1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: What's up, vacination? Welcome back to another episode of Happy Hour. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: I'm here with my lovely co host, Serena. 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: I'm here with my lovely co host, Joe. How's it going, 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: Joe feeling I'm feeling pretty good. You know what's coming up? 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: Our second wedding, Our second wedding. You picked up the 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: wedding rings today. 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 3: I did. We picked up for our wedding bands. 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: We had a fun call with Walls the other day 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: to go over our ceremony. 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 3: Start talking about our vows all coming together. 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I made a joke about eternity, like are we 12 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: going to actually take this into eternity? If there is 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: an eternity? 14 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: Yes, he did make a joke. Joe's trying to figure 15 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: out where the line is of like marriage, Like, okay, 16 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 3: so like we're married today, we're married tomorrow, We're married 17 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: till the end of our lives. 18 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: But like if eternity exists, like are we married in eternity? 19 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: And the answer is yes, we are? 20 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, I will say this, And I joke around 21 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 1: about the wedding ring, yes, wedding, Like I don't want 22 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: to wear a ring, but you know, I joke like 23 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: I will say, I don't know if I put on 24 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: the ring, and I don't know if I could wear 25 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: a ring. I'm not a ring. I'm not a jewelry guy. 26 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 3: Look, most men, I would say a lot of men. 27 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: Maybe not most, but a lot of men don't wear 28 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: jewelry until they get married. Like my dad has never 29 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: put a piece of jewelry on his body except for 30 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: his wedding ring. But like, you get used to it, 31 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: and you like your ring. You were excited about it 32 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: when we got it. 33 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: I like it. 34 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: I think it's a very pretty ring, and I think 35 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: it looks good. I just it's like, oh no, now 36 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: I got something. 37 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: Else on my body else opposed to what, like clothes, 38 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: like clothes and now a ring. 39 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: No I'm pro nudist. 40 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, just Joe is not pro nudist. 41 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So something that has been requested. We used to 42 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: do it on my old podcast, Clickbait was Veacheination Breakdown, 43 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: And for all you guys listening, it's basically just, you know, 44 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 1: a rundown of what's going on with past a lump. 45 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: So we're gonna start bringing that back at the top 46 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: of these episodes. And if you don't like it. Then 47 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: dm us would be like, yeah, stop doing that, and 48 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: then well, you know, if we'll get enough dm Son, 49 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: we'll probably stop. First first headline, which is, in my opinion, 50 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: the biggest one. Gabby Wendy. She was part of the 51 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: Bacherette Gabby and Rachel. I'm sure you all know who 52 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: she is. She just announced that she is in a 53 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: new relationship with a woman. 54 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: She did she went on the view I believe it was, 55 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: and did a sit down chat. I guess that there 56 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: has been speculation for a while. She posted an Instagram 57 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: story saying that people have been curious about her dating 58 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: life and what's been happening, and yeah, she announced that 59 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: she's dating Robbie Hoffman, who I believe is a comedian 60 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: slash writer slash comedy writer. 61 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: And they're beautiful couple. We're super happy and supportive of Gabby. 62 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: Makes time she's with a comedian. Gabby's very Gabby is 63 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: someone who's naturally funny. 64 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 3: Yes, she's incredibly witty. We actually were. 65 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: We went paintballing with her like a month ago, and 66 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: she's just a very comedic person. Naturally terrible paintball So 67 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 2: that's okay. That's a skill people can live without Gabby 68 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 2: is not paint. 69 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: But you know what, I wasn't. None of us were 70 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: a fun day. But yeah, good for Gabby. If she's happy, 71 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: we're happy and we wish her the best on our 72 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: new relationship. Yeah. 73 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely, what else we got? 74 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: Amanda Stanton's pregnant. 75 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: Yes, Amanda Stanton. 76 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: Amanda Stantony. I knew that that one. I knew for sure. 77 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: A man. She has two daughters already, she. 78 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: Has two daughters with. 79 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: Yes, she has two daughters, and now she is pregnant 80 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: with her third baby with her new husband, and super exciting. 81 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: They just had their wedding and now they've got a 82 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: new baby on the way. I'm sure her daughters are 83 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: excited to have another sibling. 84 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, her daughters are really cute. 85 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: She makes beautiful, beautiful babies, so she should absolutely continueing. 86 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: She should continue to reproduce as much as possible. 87 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: Keep going, Amanda. Okay, and then we also have another 88 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: AX bachelorette. Claire Crawley is having a baby girl. 89 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: Yes, she announced that she was having a baby via 90 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: surrogate a few weeks back, and now that we know that. 91 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: It's a little girl, we're so excited for her. I 92 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 3: feel like, she'll be a good girl. Mom. 93 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, I think so too. Happy 94 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: for claik and then we do have one hard launch. 