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Speaker 1: And That's what you Really missed with Jenna.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcomed you and That's what you Really missed podcast. We

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Speaker 1: have a fellow podcaster on here today, a fellow actor,

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Speaker 1: a dear friend, Katie Lowe's from Scandal.

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Speaker 2: Someone were a big fan of and actually good friends with,

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Speaker 2: which is still shocking to me. Love Scandal obsessed.

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Speaker 1: We were obsessed, Kevin. I don't remember who watched it first,

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Speaker 2: I think I think we started watching it while we

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Speaker 3: That makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there were nights where we were working

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Speaker 1: and we couldn't watch Scandal. I remember us like taking

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Speaker 2: Trails, or like hiding from spoilers and things.

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Speaker 1: So good, we got to go visit the set. Sadly

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Speaker 1: you didn't get to come. That was really fun. We

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Speaker 1: went to the Oval office. But I know, I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: fits anyway, Uh, please enjoy a conversation with Katie loves hi.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Hello, are you home? I'm home up

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Speaker 3: in my clawfice.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I did go back and watch I

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Speaker 4: think I watched fourteen or fifteen, like Lambshelle's in New York.

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Speaker 3: She's pregnant.

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Speaker 4: We just you know, she just got the pregnancy test

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Speaker 4: found in the trash.

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Speaker 3: You're like, I mean, I.

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Speaker 4: Just wanted to go back because I was like, I mean,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, I was such a huge fan of

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Speaker 4: or like totally so was about Like thank god it's

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Speaker 4: called Glee because that tips it off that it's about

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Speaker 3: But my brain is such much we don't remember anything.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you were on it. Do you remember scandal?

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Speaker 3: I mean that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Anything, thank God. You know how good the I feel

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Speaker 2: when like the fans are just like you guys don't

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Speaker 2: know anything. This is bad memory show.

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Speaker 3: But there's seasons. It's like they all as one.

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Speaker 2: I make the same schedule every day, like the short

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Speaker 3: Same I have. Now, do you guys have the same thing.

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Speaker 4: So okay, So you guys have the amazing Glee rewatch podcast.

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Speaker 4: Garmo Diaz and I host the Scandal rewatch podcast called

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Speaker 4: Untacking the Toolbox. Do you guys have the same thing

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Speaker 4: I do, where like I can really really well remember

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Speaker 4: the pilot like anything from the beginning. Yes, then everything

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Speaker 1: Well, it's so formative and it was like coming up

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Speaker 2: Think it's because it's the first So like Scandal had

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Speaker 4: Actually I feel like you guys auditioned for Glee, Ryan Murphy,

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Speaker 3: God, that was not my first job. I could not

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Speaker 2: But we didn't know. We thought that was normal. So

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Speaker 4: Do you have like I'm sure, I mean all the Glee,

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Speaker 4: I have auditioned for Glee like only one thousand times

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Speaker 3: It's good. It's good when you would audition for that.

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Speaker 3: Sing something. You guys, I cannot believe your jobs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, but your job because I feel like

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Speaker 3: And you guys also never were you ever? Oh no,

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Speaker 4: And sound editing, yeah, I did a Okay, here's another

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Speaker 4: Glee question that I have. Did you have so many

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Speaker 3: Like my figure?

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Speaker 4: When I watched the episode I watched just to refresh

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Speaker 3: No, no way.

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Speaker 4: And for everyone listening who doesn't know what a twelve

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Speaker 4: But at a certain point it gets really bad because

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Speaker 1: And if I'm correct, there was a rule that after

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Speaker 4: I was just listening to maybe another podcast that does

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Speaker 3: Somebody literally is like that's a no. I do not

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Speaker 4: I'm like, wow, I do a forest call and then

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Speaker 3: Yeahes or calls?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, we did.

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Speaker 4: they do become super well oiled machines. People are doing

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Speaker 2: No? No, we did become more well oiled. But like

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Speaker 2: never going to shoot an episode in eight days. That

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I feel like it was.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: Look, Scandal definitely made exceptions, like my nine year old

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Speaker 4: definitely done. Jenna Ushwitz and I played the same part

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00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 4: on Broadway me years after her.

445
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 3: She was like the real deal. I was not stop.

446
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 4: But it was exhaust like just because my husband and

447
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 4: I made our Broadway debuts together in Waitress the Musical

448
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 4: the Last but we had visitors like every day, oh.

449
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially the two of you.

450
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 4: It was the two of us, like the entire every

451
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 4: synagogue on the Eastern Board came to see how Shapiro

452
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 4: play Ogi but I and family member. But but it

453
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 4: was so like exhaust like it was just like, yeah,

454
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 4: you for show, you like want to go home and

455
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 4: lay down.

456
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 2: I always think about that because there's on a set,

457
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: even though you guy sad to be on, but you

458
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: have a lot of waiting. There's a lot of recoup

459
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: time when you've just performed a show, especially in musical

460
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 2: where you're singing for two and a half hours NonStop

461
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 2: and you have eight shows a week. I don't know.

462
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 2: I don't know how yeah you like entertain guests or

463
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: talk to people afterwards. I just don't get it.

464
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a nice like come down, like detox from

465
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Speaker 1: the from your like performance.

466
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes you're like I got to go.

467
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I you know, I learned a lot

468
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 4: about and I'm curious how you guys, so tell me

469
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 4: and then we'll get back to this. Like when you

470
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 4: guys are sick on the show, what did you do

471
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 4: for your voice and you had to sing?

472
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 3: Like what would you do? Do that never happen? Or

473
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 3: did that always happened? And what did you do? Like

474
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: complain and freak out?

475
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 4: If I had been on Thank god I never got

476
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 4: hired on that show because I'm not built for that.

477
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 3: I would have a absolute heart attack.

478
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 4: And here's why I bring it up, because I had

479
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 4: never had that experience. Like I'm an actor who sings.

480
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 4: I sang in high school and then that was really it.

481
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 4: But when I got waitress with Adam and I auditioned,

482
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 4: I can blow the shit out of a song once.

483
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 4: Don't ask me to do that eight times.

484
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 3: There's no way.

485
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 4: I don't think my voice can hack it, honestly, Like,

486
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 4: I really don't know, and I don't want to make

487
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 4: the changes in my life to have to do that.

488
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: I like milk. I like chocolate. I like drinking, yeah.

489
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 4: Between us, I like an occasional cigarette, like once a year.

490
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 4: But still you can't do that when you're a singer.

491
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 4: So when Adam and I booked this, we started like

492
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 4: like never speaking to me each other and only using

493
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 4: like our hands and like, oh, we exaggerating arm movements,

494
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 4: which was I had a seven month old and I

495
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 4: did that as well because I didn't know if I

496
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 4: could do it. And I walked into the Broadway dressing

497
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 4: room and I had a scarf on and an individualized nebulizer.

