.080 --> 1:51:21.760 reality show, reality show over a restaurant. Yeah, because because 1:51:21.800 --> 1:51:23.720 the reality show is gonna show me at my restaurant. 1:51:24.960 --> 1:51:32.040 Ray Kwon voice good kuam voices, because like we'll be 1:51:32.080 --> 1:51:34.400 talking to Ray Kwan, like Ray be serious. They'll be 1:51:34.479 --> 1:51:38.960 like every time we do that, we'd be like boys. 1:51:39.640 --> 1:51:44.200 And where you getting cocaine? Cocaine? Don't you know? You listen, 1:51:44.720 --> 1:51:56.320 you're falling off. Yeah. Oh, let's make some noise for 1:51:56.400 --> 1:52:02.640 that shop. I got out of the gut of I 1:52:02.720 --> 1:52:06.640 got the because you know, man, we celebrate people careers here. Man, 1:52:06.960 --> 1:52:09.280 you know what you've been up here for thirty years? 1:52:09.320 --> 1:52:18.360 Who help wrong? That was a big bigger That wasn't 1:52:18.360 --> 1:52:36.920 a bigger years. It's but today it's about you and 1:52:36.920 --> 1:52:38.960 I'm bigging you up. I'm just saying that there's a 1:52:38.960 --> 1:52:40.400 lot a lot of people who can stand the test 1:52:40.479 --> 1:52:42.840 of time, like you. A lot of people there's not 1:52:42.880 --> 1:52:45.160 a lot of people who can transition pass it back though, 1:52:45.200 --> 1:52:51.960 but just the last one, Listen, there's not a lot 1:52:52.000 --> 1:52:54.880 of people who can transition like you, who can stayd 1:52:54.960 --> 1:52:57.600 tall and not complain and just sit there and just 1:52:57.760 --> 1:53:00.720 find a different way, to find another huss to find 1:53:00.760 --> 1:53:04.800 another way, to find another fucking outlet to eat from. 1:53:04.960 --> 1:53:08.120 From you being a culinary expert, from you know, cooking too, 1:53:08.439 --> 1:53:11.320 you know, being the reality TV to running the whole magazine, 1:53:11.360 --> 1:53:15.680 to running groups, to motherfucking you know doing music, from 1:53:15.760 --> 1:53:18.200 rock the Party to Mario Winners and all that. You've 1:53:18.240 --> 1:53:21.000 got Mario Winers, you know what I mean to to 1:53:21.840 --> 1:53:24.640 he smokes weed and all that. Like the first nig 1:53:24.760 --> 1:53:26.639 to turn me on. The seven different types of weeks 1:53:29.400 --> 1:53:32.639 we went. We went up to the cat skills different 1:53:32.640 --> 1:53:38.840 We went up to cats skill Mountains and stayed there 1:53:38.920 --> 1:53:43.439 for like a month. But NAS recorded there. Oh wow, 1:53:43.840 --> 1:53:47.800 it's a it's it's it's a it's about man. Man, 1:53:47.840 --> 1:53:54.360 that's not cat skills at all. Right, what's right? What's so? So? 1:53:54.640 --> 1:53:56.920 I just held my other student on the day, you 1:53:56.960 --> 1:54:01.720 know that was that? Listen. We did a video and 1:54:01.800 --> 1:54:05.160 we got like thirty shoes, Rendez vous girls up there, 1:54:05.240 --> 1:54:08.040 Me and Mario playing paintball with us for the video 1:54:09.040 --> 1:54:13.800 to Mario free is afraid? What I can't wait to 1:54:13.880 --> 1:54:21.000 tell doing no no listen man, real yeah, real, yeah, 1:54:21.439 --> 1:54:23.840 beast man. Cocaine to the way you look, the way 1:54:23.960 --> 1:54:29.599 you say, way you look that we were sponsible. That's 1:54:29.600 --> 1:54:33.000 how we know. You know you think cocaine? See is 1:54:33.040 --> 1:54:36.120 that your name is Jose I never did. I did 1:54:36.120 --> 1:54:37.920 a lot of Molly though, kind of like you know, 1:54:38.280 --> 1:54:40.280 takes up for it. You never did cocaine never in 1:54:40.400 --> 1:54:42.880 my life. Never did comde my life Puerto Rican not 1:54:43.040 --> 1:54:53.240 even that's you don't like shorter of cocaine. You're not PoCA? Yeah? 1:54:53.480 --> 1:54:56.120 I like, but but I like teaching on and I 1:54:56.240 --> 1:54:59.720 like Molly. How about that? Even Molly is a black drug. 1:55:00.280 --> 1:55:02.720 Hey man, that's your black that's also prejudiced as well. 1:55:02.840 --> 1:55:07.600 It's a black and it was Yeah, I did, he 1:55:07.640 --> 1:55:12.560 did the Cadillacs. You like momyving did. I haven't did 1:55:12.720 --> 1:55:14.520 Molly in three years. But I'm gonna looking at you 1:55:14.600 --> 1:55:16.400 in your face out of a man and man and 1:55:16.480 --> 1:55:19.680 that I'm not gonna tell you Anna not gonna do 1:55:19.840 --> 1:55:22.280 one again no, I like it. I like, how do 1:55:22.320 --> 1:55:25.200 you feel off a Molly? I performed how Star? I 1:55:25.320 --> 1:55:28.680 love it? I love it, I love it. I'm you 1:55:28.760 --> 1:55:32.320 know you do you want eat? No? I don't. You've 1:55:32.400 --> 1:55:34.800 never ate ate around it. I've seen you ate around. 1:55:36.240 --> 1:55:39.160 You ate around the around around what is eating around? 1:55:39.640 --> 1:55:45.160 You know? That's yeah? No, I eat that as on 1:55:45.200 --> 1:55:50.960 the internet. I eat But how did you guys? How 1:55:51.040 --> 1:55:54.920 did that? If it's check that out with how did 1:55:55.000 --> 1:55:58.640 that you eat? As? Never you signed your lot? You 1:55:58.760 --> 1:56:04.280 dirty motherfucker? Do you put barbecue on that episode? You 1:56:04.520 --> 1:56:08.280 never that. I'm not gonna lie. He always said, he don't. 1:56:08.320 --> 1:56:14.760 He asked, but you're putt Yeah, there's no way your 1:56:14.880 --> 1:56:24.160 face like a like about prejudice, I didn't say. No, 1:56:24.640 --> 1:56:26.960 I'm not being credit because of who you are. We 1:56:27.000 --> 1:56:31.120 already knew you man. You oldre your the bottle just 1:56:31.280 --> 1:56:33.960 against Haitians. He's right, that was him. No, No, I'm 1:56:33.960 --> 1:56:38.320 talking about sunny. I'm pretty to getting sunny. You're automatically 1:56:38.520 --> 1:56:42.400 well whatever they say. But I'm just I've never bo 1:56:43.120 --> 1:56:54.760 It's really obviously that you would ask pregatory. No, hold on, 1:56:55.440 --> 1:56:59.200 I ain't hold on. I ain't never heard it yet 1:56:59.640 --> 1:57:13.520 he's your right, your soul. You asked everybody out here, 1:57:13.600 --> 1:57:16.800 weats as put the answer. Come on, let's come man, 1:57:17.600 --> 1:57:22.680 here we go. You probably you got a lot of 1:57:22.760 --> 1:57:33.240 one with you tonight. So I'm going right, human, right, right, 1:57:34.000 --> 1:57:38.600 fucking right. Yea, that's right, that's right. She might eat 1:57:38.640 --> 1:58:04.160 your ask tonight. I think that's good time you out. 1:58:04.240 --> 1:58:08.920 Yet we're about done anyway. I don't mind that. No, 1:58:11.800 --> 1:58:21.360 we don't want that. No, actually smoking and no, just 1:58:21.600 --> 1:58:27.720 ad that's big, that's big. Come on, we're gonna get 1:58:28.000 --> 1:58:37.440 another shot. Come oh ship y'all just sneaking shot. So 1:58:37.600 --> 1:58:46.480 you ready ready? Yeah, I'm not ready. I'm that's your question. 1:58:46.560 --> 1:58:49.800 That's your questions. I mean when when when um TEO 1:58:49.880 --> 1:58:53.760 and Y came out right yes, and and the streets 1:58:53.840 --> 1:58:55.560 was buzzing, the streets, was you know what I'm saying, 1:58:55.760 --> 1:58:58.320 did you fail like this is what you've always dreamed about? 1:58:58.400 --> 1:59:02.240 This is what I'm saying. Was that the moment where music? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 1:59:02.960 --> 1:59:07.840 but what I'm just I'm you finish your question. I'm sorry, no, 1:59:07.960 --> 1:59:10.040 because but no, no, no, but you answered it way 1:59:10.120 --> 1:59:13.560 too fast, okay, because yeah, just tell me that when 1:59:14.160 --> 1:59:16.440 I just want because that was. That was my choint, 1:59:16.520 --> 1:59:18.720 not nigger like that was. I was like, who is 1:59:18.800 --> 1:59:22.160 this nigger? Everybody said, And his voice sounded like a 1:59:22.240 --> 1:59:27.440 Puerto Rican nigga. You know what I'm saying. He sounded. 