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Speaker 1: going to have the former communications director for Eric Garcetti

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to Naomi after five. You probably have followed

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Speaker 1: Just over forty one percent said they had substance use issues.

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Speaker 1: Thirty percent reported mental health issues. Again that's self reported. Well,

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Speaker 1: What we're hoping is that people step up, they join

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Speaker 1: Is there any way that they can get involved? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think you go to House of Oliver dot com.

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Speaker 1: You go to our Facebook page, you share, you get

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Speaker 1: House of Oliver, thank you very much Matthew for talking

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Speaker 1: to us. All Right, it's Matthew Oliver who created a

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Speaker 1: the state's pandemic health orders back in. He does not

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Speaker 1: want to let go of the control. The emergency orders

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Speaker 1: still in effect. You go get them ABC. This is

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Speaker 1: a fanatic. He belongs in Beijing. John again. Yeah, coming up.

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Speaker 1: Naomi Selingman will be our guest. She was the former

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Speaker 1: director of communications for Eric Garcetti, and a few months

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Speaker 1: ago she said she believes Garcetti should be charged prosecuted

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Speaker 1: for perjury for repeatedly denying that he knew nothing about

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Speaker 1: his former top aid Rick Jacob's alleged sexual misconduct. She

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Speaker 1: will join us after five. Because that eventually led to

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Speaker 1: Garcetti's nomination to be the next ambassador to Indian Then

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Speaker 1: they went ahead and did their own report and their

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Speaker 1: conclusion was it is extremely likely or likely that Garcetti

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk to Naomi after of the news at

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Speaker 1: five o'clock. Because of this nomination is terminated. She's a

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Speaker 1: big reason for it. Here's your Ukraine Russia update. It's

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Speaker 1: about Putin's health. Putin I only hope maybe this will

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Speaker 1: end because he dies. He was supposed to show up

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Speaker 1: for something called the Legends of Hockey. This is a game,

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Speaker 1: Russian NHL players, Oligarch's politicians come. Putin used to play

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Speaker 1: every year. Yes, he used to play every year. He

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Speaker 1: didn't even show up today. In fact, there's a picture

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Speaker 1: skating around. He used to play to show how strong

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Speaker 1: and vigorous. He was, Yes, he said that hockey helped

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Speaker 1: keep you vigorous, but he didn't show up today. Some

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Speaker 1: are saying it could be his help, as a picture

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Speaker 1: of him with splotchy cheeks, it could be some treatment

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Speaker 1: or some conditions. I saw that, I wondered, I wonder

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Speaker 1: what that was. Nothing came to mind, like what kind

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Speaker 1: you blotches? And they're saying that they're trying to use makeup.

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Speaker 1: They believe that he's got some type of cancer. But

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Speaker 1: Day parade with a heavy blanket across his legs and

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Speaker 1: some thought he was limping. So and there was a

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Speaker 1: report that he's going to go for some surgery soon.

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Speaker 1: But we don't know any of this for sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean again, you always think immediately that this could

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Speaker 1: just various papers because a lot of it comes from

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Speaker 1: the London tabloids and they're just they're just stirring up dirt,

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Speaker 1: right sources, and it's usually the same source that's reporting

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Speaker 1: on Putin's health. But you wonder there's so many of

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Speaker 1: these stories, and you wonder are they really all made

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Speaker 1: up or exaggerated. There's really nothing to this. Meanwhile, Ukraine

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Speaker 1: at least one Russian soldier for war crimes. How's that

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Speaker 1: for a twist. I guess that's how much control they

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Speaker 1: charge war crimes. They're doing trials now. They filed an

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Speaker 1: or Russian by the name of Vadem Shizmarn. Shizmarn, he

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Speaker 1: shot an unarmed sixty two year old man while that

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Speaker 1: man was near his home in northeastern Ukraine. This Shashira Shishmarn,

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Speaker 1: is accused of firing several shots from a Kalishnakoff rifle

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Speaker 1: at the head of the Ukrainian man, who died on

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Speaker 1: They also apparently have others that they also want to

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Speaker 1: charge with war crimes. All right, when we come back,

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Speaker 1: we have an opportunity finally to talk to the former

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Speaker 1: communications director for Eric Garcetti. The Mayor of Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: Naomi Zeligman, is going to join us next about this

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Speaker 1: whole Rick Jacob's story and Garcetti's a possible appointment as

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