498
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 3: I want to know who was doing this on Glee?

499
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 4: Okay, I would take voice lessons that were extremely overpriced

500
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 4: and hopefully worth it. I don't know, And I was

501
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 4: like so conscious about my voice. Then I asked Kat McPhee,

502
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 4: who was also a Jenna at the time that we

503
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 4: worked with, and I was like, how are you going

504
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 4: out every night to these?

505
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: Oh?

506
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 4: She can sing her fucking I'm like, how are you

507
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 4: going out every night? And be cause she went out?

508
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 4: She had people over after the show every show, and

509
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 4: she's going out to the restaurants in the bars. And

510
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 4: at first, the first month I did the show, I

511
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 4: was going home and not socializing, bringing it back around,

512
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 4: saving my instrument. And I'd see her fucking going out

513
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 4: and she's singing eight thousand songs. I'm singing like one,

514
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 4: like what is going on?

515
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: Yep?

516
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 5: And she told me I just the whole time, like

517
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 5: up in my nose, like I talk like this, and

518
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 5: that's how it daves my voice, which obviously I can't

519
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 5: do as a person because that's so insane.

520
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 4: But what I learned is I just gate. What happened

521
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 4: was I faced my biggest fears. I got sick, my

522
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 4: understudy went on. People had flown in to see me,

523
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 4: they didn't get to I faced my worst fears. Then

524
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 4: I said fuck it. I went out every single night,

525
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 4: drank like a fish, had cigarettes occasionally, And guess what

526
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 4: I learned. My voice is like a brick shit house.

527
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 4: At a certain point, at after about you know, the

528
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 4: eighty sixth show, what I learned was is I can

529
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 4: always act and figure out some other choice with my

530
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 4: voice to like get through and sell that damn song

531
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 4: and like live your life. And it was and I

532
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 4: stopped warming up.

533
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you got it. Go Oh I didn't be.

534
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm done being miserable. I can't do

535
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 3: this anymore. And I started socializing.

536
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 4: And just trusting and knowing that my voice is really

537
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 4: strong and I can do it and it is.

538
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: Yes, And it's also muscle memory, like doing the same

539
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: song over and over again, you're like, oh, I remember

540
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: how to do this. Even if you check out, You're like, oh,

541
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: the words are there, They're there.

542
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 3: I think that's what it was.

543
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 4: Too, was like I got so good at the two

544
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 4: you know whatever songs, I have to do that my my,

545
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 4: like doing one hundred crunches a day and then one

546
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty and then thirty five.

547
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 3: I just got good at it.

548
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 4: But Glee, you couldn't do that because no, your songs

549
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 4: changed every week. Tell me about being sick and taking

550
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 4: care of their voice and how you had to live

551
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 4: a life now, like did you have fucket moments?

552
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: Did you cry?

553
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: Did you it was all fucket moments?

554
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: There was we never oh, we never like went on

555
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: vocal rass or any of that.

556
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 2: Time to even warm up, Like the amount of time

557
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 2: we had to warm up would be from Paramount to Chalice,

558
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: which was a ten minute car ride. Yeah, that is

559
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: not enough time to warm up.

560
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 4: But did you ever have a point where you were like,

561
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 4: holy shit, I actually have learningitis or like I have

562
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 4: something like when you just either have to.

563
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: Push the recording if they have time, you go get

564
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: a steroid shot in your butt and your voice comes

565
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: back for an hour and you do it. I had

566
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: lost my voice for like three months and I had

567
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: to go to a doctor and he told me i'd

568
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: ask a reflux. It wasn't true.

569
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 3: I had that too. It's just really rough and you just.

570
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 1: Take adval and drink water and like get through it

571
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: and you don't sound as great. But like at some

572
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: point seven hundred numbers, you're like, well, they know what

573
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: I sound like good, and they know what I sound

574
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: like bad.

575
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

576
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 3: How many numbers did you end up doing?

577
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: Seven?

578
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

579
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 3: Something out of here or thirty something? Yeah.

580
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: I mean we weren't in all of them, obviously, but.

581
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: That's how many of the show did.

582
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

583
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

584
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: There were times when I I finally got to do

585
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: a Michael Jacks song, so excited about had one hundred

586
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 2: and two fever. Yeah, And I was in the recording

587
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: booth doing p y T, which is also like my no,

588
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: it was my nightmare because growing up I was like

589
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: that song is so hard, so hard. I would never

590
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: want to do that, Like, Oh, we finally gave you

591
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: a Michael song. It's p y t.

592
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 3: It's always like that. It was always like that.

593
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 2: And I got two Michael songs that week. I had to

594
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: record both in that week, and I was and one

595
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: of the episodes was for the super Bowl, and.

596
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 3: I went pressure, no pressure, never heard of it.

597
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 2: Oh no, And I'm like, oh, I'm doing the biggest

598
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 2: number and the biggest episode we'll ever have, and I

599
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 2: can't sing. I had to like sit in the booth

600
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: and do one line at a time because my voice

601
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: would go out for like five minutes after each line.

602
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: Did you come from? Babe? And silence?

603
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 4: Now here's a question. Have you guys sung a lot

604
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 4: since Glee? Like Okaie, I only sing for you.

605
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: You're unbelievable.

606
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: It's stops.

607
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: You're the best, most beautiful singer. You're stuff. You're such

608
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: a full package. You liar, You're a liar. No, You're

609
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: just so pretty. I can dance and can sing.

610
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: You're a real triple threat.

611
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: Remember that word. You're a real freaking triple threat. You're

612
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: so good at it all.

613
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 4: I watched when I watched it back again, that episode

614
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 4: my the like the little girl in myself, I was like, oh,

615
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 4: I wish I'd booked that job, like like it had

616
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 4: just sunned, like looked fun, Like like my happiest moments

617
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 4: when I wasn't having a breakdown like in waitress is

618
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 4: when you're singing and dancing in a group like and

619
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 4: and you're not the lead and you're not like, I

620
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 4: don't like that feeling.

621
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: I don't.

622
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: I never was like a real I don't really like

623
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 4: the solo to be honest, but I fucking love hitting

624
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 4: a harmony in a dance move and a group of people,

625
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 4: Like I think that is the fun like so heart

626
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 4: feeling and like the best. I just did you feel

627
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 4: like that all the time or were you like, oh,

628
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 4: the camera's on them and not on me, Like did

629
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 4: it get like because it was shot?

630
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: You know?

631
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 4: I you know you had those feelings you had in

632
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 4: high school doing musicals that I did, Like did that

633
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: drastically change now that it was on camera and all

634
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 4: about like, you know, fame and fortune?