95 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: He was the host of another Bachelor podcast, talking it 96 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: Out with Mike and Brian, and Mike came on Clickbait. 97 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: I want to say it was probably like close to 98 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: three months ago, and he had told us after the podcast. 99 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: You might have said it on the podcast that he 100 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: was in a relationship and was really like serious about it, 101 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: and you can tell he was all giddy and everything. 102 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: So I was really trying to press him on who 103 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 1: it was, and he just posted her on Instagram. 104 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: Yes, but I don't believe correct me. 105 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: I'm rom I don't think he tagged her, showed her 106 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: or showed her face or show her face. 107 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: Yes, Mike, and if you're listening to this, you got 108 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: to give us more details because this is now our 109 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: business and we would like to know. 110 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: It was such a tease. I was like, I want 111 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: to stalk this girl. 112 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: Who is she? 113 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 3: I mean, she looks beautiful from the back. I'm sure 114 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: she's equally stunning from the front. 115 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: But he's keeping it very private and low key, which 116 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: I fad that is kind of his style. 117 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, thing to do. 118 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but very very happy for Mike Johnson, for Gabby, 119 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: for Amanda, for Claire. This was all such great news 120 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: this week. Lots to be happy and excited about. Inmbachtriination. Yes, 121 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: just remember veachination breakdown. 122 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: You can always get it here fairs, So hit that 123 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: subscribe button whenever you feel like it. Okay, it's time. 124 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: My favorite episode of season Fantasy Suites. 125 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: I love Fantasy Suitets. 126 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it just picks up so quick 127 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: after Hometown's going into Fantasy Suite and you're just It's 128 00:05:53,680 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: three episodes of NonStop juiciness, love, drama, all the good stuff. 129 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: And they're in Fiji. So we got a beautiful location. 130 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 3: How far is Fiji from New York? 131 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: It's not close. 132 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: It's not close because it looks really beautiful and I 133 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: kind of want to go now. 134 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would. I don't know exactly. I 135 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: could be wrong. I would say it's probably one of 136 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: those things that'll take a day to get to. Oh gosh, yeah, 137 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of similar to like Bali. It 138 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: may even be further. 139 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 3: I feel like you're not correct. 140 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: Really, do you want to bet? No? 141 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 3: I don't want to bet. 142 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: I just feel like you're throwing it, like you're throwing 143 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: stuff at the wall right now, Like I don't think 144 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: you really know. 145 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: That's that's most of my life is just throwing stuff 146 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: out of But I will say, I bet you, I 147 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: bet you. You cannot get there from New York in 148 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: under twenty two hours. 149 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: Okay, how far is s Fiji from New York by plane? Oh, 150 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: fifteen hours and thirty minutes. 151 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's far. 152 00:06:54,920 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: That's really far. But I mean, looks beautiful, looks worth 153 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: it looks worth the trip. I was going to say, 154 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: maybe we should change our honeymoon to Fiji for the 155 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: seventeenth honeymoon switch. 156 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: But I have booked this honeymoon too. It is perfect. 157 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: I have all dinner reservations ready booked. They got all 158 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: the hotel's books, I got most of the transportation book. 159 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't have done a better joke. 160 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: Yet, we won't be changing. We won't be changing our honeymoon. 161 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: It's locked in. It's all set. So Fiji will have 162 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: to wait to another time. 163 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So let's get into it. Xavier is up first. Yes, 164 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: the date starts. 165 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: Off, you know, fine, Yeah, I mean they're on a 166 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: beautiful beach in Fiji, They're doing some ceremonial traditions. It 167 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: seems like that they're both enjoying and connecting on I. 168 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: Think the sexual attractions there. I think they have chemistry 169 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: at this point. I don't see any reason why you 170 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: would not make it to. 171 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: The fantasy absolutely. I mean I feel like, yeah, there's 172 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: no red flags. I feel like we rarely see it 173 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: where people go to a Fantasy Suite date and don't 174 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: make it into the Fantasy suite. Like I think, if 175 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: the lead is bringing you into Fantasy Seat week, there's 176 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: a good chance they are like at least like ninety 177 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: percent sure that they want to take you to the 178 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: fantasy suite and the. 179 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: Day of date. Oh, you disagree with that. 180 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: I do disagree with that. I feel like, oh, I 181 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: feel like there's been a decent amount of seasons where 182 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: only the top two end up making that. 183 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. 