1:59:27.480 --> 1:59:29.800 He didn't sound like a straight nun. He came in 1:59:29.920 --> 1:59:33.520 like pocan also prejudice because I'm not a straight nigger. 1:59:33.560 --> 1:59:38.320 He just he just said somebodations. Okay, we all prejudice. No, 1:59:38.480 --> 1:59:41.400 you shot your shot. Stop wanting that down the dry 1:59:41.480 --> 1:59:43.520 ass couple do say that. You do not even picsh 1:59:45.800 --> 1:59:49.760 that purpose of the mic. That's drink Champs drink Solottle 1:59:49.800 --> 1:59:54.600 Slottle so a drink, Yes it is. You can find 1:59:54.680 --> 1:59:56.800 him on eight nine dot com. You like you can 1:59:56.880 --> 1:59:58.480 ask you a question when when y'all give me something? 1:59:58.560 --> 2:00:02.000 Drying a T shirt? Nothing, no saying no T shirt? 2:00:02.200 --> 2:00:05.480 We got we gave speaks to me every every time 2:00:05.560 --> 2:00:10.600 it sends me nothing. Yeah, found like, I don't say nothing. 2:00:10.720 --> 2:00:15.240 I got you. He's in charge of the merch. He's 2:00:15.280 --> 2:00:16.800 in charge. I'm not in charge of the merch. Don't 2:00:16.840 --> 2:00:21.160 put that on me. I'm not ready. I put it 2:00:21.240 --> 2:00:29.080 on with a blood a man. Jesus, Come on, you 2:00:29.240 --> 2:00:33.080 are the blood cat you are catching save a Blood. 2:00:34.080 --> 2:00:35.880 Did you know that I produced a song with him 2:00:35.920 --> 2:00:38.480 and p on priz h and not c with him, 2:00:38.480 --> 2:00:42.320 and that song is fire? Yes? Specific can you? Can 2:00:42.360 --> 2:00:44.600 you play that song on your podcast as I'm talking 2:00:44.640 --> 2:00:48.080 about that, because we have to actually own a material 2:00:48.120 --> 2:00:53.280 that we play. That's because Jeff two times JP that 2:00:54.880 --> 2:00:57.280 for that. Um No, but I'm going to get my 2:00:57.600 --> 2:00:59.840 my NOS plaque in that plaque. Wasn't we all in 2:01:00.040 --> 2:01:02.920 Vegas when Prodigy passed away? We'll all have just seen you, 2:01:04.240 --> 2:01:06.720 just ran on stage with you and just seeing you, 2:01:06.800 --> 2:01:08.840 and that's when I happened, and you did my my 2:01:08.960 --> 2:01:11.840 food show before that or after that, after that week 2:01:12.040 --> 2:01:14.560 after that, because that's why you have flew me down there. 2:01:14.960 --> 2:01:17.080 And I came from the airport straight to the concert, 2:01:17.720 --> 2:01:20.440 and I've seen Havoc halways p he had already left, 2:01:20.920 --> 2:01:23.680 and then that I could and you know what's crazy, 2:01:25.480 --> 2:01:28.760 because that's why God made listen listen, just so you know, 2:01:29.360 --> 2:01:32.080 I was fighting the whole time from New Orleans or 2:01:32.240 --> 2:01:35.440 Las Vegas to where I would filmed that so and 2:01:35.520 --> 2:01:37.680 I knew that's where I was going to bring you to. 2:01:38.360 --> 2:01:41.560 So God made me pick Las Vegas to see p 2:01:41.800 --> 2:01:43.200 for his last time. I know, I don't want to 2:01:43.200 --> 2:01:46.880 be conspiracy theoriest God made you God, because it was 2:01:46.960 --> 2:01:49.960 like it was like Vegas or New Orleans. I actually 2:01:50.000 --> 2:01:54.280 like New Orleans cuisine more than I like Vegas a cuisine, 2:01:54.560 --> 2:01:59.960 but I like Vegas as a whole. God and something 2:02:00.040 --> 2:02:02.280 reasons I was telling me, like, yo, go to Vegas. 