635
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: That feeling happened a lot, especially when we were performing

636
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: for each other, when we were in the choir room

637
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: or actually on the auditorium stage and you would have

638
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: Matt Morrison, or if it was like a boys versus

639
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: girls sing, which was always the most fun.

640
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: That's what I saw in the episode I watched, Yes.

641
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: And so like during those times, we were all just

642
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: sort of egging each other on to be insane, absurd,

643
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: over the top, like really go for it. And sometimes

644
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,239
Speaker 2: we were singing like really absurd songs and they were

645
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: having a sing in a funny way, which was those times,

646
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: and we got to wear like crazy costumes. Those times

647
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: were such a blast. I think when we got to

648
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: some of the longer days, the more tedious, more tediously

649
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: shot numbers, it doesn't feel like that, and you're like,

650
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: it's very much okay, let's just get it done. Let's

651
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 2: get the coverage. We've done this so can onto you.

652
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: There's the crew is singing it the next day and

653
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: you're like they're like, we're so sorry. It's just stuck

654
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: in our heads because you're doing it fifteen thousand times.

655
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: I think what I was like, you could tell you

656
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: have those moments like it's kind of like in waitress,

657
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: like when everybody sing everything changes and you're all singing

658
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: together and you're like, oh my god, this is bigger

659
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: than me. I love this like somebody loving Glee. Don't

660
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: stop believing Anglee, like you feel those moments we were like,

661
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: oh this is a special one, I think, or I

662
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: really love this song.

663
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: I'm so glad we're doing it.

664
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: But I think the headfuckery thing about it was like

665
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't that you're like, oh, why isn't Why didn't

666
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: I get the solo? I want the solo. It's like

667
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: there's so many characters that you're like, well, why aren't

668
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: they writing for me? What's wrong with me? There's like

669
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: an insecurity that comes out that you're like totally, and

670
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: they keep saying like, there's just so many characters, we

671
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: can't give you everything you want, you know what I mean,

672
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: Like there were eighteen of us at one point, and wow,

673
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: You're like I just can't and we can't do it.

674
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: So I think there was a part of it that

675
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: was like, well, why aren't you utilizing me? Does that

676
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: mean that the fans don't like me as much?

677
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 4: We all felt that way on Scandal too. I mean

678
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 4: I actually speak for other people, but similarly, I had

679
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: conversations I think like that with like Columbus and myself

680
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 4: and I can remember, you know, part of being on

681
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: a hit TV show.

682
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: That is an ensemble show. Yeah, it is so challenging

683
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: on your ego too.

684
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 4: Yes, And I tell this to acting classes all the

685
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 4: time because they're like, you know, you know, when is

686
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 4: it ever enough? Because you'll say, oh, I just want

687
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: to co star, coastar, coastar, guest our, guest our, guest star.

688
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 3: I just want to be the lead of a show.

689
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: I just want to be lead a show.

690
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: Well, and then when you're the lead of the show,

691
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 4: you say, I just want to be the lead storyline.

692
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 4: I just want to be the main storyline. I just

693
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 4: want them to write for me. I just want to

694
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 4: write for me. Then they say then it moves to oh,

695
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 4: I just hope I get the movie on the summer hiatus.

696
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 4: How they got a movie and I didn't. And then

697
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: it becomes oh, I hope I get an appearance on

698
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 4: Jimmy Kimmel.

699
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 3: Someone else got Jimmy Kimmel.

700
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 4: My point being, it's such a lesson, over and over

701
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 4: and over again, and I totally understand what you're saying.

702
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 4: Jennen felt similarly, like what's wrong with me? But just

703
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: like in in knowing that you have to be okay

704
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 4: and that you are enough in yourself and your own

705
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 4: You have to validate your own talent and your own

706
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: worth because it's never it's never enough, and it's never

707
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 4: going to come from anything outside. I mean, like that

708
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 4: needle just keeps moving of other shit that you watch always, it's.

709
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: Oh so hard because when you're stuck in it, you're

710
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: in like the vortex of it. You can't see outside

711
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: of it like you have to. You need the instant

712
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: reminder you're just stuck in it.

713
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: You're like deep because it's also being like you're either

714
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: being validated or invalidated also by things outside of the show.

715
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: Like for me, it wasn't necessarily oh I'm not getting

716
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: enough storyline, Like I get what part I signed up for,

717
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: Like I know where I was in the pecking order.

718
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: The show is with Corey Jane math like got it

719
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: happy down here. But like the weird thing was like

720
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 2: with it, like you said, the hit TV show, All

721
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: those ancillary exterior opportunities that come up are the weird

722
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: thing because it feels like you're all rising together outside

723
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: you're all the events. Then all of a sudden, it's like,

724
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: oh wait, that person has like a campaign they're shooting

725
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: this weekend, or that person's getting to present at this

726
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: award show. Oh that doesn't feel great. That's we're all together, yes.

727
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, that's a it's a huge learning it's

728
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: a huge learning.

729
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 3: Lesson and it's really good. I mean it's it's really.

730
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 4: And I hope that you guys too, I know for us,

731
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 4: it was so like ingrained in the behavior around the show.

732
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 4: Look like I had I don't even know who was

733
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 4: your number one on your call sheet, Matt Matthew, Yeah,

734
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 4: so like our number one was carry and like I

735
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 4: think that just from very early on, and I'm sure

736
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 4: it was like this on your show too, because you

737
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 4: guys are all such good friends, hopefully, but like on

738
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 4: our show, it was so like I had to like

739
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 4: retrain my brain to be like whatever someone gets that

740
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 4: I don't whether that's a Kimmel or a fashion campaign

741
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 4: or something like this, all just keeps this is good

742
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 4: for the show. This is good for the show, which

743
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 4: is good for my job, which is my job, which

744
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: means I get to keep my job, and which means I.

745
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: Get to keep security. Blah blah blah.

746
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 4: But I'm sure I mean you could see how in

747
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 4: like a more toxic environment, it can get really really

748
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 4: in question to that with you guys, which is so

749
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 4: different than Scandal is like your show was all young

750
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 4: people and my show was all old No, but like

751
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 4: my show, I was the youngest by like ten years,

752
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 4: Like Carrie was right under me, over me. But you know,

753
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 4: the other women on the show, Carrie Bellamy Darby were

754
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 4: like ten years plus older than me. Maybe Carrie's on ten,

755
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 4: I can't remember, but older. I definitely felt like the baby.