184 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: So. I'm trying to think back to the past season 185 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: and Zach had all three women, which we know for certain, 186 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: go to the fantasy suite. Clayton had all three women 187 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: go to the Fantasy suite. Rachel and Gabby was an 188 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: unconventional season, so they had like differing numbers. 189 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: I believe. All right, you know what, disregard that I 190 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: said that, then let's just keep going. 191 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: Okay, anyway, let's give to the dinner portion. 192 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: The portion was good. It was and it gets exciting. 193 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: Xavier now opens up, which is not easy because he 194 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: made a mistake in the past and he had to 195 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: come clean on that he had cheated on his ax. Yes, 196 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: which we all know that Charity's biggest fair she was 197 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: cheated on in the past. Also has been saying the 198 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: entire season that Savior reminded her of her AX. 199 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, the stars could not have aligned less in this situation, 200 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: like for her to say all season, he reminds me 201 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: of my axe. Have this fear of his readiness to 202 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: commit to her, this uncertainty was Xavier Now, I feel 203 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: like after Homecows they finally reached a point where she's 204 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: like really kind of leaning into this relationship wholeheartedly. And 205 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: then him to say, yeah, by the way, I cheat 206 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: on I mean, she had a really like intense story 207 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: of being with her ex on and off for six 208 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: years and being cheated on. 209 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: I believe it was multiple times. 210 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: Like this is a serious topic for her and like 211 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: not a great time to be bringing it up. Not 212 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: that there's ever really a good time to bring this 213 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: up on the show, but like, yes. 214 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: That's that's where I want to talk. That's where I 215 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 1: want to talk what I want to talk about. Because 216 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: as a viewer, you know, it's easy to say you 217 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: should have brought this up earlier, and yeah, he should 218 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: have brought it up earlier, but being in that position, 219 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: he was probably deathly afraid of bringing up and her 220 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: just automatically sending them home. 221 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you get so little time with the lead 222 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: on this show that I can imagine he was like, 223 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 2: I don't want this to be like the first thing 224 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: she learns about me, Like I want her to get 225 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: to know me for who I am and even see 226 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: if there's like a mutual connection. Before I laid this 227 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: out there, Yeah. 228 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: I mean he still could have. I mean I feel 229 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: like he could have probably did it at the night 230 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: portion of his one on one day. 231 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 3: I think that would have been appropriate because. 232 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: He was opening up then, so to drop it then. 233 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know if Charity would have sent him. 234 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: Home from that. See, I don't know if she would 235 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: have sent him home. 236 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: I think that this would have been an issue really 237 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: no matter what the timing, because kind of the direction 238 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: the conversation went, it just went down hell like. It 239 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: just felt like a snowball rolling down a hell like 240 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: picking up speed because she, I thought, was very calm 241 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: about the whole thing, and I thought she hadled it 242 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: really well. 243 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: Honestly, like regardless, if he would have told her earlier 244 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: and she would have sent him home, like he could 245 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: have got out of this. She was giving him out, yeah, 246 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: and he kept digging himself deeper. He kept saying, what 247 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: do he say if if I choose if you choose 248 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: me and I choose you. It was like Xavier, like 249 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: like just just chill up. But he couldn't. He could 250 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: not say. He could not give her the reassurance that 251 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: he wouldn't cheat. 252 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 2: No, he couldn't, and that's all she was looking for. 253 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: She was like, Okay, you know you cheated in your 254 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: past relationship. He told her he cheated on his ex 255 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: girlfriend multiple times over the course of five days on 256 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: a boy's trip, and she basically wanted to hear from 257 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: him like I made a mistake. This is what I've 258 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: done to like learn from that and make sure I 259 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: don't do it again in the future, and I can 260 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: sit here and tell you like I won't do it again. 261 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: And I think that's really what she was looking to hear, 262 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: and he could not give her that. But I don't 263 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: think he believed that. I don't think he believes in 264 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: himself to be able to not cheat it again. And 265 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: that's not to say Xavier is going to go out 266 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: and like cheat on everyone he dates. I just think 267 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: he lacks confidence in himself right now. He kept saying, like, 268 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: if I go on a boy's trip, like you know, 269 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: there's temptation everywhere, Like that is not what I want 270 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: to hear. And if that's the truth, that that's genuinely 271 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: how he feels. Like he is worried about giving into temptation. 