2:02:02.800 --> 2:02:04.920 So I took Vegas and I brought you with me 2:02:05.000 --> 2:02:07.520 to Vegas. And there's the last time question we all 2:02:07.560 --> 2:02:10.000 see products when when God tells you these things like 2:02:10.040 --> 2:02:12.040 when does it happen? And how did it happen? Like 2:02:12.200 --> 2:02:15.200 I just felt it like it was something that um 2:02:15.480 --> 2:02:17.440 that it was like it was like I'll make a 2:02:17.480 --> 2:02:20.120 break the show, like there was actually this because they 2:02:20.200 --> 2:02:22.760 really want was pushing in New Orleans. So this was 2:02:22.840 --> 2:02:26.000 like something that I piste off the crew. That's crazy 2:02:26.000 --> 2:02:27.800 because he was when he died, you know what I'm 2:02:27.800 --> 2:02:32.880 saying that It was even crazier when I pulled up 2:02:32.880 --> 2:02:35.200 and I got it on video. When I pulled up right, 2:02:35.680 --> 2:02:39.120 they was doing shook ones on stage, but I stayed 2:02:39.120 --> 2:02:41.680 out there smoking and we on the camera because my 2:02:41.800 --> 2:02:43.680 niggas that picked me up. And then when I went 2:02:43.720 --> 2:02:45.320 That's when I went out. I see nor anything. I 2:02:45.360 --> 2:02:47.000 went on stage with Norway know you brought me on 2:02:47.080 --> 2:02:50.200 stage at you and and prod of you. The man 2:02:50.280 --> 2:02:53.640 already left, but across the street was addressing room. So 2:02:53.680 --> 2:02:57.200 I've seen half half what I see them. Mob D 2:02:57.400 --> 2:02:59.720 was the first niggas to really do songs with with 2:03:00.000 --> 2:03:02.240 I was so naughty for and we shot a video 2:03:02.280 --> 2:03:04.440 of the wards on with P. He was on a 2:03:04.520 --> 2:03:08.160 new tribe right, So like when we kept a relationship 2:03:08.280 --> 2:03:10.960 after that, Like I always felt like P was special 2:03:11.120 --> 2:03:15.000 at I can't I'm telling you, yeah, I always felt 2:03:15.040 --> 2:03:17.800 like Prodigy was special. He was. He was a different 2:03:17.920 --> 2:03:19.600 like and even now, like you know what I'm saying, 2:03:19.600 --> 2:03:22.280 I meet a lot of people, so some people stand out. 2:03:22.320 --> 2:03:24.000 You know what I'm saying, I don't want that ship 2:03:24.120 --> 2:03:27.480 like you keep passing that ships you keep passing? Why 2:03:27.560 --> 2:03:29.520 you even smoking that? That's it is harsh, bro, she 2:03:29.680 --> 2:03:35.920 just killing me. Yeah, it's not good at But at 2:03:35.960 --> 2:03:38.720 the last time we got ut se Prodigy and it's 2:03:38.720 --> 2:03:41.280 crazy we got to see him together, man, And then 2:03:41.440 --> 2:03:43.520 then we did the song with you Down Down No 2:03:43.800 --> 2:03:47.280 non no no, you killed that. That song is hot 2:03:47.560 --> 2:03:50.520 there's not that ship is hot and you know the crazy. 2:03:50.680 --> 2:03:52.720 That was the first song we actually recorded after we 2:03:52.840 --> 2:03:55.520 actually squashed our beat and it was on your beat 2:03:57.040 --> 2:04:00.480 that for those who don't know what's have a song? 2:04:00.680 --> 2:04:04.040 What you wrapp got? That song is crazy. Just ordered 2:04:04.080 --> 2:04:07.840 my plaque um this week because I lost all my 2:04:07.960 --> 2:04:12.520 plaques and pun one not know. That's the only plaque 2:04:12.520 --> 2:04:14.200 I got And that's the only because I left it 2:04:14.280 --> 2:04:18.760 in somebody's house. But um yeah, yeah, if you left 2:04:18.800 --> 2:04:21.040 the plaque in somebody, that's only the only ways I 2:04:21.120 --> 2:04:25.760 have my punting plaque. I have super dumb and I 2:04:25.840 --> 2:04:30.720 have somebody's career. You are doing? You just car like 2:04:30.880 --> 2:04:33.280 you out. It's like holding plaque for me, you know 2:04:33.280 --> 2:04:36.360 what I'm saying. So um yeah, because remember the Hood Lab. 2:04:36.400 --> 2:04:37.840 Remember I had all my plaques in the Hood Lab 2:04:37.920 --> 2:04:39.880 and the Hood Lab when he was leaving it had 2:04:39.920 --> 2:04:42.720 got robbed, so they took all the plaques. I don't 2:04:42.720 --> 2:04:44.520 know why people still plaques. You had a bunch of 2:04:44.600 --> 2:04:46.640 plaques show. Yeah, it's just work a hundred dollars like 2:04:46.880 --> 2:04:51.840 people think that it's really they cost money, especially of 2:04:51.920 --> 2:04:54.600 history though first someone who Yeah, yeah, but you can't 2:04:54.600 --> 2:04:57.200 really sell them though I got a double platinum nos plaque, 2:04:57.440 --> 2:05:00.880 still that I didn't go get I got a seven 2:05:00.960 --> 2:05:03.320 million Kelly Black. Come on, man, it's not that's not 2:05:03.400 --> 2:05:07.960 really worth that. What you think about Dr Kelly situation. 