756
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 4: And then Tony, Jeff Perry, Josh Molina, Joe Morton, like

757
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 4: all of these actors are way older and had maybe

758
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 4: not hit before, like on huge shows, like you know,

759
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 4: like came for a long time and so fucking grateful

760
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 4: to have a show that had staying power. So there

761
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 4: was like, yes, no Shenanigans going on. There was no

762
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 4: one was blowing lines off of anyone's whatever at a

763
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 4: fucking party, like there was everyone was like yes to

764
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 4: be here, and to be here, so happy to have

765
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: a job and also just like not like there was

766
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 4: just no like silly business. Like I'd always be the

767
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 4: person that was like drinking and I'd be.

768
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: Like, does anyone want to have one.

769
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 4: I mean, g Gearmo's good like that, but we forget

770
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 4: like Gearmo's also way older than me too and has

771
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: been on a on of shows. And also again just

772
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 4: like there was no like yeah, yeah, I'm assuming like

773
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 4: because you were all young, like I tell me about that,

774
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 4: because I didn't have that. Everyone came to work and

775
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 4: went home and nobody was hooking up or doing drugs

776
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 4: or like nothing.

777
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: It was no drama.

778
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: There wasn't a lot of drug doing. There wasn't like

779
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: that kind of like nobody stuff of people in the

780
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: trailers and things like that.

781
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 3: That's really good.

782
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: No, that wasn't happening. There was, like, you know, lots

783
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: of people hooked up.

784
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: It was like college young lead actors in your show,

785
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 4: but then so many extras and dancers and kids in

786
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 4: the in the in the cafeteria.

787
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 3: I'm like, who was not hooking up?

788
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: Like, I'm like, well, we didn't though we were. Actually

789
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: I think nobody really hooked up with like any extras.

790
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: Oh please, Kevin, no, oh please wait. I'm sure people.

791
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 4: You're all young and hormonal and tired and working long hours.

792
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: You better believe I was up in those dance rehearsals.

793
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: It's not supposed to be a part of it. I'm like,

794
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: I'm going to go drive yeah, Pa and go and

795
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: we text each other like, oh, so and so is.

796
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: Back today, Like and Kevin and I lived together in

797
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: season two and three?

798
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: Was it Kevin?

799
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

800
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: And so everybody would just come over to our house

801
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: after we finished wrap and we would just we would

802
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: drink and we would hang out and some people would

803
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: like sleep over.

804
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: We just had like the.

805
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: Houseage because it was the only place we could go

806
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: where people wouldn't be looking at us or taking pictures

807
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: so us. Yeah, then you like really let loose because

808
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: at that point too, that was like the biggest show.

809
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 3: Every night or just like Friday.

810
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: No, no, no, not every night, because we'd be working

811
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: until like eleven o'clock and then have to show up

812
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: at six or seven, and we'd be pretty tired. But

813
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 1: on the weekends or the nights that we wrapped early,

814
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: we'd go to dinner. We also like went to lunch

815
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: together all together. We'd leave the lot and go to

816
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: lunch together, and then we'd have to like get back

817
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: in time, and we get in trouble because we were

818
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: like a few minutes late. And now, yeah, it was.

819
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: There were shenanigans, and then you had like the adults

820
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: that were the ones who set the tone that were

821
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: like grateful to be here, save your money by a house,

822
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: like show up on time, do your lines, because there's

823
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: a certain I mean, and we did, like everybody showed

824
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: up when we showed up everything.

825
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: Nobody They were like no, every now and then somebody

826
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: would sleep through their alarm and then I would go

827
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: pick them up.

828
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: But no, there was no time for any of those

829
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: kind of shnani against because you would get in trouble,

830
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: you'd really get talking to you.

831
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: We didn't do it on school nights.

832
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah sure.

833
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: And also like as we got older, we got if

834
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: you were hungover, you would like look at the episode

835
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: and you're.

836
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: Like, oh god anymore, Oh my god.

837
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 4: And it felt because you're dating. Now, tell me who

838
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 4: was your favorite? Who do you go on record? Is

839
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 4: like who are your fame favorite? Like famous famous people

840
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 4: being on the show.

841
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow saying John Stamos, Oh wow, christ Channa w wow.

842
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 3: That's I mean.

843
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: Kate Hudson, she was great. Sarah Jessica Parker, she was

844
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: a MA. We didn't work with the s J p

845
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: but we heard that she was like the coolest, like

846
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 1: low maintenance coolest, and I was like, I'm so jealous.

847
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: It makes sense. I feel like the people like Gwyneth,

848
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 2: Kate and s JP are of like a certain generation

849
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: and they all have like the same just like vibe

850
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 2: cool like I'm just happy to be here.

851
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 3: They're so cool.

852
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 2: There's like what's up with you guys? Like how's it going?

853
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 4: And that were they at those times? I have this

854
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 4: memories is too, like they wanted to be on the show. Yeah,

855
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: they loved the show so much and wanted to be

856
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 4: on it.

857
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: How mind blowing is think about it for you? Like

858
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: we had that too.

859
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 4: We had like Angela Bassett like I wanted to direct

860
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 4: us so badly, or like Regina King wanted to direct

861
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: us so badly, so like you know, I got to

862
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 4: work a Duverne wanted to direct really like unbelievablely like

863
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 4: Talent Towerhouses coming, Lisa Kudro recurved and.

864
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: That was so bizarre. I can't like I might have

865
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 3: to do a scandal, rewatch. I'm not lying right now.

866
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: I think I want to do it.

867
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: Holds up.

868
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: I also will never forget Katie just standing there shaking

869
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: with blood on her hands in the pilot. It shook

870
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: my world and I was like, who is this girl?

871
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: It was like this show was going to me.

872
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: Who was that?

873
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: We watched trailers, we were just like, gotta go watch

874
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: my standing up against each other like all before this,

875
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: because I was in New York.

876
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: I remember seeing you in waiting rooms. Oh, and we

877
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 4: hung out talked after during like the end of Lee,

878
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 4: and I remember being in waiting rooms movie.

879
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: Hey, how does this feel for you? It weird for me?

880
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: There at least each other?

881
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh, I love I mean love. Oh, Like, okay,

882
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 3: a least Katie's here.

883
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: That's a weird thing that I also feel like people

884
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 2: don't really talk about. It's like when you're on like

885
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 2: a hit TV show and then you start going on

886
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: normal auditions again.

887
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 4: Shanda, last week, we're all still I hope you guys

888
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 4: are too. We're still such great friends.

889
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 3: So close.

890
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, And I whenever I go to New UK work,

891
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 4: I call Shanda and Scott and people that live on

892
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: that side. And I saw everybody, but I was hanging

893
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 4: out with Shandon. I was telling you about an audition

894
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 4: I had, and she was like, so pissed. She was like,

895
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 4: you still have to audition, Like like she's she takes

896
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 4: a personal offense to it because she's like, I made you.