272 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: He is not ready. 273 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: That's it. I was just gonna say. It's as simple 274 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: as he's just not ready, Like he's just not. He 275 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: may want to be, but he's clearly not. And that 276 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: was the thing, like he said, like in his heart, 277 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: I will in my heart, I will cheap it in 278 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: my head. It's totally It was just like okay, like 279 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: you just you clearly aren't ready. He's been struggling with 280 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: this the whole season. What did he say? He said 281 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: it a few times. Oh, it's scary to think think 282 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: of just being with one woman. 283 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and it's okay to be scared. 284 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: But I think his fear goes past just like the 285 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: you know, I'm ready for this, but the unknown is scary, 286 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: and committing to someone for the rest of your life 287 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 2: can be scary. I think all the signs are pointing 288 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: to he's not ready or this, and that's okay, but 289 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: he definitely needed to go home. The biggest line that 290 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: he said that really stick out to me was he 291 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: kept saying, I don't want to cheat on you. I 292 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: was like Xavier, that you can't like you can't say 293 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 2: that it's I won't cheat on you, and if it's 294 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: I don't want to cheat on you, but it doesn't 295 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: like that doesn't mean he won't do it, Like he 296 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: couldn't give her any certainty. 297 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: He's just saving himself for the future for when he 298 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: cheats and I cheat it. But I told you before 299 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: I didn't want to. 300 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't want to do it. 301 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: I didn't want to do it, but something made me 302 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: do it, Like you know, but like we. 303 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: Do have to give him a little a little bit 304 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: of grace here, because I mean he was honest. 305 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: Like, no, I respect him for being honest, for being honest, because. 306 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: He could have just you know, he could have lied. 307 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: He could have said, like, I'll never cheat on you again. 308 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: I would never do it again. He could have not 309 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: told her in the first place. Like he definitely fully 310 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: opened up and was completely honest with her, and every 311 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: question she asked, I believe he was giving her on answer, 312 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: and I do respect that. I just think when it 313 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: comes down to it, he wasn't ready. Charity and him, 314 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: we're not going to work out after that conversation, and 315 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: there was really no other option than for him to 316 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: go home. 317 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so Xavier goes home, which I think is for 318 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 4: the best, definitely for the best for both. 319 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: Of them, because yeah, it doesn't seem like he was ready. 320 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: And that's it. So Xavier is gone. Let's go to 321 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: the next fantasy suite, Joey. Joey's here, He's ready. Now, 322 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: we see Joey kind of at the beginning before he 323 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: needs Charity express that he's a little worried because last 324 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: time he saw Charity, she was getting in a car 325 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: and she was upset and he doesn't think that she 326 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: gave him the real reason she was upset. 327 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, when she got in the car, she was saying, 328 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: you know, I'm just really upset. I'm going to really 329 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: miss you, which I'm sure was part of it. She 330 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: really cares about him, You coul tell they have a 331 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: strong connection. But we saw that she had a really 332 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: unsettling conversation with Joey's uncle, and I think that the 333 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: conversation between Charity and Joey about that was the one 334 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: that we've all been waiting for. 335 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: During the date. 336 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so we see Charity opens up, you know, 337 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: we see in the interviews she's extremely excited to see Joey. 338 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Yeah, she's bouncing up and down. 339 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, which I wasn't. I don't know, I was not 340 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: expecting that. 341 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: I just think that you and I have had such 342 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: like hard eyes for Dotton and her connection this whole season, 343 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: and now it's coming out to me that like Dotton 344 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: and Joey are neck and neck at this point. Like 345 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: her connection with Joey has always been strong, but I 346 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: think this episode, I'm like, whoa, it is actually way 347 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: stronger than I think I realized. You really really saw it, 348 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: so evidently in this episode how much they like each other. 349 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: So the front end of their date, he or Charity 350 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: pulls up in an ATV kind of let joe you 351 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: know who's gonna be the boss in the bedroom comes 352 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: in strong. Unfortunately, the ATV was a bust at ATV 353 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: because it kept breaking and then they had to walk 354 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: through the forest, which was, you know, nice. 355 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: Maybe this franchise loves an ATV date. I think there's 356 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: always a four wheeler date on every single season, including Paradise. 