2:05:08.000 --> 2:05:09.880 I think Kelly is guilty. He should get sucked in 2:05:09.960 --> 2:05:14.720 his ass every day and jail. But I also think 2:05:14.800 --> 2:05:21.880 O J is innocent. How do you used to date 2:05:21.960 --> 2:05:25.600 O J's daughter? I think you gotta make noise for that. 2:05:28.080 --> 2:05:29.880 That was he black old J? Or this is white 2:05:29.920 --> 2:05:32.560 old J? Which was I never met? You never met 2:05:32.600 --> 2:05:35.040 old J? I met him? He him stating his daughter, 2:05:35.200 --> 2:05:38.000 And you know what I'm saying, like when all that 2:05:38.200 --> 2:05:40.760 was going on, everything back while that was going on, 2:05:41.960 --> 2:05:44.560 why he was? Why he was? I mean it was, 2:05:44.760 --> 2:05:47.760 you know, it wasn't too far from no it was 2:05:47.920 --> 2:05:50.280 you know, the trial like a you know, he was following, 2:05:50.320 --> 2:05:55.760 you know, but yeah, that was that was interesting. His daughter, 2:05:57.800 --> 2:06:02.800 what's her name? Laurenthal now Laura are Now that's all. 2:06:04.320 --> 2:06:10.320 That's all. You knocked a lot of things down, yo. Man, Listen, 2:06:11.040 --> 2:06:13.360 you know you gotta it's either it's either you say 2:06:13.360 --> 2:06:17.040 it here. You know you can't be super hand man, 2:06:17.080 --> 2:06:22.120 shouldn't be judged by by the things that he's knocked down. No, man, listen, man, 2:06:22.200 --> 2:06:24.120 let me tell you something. Man, let me tell you something. 2:06:24.160 --> 2:06:26.280 Man shouldn't be tell you something. You know how many 2:06:26.320 --> 2:06:30.440 other people that your age, that don't look like pause, 2:06:30.760 --> 2:06:32.840 that don't look as good as you look, as young 2:06:32.920 --> 2:06:35.120 as you? You know what you should be. You should 2:06:35.120 --> 2:06:37.840 be bragging about this ship me I'll be telling anybody 2:06:39.200 --> 2:06:41.560 me exactly. It's not me no more. It's not me 2:06:41.680 --> 2:06:46.480 no more. I bet you remember you you now now 2:06:48.080 --> 2:06:51.840 had your ship, you know what I mean? Like, there's 2:06:51.880 --> 2:06:54.560 some games that you'd be surprised, you'd be like you 2:06:54.680 --> 2:06:56.920 past the blood. The reason you're doing with the blood? 2:06:57.160 --> 2:07:01.280 Come on, you can tell who at this man, I'm 2:07:01.280 --> 2:07:06.040 surprised that yours that is that's the one that this is, 2:07:06.160 --> 2:07:08.360 this is, this is this is diego o g God 2:07:08.440 --> 2:07:15.440 damnit makes him to diego? Were almost done? Now, what'sn't 2:07:15.440 --> 2:07:19.720 that you're rushing? We're trying to get you. Now, what's 2:07:19.840 --> 2:07:22.200 next for zeno? Man, you can't get the rest of 2:07:22.280 --> 2:07:25.920 us next taking her down to night. We know that 2:07:28.640 --> 2:07:35.080 some as going on now on both ends. Let's go 2:07:37.040 --> 2:07:42.440 get comfortable. You know you know what I am. I 2:07:42.560 --> 2:07:45.840 see you know what I'm saying. I'm saying nobody should 2:07:45.840 --> 2:07:48.680 be left rack. He can't help lights niggas a blockhead 2:07:48.840 --> 2:07:56.480 gotta be done. It's in the Geneva Convention. I gotta 2:07:57.360 --> 2:08:04.280 got each other, that bad girl watch it back. So 2:08:04.600 --> 2:08:09.480 so what so so what's next to me? Um? Like, 2:08:09.640 --> 2:08:11.920 so I'm gonna open up the restaurant. Yes, you know 2:08:11.920 --> 2:08:13.720 what I'm saying, get back to my passion cook and 2:08:13.840 --> 2:08:15.680 try to open up a few more around the country. 