897
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 4: You should have to be auditioning, And she's right, No,

898
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 4: I'm kidding. I I actually mind auditioning. To be honest,

899
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 4: I I don't think I've ever been offered a part

900
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 4: in my entire life, and I think if I did,

901
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 4: I would be so stressed that totally what I'm about

902
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 4: to do, Like I I don't mind auditioning or meeting

903
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 4: or testing or like whatever, being like, this is what I.

904
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: Plan to do with this part. Are you into that?

905
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: If you're into that, I'm here for you, let's do this.

906
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: Ye are you?

907
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 4: But she was it was so she was like, I

908
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 4: can't believe you're auditioning. And I was like, yeah, Shana,

909
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 4: Like every every one's auditioning. Yeah, everyone everyone everyone on Scandal,

910
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 4: besides probably I would say Carrie and Tony are probably auditioning.

911
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say.

912
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 4: I would say, like, I think I've talked to them

913
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 4: in the past few years and they've been like I

914
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 4: had an audition.

915
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 3: I had it, Like, so I know that.

916
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: Yes, Ryan, it was low stakes, was the only time

917
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: that's happened where I did one episode of American Horror

918
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 2: Stories and he called me and was like, oh, would

919
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: you do this? Do you want to come to I'm

920
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: like sure and I was like yeah, great, cool, he

921
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: knows me, trust me, whatever. And then I remember, like

922
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: the day before, I was like, wait, wait, am I

923
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: still good? From what is a character? He doesn't know

924
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: what I'm going to do? None of them know what

925
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 2: I'm going to do. The poor director has never even

926
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 2: seen me do this, Like what I've had no conversation

927
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: with him?

928
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 3: What is carry?

929
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: It was? And we all got there and luckily it

930
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: was like a There were four of us and we

931
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: all were offered the parts, and so we're like before

932
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: the first take, where like, so, what the fuck are

933
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: we doing?

934
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: So staring it together?

935
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's see how this goes.

936
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 4: Two things for you one that's right. I've only been

937
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 4: offered one other thing too, and it was Shonda. Same

938
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 4: to you, Ryan Murphy. I shot the pilot for Scandal.

939
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 4: I was a nanny at the time, and I was

940
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 4: telling her horror stories about babysitting these kids who didn't believe.

941
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 4: The mom didn't believe in diapers, so I had to

942
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 4: hold their bare butts over the toilet as I made

943
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 4: encouraging pooping sounds, and then the babies would poop in

944
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 4: the toilet, and she thought it was the most disgusting,

945
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 4: horrific thing she'd ever heard in her life. So after

946
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 4: I wrapped the pilots of Scandal and we were waiting

947
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 4: a long time to hear if we were going to

948
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 4: get a season pick up, they just called and they

949
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 4: were like, she's going to give you a one day

950
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 4: guest star on Grey's Anatomy. And she says, you're not

951
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 4: allowed to babysit while we're waiting to hear news on Scandal.

952
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 4: So I did get all on Gray's Anatamy was Sandro

953
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: and she's the greatest actress.

954
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: Of all times.

955
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 3: Last What a dream.

956
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 4: The other story I have to add to this all

957
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 4: is that I used to wait tables.

958
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 3: On Ryan Murphy all the time.

959
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 4: He only liked table sixteen or seventeen AMMO for those listening.

960
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 4: Ammos like the perfect in between area for studio executives

961
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 4: and powerhouse players in Hollywood to come from the valley

962
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: or Paramount or like right over in Melrose, right like

963
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 4: the middle area. Meeting his Ammo and I was the

964
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 4: waitress there for forever, and Ryan Murphy came all the time.

965
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 4: Oh it was delicious. Rip Alexander's brown rice bull. It

966
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 4: was the most delicious thing in the entire history.

967
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: Yes, sweet, you just worked on a show, right? Do

968
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: you just worked on another TV show?

969
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: What did I?

970
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: Oh?

971
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I forgot guys, I have no breaking capacity.

972
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 3: Jenna, you're about to have this when you go from

973
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: one to two call me.

974
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: I can't wait to level it's.

975
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, ready up, I know.

976
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: But what what is it like working on any other

977
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: show after working on a on a show that's so hard?

978
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: Like everybody we always say, like anything we do after this,

979
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: we were like, set it's like easy Street.

980
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 3: What is it like working on others stuff? After Shonda?

981
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: Well?

982
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: Oh oh easy and how it is? Yeah is the same?

983
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 4: No, no, no, it's so it's so it's so it's

984
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 4: so fun.

985
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 3: Like I just feel like.

986
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 4: For me, I I mean, look, I loved being on

987
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 4: a show that had a really long run. I think

988
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: That's what I'd always wanted and it was such a dream.

989
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 4: But like the artist actress in me actually really does

990
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 4: like to bounce around totally like different things. I mean,

991
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 4: of course, for like my mortgage, I wish that that

992
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 4: happened all the time, but it doesn't, and that's okay, right,

993
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 4: But you know, when Scandal was over, I was definitely

994
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: like ready to put Quinn to rest, like you know,

995
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 4: I felt complete and I felt like I've looked at

996
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 4: every side of her yep, and the writers have done

997
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 4: an incredible job. And I'm devastated to not be in

998
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 4: a trailer at five am with Gear Modiaz and Kerrie

999
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: Washington ever again. And that's the heartbreak of it is

1000
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 4: the relationships and the you know, the fun we had,

1001
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 4: but artistically, I was like done. So I feel like

1002
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 4: all the jobs I've had after it just I've been

1003
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 4: so pumped to like play other shit, Like I just

1004
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 4: I just did this show where I'm like the thickest

1005
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 4: text East Texas accent, I'm Preacher's wife, my hair is

1006
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 4: up to the ceiling.

1007
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: I love it.

1008
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 4: Like it's such character work that I've never like. I'm

1009
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 4: so I'm like, wow, you guys will let me do that?

1010
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 4: And I've yeah, like I just I'm like I never

1011
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 4: got to do I want to do periods so bad.

1012
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 4: I want to do like anything, you know, all I

1013
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 4: watch is the Spanish Queen, the Red Queen, the Serpent Queen,

1014
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 4: this Queen, and they don't let Americans do that, but

1015
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 4: I would die to do that.

1016
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: I want to do seventy Like there's.

1017
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: Just like shit I want to do Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1018
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: So it's fun to play.

1019
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like fun.

1020
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 4: And I was dying to do a multi cam and

1021
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 4: I was so lucky that I got to do it.

1022
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 3: And I learned like, wow, I don't know, I don't

1023
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: know if that's for me. Yeah, I don't know. Did

1024
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: you ever do that? Did you learn that? Have you

1025
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 3: like never done multi cam? No, you've never done one?

1026
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: Oh you really want to? I really want to.

1027
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: I want to do it again.

1028
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 4: I mean I did it in COVID and we didn't

1029
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 4: have like live audiences, and I feel like different.