357 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, you know, when you think about it, like 358 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: how many data, I mean, how many date options really 359 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: are there? 360 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: You know, I like it. I think it's fun. I 361 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 3: think it would be a fun date to be on. 362 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, there's always one. But I've never seen 363 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 2: it break down before, So, yeah, breaks. 364 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: Down, but they have. They do end up having that 365 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: serious conversation by like a waterfall. They talk about Joey's uncle, 366 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: and Joey basically opens up like it's not that I'm 367 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: a fake person, but you know, I come across very 368 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: positive and I love that part of me, but there 369 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: is another part of me that sometimes turns it off, 370 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: and I'm not always you know, this happy, go lucky guy, 371 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: which I think we could all, you know, understand, like 372 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm I feel like I'm that. 373 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 2: Way, yeah, and I can relate to that as well 374 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: as someone like I like to be a positive, nice, 375 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: upbeat person. I would say that's who I am majority 376 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: of the time, and I like that about myself, but 377 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: then sometimes it makes it harder to be like, oh, 378 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: let me just turn that side off and be a 379 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: bummer today kind of thing. But I do think that 380 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 2: Joey's uncle's concerned because Joey openly said on the tennis court, 381 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 2: you know me now having to lead the date for 382 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: the first time, my uncle's showing up out of nowhere, 383 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 2: Like I felt uncomfortable, Like I didn't feel good, I 384 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 2: felt thrown off. I felt a little out of my element. 385 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: And that is probably what my uncle was picking up on. 386 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: And it makes sense that maybe his uncle was attributing 387 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: him being a little awkward to like, oh, if this 388 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 2: is how he's been the whole season, this is not 389 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 2: the real Joey. But in reality, it was just that 390 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: one moment he caught him kind of out of his element. 391 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: I think Joey's been himself. He seems like a really 392 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 2: authentic guy. I don't have a lot of worries about 393 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: that as a viewer. 394 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he was just like, yeah, I'm not perfect, 395 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, no shit. I mean they're probably 396 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: be one perfect Joe in this franchise and you got him. 397 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, so they go. But anyways, you can see 398 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: Charity's happy if that felt like a real genuine conversation 399 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: and they go to the night portion the dinner, Joey 400 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: tells her he loves her and Charity says it bad. 401 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: Okay. I wish I had filmed our reaction to that. 402 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: Obviously I didn't because I didn't know what was coming. 403 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 2: But you and I like your face was just as 404 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: shocked as my face. 405 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, because we I don't know if we've just been 406 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: pushing this narrative amongst each other of like no one 407 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: says I loved you till the very end to the 408 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: last person. 409 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 2: Which isn't true at all, Like there's been multiple seasons 410 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 2: where that happens. I just don't think I expected Charity 411 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 2: to do it, because she took so long to express 412 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 2: that she's falling in love with these people, and I 413 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 2: feel like she just kind of got there, and now 414 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: she's dropping the I love us. And I also just 415 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: think that when you say I love you to multiple 416 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: people on this show, it gets messy. It always does. 417 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 2: It always makes it messier no matter what. So I 418 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: don't know. I think I just didn't expect her to 419 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: do that. 420 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't expecting it either, but it was entertaining 421 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: and I enjoyed it, and they both are now in love. 422 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: They're in love like she was whipping out the I 423 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 2: Love us left, right and center in the morning after 424 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: their date. 425 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: After their date, they do the fantasy suites I love 426 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: yous happen, and then when he leaves, she cries. So 427 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: now I'm watching it, I'm like, Joey, she Joey's winning, 428 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: Like you're not winning with Joey. Joey's ending up with 429 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: her like this said. 430 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like I've been like I've been like it's 431 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: Dotton for the past like five episodes, and now I'm like, 432 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: I have literally no clue. 433 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 3: I think it might be Joey. 434 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: It and now we get to Dotton state where it's 435 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, but okay, but then you know, 436 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: and it's because that date follows the Joey date I 437 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: feel like the beginning as a viewer felt a little 438 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: more awkward than it actually was. But I think it 439 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: was pretty smooth the whole time, and you could see 440 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: Charities really into Dotton and he's really into her. I 441 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: wrote down he is too emotionally intelligent for me. Half 442 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: the time he's talking, I'm like, at this point. 443 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: He's incredibly well spoken and he's incredible at articulating how 444 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 2: he's feeling. 445 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 3: I didn't find it awkward necessarily. 