2:08:17.440 --> 2:08:19.720 Still hosting, you know what I'm saying, Still still ripping 2:08:19.760 --> 2:08:21.680 the mic. I got some hot music that I'm just 2:08:21.760 --> 2:08:26.720 holding on too, and to put it out. Um um, 2:08:27.800 --> 2:08:30.320 got some offers to go back on TV. You know 2:08:30.360 --> 2:08:34.400 what I'm saying. And you know, you know, big fishing 2:08:34.440 --> 2:08:41.320 them niggas a little bit I got. I got relaxed one. 2:08:45.640 --> 2:08:47.200 That's what they love about you, because if he knows 2:08:47.200 --> 2:08:53.720 you gotta relax himself. I gotta relax. Yeah, you know 2:08:53.760 --> 2:08:55.760 what say, I got some opportunities and I think it'll 2:08:55.800 --> 2:08:57.440 be good because at the end of the day, like 2:08:57.720 --> 2:08:59.800 I feel like, you know, you know what I'm saying. 2:09:00.680 --> 2:09:03.560 You know, I feel like there's a big demographic out there. 2:09:03.600 --> 2:09:05.160 I want to see me back on TV. I like 2:09:05.280 --> 2:09:06.920 being on TV. You know what I'm saying, I don't. 2:09:07.200 --> 2:09:10.200 I don't. I'm not gonna portray myself or nothing that 2:09:10.240 --> 2:09:12.720 I'm not on TV. When it comes to women, I mean, 2:09:12.840 --> 2:09:14.560 you know, yeah, like I've been the streets and I've 2:09:14.560 --> 2:09:16.440 been through it all. But when it comes to women, 2:09:16.480 --> 2:09:21.120 it's nothing the matter with being romantic and being respectful 2:09:21.200 --> 2:09:22.880 him being and having something. You know what I'm saying, 2:09:22.920 --> 2:09:25.800 there would be just because you you know you're wild 2:09:25.840 --> 2:09:27.200 in the street, don't mean you have to be wild 2:09:27.280 --> 2:09:29.080 with a woman as far as we treat it right. 2:09:29.600 --> 2:09:31.920 So I think I've always maintained that. I think that's 2:09:31.960 --> 2:09:34.560 like what I would want to pass on to my sons. 2:09:34.800 --> 2:09:38.320 Because how about marriage bootcamp? Because marriage bootcamp, we're talking 2:09:38.320 --> 2:09:44.920 about marriage. Let me about something right now that I 2:09:45.000 --> 2:09:47.720 believe his wife, I believe Jocelyn, I believe all of them. 2:09:48.080 --> 2:09:50.879 Is I believe corrupt. They're all out there for filming 2:09:51.160 --> 2:09:57.200 secretly a marriage bootcamp right now and you had a 2:09:57.400 --> 2:10:01.520 period of marriage bootcamp and through that again, word that 2:10:01.920 --> 2:10:04.200 I would do it, I'd go to six months in 2:10:04.320 --> 2:10:12.520 prison before I do it. Maybe stuff, But what is like, look, 2:10:12.800 --> 2:10:15.360 give me the money. I don't do six months. If 2:10:15.640 --> 2:10:18.480 TV is still black and white, you don't watch no TV, 2:10:18.600 --> 2:10:21.520 You're not listen. I'm not gonna be locked up in 2:10:21.560 --> 2:10:24.200 the crib with anybody no more. But you can't leave. 2:10:25.080 --> 2:10:26.960 I was. I was sneaking off to the side. The 2:10:27.000 --> 2:10:30.560 production team was always like, where's Benzino? Benzino, I'm in 2:10:30.640 --> 2:10:34.680 the woods, Like, yo, listen, give me, give me my space, 2:10:35.240 --> 2:10:39.240 give my space. That was crazy because yeah, because with 2:10:39.320 --> 2:10:41.240 the camera the scenes go off, I'd be mad as 2:10:41.360 --> 2:10:44.640 fun because I hate being played. You're like, yo, just 2:10:44.720 --> 2:10:46.880 give my space, Get my fucking space. You know what 2:10:46.880 --> 2:10:48.720 I'm saying. They'd be like, okay, okay, they don't hurt you. 2:10:49.160 --> 2:10:51.480 It's not like you would rehab. Listen. I would rather 