1030
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: You would thrive then because you get the theater aspect

1031
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: of it.

1032
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 4: Then it's like the end of the No, yeah, I

1033
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 4: think so, Like I think I had the show gone again.

1034
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 4: It was with Pete Holmes and there was all these

1035
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 4: plans where he was going to warm up the crowd

1036
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 4: and do his stand up and I'm such a fan

1037
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 4: of his standing back, So like you never got.

1038
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 3: To see do that.

1039
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, then you didn't like fully get the full exp

1040
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: so I liked before I go on record.

1041
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll try it again. I'll try it again.

1042
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: As also specific skills like yeah, or a thriller or

1043
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: a procedural or.

1044
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 3: Never done it, fuck and horror. I want to do

1045
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 3: one so bad.

1046
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 2: I love like people who can do those, like people

1047
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: who are on Law and Order forever. I'm like, that

1048
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 2: is a whole different or on grays or like those

1049
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 2: are all specific things and skills that I don't know,

1050
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: and that's I love auditioning for them because like, let

1051
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: me see if I can like figure out how to

1052
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: do It's different, pacing, everything is different about it. Yeah,

1053
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: but I enjoy, like I enjoy auditioning for those things

1054
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: and yeah, because it's like this is very, very different.

1055
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 4: That's what I mean. Like that's what feels exciting about

1056
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 4: the new jobs. And they do feel easier, I think

1057
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 4: in a way. But I feel so lucky because I

1058
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 4: feel like I just take I learned so much on

1059
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 4: skin it was like yeah, and I know you guys

1060
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 4: did too. We have such an impressionable time at our

1061
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 4: ages and I and I just feel like I learned

1062
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 4: so such, so much about like how to be on

1063
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 4: a set and how to treat people. Yes, and I

1064
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 4: just really take that shit pretty seriously and take it

1065
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 4: with me everywhere I go, and and I just can't believe.

1066
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 4: Then then some days a week up and I'm like,

1067
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 4: I'm going back to school.

1068
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 3: Oh every day, Yeah, exactly, like going to school and

1069
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: help people. Like I'm like, I don't know what's happening.

1070
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, school's not going anywhere. You can always you can

1071
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 2: do that. A class here, a class there.

1072
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 3: I mean, Glenn Powell's going back to school. So Helen Powell,

1073
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 3: what's he's studying now? He's finishing.

1074
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to go to school, He's just finishing.

1075
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 2: He has no time.

1076
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 3: Yes, he's finishing. He's just he's finishing his degree.

1077
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1078
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you two have degrees or no? You were working?

1079
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: You do?

1080
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 3: I went into Marrymount Theater performance you No.

1081
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: During COVID. I was like, I could get my political

1082
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: science degree. I have some college credits, and so I

1083
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 2: was just like, so I started taking my sort of

1084
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: you know, prerequisites, and which was like a cinema class

1085
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: and that's.

1086
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 4: Fun, sociology of the family, Like yeah, yeah, I was

1087
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 4: like you I get to take Can I pay someone

1088
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 4: to take math for me?

1089
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I couldn't do any of that.

1090
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: I couldn't like cinema. I'm like, guys, I got this.

1091
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: I took one math class in college. I went to

1092
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: Liberal Arts cards and you have to take one math class.

1093
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I'll do it. Oh it was

1094
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 3: very easy.

1095
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 1: No, it was fine.

1096
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 3: Okay. Did you so did you watch Glee before?

1097
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: Oh?

1098
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: Yeah you did. Oh he's like right up your alley,

1099
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 3: So like it makes that I got well.

1100
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 4: I think I watched it till season like two or three,

1101
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 4: and then I was like seethingly jealous because I kept

1102
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 4: auditioning and not getting cast. So I was like, oh,

1103
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 4: I'm never watching this show. I get No, I'm kidding.

1104
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 3: I get that. It's hard to be fair.

1105
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: If there was a show that I wanted to be

1106
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: on during, like I would Scandal was like the one. Yeah,

1107
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: that's like right up my alley? Did you like that

1108
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 2: kind of genre? Like Cess?

1109
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I wasn't like a big West Wing fan.

1110
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 4: I think that was on when I was in college

1111
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 4: and an baby or anything, but I was a huge

1112
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: I was a huge Grays fan. I think the Gray's

1113
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 4: Anatomy pilot is in history, one of the greatest pilots

1114
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 4: in pilot history, and I yes, and you know, I

1115
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 4: used to audition against Sarah Drew, another amazing singer, musical

1116
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 4: theater girl who played April.

1117
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 3: April Yeah, was on Glee. She was on Glee. Yes,

1118
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 3: she see everyone was on Glee. This bitch.

1119
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 4: I'm telling you this bitch and her and I used

1120
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 4: to go up against each other. I can't even tell you.

1121
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 4: She wouldn't know because she only got the parts. But

1122
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 4: it was so great because when she finally got Grays,

1123
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 4: I was like, get her out of here, off the street.

1124
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 3: She's working.

1125
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: She was always working all the uphe I was like,

1126
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: how did we get hurt? She's busy.

1127
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 4: So when she but twofold a, I was so pumped

1128
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 4: that she got finally off the audition circuit. And then

1129
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: the second thing was I thought, oh, well, if she's

1130
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 4: Shonda's type, then maybe I'm Shondas type like like me.

1131
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 4: And I kept auditioning for Shonda. I came really close

1132
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 4: to like she had a doctor's with out borders like

1133
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 4: Gray's Anatomy sort of spin off called Off the Map

1134
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 4: the season before Scandal, and I went in for all

1135
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 4: the lead doctor girls. I quit my babysitting job at

1136
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 4: the time, and I was because I was going in

1137
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 4: every day for like a different doctor on that show,

1138
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 4: and they were trying to find a place for me

1139
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 4: and there wasn't a fit.

1140
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 3: And the next and I stopped and I was so broke.

1141
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 4: And then the next season, my second audition of the

1142
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 4: pilot season was Scandal. Oh God, So I'd been in

1143
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 4: there a bunch of times, even though Yeah, Lowie was

1144
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 4: the casting director. Her husband Jeff Perry, who played Cyrus,

1145
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 4: started Steppenwolf Theater Company and I went to their summer school,

1146
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 4: and so she was always very monster, that monster, and

1147
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 4: what an actor.

1148
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: What an actor.

1149
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 2: You also, I can't unsee him as that.

1150
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: I know that part, that part, he's the most wonderful

1151
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 3: for ever.

1152
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: Do you remember ever like seeing us at like events,

1153
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 2: red carpets and things, because I remember running into some

1154
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: of your casts.

1155
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: You do, I don't remember seeing them.