446 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: I just think that with Joey's Day ten date, like 447 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: they were doing an activity. They were walking, there was 448 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: the waterfall, they had something like very specific to be 449 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: talking about in regards to like his hometown. With Charity 450 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 2: and Dott, it just felt more of like a chill 451 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 2: date where they were just like swimming. They were on 452 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: this beautiful sandbar talking about their feelings. Like it was 453 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 2: a little more low key. But I couldn't believe it 454 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: when Dowton said, oh, I had no idea how this 455 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: show ends, so I just and if you haven't listened 456 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: to our Dotton interview, should go back and listen to 457 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 2: it because it kind of explains he got on the 458 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 2: show in kind of an interesting fast turnaround way, so 459 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: he doesn't really know what he was signing up for. 460 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 2: And he asked one of the guys like, oh, how 461 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: does this end? Like what happens at the end, and 462 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: they were like, you get engaged, and he was like, oh, 463 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: I'm down for that, Like. 464 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 3: I'm in love with her. 465 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 2: She's the person I watched by my life with, Like 466 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: I'm down to engaged and like that to me is 467 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: so cool because you know, you know for a fact, 468 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: like this guy didn't come on the show to like 469 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: fake an engagement. He's not going to fake an engagement. 470 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 2: He's not gonna do it just because she wants to 471 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: do it or he feels pressure to it, Like he 472 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: genuinely is stoked about get engaged to this girl after 473 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: like two months. Like that just goes to show how 474 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 2: much he loves her. 475 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: I agree, he's I think he I think he is 476 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: very much in love with her, And I think she 477 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: loves him too. 478 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: You think you know, we know she does because she. 479 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: Does say it later on, we'll get to that. And 480 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: he kept saying, this is you know, this is a 481 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: fairy tale, and yeah, So they leave the island and 482 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: then they go to the date portion and if you 483 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: watched and saw them walking to dinner in the hallway, 484 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: he kind of like pulls her to the side and 485 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: like mix out with her and more of like a 486 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: like a like a sexy, aggressive, like let's get it 487 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: on type of way, and you like I was like, oh, 488 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: she's into him. 489 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: This is wow. 490 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 2: I didn't realize that part was such a standout to you. 491 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: Joe's like, oh, yeah, it was a great makeout because. 492 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: It was just like you could just tell like all 493 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: the like I don't know, like sometimes the day you're like, 494 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: is there, like there's chemistry, but are they Is there 495 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: sexual chemistry? Yeah? And we see it in that hallway 496 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: where like these two people are really into each other 497 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: and you need that at the beginning of a relationship. 498 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 3: Absolutely. No, they definitely have really good sexual chemistry. 499 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they have they have dinner, and yeah, it's 500 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of the same, like you know, 501 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: like really into you. I'm really into you. And Donton 502 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: drops that he loves her, And now I'm sitting back 503 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: on my wall. Is she gonna say it again? She 504 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: loves two people? She does. 505 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 3: She says it, She's in love with two people. 506 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: And I could genuinely, like, I honestly, at this point, 507 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, two guys left. She loves them both, 508 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: She's very happy with both of them, and they both 509 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: love her. 510 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 3: Oh, I keep think you situation a throuble situation. Hmm, interesting, 511 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 3: that would be a first. 512 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I just I'm like, I have no idea 513 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: how this is going to go. 514 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: So what I keep thinking is that the breakup with 515 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: Zavi was obviously hard, but it was very evident that 516 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 2: they weren't going to be able to end up together, 517 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: and probably a little bit easier to shut that door 518 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: after the way the conversation went. Yeah, However, her breakup 519 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: with Aaron b at the Rose ceremony after Hometowns, she 520 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: took it really hard. She definitely is going to have 521 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: a hard time with these breakups, understandably, So what she's 522 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 2: doing is an easy She's in love with two people, 523 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,239 Speaker 2: her having to send one of them home in the 524 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: finale is going to wreck her. Yeah, like it is 525 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: going to squash her heart. I know, I know, I 526 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 2: feel so my heart hurts for her just knowing what 527 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 2: she's gonna have to do. 528 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna I think that's gonna be rough. But 529 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: I think if there is an engagement at the end, 530 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: like the joy that comes from that will pull her 531 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: out of it. And then the the the unlucky fella 532 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: that gets his heartbroken, he's just gonna be heartbroken. Okay, 533 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: but we see Dotton. Uh, she also cries with dott Ley. 534 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: So at this point, now we're watching her like Joey 535 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: and Dotton, Like you said, like how is she gonna 536 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: do this? 537 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 3: Like how is she going to choose? 