2:10:51.520 --> 2:10:55.360 go to prison, you know I'm saying that. Say let 2:10:55.440 --> 2:10:57.360 me tell you something. Let me tell you kid, like 2:10:57.640 --> 2:11:00.240 I know you. You wouldn't be able to be locked 2:11:00.320 --> 2:11:02.640 up in there two weeks with your WIFEI going through 2:11:02.680 --> 2:11:04.680 the ship that they put you through, all right, it's 2:11:04.720 --> 2:11:08.240 a social experience of what they put you through. This 2:11:08.360 --> 2:11:11.440 is what they this this cameras everywhere, every wearing the 2:11:11.480 --> 2:11:14.080 bathroom and they're looking at your balls. And looking at 2:11:14.160 --> 2:11:17.520 your fucking they're looking at your fucking uh kissing your 2:11:17.560 --> 2:11:19.600 girl if you want to looking at that. They're looking 2:11:19.600 --> 2:11:25.800 at everything, every bedroom fucking tallest. There's tons of sex 2:11:25.880 --> 2:11:30.000 tapes out right now that can be out. That's real ship, bro, 2:11:30.560 --> 2:11:33.920 that's real ship. All right, that's real ship. And I'm 2:11:33.960 --> 2:11:36.760 always wondering, like they ain't that some six ship. And 2:11:36.840 --> 2:11:39.680 then they sit in the fucking room with fucking TV 2:11:39.840 --> 2:11:44.000 screens looking at everything has some six ship, But me 2:11:44.840 --> 2:11:48.680 seat don't ain't no shame't my game with that motherfucker 2:11:48.720 --> 2:11:51.880 out cameras. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, because what 2:11:52.000 --> 2:11:54.640 the funk we meant? You know what I'm saying, Yeah, 2:11:54.880 --> 2:11:56.880 he was supposed to. Don't give a funk about that, 2:11:57.440 --> 2:11:58.840 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you want to see it? 2:11:59.120 --> 2:12:18.280 Ship show? Ain't one show a conversive looking ship? We 2:12:18.400 --> 2:12:24.440 got one, man, you got one more shot man, Zeno. Man, 2:12:24.680 --> 2:12:26.240 I just want to tell you, man, I don't want to. 2:12:26.320 --> 2:12:28.720 I don't want you know, so many people they want 2:12:28.760 --> 2:12:32.200 to tell people how much this Okay, we ain't gotta 2:12:32.240 --> 2:12:37.680 more good. We thought as the ago, we got blunts 2:12:37.720 --> 2:12:43.040 in the car. That's another pack. Yeah, yeah, those shine blunts. 2:12:43.120 --> 2:12:47.200 Shine blunts definitely. Well, I like the other shoe blunts, 2:12:47.240 --> 2:12:49.560 the ones we could roll up, the ones we were stuff. 2:12:49.680 --> 2:12:53.960 Um what was he saying? Oh, listen, man, our final 2:12:54.720 --> 2:12:59.240 our yeah, our platform as it give people their flowers 2:12:59.280 --> 2:13:02.040 while they're here, give people their roses while they here. 2:13:02.080 --> 2:13:11.720 So many people want to say, how dope. Okay, we'll 2:13:11.760 --> 2:13:17.800 give you some flowers to girl. Yeah, but listen. But 2:13:17.960 --> 2:13:20.839 what I'm saying is so many people in our industry 2:13:20.920 --> 2:13:23.240 they want to diss you when you when you when 2:13:23.240 --> 2:13:25.440 you got so many years in this game. And the 2:13:25.560 --> 2:13:27.520 thing is the thing is and why is that hold 2:13:27.720 --> 2:13:29.440 on me? Finish? The thing is a rock and roll 2:13:29.520 --> 2:13:32.080 they say that your season the more years you have, 2:13:32.520 --> 2:13:34.680 and jazz they say that you season, the more years 2:13:34.720 --> 2:13:37.240 you have, even in wrestling, you become even the more 2:13:37.600 --> 2:13:40.160 of an iconic figure. And hip hop is the only 2:13:40.320 --> 2:13:43.960 genre is the only place where when you're older they 2:13:44.000 --> 2:13:46.640 say that you're washed up. I want to change that narrative. 