1156
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 4: I don't because you were on a Fox circuit and

1157
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 4: I was on the ABC circuit.

1158
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 2: But that's why it didn't. I think I remember it

1159
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 2: because I was such a fanboy that anytime it did

1160
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: if I saw you or or Carrie, I would just

1161
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:37,479
Speaker 2: be like.

1162
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 4: No, we must have been like the night before parties together. Yes,

1163
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 4: w Chateau Marmont, like the Emmy season thing. Now. We

1164
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 4: were never nominated for a single thing except the NAACP Awards. Actually,

1165
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 4: I take that back, what about you guys were nominated

1166
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 4: for and.

1167
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 3: One for everything. See that's why you don't.

1168
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: I didn't see you, Yeah, but I wanted to see

1169
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: you guys, like.

1170
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 3: Where were what were you? Did? You win everything? Best Show,

1171
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 3: Best Comedy, We.

1172
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: Won Golden Globe, We won sag on Best Ensemble, which

1173
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: was really fun.

1174
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: Season or two we won, and then Modern Family win everything.

1175
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 3: And then Modern Family after that, like we were done.

1176
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: They wanted nothing to do with us, and Modern Family

1177
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: took everything for years and we are you.

1178
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 3: Guys nervous to go to the Emmys? Was it a

1179
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 3: big deal?

1180
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: They were at first they were at first like it

1181
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: was like, wow, we're at the Golden Globes. This is

1182
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: so fucking cool, and then like it'd be like Award

1183
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: season again and like another cricket.

1184
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 2: But honestly, alcohol the Emmys so didn't.

1185
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: Have alcohol, and they were really long. They were like

1186
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 3: three hours.

1187
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: But it was still really special, Like especially the sag Warts.

1188
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: They were always special because you're just with your friends

1189
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: all like whole time.

1190
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 2: The best thing, Yeah, are the best.

1191
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 4: It's all actors, who are my favorite people. I fucking

1192
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 4: love actors, Like that's the problem. I just love them, guys.

1193
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 4: I'm in an acting like I'm never not an acting class.

1194
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 3: Oh my god, such a lame.

1195
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: Oh I'm a full theater company that you run on

1196
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: the your that time day job.

1197
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 4: That's my day job. I am a theater company. And

1198
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,919
Speaker 4: the scandal rewatch podcast talking to you guys, raising two

1199
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 4: children hiding in my closet.

1200
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: I can barely get myself breakfast. I don't understand.

1201
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: We also have to talk about your your husband on

1202
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: the hottest show on television right now?

1203
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 3: Are you raising?

1204
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: I loved on the night it dropped this past season.

1205
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: And then he's obviously in last season a little bit yes,

1206
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 2: and then playing Adam Shapiro showing up, I'm like, oh

1207
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: he's back again and again and again.

1208
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 3: It was really crazy.

1209
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 4: We had to get my in lust to just like

1210
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 4: move in and raise my children. Well ye ago, and

1211
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 4: I was in Charlotte and I was like, I don't know.

1212
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 3: How this is gonna work.

1213
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: I was talking to him, He's like, just drop the

1214
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: kids off going and get them again. Can't This is crazy, Jenna.

1215
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 4: He did four months of like my husband's a saint,

1216
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 4: but also like I did eight. No, I shouldn't say

1217
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 4: it's such a funny double standard because I like a

1218
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 4: budapeste for to shoot for like six months and I

1219
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 4: did the kids.

1220
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 3: Whatever. We're very good.

1221
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: We're it's very.

1222
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 4: Very even to be honest, and we're both very good

1223
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 4: at like understanding like someone's got a job.

1224
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 3: We're so like go go, honey, get it. Oh my god,

1225
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah we get to keep the house for another year,

1226
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 3: like whatever. But there's a double kind of used to that,

1227
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 3: thank god.

1228
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 4: But yeah, the Bear was a huge we joke around

1229
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 4: because we don't. I mean, I had put him on

1230
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 4: tape for the Bear a few times and he was

1231
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 4: close to getting parts, and then they gave him this

1232
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 4: role and we don't know if.

1233
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 3: I mean, it's his acting.

1234
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 4: For sure, but also it's because of all this hoopla

1235
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 4: around the pretzel business that he also shabby pretzels.

1236
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 3: No when he's on set, like they said something like that.

1237
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 4: They were like, we had to get the we just

1238
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 4: love your pretzel story so much, like they've like said that,

1239
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 4: like I don't even know.

1240
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 3: It's yes, And here's.

1241
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 4: The greatest perk about this show, which I have not

1242
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 4: yet enjoyed.

1243
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 3: Actually I have that.

1244
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 4: I take that back, because it's so when you shoot

1245
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 4: the bear and all these fancy chefs come and then

1246
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 4: when you wrap, they're like, just come sit and you

1247
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 4: get to eat at like the fanciest best restaurants because

1248
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 4: of all the chefs.

1249
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 3: You're like famous in the chef world.

1250
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 4: Right then, even in Charlotte, when Adam would come, he

1251
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 4: would get recognized all these restaurants, and then the chefs

1252
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,479
Speaker 4: would just be like sending us over food. You guys

1253
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 4: want to pair this wine. I'm like, yeah, I want

1254
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 4: to pair that wine. Like, but that is one of

1255
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 4: the greatest hurks.

1256
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: Wow, I can't imagine. That's awesome. Oh, we're so happy.

1257
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for him.

1258
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: What is I need to know what your self tape

1259
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: situation is?

1260
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: Like?

1261
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 2: If you guys are putting each other on tape.

1262
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 4: We learned that in COVID it almost got divorced.

1263
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 2: Are you giving you giving each other notes?

1264
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 3: Like he can't I note him up?

1265
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 4: When it's a drama, and he notes me up when

1266
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 4: it's a comedy, so it's just like a recipe for

1267
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 4: a disaster, Like he can't cry, you're doing that stuff.

1268
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 4: So he's trying to like fake it and I'm trying

1269
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 4: to get him there. And then if I'm doing a comedy,

1270
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 4: he's like, you're not hearing it. It's like buttump bump.

1271
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm never having sex with you again. But

1272
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 4: like so I'm kidding, that's not true.

1273
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 3: But what we learn.

1274
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 4: Oh, and then it would get really funny, like because

1275
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 4: my auditions can be wildly dramatic, like I'm screaming and

1276
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 4: my child's like in a well and a goat of

1277
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 4: thing is coming and I'm trying to get the baby

1278
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 4: out and jump on the back of a motorcycle and

1279
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 4: I'm screaming and I'm trying to save us, and the

1280
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 4: kids are asleep, and we're doing this at ten forty

1281
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 4: five at night, and Adam's laughing so hard at me

1282
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 4: that I'm screaming at him to just face the wall,

1283
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 4: and I'm acting to his back. I mean, this is

1284
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 4: the type of tape we're making.