538 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: And then that's it. We think the episodes over, but no, 539 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: Aaron B's back. Now we were joking before like it's 540 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: probably just gonna be the a Maya. It was probably 541 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: I think. 542 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 3: For sure it was gonna be the a Maya. 543 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: Actually no, I didn't. 544 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 3: Who did you think it was? I thought it was 545 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: I didn't. Oh, okay, well, originally we thought it was 546 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 3: going to. 547 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: Be her act. Yeah, that's what I thought. 548 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 4: That was gonna be her. 549 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: And then we were like, m I think it's going 550 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 2: to be me and I because she seems kind of 551 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: happy to see this person, which I wouldn't have been 552 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 2: mad about Nami. But Aaron B Coming back is definitely 553 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: a bigger twist than I expected. 554 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: So Aaron b comes back. He goes up and tries 555 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: to get her room number, and the hotel receptionist is like, not, 556 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: we don't do that here. 557 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: Which honestly thank god, like you got to follow protocol, 558 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 2: you got to protect people's privacy. Imagine she was just like, oh, yeah, 559 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 2: Charity's room eight oh one down the hall. Yeah, no, 560 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: one's staying at that hotel again. 561 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, agreed. So he goes and ends up seeing Charity. 562 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: Now I think I think people are probably initially are like, Aaron, 563 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: why did you come back? Why did you do this? 564 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: But they can't really have that opinion now because Charity's 565 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: happy to see him. 566 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she's way happier than I thought she was 567 00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 3: going to be. 568 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: I didn't think she was going to be upset, but 569 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: I thought it would be a lot of like shock 570 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: and anxiety, and she was like giddy. 571 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 572 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 5: I feel like like when the lead let's go with 573 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 5: a fourth and fifth person, you see them, you visibly 574 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 5: see them upset. 575 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: But I'm always like that they were pretty sure on 576 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: their decision, and I can she was clearly very unsure. 577 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: I think one of the worst things you can say 578 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: in a breakup, and I'm not in any way, like 579 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: condemning Charity for saying this, Like I think a lot 580 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: of people say it, and I think this was true 581 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: when she said it, but I think it's hard to 582 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: say I don't know if I'm making the right decision 583 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: when you're breaking up with someone, Because I totally. 584 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: Understand door open for them to come back. 585 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: It leaves the door open for them to come back. 586 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: It leaves the door open for them to be like, well, 587 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: if they're not sure, maybe they'll change their mind, or 588 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: maybe they'll realize that they didn't make the right decision 589 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: and it should be me. And I feel like that 590 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: actually might be happening in this case because he flew 591 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: all the way to Fiji and she seems to be 592 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: thinking like, hmmm, is this my second chance? 593 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 3: Did I make the right decision? Like she's still unsure. 594 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked when he dropped I like your fit. 595 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: Said, what an opening line from Aaron B. Good to 596 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: see you. I like your fit. 597 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: She's like, I need to take some time. He's like, 598 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: take as much time as you want. I like your fit. 599 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: By the way, no, he was it was actually very cute, 600 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: like you could I'm sure he. 601 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: You can see how tired he was, Yeah, I'm. 602 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 3: Sure he's exhausted, he's nervous. 603 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: And when she's giving him like such a good response 604 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: to showing up, He's like, take as much time you need, 605 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: like I'll be done at the beach, like you could 606 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: just tell. He's like, oh my god, like this might 607 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: have been worth it. Like I don't know. I actually 608 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen here. I don't know 609 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: if she's going to take him or not. 610 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: But I don't know. We don't know what's going to happen. 611 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: Do you think. 612 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: Aaron B's connection could surpass Dawnton and Joey's at this 613 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: point though, because I think that's what it comes down to. 614 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, simply because Charity doesn't know. 615 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: So if Charity doesn't know, how the fun could any 616 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: of us know? You know? You know? So I don't 617 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. We're left on a cliffhanger, 618 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: which is great. I cannot wait. But we'll see and 619 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: that that that reps that wraps, That wraps the recap. 620 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: Make sure to subscribe if you're not already. We are 621 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: dropping our interview with none other than Trista Sutter later 622 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: this week. 623 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening, and we'll talk to 624 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: you soon.