2:13:46.840 --> 2:13:49.000 That's the reason why we got drink Chance. We want 2:13:49.040 --> 2:13:51.640 to give people that's older, that's a statesman, and people 2:13:51.680 --> 2:13:54.120 that season have been in this game forever. We want 2:13:54.160 --> 2:13:55.840 to give them their flowers and tell them how great 2:13:55.880 --> 2:13:57.880 they are while they're alive. So I wanted to do 2:13:58.000 --> 2:14:03.440 that out. You got shot right there, and how the 2:14:03.520 --> 2:14:06.320 funky thing is. Let's just what, yo? Did you be 2:14:06.440 --> 2:14:08.160 doing that off for the top of the hand. Well 2:14:08.200 --> 2:14:13.760 do you be writing that down? It's hard, you know why? 2:14:13.800 --> 2:14:16.879 You My brother and I know that you don't understand 2:14:16.880 --> 2:14:19.560 how you see the shot? Come on, you want to 2:14:19.560 --> 2:14:23.120 try this? Come on, try this, take a shot. Take 2:14:23.160 --> 2:14:25.680 a shot with you. Take a shot of this with me. 2:14:26.160 --> 2:14:31.600 Let's go. Let's take a shot with that. Cool. Yeah, 2:14:33.040 --> 2:14:36.320 I don't want the summer's afternoon. Yes ahead, try it 2:14:36.360 --> 2:14:52.840 out you too, Okay, all right, I got it. You 2:14:52.880 --> 2:14:55.760 take one with a small let's go. Come on, like 2:14:55.920 --> 2:14:59.000 I put a little bit more from you there, Here 2:14:59.040 --> 2:15:04.480 you go, Here you go, sunny, want sunny? So you 2:15:04.520 --> 2:15:12.480 work at G five, G five right, trick daddy Tuesdays Thursdays. 2:15:14.400 --> 2:15:15.920 A lot of a lot of dirties, A lot of 2:15:15.960 --> 2:15:35.800 dirties in the baby. Yeah, thank you? Busy? You know man? 2:15:36.160 --> 2:15:38.000 You think that wait before we go, before we go, 2:15:39.120 --> 2:15:40.920 is there anybody want to shout out? You want to 2:15:41.040 --> 2:15:44.360 get up? I just want to shout out. Definitely, you e. Um. 2:15:44.520 --> 2:15:46.720 You know what I'm saying, everybody, all the fellas. You 2:15:46.760 --> 2:15:49.120 know what I'm saying. The energy be dope. You know 2:15:49.160 --> 2:15:52.880 what I'm saying, Um, And I'm definitely proud of you. 2:15:53.000 --> 2:15:54.720 You know what I mean because I know you know, 2:15:54.880 --> 2:15:56.680 you know, I know that you know, we know the 2:15:56.760 --> 2:16:00.040 insides of each we know stories that we will and 2:16:00.080 --> 2:16:02.880 even share drink champs of each other. So you know, 2:16:03.040 --> 2:16:06.160 like you know, we we we we we got a 2:16:06.240 --> 2:16:09.120 relationship down in between and and I don't even know 2:16:09.200 --> 2:16:11.360 how it happened like it ended up to where is that? 2:16:11.920 --> 2:16:13.440 Like I love nor you know what I'm saying, Like 2:16:13.520 --> 2:16:16.000 we we talked more than I mean, like we talked 2:16:16.040 --> 2:16:18.040 all the time. Checks on me, I check on him, 2:16:18.320 --> 2:16:20.960 and it's a It's like and you know, the industry 2:16:21.160 --> 2:16:23.760 is hard to find ship like that, That's what I'm saying. 2:16:24.360 --> 2:16:26.880 And it's like, you know, to see you shine like 2:16:27.040 --> 2:16:29.040 this and work hard and not only do that, but 2:16:29.160 --> 2:16:31.600 bringing niggas what you You know what I'm saying that 2:16:31.680 --> 2:16:33.840 ship is Come on, that's a guy, that's God and 2:16:34.080 --> 2:16:36.000 you're the nigger man. I'm telling you want the most 2:16:36.080 --> 2:16:39.440 loyalists down to earth. You're stopping you stuck in your ways. 2:16:39.520 --> 2:16:41.520 When you're in your ways, that's who you are. And 2:16:41.640 --> 2:16:43.520 I learned not to talk you out of it sometimes 2:16:43.640 --> 2:16:47.000 learn to just ride with you. But this bottom line 2:16:47.080 --> 2:16:48.760 is every man in this room needs to ask this 2:16:48.920 --> 2:16:53.880 question right now. Are you eating Anika's ass tonight? Look 2:16:53.879 --> 2:17:03.240 at look at look look at that. We can't handed 2:17:03.240 --> 2:17:06.160 on that. Take a print,