1285
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 3: It's not good. I believe it.

1286
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: My sounds like in COVID my husband who's not an

1287
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: actor at all, at all, I could tell I have

1288
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: loved an array of stories for you with self dates.

1289
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 3: Though we don't do it anymore.

1290
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: I would love to see David. I would love to

1291
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: hear him read with you.

1292
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: He cuts himself. He cuts the scene because he messes up,

1293
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: so he'll be on his end. We'll get to the

1294
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: last line of the scene. It's a great, great cut.

1295
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 3: I messed up.

1296
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, they don't care about you. They don't care

1297
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: about you in this moment. This is not about you.

1298
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: He's laughed at me where he's ruined scenes before. Also,

1299
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: and I've done zooms where producers give you notes and

1300
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: he'll take the note himself and like change the pace,

1301
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: but he does it wrong, and so you're I'm just

1302
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: staring at him.

1303
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 3: I'm like you were, like this is I've now go,

1304
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 3: I go and we pay. It's a little bit. It's yeah,

1305
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 3: it's worth it. I can't. I can't. I can't.

1306
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 4: And also like having me ask him eight billion times

1307
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 4: like do I look okay?

1308
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 3: Should I wear this top? Should I change the stop?

1309
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: Like it's just like not great, that's not the Yeah, it's.

1310
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 4: Not a great date night, you know what I mean,

1311
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 4: it's not a great date at all.

1312
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 2: I should probably just relieve Austin of doing that for me.

1313
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not really.

1314
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Speaker 2: He doesn't have to do it with him. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: like for me to do it with him.

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Speaker 3: You're it's one thing, but.

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Speaker 2: It's having him do it, though he like gives great notes.

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Speaker 1: Kevin is just so laxy. He's so easy to work

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Speaker 1: with that, like, of course you like Austin.

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Speaker 2: To do it with you because I want to. At

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01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 2: first I was about it okay, and then I got over.

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01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, who cares? Like he's literally seen me at

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01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: my grossest, ugliest whatever I'm gonna suck and he's gonna

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Speaker 2: see it. Who cares? So, like, clearly I can sort

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01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: of do it sometimes, so like I like, but today

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01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 2: he was in a bind and I did it with him,

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01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 2: and I was standing. He's like, I don't want.

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Speaker 3: To look at you.

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01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 2: He's like, you're a different line. He's like, can you say? Oh?

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01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 2: He literally has everything set up in front of his face,

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01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: and so I I just like sit behind a desk

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Speaker 2: and like.

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Speaker 3: Does he have the lines up?

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01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 5: Like?

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01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 4: Are you guys fucking with all that stuff sometimes prompters

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Speaker 4: and stuff.

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01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 2: Well not even teleprompter. She's like a wireless keyboard.

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01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 3: He's a paper, Yes, a.

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01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: Wireless keyboard, and just like go down and just tape

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Speaker 2: it up. I read the sides off the screen something.

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01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 3: I'm so old school. I literally have to like I.

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Speaker 2: That's why you're good, though, That's why you need.

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01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 4: Someone fifteen dollars an hour who I love read like

1344
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 4: a baby. She I just get on the phone with

1345
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 4: her and I'm like, start now, start the minute clock now,

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01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 4: and we just drill for like twenty five minutes.

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01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 3: Brilliant. Though.

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01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to start a company for readers, like an

1349
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: uber where people come and they call and they read

1350
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: with you, because.

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01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 4: I'll give you her number, call her anytime and tell her.

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01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 4: Tell I don't know how you make money off that,

1353
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 4: but like, yeah, I have to memory.

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Speaker 3: I can't look. I don't know what's I'm such an

1355
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 3: old school actress.

1356
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 2: But what I've get. But what I've discovered is that

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01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm better when you significantly better when I do memorize

1358
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: so well.

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01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 3: Kevin ever goes in with a paper. He never holds

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Speaker 3: a paper that.

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01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 2: Is so good, well, very impressed yeah, but it would

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01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 2: be like, oh, you've memorized the lines, but are you

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01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 2: doing it well. It was sort of like, okay, yeah,

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01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 2: I can remember.

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01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 4: I supposed to hold the paper because we're like, I'm

1366
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 4: not going to tell you this is a finished product

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01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 4: until totally.

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01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 3: That's what I want you to think, that this is

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01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 3: still in process.

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01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 2: You're right if I in personal auditions anymore, I am

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01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: not going in off book like that.

1372
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Speaker 5: Ever.

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01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 4: It's not it's not it's illegal, not require to it. Yeah, exactly,

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01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 4: I have to go pick up my kid. Is there

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01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 4: anything else? Is there anything else you want to ask me?

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01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: I want to come back tomorrow so much. You thanks

1377
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: for taking so much time.

1378
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 4: With that time, I'm gonna go get my kids.

1379
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, God, she's the best.

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01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't even. I can't even. She is one of

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01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: my favorite people in the world. It's funny that they're like,

1382
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: we we came up in a similar way. I mean,

1383
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: not obviously, if you heard, not completely similar. They were

1384
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: kind of on the fence of getting extra seasons, but

1385
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: they they hit it and like she's known for scandal,

1386
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: now you know what I mean. And it's a big

1387
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: part of her, A huge part of her life and

1388
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: it's so formative, and we were kind of at the

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01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: same age when we did these huge hits, so it's

1390
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: a very similar experience. But we're so happy for Katie.

1391
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: She's amazing. She continues to do awesome work. She has

1392
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: the I Am a Theater company, which I it's the

1393
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: only time I sing ever now is that Yalla's And

1394
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: she's just wildly talented and the nicest person ever, and

1395
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: I always want to work with her.

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01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 2: She's just the best, so so talented. If you watch Scandal,

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01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 2: you love her like I was the biggest Scandal fan.

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01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 2: You and I both were, I.

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01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 3: Know, really were. I got to rewatch it?

1400
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah too? Should we do that?

1401
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 3: I would do it?

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01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Okay, let's do great.

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01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 2: God we decided that.

1404
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:30,959
Speaker 3: Well.

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01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: Go listen to their podcast as well. It's called Unpacking

1406
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: the Toolbox, a Scandal rewatch with Katie and Giermo. And

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01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: thank you Katie for coming on and chatting with us.

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01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: I hope you guys could make some sense of the

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01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: nonsensical conversation we had.

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Speaker 3: With her, but we are appreciative and come back next week.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, and that's what you really missed by Thanks for

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01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: listening and follow us on Instagram at and that's what

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01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 2: you really miss POD. Make sure to write us a

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01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 2: review and leave us five stars. See you next time,

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Speaker 2: ye